101 East - Indonesian morality debate - Oct 29 2008 part 2

[Kisa8092]

Goods

[ferdifeather]

such a drama, that's why i hate the Indonesian government mostly when i was in Indonesian me and others never obey those ridiculuos rules irrational and against the tolerant which we always learned from school... beter against the corruption and sentenced death to those corruptors and if that happen Indonesia would be powerful like USA cause you can find everything in Indonesia and suck other nations !!

[thejuliez]

plastic chairs.. haha.. part of indo's 'al fresco' culture

[artchitect2008]

In my opinion, even nowadays, Indonesian who live in other countries, they feel ashamed if they admit that they are Indonesian.WHAT ASHAMED!!!!!!! Why Indonesian government and a lot of Indonesian are really lazy to use THEIR BRAIN!!!!!

[masbejog21]

iam proud be indonesia,and i feel today better yesterday,and tomorrow better than today.

[artchitect2008]

I don't understand with Indonesia. Rather than You think about this issue, it's much much much much better You think about HOW YOU BUILD THE GOOD EDUCATION FOR YOUR CITIZEN, HOW TO AGAINST THE CORRUPTION, etc. This UU PP is just like to build Indonesia in one religion based, which is not Pancasila anymore. Why the government of Indonesia is really stupid like this? No wonder that Indonesia just become worst and worst nowadays. Maybe later, nobody will put their respect to Indonesia.

[karelingab]

Indonesia is now the second Malaysia by anti-porn law!

[karelingab]

Ada ancam besar sudah datang terhadap setiap kamu, sebagai warga Indonesia. Di sini undang2x anti-pornografi dan pornoaksi. UU PP adalah terorisme terhadap semua budaya asli Indonesia yang sejati.

[karelingab]

Kita dapat menolong-tolong menarung pada UU PP jadi dapat tidak terjadi negara Indonesia sudah berubah sebagai luar neraka sejati oleh Undang2x Anti-Pornografi dan pornoaksi. UU PP memang kenerakaan sejati ke seluruh Indonesia. Negara Arab adalah plaing negara neraka sejati dan kita tidak mau terjadi negara Indonesia akan sudah negara neraka sejati.

[karelingab]

Pertamaan UU PP, sementara tarungan terhadap korupsi, kemiskinan, kebodohan dan moral seksual tidak pertama! di sini tanda pemerintah Indonesia adalah sudah bodoh dan goblok sekali, besarnya. Mereka mau negara Indonesia sudah mundur kerasnya.

[karelingab]

Undang2x Pornografi dan pornoaksi memang bisa berubah negara Indonesia sebagai neraka sejati, seluruhnya.

[karelingab]

SBY ke neraka! SBY, kau dapat pergi ke neraka, SBY, go to hell, now! Karena UU PP, SBy sudah dibodoh hasilnya negara Indonesia sudah neraka sejati, karena UU PP.

[karelingab]

Karena SBY nge-sign Undang2x PP, kami sangat marah dan benci terhadap dia! Mulai hari ini, kami senang menista dan mendasar terhadap SBY. SBY adalah berbudak dan berbodoh oleh warga yang paling bodoh, warga ini yang bertanggung jawab dukung dan passing UU PP sebagai undang2x sejati.

[karelingab]

Siapa yang menarung pada undang2x pornografi dan pornaski berepresentasi oleh semua sejenis grup masyarakat, termasuk warga umat islam, sama Gus Nur dan isterinya. Sem,entara, siapa yang mendukung berundang-undangan sejati RUU-APP adalah satuh grup aja, tak ada lain, but the radical and narrow-minded evil Muslims only.

[karelingab]

Kita harus menarung pada undang2x ini. Undang2x ini adalah ancam pada negara kamu. Kalau ini sudah undang2x sejati, negara kamu sudah hancurkan oleh warga ini yang paling bodoh di seluruh bumi, selalunya.

[karelingab]

Kalau UU pornografi dan pornoaksi consider it "pornografik", negara Indonesia sudah "pornografik" dan "berpornoaksi', rupanya. Hanya non-Indonesian, sama Araba adalah tidak porno dan pornoaksi di bawah Undang2x ini.

[karelingab]

Wajib sunat adalah lebih berporno dan pornoaksi daripada wanita yang dipakai bikini aja, pakai kurang, seperti skirt pendek dan warga Muslimah yang tidak mengaurat.

[karelingab]

Kamu tahu, warga Muslim, warga bertanggung jawab nge-pass RUU-APP, mau menyunat laki2x mereka. Wajib sunat itu porno anak(child pornography) dan dengan sakit di kontol mereka. Ada kasus jahat ganda.

[karelingab]

Lebih baik melarang wajib sunat bagi laki-laki daripada porno xxx di Indonesia. Di bawah UU APP, wajib sunat bagi laki2x mudanya larangkan besarnya karena di sini lebih berporno atau berpornoaksi daripada wanita yang dipakai bikini aja. Wajib sunat bagi laki2x liahtnya porno anak(chil pornography). Semua mendukung undang2x ini adalah munafik sekali. Seperti tak ada berporno, apa wajib sunat? Wajib sunat adalah berporno represent dalam warga Muslim, sebagai bikini dalam warga non-Muslim Indon.

[brokenhard13]

Ruu nya msh dg0dok dpR. Dan isi dpR bkn org Islam aj. Trus gk mgkn lah mrka mw matiin budaya bngsa sendiri. Niat nya kan bAik mw menyelamatkan anak2 bngsa gnrasi muda dr dkadEnsi m0ral, trus jg mlndungi pRmpuan dr ekpLoitasi. Niat nya bAik knp gk dDkung. Saran dr msyrakat dtrma k0q..

[brokenhard13]

Ruu nya msh dg0dok dpR. Dan isi dpR bkn org Islam aj. Trus gk mgkn lah mrka mw matiin budaya bngsa sendiri. Niat nya kan bAik mw menyelamatkan anak2 bngsa gnrasi muda dr dkadEnsi m0ral, trus jg mlndungi pRmpuan dr ekpLoitasi. Niat nya bAik knp gk dDkung. Saran dr msyrakat dtrma k0q. Kan ada check and pR0fit test nya..

[FlatulenceFox]

I do think this is a power move by the Islamic clerics and hardliners to impose their will on all Indonesians. With the exception of those who search for porn on the internet (which I am certain many of the people who are supporting this new law do) there really isn't much in the way of overt obscenity in Indonesia by any measure.

[uninetgranada]

Beautiful waves you have got over there...

I hate it when the interviewer speaks more than the interviewed themselves.

The issue at question is completely ambiguous. Probably the ones who passed the law are probably the most pervert ones who see pornography where there isn´t any. Society in Spain only needs government intervention in protecting from TV pornography and phone scams (so much really-low-quality porn is pathetic and morally stressful).

[hand15]

The Papuan culture does not see breast as part of pornography. The irony is, with this legislation, they're forced to accept those bare breasted women as immoral and provoke pornography. What will you feel is someday in Papua, they push a legislation saying wearing excessive clothes (just like those wearing Jilbab dan burqa) is an abnormal behavior and must be punished in order to save the culture of Papuan from the corruption of alien culture?

[lebanleban]

Banning pornography, is this a anti- hindu or whatever religoius?

How funny this is!

in my opinion, pornography is everthing that sound humanmind considers 78&&&*&^87. Will you get my point.

One more thing if you are not Indonesian keep you mouth out of this.

[ipunkbali]

It's time for Bali to be an Independent country. Indonesia should not force Balinese to follow the Islamic Law. Fuck .. Aren't there more important issue other than pornography? Indonesians are so narrow minded. I feel so ashamed to be an Indonesian.

Ok, its time to arrest Asmat and Dani tribes in West Papua for their nudity.

[fidlertilen]

funny how porn means evrething in every colture,...

[hand15]

Although the Bill protects traditional Culture that is deemed sensual. The problem still persist. To those whose culture deemed sensual (like Balinese culture), they would not see Bikinis as unappropriate clothes. But the legistlation certainly prohibits the Bikinis because it is not part of traditional culture. The Balinese don;t see bikinis as unappropriate, but with this legislation, Balinese people is forced to accept that Bikinis is unappropriate. Certainly unacceptable!

[indonesiastrongest]

Gue Pribadi setuju aja ... RUU Pornografi di di setujui ... mungkin beberapa wilayah .. merasa keberatan dengan RUU itu, menurut saya sebaiknya RUU itu berlaku tidak di seluruh daerah Indonesia,ataupun mau di berlakukan setidaknya tidak seketat untuk beberapa wilayah tertentu seperti Bali, Manado, papua, dsbgnya.

[mieroth]

DOWN WITH THE LEGISLATION. :(

[gadogado123]

Aduh Indonesia, like there's not enough issues to worry about but the woman's cleavage!