thanks god that the european union finally banned all seal products from canada thease sealers should be clubbed in the head lets see how they like it fuck all you sealers you can all go to hell you fucking goofs
fuck all the people that kill baby seals they all should be hung seal hunters should get a real fucking job oh but wait i forgot there too fucking dumb to do anything else fuck the seal hunt canada should be ashamed
Fuck all that so, that crack whore paris hilton, and other rich social parasites can wear fur coats. THATS A SHAME!!! Maybe some real hunter should go into bat for the seals (no pun intended) Click Click BOOM!!!
I wonder what Sir Paul Macartney makes of all this? He is one of your movements founding fathers after all ..... perhaps we should invite him to submit a comment .....
This isn't Canada's shame, it's Ireland's shame. Some 21 year old girl in Ireland lecturing to the Canadian Govt and gloating over the deaths of some fishermen who died doing a perfectly legal and legitimate job. Shame on you Michelle, and shame on You Tube for giving you the oxygen of publicity. My opinion : you're a nutcase
I've got no problem with people voicing their opposition to the seal hunt, or feeling remorseful about it. I don't happen to agree with them, but everyone's entitled to an opinion. What I have a problem with is posting the photographs of dead human beings on the internet and gloating about it. It's despicable and obscene.
So the author of the video is not responsible for the content if it has a warning ? That the issues mentioned are not to be discussed because of this warning ?
don't remember stating that, i remember stating that it does say the content may be harsh, which i think indicates if you don't like what it says, why bother watching it? if it's despicable...
There's a difference between 'harsh content' and 'totally unacceptable'. Harsh content for me means the scenes from the seal hunt, but lets face it, that's no worse than you would encounter on a trip to the local abattoir. What I find reprehensible is publicising and revelling in the deaths of these people. How are their families supposed to feel about what has been posted? You people need to get a grip ... you are simply undermining you're own arguments ....
if you get this comment 3598294305 times it's b/c yt is playing it up, i'm not for the photo's of the deceased hunters, I'M for the statements about the seals and their treatment, and the point about using the seals for pleasure and money, so keep that 'you people' stuff to yourself thanks.
So who were you talking to then? Me? OK, lets talk .... how about you or Michellle give me an apology for revelling in the sad death of 4 Newfie fishermen....
and ..... you#re point is ??? god, this is getting boring. I'm off, gonna try to find to someone with a brain to argue with ... serious absence of them in this place ....
you're talking about her being a nut because she made a 10 second statement about the people, yet the statement I made was that I was not for the killing of innocent animals which if YOU WATCH THE MAJORITY OF THE VIDEO you'll see that was the point she was trying to make.......... :-|
P.S being glad 4 people are dead is not HALF as bad as bashing innocent animals' brains in, therefore I have every right to be angry and revel in them fishermen's deaths. I don't know how you people can defend something that doesn't even matter i.e me taking the piss out of them fuckers being dead. I'm not hurting anyone/ anything unlike they did. Does your heart not break when you see a mother seal mourn over her dead pup, it's not death by natural causes, the hunt is a disgusting massacre.
Seal mothers give birth to their pups and don't hunt and feed until the pups start molting more than a week later. They leave their pups at this time, on the edge of starvation, never to return.
And adult male seals are way too busy procreating with as many females as possible to care.
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Oh so now none of what i've just said is valid because "you weren't talking to me" ?
Provocative videos get comments and that's just the way it goes. Warnings are not relevant if the content is highly questionable. So that "You shouldn't be watching and commenting because it's harsh" stuff doesn't fly....
So, if I were to read an article in the paper on a controversial subject then I should not send in a letter to the editor relating to the content of this article because I knew the subject was controversial ?
Interesting theory, especially here on Youtube where comments are requested.
You stated that sobranie007 should not have watched the video or commented because it was "harsh" and then contradicted yourself by asking him to watch the whole video to post a comment.
If I said this comment was "harsh", would that stop you from commenting on it ? No, even though it would be hypocritical for you to do so.
ok you've made this statement and I've said my piece, if you keep repeating yourself....and she made the video about the killing of seals, that's the majority point of the video, the poster is upset about something she put in her views, if he doesn't like it why watch it? it states the views are harsh, he doesn't HAVE to watch it.
notice how these so called "sealers" call walking up to 1 month old baby seals and bashing their heads in a "hunt"---what they also try to hide from the general public is that the majority of these "sealers" are common thugs with extensive criminal records!! not too surpriseing huh!!
Exactly. Last time I noticed, hunters give an animal a chance, they don't walk up to pups/ cubs etc and club them to death, there is no "game" in beating a pup's brains in to death...none whatsoever, it's a massacre. Oh but they are "only seals" so it doesn't matter to pro-sealers...so much for fairness and man being the most superior species.
If you think for one second that I would apologise for gloating over them SCUMBAGS' deaths then you have another thing coming, I would rather chop off my left arm ;-)
I don't care what their families think either. Anyone that could possibly "love" these savage "humans" is not a decent person anyway....
My my, you are getting your prissy little knickers in a twist aren't you? Try to chill out a bit michelle, there are more important things in the world than a few harp seals, and you're coming across as a psychopathic terrorist (ya never know who might be watching .... )
Oh, and I'm going on holiday tomorrow for 4 weeks, so just think, you'll be able to post whatever you like about me without any possibility of a rebuke .... won't that be fun? Good luck ... xx
What you on about? You kept leaving comments the last few days that I ignored until so I finally replied just to shut you up, stop trying to act like my thoughts don't matter to you coz they obviously do lol and who wil be watching me? The toothfairy? Give it a rest you big child.
Oh and fuck the fishermen's families, I hope they suffer the same fate as their beloved husbands/ fathers/ sons etc.
The veterinary report you're talking about was organized, edited and published by IFAW in March 2001 and DOES NOT conclude that 42% of the seals were "skinned alive".
They only examined 76 skulls and DID NOT determine or confirm the manner in which they died. They didn't even make a precise estimate on how long it took these seals to die with that damage.
They also viewed 3 years of footage for this report and DID NOT confirm any instances of live skinning.
BTW, the 76 seal skulls they examined were of clubbed seals while the majority of seals in Canada are shot. And the report failed scientific scrutiny because it made certainties of possibilities in regards to the skull fractures.
The EU commissioned EFSA report on all of this can be found by googling :
canucktunes, I've seen the footage myself. Ever see a flipper moving on a live animal whilst being skinned? And the testimonies I put in the vid were only a fraction of what else was documented, ex and current sealers admitted the animals' welfare was not taken into account themselves...the blink reflex test wasn't even required to be adminstered before 2008 therefore why try and defend this savagery?
Post-mortem twitching/reflexes is more pronounced in animals with head trauma.
Haven't you seen chickens twitching after their heads had been chopped off ? Heard about the same effects in cows at slaughter houses ? Humans after being beheaded ?
This is why the scientists hired by IFAW could not determine if the seals were alive or not in the three years of footage they viewed.
In regards to the testimony you were given by IFAW. I actually found the documents from which this information was taken a while back on the DFO website and these were statements from unlicensed poachers, outside of the commercial hunt. They had hunted bluebacks !
And the blinking eye test is superfluous in most cases according to scientists, even IFAW, whose March 2001 report recognized that more than 60% of the seals had their skulls sufficiently fractured.
60%?? Oh so it's okay then? I am not going to waste my time arguing with you, just admit it already, you are a sadistic evil prick who is obsessed with Canada's reputation and also on making a few extra bucks for the "fishermen and their families" no matter WHAT the expense! You're just another sheep......amongst a herd of sheeple....*yawns*
Ersabette, calling a spade a spade is not insulting someone, it's the truth. I'm a fair person and I don't believe all people who "murder" animals are "evil". Not by any means so let it be known that you're not on a peta puppet's vid right now. But of course if you are going to defend something callous no matter what the cost, no matter what an anti can bring to the table, it doesn't matter coz you're "right" by facts and facts alone right? But not heartfelt emotions.....sad.
I do love when people such as yourself pull the psychic card and claim to have this great insight of complete strangers. I suppose then if a person has spent their whole lives blind and by heartfelt emotion believe the sky is green that makes it true? I'd rather argue for what is rather than what is not. Makes much more sense to me.
What you on about? The sky is blue and I am not blind, don't even start with that crap. I am stating the obvious. You = have no heart for defending this blasphemy especially considering it does hardly anything to improve the economy. Yes...shame on you.
"it doesn't matter coz you're "right" by facts and facts alone right? But not heartfelt emotions.....sad." To that blind person who used heartfelt emotion the sky was green now you want to disregard your argument based on emotion for the facts! I'm stating the obvious, you're using anything but.
You aren't arguing. You're just blurting out what you've read on anti-sealing websites. You know nothing of the issue - You just get incensed on cue and when you're caught in ignorance, you try to insult your way out of it.
The EU commissioned report of the EFSA claimed the methods were humane.
The activists have repetitively failed to substantiate their claims and numbers in the scientific community and are using the media to gain undue influence in the EU and Canadian government with emotional conjecture, aggression and bigotry.
canucktunes, it's not my fault you are a heartless "person" now is it? And damn right I will insult anyone who acts in a barbaric manner towards animals for MONEY and GREED. I personally believe everyone who eats meat should hunt for it because I despise factory farms. So don't pull the whole "I'm an animal rights wacko" card out on me....coz it's getting boring. You sadistic "people" whose eyes light up when you see dollar signs are all the same, shallow and callous.
Wow I told you not I am not a wacko and you use that term anyway?
Why defend it then? You're wasting your time and my time. I was hoping you knew someone personally who would participate in the seal hunt this year so I could wish a painful death on them.
Lovely. And you aren't in any way acting like a wacko, huh ? I guess you think a sane person goes around hexing people like some senile old gypsy.
There's no "defending" an industry that has not been tried and convicted in a court of law and the activists have had their independent second opinion with the EFSA, who agreed that this information is insufficient and biased.
All you're doing here is trying to insult any discussion away, to control it.
These activists clearly want to bog down the hunt with procedure to keep themselves relevant and the donations flowing. And they have plenty of oblivious, overemotional minions to keep this non issue alive.
How about compassionate (well adjusted and fair, not just compassionate) people who don't like seeing harm done to creatures who have every right to be here. Is that so hard to understand? I suppose it is if you have no heart....
You guys always claim to be more compassionate when really you're just trying to justify yourselves and think assumptions of cruelty is the way to do it.
If you are unwilling to accept any claims in regards to how humane the methods are from any scientific body, then you are clearly biased.
Pity it wasn't carried out back then even though huh? Your factual statement did nothing to further your pro-sealing cause Ersabette. Infact, it worsened it ;-)
Where's your proof that the blink test wasn't carried out back then - the same source that told you it wasn't implemented until '08? My factual statement didn't worsen my position. Your posting of incorrect information worsened yours.
Everything is not black and white Ersabette. Morals always come before financial gain and anyone who thinks otherwise has a sad existence. Jesus christ stop kissing your sealing friends' arses and give the poor seals a break, yeah?
You don't understand morality if you in any way think conjecture should supersede evidence. And in regards to financial gain, the activists groups have been cashing in this issue for decades. Paul Watson openly admitted this on a 1978 CBC interview with Barbara Frum that can be found here on Youtube. He was actually bashing Greenpeace for it.
canucktunes you keep referring to some activists groups gaining financial from animal lovers such as myself...what makes you so quick to presume I give money to these groups? Can't a girl just have a heart and speak out for animals who can't speak for themselves? Or is that too much for you to comprehend because you only care about yourself and what affects you/ your family etc?
If you aren't donating funds then you're trying to appease your guilt for not being able to contribute to them financially by trying to spread your guilt to other people, in the hopes of these people will give them donations.
You've been led to believe that the only reason people don't buy it is because they're cruel, selfish, etc. And here you are, spewing your anger and hate...
My morals come from the understanding that the harp seal population is already too large. If the hunt is stopped the seals will starve and/or die of disease. What will replace the hunt is a cull to help keep their pop down. Besides perhaps a few meals of seal that the people hired to cull the seals take home nothing else of the seal will be used. So, I would rather see the sealers earning a dollar and the seal actually being utilized than the seals be considered a "pest species" like mice.
Delighted to hear that. Yeah fuck the sadistic fishermen, they got what they deserved....ha...I'm hoping for more of the same this year, the more scum off the planet the better ;-)
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michelst14 2 years ago
thanks god that the european union finally banned all seal products from canada thease sealers should be clubbed in the head lets see how they like it fuck all you sealers you can all go to hell you fucking goofs
hellobrun 2 years ago
fuck all the people that kill baby seals they all should be hung seal hunters should get a real fucking job oh but wait i forgot there too fucking dumb to do anything else fuck the seal hunt canada should be ashamed
hellobrun 2 years ago
Fuck all that so, that crack whore paris hilton, and other rich social parasites can wear fur coats. THATS A SHAME!!! Maybe some real hunter should go into bat for the seals (no pun intended) Click Click BOOM!!!
ElvisGrey 2 years ago
THATS IT BASH THOSE FUCKING WORTHLESS SEALS...I MUST TAKE PART IN THIS ONE DAY...LMFAO!!!!!!
*smash*...*seal crys in agony*...*smash! *lights out! ! ROFL!
NolasDeadBaby 2 years ago
That they are beating them to death. That is cruel. Seals are actually very intelligent.
TheAmbassador9 2 years ago
That is right brother
dudaintright 2 years ago
That is some sick shit.
dudaintright 2 years ago
In what aspect?
xMyMichellex 2 years ago
I wonder what Sir Paul Macartney makes of all this? He is one of your movements founding fathers after all ..... perhaps we should invite him to submit a comment .....
sobranie007 2 years ago
we should all celebrate the 4 pieces of crud that died,although i would have prefered someone had skinned them alive!!
cruepage 2 years ago
wow! i knew sum ppl hunted dem but not on tht scale. holy shit tht is fuckin wrong lik. how cld any1 do tht?? sick. it wld be lik killin ur dog
iluvElishaCuthbert 2 years ago
Fucking disgusting, and i thought the Canadians had a better point of view than the yanks, they died.....fuck em, as the vid said, KARMA!.
angelusmortis1412 3 years ago
This isn't Canada's shame, it's Ireland's shame. Some 21 year old girl in Ireland lecturing to the Canadian Govt and gloating over the deaths of some fishermen who died doing a perfectly legal and legitimate job. Shame on you Michelle, and shame on You Tube for giving you the oxygen of publicity. My opinion : you're a nutcase
sobranie007 3 years ago
how is feeling remorse for innocent animals being bludgeoned make somebody a nutcase? lmfao wow.
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
I've got no problem with people voicing their opposition to the seal hunt, or feeling remorseful about it. I don't happen to agree with them, but everyone's entitled to an opinion. What I have a problem with is posting the photographs of dead human beings on the internet and gloating about it. It's despicable and obscene.
sobranie007 3 years ago
but the user clearly states there's harsh content in the video...so if you don't like the content of the video, why watch??????????????
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
So the author of the video is not responsible for the content if it has a warning ? That the issues mentioned are not to be discussed because of this warning ?
canucktunes 3 years ago
don't remember stating that, i remember stating that it does say the content may be harsh, which i think indicates if you don't like what it says, why bother watching it? if it's despicable...
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
There's a difference between 'harsh content' and 'totally unacceptable'. Harsh content for me means the scenes from the seal hunt, but lets face it, that's no worse than you would encounter on a trip to the local abattoir. What I find reprehensible is publicising and revelling in the deaths of these people. How are their families supposed to feel about what has been posted? You people need to get a grip ... you are simply undermining you're own arguments ....
sobranie007 3 years ago
you're focusing on that, yet i've watched the video and note that she's making more a point to scold the seal hunt as a hole....
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
i'm focusing on the murder of innocent animals, but apparently you missed that in the FIRST comment i left you.
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
if you get this comment 3598294305 times it's b/c yt is playing it up, i'm not for the photo's of the deceased hunters, I'M for the statements about the seals and their treatment, and the point about using the seals for pleasure and money, so keep that 'you people' stuff to yourself thanks.
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
One has to watch it to truly comment on it. And one keeps comments active to receive comments on the video.
canucktunes 3 years ago
I NEVER said she didn't want comments...you're missing the point and i wasn't talking to you...
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
So who were you talking to then? Me? OK, lets talk .... how about you or Michellle give me an apology for revelling in the sad death of 4 Newfie fishermen....
sobranie007 3 years ago
read all the comments i just left you... :-|
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
and ..... you#re point is ??? god, this is getting boring. I'm off, gonna try to find to someone with a brain to argue with ... serious absence of them in this place ....
sobranie007 3 years ago
you're talking about her being a nut because she made a 10 second statement about the people, yet the statement I made was that I was not for the killing of innocent animals which if YOU WATCH THE MAJORITY OF THE VIDEO you'll see that was the point she was trying to make.......... :-|
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
P.S being glad 4 people are dead is not HALF as bad as bashing innocent animals' brains in, therefore I have every right to be angry and revel in them fishermen's deaths. I don't know how you people can defend something that doesn't even matter i.e me taking the piss out of them fuckers being dead. I'm not hurting anyone/ anything unlike they did. Does your heart not break when you see a mother seal mourn over her dead pup, it's not death by natural causes, the hunt is a disgusting massacre.
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
Dramatic but fictional scenario.
Seal mothers give birth to their pups and don't hunt and feed until the pups start molting more than a week later. They leave their pups at this time, on the edge of starvation, never to return.
And adult male seals are way too busy procreating with as many females as possible to care.
canucktunes 3 years ago
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Oh so now none of what i've just said is valid because "you weren't talking to me" ?
Provocative videos get comments and that's just the way it goes. Warnings are not relevant if the content is highly questionable. So that "You shouldn't be watching and commenting because it's harsh" stuff doesn't fly....
canucktunes 3 years ago
if you're going to COMMENT ON THE CONTENT when the USER STATED THE CONTENT WAS HARSH, it's kinda contradictory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
So, if I were to read an article in the paper on a controversial subject then I should not send in a letter to the editor relating to the content of this article because I knew the subject was controversial ?
Interesting theory, especially here on Youtube where comments are requested.
canucktunes 3 years ago
omg you're so annoying, never mind, the point obviously went over your head.
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
You have no valid point to make.
You stated that sobranie007 should not have watched the video or commented because it was "harsh" and then contradicted yourself by asking him to watch the whole video to post a comment.
If I said this comment was "harsh", would that stop you from commenting on it ? No, even though it would be hypocritical for you to do so.
canucktunes 3 years ago
he's not commenting on it, he's WHINING. and yeah there is a point, apparently you didn't get it...
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
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I've read his comments and I wouldn't qualify it as whining. Perhaps you think it's whining because that would be convenient for you.
canucktunes 3 years ago
If I said this comment was "harsh", would that stop you from commenting on it ? No, even though it would be hypocritical for you to do so.
NO b/c you made the comment to me, she didn't make the video for him... :] hahaha.
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
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She had the comments on. If she didn't want comments, she could have turned them off.
canucktunes 3 years ago
ok you've made this statement and I've said my piece, if you keep repeating yourself....and she made the video about the killing of seals, that's the majority point of the video, the poster is upset about something she put in her views, if he doesn't like it why watch it? it states the views are harsh, he doesn't HAVE to watch it.
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
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LOL I keep on repeating myself because you keep on making the same erroneous, ridiculous statement, that you just posted again.
He saw the video, saw that comments were allowed, and commented. Controversial videos get commented on here on Youtube. It's far from unusual here.
canucktunes 3 years ago
and judging her based on a 20 second statement....stop responding to me....
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
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Like she didn't judge anyone ?
If you don't want to discuss the issue, then you can stop posting comments yourself.
canucktunes 3 years ago
BYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
canuck ya know you actually have alot of brains underneath that cold hard exterior. Pity really, you could be such a nicer person.
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
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Says the person that celebrates death and then uses the word Karma.
canucktunes 3 years ago
Word = karma
Action = sadistic animalkiller.
Go figure....
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
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Go suck a dick.
Fight2Exist 3 years ago
Fight2Exist
Thanks for the advice LOL
xMyMichellex 2 years ago
notice how these so called "sealers" call walking up to 1 month old baby seals and bashing their heads in a "hunt"---what they also try to hide from the general public is that the majority of these "sealers" are common thugs with extensive criminal records!! not too surpriseing huh!!
cruepage 3 years ago
Exactly. Last time I noticed, hunters give an animal a chance, they don't walk up to pups/ cubs etc and club them to death, there is no "game" in beating a pup's brains in to death...none whatsoever, it's a massacre. Oh but they are "only seals" so it doesn't matter to pro-sealers...so much for fairness and man being the most superior species.
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
sobranie007
Your opinion has been noted and dismissed LOL
If you think for one second that I would apologise for gloating over them SCUMBAGS' deaths then you have another thing coming, I would rather chop off my left arm ;-)
I don't care what their families think either. Anyone that could possibly "love" these savage "humans" is not a decent person anyway....
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
My my, you are getting your prissy little knickers in a twist aren't you? Try to chill out a bit michelle, there are more important things in the world than a few harp seals, and you're coming across as a psychopathic terrorist (ya never know who might be watching .... )
Oh, and I'm going on holiday tomorrow for 4 weeks, so just think, you'll be able to post whatever you like about me without any possibility of a rebuke .... won't that be fun? Good luck ... xx
sobranie007 3 years ago
sobranie
What you on about? You kept leaving comments the last few days that I ignored until so I finally replied just to shut you up, stop trying to act like my thoughts don't matter to you coz they obviously do lol and who wil be watching me? The toothfairy? Give it a rest you big child.
Oh and fuck the fishermen's families, I hope they suffer the same fate as their beloved husbands/ fathers/ sons etc.
Get it got it good :-)
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
The veterinary report you're talking about was organized, edited and published by IFAW in March 2001 and DOES NOT conclude that 42% of the seals were "skinned alive".
They only examined 76 skulls and DID NOT determine or confirm the manner in which they died. They didn't even make a precise estimate on how long it took these seals to die with that damage.
They also viewed 3 years of footage for this report and DID NOT confirm any instances of live skinning.
You clearly did not read it.
canucktunes 3 years ago
BTW, the 76 seal skulls they examined were of clubbed seals while the majority of seals in Canada are shot. And the report failed scientific scrutiny because it made certainties of possibilities in regards to the skull fractures.
The EU commissioned EFSA report on all of this can be found by googling :
EFSA-Q-2007-118
canucktunes 3 years ago
canucktunes, I've seen the footage myself. Ever see a flipper moving on a live animal whilst being skinned? And the testimonies I put in the vid were only a fraction of what else was documented, ex and current sealers admitted the animals' welfare was not taken into account themselves...the blink reflex test wasn't even required to be adminstered before 2008 therefore why try and defend this savagery?
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
Post-mortem twitching/reflexes is more pronounced in animals with head trauma.
Haven't you seen chickens twitching after their heads had been chopped off ? Heard about the same effects in cows at slaughter houses ? Humans after being beheaded ?
This is why the scientists hired by IFAW could not determine if the seals were alive or not in the three years of footage they viewed.
canucktunes 3 years ago
In regards to the testimony you were given by IFAW. I actually found the documents from which this information was taken a while back on the DFO website and these were statements from unlicensed poachers, outside of the commercial hunt. They had hunted bluebacks !
And the blinking eye test is superfluous in most cases according to scientists, even IFAW, whose March 2001 report recognized that more than 60% of the seals had their skulls sufficiently fractured.
canucktunes 3 years ago
60%?? Oh so it's okay then? I am not going to waste my time arguing with you, just admit it already, you are a sadistic evil prick who is obsessed with Canada's reputation and also on making a few extra bucks for the "fishermen and their families" no matter WHAT the expense! You're just another sheep......amongst a herd of sheeple....*yawns*
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
People usually do resort to personal attacks and insults when they have no information to refute the oppositions claims.
Ersabette 3 years ago
Ersabette, calling a spade a spade is not insulting someone, it's the truth. I'm a fair person and I don't believe all people who "murder" animals are "evil". Not by any means so let it be known that you're not on a peta puppet's vid right now. But of course if you are going to defend something callous no matter what the cost, no matter what an anti can bring to the table, it doesn't matter coz you're "right" by facts and facts alone right? But not heartfelt emotions.....sad.
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
I do love when people such as yourself pull the psychic card and claim to have this great insight of complete strangers. I suppose then if a person has spent their whole lives blind and by heartfelt emotion believe the sky is green that makes it true? I'd rather argue for what is rather than what is not. Makes much more sense to me.
Ersabette 3 years ago
What you on about? The sky is blue and I am not blind, don't even start with that crap. I am stating the obvious. You = have no heart for defending this blasphemy especially considering it does hardly anything to improve the economy. Yes...shame on you.
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
"it doesn't matter coz you're "right" by facts and facts alone right? But not heartfelt emotions.....sad." To that blind person who used heartfelt emotion the sky was green now you want to disregard your argument based on emotion for the facts! I'm stating the obvious, you're using anything but.
Ersabette 3 years ago
You aren't arguing. You're just blurting out what you've read on anti-sealing websites. You know nothing of the issue - You just get incensed on cue and when you're caught in ignorance, you try to insult your way out of it.
The EU commissioned report of the EFSA claimed the methods were humane.
canucktunes 3 years ago
The activists have repetitively failed to substantiate their claims and numbers in the scientific community and are using the media to gain undue influence in the EU and Canadian government with emotional conjecture, aggression and bigotry.
canucktunes 3 years ago
canucktunes, it's not my fault you are a heartless "person" now is it? And damn right I will insult anyone who acts in a barbaric manner towards animals for MONEY and GREED. I personally believe everyone who eats meat should hunt for it because I despise factory farms. So don't pull the whole "I'm an animal rights wacko" card out on me....coz it's getting boring. You sadistic "people" whose eyes light up when you see dollar signs are all the same, shallow and callous.
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
The predictable sanctimonious routine, that "animal rights wackos" use.
BTW, I have no vested interest in the seal hunt whatsoever. I don't even hunt. I'm sorry if that's inconvenient for you.
canucktunes 3 years ago
Wow I told you not I am not a wacko and you use that term anyway?
Why defend it then? You're wasting your time and my time. I was hoping you knew someone personally who would participate in the seal hunt this year so I could wish a painful death on them.
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
Wow, double standard! Wasn't Canucktunes just calling a spade a spade? Calling you a wacko wasn't an insult, it's the truth.
Ersabette 3 years ago
Lovely. And you aren't in any way acting like a wacko, huh ? I guess you think a sane person goes around hexing people like some senile old gypsy.
There's no "defending" an industry that has not been tried and convicted in a court of law and the activists have had their independent second opinion with the EFSA, who agreed that this information is insufficient and biased.
All you're doing here is trying to insult any discussion away, to control it.
Don't pretend to be moral and rational.
canucktunes 3 years ago
Actually, the blink eye reflex test became mandatory in 2003-2004.
Ersabette 3 years ago
These activists clearly want to bog down the hunt with procedure to keep themselves relevant and the donations flowing. And they have plenty of oblivious, overemotional minions to keep this non issue alive.
canucktunes 3 years ago
Overemotional minions?
How about compassionate (well adjusted and fair, not just compassionate) people who don't like seeing harm done to creatures who have every right to be here. Is that so hard to understand? I suppose it is if you have no heart....
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
You guys always claim to be more compassionate when really you're just trying to justify yourselves and think assumptions of cruelty is the way to do it.
If you are unwilling to accept any claims in regards to how humane the methods are from any scientific body, then you are clearly biased.
canucktunes 3 years ago
Pity it wasn't carried out back then even though huh? Your factual statement did nothing to further your pro-sealing cause Ersabette. Infact, it worsened it ;-)
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
Where's your proof that the blink test wasn't carried out back then - the same source that told you it wasn't implemented until '08? My factual statement didn't worsen my position. Your posting of incorrect information worsened yours.
Ersabette 3 years ago
Everything is not black and white Ersabette. Morals always come before financial gain and anyone who thinks otherwise has a sad existence. Jesus christ stop kissing your sealing friends' arses and give the poor seals a break, yeah?
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
You don't understand morality if you in any way think conjecture should supersede evidence. And in regards to financial gain, the activists groups have been cashing in this issue for decades. Paul Watson openly admitted this on a 1978 CBC interview with Barbara Frum that can be found here on Youtube. He was actually bashing Greenpeace for it.
canucktunes 3 years ago
canucktunes you keep referring to some activists groups gaining financial from animal lovers such as myself...what makes you so quick to presume I give money to these groups? Can't a girl just have a heart and speak out for animals who can't speak for themselves? Or is that too much for you to comprehend because you only care about yourself and what affects you/ your family etc?
xMyMichellex 3 years ago
If you aren't donating funds then you're trying to appease your guilt for not being able to contribute to them financially by trying to spread your guilt to other people, in the hopes of these people will give them donations.
You've been led to believe that the only reason people don't buy it is because they're cruel, selfish, etc. And here you are, spewing your anger and hate...
canucktunes 3 years ago
good point. :]
GeorgeStraitJunkiee 3 years ago
My morals come from the understanding that the harp seal population is already too large. If the hunt is stopped the seals will starve and/or die of disease. What will replace the hunt is a cull to help keep their pop down. Besides perhaps a few meals of seal that the people hired to cull the seals take home nothing else of the seal will be used. So, I would rather see the sealers earning a dollar and the seal actually being utilized than the seals be considered a "pest species" like mice.
Ersabette 3 years ago
Ya , I agree with this 100%.
I'm Canadian but I'm totally against Seal Hunting.
If I had known that they died , I would have cheered for their deaths , heh.
throughXfire 3 years ago
Delighted to hear that. Yeah fuck the sadistic fishermen, they got what they deserved....ha...I'm hoping for more of the same this year, the more scum off the planet the better ;-)
xMyMichellex 3 years ago