The existence of a God or Gods is in no way predicated on the fact of evolution. Many people believe in God and still accept observable facts like evolution for the same reason that we know lightning isn't made by God but still believe in him for other reasons. I don't hold this view personally, I'm an atheist, but it's not scientifically unacceptable to have faith in God. It IS unacceptable, however, if your faith in God causes you to reject already-established facts about the real world.
I'm not sure I understand you. I agree with the first statement, about God an science being incompatible. But "God is totally unacceptable"? No. I don't think it's unacceptable. It's a supernatural belief, therefore it requires faith. So, perhaps, in a scientific context God is unacceptable. But as a matter of belief, I don't think it's completely unacceptable. And "God is dead now!" makes no sense at all. I thought he didn't exist in the first place?
richard dawkins is an idiot. and so are christians and all other faiths. you all reject the flying spaghetti monster because you know in your hearts that you've done enough messed up sh*t to not get the stripper factory and beer volcano. accept the FSM, and he will never let you down.
Now to all you christians, does this sound intelligent? of course it doesnt! so why are you preaching such similar things? in fact, the only difference is changing the god FSM to that of yahweh. think think think.
Well there are some religion's who don't speak about Adam or eve or the idea that god directly created any living creature .... like i m a Sikh,and in Sikhism we have a believe that god is a vibration of energy called ( annahad naad ) which mean's everlasting string of energy
Wow. Forget the fact that they were all religious, did he go to a class made up entirely of stoners?
"...It's like a dream....but it's not."
"You can be made to believe something in science and you can be made to believe something in religious studies, but, and then, it's really up to you what you believe."
And I thought students here in America were "a little behind."
I think Dawkins' attacks on religion, although mild in this episode and harmless, are not very productive when it comes to getting people to accept evolution. If he would omit religion from his discussion of evolution, religious people would probably be more likely to accept what he says in the show. Whether religion and evolution are compatible, or whether people should be religious or not, is not something that is relevant to the science of evolution.
@Dawnofthehead I think the point is that religion impedes the proper teaching and understanding of evolution. The fact that religion and evolutionary biology are incompatible may be irrevelant to the actual science, but it is central to the fact that parents are actively protesting the teaching of facts because they are incompatible with their superstitious beliefs. It's more than just an "attack on religion," he's speaking out for critical thought and reason.
I do not deny anything that you said. However, I do believe it would be more productive to have a compatibilist stance or not bring up religion at all in educational videos. If someone is faced with the choice between a religion that they have spent their whole lives in and science, people normally choose the former. First get people to accept science, and then worry about the religion. The second part will be easy if you can people past the first hurdle.
I am sort of a fan of Dawkins, but his approach is deeply flawed: grab a bunch of militant individuals, tell them to believe in science and that that is the reason for which they have to stop believing their ridiculous beliefs. That is not necessary. All he should be doing is teaching science, no telling people to stop believing anything. They can believe in fairies if they want to, but it is important to understand science regardless.
@EconosPhylos You are fucking stupid . Religious school children don't equal militant individuals, whether in Iraq or England. He doesn't tell them they should believe in anything. He debates and promotes the scientific processes behind evolution.
It's sad really, that you make such an extremist opinion in the first half of your comment , because the second half I do agree with.
we believe in GOD but were not stupid as what youre trying to imply by the way you talk about religion please respect our belief. We understand evolution but if we also believe in GOD then dont argue... its how the world works... Religion also plays an important role... like establishing PEACE respect etc... what happened to you after you lost your religion? no more respect? :p
There is only one thing that i need to put my finger on, and it's the tree of evolution. By using a tree, we are saying that some species are at the "top".
To truly understand the evolution's theory, we need to use a shrub image. Every specie who still exist is at the same level of evolution from the others, because they are adapted to survive in their environment, in their own way.
Why does he need to pit evolution and religion so much against each other. No doubt they are connected, but somebody who bases most of their real-life views on evidence and the book of nature while still believing in God is light-years away from the bible thumpers.
Man this children are really brain washed. I am not joking but if i would have said in my science class that i did not believe in evolution and believe in what religion says my classmate would have made fun of me and treated me as some retarded Aborigine or something. Seriously. Of course god is a different matter and many of my classmates believed in god but not believing in evolution was treated as really stupid.
I am from India and I always thought that evolution was the default belief of origin of life. I did not know that so much people still believe in creationism. My science teachers used to teach evolution as the only answer to origin of life they did not even present creationism as a option. My parents are religious people but they too have accepted evolution. Man i feel lucky to have not born in a region were so much people believe in creationism.
Dawkins, slip of the tongue at 14.30, birds didnt change into mammals. It may have just been the way it was cut that made it sound like that is what he was saying.
I truly feel sad for you all. This is just allot of religious bashing. You idiots Never read the Bible that states that God controls everything. GOD ALWAYS puts things into parables like lit there be light (big bang). It also never states the age of the earth but people assume. I myself believe in God guided evolution and that every bit of the bible is true. This is why i feel so sad for you all.
@TheScienceFoundation this not at all what i wished to convey to you but as i can see from your username there is little i will be able to say to convince you otherwise, so i will instead pray for you and hope that you to will be able to walk the narrow path.
@sporeadict227 If "God talks and they write," why couldn't God just write it Himself? We already know based on scientific evidence that these biblical miracles are false and remain false. We also know of the many contradictions that Bible itself contains. Why would God have mistakes in His guiding book if he is indeed, "perfect"?
@sporeadict227 you see, the problem i have with god is that you guys claim that hes a marciful god. Yet, when the pharaoh didn't let the so presumed "Jewish slaves" go, God sent the 7 plagues to Egypt, instead of killing the pharaoh himself, causing tons and tons of deaths from innocent Egyptians. ALSO, do you actually think that the Ark story was true? Are you high when you read the bible, or are you just completely shutting off common sense?
@AlbinoAJ I am a Christian. I have been gifted to comprehended the wonders of science as i am in a class above my grade level. I know that time and space are woven together, that the universe originated from a massive outward expansion of particles and energy, that man and all other life has evolved from single cellular organism, and that the many other realities exist within an infinite range of possibilities. All of these wonders only point closer to the FACT that my God loves US. He k my name
@sporeadict227 I don't understand how you can believe evolution took place, but humans were formed from a man's rib bone. I don't see a slight correlation of god and science. Imagine you're thousands of years old. How do you explain the unexplainable? Create a deity that has created it who made us with a shitload of sin, but if we dont repent what he created, then he will send us to an eternal hell. Doesn't seem like a "loving" god, does it? EXPLAIN TO ME WHY ARE CHILDREN DYING IN FUCKING AFRICA
Do you then believe that day and night were created before the sun and the earth before the stars, because that is what the bible says happened, with absolutely no indication it is not meant to be taken literally. You cannot take the bible and science to both be true, there there more than a dozen contradictions between them before the 3rd page (and that assumes a large font)
@sporeadict227 I have read it, the Bible tells us to kill witches, gay people and those who work on the sabbath and the God character is a tyranical bullly.
@sporeadict227 You are obviously incapable of rational thought and may want to consider entering into some type of psychiatric hospital or joining a "copping with reality" self help group.
@sporeadict227 I find it sad that the human mind is capable of such delusional depths that even when it sees the facts infront of it, it is capable of twisting those facts to incorporate them into the previous thought pattern that the evidence contradicts.
Religion has been nothing but a scourge on our species.
I wish they would show these types of shows in the US more often, assuming this has only been shown in the UK; all the best shows always come from the UK god dammit! The US is really going down the tubes with the awful fake bullshit on TV nowadays... rotting my brain and the days youth.
OMG...what wouldn't i give to have Dawkins, Degrasse, Sagan, and Kaku as teachers!! AMAZING! I could learn more from them in one day then i could from regular teachers in a year!
while I don't believe in god in the typical religous sense, how in the world did anything get it's start without some kind of higher power? Yea yea, the next question would be who created that higher power. It's an endless argument like the chicken and the egg nonsense. But seriously, do any creationists honestly believe an anonymous higher power has such highly religious demands? Or can you honestly say religion is nothing more than then the rich man's creation to manipulate the masses.
the resistance to hiv begins with questioning whether or not the hiv test is actually identifying a deadly virus - the test has a legal disclaimer on it - its 2, 3 or 4 proteins for a positive result depending on which country one is testing in - and its based on fraudulent research that has never been independently verified or validated by scientists outside of the states - the definition of AIDS has changed many times and defies reality time and time again - big pharma has made a lot of money.
That little girl that admitted to believing in her religion...Natural selection has it''s eye on her.
ZebbMassiv 4 hours ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
Happy brithday darwin :)
TheWhiteFaction 2 weeks ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
Excellent!
edwardgreat 2 weeks ago
03:57 Beautiful girl!!!
SebHopwoodPK 2 weeks ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
All because Darwin was an idler at first
Thesocraticbreed 3 weeks ago
Holy shit I wish that Richard Dawkins came to my science class
00Elf1 3 weeks ago
@00Elf1 Go to the Reason Rally 2012.. you can hear him speak and perhaps talk with him.
Thesocraticbreed 3 weeks ago
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everyone in this video is kinda stupid and really narrow minded including the host
sjr98125 1 month ago
Who's stupid?
williamhaney60 2 weeks ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
God Is Dead Now !!!!!!!!!!!!
premranjan85 1 month ago
The existence of a God or Gods is in no way predicated on the fact of evolution. Many people believe in God and still accept observable facts like evolution for the same reason that we know lightning isn't made by God but still believe in him for other reasons. I don't hold this view personally, I'm an atheist, but it's not scientifically unacceptable to have faith in God. It IS unacceptable, however, if your faith in God causes you to reject already-established facts about the real world.
icarus313 1 month ago 2
@icarus313 God and science are completely different thing. God is totally unacceptable. God is dead now!! But people fear to accept this.
premranjan85 1 month ago
@premranjan85
I'm not sure I understand you. I agree with the first statement, about God an science being incompatible. But "God is totally unacceptable"? No. I don't think it's unacceptable. It's a supernatural belief, therefore it requires faith. So, perhaps, in a scientific context God is unacceptable. But as a matter of belief, I don't think it's completely unacceptable. And "God is dead now!" makes no sense at all. I thought he didn't exist in the first place?
icarus313 1 month ago
@31:06 zoologists plz tell me what's the name of that creature. What an amazing camouflage it was.
tensorbundle 1 month ago
richard dawkins is an idiot. and so are christians and all other faiths. you all reject the flying spaghetti monster because you know in your hearts that you've done enough messed up sh*t to not get the stripper factory and beer volcano. accept the FSM, and he will never let you down.
Now to all you christians, does this sound intelligent? of course it doesnt! so why are you preaching such similar things? in fact, the only difference is changing the god FSM to that of yahweh. think think think.
sorry8140 1 month ago
Well there are some religion's who don't speak about Adam or eve or the idea that god directly created any living creature .... like i m a Sikh,and in Sikhism we have a believe that god is a vibration of energy called ( annahad naad ) which mean's everlasting string of energy
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Dawnofthehead 2 months ago
Wow. Forget the fact that they were all religious, did he go to a class made up entirely of stoners?
"...It's like a dream....but it's not."
"You can be made to believe something in science and you can be made to believe something in religious studies, but, and then, it's really up to you what you believe."
And I thought students here in America were "a little behind."
STRANGEJAMES85 2 months ago
what the fuck, all those kids supported religion?
micshaz 2 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
I think Dawkins' attacks on religion, although mild in this episode and harmless, are not very productive when it comes to getting people to accept evolution. If he would omit religion from his discussion of evolution, religious people would probably be more likely to accept what he says in the show. Whether religion and evolution are compatible, or whether people should be religious or not, is not something that is relevant to the science of evolution.
Dawnofthehead 2 months ago
@Dawnofthehead I think the point is that religion impedes the proper teaching and understanding of evolution. The fact that religion and evolutionary biology are incompatible may be irrevelant to the actual science, but it is central to the fact that parents are actively protesting the teaching of facts because they are incompatible with their superstitious beliefs. It's more than just an "attack on religion," he's speaking out for critical thought and reason.
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@STRANGEJAMES85
I do not deny anything that you said. However, I do believe it would be more productive to have a compatibilist stance or not bring up religion at all in educational videos. If someone is faced with the choice between a religion that they have spent their whole lives in and science, people normally choose the former. First get people to accept science, and then worry about the religion. The second part will be easy if you can people past the first hurdle.
Dawnofthehead 2 months ago
I am sort of a fan of Dawkins, but his approach is deeply flawed: grab a bunch of militant individuals, tell them to believe in science and that that is the reason for which they have to stop believing their ridiculous beliefs. That is not necessary. All he should be doing is teaching science, no telling people to stop believing anything. They can believe in fairies if they want to, but it is important to understand science regardless.
EconosPhylos 2 months ago
@EconosPhylos You are fucking stupid . Religious school children don't equal militant individuals, whether in Iraq or England. He doesn't tell them they should believe in anything. He debates and promotes the scientific processes behind evolution.
It's sad really, that you make such an extremist opinion in the first half of your comment , because the second half I do agree with.
Brattonio 2 months ago
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@Brattonio first, get your panties out of a bunch. Then maybe you´ll be invited back to the grown ups table
EconosPhylos 2 months ago
Take that Yahweh, God of War.
William00048 2 months ago
we believe in GOD but were not stupid as what youre trying to imply by the way you talk about religion please respect our belief. We understand evolution but if we also believe in GOD then dont argue... its how the world works... Religion also plays an important role... like establishing PEACE respect etc... what happened to you after you lost your religion? no more respect? :p
harrygats 2 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
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Yes, and religion also leads sane people to blow themselves up because god wants them to.
ShouldersofGiants100 2 months ago
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harrygats 2 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
There is only one thing that i need to put my finger on, and it's the tree of evolution. By using a tree, we are saying that some species are at the "top".
To truly understand the evolution's theory, we need to use a shrub image. Every specie who still exist is at the same level of evolution from the others, because they are adapted to survive in their environment, in their own way.
DubStepMTL 2 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin 3
I love his example of geological time on the piano!
shango02005 3 months ago
Why was there porno music at around 13:32..... :|
AlbinoAJ 3 months ago
Why does he need to pit evolution and religion so much against each other. No doubt they are connected, but somebody who bases most of their real-life views on evidence and the book of nature while still believing in God is light-years away from the bible thumpers.
sulljoh1 3 months ago
These teens make me embarrassed that I'm a teen myself. I feel that i need to apologize for my age group
TeeGeeFan 4 months ago 2
unwillingness to face reality in front of powerful evidences is a good proof of what religious indoctrination is capable of
TheVis18 4 months ago
Man this children are really brain washed. I am not joking but if i would have said in my science class that i did not believe in evolution and believe in what religion says my classmate would have made fun of me and treated me as some retarded Aborigine or something. Seriously. Of course god is a different matter and many of my classmates believed in god but not believing in evolution was treated as really stupid.
mayurchanakya 4 months ago
I am from India and I always thought that evolution was the default belief of origin of life. I did not know that so much people still believe in creationism. My science teachers used to teach evolution as the only answer to origin of life they did not even present creationism as a option. My parents are religious people but they too have accepted evolution. Man i feel lucky to have not born in a region were so much people believe in creationism.
mayurchanakya 4 months ago 2
Dawkins, slip of the tongue at 14.30, birds didnt change into mammals. It may have just been the way it was cut that made it sound like that is what he was saying.
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I truly feel sad for you all. This is just allot of religious bashing. You idiots Never read the Bible that states that God controls everything. GOD ALWAYS puts things into parables like lit there be light (big bang). It also never states the age of the earth but people assume. I myself believe in God guided evolution and that every bit of the bible is true. This is why i feel so sad for you all.
sporeadict227 4 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
@sporeadict227 I feel sorry for you clinging to myth that has been long dispelled by reality.
TheScienceFoundation 4 months ago 49
@TheScienceFoundation this not at all what i wished to convey to you but as i can see from your username there is little i will be able to say to convince you otherwise, so i will instead pray for you and hope that you to will be able to walk the narrow path.
sporeadict227 3 months ago
@sporeadict227 Funny. Reading the Bible is what led me to lose my faith in the first place.
Gruekiller113 4 months ago 11
@Gruekiller113 sadly you have misinterpreted a great message and i will pray for you to
sporeadict227 3 months ago
@sporeadict227 The Bible was written by man. Case closed.
aloyarcboy 4 months ago
@aloyarcboy god talks they write
sporeadict227 3 months ago
@sporeadict227 If "God talks and they write," why couldn't God just write it Himself? We already know based on scientific evidence that these biblical miracles are false and remain false. We also know of the many contradictions that Bible itself contains. Why would God have mistakes in His guiding book if he is indeed, "perfect"?
ratedshady 3 months ago
@sporeadict227 you see, the problem i have with god is that you guys claim that hes a marciful god. Yet, when the pharaoh didn't let the so presumed "Jewish slaves" go, God sent the 7 plagues to Egypt, instead of killing the pharaoh himself, causing tons and tons of deaths from innocent Egyptians. ALSO, do you actually think that the Ark story was true? Are you high when you read the bible, or are you just completely shutting off common sense?
AlbinoAJ 4 months ago
@AlbinoAJ I am a Christian. I have been gifted to comprehended the wonders of science as i am in a class above my grade level. I know that time and space are woven together, that the universe originated from a massive outward expansion of particles and energy, that man and all other life has evolved from single cellular organism, and that the many other realities exist within an infinite range of possibilities. All of these wonders only point closer to the FACT that my God loves US. He k my name
sporeadict227 3 months ago
@sporeadict227 I don't understand how you can believe evolution took place, but humans were formed from a man's rib bone. I don't see a slight correlation of god and science. Imagine you're thousands of years old. How do you explain the unexplainable? Create a deity that has created it who made us with a shitload of sin, but if we dont repent what he created, then he will send us to an eternal hell. Doesn't seem like a "loving" god, does it? EXPLAIN TO ME WHY ARE CHILDREN DYING IN FUCKING AFRICA
AlbinoAJ 3 months ago
@sporeadict227 btw, big bang would have taken more than 6 fucking days.
AlbinoAJ 3 months ago
@sporeadict227
Do you then believe that day and night were created before the sun and the earth before the stars, because that is what the bible says happened, with absolutely no indication it is not meant to be taken literally. You cannot take the bible and science to both be true, there there more than a dozen contradictions between them before the 3rd page (and that assumes a large font)
ShouldersofGiants100 2 months ago
@sporeadict227 I have read it, the Bible tells us to kill witches, gay people and those who work on the sabbath and the God character is a tyranical bullly.
seonf 2 months ago
@sporeadict227 You are obviously incapable of rational thought and may want to consider entering into some type of psychiatric hospital or joining a "copping with reality" self help group.
EdensSiren 1 month ago
@sporeadict227 Go fuck yourself, god bless.
om3gadagg3r 1 week ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
@sporeadict227 I am willing to bet my life savings that you have never read the bible
omgitsaghiles 1 week ago
@sporeadict227 I am willing to bet my life savings that you have never read any long book
bushit123456 5 days ago
@sporeadict227 I find it sad that the human mind is capable of such delusional depths that even when it sees the facts infront of it, it is capable of twisting those facts to incorporate them into the previous thought pattern that the evidence contradicts.
Religion has been nothing but a scourge on our species.
EvitoCruor 3 days ago
How I wish I were in that class.
Aurrius1991 4 months ago
is it just a coincidence that Richard Dawkins' last name is only one letter different from Darwin? XD
steaminggreentea 5 months ago 3
@steaminggreentea Nope, it's all natural selection my friend.
SebastiaanHalff 5 months ago
@steaminggreentea Yes. LOL
MrUfologist 4 months ago
damn those kids are so lucky to meet the man!
supertito123 5 months ago
@thatcommonsenseguy i have seen the media got you.
ice7227 5 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
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I wish they would show these types of shows in the US more often, assuming this has only been shown in the UK; all the best shows always come from the UK god dammit! The US is really going down the tubes with the awful fake bullshit on TV nowadays... rotting my brain and the days youth.
trevafool 6 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
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trevafool 6 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
argh i wish i had teachers like him =( i love science^^
greenappleiceblended 6 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin 2
Dawkins is probably Darwins biggest fan
MonCoin 6 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
I wish Professor Dawkins would take my class on a field trip...
oldSchooLson 7 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin 4
OMG...what wouldn't i give to have Dawkins, Degrasse, Sagan, and Kaku as teachers!! AMAZING! I could learn more from them in one day then i could from regular teachers in a year!
Moiez101 7 months ago
Host Richard Dawkins is illuminati
adamkentrepp 7 months ago
@adamkentrepp Shut it clown.
alfvar 7 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin 4
@adamkentrepp
Better take those pills on the night cabin, wouldn't want to end up in a straitjacket in a padded room again, now would you?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago in playlist The Genius of Charles Darwin
They are good kids though:). Takes some of us longer to see the truth. Thanks for posting
JadeChaos 8 months ago
this would have taken a long time to upload
bionickill2 9 months ago
while I don't believe in god in the typical religous sense, how in the world did anything get it's start without some kind of higher power? Yea yea, the next question would be who created that higher power. It's an endless argument like the chicken and the egg nonsense. But seriously, do any creationists honestly believe an anonymous higher power has such highly religious demands? Or can you honestly say religion is nothing more than then the rich man's creation to manipulate the masses.
hospitalbedpan1 9 months ago
Simply perfect!
BrunoHP89IT 1 year ago 7
seeing all those teens unwilling to "question authority" was very disheartening...
nightmathzombieethan 1 year ago 47
@nightmathzombieethan
Yeah my generation's kind of pathetic that way. It's really embarrassing.
icarus313 1 month ago
Didn't really care for the musical scores.
BlakeLBoggs 1 year ago
the resistance to hiv begins with questioning whether or not the hiv test is actually identifying a deadly virus - the test has a legal disclaimer on it - its 2, 3 or 4 proteins for a positive result depending on which country one is testing in - and its based on fraudulent research that has never been independently verified or validated by scientists outside of the states - the definition of AIDS has changed many times and defies reality time and time again - big pharma has made a lot of money.
hivquestions 1 year ago
@hivquestions Richard Dawkins has quite a collection of cranks and kooks remarking on his videos doesn't he?
squealpiggy 8 months ago
hopefully in the next 25 years 1 in 10 will only believe the creation myth,then we will see real human progress.
ranchai100 1 year ago 2
Darwin is one of the most important thinkers ever. Hail Darwin.
nontheistdavid 1 year ago