I watched this series with my father back in the 70s when I was a little boy and was mesmerized by it. Most of my dads friends were WWII vets. My uncle drove landing craft at Normandy. My grandfather was at Pearl Harbor, and my grandmother, mother, and aunt, were living on Ford Island until one month before it was hit, at which time they had moved to Maui. And my wife is Japanese. That being said, WWII has always be very real to me. Anyway, thanks a lot "damoosebelly", you da man!!!!
Strategic bombing is foremost a battle of Attrition. Area bombing is ineffective and only hardens and infuriates many people who were formerly apathetic. Bombing, when focussed on targets like radar stations, oil refineries and power stations can greatly interfere with military production. Targetting civilians may make your own people happy that "revenge" has been meted out but killing random civilians does little to "win the war". Nightime area bombing is a moral disgrace AND ineffective.
@randy95023 The fire bombing of Tokyo was pretty effective. Moral? No. Effective? Yes. The men who did this knew it was not morally right, but there isn't much in war that is.
@randy95023 hilter invented the v-2 which killed 1000s of civilians...he also killed millions of the jewish civilians so i think wiping some german bastards out was justified dont u think.!!!
In the late years of WWI airforce theorists studied the strategic use of gas. Dropping gas rather than high explosive could potentially eliminate a city.
Millions dead in one night, with no need for pin-point accuracy.
International conventions on the use of gas sprang from this bilateral fear.
It is illuminating that similar resctrictions have not been placed on nuclear platforms. Just this month, Apr. 8, 2010, new talks are being formulated to suggest such a total ban.
Hitler was an enigma when it came to morals. He refused to use gas attacks on London, or even on the hated Soviets yet he allowed (Ordered?) thousands of innocent Jewish civilians to be gassed. Hitler loved children and animals, yet he allowed his forces to desecrate and murder millions of human beings in the east. Hitler WAS an enigma...
He didn't use gas in military situations since he was concerned about retaliation (the Allies had the same fears). Jews in gas chambers can't retaliate...
It's incredible that some people still believe in strategic bombing to lower the morale of the civilian population. Instead, London, Hamburg, Berlin, Hanoi and Belgrade all have proven that it unites the population, and reapes only scorn.
They partially worked. Just remember Nagasaki and Hiroshima. The only reason strategic bombings failed in London, Hamburg etc. was because the bombs didnt hit their targets effectively enough and this had a countereffect..
@Zajuts149 i think bombong military bases and war industry should be the one being bombed,not the innocents,what could be a better way to weaken your enemy than to cripple its industry and fighting capability...
Bombing cities (civilian targets) was a strategy used by all parties in WW2. The "morality" of it is of course irrelevant because we ALL know that it IS immoral. That said, allies would do whatever necessary to win the war. WAR IS HELL! We should never forget what war does to our humanity. After Japan attacked the USA the first way we were able to strike back at them was the Doolitle raid. We scattered a couple of dozen 500 lb. bombs around Tokyo. Terrorism? Yeah... Justified? Probably...
Sadly, the point of war is to kill people and break things. Why? TO break the back of one's foes and convince them that to fight on is foolish. For me, I hate war, but I also hate slavery; thus, if called upon to defend you and your family who would wish to enslave you, I would do all I could to stop them, and then maintain peace. Peace is not lack of conflict, but having the military might to insure that no one wants a war to start with. Sad, ugly, terrifying, but true.
@paladin313 well,that was the whole point of building up the army and strengthening your defences,but sadly to say,some dont like peace,coz war makes money,selfishly for them only,while many suffer the consequences,tsk...
the immorality lies in the people who perpetrate or look for a war _any_ war to fight. As in mercenaries. I don't know how you can ever call a trained killer who has no high objective other than killing people and getting paid for it moral.
the problem with bombing civilians is that it makes the combatants angrier and the people under siege usually develop more resolve to stick it out. This was true in London and in Berlin. Nowadays bombing of civilians is the only outcome of war...and the bombings will be nuclear. Still feel it's a good idea?
@sidensvans54 its just sad that the world has changed and the civilians are no longer considered as innocents,why consider them innocent if they can forsake you after threating them good,so many would just prefer to hurt them and let them know that they should just stay out or get hurt more...
It was not until the 4th Geneva Convention in 1950 that bombing cities was considered unacceptable. During WWII it was considered perfectly fine, especially against the filthy Hun.
nope ... it was restricted. otherwise in nürnberg the german airforce generals couldnt have been hanged (which was right) bombing civil targets only was allowed if weapons, ammunition or troops were hidden in them, or when the were used as fightingplace (is that the right word?) even today its allwoed to bombard hospitals, mosqes, museums or other places protected by the Unesco if they are used to hide weapons or troops .. hezbollah and hamas do it very often to get a win win situation.
But to build replicas of german citys only for testing how to set as much people as possible on fire. (not houses ... people) seems that also on the allied side human rights lost their worth (and dont forget .. they hade to be the good ones, cause the defended the human rights) The firestorms of Dresden Hamburg etc etc where planed. They trained to combust big amounts of humans by setting citys on fire.
no allied commander ever denied that. First small explosive bombs to open roves and windows, and then phosphorus bombs to start the fire. updraft and heat did the rest. some people were sucked out of their shelters and bruned in the air (without ever again touching the ground) to white ashes.
@ bowman2064 This was exactly the same principle which was applied by Le May against Japan. H.E. to break everything up and incendiaries to start the fires. For every firestorm in Germany there must have been at least the equivalent in Japan. Tokyo is a huge city and there was virtually nothing of it by the end.
The trouble with trying to win a war is that sometimes you have to be as bad as the other side. Sometimes worse. At that point morality is very difficult to argue.
@Camerameister i agree,war should be avoided at all cost,but if cant be avoided,then you have to fight for the better good of your country.its just sad that even today,wars were being made an no such thing has been done to fix this problem that our world is having,if only corruption and manipulation didnt prevail.
you're not aware of any because there weren't any. the only two people prosecuted who had any direct connection to the command structure of the Luftwaffe were Goering (Commander) and Erhard Milch (a Field Marshal). Goering was sentenced, not carried out, for other things, obviously...and Milch was sentenced to life imprisonment, later commuted, for crimes not connected in any respect to bombings of any sort.
@bowman2064 US do it more often than any1 in the world,they have killed and murdured more people than any1 else in the world,if you'll count every kill they made since the foundation of their country till now...
i guess violence is same as americans,or jusy say the word americans,and it would mean violence...
"especially against the filthy Hun" ... wow ... so old granny sleeping in bed at night, most likely oblivious to life in general around her, is a "filthy Hun", is she? Perhaps you need to desensitize yourself to the old propaganda there.
Don't let anyone dictate to you how fast or slow you should post these episodes Damoosebelly. You take your time and I will stay enjoy them just the same. Many thanks and keep up the good work!!!
i cant wait for part 2 .
yhx1000000 1 year ago
"They have sown the wind and now they are going to reap the whirlwind". Fuck me never a truer word spoken and never a country who deserved it more.
Noid111 1 year ago
cheers for posting, love the documentary. people should appreciative that they are able to watch the eps
jmmypaddy 1 year ago
I watched this series with my father back in the 70s when I was a little boy and was mesmerized by it. Most of my dads friends were WWII vets. My uncle drove landing craft at Normandy. My grandfather was at Pearl Harbor, and my grandmother, mother, and aunt, were living on Ford Island until one month before it was hit, at which time they had moved to Maui. And my wife is Japanese. That being said, WWII has always be very real to me. Anyway, thanks a lot "damoosebelly", you da man!!!!
hiyoshitanuki 1 year ago
In the early days of the offensive they blew up more fields than factories.
pix042 1 year ago
What exactly did the Nazis expect in return for their savagery?
LEOPARDTWO 1 year ago
DUN DUH DUH DUH DUH DUN DUH DUH....DUD DUH DUH DUH DUH....
spudnick3490 1 year ago
Strategic bombing is foremost a battle of Attrition. Area bombing is ineffective and only hardens and infuriates many people who were formerly apathetic. Bombing, when focussed on targets like radar stations, oil refineries and power stations can greatly interfere with military production. Targetting civilians may make your own people happy that "revenge" has been meted out but killing random civilians does little to "win the war". Nightime area bombing is a moral disgrace AND ineffective.
randy95023 1 year ago 2
@randy95023 The fire bombing of Tokyo was pretty effective. Moral? No. Effective? Yes. The men who did this knew it was not morally right, but there isn't much in war that is.
disamjisa 1 year ago 2
@randy95023 hilter invented the v-2 which killed 1000s of civilians...he also killed millions of the jewish civilians so i think wiping some german bastards out was justified dont u think.!!!
208stroker1 1 year ago
They calds this "chridmas tree" but waht is the xchmas? Ho is th tree?
I am from laos.
5000433 1 year ago
In the late years of WWI airforce theorists studied the strategic use of gas. Dropping gas rather than high explosive could potentially eliminate a city.
Millions dead in one night, with no need for pin-point accuracy.
International conventions on the use of gas sprang from this bilateral fear.
It is illuminating that similar resctrictions have not been placed on nuclear platforms. Just this month, Apr. 8, 2010, new talks are being formulated to suggest such a total ban.
OneWorldHistory 1 year ago
Hitler was an enigma when it came to morals. He refused to use gas attacks on London, or even on the hated Soviets yet he allowed (Ordered?) thousands of innocent Jewish civilians to be gassed. Hitler loved children and animals, yet he allowed his forces to desecrate and murder millions of human beings in the east. Hitler WAS an enigma...
randy95023 1 year ago
@randy95023
Hitler didn't regard all the races of the world as fully human. The Jews he thought, were no better than animals and he wanted rid of them.
He did hate the Russians for sure. But he wanted to capture the country and control it's industrial resources, not wipe them out.
In the case of London he was probably governed by the fear of retaliatory strikes on German cities am much as by morals.
AKAKArnott 1 year ago
He didn't use gas in military situations since he was concerned about retaliation (the Allies had the same fears). Jews in gas chambers can't retaliate...
faeembrugh 1 year ago
It's incredible that some people still believe in strategic bombing to lower the morale of the civilian population. Instead, London, Hamburg, Berlin, Hanoi and Belgrade all have proven that it unites the population, and reapes only scorn.
Zajuts149 2 years ago
They partially worked. Just remember Nagasaki and Hiroshima. The only reason strategic bombings failed in London, Hamburg etc. was because the bombs didnt hit their targets effectively enough and this had a countereffect..
zoiziful 2 years ago
and the targets were of course civilians..
zoiziful 2 years ago
Belgrade? hmm
StaffanGoldschmidt 2 years ago
Yes, NATO's bombing of Belgrade did not have the effect of demoralizing the Serbs. Instead it united them.
Zajuts149 2 years ago
@Zajuts149 i think bombong military bases and war industry should be the one being bombed,not the innocents,what could be a better way to weaken your enemy than to cripple its industry and fighting capability...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 And yet, they keep bombing targets that have civilian use as well. No war was ever won by bombing.
Zajuts149 1 year ago
@Zajuts149 well who did tons of bombings in the world?who did the most?tsk...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 wow, one non-sequitur after another...What are you smoking?
Zajuts149 1 year ago
@Zajuts149 just proved you cant answer my question,pity,tsk...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 and you just proved that you are a troll...
Zajuts149 1 year ago
@Zajuts149 and you are an orc..
teslagod2003 1 year ago
Dresden can burn...like Exeter burned. Miserable sods started it. There were no bombings after the Germans surrendered.
pix042 2 years ago
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no no no i fucked your mom dude!
jeffman3003 2 years ago
fool
TheMLAWLESS 2 years ago
The miserable sods? Believe it or not, there were some innocent women and children. Have a little empathy..
PeterMayer 2 years ago
@pix042 yeah right,like us didnt bombed japan,tsk...
what would you feel if someone say,america can burn in hell and hope it got destroyed into uther ruins...
think 1st,before saying anything...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@pix042 that's a pretty narrow view of life...
PeterMayer 1 year ago
surprised they never used gas again like world war one. that is strange.
Rico8458 2 years ago
Hitler vowed never to use gas after he seen what it did in WW1.
Shawners198 2 years ago
Bombing cities (civilian targets) was a strategy used by all parties in WW2. The "morality" of it is of course irrelevant because we ALL know that it IS immoral. That said, allies would do whatever necessary to win the war. WAR IS HELL! We should never forget what war does to our humanity. After Japan attacked the USA the first way we were able to strike back at them was the Doolitle raid. We scattered a couple of dozen 500 lb. bombs around Tokyo. Terrorism? Yeah... Justified? Probably...
randy95023 2 years ago 3
Sadly, the point of war is to kill people and break things. Why? TO break the back of one's foes and convince them that to fight on is foolish. For me, I hate war, but I also hate slavery; thus, if called upon to defend you and your family who would wish to enslave you, I would do all I could to stop them, and then maintain peace. Peace is not lack of conflict, but having the military might to insure that no one wants a war to start with. Sad, ugly, terrifying, but true.
paladin313 2 years ago 3
@paladin313 well,that was the whole point of building up the army and strengthening your defences,but sadly to say,some dont like peace,coz war makes money,selfishly for them only,while many suffer the consequences,tsk...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
the immorality lies in the people who perpetrate or look for a war _any_ war to fight. As in mercenaries. I don't know how you can ever call a trained killer who has no high objective other than killing people and getting paid for it moral.
bender183 2 years ago
Best way to go is no war and peace in futurealways!! you cannot police a war, or serve justice after one accurately
NEWLOVE559 2 years ago
the problem with bombing civilians is that it makes the combatants angrier and the people under siege usually develop more resolve to stick it out. This was true in London and in Berlin. Nowadays bombing of civilians is the only outcome of war...and the bombings will be nuclear. Still feel it's a good idea?
JamesArranMcGregor 2 years ago 3
@JamesArranMcGregor ask those who still aplly such strategies,they were the soulless demons who keep doing it...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
I saw this amazing tv serie, here in my house on the internet.
Nevenius 2 years ago 3
sounds like the IRA seen world at war and tried to copy your bombing tactics
timpatjoe 2 years ago
The World At War,shown in Brazil but made in England :)
alderaanic 2 years ago 5
I saw this amazing tv serie, here in Brazil.
daltonagre 2 years ago
I saw this amazing tv serie, in your grave.
askjiir 2 years ago
I saw this amazing tv serie, here in Finland
geewizgeniusplz 2 years ago 9
LOL
olliemills 2 years ago
It looks like this episode wasn't shown in Brazil. :-)
hoosierdaddy3277 3 years ago 13
LOL Maybe they only show the first 11???
maverick41218 2 years ago
In war it is always the civilians who get hammered.
sidensvans54 3 years ago 5
@sidensvans54 its just sad that the world has changed and the civilians are no longer considered as innocents,why consider them innocent if they can forsake you after threating them good,so many would just prefer to hurt them and let them know that they should just stay out or get hurt more...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
one famous american general once said..."i am not court-martialed because we are victorious. THAT is the difference
calibre9mm 3 years ago 6
Bombing civilians ... the geneve conventions has a name for it ...
bowman2064 3 years ago
It was not until the 4th Geneva Convention in 1950 that bombing cities was considered unacceptable. During WWII it was considered perfectly fine, especially against the filthy Hun.
40AcreMule 3 years ago 2
nope ... it was restricted. otherwise in nürnberg the german airforce generals couldnt have been hanged (which was right) bombing civil targets only was allowed if weapons, ammunition or troops were hidden in them, or when the were used as fightingplace (is that the right word?) even today its allwoed to bombard hospitals, mosqes, museums or other places protected by the Unesco if they are used to hide weapons or troops .. hezbollah and hamas do it very often to get a win win situation.
bowman2064 3 years ago
But to build replicas of german citys only for testing how to set as much people as possible on fire. (not houses ... people) seems that also on the allied side human rights lost their worth (and dont forget .. they hade to be the good ones, cause the defended the human rights) The firestorms of Dresden Hamburg etc etc where planed. They trained to combust big amounts of humans by setting citys on fire.
bowman2064 3 years ago 2
no allied commander ever denied that. First small explosive bombs to open roves and windows, and then phosphorus bombs to start the fire. updraft and heat did the rest. some people were sucked out of their shelters and bruned in the air (without ever again touching the ground) to white ashes.
bowman2064 3 years ago
@ bowman2064 This was exactly the same principle which was applied by Le May against Japan. H.E. to break everything up and incendiaries to start the fires. For every firestorm in Germany there must have been at least the equivalent in Japan. Tokyo is a huge city and there was virtually nothing of it by the end.
The trouble with trying to win a war is that sometimes you have to be as bad as the other side. Sometimes worse. At that point morality is very difficult to argue.
Camerameister 1 year ago
@Camerameister i agree,war should be avoided at all cost,but if cant be avoided,then you have to fight for the better good of your country.its just sad that even today,wars were being made an no such thing has been done to fix this problem that our world is having,if only corruption and manipulation didnt prevail.
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@bowman2064 well they cant be put on trial coz they were the victors,and history is written by victors...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
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teslagod2003 1 year ago
Which German Luftwaffe generals were hanged at Nurembeg for bombing? I'm not aware of any...
faeembrugh 3 years ago
you're not aware of any because there weren't any. the only two people prosecuted who had any direct connection to the command structure of the Luftwaffe were Goering (Commander) and Erhard Milch (a Field Marshal). Goering was sentenced, not carried out, for other things, obviously...and Milch was sentenced to life imprisonment, later commuted, for crimes not connected in any respect to bombings of any sort.
damoosebelly 2 years ago
@bowman2064 US do it more often than any1 in the world,they have killed and murdured more people than any1 else in the world,if you'll count every kill they made since the foundation of their country till now...
i guess violence is same as americans,or jusy say the word americans,and it would mean violence...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
"especially against the filthy Hun" ... wow ... so old granny sleeping in bed at night, most likely oblivious to life in general around her, is a "filthy Hun", is she? Perhaps you need to desensitize yourself to the old propaganda there.
YerTalkingKrap 3 years ago
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Camerameister 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@YerTalkinKrap I agree but it needs to be seen in the context of the time...
Camerameister 1 year ago
This might be the best one I've seen yet!
Tunasandwich395 3 years ago
@Tunasandwich395 are you insane?bombing civilians are the best one?you're prolly just a murdurer yourself or just plain hater...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 Are you a fucking dumbass? I meant this is my favorite episode in this series! Jesus Christ...
Tunasandwich395 1 year ago
@Tunasandwich395 plus,please stop using god's name in vain,i'm not religious,in fact i hate my religion,but i do have respect for god.
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 yeah right,but not as dumb as someone who'll favorite bombing innocent lives...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
Yes thanks for all these great videos
Suikoden420 3 years ago
Don't let anyone dictate to you how fast or slow you should post these episodes Damoosebelly. You take your time and I will stay enjoy them just the same. Many thanks and keep up the good work!!!
videoman10 3 years ago 7
thank you for your kind words and your patience. both are greatly appreciated!
damoosebelly 3 years ago 2
they are coming...sorry for the delay, life happened and i just haven't had the time ;)
damoosebelly 3 years ago 2
thanks so much...hope to see future episodes of WAW
raccoonjohnny 3 years ago