No Carbon Tax Rally - 09/07/11 Sydney AUSTRALIA - Lord Christopher Monckton (1of3)

[ealamin]

July 26, 2011 “On the Misdiagnosis Of Surface Temperature Feedbacks From Variations In Earth’s Radiant Energy Balance” By Spencer and Braswell Data from NASAshows that when the climate warms,Earth’s atmosphere is apparently more efficient at releasing energy to space than models used to forecast climate change have to “believe.”The result is climate forecasts that are warming substantially faster than the atmosphere, says Dr. Roy Spencer at The University of Alabama in Huntsville.

[yellowkrux]

What about green shift?

[FUCKZIONISM666]

tax the corporates and not the people

[philwarinsky]

@FUCKZIONISM666 That is the current plan, yet who pays for the increase in prices made by the 'corporates'? We do. A tax is not the answer...

[FUCKZIONISM666]

@philwarinsky do you want a solution? invest in solar power

[2wheels88]

Every normal person be aware of the GET UP Trolls hanging on desperately to their green dream.They'll be here fighting you tooth and nail over Climate change but the reality is they don't know if there's warming or cooling and that's why they now call it Climate Change! if the climate did'nt change then I'd be worried but you can't blame some of these young people for being so brainwashed Communist Greenpeace has been working their black magic since the 1980's,S o be gentle with them.

[2wheels88]

Australia will take 73 years to put out as much co2 as India does in one year!!!! Should we really be leading the world on this crock.I say no socialism no world government.Everyone should watch this video - Global Warming Hoax, Planned in 1961

[philwarinsky]

@2wheels88 Link here to said video: watch?v=SvcuylMrkXk

[chessonmyshirt]

Climate change is REAL, stop looking at the fucking cash in pocket and look at history you fucking morons.

[philwarinsky]

@chessonmyshirt Yes climate change is real. No body is denying that. Can you elaborate with out falling on insults?

[chessonmyshirt]

@philwarinsky

Sorry, that was a knee jerk reaction to the crowd after seeing "Lord Christopher Monckton" in the title I assumed (silly me) that it was also a skeptic rally.

As my previous comment said, what do you suggest as an alternate solution in an attempt to reverse/stop global warming?

Money is something that is needed to accomplish goals on a global scale and a tax on big businesses for using co2 seems like a good START, as it creates an opportunity for companies to go green to compete

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt Why don't you educate yourself on some reality and start by watching this - Global Warming Hoax, Planned in 1961

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

I've just watched it.

I'm aware of the banking scheme around the world and as an Australian am a huge Ron Paul supporter for taking down the Central bank, but this video is very biased.

It doesn't look at a single fact regarding global warming, most of the studies being peer reviewed and proves the threat of Global warming is very real if we continue down this path.

Yes mainstream Government will most likely fear monger the people into believing this is a crisis and the Government

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt Do you understand the peer review process of the ipcc? The UN has simply discarded the thousands of climatologist's that did'nt agree with their agenda and kept the 2000 or so that did,and most of them cooked the numbers as you can see in the climategate scandal.The computer models they produce are simply wrong and if you think that they are fighting for the planet you would be very wrong.This is about power and control not the environment.Global governnance is their goal.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

I'm not talking about the IPCC, foolish of you to assume so.

I'm talking about all the accomplished climate scientist and the ones studying who makes papers that have been peer reviewed.

Global governance has always been the Governments goal, long before Climate change was bought to the public's attention, and to dismiss climate change because the Government can cause panic and fear and use it to there advantage does not make climate change not true!

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt My poor little brainwashed and confused friend, Climate is meant to Change.There is nothing wrong with our climate and if their were you and I could do little to effect it.Australia puts out in 73 years the amount of co2 that India does in 1 year,yet you want to lead the world in attacking warming or cooling or what was it now change that's right climate change,make up your mind you can't have it both ways.In the 70s we were heading for an ice age,Yeah Right!!! Wake up!

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

So are so incoherent in your arguments, of course climate is meant to change that is natural in every world but you fail to see that we are speeding up the process and making it worse.

Do we leave it up to a third world country like India to start? or as a developed nation do we try to have some initiative?

You sound brainwashed into believing climate change is some incredible instant force that will cause another Ice age, NO, it is simply our environment deteriorating slowly.

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt Australia's little piss in the bucket will do nothing to change the climate but will wreck our economy and big industry to the point of needing world governance to save our asses,that's their plan.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

No one ever said it will be the soul saver of the climate, it's just some initiative, it's a very small step but at least it's a step.

As far as it ruining our economy, it is entirely dependent on the businesses, whether they take the initiative and invest in green to have competitive prices or outsource, and if they do outsource therefore hurting our economy my question is, why blame the initiative attempt and not the companies?

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

Side question: When the slave trade was being dissembled in the 1800-1900's, would you have started taking shots at the Government at their initiative (when slave trade was a common global practice) by trying to remove the slave trade by saying it's not going to do anything on a global scale and ruin the economy?

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt Look get 20 more years under your belt,your giving me headache kid.Slaves have nothing to do with it so forget your side question.I've got my own side question what good is a healthy environment if there is no one to enjoy it? or if we are all enslaved in the worse dictatorship ever seen on earth,you'll be able to enjoy your nice weather from your little cell.Do you understand that these Elites want you dead they're already poisining you with silico flourides and chemtrails etc.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

Chemtrails haven't really been spotted yet in Australia neither has Silicofluorides been found in water samples so I'm safe, for now.

Do you think that they are not going to be able to achieve a global dictatorship without Global warming? and no they don't want to kill, they want to enslave you, they are not brutes of the 16th century, they will not go on a massacre, merely trying to achieve population control through sterilization.

Don't cross the fine line between fact and fiction

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt What are you talking about? the flouride in your drinking water is'nt calcium flouride it's sillico flouride from the fertiliser and aluminium smelting industries,they chemtrail over our area every few days and i'm sure they do it near you to just look up the videos on the subject in Australia.You need to read the UN Agenda 21 depopulation documents and have a look at the Georgia guidstones,they want to reduce population massively,Your young and smart but not experienced,thats ok

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

When did I ever say calcium flouride? I clearly said "Silicofluorides", it's one word by the way.

No, chemtrails are yet to be experienced on regular intervals such as America, they have been spotted a few times.

I don't think you realize how much we agree on, I understand 'they' want to lower the population and I understand infertility rates are going up, our only disagreement is you believe Climate change is completely made up and I think it is partly true.

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt It's actually sillicoflourisic acid but hey this isn't a spelling forum anyhow I do believe there is some change in the weather pattern's I don't think humans are the cause (very little) and I believe the planet has just gone through a very unusual stable period of climate for the last ten thousand yrs,apart from that the planets temps have been much higher in the past and so have the co2 levels.I would like to beat this NWO which is the main threat to humanity right now.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

Do you really think we can beat them?

I believe for us to do anything we have to put an end to the central banking system.

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt Now you're asking the right question's thanks for seeing past the massive distraction of climate change.Yes I think we can as a whole but more people have to be hurt in the hip pocket unfortunately before they wake up and start investigating for themselves,once we have even 5% of the world population awake and more importantly active,then they will be defeated.The central banking system is a good way to educate people on fiat currency and other realities of that system.Godluck!

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

Haha but may I point out I have been asking these questions whilst believing in climate change.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

What does age have to do with knowledge?

The side question was a off-topic question.

You sir, sound like a senile man who's obsessed that the entire world is out to get YOU. As much as I am convinced of a global leadership plan through my own research, you cross the line when you say climate change is a make belief conspiracy with no evidence to it.

To reiterate, yes the Government is blowing it out of proportion for control, but climate change is real, just not to that extent.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

Whether or not the Government is attempting to put a spin on Climate change to help their agenda the fact is climate change is real, maybe not to the proportions the Government is saying but it is foolish to believe the Earth can keep up with our rate of production.

Do not persecute the theory, persecute the people trying to blow it out of proportion.

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt You again,Climate change is real you say,Would that be climate warming or cooling? I think you should leave these matters to people that know something about it and go back to your Runescape!!! ok.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

And there we have it, you can no longer defend your theory so you personally attack me on a video I uploaded over 4 years ago.

I was never attacking you, I acknowledge the Government wants global control, I acknowledge that they are using climate change to there advantage but instead of attacking the Government you attack the theory, supposedly the theory dies does that stop the Government from continuing with there agenda?

Climate change = warmer summers and cooler winters.

[2wheels88]

@chesson It's not a theory and I could defend the truth all day long.The problem is that you understand about global governance but fail to admit that they (the Elite) have hijacked the green movement to use as a vehicle for global control so we must stop them first before doing anything about any possible climate change.I disagree with you because I believe that the planet is co2 starved at the moment and a tax on breathing is not the way to go.Also our coal plants are very clean operating now.

[chessonmyshirt]

@2wheels88

It's definitely a theory.

A theory is simply the most elaborate form of consistent scientific knowledge not yet disproved by experiment.

Now you say they've hijacked the green movement when your original argument was they created the green movement for global control (at least according to the video you linked me).

I fail to see what we are arguing about now, I was not arguing that the Government isn't using this to there advantage I was simply arguing that climate change is real.

[2wheels88]

@chessonmyshirt Well that's because you don't read things that discredit your theory because all the data from the satelites show the planet not heating but seeing you like computer games I understand why you would rather stick to the fake computer modelling! just about all the land thermometer stations they use are misplaced near heat sources such as airconditioning exteriors and so impossible to get correct readings but strategically placed for a global warming result.Let's agree to disagree.

[andyz0007]

@2wheels88 . By the way, yes they may be old but they have seen a lot of fuck'in idiots come and go in their time, including ones predicting global cooling in the 1970s..

[chessonmyshirt]

@chessonmyshirt CONT 1:

therefore needs more power to control it, but that doesn't mean the threat isn't real it just means the Government is manipulating the threat for personal gain.

UN powers will not solve this 'crisis' but only us as humans can, to change our methods of production and consumption into a more renewable cleaner source.

The threat is real, the Government will take advantage of the threat.

I suggest you read some peer reviewed scientific studies and not be based on a video.

[chessonmyshirt]

Anyone else notice that the majority of people are elderly?

Do you guys simply not believe in Global warming or are suggesting that the tax is the wrong way to combat Global warming?

If you do not believe then it has become quite obvious you simply don't care as you wont see the affect in your lifetime and what to keep your monies.

[philwarinsky]

@chessonmyshirt We are suggesting the tax is the wrong way to combat the issue of climate change. And for the record the globe is not warming. ;)



[chessonmyshirt]

@philwarinsky

So why is "Lord Christopher Monckton" in the title, he is a climate skeptic?

In my opinion the globe isn't warming in the literal sense but the extremes are getting worse, summers are hotter and winters are colder, the earth is not infinite in its resources and at an ever increasing rate of production I can't see how the earths natural resources which take years to form could ever keep up.

What does your group suggest as a solution instead?

[andyz0007]

@chessonmyshirt Are you a total idiot the world hasn't been warming for at least 10 years, and when it has it has been within normal fluctuations, YES CO2 PPM doesn't influence fluctuations to any significant extent....fuck are you stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!

[andyz0007]

Respond to this video... By the way, yes they may be old but they have seen a lot of fuck'in idiots come and go in their time, including ones predicting global cooling in the 1970s..

[chessonmyshirt]

@andyz0007

I don't know if this might be a shock to you but here I go...

SCIENCE HAS BEEN WRONG IN THE PAST, AND SCIENCE IS AN EVER CHANGING ORGANISM.

Did they also see the 'moronic' cartographer who mapped out the world as flat therefore disregarding every cartographer as false?

[andyz0007]

@chessonmyshirt Right on...exactly...you hit the nail on the head.....the science is not settled, science is skepticism...wow...its like baby steps is it not...you getting closer to ripping the veil from your eyes

[chessonmyshirt]

@andyz0007

How is science skeptic? Science is there to remove skepticism so we have answers (keeping in mind right now science can't answer everything and isn't always right).

It seems everyone on youtube is mixing up Government climate change propaganda and authentic climate change studies and just putting the blame on climate change all together.

[horodriccube]

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[philwarinsky]

GetUp members - do us a favour and lable yourselves as such so we can take your comments in context. :P

[Lookup2Wakeup]

IT'S a SCAM!!

[USBbuttplug]

I wonder how Coles feels about this? I can't take a protest seriously when the supporters appropriate one of the worst jingles this country has ever heard, nor can I take someone who's [self-proclaimed] title is Lord seriously. The best he gets from me is 'Chris Big-eyes'.

[euromellows]

@USBbuttplug Lol, the song sucks. But Lord Monckton is entitled to be called Lord as he is a peer of the UK and a Viscount. A Baron and above is entitled to Lord (Viscount is higher then Baron). You don't have to sit in the House of Lords to be a lord.

[atomitron]

Nice work Phil!

[80bigbadwolf]

Average age of the crowd looks to be about 70.

[philwarinsky]

@80bigbadwolf The oldies are the most passionate (perhaps because they will be hit hardest by the tax) and were there early to get good views. Most of the crowd would have been bout 50 not 70. :)

[cranyonrye]

@philwarinsky no the oldies are first out because they have seen it all before, they know the road they are taking us down, how hard fought for rights and liberties are disappearing. Wake up to yourself and show some respect

[philwarinsky]

@cranyonrye I have the highest respect for the 'oldies'. You have misread my post. Or I miss wrote it...

[PilligaPrincess]

Silly question - where's Parts 2 and 3?

[PilligaPrincess]

Why would Prince Philip be involved with GetUp?

[Zonzo777]

I am so over this Global Warming, Climate Change SCAM that this UNDEMOCRATIC Government is pushing through.

Carbon Dioxide is essential to life and is NOT A POLLUTANT.

If they think they can get away with it they are mistaken, there is enough of us out here who know the truth and "they"* will not be able to stop this from spreading.

*They includes the likes GETUP who are funded from elites like George Soros, WWF - Prince Philip, Optimum Population Trust, etc,etc to spread LIES.