Video #25, "Rick's Pipe Dream" Magnetic Motor-Generator Project

[crazypjk]

you need to get rid of the track and use a push rod a spring and a cam shaft

[TheRickoff]

@crazypjk You may find video #27 more to your liking, wherein the track is gone, and a push rod, or "linkage rod," as I call it, has been added. Cam action is too slow to achieve the desired pole shift of the stator at the tail end of a rotor magnet group, so a repulsive magnetic interaction would be used instead. Kind of a magnetic cam, you might say. Still working on that angle while I perform a series of elapsed time tests for various rotor magnet layouts.

[amcanmike]

I AM TRYING TO BUILD THIS

[TheRickoff]

@amcanmike Hi Mike, have you downloaded the builder's plans from the Pipe Dream website?

[TheRickoff]

@MrMatt027 @MrMatt027 Alternating rotor magnet groups of north-south-north-south is the most efficient layout for a moving stator or MOSTAT design. To avoid anti-rotational reattraction, the stator must be moved to obtain a pole shift as the last magnet of a rotor group passes by. This provides repulsion acceleration, and leaves the stator in the correct position for attraction acceleration as the next rotor magnet group approaches the stator.

[TheRickoff]

If all rotor groups were north facing up, an additional pole shift would be required before each approaching magnet group. In other words, 8 shifts total, versus 4 with the alternating layout.

[MrFcuku2]

rotational force? what is that

[TheRickoff]

In regards to the Pipe Dream prototype, a rotational force can be either a magnetic repulsion or magnetic attraction effect which either accelerates or maintains speed of rotation. Conversely, an anti-rotational force can be any factor (magnetic, mechanical, aerodynamic, etc.) that slows or stops rotation.

[VeneerBox]

8 months since the last video. I'm losing faith! (And yes, I have been to your web site)

[TheRickoff]

I hope that you enjoyed the website and learned something there concerning recent progress. I never asked anyone to simply have faith in me showing the way. My purpose was to implement the Pipe Dream Project, and to make it possible for people worldwide to freely participate in this project, share knowledge, and be able to replicate the test prototype despite limited resources and skills. In that regard I have already succeeded. If you are anxious for reults, then join the effort.

[miquelmahhhh]

5*..... we waiting more tests

[TheRickoff]

Instead of simply waiting for more test videos, how about joining the Pipe Dream Project effort, building a replication of the prototype, and doing some tests of your own? This is a world-wide open source project, and not simply dependent on my efforts alone.  So seize the opportunity to take part in this project, or sit back and be contented to wait. It's up to you.

[allthemilk]

great stuff!

just been flickin through most of the vids... very interesting

its probably counterproductive but rather than the track to guide the stator, could mounting magnets on the wheel (inside and outside the current circumference & raised to the correct height) ahead of the upcoming group of magnets not do the same job more effectively

i'm hooked

[TheRickoff]

The track system is no longer used. Instead, magnetic repulsion will repel the slider carriage inward or outward at the tail end of each rotor magnet group. The MOSTAT has been moved from the carriage to a pivoting mount which is linked to and actuated by the carriage movement.

[TheRickoff]

Thanks for your interest in the project and the videos. Yes, if a moving stator is used, and used well, it entirely avoids any "sticky points," so that there is nothing to overcome. You simply get one acceleration burst after another.

[cloud1232006]

Unless of course you can find a way for the slider carriage to be locked for the time needed so that it doesn't freely slide out of course, and unlocked in sync with the repulsion process. But of course testing may prove otherwise ^_^

I'll be keeping up with this project.

[TheRickoff]

The carriage does not need to be locked. When engaged with a rotor magnet group, the stator is in attraction mode and is self positioning. Between rotor magnet groups, repulsion will be used to quickly move the carriage and pivoting stator, and a stop will be used at both ends of carriage travel. It would only be at very low rotational speed that the slider carriage could possibly slide inwards, and downhill, when at its outer position.

[cloud1232006]

I see, can't wait to see it in action

[cloud1232006]

I can't wait to see the repulsion method for the stator movement. But if that doesn't work as planned here's an idea. Instead of having the track on the outside make it on the inside where the axle hub would be. It would have to be a continuous circuit to prevent the force of the magnets from pulling out of its desired course.

[TheRickoff]

The track method will not be used at all, because it cannot move the slider carriage quickly enough. Movement must be precisely timed and occur very quickly to gain repulsion acceleration advantage at the tail end of each rotor magnet group.

[jimbob3514]

Looks absolutley facinating and very interesting, i do feel with the friction of the center bearing and the air drag on the spokes and magnets etc it could never power it's self?? i hope thats what you are aiming to do?

[TheRickoff]

Hi Jimbob, and thanks for your interest. Yes, I expect that the unit will be self sustaining. The friction and air drag are very minimal when compared to the accelerative thrusts afforded by the magnetic interactions. And the new method for the MOSTAT movement will not cause any additional drag. You can view an animation of this method at the Pipe Dream website. See bottom of the "more info" area here for a link.

[valveman12]

Hi Rick

I commend you in your efforts in trying to make your wheel rotate under magnetic force but unfortunately this can never work. The reason it can never work is due to the fact that you need to do work to move the arm to continue rotation. This and friction in the system will always require more energy than the mgnets can deliver.

[TheRickoff]

Thanks for the commendation, valveman, but I believe you are wrong in your assumption. The assumption is correct only if I were to pursue the timing track idea shown in this video. Instead, I am working on a means of moving the stator slider carriage by magnetic repulsion.

[TheRickoff]

The magnets will do the work, and there will be no frictional drag. I am moving ahead on this and it looks very promising. I will be posting a new video soon. If you look at the "more info" section at upper right of your screen, you will see a link to the Pipe Dream website. Click the Archive tab there, and you will find a MOSTAT animation link which shows a 32 frame animated preview of the method I am using.

[brodie241241]

Sorry, also maybe off setting the mags in and out slightly to help reduce the amount of stator movement needed.

[TheRickoff]

I think you mean moving the rotor magnets, right? That cannot be done on a narrow rimmed wheel such as I am using. I do have plans to experiment with such an idea later by reinstalling my wood flywheel on the backside of the rim and overlaying it with sheet metal to allow a wide range of varying magnet placements.

[brodie241241]

What if you were to divide the work of one stator mag. into two stator mags. that were on some sort of fixed arm V shaped that teetered back and forth cutting the mechanical work by 50%.

[TheRickoff]

Actually it already is divided, since the hard drive moving stator (MOSTAT) magnet utilizes both poles. The new configuration places the MOSTAT magnet on a pivoting mount activated by the slider carriage, and requiring half the carriage travel previously needed for a pole shift.

[TheRickoff]

You can see an animation of this technique on the Archives page at the Pipe Dream website (see "more info" area here for website address).

[VeneerBox]

It's been 6 months since a posting.

Any progress?

[TheRickoff]

Yes, good progress is being made. I suggest that you visit the Pipe Dream website to see the latest information and updates. The website link can be found if you click on the "more info" link and scroll to the bottom of that area.

[thomsonluvsu]

Try building the track all the way around the wheel, not just in sections... wouldn't this be more effecient? Also, I watched a few of your videos, if you give it a good hand push, does it take off and keep going?

[TheRickoff]

No, the track is not needed at all adjacent to groups of rotor magnets, as the stator magnet is self positioning when over a rotor group. The track could be used in between rotor magnet groups to prevent the stator carriage from drifting inward, but there is really no other reason to keep it. My purpose in testing the track was to see if it could be used to change the stator position at the tail end of a rotor group, and I found the change is not rapid enough to be useful.

[TheRickoff]

Because the change is relatively slow, this leaves the stator in attraction to the tail end of the rotor magnet group, attempting to slow or reverse rotation. The stator pole change must occur very quickly to avoid this, and the method I am now working on shows much promise to offer that capability.

[TheRickoff]

If I had laid track at all areas where needed, and given the wheel a hand spin, the wheel would have kept going for a considerable number of revolutions. It would have slowed and stopped, however, due to the anti-rotational attraction mentioned above. The stator needs to move quickly into repulsion at the tail end of a rotor group, and ANY amount of repulsion will guarantee continuous rotation. A rapid change to maximize repulsion will guarantee high rpm and improved torque.

[thomsonluvsu]

You've inspired me to try my own attempt at something similar. You are on to something I think will be successful.

[thomsonluvsu]

I'm gonna try a modified version of you design... if thats ok

[TheRickoff]

Yes of course that's fine. I do suggest that you start with the basic Pipe Dream prototype build as shown in the builder's documentation, which you can download free at the Pipe Dream website.

[thomsonluvsu]

But, I'm asking if you had a track all the way around that moved the stator to the exact position needed, would that propel it?

[TheRickoff]

The answer is no, for the reason that a track can not provide a rapid enough stator pole change where needed. That is why I am now focusing my efforts on achieving the pole change movements by magnetic interactions.

[thomsonluvsu]

That makes sense, thank you for such a quick reply! :D

[TheRickoff]

You are quite welcome. :)

[centralscrutinizer76]

Hey Rick really like your expierments .Have you ever tried mounting the wheel verticle and using weights on the wheel as well as magnets . I think gravity maybe the helping hand you need to get it working

[TheRickoff]

Hi CS, The Pipe Dream test apparatus is designed so that it can stand in 5 different orientations, both horizontal and vertical, so there is no need to mount the wheel differently. A vertical orientation is shown at the beginning of video #17, where I show a wood flywheel mounted. I will be utilizing that 4 pound flywheel later, and will also be using balance weights. Additional weights can be added at certain critical points to gain momentum in a vertical operation, as you suggest.

[TheRickoff]

Working with weights in this manner is problematical, though, since it would require an off-balance situation at the critical point where gravity assist is desired. Unless balance of the rotor is maintained, the rotations will be slowed and the unit prone to vibration, much as an out of balance load in a washing machine's spin cycle. Also, when such weight is rotated to the bottom position it must then be lifted until it reaches the top again, with gravity working against you.

[TheRickoff]

I do believe that a working all mechanical wheel can be constructed, however, and that magnets could be used to enhance the operation of the mechanisms. I have a concept in mind for doing so, and will be applying that on the back side of my wood flywheel when I can find the time to do so. One thing at a time, though! I need to first carry on with my present course of experimentation, which I do see as promising. Thanks for your interest, CS. -Rick

[VeneerBox]

It's been 4 months since a posting.

Slow progress or No progress?

[TheRickoff]

Hi VB, The answer is slow progress. I previously spent so much time on this project that I pretty much neglected everything else that needed tending to. Realizing that winter was approaching, and that I was running out of time to do outside work on my home and summer cottage, I had to shift my priorites. This slowed my progress on the Pipe Dream project considerably, and I apologize to everyone for the necessary delay. Things are getting back on track now, and I will release a video soon.

[wasabinsoy]

Rick,

Outstanding work. I have a question/suggestion. rather than a track around the outside have you considered a small disc around the hub with an undulating slot to push/pull the stator via an extension arm to the stator...seems it would allow more prcise alignment.

best, Doug

[TheRickoff]

Hi Doug,

Yes, I have though about practically all imaginable mechanical methods of stator movement, and have concluded that no mechanical method alone, or in combination with other mechanical methods, will work well enough. Basically, that is because the pole shift cannot be accomplished fast enough without creating substantial anti-rotational force. I am currently working on a method that combines repulsive magnetic interactions with mechanical stator movement, and it looks promising.

[TheRickoff]

A gif animation, and a full explanation of the working details is available to show the concept, and if you are interested in learning more then please send me your e-mail address. You may also request to join the list of Pipe Dream e-mail subscribers to stay advised on latest developments.

[gymsim]

Excellent demonstration on your progress with magnetism. Look forward to seeing more. Keep going!

[TheRickoff]

Thank you, gymsim. More is on the way.

[jupy921]

Not sure exactly what you are doing here, but it is a wicked cool little machine. I've subscribed to see what else you are going to come up with.

[TheRickoff]

Thanks for your interest jupy. The work continues, though I am currently pressed to complete some home maintenance tasks before the weather gets much colder. I had done so much work on the Pipe Dream project from May to August that I neglected maintenence work on my house and cottage, so I am now working non-stop to catch up with that. The feel of fall is in the air, and temperature is dropping to the 30's at night. Sorry for the delay, but more is on the way, so hang in there.

[Asymmatrix]

Good luck Rick

[TheRickoff]

Thanks, A, I can always use some of that.

[TheRickoff]

You and I have no quarrel, James. I understand your shielding methods, and applaud you for your efforts. There is good reason, though, why I do not want to shield my stator. I want to take advantage of attraction acceleration as rotor magnets approach the stator, as well as repulsion acceleration as the magnets

pass by the stator, and this can only be done with a MOSTAT (moving stator). I'm sure you would agree that such movement would have significant advantage if practicable.

[TheRickoff]

I believe that a MOSTAT is practicable, and will continue pursuit of this method. Understand that I am not totally against shielding, and will probably use some form of shielding for my idea of moving the stator carriage with repulsive interactions. I may even experiment with your shielding method for doing that, if that is okay with you. Such movement will require 2 outward repulsions, and 2 inward repulsions, per revolution.

[TheRickoff]

The carriage will have a magnet affixed at each end. The inboard end magnet will be repulsed by two rotating magnets affixed 180 degrees apart on a central axle hub. The outboard end magnet will be repulsed by two rotating magnets affixed 180 degrees apart from each other above the outer perimeter of the rotor, and 90 degrees from the hub magnets. Thus, the carriage will move inwards or outwards with each repulsion, and at the correct timing sequence.

[TheRickoff]

The timing will occur at the tail end of each rotor magnet group, where carriage movement only requires a force of 1 ounce or less. I will be moving the stator magnet off the carriage and onto a separate pivoting mount which the carriage will link to at a point close to the pivot. The Stator magnet will be farther from the pivot point, so that 1/4 inch of carriage movement will equal about 1 inch of stator movement, quickly realigning the stator into repulsion with the rotor group gone by.

[TheRickoff]

This new stator magnet position not only affords high repulsion at the tail end of each magnet group, but also leaves the stator perfectly aligned for maximum attraction acceleration at the lead end of the next approaching rotor magnet group. I'm sure that you will easily visualize what I am describing, and will understand the great advantage of this method to utilize both attraction AND repulsion forces. Feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions or suggestions regarding this method.

[TheRickoff]

I realize that the term "moving stator" seems contrary to accepted norms, but see no problem with this description. My stator is in fact stationary while engaged with a rotor magnet group, but is then moved while in between rotor magnet groups to effect a pole change. Thus the stator does move, and it is therefore appropriate to describe it as a moving stator, or MOSTAT (an acronym I coined which has the same meaning). I think my viewers understand this, and are not ignorant of the facts.

[TheRickoff]

@sailingsolar: Please feel free to repost your latest comment (".Rick, My comment, deleted, was wrong. Your reply let me see that. May your dreams be realized. SS") I meant to reply to it, but clicked the remove link by error. Sorry about that, and thanks for your gracious retraction after reviewing my explanation. - Rick :)

[Asymmatrix]

I guess Rick ran into the same problem that every other attempt at a PMM runs into. No way around the gate. Nice try though.

[TheRickoff]

Gates will not be a problem, as a moving stator will avoid them. The only difficulty is in getting the stator to move the desired amount at the precise time when needed, and that is what I am currently working on. Progress is being made.

[FreeMagneticEnergy]

Make your design in such a way that there is no gate to overcome in the first place. I have posted a demo that shows where there is no gate problem to be resolved.

/watch?v=uqoDOl7Q7J8&feature=c­hannel_page

[TheRickoff]

That's right, and Pittsburg is much closer to Maine. For that matter, I don't have a Maine accent because I grew up in New Jersey, which is even closer to Pittsburg, and have simply lived in Maine the past 44 years.

[MrAagje]

Something completely different: I am a Dutchman and in my ears the sound of your voice reminds me of the voice of Congressman Ron Paul. Could it be that both of you come from about the same area in the States? Texas?

[TheRickoff]

No, we may sound somewhat similar because we are both Americans, but I am from Maine, which is very far from Texas.

[MrAagje]

I found he comes from Pittsburg, Pa.

His accent isn't really Texan, is it?

[TheRickoff]

Yes, the 4 rotor magnet groups are arranged symmetrically around the rotor, although in changing pole configurations. I do realize that multiple stators, arranged non-symmetrically, will be the preferred arrangement, but before embarking on that deployment it is my intention to obtain the best possible rotation from a single stator.

[MrAagje]

You demonstrated in you video's that the attraction and repulsion does not happen only in the direction of the rotation, but also in the radial direction (perpendicular to the first. You even measured the forces. (Great, BTW)

So it is not just shifting the stator to and fro, but also conquering these forces.

[TheRickoff]

Correct, although stator movement requires less than 1 ounce of force if it is done after the last magnet of a rotor group passes the stator. The only trick involved in this is getting the stator to shift positions very rapidly so that repulsion effect is maximized as much as possible at the tail end of a rotor magnet group. If movement is slow, as with the track system, this cannot be accomplished, and attraction force will attempt to halt rotation.

[MrAagje]

Besides that, your system seems to be perfectly symmetrical. If you move the stator magnet differently, the wheel will spin the other way around with the same ease or difficulty. It does not prefer a certain rotating direction. That should make you think too.

Does this help?

[TheRickoff]

Actually the wheel does prefer a cetain direction of rotation. To reverse the direction of rotation, I must orient the stator magnet to an alignment that is 180 degrees from its current position, or begin and continue stator movements starting with the opposite pole from what was demonstrated. In that case, what has been considered as the lead-in magnet of a rotor magnet group in attraction mode would become the tail-end repulsive point during rotation.

[MrAagje]

Yes, one half of the wheel prefers one direction, the other prefers the opposite direction. That is what I meant by no preference and symmetry.

To keep it moving, you need to change the configuration repeatedly, and that is, I believe where the external energy is put in.

[TheRickoff]

Yes, the stator must be repeatedly moved to shift pole positions and remain in a desired state of attraction or repulson. The N-S-N-S configuration of the 4 rotor groups, however, only requires 4 stator movements per revolution, while 8 accelerations are realized. That cuts the work in half. Also consider that each shift to attraction mode is largely accomplished automaticaly by the attraction force involved, and this further reduces the required workload on the unit.

[FearRonPaulCultists]

it won't do you any good. you have to add a form of energy.

[TheRickoff]

Perhaps, but suppose that I add that energy in the form of magnetic repulsion that moves the stator carriage outwards and inwards. There would be no anti- rotational effect, because the stator carriage moves quite freely at the desired pole shift point, and moves in a direction that does not oppose rotor rotation.

[notyoursister]

No "perhaps" at all. She is 100% correct. It is impossible to use magnets to perform work: you have to add energy.

[TheRickoff]

An argumentative statement of opinion based on your belief system, which is just as far removed from reality as your statement concerning solar flares and your insistence that there is no such thing as MAGNETIC ENERGY.

[MrAagje]

Of course. I do not disagree with that. OK, use a set of magnets to energize the swing. The principle does not change in my view. Nor does the type of movement. Without friction, the swing keeps moving as a pendulum, just as your wheel keeps rotating in the horizontal. Acceleration happens because you add energy pulses. It does not matter so much if you use magnets or a blowing stream of air or pulling cords or an electro motor or what have you.

[TheRickoff]

If you watch this video again, and are closely observant, you will notice that the rotor begins movement from a repulsive position at the tail end of a rotor magnet group, and that the next approaching rotor magnet group is in attraction to the stator. You will see that the rotor accelerates at this second point, that this happens because of the magnetic interactions involved, and not because I am adding an energy pulse at this point in the rotation.

[TheRickoff]

Yes, in the earlier videos it is understood that I did manually supply whatever energy was required to move the stator into the desired alignments for attraction or repulsion effects, but rotor rotation only results from those effects. Therefore, if stator movement can be accomplished mechanically and/or magnetically then undeniably the rotor will rotate as a result.

[TheRickoff]

Gravity has no effect on rotational movement of this device because it is perfectly leveled, and I never said that energy was coming from "nowhere." You can't compare swing movement to rotor movement unless you attach a magnet to the swing seat and then use another magnet to "push" the swing, and even then the swing moves in an arc where the rotor does not. All rotor motion is due to magnetic interactions causing attraction and repulsion.

[MrAagje]

I think you can compare your device with a swing. It uses gravity in stead of magnets. You can get the swing go higher (more energy) by giving it little pushes at the right time.

So you add energy to it manually. I believe that is what you are actually doing in the earlier videos. I am sorry, but that is my explanation. I do not see energy coming from "nowhere". Please prove me wrong.

[MrAagje]

Rick,

You try to move your stator magnet with a track.

But as the position is totally coupled to the position of the wheel, would it not be much easier to make the stator magnet really fixed and position the rotor magnets at each place of the wheel in the right position for the stator magnets.

As these positions are symmetrical, it would not be a big problem, but you would need a wheel with a widere rim.

Just my thoughts

[MrAagje]

Anyway, I like your video-series very much, because you take much care to show and explain what you are doing. Like a good teacher.

I have doubts about the outcome, but people sometimes really get surprised.

And you show how to experiment. That is a very good thing!

[TheRickoff]

Thanks for your comments. Glad you have enjoyed the video series. - Rick

[TheRickoff]

Actually, it would be nearly impossible to arrange the rotor magnets to obtain the desired repulsive effect at the tail end of each magnet group if the stator is in a fixed position. That's because in order to be aligned closely for repulsion, the tail end rotor magnet would have to pass beneath the stator magnet at the opposite pole from that which the lead-in magnet was aligned to. Therefore, you would see anti-rotational repulsion canceling out any beneficial repulsion effect - not good.

[TheRickoff]

If you can map out a rotor magnet layout diagram showing how maximum, or near maximum repulsion can be achieved without the tail end rotor magnet approaching and passing beneath the like pole of a fixed stator, I'm all eyes and ears. Feel free to e-mail me with the attachment diagram if you can work it out somehow. Good luck to you. - Rick

[BETTERTOMARROW]

We need are pipe dream's keep going!!

[TheRickoff]

Do not fear - the Pipe Dream Project will continue. Rest assured of that. :)

[2ericmyers2]

There is no such thing as ""magnetic energy"" and as someone else pointed out, you need to read for comprehension.

[TheRickoff]

It looks like you need to read the quote from NASA appearing directly above your nonsensical post. It is quite evident that NASA scientists, and other top level scientists and researchers worldwide, who ae working on the THEMIS project, would totally disagree with you. I believe they are correct, and will side with them. You can continue to hold on to old shool theories if you want, and that doesn't bother me at all. But until you can disprove what NASA is saying, don't bother coming back.

[GroundSloth1]

There is no such thing as magnetic energy.

[TheRickoff]

Redundant and nonsensical post. A half dozen, or a hundred dozen people saying that magnetic energy does not exist does not make it so. You are clinging to old school beliefs. Read up on NASA's THEMIS project, which just recently proved that magnetic energy is very real.

"Researchers have discovered that an explosion of MAGNETIC ENERGY a third of the way to the moon powers substorms, sudden brightenings and rapid movements of the aurora borealis, called the Northern Lights." - NASA

[2ericmyers2]

Redundant because you refuse to learn basic physics. Magnetic fields can be imparted with potential energy from an outside source: there is no such thing as ""magnetic energy"" and the phrase itself is meaningless. Solar flares are powered by the fusion of hydrogen; auroras are excited by the solar wind; neither phenomena get any energy at all from magnetic fields.

[TheRickoff]

How then do you explain the statements by NASA scientists, and many other researchers worldwide who are involved in the THEMIS project, who use the term "MAGNETIC ENERGY" and state that solar flares are caused by a sudden release of MAGNETIC ENERGY? And what about thequote from NASA, appearing directly above your post, which directly contradicts what you are saying about auroras? I guess you think these scientists are just a bunch of wackos, and that you are far smarter than them, right?

[Giwohfi]

There is no such thing as "magnetic energy;" solar flares are not caused by "magnetic energy;" auroras are not caused by "magnetic energy." You will not find any physicist who says there is such a thing as "magnetic energy."

Try again.

[TheRickoff]

Boring and redundant comment, having no factual basis. Read the statement directly above your comment, and then study the THEMIS project findings. Don't waste your time and mine with any further drivel unless you can prove that NASA's findings and statements are wrong. Can you do that? I don't think so, and until then I stand with NASA and other top level scientists regarding MAGNETIC ENERGY.

[TheRickoff]

Oh, and regarding your statement,"You will not find any physicist who says there is such a thing as MAGNETIC ENERGY," I'm afraid you must eat humble pie as you read the quote tha follows:

[TheRickoff]

"The most plausible and commonly accepted mechanism of plasma acceleration due to conversion of the MAGNETIC ENERGY into plasma kinetic and thermal energy is known as magnetic reconnection." - Andrei Runov, a research space physicist with the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at the University of California, Los Angeles. His current research interests are the physics of magnetospheric substorms, dynamics of space current sheets, and particle energization in space plasmas.

[DeadDesertphile]

Half the comments are missing: why were they deleted? I see I must embarrass you in a video.

[TheRickoff]

I only remove comments that are mean spirited, rude, obnoxious, off topic, or redundant. And I only block people who do not respect these rules. I left your original statement in place, and there is no need to restste your belief that MAGNETIC ENERGY does not exist. Believe whatever you wish, but stop beating a dead horse. What you have said is incorrect, and refuted by the world's leading scientists. Post this rubbish on your own channel if you wish, but cease your malarkey here.

[TribelessWarrior]

I look forward to your video.

[Giwohfi]

He deleted over a dozen comments because they embarrassed him. Pretty sad to see, but cult members behave the same regardless of the cult.

[TheRickoff]

Nothing stated in any of the comment sections of my 25 videos has embarrassed me in the least. I welcome any and all polite comments, both from those who agree or disagree with me. I only delete comments which are mean spirited, rude, vulgar, redundant, or totally off topic. If your comments fall into those categories, you can expect them to be deleted, so take notice.

[tonyhoek1]

Rickoff, I have been watching your videos, and I am impressed by you calm collective nature when responding to negativity among viewers.

I could not help but question the matter of leverage in the placement of your curve to the outside of the magnets. I would think this would create more difficult work to overcome the "ride" up the slope. By placing the curve to the inside of the magnets, it should give them the mechanical advantage to overcome the slope. What do you think.?

dont ever give up

[TheRickoff]

Hi Tony,

Your assessment is somewhat correct, in that the track curve would be bettr located inward from the rotor magnets. The slope of the carriage slider rail really isn't a problem, though, except at very low rotor speed. During the transition period, between the rotor magnet groups, there is less than an ounce of force needed to move the stator carriage outward. At slow speed, the carriage can retreat inwards enough to be out of position for attraction at the next rotor group.

[TheRickoff]

A short segment of track, between the rotor magnet groups, could be used to prevent the stator from retreating down the slope, simply being used to catch and hold the position of the carriage momentarily, then allowing free movement of the stator as it approaches the attraction point. Used in this manner, the track needs no curvature, since it would only be used to maintain the position of the stator - not to move it. The stator still needs to be moved, of course, but by a different method.

[TheRickoff]

I am currently working on another mechanical method of moving the stator, and this will utilize far greater mechanical advantage. If this still isn't enough to obtain sufficient repulsive kick at the tail end of each rotor magnet group, I will then work on utilizing magnetic interactions to either assist the mechanical method, or entirely provide the necessary force to move the stator as required.

[edwardsaladhands]

hi bud love the amount of work that ur putting into it fairplay mate.i hav just subscribed plees could u add me as friend.cheers

[TheRickoff]

These are totally incorrect assumptions. Magnetic energy is the result of aligned particle spin at the atomic level, and can only wane or cease if the alignment changes. Such change is normally caused by electric currents, overheating, or striking the magnet. Absent those demagnetizing forces, a neodymium magnet will retain its magnetic energy for hundreds of years. To understand these concepts, read the works of Howard Johnson and Joseph Newman.

[TribelessWarrior]

No, he or she is 100% correct: Permanent magnets have no energy. They can convert one form of energy into another, but magnetic fields are static--- they add no energy to a system because they have no energy. See the MIT 802 series for the mathematical proof.

[jabberwock11]

This can't work. Permanent magnets only store a bit of potential energy when repealing or attracting. Once they come together or move apart the energy is gone. It will also take just as much energy to flip a magnet or insert or remove any shielding. You will never get this it run. It's like trying to get a motor to run on gravity. It can't be done. Don't waste any more of your time or money on this.

[TheRickoff]

Oops, sorry Ernie, it looks like I must have clicked the Remove button on your post by error. Anyways, to answer your question, more will be coming soon. I just sent an update to everyone on the Pipe Dream e-mail list a couple of days ago, explaining what is currently going on. I suggest you send me a request to join the list so that you will also receive these frequent updates. - Rick

[X00000013]

Where did the source of energy come from in order for the "big bang" to happen? Surely this Bang needed an energy source, yes?

[syndrome95]

Most convenient way usually being an electromagnet which you can more accurately turn on or off or play with its polarity.

I noted what I believe to be the potential problem with your set up. You are using I think a powerful hard drive magnet as your moving stator. The way the flux flow on those magnets allows youre design to easily change polarity by moving along that slider with its desirable lines of flux when it first gets kicked over by your little track during the first 180 degrees

[TheRickoff]

I've said it before, several times, and will say it again - no electromagnets will be used in this prototype. Think mechanical and magnetic means of movement only, and then let me know if you have a good idea.

[Desertphile]

"Think mechanical and magnetic means of movement only....."

You will also need a source of energy.

[TheRickoff]

It seems that you have not heard of Magnetic Energy.

[Desertphile]

It seems that you have not heard there is no such thing as "magnetic energy."

[TheRickoff]

Use "magnetic energy" as a search phrase in Wikipedia before making another such ridiculous statement.

[TheRickoff]

Also read this quote from NASA - "As the Sun's ionized and magnetized particles are passing by Earth they impart mechanical energy which is transformed into MAGNETIC ENERGY by compressing the tail. The tail field lines eventually merge (or "reconnect") and slingshot particles towards and away from Earth, thereby converting magnetic into particle energy."

For those who still don't think that magnetic energy exists, study solar flares, which are releases of magnetic energy.

[TheRickoff]

Q - What is the cause of the sudden and spectacular brightening that we see when viewing the Aurora Borealis (Northern Lights)?

A - MAGNETIC ENERGY

[DeadDesertphile]

No, neither auroras are caused by "magnetic energy." There is no such thing. Please read the WikiPedia entry on the subject. Your blocking people to stop them from posting the truth will never make your idiot wheel spin.

[TheRickoff]

There is no truth in what you write. Try a Google search with the words "aurora" and "magnetic energy" and you will see over 8,000 scientific sources which say that MAGNETIC ENERGY from solar flares is the cause of aurora brightening. This was not understood until recent times, when the NASA studies dicovered the truth. Now this truth is accepted by leading scientists worldwide. It's time to wake up and accept the facts. You dwell on old school principles that have no basis in fact.

[TheDementedVet]

Ah, no. Solar flares are energized by the fusion of hydrogen nuclei, which are then carried by Earth's magnetic field; at no time does the magnetic field impart any energy to the auroras. Try reading for comprehension.

[TribelessWarrior]

You and desertfile (and others i suppose- i didn't read the censored comments) are of course 100% correct. I've been a field electrical engineer for 22 years, and I am a graduate of MIT; it is basic physics, taught in the first week of the electromagnetic series at MIT, that electromagnetic fields do not add any energy to a system--- they carry potential energy imparted to them from some other system. There is no such thing as magnetic energy and the very concept is absurd.

Sorry TheRickoff.

[TheRickoff]

Tell that to the THEMIS project scientists at NASA's Goddard Center, and research scientists at the University of California, Los Angeles, who have proven otherwise.

[TheRickoff]

"A solar flare originates within the sun, and is caused by a build up of MAGNETIC ENERGY." - Dr. Jim Conwell, a physics professor at Eastern Illinois University, whose area of research is General Relativity and relativistic astrophysics.

[TheRickoff]

Dear DementedVet, try reading THIS for comprehension: "A solar flare occurs when MAGNETIC ENERGY that has built up in the solar atmosphere is suddenly released." - NASA

[notyoursister]

No, they do not. Solar flares have nothing to do with "magnetic energy" nor is there such a thing.

[TheRickoff]

You are simply stating your opinion, which does not hold up against the factual data that the NASA THEMIS project has produced. Give us a detailed, evidence based refutation if you can.

[TheRickoff]

You, and some others who have posted similar redundant comments here, appear to think you are more knowledgeable than NASA scientists. Are your qualifications higher than theirs? If so what are they? If not, then please refrain from posting any further statements.

[syndrome95]

Im afraid like all experimenters that you will find out that if you ever get close to a 360 degree rotation that you will get to the point where you find that the energy needed to get all the magnets properly aligned to pass and begin the rotation again from zero degrees is just too much and you end up creating an instant breaking point thus stopping the rotation. The only way is to input energy from another source at that point.

[syndrome95]

The missing output can nearly always be traced to the destruction of the elements of the machine its self in the form of friction transfering some the energy into heat. Even the latent energy stored up by the very manufacture out of all its elements of the machine its self. You dont get owt for nowt as they say where I come from.

[TheRickoff]

Where do you come from?

[syndrome95]

Hi Rick, to answer your question. Im from Manchester UK. Im 49. Ive ben involved with electrical engineering / electronics since I was maybe 13 but spent the last 15 years working mainly with computers. I dont have and high level of formal eduction in the realm of physics but I do have lots of experience of building and repairing things.

I admire your determination. Go for it man.

[TheRickoff]

Thanks, and I will go for it. I learn something from everything I do, and that can only make things get better. A few more modifications, and I can envision success achieved. I wish that I had nothing else to do but work on this, but unfortunately that's not the case. I will keep working at it, though, as time will allow.

[syndrome95]

The thing is, the amount of physical energy required to get the magnet into such a position that the line of flux can be distorted ether way; always ends up being equal or more than that energy that is released when the flux finally springs into its happiest new line of flow now the magnets are the new position relative to where they stared from.

[syndrome95]

You can store energy in them and you can transfer energy with them.. But magnetism is not an energy source in its self. When you physically interact, two or more magnets their fields end up being compressed against each other or pulled together along the same path.

[syndrome95]

Hi Rick, I must say I admire your ingenuity and scientific approach to your project but Im afraid that eventually will dawn on you if it hasnt already to the many people watching these videos about self perpetuating machines. What you are playing with when you experiment with magnets is that its the fields of flux they create behave like a spring.

[X00000013]

IMHO, the power stroke (you need to leave the gate) is towards the center axis in a straight line.

[TheRickoff]

Are you suggesing moving the stator carriage inward at the tail end of the south up rotor magnet group? If so, that won't work because the stator needs to move outward at that point to align properly for accelerative attraction as the North rotor magnet group approaches.

[gazzaka]

I would consider flipping the stator bar and having an alternate stator on the other side, like a hinged stator bar.

Also I think you originally said the stator needed hardly any movement?

We seem to have gone from hardly any, to an inch?

Also seems that you are not trying to exactly replicating your original hand movement, where it worked

GL as always

[TheRickoff]

Hi Gazzaka, not quite sure what you mean by "flipping the stator bar." Once rotation is achieved, it does take only a half inch or so of staor movement to maintain it. Actually, in the last experiment of this video the stator is moved only 6/10 of an inch. It self adjusts another 5/8" outward as it encounters the approaching North magnet group. If I lay a short track at the tail end of the North group to move the stator inwards by 5/8", it will self adjust again as the South group nears.

[TheRickoff]

So as you can see, the total overall stator movement from the inner position to the outer position is just under 1+1/4 inches, and less than half of that was mechanical.

I could also work this setup very nicely by hand, as I did with the previous stator arm, but the objective from here on will be to move only by mechanical and magnetic means.