@Minifeki cuzz ur shooting directly for the legs..first hit him with ur shoulders right into his ribcage thn when he gets off balanced or stunned wrap ur arms around his hips...not exactly his legs cuzz on the street its to risky..if he moves his legs back he'll put his bodyweight on u and press u down..so wrap it around andu can either make him fall or if u got the power thn lift him up and smack him on the ground..ppl say bodybuilders cant fight well this is exactly what powerhouses do ;)
Or if they're 3x bigger than you they put you in a head lock fall back on purpose, and you might as well tap out. But it does work on the inexperienced
@drunkonlove actually if you get(your hips/flank) low enough and drive with your legs...you can lift a guy TWICE your size pretty easily....if he doesn't sprawl of course.
that's why its a quick power takedown...your opponent is overwhelmed and his being bigger will mean shit....he'll still be put on his back by this move.
taller, bigger people have a higher center of gravity and are easier to leverage a takedown on.
Sometimes expert village stuff is a little remedial, but this is really practical. As far as the judo comments go, it's harder to pull off without Gi or when people are punching you. Hence why UFC is a lot of singles & doubles!
Actuly this is very bad because if someone does judo (like me) and does that to me i could just grab you and trow you right over me but this techniqeu is good for everyday people that donot do judo
@IMA1995 Yeah you have right. Aikido,Judo and Gracie Brazilian Jiu Jitsu are hard to deal with grabs and takedowns. It's very difficult to do something like this to a person who is skilled in martial arts like the 3 i refered! But for everyday people it's ok . I am trying now Krav Maga. I think it's very good for the street self defense.!!!
when your doing this, KEEP YOUR HANDS UP WHEN YOURE SHOOTING! If you don't keep your hands up you'll get punched on the chin and get effed up.. Also if you don't keep your back straight and head straight, they can push you down as youre going in.
Yeah I wonder what the best martial art discipline is for prison fights. I would guess it would be mma or krav maga, something that involves a lot of knife defense for sure.
I very much like this video and idea,since I teach this technique and several other variants--including the full double leg lunge without planting your knee on the concrete--as street effective double legs.Judo,Upgraded Kenpo (ATACX KENPO) and G-R also provides a huge variety of street effective slams and takedowns which don't put the defender at undue risk.These are my foundational disciplines for grappling in the clinch throws,takedowns,displacements,etc.
Good stuff! Kept it simple might just suggest a jab or eye poke ( or anything fast 2 the face) 2 stun the opponent, other then that excellent keep it up. P.s. Ptrog u don't put ur head in the centre cuz it'll hurt ur neck :)
Great takedown, what about placing you head into his midsection intead? would that place you into anymore risk? I think most peoples reaction would be to wrap their arm around the persons head if its to the side. Unless the initial strike with your shoulder has him throw his hands forward. Thanks
yeah, i agree masterblasterkd (awsome name btw) but timing and teqnique requires practice as does recognising when do use this and getting the confidence.
besides, im kinda a skinny guy so if i tried this on a heavy, bulky thug ill look like an idiot so i need to bulk up to even attempt this
actually you dont need strength just technique. and you wont get caught w. ith a guillitine in you put your forhead in their chest or stomach. been doin it for years..it works
for something like this to be anywhere near successful youd have to have a major weight or strength advantage... otherwise you not gunna drive through and you're gunna catch a guillitine
daaaaammmmnn! that's friggin cool! I'm gonna use that in my next fight lol thanks for postin this guys. expertvillage has really helped me in MMA training. thank you!
@suarneduj ru serious tlkin abt underestimating a kick there. dude wt is rong wt u??? its not about underestimating the kick. u know it - if u gt hit there thats it - !!!
a lighter bloke may want to tackle a lot lower. go for their legs deal. and ye here in the uk someone cud brake into your house beat the living crap out of you and you are expected to take it and offer them a cupa lol. plain wrong.
nice vid. a basic and powerfull takedown:) but i have one thing on my mind tho.. if someone tries to punch u i dont think u care if u scrape youre knees and elbows^^ but i would prefer to perform this move anyday XD Peace
There's legal issues with this one too. If you do that to someone trying to punch you and he smashes his head on the sidewalk or a fire hydrant or random piece of junk you could get sent to prison for man slaughter or sued for making the guy an invalid and lose everything you own.
Actually, to be accurate, "if you do that [double leg takedown] to someone trying to punch you" and he injures his head, and he sues you or you are tried in criminal court, you could raise the privilege of self defense and avoid liability and punishment, if your conduct was reasonablely necessary to defend yourself.
Manslaughter would only apply if the person died and still the privilege of self-d would apply.
For self-d privilege to apply don't be the initial aggressor.
Depending on where you are. In some countries you could be held accountable just for being there. In the US, some states will hold you liable for injuries even in self defense. There was a case where a man saved his mother's life in her home and gave the attacker brain damage, the defending man went to prison. In another case a man cut himself breaking into a home and won a lawsuit against the home owners. It all depends on location. Simply ducking and firing a hook is a safer option legally.
You still have to report the incident. You kill the guy and never say anything about it, who's going to believe you in court? They're going to try to prove murder 2 at the very least, because they have 1 corpse and the man responsible fled the scene and never reported the incident. Here in the States you can get sued by just about anyone for any reason, its not like the Chuck Norris/Steven Seagal movies where they beat the hell out of all the bad guys and everyone loves them for it.
But if you hook someone cleanly and knock them out they could fall the wrong way and hit their head with fatal consequences also.
I agree with your point though, it seem sometimes that thugs have all the rights. UK here.
For me I will only use physical force if I have absolutely no other option...
In that instance the words I read in a Geoff Thompson book (not sure if it's his or if he in turn was quoting )rings true to me "better to be judged by 12 men than carried by 6"
I've heard that quote a lot of places, and I agree. I'll talk my way out of it if I can, if not then I'll use the maximum legally acceptable means.
So if he's throwing punches, I'm not going to go much further myself. Now if he was swinging a crowbar at me I might do this, but I'd probably just poke him in the eye and get the hell out of there. You win the fight if you go home alive is how I look at it, the longer I beat on him the more time he has to turn the tables.
ur right that if you just simply poke him in the eyes, and if u do that there is 50% that he will hit you wiht that crowbar and if u do the Double Leg Standing Takedown there is only around 35% that he will get you and if u do it really fast there is only 5%.
Tbh I wouldn't be inclined to use this in the instance of an attacker brandishing a crowbar (or similar weapon) thinking about where the hands would have to be.
I'd instinctively want some coverage against a headblow.
Agreed, would definently use my striking arm to shield my head as well against a blunt object. My outlook is my counter to an empty hand strike should be fully functional against comparative armed strikes as well. I counter a straight punch the same way I counter a high blade thrust for example.
I wouldn't stay still while eye gouging, if the shot were coming in to my left side for example I'd eye gouge while moving right and forward. The object would probably still hit me but with diminished impact and in a non vital area.
Yes I agree, bravado works great in the movies but in the real world with the possibility of consequences (legal and otherwise) a physical fight is something to be avoided at all costs. One fight can change the course of a persons life.
Of course there may be no option to evade in which case we do what we must but always as a last resort never as the first option.
@jkd4life1 It is pretty sad that you can't really defend yourself on the street without getting in trouble these days. When I was in high school, all the bullies could get away with anything, but when the awkward kid actually got the balls to stand up for himself, HE'S the one (only one) to get in trouble for it.
@jkd4life1 All of that is correct except for the "initial aggressor" part. Under self defense you are actually allowed to take the first strike or to "pre-empt" an attack if you feel that you are threatened or will come under attack from someone.
yeh thing is that in a real fight if u did that the naural instinct for the one being dumped would be to hold on to the guy doing the tackle so u might need to lift higher and go down with him which adds alot more force !!!!
well the thing is it usually stuns the person coz they r often thinking im gonna hit this guy i wanna hurt him i wanna knock him out or sum big shot adrenaline spur of the moment thing lyk that so its very quick n they r on theyr arse b4 they kno it
does it work on a much heavier opponent
eddr98 2 days ago
i tried this and i got kicked with a knee to the face
Minifeki 3 weeks ago
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@Minifeki cuzz ur shooting directly for the legs..first hit him with ur shoulders right into his ribcage thn when he gets off balanced or stunned wrap ur arms around his hips...not exactly his legs cuzz on the street its to risky..if he moves his legs back he'll put his bodyweight on u and press u down..so wrap it around andu can either make him fall or if u got the power thn lift him up and smack him on the ground..ppl say bodybuilders cant fight well this is exactly what powerhouses do ;)
daredevilhaq 2 weeks ago in playlist Single/Double leg takedowns
Or if they're 3x bigger than you they put you in a head lock fall back on purpose, and you might as well tap out. But it does work on the inexperienced
EmceeKizzle 1 month ago
@EmceeKizzle If you headlock someone you might as well be saying "please armbar me" no matter how big or small you are
elangotango1 1 month ago
This is with the assumption I guess that the opponent is same size or smaller. I wouldn't call this high percentage.
drunkonlove 2 months ago
@drunkonlove actually if you get(your hips/flank) low enough and drive with your legs...you can lift a guy TWICE your size pretty easily....if he doesn't sprawl of course.
that's why its a quick power takedown...your opponent is overwhelmed and his being bigger will mean shit....he'll still be put on his back by this move.
taller, bigger people have a higher center of gravity and are easier to leverage a takedown on.
this should work....if he doesn't sprawl.
chrisgrinhard 2 months ago
Sometimes expert village stuff is a little remedial, but this is really practical. As far as the judo comments go, it's harder to pull off without Gi or when people are punching you. Hence why UFC is a lot of singles & doubles!
0713mas 3 months ago
this takedown is a good start, but fights never go as planned. you should show a couple of alternatives.
graciefighter79 8 months ago
Actuly this is very bad because if someone does judo (like me) and does that to me i could just grab you and trow you right over me but this techniqeu is good for everyday people that donot do judo
IMA1995 10 months ago
@IMA1995 well yeah but in this scenario, the person is punching so he won't have time to do the judo move you're talking about.
jonsabbagh92 7 months ago
@IMA1995 Yeah you have right. Aikido,Judo and Gracie Brazilian Jiu Jitsu are hard to deal with grabs and takedowns. It's very difficult to do something like this to a person who is skilled in martial arts like the 3 i refered! But for everyday people it's ok . I am trying now Krav Maga. I think it's very good for the street self defense.!!!
BillyLo1995 3 months ago
when your doing this, KEEP YOUR HANDS UP WHEN YOURE SHOOTING! If you don't keep your hands up you'll get punched on the chin and get effed up.. Also if you don't keep your back straight and head straight, they can push you down as youre going in.
IPosidenI 10 months ago
but what if tht person tht ur taking down is like kinda chubby
Chocogirl221 11 months ago
Good move. One improvement is to keep grabing the legs when he´s down and stomp the his groin with your right foot... is simple and "game over".
etorelly 11 months ago 4
@G1NN6ER Then you should have done it faster...
Ihazdahmoniez 1 year ago
Red2187 MMA is not a martial art. But I say Krav maga or Muay Thai. BJJ would just get you kicked in the head by your opponents cell partner.. Lol
NinjaWarriorDude 1 year ago
Yeah I wonder what the best martial art discipline is for prison fights. I would guess it would be mma or krav maga, something that involves a lot of knife defense for sure.
red2187 1 year ago
I very much like this video and idea,since I teach this technique and several other variants--including the full double leg lunge without planting your knee on the concrete--as street effective double legs.Judo,Upgraded Kenpo (ATACX KENPO) and G-R also provides a huge variety of street effective slams and takedowns which don't put the defender at undue risk.These are my foundational disciplines for grappling in the clinch throws,takedowns,displacements,etc.
ATACXGYM 1 year ago
owned
imkindofcanadian9 1 year ago
but what if they grab your head on their way down? then what?
mel2thegibson 1 year ago
u cant just fucking teach someone a double leg in one youtube video...sorry years of practice for a clean double leg
sfatpaintballer 1 year ago
or get on top of him and start smashin his face in
punkrocker828 1 year ago
holy crap
prodijames 1 year ago
Good stuff! Kept it simple might just suggest a jab or eye poke ( or anything fast 2 the face) 2 stun the opponent, other then that excellent keep it up. P.s. Ptrog u don't put ur head in the centre cuz it'll hurt ur neck :)
Ottepeg89 1 year ago
Great takedown, what about placing you head into his midsection intead? would that place you into anymore risk? I think most peoples reaction would be to wrap their arm around the persons head if its to the side. Unless the initial strike with your shoulder has him throw his hands forward. Thanks
ptrodrigu 1 year ago
armbar awesome
havoc412 1 year ago
this bad ass takedown
reporter 1 year ago
Good! Only note: I prefer variation ending in cross side
ParkFight 1 year ago
stupid dove commercial. I'll never buy your product for that! O_o
OregonChronicles 1 year ago 5
well presented, and right to the point.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 2 years ago
you will need alot of strength and practice to do this. also you need to be in a proper fight to use this, it could easily kill sumone
Theonefrompluto619 2 years ago
Strength and practice, yes, but it is still based on leverage, timing, and technique. Anyone can do this.
btw, this is one of the first good vids i've seen on expertvillage.
masterblastertkd 2 years ago
yeah, i agree masterblasterkd (awsome name btw) but timing and teqnique requires practice as does recognising when do use this and getting the confidence.
besides, im kinda a skinny guy so if i tried this on a heavy, bulky thug ill look like an idiot so i need to bulk up to even attempt this
Theonefrompluto619 2 years ago
actually you dont need strength just technique. and you wont get caught w. ith a guillitine in you put your forhead in their chest or stomach. been doin it for years..it works
Jthom2k8 2 years ago
for something like this to be anywhere near successful youd have to have a major weight or strength advantage... otherwise you not gunna drive through and you're gunna catch a guillitine
sumstonedguy 2 years ago
daaaaammmmnn! that's friggin cool! I'm gonna use that in my next fight lol thanks for postin this guys. expertvillage has really helped me in MMA training. thank you!
yousuckers1 2 years ago 4
your retarded why by a gun then by a silencer 2 hide noise when you can do a easy taking down like this and run or fight back
deathclawkilla 2 years ago
kiking ina nyo
suaveno 2 years ago
puke mo!!!!
joeladobes 2 years ago
"Never underestimate a kick in the balls"-Bas Rutten
suarneduj 2 years ago 88
@suarneduj As a kenpo man among other disciplines,I truly believe in that idea
ATACXGYM 1 year ago
@suarneduj ru serious tlkin abt underestimating a kick there. dude wt is rong wt u??? its not about underestimating the kick. u know it - if u gt hit there thats it - !!!
mysterio980 2 months ago
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for a moment there at 1:08 i thought they were gonna break out and have some passionate sex lol
snigglesthedestroyer 2 years ago
fag
THEPIELORD42 2 years ago
Ballkicks rulez. Everything else = Okay to know.
Drogba2108 2 years ago
fuck if sumone broke in my home i would bite a chunk out of his neck
rockinrob1983 2 years ago 7
yeah thats not considered self defences till get prison time lol
jimmy97844 2 years ago
If someone breaks into your home, you can kill them.
shihonage 2 years ago
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TransAmFSAS1 2 years ago
fuck, if someone broke into my house i would shoot them in the head with a 38 stub-nose...
pooooy 2 years ago
kick him in the balls = ultimate move
Konvict10000 2 years ago 5
a lighter bloke may want to tackle a lot lower. go for their legs deal. and ye here in the uk someone cud brake into your house beat the living crap out of you and you are expected to take it and offer them a cupa lol. plain wrong.
nellistthetank 2 years ago 3
i know how you feel, its the same in canada you can't harm them ANY more than they harm you
AbsoluteMetal91 2 years ago
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In America we can shoot em :) and hopefully not get any jail time but then again its not fool proof it is possible to get some
joehispanic 2 years ago
light weights cant do this move.. can they ?
XiaoNoodles 2 years ago
nice vid. a basic and powerfull takedown:) but i have one thing on my mind tho.. if someone tries to punch u i dont think u care if u scrape youre knees and elbows^^ but i would prefer to perform this move anyday XD Peace
sebbe302 3 years ago
i had to watch that double in the beginning like 10 times
it was awesome
Danzo7296 3 years ago
There's legal issues with this one too. If you do that to someone trying to punch you and he smashes his head on the sidewalk or a fire hydrant or random piece of junk you could get sent to prison for man slaughter or sued for making the guy an invalid and lose everything you own.
sigmacombatsystems 3 years ago
Actually, to be accurate, "if you do that [double leg takedown] to someone trying to punch you" and he injures his head, and he sues you or you are tried in criminal court, you could raise the privilege of self defense and avoid liability and punishment, if your conduct was reasonablely necessary to defend yourself.
Manslaughter would only apply if the person died and still the privilege of self-d would apply.
For self-d privilege to apply don't be the initial aggressor.
jkd4life1 3 years ago 24
Depending on where you are. In some countries you could be held accountable just for being there. In the US, some states will hold you liable for injuries even in self defense. There was a case where a man saved his mother's life in her home and gave the attacker brain damage, the defending man went to prison. In another case a man cut himself breaking into a home and won a lawsuit against the home owners. It all depends on location. Simply ducking and firing a hook is a safer option legally.
sigmacombatsystems 3 years ago
if you take someone down in self defense and break their skull why would you wait around for the cops? he made his choice
darkblaze06 3 years ago 2
You still have to report the incident. You kill the guy and never say anything about it, who's going to believe you in court? They're going to try to prove murder 2 at the very least, because they have 1 corpse and the man responsible fled the scene and never reported the incident. Here in the States you can get sued by just about anyone for any reason, its not like the Chuck Norris/Steven Seagal movies where they beat the hell out of all the bad guys and everyone loves them for it.
sigmacombatsystems 3 years ago
But if you hook someone cleanly and knock them out they could fall the wrong way and hit their head with fatal consequences also.
I agree with your point though, it seem sometimes that thugs have all the rights. UK here.
For me I will only use physical force if I have absolutely no other option...
In that instance the words I read in a Geoff Thompson book (not sure if it's his or if he in turn was quoting )rings true to me "better to be judged by 12 men than carried by 6"
Masquevideo 2 years ago
I've heard that quote a lot of places, and I agree. I'll talk my way out of it if I can, if not then I'll use the maximum legally acceptable means.
So if he's throwing punches, I'm not going to go much further myself. Now if he was swinging a crowbar at me I might do this, but I'd probably just poke him in the eye and get the hell out of there. You win the fight if you go home alive is how I look at it, the longer I beat on him the more time he has to turn the tables.
sigmacombatsystems 2 years ago
ur right that if you just simply poke him in the eyes, and if u do that there is 50% that he will hit you wiht that crowbar and if u do the Double Leg Standing Takedown there is only around 35% that he will get you and if u do it really fast there is only 5%.
vovka444 2 years ago
Tbh I wouldn't be inclined to use this in the instance of an attacker brandishing a crowbar (or similar weapon) thinking about where the hands would have to be.
I'd instinctively want some coverage against a headblow.
Masquevideo 2 years ago
Agreed, would definently use my striking arm to shield my head as well against a blunt object. My outlook is my counter to an empty hand strike should be fully functional against comparative armed strikes as well. I counter a straight punch the same way I counter a high blade thrust for example.
sigmacombatsystems 2 years ago
I wouldn't stay still while eye gouging, if the shot were coming in to my left side for example I'd eye gouge while moving right and forward. The object would probably still hit me but with diminished impact and in a non vital area.
sigmacombatsystems 2 years ago
Yes I agree, bravado works great in the movies but in the real world with the possibility of consequences (legal and otherwise) a physical fight is something to be avoided at all costs. One fight can change the course of a persons life.
Of course there may be no option to evade in which case we do what we must but always as a last resort never as the first option.
Masquevideo 2 years ago
Definently, there's not nearly enough material readily available on de-escalation and proper communication.
sigmacombatsystems 2 years ago
@jkd4life1 isnt it called agrivated assault?
sosuperreal 1 year ago
@jkd4life1 It is pretty sad that you can't really defend yourself on the street without getting in trouble these days. When I was in high school, all the bullies could get away with anything, but when the awkward kid actually got the balls to stand up for himself, HE'S the one (only one) to get in trouble for it.
sonne5 1 year ago
@jkd4life1 All of that is correct except for the "initial aggressor" part. Under self defense you are actually allowed to take the first strike or to "pre-empt" an attack if you feel that you are threatened or will come under attack from someone.
jamesbigmac75 9 months ago
@jkd4life1 is Australia they still categorise self defence into a 'reasonable amount of force' which is very subjective in our courts unfortunately.
ads861 9 months ago
thanks for the videos guys good moves
twyztted 3 years ago
Nice clip..
tadorjee 3 years ago
sweet
twyztted 3 years ago
to non wrestlers he saying after he did the double he got side control and started to ground and pound (mma translation) lol
geneticman13 3 years ago 3
yeh thing is that in a real fight if u did that the naural instinct for the one being dumped would be to hold on to the guy doing the tackle so u might need to lift higher and go down with him which adds alot more force !!!!
cazza4343 3 years ago 3
well the thing is it usually stuns the person coz they r often thinking im gonna hit this guy i wanna hurt him i wanna knock him out or sum big shot adrenaline spur of the moment thing lyk that so its very quick n they r on theyr arse b4 they kno it
crip4forml 3 years ago 2
dude thx so much because i got this kid at school whos messin w/ me and wants to kick my ass and i had no clue how to tackle him until now
imperfection32 3 years ago
You better know how to finish it up on the ground with gracie jiu jitsu....
DarkBeam 3 years ago
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sigmacombatsystems 3 years ago
"almost as though i will tackle something"
what a dumb ass this is a dump tackle pure n simple.
expert village my ass
joker23121991 3 years ago
he said its a dump tackle retard
chewytorch2 3 years ago