League of Legends - S2 Jungle Gangplank

[cyncmaster150]

Do you find yourself getting Q first less since they increased it's mana cost? Or do the new jungle changes (mana from mobs) counteract the nerf? What are your thoughts?

[jijasd]

Music makes me wanna sleep..

[cyncmaster150]

do you still take Q first now that they increased the mana cost?

[Royalemperorblue]

What's with the name of the mastery page? (Yes I know what they mean, no I do not understand what they have to do with Gangplank's masteries)

[FirionDarklight]

@Royalemperorblue

well it simply means stonewall uses the same masteries for both gp and shyvana.

[TheXiari]

ehm waht do you think of crit runes with gp in the jungle for ganks

[TheUnFailSpy]

@TheXiari oh god the RNG

it hurts

[mendik3]

@TheXiari relying on RNG is a bad idea

[zecRjee]

fail music..

[UserAnonymouse]

for solo q jungle trundle or gangplank?

[somanyyoucantcount]

@UserAnonymouse For any queue it's based on your team comp. If your solo top is already a carry like Tryndamere, then you take Trundle to lend a hand as tanky DPS support. However, if your top lane is say, Kassadin due to your team choosing an extra mage, then you choose Gangplank for the higher damage out put.

[djayjinx]

@somanyyoucantcount GP can also be build tanky btw and be VERY efective

[somanyyoucantcount]

@djayjinx Doesn't everyone build him at least a little tanky? I've never seen glass cannon GP :P

[Sleyer07]

I can Finish in 3:30 and gank, I dont really agree about going back to wolves just to get level 4

[zNoidy]

What runes are used ? Because from description I don't quite understand what runes you use... "Attack Speed 14% Armor Pen 12" - what does this line means ? Because you can't actually get both 14% AS and 12 ArP with marks... So what is this??

[PikoKnight]

@zNoidy 8 attack speed reds, 1 armor pen red, armor pen quints.

[Meanderthal17]

So is it better to try to last hit with Q on the big creeps? Or does smite give you more gold with the mastery?

[CurrYOverloaD]

@Meanderthal17 Try to smite him at the end for extra gold .

[az09ugh]

@Meanderthal17 Actually, you get the +10 gold whether you smite it at the end or the beginning.

[Meanderthal17]

@az09ugh Qwaa? That's awesome

[Awsorne]

Yarhar fedaldee do what you want cause a pirat is free

YOU ARE A PIRATE !!!

[darkdaggerdj]

omg the music is so creepy -.- like in a haunted house with a vapire playing the piano .

[banditoleonine]

@Farm4Gold wolves spawn at 1:40, n u will finish them before or little after 1:55(blue spawn). Which means u will have more exp than your friend and If u finish the whole jungle you will only reach lvl 3. He does wolves twice which will bump you to lvl 4..:D

[Farm4Gold]

Hey stonewall, I was wondering why do you start at wolves first? I do it because I get to blue by the time it spawns. My friends start at blue first and say it's better for the mid laner if they leash. Care to enlighten me please?

[gb52g4s]

@Farm4Gold basically ur friend sucks at this game

2k elo here.

[felixAUT]

@Farm4Gold u have to finish the wolfes before 1:55 (the time blue spawns) so that the midlaner doesnt loose any minions. you can also ask for some dmg on your wolfes if you cant finish the wolfes fast enough.

[kyrosia]

Can you still jungle gangplank with Vampiric Scepter? He's had a few nerfs lately..

[DIChronicAddict1]

I personally prefer putting the rest of my points into utility for that faster respawn/movespeed/longer buff duration.

[DIChronicAddict1]

Yarr!

[lizardass]

Why do you get 12 ArPen on most of your junglers?? the 12 + 6 from masteries make 18 and that doesnt really go towards anything specifically..

[elephantpizza1]

@lizardass you also get the 10% pen which gives off +2 arPen on the buff golems i think?

[lizardass]

@elephantpizza1 18 Arpen on buffs makes them have 2 defence. extra 10% is gonna make it 1.8 defence

[elephantpizza1]

@lizardass the 10% comes before the arPen calculation im pretty sure so itll be 10% of 20 = 2 arPen on the buffs

[lizardass]

@elephantpizza1 I'm absolutely sure you're wrong.

Flat is calculated before percentage

leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki­/Armor_penetration

[TheRealOxyKnight]

@lizardass its so that his autoattacks deal true damage to the jungle minions or damn close to true damage

[kYSMIGlolTV]

@lizardass making you do true damage to jungle camps

[Critias135]

Have you perhaps posted false masteries below the video? Because in the video you get 10g from Smite, but in the Masteries there is no point in the mastery for Smite.

[Azimatix]

Wait, can i jungle GP with my trundle runes from your trundle guide?

[Farm4Gold]

@Azimatix Why don't you just go try in custom?

[SSBTham]

i cannot perform this as save as u do oO

same runes, same masteries

is this cause of small jungle buff?

[J3FFR0L33T]

@SSBTham

sure you have the exact masteries as he has? Bladed Armor is pretty important.

[Sixty9ingChipmunks]

I see most gp jungle take e over q first (I know nothing about gp jungle) whyd you take q first?

[GivCandyPl0x]

i dont care what most people say i still prefer cloth and 5 pots

i get blue - wolf - wraith - mini golem - red -wraith - wolves then back

[vichetmeng]

I think the - 'Wolves -> Blue -> Wraith -> Wolves -> Red -> Small Golem' route is the most efficient route to take, for most jungler, for now.

[JustxDavid]

I have a question, do you need runes to jungle this route? or can i do it without runes and just leash?

[desertricker]

nyahaharrr 0:08

[kricher66]

why does this guy always choose the strangest music? :D

[TheWolfCinema]

/watch?v=avVXoBMnVqM

[Draugmoth]

@iAmKeos nah, compare: watch?v=V4Wy6YFl6Hw and watch?v=B4eCHPrzasA. Both clips from Season 1 before the potion nerf. Standard version uses vamp scepter, full game uses cloth+5.

[Draugmoth]

@reiquemmickey Many of stonewall's full games and commentaries feature cloth+5 start instead of vamp. I'm not sure why he does it this way but it is equally viable.

[iAmKeos]

@Draugmoth I think in most of the new videos (new jungle too), he takes vampire scepter because the potions got nerfed. 150HP instead of 200HP which is quite a lot early game.

[vichetmeng]

@Draugmoth Vamp is a better option compare to cloth + 5 potions. With the new jungle it's much easier to clear now, and you got that small heal as well. Plus, the potion nerf is also a bit too much. Getting vamp also save you the money that you spent on those 5 potions.

[reiquemmickey]

Personally, I feel cloth5 is a better start.

[grit1]

This one needs to be bumped to the top, the other is outdated

[Rapidfap]

shaco doesnt have a set path to make a video for because he can start anywhere and mostly ganks

[namiraftw]

what the .... u got 10 gold from improved smite?!??!1

[cryer3160]

i think that gp will be strong in the new jungle cause he gets extra gold from q, which means he will be more fed in the gold department...

[TheBaredor]

can we get some jungle shaco?



[DreamMorpheus42]

Hurm. Honestly, I'm starting to think that starting a game with a set route doesn't really work anymore. I've invaded every single game I've played since the change, since red is so damn nerfed. It seriously costs almost nothing to jack it early, and no one ever bothers to defend it. With a red leash, that gives you an EXTREMELY strong level 2 gank with nearly any champ. (Of the champs I have tried, I like this most with Riven)

Countering is back boys, and it's here to stay.

[Kiddalee]

At first I thought the song was going to be a version of the Tetris theme.

[ThEgLoRy205]

Team battle gangplank? i would like to know what you would build on him.

[viiisto]

boycott jungle, occupy top lane!

[Firefrogish]

@viiisto Top Lane is the 1%

[late4school1]

all of your videos u do the same, so lame

[AlexxD9]

@late4school1 Maybe because that it is the only jungle rute now

[late4school1]

@AlexxD9

then why make so many copys with other champs

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@late4school1 To demonstrate builds and shit. Why do you people complain, and still watch the vids?

[Jonereator2]

@late4school1 He is showing the optimal way of jungling what else would you want? :)

[P4r4k]

So? Im waiting for LeBlanc Jungle.

[Denmarkpwns]

Wouldnt deadliness and lethality be better than havoc and demolithionist?, on gp?

[CrossZiggy]

woow.. the minuteman GP skin looks retarded with the new animations TBH o_o

[Mrreeeeeemix]

is it just me or is the new gp retarded

[the666ms]

Waiting for xin zhao

[EnrageD420]

Malphite im waiting for :)

[SillyPutty125]

Gangplank needs a buff. He couldn't finish his jungle before the music ended.

[ShirosakiX]

@Pwnsammich still E

[ShirosakiX]

Dat new model/picture sucks

[Shernoc]

jungling is so easy now, everybody can do it with every route. hell even malzahar could jungle without problems. this is so screwed... thx riot

[L3Monarque]

@Shernoc What you're missing is that the junglers who did it BEFORE the remake will do it BETTER now.

People ignore that.... I mean come on, is it that hard to realize? The impossible get possible. The good get BETTER. So why even worry about the others if the ones used before are even more effective now?

There is still little incentive to use any other champions.

[piratehenyt]

@L3Monarque Well said sir.

[MrFuzzySpunk]

Farm, then either farm more and gank. But if the gank isn't succesfull you'd be better off farming some more, but if u do that u might miss a potential kill.

Farm, don't do what ur for so don't gank

OR

Gank, and miss out on too much exp if u fail...

Durrr

[santiagoacosta777]

@MrFuzzySpunk

That's actually why now it takes MORE skill to jungle...

You have to make choices... that can either win a kill to your team (and gold and xp to you) or get you (maybe) killed, and you will fall behind in xp and gold...

More chices: higher skill cap.

[E58565254]

@santiagoacosta777

not really due to the passivity of this game your more likely to just sit in your jungle and farm because the creeps are up. your not going to be able to gank unless the other team is stupid. weaker jungle equals more farming and less ganking. because of this the best junglers are now the farm junglers.

Note: i do realize that jungling is more than ganking and farming, but i believe that the new jungle is takes more skill, it just floods the meta with more bad jungliers.

[eliezerpoocats]

Red is so weak now :/ poor thing.

[WENDELVA]

best music everrrrrrrr

[HieroHere]

good music

[FailedSnail]

GAREN Y U GANGPLANK

[SuperHolybasil]

So depressing to watch...

[MausamRai]

I don't think they ruined it. I think they made jungling more generic. Feels linear

[mertibert]

@MausamRai Wow ... Ok so befor all it was was Blue to double golems gank. BUT NOW you cant really put in a time where all camps are dead and you can just gank. Now you gotta think about ganking cause if you dont kill someone or at least force a summoner its not going to be worth it. Its not linear its the complete opposite

[Pwnsammich]

After QEW, what do you max first? Still E or do you max Q now after patch?

[vaam8]

is gankplank ganker, farmer or controller?

[xKlasick]

@vaam8 all of the above.

[eliezerpoocats]

@vaam8 Ganker

[tomasiarity]

I want to see how does the new model looks on Sailor GP.

[Near10011101]

Olaf : 1:20 ? ;p

[Xirxem]

Wow, GP seems so much better!

[justin90876]

I have a question, Stonewall.

Would it be better if, by the time you finish red, to go kill the wraiths, then the double golems?

[TheDaCaV]

epic music Stonewall

[Garudaism]

That sad music

[Grannymuncher]

they ruined gp and jungle T_T

[JanickYoung]

@Grannymuncher no they didn't. quit yer bellyaching

[zsave]

Does the minor camps route (Golems, Wraiths, Wolves) still get you to lvl3?

[dirrwen]

@zsave Obviously no

[zsave]

@dirrwen Sad panda is sad... Ty.

[dirrwen]

Woah, new gp looks pretty fucking terrible.

[Beniodykt]

that music.. that gangplank. delicious

[KillerMoustache]

New jungle is kind of depressing. I could clear wolves, golems and wraiths with no potions or items at all, just runes. So easy... too easy?

[ZeRedSpy]

Any champ can jungle now, it's actually a good place for semi carries and bruisers that don't fit top any more. So they can farm up and just show up.

[SSBTham]

hey im gp and i gank with lvl 4, full life and started with vampiric

im impressed

[psymunn42]

@SSBTham didntcha hear. it is now impossible to gank because there's minion camps respawning, taunting you with promises of treasure. at least that's the League of Legends General Forum consensus

[kerl1042]

next nunu?

[SmackTabber]

Starting with Q?  Wow, times have changed.

[Lolaxx1337]

new animation look freeeesh

[TheWhalter]

Oh gp loses 2 bar of hp while jungling! I thought he can do the same as Trundle. Looking forward to Teemo jungle ^^

[ssbbleo3]

what happened to jax after the patch?

[woobhead]

@ssbbleo3 he didnt make it ;(

[TheKIngOFNOOOBSS]

Jeah the only good thing about new jungle is maybee a come back of eve

[1daggerz1]

u can do wraiths 3 times and still be lvl 4 ... :[ /GGJUNGLEXP

[karmaofgood]

Yeah, I don't like the new jungle, not for the reasons everyone is saying though. It's because when I kill the golem camp I feel like I am killing a father golem and his son.

[TheHippyhopp]

200 VIDEOS§!!

[Krati08071995]

Just waiting for eve jungle...

[Gen3ralZOD]

@Krati08071995 how much you want to bet its going to be with 14% attk spd, 12 armor pen, armor yellow, and choice blue (attack speed in the video)...I'll let you guess what item you start with. We get it stonewall, this strat works on melee champs lol.

[mart1nLP]

i was like "Jungle Ga..."ren pls...then i saw gankplank was like "well, it had to be done"

[Thrainify]

this new jungling already pisses me off. I smell a roaming meta, alistar bans are back!

[w1nGsEEEhTV]

jesus i can feel how boring this is gonna be

just farm camps..

[Gunzsoldier]

was hoping for Ga-ren

[silencioseu]

@Gunzsoldier hehe :D

[AZN0Kami]

new jungle is so weak xD

[EmEytch]

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