the minimum age for going to class would all depend on the class and the prospective student, I train at systema louisville and over the years we've had a couple of younger kids train with us, one kid was a highschool wrestler and I think was 14 or 15 when he started training. I wish I could have had something like systema when I was that age
Any dummy who says vlad is a fake is plain liar.He served elite spetsnaz commando units equvalent to that of delta force or CIA SAD or ISA.....when you dont know what you talking about and have nothing good to say plz shut up...and go to his class and well see how you stand ...what retardzzz
@speedyguydima this is old traditional Russian martial art,adoptet about 100 years in Soviet army toghether with combat sambo,today Systema is big mix of practicly everything but this is same old martial art
@SlavaSvarogu yes I know that, but my question (and I want an explicit answer) will systema teach a 14 year old? I mean is there any law that restricts a certain age group?
Anybody who thinks this is fake attend one of the classes and challenge the instructor, and see how fake it is. Im a MMa fighter with street fighting expierence in 2002, I attended Vlad's seminar in Nyc, in the old Fighthouse school, since then they moved to w27st, anyway, I threw a jab, cross combo at him, he wrapped up both my arms, almost broke them both. If I threw the technique any faster, I wouldve suffered serious injury. I have nothing to gain by defending Systema.
@Savta1234 Dude you are comparing uncomparable. How long does it take to master ShaoLin to applicable level? The Sistema is a different art thats made for fast learning, real world application in unpredictable environments. To be good at shaolin will take you much longer then with Systema.
I know what you mean. Systema is still very obscure. I want to learn it too, but the nearest teacher I was able to find is nearly 4 hours away. I may need to resort to self teaching with instructional DVD's and a few friends.
@shaunmc3433 self teaching is ok but you really need to feel it, it is very different when a master does it on you the move proper way. those minuscule movements make a big difference which you will not learn from DVDs it all about feel. IF you ever have the opportunity to Meet Vlad do it, I assure you will not be disappointed.
You're totally right. But like I said the nearest teacher I could find was nearly 4 hours away from where I live. If I knew of a school closer then I would sign up yesterday. But so far I haven't been able to find any.
It's the worst piece of crap I've ever ever seen ! Way to go KRAV MAGA HAHA i would like to see my teacher thierry cimcauskas expert canadian krav maga agaisn't this "fighting" technique ... If you can call that fighting LOL peace out ombres
@lordjp1 I have done Krav Maga and I now practice Systema. Don't just write it off; it is higly effective and brutal if needed. The reason the lessons are so slow is because we often slow down while training in order to learn how our bodies are moving and how to manipulate other people's bodies. The result is moves in combat that look bullshit because they don't conform to the idea of punching and kicking but cause serious damage. It has worked for centuries in combat and will continue to work.
@lordjp1 What you are seeing in the vid is not Systema fighting rather it is conditioning and basic skill work. My Systema teacher is a police officer and is often in scuffles on the street with criminals and he swears by Systema. There are also former military Tier One SF in our classes who consider what they have learnt to be better than what they learnt in the military. And that includes Krav Maga in their opinion.
@lordjp1 wow what a retarded comment, one in which you have clearly missed the entire point of this video, which doesn't claim to show a fighting technique atall but is a training session*
Your only wish for your teacher is to see him go against someone else in some childish competitive proving of a point?
for those who say its fake, how about you dish out the money go to vlads school in canada and try and beat him up. LOL, then we can put the story to rest
Okey, please take a look at 2:07 , when the guy that is about to be thrown over, right before that he puts his arm on Vladimirs neck, and when Vladimir throw him over, he jumps and roll over. How do i know that, because his feet is moving too quick up from the ground. I don't say that Systema is fake, but I know for sure that this was staged...
@Zitofy the scene which you are describing is, which considered to be a role, Vlad teaches to his students to role if they feel a joint break, if they dont, then you break your joint, just happened to me 4 days ago. Didn't role, hurt my elbow really bad.
I studied karate for five years. and trained with a guy who studied systema for 8 years. the techniques are very unorthodox, however it is a very effective self defense style.
todo mexicano que desee practicar Systema de manera seria y responsable, estamos en México DF, colonia Roma, calle San Lus Potosí 196, esquina con Medellín,, impartidas por los instructores certificados por Valdimir Vasiliev: Josafat Magaña y Erika Ortega,, informes 55648758
Hola , saludos yo soy de Merida yucatan y sabes si alguien de aca; esta certificado para dar clases y haber cuanto cuesta claro!! yo soy paramedico y he estado haciendo algunos ejercicios y la verdad me gusta y su filosofia del movimiento. yo la verdad soy pacifico odio la violencia, como tu entenderas mi profesion pero como arte marcial y algun tipo de ejerciciios me ha gustado mucho y sigo practivando lo poco que veo y felicidades!! por ser instructores de Vasiliev.
Only a small percentage use Systema; the rest use Sambo--the official combat system of Russia. The only advocators of Russia systema are the uneducated practitioners and experienced salesmen; to which the uneducated refer as "Masters".
Dmitri Konovich 123, it's a shame you are talking here like foreigners who know Russia only by movies like Red Heat or James Bond. When the heck did sambo become "official combat system in Russia"? The only "official" martial art every Russian special forces unit practices are shooting and scenario drills.
Drafted soldiers of any army are taught the very basic simple hand fighting techniques(I don't say- ineffective!), because of the lack of time and need for training a large number of them.
@mraks3 it's a bullshit. Russian military has never used this fake martial art))) Vasiliev makes money on idiots))) Why doesn't he fight with MMA-fighter? Because mix-fighter will kick his ass?)))
@hi11man666 there is no military force in the world using JUST one martial art or whatev. They may use just some of the techniques, maybe only ONE technique. It is all about advantage. If something wokrs - heyll take it.
@hi11man666 Because an MMA fighter fights with rules. If you're seriously comparing ring fighting competitions with real life you need to get off your couch for a while.
He was in Russian special forces for a long time and was also a hand to hand combat instructor for 10 years for those special forces... this was prior to his move to Canada. So he's seen enough action first hand.
@Spetsop Lol! There are a ot of different special forces in Russia. Where did he serve? Today russian special forces don't have definite style. Many of them practice combat sambo, others - different karate styles.
lol Does it really matter which unit he served in? He served as a member of Spetsnaz, that's all that matters. And yes, they do have different styles, systema Kadochnikova is another older style. So why is it so difficult to understand that Systema Ryabko is used as well? lol
@Spetsop Lol, spetsnaz (Спецназ) means Special Forces in russian :) So he served in special forces unit named Special Forces? I lol'd. In Russia there are different special units, that belong to different organisations. There are spetsnazes of Min. of Internal Affairs, FSB (KGB), Min. of Defence (intelligence directorate (GRU in russian). And every veteran of Spetsnaz can tell with honor where he served. We even know veterans of "Alfa" - elite russian FSB counter terrorist unit
Ya znau chto takoe Spetsnaz i kakie podrazdeleniya est' :)
V Angliiskom tozhe est' obshee nazvanie "Special Forces"... tak chto ya ne znau chto tut smeshnogo...
I don't know why you think it's important to know what unit he served in... but it's generally not a good thing to be arrogant and say "it's fake, and he's a scam artist" if you haven't even trained once with him :/
@hi11man666 Whether the Russian Military used this art or not, that's not important, the fact is that noone hits as hard as these guys do, and noone moves like they do either, u can't fake that movement. They go light with the people who don't want to be hit hard, and go hard with those who want to challenge them. Also, under extreme stress this is the only art that teaches u natural movement and proper breathing, so u don't freeze from the fear of being attacked.
@Samperor u asked those who sit in computer whole his life. And guys who were in REAL war in Chechnya fighting with terrorists choose systema. But - first u have to practice sambo or smth else, then - systema.
@Samperor Sambo is well suited for rapid and massive training of the troops as "karate" or Russian fistfight. In the USSR, ordinary citizens were forbidden to learn martial arts. As such there is simply Sambo (for ordinary citizens) and Combat Sambo is taught by special forces, and it includes many of the "systemа".
it does look like dancing sometimes, esp vladimir's stuff. but I can assure you its not choreographed. go to a class and see if you think its not real. systema involves hiding power, emanating calm, or even fear, perplexing and then surprising an opponent. you don't put yr dukes up, snarl and brawl. so it doesn't LOOK like what people think of as "real" fighting. but attack an experienced practitioner and you will quickly be on yr ass and you won't be able to work out how it happened.
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Oh god, Florida is the new Cuba. It's final, there is NO god. And yes Mexico is in a drug war. Juarez is having casualties left and right due to decapitations, rapings, murders, abductions, by those spanish speaking, terrorists of the Cartels. Sorry you're too narrow minded to actually look into whats going on instead of saying "Oh look, they speak spanish, we speak spanish, AMERICA IS BAD" yet you're swimming over here. Good job hypocrite
Cuba is in no way related to USA. Cuba was only overseen by USA to make sure they didn't do any funny business. If USA was controlled by Cuba, then USA would be able to sell Cuban Cigars LEGALLY. And of course America is not bad. EVERYBODY wants to come here
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sycomania134 3 months ago
@speedyguydima
the minimum age for going to class would all depend on the class and the prospective student, I train at systema louisville and over the years we've had a couple of younger kids train with us, one kid was a highschool wrestler and I think was 14 or 15 when he started training. I wish I could have had something like systema when I was that age
warehousetroll 6 months ago
Vladimir for president!!! problem solved
TheTechController 6 months ago
Any dummy who says vlad is a fake is plain liar.He served elite spetsnaz commando units equvalent to that of delta force or CIA SAD or ISA.....when you dont know what you talking about and have nothing good to say plz shut up...and go to his class and well see how you stand ...what retardzzz
AFosterBoy 7 months ago
Will systema take a 14 year old?
speedyguydima 11 months ago
@speedyguydima systema is classical Russian fight with history about millenium
SlavaSvarogu 6 months ago
@SlavaSvarogu that doesn't answer my question comrade.
speedyguydima 6 months ago
@speedyguydima this is old traditional Russian martial art,adoptet about 100 years in Soviet army toghether with combat sambo,today Systema is big mix of practicly everything but this is same old martial art
SlavaSvarogu 6 months ago
@SlavaSvarogu yes I know that, but my question (and I want an explicit answer) will systema teach a 14 year old? I mean is there any law that restricts a certain age group?
speedyguydima 6 months ago
@speedyguydima no prob at all
SlavaSvarogu 6 months ago
@SlavaSvarogu k because when my dad trained, he had to leave because he was too young, the law cahnged to minimum 16 year olds.
speedyguydima 6 months ago
Bullshit... Fake... Go to kadochnikov.tv Real russian military stufff
Yuri20022002 11 months ago
Anybody who thinks this is fake attend one of the classes and challenge the instructor, and see how fake it is. Im a MMa fighter with street fighting expierence in 2002, I attended Vlad's seminar in Nyc, in the old Fighthouse school, since then they moved to w27st, anyway, I threw a jab, cross combo at him, he wrapped up both my arms, almost broke them both. If I threw the technique any faster, I wouldve suffered serious injury. I have nothing to gain by defending Systema.
poohpoohcaca 1 year ago
I got mugged by a big blob of jello once. It was brutal, man.
shihonage 1 year ago
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shihonage 1 year ago
I don't trust anyone that tries himself only against students.
Bring yourself a shaolin master, then we'll see whether you know something.
Savta1234 1 year ago
@Savta1234 Dude you are comparing uncomparable. How long does it take to master ShaoLin to applicable level? The Sistema is a different art thats made for fast learning, real world application in unpredictable environments. To be good at shaolin will take you much longer then with Systema.
Spetsnazovets 1 year ago
@Savta1234 You've probably never even seen or met a Shaolin master and you watch too many martial arts movies.
Plax123 1 year ago
@Plax123
What's the point?
This russian guy with his system works on it like 25 years already. So he's a master.
So bring against him another great master, instead of show him throwing 17 year olds around.
What the fuck does that could prove about his "system"?
Savta1234 1 year ago
his movements are incredible!
NAMELESSWARRi0R 1 year ago
i REALLY want to learn this but i dont think there is any place teaching the systema near where i live
sandino27 1 year ago
@sandino27
I know what you mean. Systema is still very obscure. I want to learn it too, but the nearest teacher I was able to find is nearly 4 hours away. I may need to resort to self teaching with instructional DVD's and a few friends.
shaunmc3433 1 year ago
@shaunmc3433 self teaching is ok but you really need to feel it, it is very different when a master does it on you the move proper way. those minuscule movements make a big difference which you will not learn from DVDs it all about feel. IF you ever have the opportunity to Meet Vlad do it, I assure you will not be disappointed.
koshkudro 1 year ago
@koshkudro
You're totally right. But like I said the nearest teacher I could find was nearly 4 hours away from where I live. If I knew of a school closer then I would sign up yesterday. But so far I haven't been able to find any.
shaunmc3433 1 year ago
It's the worst piece of crap I've ever ever seen ! Way to go KRAV MAGA HAHA i would like to see my teacher thierry cimcauskas expert canadian krav maga agaisn't this "fighting" technique ... If you can call that fighting LOL peace out ombres
lordjp1 1 year ago
@lordjp1 I have done Krav Maga and I now practice Systema. Don't just write it off; it is higly effective and brutal if needed. The reason the lessons are so slow is because we often slow down while training in order to learn how our bodies are moving and how to manipulate other people's bodies. The result is moves in combat that look bullshit because they don't conform to the idea of punching and kicking but cause serious damage. It has worked for centuries in combat and will continue to work.
ginjaninja1988 1 year ago
@lordjp1 What you are seeing in the vid is not Systema fighting rather it is conditioning and basic skill work. My Systema teacher is a police officer and is often in scuffles on the street with criminals and he swears by Systema. There are also former military Tier One SF in our classes who consider what they have learnt to be better than what they learnt in the military. And that includes Krav Maga in their opinion.
ginjaninja1988 1 year ago
@lordjp1 wow what a retarded comment, one in which you have clearly missed the entire point of this video, which doesn't claim to show a fighting technique atall but is a training session*
Your only wish for your teacher is to see him go against someone else in some childish competitive proving of a point?
*if you even have a point that is*
misternylon 1 year ago
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@lordjp1 GO meet Vlad in Toronto , I promise, you will change your mind and will not be disappointed
koshkudro 1 year ago
i read some of the posts below. and am surprised to see that some people cant see the proficiency of skills.
farstar7 1 year ago
he needs to prove himself in cage if he can survive even one round with some beginners then your systema is not just like aikido nice ballet
supralee 1 year ago
ok sicret sambo its systema only gru alfa(vimpel) know this!!
maicro25 1 year ago
for those who say its fake, how about you dish out the money go to vlads school in canada and try and beat him up. LOL, then we can put the story to rest
imind 1 year ago
Okey, please take a look at 2:07 , when the guy that is about to be thrown over, right before that he puts his arm on Vladimirs neck, and when Vladimir throw him over, he jumps and roll over. How do i know that, because his feet is moving too quick up from the ground. I don't say that Systema is fake, but I know for sure that this was staged...
Zitofy 1 year ago
@Zitofy the scene which you are describing is, which considered to be a role, Vlad teaches to his students to role if they feel a joint break, if they dont, then you break your joint, just happened to me 4 days ago. Didn't role, hurt my elbow really bad.
koshkudro 1 year ago
I studied karate for five years. and trained with a guy who studied systema for 8 years. the techniques are very unorthodox, however it is a very effective self defense style.
mrcharles007 1 year ago
todo mexicano que desee practicar Systema de manera seria y responsable, estamos en México DF, colonia Roma, calle San Lus Potosí 196, esquina con Medellín,, impartidas por los instructores certificados por Valdimir Vasiliev: Josafat Magaña y Erika Ortega,, informes 55648758
alkleot 2 years ago
@alkleot gracias por la info. saludos.
lorenzolagarto0410 1 year ago
Hola , saludos yo soy de Merida yucatan y sabes si alguien de aca; esta certificado para dar clases y haber cuanto cuesta claro!! yo soy paramedico y he estado haciendo algunos ejercicios y la verdad me gusta y su filosofia del movimiento. yo la verdad soy pacifico odio la violencia, como tu entenderas mi profesion pero como arte marcial y algun tipo de ejerciciios me ha gustado mucho y sigo practivando lo poco que veo y felicidades!! por ser instructores de Vasiliev.
noadmi67 1 year ago
it was devloped from the cossack dance moves iv trained with vlad hes the real deal
spetsnaz37 2 years ago 3
russian stick combat and dynamic joint breaks getting them both this Friday and more cant wait!!!
MshadowsenseoC 2 years ago
1:32 was at thing of beauty. He didn't know that guy was coming at his back, he just reacted. Perfect.
Aaecus 2 years ago
stop you're fucking political diskussions!!!
That sistema isn't a fake, otherwise it wouldn't be used by russian military, idiot !
mraks3 2 years ago 25
Only a small percentage use Systema; the rest use Sambo--the official combat system of Russia. The only advocators of Russia systema are the uneducated practitioners and experienced salesmen; to which the uneducated refer as "Masters".
dmitrikonovich123 2 years ago
Dmitri Konovich 123, it's a shame you are talking here like foreigners who know Russia only by movies like Red Heat or James Bond. When the heck did sambo become "official combat system in Russia"? The only "official" martial art every Russian special forces unit practices are shooting and scenario drills.
Drafted soldiers of any army are taught the very basic simple hand fighting techniques(I don't say- ineffective!), because of the lack of time and need for training a large number of them.
deanObanion11 2 years ago
@mraks3 Who told you that it was used in russian military? Vasiliev? Lol =))))
hi11man666 1 year ago
@hi11man666 sure, himself. no, dude it is a fakt.
mraks3 1 year ago
@mraks3 it's a bullshit. Russian military has never used this fake martial art))) Vasiliev makes money on idiots))) Why doesn't he fight with MMA-fighter? Because mix-fighter will kick his ass?)))
hi11man666 1 year ago
@hi11man666 there is no military force in the world using JUST one martial art or whatev. They may use just some of the techniques, maybe only ONE technique. It is all about advantage. If something wokrs - heyll take it.
mraks3 1 year ago
@hi11man666 Because an MMA fighter fights with rules. If you're seriously comparing ring fighting competitions with real life you need to get off your couch for a while.
Plax123 1 year ago
@Plax123 Why MMA fighter can't fight without rules? Why Vasiliev can? How many people he has killed already? In what war he fought?
hi11man666 1 year ago
@hi11man666
He was in Russian special forces for a long time and was also a hand to hand combat instructor for 10 years for those special forces... this was prior to his move to Canada. So he's seen enough action first hand.
Spetsop 1 year ago
@Spetsop Lol! There are a ot of different special forces in Russia. Where did he serve? Today russian special forces don't have definite style. Many of them practice combat sambo, others - different karate styles.
hi11man666 1 year ago
@hi11man666
lol Does it really matter which unit he served in? He served as a member of Spetsnaz, that's all that matters. And yes, they do have different styles, systema Kadochnikova is another older style. So why is it so difficult to understand that Systema Ryabko is used as well? lol
Spetsop 1 year ago
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hi11man666 1 year ago
@Spetsop Lol, spetsnaz (Спецназ) means Special Forces in russian :) So he served in special forces unit named Special Forces? I lol'd. In Russia there are different special units, that belong to different organisations. There are spetsnazes of Min. of Internal Affairs, FSB (KGB), Min. of Defence (intelligence directorate (GRU in russian). And every veteran of Spetsnaz can tell with honor where he served. We even know veterans of "Alfa" - elite russian FSB counter terrorist unit
hi11man666 1 year ago
@hi11man666
Ya znau chto takoe Spetsnaz i kakie podrazdeleniya est' :)
V Angliiskom tozhe est' obshee nazvanie "Special Forces"... tak chto ya ne znau chto tut smeshnogo...
I don't know why you think it's important to know what unit he served in... but it's generally not a good thing to be arrogant and say "it's fake, and he's a scam artist" if you haven't even trained once with him :/
Spetsop 1 year ago
@hi11man666 Whether the Russian Military used this art or not, that's not important, the fact is that noone hits as hard as these guys do, and noone moves like they do either, u can't fake that movement. They go light with the people who don't want to be hit hard, and go hard with those who want to challenge them. Also, under extreme stress this is the only art that teaches u natural movement and proper breathing, so u don't freeze from the fear of being attacked.
poohpoohcaca 1 year ago
@mraks3 Alot of Russian told me that Sambo was much better than systema and Sambo was used in the military. Is what I heard from them.
Samperor 1 year ago
@Samperor u asked those who sit in computer whole his life. And guys who were in REAL war in Chechnya fighting with terrorists choose systema. But - first u have to practice sambo or smth else, then - systema.
erb1kay 1 year ago
@Samperor Sambo is well suited for rapid and massive training of the troops as "karate" or Russian fistfight. In the USSR, ordinary citizens were forbidden to learn martial arts. As such there is simply Sambo (for ordinary citizens) and Combat Sambo is taught by special forces, and it includes many of the "systemа".
loki4145 1 year ago
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This looks about as real as Capoiera - all just choreography, nothing real...
amasses 2 years ago
it does look like dancing sometimes, esp vladimir's stuff. but I can assure you its not choreographed. go to a class and see if you think its not real. systema involves hiding power, emanating calm, or even fear, perplexing and then surprising an opponent. you don't put yr dukes up, snarl and brawl. so it doesn't LOOK like what people think of as "real" fighting. but attack an experienced practitioner and you will quickly be on yr ass and you won't be able to work out how it happened.
jonoderidder 2 years ago 20
@jonoderidder very well said, thankyou.
misternylon 1 year ago
ta fuck r u talking about capoeira is like break dancing with only kicks and punches, thats nothing real lol
YaarZePirate 2 years ago
Mexico is kind of in a drug war right now lol. Hopefully some of their dumbass cops will show up to Vlad's seminar and learn a thing or two.
DimebagVision 3 years ago
B.S Mexico is not in any drug-war! That is propaganda.
Demand and supply.
Consumers and demanders are cowardly terrorizing Mexico.
Yankees can't stop buying and using all sort of illegal drugs.
Besides that, most of the cocaine enter into the USA via Cuba-FLA.
EkBalam707 2 years ago 3
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Oh god, Florida is the new Cuba. It's final, there is NO god. And yes Mexico is in a drug war. Juarez is having casualties left and right due to decapitations, rapings, murders, abductions, by those spanish speaking, terrorists of the Cartels. Sorry you're too narrow minded to actually look into whats going on instead of saying "Oh look, they speak spanish, we speak spanish, AMERICA IS BAD" yet you're swimming over here. Good job hypocrite
DimebagVision 2 years ago
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EkBalam707 2 years ago
Cuba is in no way related to USA. Cuba was only overseen by USA to make sure they didn't do any funny business. If USA was controlled by Cuba, then USA would be able to sell Cuban Cigars LEGALLY. And of course America is not bad. EVERYBODY wants to come here
DimebagVision 2 years ago
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EkBalam707 2 years ago
Санёк посмотри!
Maxim2000cz 3 years ago