ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT THE STINKING CLINTONS !!!! BILL SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL !!!!! ONE CORRUPT MOFO !!! I LOVE AMERICA THE HOME OF THE STUPID THATS WHY YOU DONT HAVE A MUST VOTE SYSTEM !!!! MOST OF YOU CANT WRITE OR READ !!! THATS WHY PEOPLE LIKE THESE BANDITS CAN GET INTO POWER !!!! LEARN TO THINK AMERICA !!!!
Congressman Weiner...what a load of crap. How do we say no?? What about the millions suffering here at home?? You whore, you jack ass, how about taking care or your countrymen FIRST. Jesus Christ, what, are you 6 years old? What about the Ivory coast?..or the recent slaughter in Yemen? The ONLY reason we are in Libya is because they have OIL. So STOP with all the lame bullshit and start taking care of AMERICANS!!!!!
Constitutionaly, the president should have the right to 'LEAD forces into battle.' First foot on the ground, last foot off. Not a bomb or bullet can be fired until his foot touches the battlefield. He must remain an active participant for the duration, and must lead troops from the front, first tank, point man on patrol, etc. Like George Washington. He was a real commander in chief. NO politician should be able to vote to, or initiate hostilities of any kind unless they are leading the charge.
The rank hypocrisy of fake liberals over Libya disgusts me. Bush uses the same ridiculous logic to justify war and they hate it. Obama does the EXACT SAME THING and they suddenly LOVE war and tell us dropping bombs on people and supporting al-quaeda is humanitarian. Good for Kucinich for being consistent.
Enough is enough. No more warmongers in the White House. Someone, Democrat or Republican (or other), needs to step in and rectify what has amounted to untrammeled military adventurism in the past decade. No more flimsy pretexts or lies; no more unnecessary American deaths; no more billions of dollars gone to waste; and, in particular, no more pipe dreams having to do with "democracy" in the Middle East. By its very own definition, democracy stems from below.
Hey guys, you know what would be a novel idea for 2012? VOTE RON PAUL FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!! Stop masturbating your ego America! Do the right thing for ONCE!
Both parties are full of it but just in case you don't know..to help the U.N W/a sanctioned NATO agreement isn't in any way addressed in out constitution...Sorry Dennis..I usually like you & what you say but you're way off here. Bottom line. We're either Exclusionary in our policy or we're Humanistic...Oh ...BTW..thanks for de-funding NPR & the CPB..both Parties !!
And the alternitive is? Starvation ,anarchy,A world where might makes right? There will always be those that have power over others if not by force but by coersion. When your vegetables grow better than mine is it right for me to just take and give nothing in return except to stop and watch you starve? Read history it has been tried and failed there is no utopia where everyone lives for one another. Along with that Human nature prohibits us from that behavior We have to compete to advance..
Dear friend, learn to grow your own hearty veggies and juicy fruits and fatted goat and for about 1500 you can start charging some batteries with small windmill and solar panel. It's much more rewarding than the mind control nazi zero sum hoarders would have us think.
I keep hearing Dennis Kucinich quote the Constitution & saying that we should be following it. If Kucinich feels so strongly about our Constitution then he should sign on to support H.R. 125, the 'Enumerated Powers Act', otherwise his words of support and "love" of our Constitution are nothing more than words. I've contacted his offices & created a video to help encourage him to sign on as a co-sponsor of this legislation. For those that don't know about HR 125, I highly suggest looking it up.
this guy is a liar, plain and simple, where are the pics and stats of civilians being killed? what about the wmd in iraq, which was an all out lie. pretty bad when you cant even trust the government officials we place in office. liars and thieves
put Obama and his government in the Libyan battlefield with an M16 and a helmet and let them fight their own war. Obama's doing well to justify his own decision to go into Libya through lies and deception. the Americans have no interest in the Libyan people. they want their oil fields. when oil eventually runs out the last country to have it will be the United States of America and they're making sure of that.
what slaughter ? there is a civil war going on, its not the job of the US to intervene in a domestic rebellion that started in one city then thanks to western terrorist spread to more parts of the country. There is a slaughter and mass grave in gaza,ivory coast and burma but no intervention there ?
LoL they are known as checks and balances folks thats just the way it is set up, The president must consult the congress to declare war according to the constitution. They are making the congress obsolete with the war powers act and executive orders and that in itself will destroy our system. No checks and balances = dictatorship, it may take awhile but it will happen.
@TheStrazy I agree. The dangers of this unlawful behavior of ONE MAN issuing orders to bomb another country and the precedent that Americans are setting by saying that it's ok for this ONE MAN to order the most powerful military in the world to show aggression as long as he claims it is to "help" people (and as long as France says it's ok) is going to produce future slaughters that will make Libya look like a mere skirmish.
@dontblockmedk Let me guess. You have never originated anything. Never produced from raw materials the "minimum necessities" that people "need". Never designed any of the "latest" technology you speak of. Never added to the collection of human knowledge. Never created anything that other people want or need. Do you know how to tap resources and process them?
Also, it sounds like the only difference between what you call wage slavery and your form of slavery is that there are simply no wages.
@p Perfect example of ad hominem attack. The real question are.
1 Can we produce ABUNDANT food, water, energy, etc for everyone or not?
2 Do we have the technology to automate most of the work or not?
If no, prove it.
If yes, 'money for labor' is OBSOLETE. So the only logical system is to produce abundance and just distribute it. There can only be force when there is NOT enough for everyone, ONLY with abundance EVERYONE is FREE. GET IT.
@dontblockmedk Adding variables only goes so far 1. atm no we cannot produce enough food,water, energy,ect without a incentive behind it besides "goodwill towards man" 2. who would you force to upkeep said automations while everyone else was sitting there doing nothing?
Human nature by itself prohibits a commune type of society because of no incentive. The incentive in a normal society is greed, if not for profit but for name recognition. With abundance come abuse and people will still suffer.
@T Most manual labor CAN be and a lot already is automated. Besides western culture, everyone in the world works VERY hard in terrible conditions, just to maybe have enough food to eat. In a system where all their necessities are FREE, the few workers necessary will be happy to volunteer.
Also True scientists and engineers do NOT work for money or fame, but to personally figure stuff out and also to help mankind. Money is a NEGATIVE incentive NOT positive.
@dontblockmedk I do not disagree that those folks work very hard in bad conditions for food. Look at them and then look at us a society that has a incentive besides starvation.assuming some will be happy to volunteer? Who is going to go to school to learn or teach those to repair the machines? natural disasters such as bad seasons will create a rift that one life will become worth more than others and people will starve for the betterment of society. Its been done and failed, competition wins.
@dontblockmedk You don't get to decide the "REAL question" because you ignore the real world in which Individual self-interest finally defeated primitive tribalism and brought all this advanced technology as well as the acknowledgement of Individual rights into being.
Since you like lists why don't you come up with a list of all the technologies that were discovered or known about but never developed or improved upon because the tribalist empires simply used slaves.
@dontblockmedk the worlds belong to those willing to fight for thier piece of the pie. the rest might as well wait, until they finally get it.-----globalist propaganda.
the world belongs to no one. As long as we are going to see the need for someone to OWN something. It means we havn't learned our lesson yet.
@dontblockmedk LoL no money, no property wheres the incentive? Why dont you people pick up a book and read about those type of "utopian" societys and what they have led too? When a person is no longer a value(a worker) to a society with no money no propery they become a burden, Hence burdens need to be ridded from that society for the betterment of it. You are all for the genocide of "humans unfit of life" been there done that look it up it didnt work. Unless you want to be labeled a murderer.
for generations same speech the priviledge support undercover both sides its all about money resource control, viet nam was a civil war, korea a civil war, we had a civil war what did that gain the loss of thousands of lives, destroyed thriving communities, chaos, disease, fear, destruction!
also this is a civil war and in Rhuwanda we walked out and let the people innocent children women get slaughtered! un left! we slaughtered millions of native americans here in the land of the free!
Republicans are only upset at this engagement because the war proffiteers dont have a monopoly on this engagement.. thats it. they wanted us to act 3 weeks ago before other nations joined us.. Poor Republican billionaires dont get richer on the back of the 99% of Americans who are forced to split the bill for it.. yea FUCK you palin.
The Obama Doctrine: "War is an executive privilege".
He is absolutely correct.
Weiner actually admitted that the law is a separate issue as to whether what Obama is doing is "right". Those who elect this men back into office are frightening people who can not comprehend what this kind of relativism has in store not only for the US but for other countries who WILL BE in our crosshairs in the future.
The law is just with Kuchinich. That's just how it is. That's not even an opinion on my part, it's a statement of fact.
Now whether it is ok to break the law sometimes to do the right thing, that's a whole different question.
I'm for this action in Libya, in how it is set up and what it aims to do, but Obama is breaking the law in this action, and I'm against that. So technically or lawfully speaking I have to be against it.
According to Weiner and Obama's logic, we should also be in the Congo, Sudan and every other country that is experiencing genocide. Question to Obama and Weiner; why were we so quick on going into Libya once civil unrest unfolded there, but we have ignored the genocides in Africa for many years? The people are waiting to hear your response.
“I’m gonna read this and then tell you who said it. ‘The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.’ Now that was Barack Obama who said that on December the 20, 2007. We’ve got to be very sure here that we follow the Constitution, and president Obama didn’t do that.”
PROGRESSIVE PAY ATTENTION. Anthony Weiner is NOT a progressive, he IS a NEW DEMOCRAT. He talks about single payer just to make you feel good. He had no problem voting for obamacare w/o a public option. obama didnt have to campaign against him in his home district like he did for dennis. Now Anthony is defending executive privelage of war? Dont be suckders, this guy is a wolf in sheeps clothing trying to detract support and money from real progressives like Dennis Kucinich.
"Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries the unites states of amerika is different"as president you refuse to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves so you send our millitary and bombs to make sure theres even more people slaughtered than ever. or you send our money to dictators or terorist states like isreal to commit atrocities. WHATS THIS WE SHIT? THIS TIME YOUR ON YOUR OWN ASSHOLE.
@Newspeakgeneration Dude, you said the democcrats were worse than the republicans. Well if you wanna vote for a bunch of right-wing fundamentalist, social conservative, economically retarded, insane dickheads, by all means.
Stop being a one issue voter, people like you are the reason the democrats think that arching into further conservatism is a good idea.
Pay great Attention...Weiner is a Clinton Democrat a pro war follow the leader show boy.....Weiner, almost anything you say now is to me CRAP for now on.
How do you explain it?? If you are that FUCKING stupid you don't belong in government...thanks Weiner for the pro war sell out.
Yes, Obama gathers power for the executive branch like DECADES of Presidents before him.
That said - I am VERY skeptical about some of the opposition to this action; I am esp leery of Bush jr cheerleaders suddenly being concerned over such things.
IOW, anti-war folks, keep a close eye on these people; they're dubious "friends" who have unsavory reasons for running opposition to Obama on this (ranging from partisanship to thinly disguised racism.)
Anthony Wiener sucks at the teat of Obama; he is nothing more than a servile lackey to the Zionist thugs, and I am not talking about the JEWS here: i am referring to ZIONIST THUGS, before any of you hypersensitive, brainwashed types go nuts.
Yes Rep. Dickhead...I mean Weiner...we should blindly follow your savior Obama...that is until a republican takes his place and then it's ok to speak out against war...seriously, what more do the American people need to see that both parties are full of shit???
@MattAHTatTat In this video I see Weiner support the wrong thing, I think knowing what we all know now that Weiner would have a different answer to these questions. Going to do a limited action as described at the onset by Obama is supportable but as always it was not the true intension, now America is in a full blown opperation and footing the lion share of the price tag, this is not supportable. End the wars, bring all our troops home
so many people of other countries are getting killed too. so, why does Libya have a special place in the USA's heart?
Qadaffi said the "West is to be forgotten" and would only trade with the BRIC countries "plus maybe Germany". he also specifically said that Libya would no longer supply the West with oil.
this whole "people are dying" f-ing nonsense is BULLSHIT. USA's foreign policy is dictated by OIL, OIL, OIL.
Fascist thug! Joe Stalin and other dictators were criticized for taking sole responsibility for war and death, while this monster thinks he's above the law. "Standing by and watching the slaughter of innocents?" Isn't Obama standing by and slaughtering innocents in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq? We have become the heirs of Hitler? I am deeply ashamed.
I would give anything to learn reasons behind our military actions in the middle east.. What makes a man who was so against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (Then Canidate Obama) flip flop so rapidly with dealings over there.. I dont see it being a money income issue with Obama.. I might be wrong.. but He doesn't strike me as a Dick Chenney type. someone or some group must have really scared the shit outa dude to make him so Pro-War its just sad..
Fascist thug! Joe Stalin and other dictators were criticized for taking sole responsibility for war and death, while this monster thinks he's above the law.
Who are the "advisors" common to bush and obama? Simple solution: Find out who they are, arrest them for war crimes and crimes against humanity....treason too. Then execute them and ask questions later. THEN find out who in our government has allowed this heist then go back to the part about the questions. If you are a patriot who loves your country, this does not in the least bit sound outrageous. These criminals deserve far worse, including Obama.
Kucinich brought up Gadaffi's corporate underhanded dealings with the central bank. Wow. Thumbs up Kucinich, thumbs up. I forgive you of your healthcare decision for that one statement.
The fact is the US was not threatened and Husein used the military force of the United States without consulting congress. He de facto violated the constitution. Blatantly If this stands we are doomed.Husein spent north of $1 million hiding his school transcripts and birth cert. And now he does this. Any wonder why thinking Americans are outraged? Where will this lead domestically?.
Regardless of the reasons, why would it be ok for the President to go beyond the powers outlined for his position? I disagree with it completely and think it is absolutely ridiculous that he not only thinks it is ok but says so blatantly to the public. Why are we as a people so weak? America is very sad, indeed.
@omnisingularity he's been disrespecting the American people since he took office. I hate to say this (because I'll be labeled something by the PC police), but the zionists really had to choose carefully after Bush2 because Americans were really sick of him (combined w/the financial crash). Of course McCain would have been just as dandy for their real aims, but shyster 'Bama would be able to pull of the heist of the Peoples' trust. That's why Wall St. was his largest campaign contributor.
Just one of the (petty) things that makes me sick about shyster 'Bama is the way he points the finger of his Nellie hands all the time like he's preaching to a class of kindergartners. Wonder if his feet are also small ;o)
Jew Weiner is an agent of the blood-thirsty illegal state of "Israel". Americans are getting sick and tired of these illegal wars that benefit the wealthy (government contracts, oil etc.) and hurt the poor of the United States.
"values morals.. being a good friend and neighbour to these countries" WTF.. going over on the pretence that we are helping their civilians to take their oil? They call that having morals and values? Jeez.. they tell so many lies they actually believe they are helping these people! PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT!
Even though Kucinch 'CAVED' on the Marxist take over of Health Care and sued over biting an Olive Pit on Tax Payer dollars. He is the only Democrat worth listening to...perhaps 1 or 2 others on a case by case basis...The Repubs? Just as bad...Ron Paul and Chris Christie are worth listening to the rest are neoCON Liberal RINO's...
i just listened to some firesign theatre and then listened (wasn't watching) to this. it's virtually indistinguishable from firesign, just as surreal except, while firesign makes you laugh, with this one, people die.
@JackofOneTrade567 even then they are falling behind.. they cant keep going like this.. pentagon already getting 50% of taxes the country wont be able to last much longer.. somethings got to give... its at the stage that wars are the only thing that america can profit from now..
Libya has a state-owned central bank. The Bankster puppet masters always go after countries who don't have a private bankster reserve system. Plus, they have oil. Bonus!
Watching what's going on in the US right now is like watching an horror movie , the way things are going I wouldn't be surprise if Obama stays for a second term without any election whatsoever , the US is 100% a Fascist state owed and controled by Zionists Khazars false Jews...and Weiner is one of them. Wake up.
@luc649 I'm just waiting any day for the dollar to be devalued and all hell to break loose... It really is scary.. did you see that shit where 18-1 republicans voting on some thing to strip the unions and the guy was shouting this is illegal and they kept on going.. havent heard anymore about that.. seems corrupt as fuck
@Lasse3030 Can I be like "Switzerland" and stay neutral?
That's what the Founders of this country wanted.
Read: "George Washington's Farewell Address to Congress".
Had we followed his admonition, we wouldn't be in the pickle that we're in as a country. Without our over-bearing need to meddle in other's affairs, the Middle East would have taken care of itself.
BTW: The events of 9/11 wouldn't have happened. The U.S. has made too many enemies out of "fatherless" sons filled with vengeance.
I see this happen all the time in Africa and the US turns a blind eye. But they have oil in Lybia, so the circumstances are different. Same thing in Mexico and South America. No oil, no help.
@adrya1983 exactly it.. if theres nothing in it they dont wanna know.. its not worth wasting 1million $ tommahawks if theres no oil to compensate for the cost to make them.. War=big buisness and always will be.. the country helped gets massive loan from world bank.. that goes to corporations who drain natural resources then once country is in debt & cant function they lose evrything.watch?v=puAbZPvm3Oc
All you people commenting here are a bunch of dumb asses. You don't have the capacity to analyze and contemplate situations that have more than two variables.
Please stop voting for the sake of our children. Besides, none of you have the time to properly educate yourselves in depth on any of the issues. You are too busy working for low wages while corporate america uses up the last of our national resources to line their pockets with before it all goes to hell.
Lets face it, its more about oil. As much killing and slavery that goes on in Africa, but I dont see any military effort being sent their at all. You just cant solve everyones problems when we havent even fixed our own. If Ghadafi gets back into power its sad and people will die, but lets not forget that we're the ones that helped put him there in the first place, as with other dictators. Chickens come home to roost.
@biggydx yeah and they are even considering arming these rebels who are just as bad as gaddaffi's men at the end of the day. &@the risk of sounding insensitive... these people have been killing each other for centuries, they make all these cuts... but UK can afford to spend 2.3 million a day to enfore this no fly.. UK made 220million from arms sales to libya this year alone.. gaddaffi promises his oil to russia (all of it) now they want him dead..
@burn413 why dont they help palestine when israel murders civilians there.. i dont see a no fly in yemen bahrain syria or palestine?? OIL amigo.. pure and simple..
Evidently both, President Obama, and Congressman Anthony Weiner, do not intend to protect, and defend the Constitution for the United States. That's the biggest issue, for all Citizens of the indidual States. It's very possible that there would have been no intervention, in Libya had Article 1 Section 8 been followed. Sheesh.
Eh, the parallels between Iraq and Libya are false, they don't even fall into the same purpose for intervention. In Iraq, the mission wasn't clear and we were lied into going there, there was no civil war if anything Saddam's existence there prevented what was going on now. In Libya, we know why we're there, the mission there is clear and obvious, the threat isn't to us but to its people.
We can debate all we want about the morality of it, but the comparison doesn't work.
The mission is not that clear in Libya. We were told that this Humanitarian bombing was to stop Gaffafi. But what if Gaddafi doesn't fall? Also we don't know who these so called "rebels" are. Also liberals who back this are hypocrites. Throughout the Iraq debacle the libs were telling us we should get in the middle of a civil war. Now they are telling us it's okay to get in the middle of a civil war in Libya now that they're guy Obama is President.
@xxashyy The mission is to stop Gaddafi, the possible results of it isn't a sign that the mission isn't clear. You seemed to have grasped at straws and failed. And again, you connect it to Iraq as though there is a possible connection to it, there isn't.
Listen, only make the parallels if they actually work. Because right now, this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario, just like Clinton had to deal with during his time as president (Remember Rwanda?).
@xxashyy It's more like stop him from bombing the rebels and his own people (Hence, the no-fly zone). Won't stop his soldiers from raping the citizens, but hopefully the rebels will. Hopefully.
@orgoonian You know, there are a lot of rational arguments against the use of military force, but I think that one is the weakest. Are you saying a civilian can't support policy?
@orgoonian Dude I didn't say anything about my specific politics, stop preaching to me about shit I'm not talking about. I was just debunking your bullshit 'how many of these guys went to fight' logic.
But thanks for saying you'd be against fighting Hitler, I think you've done enough discrediting yourself that I can walk away now.
This makes me sick. Cowards who hide behind catch phrases while other people go fight. Cowards who are willing to hurt other human beings, just as long as they get paid.
America the shinning beacon of the world???? Who is this Weiner kidding.
All u obamaniods are getting exposed for the sheep u are. U have no morals if u complained about Bushs war and now all of the sudden agree with obama bc he speaks nice.
@RandreadsKJV Thanks man, i just wish i didnt write something right after i heard it. I get so upset bc there are a lot of people suffering off this propaganda.
@orgoonian they aren't doing this solely for Israel. they're doing it for their own benefit and their own personal gain. you know how many oil fields there are in Libya? the Americans are predictable. i predicted the fact that America would go into Libya. America always have their say in things and work their bullshit so it seems like they need to be there. they never should have went into Vietnam, they should never have went into Iraq and they shouldn't be going into Libya.
ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT THE STINKING CLINTONS !!!! BILL SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL !!!!! ONE CORRUPT MOFO !!! I LOVE AMERICA THE HOME OF THE STUPID THATS WHY YOU DONT HAVE A MUST VOTE SYSTEM !!!! MOST OF YOU CANT WRITE OR READ !!! THATS WHY PEOPLE LIKE THESE BANDITS CAN GET INTO POWER !!!! LEARN TO THINK AMERICA !!!!
RedBeretXXX 1 month ago
YOU BELONG NEXT TO A TREE WITH A ROPE OBAMA
RedBeretXXX 1 month ago
The USA talked Libya out of their Nukes and when they were disarmed - we committed GENOCIDE. This is about Zionists killing Semites. PERIOD.
thewhisperingeagle 1 month ago
We are broke, the United States is $14,000,000,000 in debt. We can't afford to police the world.
m0nkey13 7 months ago
Congressman Weiner...what a load of crap. How do we say no?? What about the millions suffering here at home?? You whore, you jack ass, how about taking care or your countrymen FIRST. Jesus Christ, what, are you 6 years old? What about the Ivory coast?..or the recent slaughter in Yemen? The ONLY reason we are in Libya is because they have OIL. So STOP with all the lame bullshit and start taking care of AMERICANS!!!!!
Realitycleans 7 months ago
Constitutionaly, the president should have the right to 'LEAD forces into battle.' First foot on the ground, last foot off. Not a bomb or bullet can be fired until his foot touches the battlefield. He must remain an active participant for the duration, and must lead troops from the front, first tank, point man on patrol, etc. Like George Washington. He was a real commander in chief. NO politician should be able to vote to, or initiate hostilities of any kind unless they are leading the charge.
FreedomClause 8 months ago
The rank hypocrisy of fake liberals over Libya disgusts me. Bush uses the same ridiculous logic to justify war and they hate it. Obama does the EXACT SAME THING and they suddenly LOVE war and tell us dropping bombs on people and supporting al-quaeda is humanitarian. Good for Kucinich for being consistent.
BurningOrchids 10 months ago
@BurningOrchids
Too bad he sold out his own people by voting for the healthcare version of the patriot act, shame on his ass.
jmjfanss 10 months ago
Ron Paul 2011...
evrmore0mine 10 months ago
Enough is enough. No more warmongers in the White House. Someone, Democrat or Republican (or other), needs to step in and rectify what has amounted to untrammeled military adventurism in the past decade. No more flimsy pretexts or lies; no more unnecessary American deaths; no more billions of dollars gone to waste; and, in particular, no more pipe dreams having to do with "democracy" in the Middle East. By its very own definition, democracy stems from below.
necropolis71 11 months ago 5
Hey guys, you know what would be a novel idea for 2012? VOTE RON PAUL FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!! Stop masturbating your ego America! Do the right thing for ONCE!
ghostgate82 11 months ago 4
Both parties are full of it but just in case you don't know..to help the U.N W/a sanctioned NATO agreement isn't in any way addressed in out constitution...Sorry Dennis..I usually like you & what you say but you're way off here. Bottom line. We're either Exclusionary in our policy or we're Humanistic...Oh ...BTW..thanks for de-funding NPR & the CPB..both Parties !!
vikngwill 11 months ago
@vikngwill
Article I, Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power To declare War..."
Article II, Section 2:
"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States...WHEN CALLED INTO THE ACTUAL SERVICE of the United States.."
Fed. Govt. has no powers except those enumerated in the Constitution.
There is no definition of "war" that does not describe NATO's/Libyan Army's activity.
Even Obama said that the attacks on Libya are unconstitutional.
pebblelake1 10 months ago
Hey Weiner, support a war against Israel if you really care about saving an oppressed and downtrodden people.
pandajerk19 11 months ago
Get out the UN
kimlea69 11 months ago 2
it's not that both parties are full of shit, but a more demonstrable reality that both parties are full of zionist jews.
ufster81 11 months ago
@ufster81
and not only thaty, they are globalists.
jmjfanss 11 months ago
And the alternitive is? Starvation ,anarchy,A world where might makes right? There will always be those that have power over others if not by force but by coersion. When your vegetables grow better than mine is it right for me to just take and give nothing in return except to stop and watch you starve? Read history it has been tried and failed there is no utopia where everyone lives for one another. Along with that Human nature prohibits us from that behavior We have to compete to advance..
TheStrazy 11 months ago
@TheStrazy
Dear friend, learn to grow your own hearty veggies and juicy fruits and fatted goat and for about 1500 you can start charging some batteries with small windmill and solar panel. It's much more rewarding than the mind control nazi zero sum hoarders would have us think.
mavayu 11 months ago
I keep hearing Dennis Kucinich quote the Constitution & saying that we should be following it. If Kucinich feels so strongly about our Constitution then he should sign on to support H.R. 125, the 'Enumerated Powers Act', otherwise his words of support and "love" of our Constitution are nothing more than words. I've contacted his offices & created a video to help encourage him to sign on as a co-sponsor of this legislation. For those that don't know about HR 125, I highly suggest looking it up.
PsychoRocketRanger 11 months ago
this guy is a liar, plain and simple, where are the pics and stats of civilians being killed? what about the wmd in iraq, which was an all out lie. pretty bad when you cant even trust the government officials we place in office. liars and thieves
RandreadsKJV 11 months ago
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We need to change the Goverment of Syria and the Diktator.
News107 11 months ago
Obama is worst than Bush. Where is the Congressional approval? This isn't a dictatorships like Libya were Obama can unilaterally declare war.
Obama is Gaddafi. Obama is a dictator.
VexZeez 11 months ago
@VexZeez
Whatever.
A second term seems unlikely, but I hope and pray the next pres is not another demolican.
mavayu 11 months ago
put Obama and his government in the Libyan battlefield with an M16 and a helmet and let them fight their own war. Obama's doing well to justify his own decision to go into Libya through lies and deception. the Americans have no interest in the Libyan people. they want their oil fields. when oil eventually runs out the last country to have it will be the United States of America and they're making sure of that.
aidenmccloskey 11 months ago
so OIL had nothing to do with this "executive privilege"?! LMAO.. it is all because Americans stood up for the rights of the poor Lybian ppl... yeah!
log140 11 months ago
stop helping muslims and let them kill each other, since they have no economic value as people.
JBBlitz 11 months ago
Hope you guys in AmeriKa happy with all those "Hope" and "Change" you got from that Zionist pussy? LOL
MrSzalasiFerenc 11 months ago
what slaughter ? there is a civil war going on, its not the job of the US to intervene in a domestic rebellion that started in one city then thanks to western terrorist spread to more parts of the country. There is a slaughter and mass grave in gaza,ivory coast and burma but no intervention there ?
harj2009 11 months ago
LoL they are known as checks and balances folks thats just the way it is set up, The president must consult the congress to declare war according to the constitution. They are making the congress obsolete with the war powers act and executive orders and that in itself will destroy our system. No checks and balances = dictatorship, it may take awhile but it will happen.
TheStrazy 11 months ago
@TheStrazy I agree. The dangers of this unlawful behavior of ONE MAN issuing orders to bomb another country and the precedent that Americans are setting by saying that it's ok for this ONE MAN to order the most powerful military in the world to show aggression as long as he claims it is to "help" people (and as long as France says it's ok) is going to produce future slaughters that will make Libya look like a mere skirmish.
pebblelake1 11 months ago
"Money/market" is ROOT of problems, how do we:
1. stop corruption caused by profit motive?
2. ensure everyone has minimum necessities?
ANSWER
1. FREELY Share ALL resources & knowledge worldwide, NO more money/property
2. Use LATEST technology to create an ABUNDANCE of all our needs, NO more waste/theft
3. Automate/localize ALL production and distribution, NO more central control/wage slavery
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dontblockmedk 11 months ago
@dontblockmedk Let me guess. You have never originated anything. Never produced from raw materials the "minimum necessities" that people "need". Never designed any of the "latest" technology you speak of. Never added to the collection of human knowledge. Never created anything that other people want or need. Do you know how to tap resources and process them?
Also, it sounds like the only difference between what you call wage slavery and your form of slavery is that there are simply no wages.
pebblelake1 11 months ago
@p Perfect example of ad hominem attack. The real question are.
1 Can we produce ABUNDANT food, water, energy, etc for everyone or not?
2 Do we have the technology to automate most of the work or not?
If no, prove it.
If yes, 'money for labor' is OBSOLETE. So the only logical system is to produce abundance and just distribute it. There can only be force when there is NOT enough for everyone, ONLY with abundance EVERYONE is FREE. GET IT.
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dontblockmedk 11 months ago
@dontblockmedk Adding variables only goes so far 1. atm no we cannot produce enough food,water, energy,ect without a incentive behind it besides "goodwill towards man" 2. who would you force to upkeep said automations while everyone else was sitting there doing nothing?
Human nature by itself prohibits a commune type of society because of no incentive. The incentive in a normal society is greed, if not for profit but for name recognition. With abundance come abuse and people will still suffer.
TheStrazy 11 months ago
@T Most manual labor CAN be and a lot already is automated. Besides western culture, everyone in the world works VERY hard in terrible conditions, just to maybe have enough food to eat. In a system where all their necessities are FREE, the few workers necessary will be happy to volunteer.
Also True scientists and engineers do NOT work for money or fame, but to personally figure stuff out and also to help mankind. Money is a NEGATIVE incentive NOT positive.
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dontblockmedk 11 months ago
@dontblockmedk I do not disagree that those folks work very hard in bad conditions for food. Look at them and then look at us a society that has a incentive besides starvation.assuming some will be happy to volunteer? Who is going to go to school to learn or teach those to repair the machines? natural disasters such as bad seasons will create a rift that one life will become worth more than others and people will starve for the betterment of society. Its been done and failed, competition wins.
TheStrazy 11 months ago
@TheStrazy The world belongs to everyone. The revolution is NOW.
WATCH ZEITGEIST 3
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dontblockmedk 11 months ago
@dontblockmedk You don't get to decide the "REAL question" because you ignore the real world in which Individual self-interest finally defeated primitive tribalism and brought all this advanced technology as well as the acknowledgement of Individual rights into being.
Since you like lists why don't you come up with a list of all the technologies that were discovered or known about but never developed or improved upon because the tribalist empires simply used slaves.
pebblelake1 11 months ago
@pebblelake1 Thanks. The world belongs to everyone. The revolution is NOW.
WATCH ZEITGEIST 3
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dontblockmedk 11 months ago
@dontblockmedk the worlds belong to those willing to fight for thier piece of the pie. the rest might as well wait, until they finally get it.-----globalist propaganda.
the world belongs to no one. As long as we are going to see the need for someone to OWN something. It means we havn't learned our lesson yet.
monsterrun 11 months ago
@dontblockmedk LoL no money, no property wheres the incentive? Why dont you people pick up a book and read about those type of "utopian" societys and what they have led too? When a person is no longer a value(a worker) to a society with no money no propery they become a burden, Hence burdens need to be ridded from that society for the betterment of it. You are all for the genocide of "humans unfit of life" been there done that look it up it didnt work. Unless you want to be labeled a murderer.
TheStrazy 11 months ago
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces...
(1) a declaration of war,
(2) specific statutory authorization, or
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
Answer: (1) NO (2) NO (3) NO.
Obama stood there during his national address stating his present opinion on the "right thing to do" supersedes constitutional law.
Grow some balls, IMPEACH!
coffeenuts44 11 months ago
@coffeenuts44 Well said.
im1greatman 11 months ago
Bush III
amartin7889 11 months ago
for generations same speech the priviledge support undercover both sides its all about money resource control, viet nam was a civil war, korea a civil war, we had a civil war what did that gain the loss of thousands of lives, destroyed thriving communities, chaos, disease, fear, destruction!
also this is a civil war and in Rhuwanda we walked out and let the people innocent children women get slaughtered! un left! we slaughtered millions of native americans here in the land of the free!
karenl1234 11 months ago
All the people that were stupid enough to elect WEINER please go kill yourselves u retards!!!!!!!!!
osmansalkano 11 months ago
STOP US BARBARISM!
STOP GHADDAFI!
DenizliCalcio 11 months ago
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Republicans are only upset at this engagement because the war proffiteers dont have a monopoly on this engagement.. thats it. they wanted us to act 3 weeks ago before other nations joined us.. Poor Republican billionaires dont get richer on the back of the 99% of Americans who are forced to split the bill for it.. yea FUCK you palin.
producersmusic 11 months ago
The Obama Doctrine: "War is an executive privilege".
He is absolutely correct.
Weiner actually admitted that the law is a separate issue as to whether what Obama is doing is "right". Those who elect this men back into office are frightening people who can not comprehend what this kind of relativism has in store not only for the US but for other countries who WILL BE in our crosshairs in the future.
pebblelake1 11 months ago
It is so weird to watch a discussion in which Anthony Weiner sounds exactly like a neo-con, in every conceivable manner.
Staticnz 11 months ago
Obama pretending that congress doesn't exist.
The law is just with Kuchinich. That's just how it is. That's not even an opinion on my part, it's a statement of fact.
Now whether it is ok to break the law sometimes to do the right thing, that's a whole different question.
I'm for this action in Libya, in how it is set up and what it aims to do, but Obama is breaking the law in this action, and I'm against that. So technically or lawfully speaking I have to be against it.
Staticnz 11 months ago
Are you buying O'Bullshit? Cause I for one am not!
silverbullx 11 months ago
Kucinich: The Rule of Law
Weiner: Consequentialism (The ends justify the means), American Century, Neocolonialism
nonaCbarC 11 months ago
it's harsh they played split the baby here, If the talk is war Kucinich wins If it's sanctions Weiner wins. which side is best I don't know
sx200ser 11 months ago
As always Anthony Weiner is da man...
lSeKToRl 11 months ago
A disappointing and limp Weiner.
A bit like his hero.
Just whiter.
Peas.
AceHoale 11 months ago
Put Weiner next to a republican and he looks alright but put him next to Kucinich and he looks like a fucking tool.... Ugh....
Farf90 11 months ago
Weiner being a weiner.
PQPRockford 11 months ago
According to Weiner and Obama's logic, we should also be in the Congo, Sudan and every other country that is experiencing genocide. Question to Obama and Weiner; why were we so quick on going into Libya once civil unrest unfolded there, but we have ignored the genocides in Africa for many years? The people are waiting to hear your response.
LibertyMike1 11 months ago
bomb Israel then
marniespeaks 11 months ago
Obama sounds like a trade-show pitchman for Africom.
Aiden057 11 months ago
FUCK THIS WAR !!!!!!!!! FUCK THIS PRESIDENT AND ALL HIS FOLLOWERS WHO SPEND MASSES OF MONEY WE DONT HAVE!! FUCK THEM ALL!
NO MORE WARS!!
honestyjones 11 months ago
Team America: World Police... It's not a joke anymore.
DrinkSkateSleep 11 months ago 2
Article 1, section 8... IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!
Want to stop the wars?
FORGET ABOUT OBAMA...
End The Criminal Cartel Called the FEDERAL RESERVE!
youtube.com/watch?v=SbINVdRm5es?
Even Joe Biden thinks waging war without congressional approval is an impeachable offense:
youtube.com/watch?v=E-yIimam5Lg
RevolutionNewsDotUS2 11 months ago
Who is funding the "Rebels"...oh yeah, the CIA!!!
What are we protecting...oh yeah, the OIL FIELDS!!!
Weiner is saying the same crap that Bush said...Ghadaffi is a tyrant that is killing his ppl(which is a lie)!!!
Soetoro said something about Ghadaffi going door to door on his people...oh yeah, that was back in 1996 when the U.S tried to assassinate Ghadaffi.
Soetoro said Hillary will visit countries for political reasons on Libya...BS, she is setting up contracts "to build" Libya like Iraq!
bbnemesis123 11 months ago
Weiner seems to live up to his name...
pari1angel 11 months ago
You can tell Obama is going to regret this act of war
jeremy8080 11 months ago
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“I’m gonna read this and then tell you who said it. ‘The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.’ Now that was Barack Obama who said that on December the 20, 2007. We’ve got to be very sure here that we follow the Constitution, and president Obama didn’t do that.”
jeremy8080 11 months ago
The hasn't made a single military campaign, to anywhere in the last 50 years, except where oil is to be found. Coincidence ? We all know it isn't.
GeofsFilms 11 months ago
Weiner...is a dick
astoria791 11 months ago
PROGRESSIVE PAY ATTENTION. Anthony Weiner is NOT a progressive, he IS a NEW DEMOCRAT. He talks about single payer just to make you feel good. He had no problem voting for obamacare w/o a public option. obama didnt have to campaign against him in his home district like he did for dennis. Now Anthony is defending executive privelage of war? Dont be suckders, this guy is a wolf in sheeps clothing trying to detract support and money from real progressives like Dennis Kucinich.
thedaoofplus1 11 months ago 6
3:43 "Beacon of hope" Weiner is a fucking hypocrite thats such Neocon terminology
jackjillsean 11 months ago
"Americas responsibility as a leader" where have I heard that before.
Bush 2.0
Democrats= Republicans
jackjillsean 11 months ago 3
"Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries the unites states of amerika is different"as president you refuse to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves so you send our millitary and bombs to make sure theres even more people slaughtered than ever. or you send our money to dictators or terorist states like isreal to commit atrocities. WHATS THIS WE SHIT? THIS TIME YOUR ON YOUR OWN ASSHOLE.
metapatriot 11 months ago
Obama is another corporate thug in the white house. No different from Bush.
jneil2007 11 months ago
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Cashify 11 months ago
If I remember correctly the US Military is supposed to provide for our national defense....Not the defense of other nations.
ChesterMolested 11 months ago 4
@ChesterMolested
yeah and our allies
mavayu 11 months ago
wow .. the democrats are worse than republicans
Newspeakgeneration 11 months ago
@Newspeakgeneration No.
snipzor 11 months ago
@snipzor at least bush got it approved.. talk about an overreach of executive powers.. do you support obama's decision like his little weiner lackey?
Newspeakgeneration 11 months ago
@Newspeakgeneration Dude, you said the democcrats were worse than the republicans. Well if you wanna vote for a bunch of right-wing fundamentalist, social conservative, economically retarded, insane dickheads, by all means.
Stop being a one issue voter, people like you are the reason the democrats think that arching into further conservatism is a good idea.
snipzor 11 months ago
@snipzor well that would be retarded for democrats to arch because of my thoughts considering ive never voted for a democrat.
Newspeakgeneration 11 months ago
@Newspeakgeneration Again ur wrong, Bush and the Republicans changed the LAW, Obama is taking advantage.
TheBlaspheemer 11 months ago
Pay great Attention...Weiner is a Clinton Democrat a pro war follow the leader show boy.....Weiner, almost anything you say now is to me CRAP for now on.
How do you explain it?? If you are that FUCKING stupid you don't belong in government...thanks Weiner for the pro war sell out.
TheBlaspheemer 11 months ago
meet the new boss.... SAME as the old boss!!!
NowForTruth 11 months ago
Yes, Obama gathers power for the executive branch like DECADES of Presidents before him.
That said - I am VERY skeptical about some of the opposition to this action; I am esp leery of Bush jr cheerleaders suddenly being concerned over such things.
IOW, anti-war folks, keep a close eye on these people; they're dubious "friends" who have unsavory reasons for running opposition to Obama on this (ranging from partisanship to thinly disguised racism.)
OuTofJoY 11 months ago 4
Anthony Wiener sucks at the teat of Obama; he is nothing more than a servile lackey to the Zionist thugs, and I am not talking about the JEWS here: i am referring to ZIONIST THUGS, before any of you hypersensitive, brainwashed types go nuts.
billyguns2 11 months ago
Yes Rep. Dickhead...I mean Weiner...we should blindly follow your savior Obama...that is until a republican takes his place and then it's ok to speak out against war...seriously, what more do the American people need to see that both parties are full of shit???
MattAHTatTat 11 months ago 29
@MattAHTatTat I heard Barney Frank likes Weiner
ryno99 11 months ago
@MattAHTatTat In this video I see Weiner support the wrong thing, I think knowing what we all know now that Weiner would have a different answer to these questions. Going to do a limited action as described at the onset by Obama is supportable but as always it was not the true intension, now America is in a full blown opperation and footing the lion share of the price tag, this is not supportable. End the wars, bring all our troops home
daveusaz1218 9 months ago
im quite disappointed in Weiner.
so many people of other countries are getting killed too. so, why does Libya have a special place in the USA's heart?
Qadaffi said the "West is to be forgotten" and would only trade with the BRIC countries "plus maybe Germany". he also specifically said that Libya would no longer supply the West with oil.
this whole "people are dying" f-ing nonsense is BULLSHIT. USA's foreign policy is dictated by OIL, OIL, OIL.
Ristar85 11 months ago 2
Fascist thug! Joe Stalin and other dictators were criticized for taking sole responsibility for war and death, while this monster thinks he's above the law. "Standing by and watching the slaughter of innocents?" Isn't Obama standing by and slaughtering innocents in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq? We have become the heirs of Hitler? I am deeply ashamed.
billyguns2 11 months ago
I would give anything to learn reasons behind our military actions in the middle east.. What makes a man who was so against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (Then Canidate Obama) flip flop so rapidly with dealings over there.. I dont see it being a money income issue with Obama.. I might be wrong.. but He doesn't strike me as a Dick Chenney type. someone or some group must have really scared the shit outa dude to make him so Pro-War its just sad..
Tunedup81 11 months ago
Fascist thug! Joe Stalin and other dictators were criticized for taking sole responsibility for war and death, while this monster thinks he's above the law.
billyguns2 11 months ago
Who are the "advisors" common to bush and obama? Simple solution: Find out who they are, arrest them for war crimes and crimes against humanity....treason too. Then execute them and ask questions later. THEN find out who in our government has allowed this heist then go back to the part about the questions. If you are a patriot who loves your country, this does not in the least bit sound outrageous. These criminals deserve far worse, including Obama.
callouschristian 11 months ago
it matters not who is in office.
the Bosses of the USA President are still the same.
Ristar85 11 months ago
Kucinich brought up Gadaffi's corporate underhanded dealings with the central bank. Wow. Thumbs up Kucinich, thumbs up. I forgive you of your healthcare decision for that one statement.
seanlaca 11 months ago
Tie Weiner & Obama together & make one big zionist float. Attach a 1000 lb. weight & throw 'em into the Mediterranean Sea.
TripleSpeak 11 months ago
The fact is the US was not threatened and Husein used the military force of the United States without consulting congress. He de facto violated the constitution. Blatantly If this stands we are doomed.Husein spent north of $1 million hiding his school transcripts and birth cert. And now he does this. Any wonder why thinking Americans are outraged? Where will this lead domestically?.
mutexnet 11 months ago
Regardless of the reasons, why would it be ok for the President to go beyond the powers outlined for his position? I disagree with it completely and think it is absolutely ridiculous that he not only thinks it is ok but says so blatantly to the public. Why are we as a people so weak? America is very sad, indeed.
omnisingularity 11 months ago
@omnisingularity he's been disrespecting the American people since he took office. I hate to say this (because I'll be labeled something by the PC police), but the zionists really had to choose carefully after Bush2 because Americans were really sick of him (combined w/the financial crash). Of course McCain would have been just as dandy for their real aims, but shyster 'Bama would be able to pull of the heist of the Peoples' trust. That's why Wall St. was his largest campaign contributor.
TripleSpeak 11 months ago
Obama Doctrine=Bush Doctrine=Clinton Doctrine=Bush Sr. Doctrine=Reagan Doctrine=NeoCon/NeoLiberal, Fascist Doctrine.
ThePoliticalPugilist 11 months ago
Wiener. An appropriate name if I ever heard one.
mutexnet 11 months ago
Just one of the (petty) things that makes me sick about shyster 'Bama is the way he points the finger of his Nellie hands all the time like he's preaching to a class of kindergartners. Wonder if his feet are also small ;o)
TripleSpeak 11 months ago 2
@TripleSpeak: Indeed, Obama is just another arrogant and condescending politician. So much for "Change"!
Reformation1517 11 months ago
@Reformation1517 He's egotistical too. check this out : watch?v=5-WC2TgWwrE
BackToTheBus 11 months ago
Obama must be overthrown and driven from the Whitehouse immediately
also MSNBCrap must be taken off the air immediately
FILTHY LIBERAL SCUM!
frictionRx9 11 months ago
Obama is an Atrocity...
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Obama is a War Criminal...
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Obama is a Traitor.
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V4Victory ~ TLC
PapaLuvTLC 11 months ago
Jew Weiner is an agent of the blood-thirsty illegal state of "Israel". Americans are getting sick and tired of these illegal wars that benefit the wealthy (government contracts, oil etc.) and hurt the poor of the United States.
Reformation1517 11 months ago 2
useful idiot Kucinich protest against killing of Palestinians in Gaza...
therapydude 11 months ago
It's as simple as go to Congress and get permission. It would save the president a lot of blame. If they agree, then we go; if not, then we don't.
dnaak 11 months ago 2
Weiner = jew
sarkozy = jew
david cameron = jew
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theracemixer 11 months ago 3
If he refuses to wait to see mass graves and slaughter why isn't he invading Israel?
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago 2
"values morals.. being a good friend and neighbour to these countries" WTF.. going over on the pretence that we are helping their civilians to take their oil? They call that having morals and values? Jeez.. they tell so many lies they actually believe they are helping these people! PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT!
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago
hes seems a bit frustrated .... how many other countries shall well save from Dictatorships ?? how about starting with our own.
ZoneTelevision 11 months ago 2
Even though Kucinch 'CAVED' on the Marxist take over of Health Care and sued over biting an Olive Pit on Tax Payer dollars. He is the only Democrat worth listening to...perhaps 1 or 2 others on a case by case basis...The Repubs? Just as bad...Ron Paul and Chris Christie are worth listening to the rest are neoCON Liberal RINO's...
Livefreerevolution 11 months ago
i just listened to some firesign theatre and then listened (wasn't watching) to this. it's virtually indistinguishable from firesign, just as surreal except, while firesign makes you laugh, with this one, people die.
mispistoleros 11 months ago
america isn't a leader in anything except military might.
JackofOneTrade567 11 months ago 2
@JackofOneTrade567 even then they are falling behind.. they cant keep going like this.. pentagon already getting 50% of taxes the country wont be able to last much longer.. somethings got to give... its at the stage that wars are the only thing that america can profit from now..
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago
Weiner is a ZioNazi weiner.
Kitswain59 11 months ago 3
The US military is NOT the police of the world!!!!!!!
nuclide 11 months ago
Libya has a state-owned central bank. The Bankster puppet masters always go after countries who don't have a private bankster reserve system. Plus, they have oil. Bonus!
tolynette 11 months ago 2
Watching what's going on in the US right now is like watching an horror movie , the way things are going I wouldn't be surprise if Obama stays for a second term without any election whatsoever , the US is 100% a Fascist state owed and controled by Zionists Khazars false Jews...and Weiner is one of them. Wake up.
luc649 11 months ago 3
@luc649 I'm just waiting any day for the dollar to be devalued and all hell to break loose... It really is scary.. did you see that shit where 18-1 republicans voting on some thing to strip the unions and the guy was shouting this is illegal and they kept on going.. havent heard anymore about that.. seems corrupt as fuck
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago
Obama likes to use depleted uranium bombs on civilians in order to "help" them. This IS treason!
tolynette 11 months ago 2
@Lasse3030 Can I be like "Switzerland" and stay neutral?
That's what the Founders of this country wanted.
Read: "George Washington's Farewell Address to Congress".
Had we followed his admonition, we wouldn't be in the pickle that we're in as a country. Without our over-bearing need to meddle in other's affairs, the Middle East would have taken care of itself.
BTW: The events of 9/11 wouldn't have happened. The U.S. has made too many enemies out of "fatherless" sons filled with vengeance.
grizzzlyjoe 11 months ago
weiner has no credibility save for the rabid sycophant statists
sailfished 11 months ago
How many people would we need to Recall Obama?
Garlannd 11 months ago
@Garlannd Just 1. Lt. Terry Lakin who is now a POW of O-bomber.
Livefreerevolution 11 months ago
I see this happen all the time in Africa and the US turns a blind eye. But they have oil in Lybia, so the circumstances are different. Same thing in Mexico and South America. No oil, no help.
adrya1983 11 months ago
@adrya1983 exactly it.. if theres nothing in it they dont wanna know.. its not worth wasting 1million $ tommahawks if theres no oil to compensate for the cost to make them.. War=big buisness and always will be.. the country helped gets massive loan from world bank.. that goes to corporations who drain natural resources then once country is in debt & cant function they lose evrything.watch?v=puAbZPvm3Oc
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago
All you people commenting here are a bunch of dumb asses. You don't have the capacity to analyze and contemplate situations that have more than two variables.
Please stop voting for the sake of our children. Besides, none of you have the time to properly educate yourselves in depth on any of the issues. You are too busy working for low wages while corporate america uses up the last of our national resources to line their pockets with before it all goes to hell.
peoplepowered1 11 months ago
Elected representatives that vote for war should be placed on the front line.
MrGreeneggsnham 11 months ago
Lets face it, its more about oil. As much killing and slavery that goes on in Africa, but I dont see any military effort being sent their at all. You just cant solve everyones problems when we havent even fixed our own. If Ghadafi gets back into power its sad and people will die, but lets not forget that we're the ones that helped put him there in the first place, as with other dictators. Chickens come home to roost.
biggydx 11 months ago
@biggydx yeah and they are even considering arming these rebels who are just as bad as gaddaffi's men at the end of the day. &@the risk of sounding insensitive... these people have been killing each other for centuries, they make all these cuts... but UK can afford to spend 2.3 million a day to enfore this no fly.. UK made 220million from arms sales to libya this year alone.. gaddaffi promises his oil to russia (all of it) now they want him dead..
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago
Weiner needs a bayonet up his ass
dradis84 11 months ago
@Lasse3030 who the CIA?
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago
Kucinich is right, I like Weiner but he hasn't learnt yet.
kalidesu 11 months ago
why doesnt weiner ever talk about palestinians removed from their home and murdered.zionists mouth peice and oh yeah his name is PERFECT for him.
burn413 11 months ago 4
@burn413 why dont they help palestine when israel murders civilians there.. i dont see a no fly in yemen bahrain syria or palestine?? OIL amigo.. pure and simple..
MrLuvaluva67 11 months ago 2
The CONGRESS shall have the power to DECLARE war, grant letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land or Water.
ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8
UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
katey1dog 11 months ago
Evidently both, President Obama, and Congressman Anthony Weiner, do not intend to protect, and defend the Constitution for the United States. That's the biggest issue, for all Citizens of the indidual States. It's very possible that there would have been no intervention, in Libya had Article 1 Section 8 been followed. Sheesh.
ClutchPedalReturnSpr 11 months ago
Eh, the parallels between Iraq and Libya are false, they don't even fall into the same purpose for intervention. In Iraq, the mission wasn't clear and we were lied into going there, there was no civil war if anything Saddam's existence there prevented what was going on now. In Libya, we know why we're there, the mission there is clear and obvious, the threat isn't to us but to its people.
We can debate all we want about the morality of it, but the comparison doesn't work.
snipzor 11 months ago
The mission is not that clear in Libya. We were told that this Humanitarian bombing was to stop Gaffafi. But what if Gaddafi doesn't fall? Also we don't know who these so called "rebels" are. Also liberals who back this are hypocrites. Throughout the Iraq debacle the libs were telling us we should get in the middle of a civil war. Now they are telling us it's okay to get in the middle of a civil war in Libya now that they're guy Obama is President.
xxashyy 11 months ago
@xxashyy The mission is to stop Gaddafi, the possible results of it isn't a sign that the mission isn't clear. You seemed to have grasped at straws and failed. And again, you connect it to Iraq as though there is a possible connection to it, there isn't.
Listen, only make the parallels if they actually work. Because right now, this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario, just like Clinton had to deal with during his time as president (Remember Rwanda?).
snipzor 11 months ago
"The mission is to stop Gaddafi,"
So are we there to kill him? Because that's really how your going to stop him. It's not clear.
xxashyy 11 months ago
@xxashyy It's more like stop him from bombing the rebels and his own people (Hence, the no-fly zone). Won't stop his soldiers from raping the citizens, but hopefully the rebels will. Hopefully.
snipzor 11 months ago
Should'nt get. My error.
xxashyy 11 months ago
Bush 2.0
RadioSchizoUT 11 months ago 2
Weiner is a Zionist Bitch
xxashyy 11 months ago 4
"War Is An Executive Privilege!" ... uh ... not since 1781, it's not.
230 years is a long time ... he probably just forgot.
grizzzlyjoe 11 months ago
"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
Voltaire
iTellYouNoLie 11 months ago
When is Weiner going to enlist?
orgoonian 11 months ago 28
@orgoonian You know, there are a lot of rational arguments against the use of military force, but I think that one is the weakest. Are you saying a civilian can't support policy?
TomPiltoff 11 months ago
@TomPiltoff
You are entitled to your opinion of course.
I merely point out the hypocrisy of those who support our wars.
How many of them actually served in the military?
How many actually have gone overseas to kill brown people?
If they believe the cause is just,then i say dont fuck around with words,go kill them yourselves.
Our wars have nothing to do with national security.Our wars are for a tiny terrorist nation called Israel.
orgoonian 11 months ago 22
@orgoonian But I think you're missing my point: why is it inherently hypocritical to support a war without fighting in it?
I mean, I understand what you're implying. We can agree that it is definitely easier to talk than walk.
But still. Would you criticize American citizens who supported World War II and didn't serve? I assume you consider WWII a just war.
So is it only hypocritical when it's a war you disagree with? Or am I missing something?
TomPiltoff 11 months ago
@TomPiltoff
I have served in the middle east.
We(the US)are terrorists,and usurpers to those peoples.We have antagonized,and stolen their lands,and resources.
They have absolutely nothing to do with our "safety".
So,if the "war"has nothing to do with our safety,then it is a war of aggression.No matter what pretty word you slap on it,we are still the aggressors.
Now if a man wants commit an act of aggression,then he should have the balls to do it himself.
And no,i would not have been pro ww2
orgoonian 11 months ago 2
@orgoonian Dude I didn't say anything about my specific politics, stop preaching to me about shit I'm not talking about. I was just debunking your bullshit 'how many of these guys went to fight' logic.
But thanks for saying you'd be against fighting Hitler, I think you've done enough discrediting yourself that I can walk away now.
TomPiltoff 11 months ago
This makes me sick. Cowards who hide behind catch phrases while other people go fight. Cowards who are willing to hurt other human beings, just as long as they get paid.
America the shinning beacon of the world???? Who is this Weiner kidding.
All u obamaniods are getting exposed for the sheep u are. U have no morals if u complained about Bushs war and now all of the sudden agree with obama bc he speaks nice.
GROW UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Galicia1981 11 months ago
@Galicia1981 I Agree well said, obama robots, its sad
RandreadsKJV 11 months ago
@RandreadsKJV Thanks man, i just wish i didnt write something right after i heard it. I get so upset bc there are a lot of people suffering off this propaganda.
We really are living in Orwells 1984
Galicia1981 11 months ago
@Galicia1981 Im glad you did
RandreadsKJV 11 months ago
@orgoonian they aren't doing this solely for Israel. they're doing it for their own benefit and their own personal gain. you know how many oil fields there are in Libya? the Americans are predictable. i predicted the fact that America would go into Libya. America always have their say in things and work their bullshit so it seems like they need to be there. they never should have went into Vietnam, they should never have went into Iraq and they shouldn't be going into Libya.
aidenmccloskey 11 months ago