and many of us may be mixed, but where does that give you the right to say "these people have no idea what they;re talking about?" Many Tainos acknowledge that they have other blood in them, but should that keep them from upholding the traditions and culture of a very strong and interesting part of themselves? I don't think so. No one can tell us that we cannot or should not embrace that part of ourselves, whether we are 1 or 100 percent Taino.
Many Tainos still uphold traditions from ancestral times. If you're going to make such a strong argument, do some research before making yourself sound like an idiot and an asshole. And clearly you are basing my mothers "african features" off of her darker skin color because you cannot see her facial features in the video, which I can promise you, are extremely Taino.
shoegazer300, the woman in the white dress is my mother, Valerie Vargas. All I have to say to you is you are an ignorant piece of shit. Do some research before making such an idiotic comment basing the Taino existence on one trip you took to the capitol of the DR years ago. We have an established culture, language, etc. If you want to see my people, go to the mountains, the rural parts of the DR and Puerto Rico, and you will find them. We are still VERY much alive and thriving.
Natives just wants official apology from the government acknowledging that the Americas had world's biggest genocide (and stop using the term Settlers), be compensated, respect their sacred sites and to seriously get their reservation cleaned up. How do government expect people living in the reserve make money when there is no economy to start with. And Stop using the term Drunk Lazy Natives. Who brought the alcohol? The White People. Peace!
sad, stupid people who have no clue who their fathers are, but "know" the ancestry of millions of others...really sad to think of the feeble minds who will actually believe this circus act.
These people have no idea what they're talking about. Indians from the Dominican Republic? I visited Santo Domingo in 1992 and I saw no indians there. What a joke. That lady in the white dress has clear African features. What's wrong with just being black or mulatto? Are they ashamed to admit that they actually have more Spanish and African blood than anything else? How sad and pathetic. Be proud of who you are now, not what 1 distant relative of yours was 400 plus years ago.
@Shoegazer3000 Please go tell that to most Eastern Tribal Members in the USA who have some mix with Europeans and Africans. Native American does not mean pure anything. They come in all colors. The Dominican Republic has 12 million people did you meet all of them? The DNA studies say that 20 % are of indigenous baclground. They are not denying anything but the Native contribution is denied by goverment and academia until recently when more studies shed light on this matter.
@Shoegazer3000, I've never been to the Dominican republic but one thing I can say is that truthfully, almost all the Natives in the Americas are mixed due to the European genocidal colonialism. Remember, the Natives took in White and Black babies and raised them as one of them unlike the Europeans who looked at the Natives as lower cast. This lady is probably a proud Dominican who most likely has Native blood too. Black genes are strong you know. ;) Cheers!
When the Spanish conquered the Dominican Republic, and Haiti. They brought African
Slaves with them, and they had also enslaved some of the indigenous people as well. I learned in 2011 that Tainos existed. I was shocked. I was lied to my entire life until last year. I would recommend the book titled: Before the Mayflower. It gives a detailed history of the African Slave trade in that 400 year period. Spain had once ruled a very large part of the Western Hemisphere.
I respect my people and my culture. I'm fully aware of the concept of " HIS STORY". Yet i'm trying to figure out how the knowledge of music was gained. We just might be mis representing our selves. Just trying to learn as much as I can and not just be given something cause some says this is it. Difference between natives here is they actually know there traditions that have been passed down for thousands of years. I wouldnt compare that to us.
Ok seriously where in the rule books does it say this was taino music, instruments and dances. I've studied taino history so i'm curious how we know this? Only records we have is what Christopher columbus and the spaniards left us. So can someone educate me please???? I am in no way hating just searching for answers thanks.
Just enjoy the music. Rules are constantly being broken, just ask the Native Americans here in U.S. Since you have studied the Taino history, I would suggest to you to contact the group and enlighten them. I am sure they will welcome constructive criticism. If yyou break down the word HISTORY, you will find that it was HIS Story and not ours. books are good, but common sense goes much farther. No disrespect towards you.
Diffently, I know both these lady. They are from kiskeya too (now known as dominican rep) The lady stading is the wife of good friend, Jorge. He works here in NY at the native american musseum. Not only does he work in the resurgence of our taino people. But he also bring other indiginous people toghether. My undstandting is that there wre tainos from cuba and Borkiken (now known as puerto rico) there aswell.
When do they have these festivials? I see Irka Mateo's was on the taino drums. I too am a taino from kiskeya like irka. I would have loved to meet her. Much love to all my tainos brother's from Kiskeya (now known as dominican rep) Boriken (now known as Puerto rico) and cuba. Taino pride
Thanx, You should go to my page. Your clips are there. Many positve feed back from people that I have shown it to. There is a way to save it to your page. Below the clip click on fav and it will be attached to your youtube page.
and many of us may be mixed, but where does that give you the right to say "these people have no idea what they;re talking about?" Many Tainos acknowledge that they have other blood in them, but should that keep them from upholding the traditions and culture of a very strong and interesting part of themselves? I don't think so. No one can tell us that we cannot or should not embrace that part of ourselves, whether we are 1 or 100 percent Taino.
jstehney1 2 months ago
Many Tainos still uphold traditions from ancestral times. If you're going to make such a strong argument, do some research before making yourself sound like an idiot and an asshole. And clearly you are basing my mothers "african features" off of her darker skin color because you cannot see her facial features in the video, which I can promise you, are extremely Taino.
jstehney1 2 months ago
shoegazer300, the woman in the white dress is my mother, Valerie Vargas. All I have to say to you is you are an ignorant piece of shit. Do some research before making such an idiotic comment basing the Taino existence on one trip you took to the capitol of the DR years ago. We have an established culture, language, etc. If you want to see my people, go to the mountains, the rural parts of the DR and Puerto Rico, and you will find them. We are still VERY much alive and thriving.
jstehney1 2 months ago
Natives just wants official apology from the government acknowledging that the Americas had world's biggest genocide (and stop using the term Settlers), be compensated, respect their sacred sites and to seriously get their reservation cleaned up. How do government expect people living in the reserve make money when there is no economy to start with. And Stop using the term Drunk Lazy Natives. Who brought the alcohol? The White People. Peace!
churchbigbang 4 months ago
the bronx?
where else would this ignorant crap get traction?
sad, stupid people who have no clue who their fathers are, but "know" the ancestry of millions of others...really sad to think of the feeble minds who will actually believe this circus act.
bayamonkey 1 year ago
These people have no idea what they're talking about. Indians from the Dominican Republic? I visited Santo Domingo in 1992 and I saw no indians there. What a joke. That lady in the white dress has clear African features. What's wrong with just being black or mulatto? Are they ashamed to admit that they actually have more Spanish and African blood than anything else? How sad and pathetic. Be proud of who you are now, not what 1 distant relative of yours was 400 plus years ago.
Shoegazer3000 1 year ago 3
@Shoegazer3000 Please go tell that to most Eastern Tribal Members in the USA who have some mix with Europeans and Africans. Native American does not mean pure anything. They come in all colors. The Dominican Republic has 12 million people did you meet all of them? The DNA studies say that 20 % are of indigenous baclground. They are not denying anything but the Native contribution is denied by goverment and academia until recently when more studies shed light on this matter.
Domingo12754 1 year ago
@Shoegazer3000 if u were smart enuff domicans hatians and puetroricans all tie in to taino indiand from african descendents
MsCellphone12345 6 months ago
@Shoegazer3000, I've never been to the Dominican republic but one thing I can say is that truthfully, almost all the Natives in the Americas are mixed due to the European genocidal colonialism. Remember, the Natives took in White and Black babies and raised them as one of them unlike the Europeans who looked at the Natives as lower cast. This lady is probably a proud Dominican who most likely has Native blood too. Black genes are strong you know. ;) Cheers!
churchbigbang 4 months ago
@Shoegazer3000
When the Spanish conquered the Dominican Republic, and Haiti. They brought African
Slaves with them, and they had also enslaved some of the indigenous people as well. I learned in 2011 that Tainos existed. I was shocked. I was lied to my entire life until last year. I would recommend the book titled: Before the Mayflower. It gives a detailed history of the African Slave trade in that 400 year period. Spain had once ruled a very large part of the Western Hemisphere.
thor2070 3 weeks ago
thats sounds familiar
no joke im sure i herd dat before some wer in dr
bkhex 1 year ago
Im proud to be a native american, and i salute all tribes, from north to the south.
"la primera por vida"
TheTrystar 2 years ago
nice beat.
Rickyrab 2 years ago
Taino Boricua All Daii!!! Royal Town Bayamon El Yunque
djpjineffect 2 years ago
Btw I appreciate your feed back thank you.
hellzkitchenyc 2 years ago
I respect my people and my culture. I'm fully aware of the concept of " HIS STORY". Yet i'm trying to figure out how the knowledge of music was gained. We just might be mis representing our selves. Just trying to learn as much as I can and not just be given something cause some says this is it. Difference between natives here is they actually know there traditions that have been passed down for thousands of years. I wouldnt compare that to us.
hellzkitchenyc 2 years ago
Ok seriously where in the rule books does it say this was taino music, instruments and dances. I've studied taino history so i'm curious how we know this? Only records we have is what Christopher columbus and the spaniards left us. So can someone educate me please???? I am in no way hating just searching for answers thanks.
hellzkitchenyc 2 years ago
Just enjoy the music. Rules are constantly being broken, just ask the Native Americans here in U.S. Since you have studied the Taino history, I would suggest to you to contact the group and enlighten them. I am sure they will welcome constructive criticism. If yyou break down the word HISTORY, you will find that it was HIS Story and not ours. books are good, but common sense goes much farther. No disrespect towards you.
MsNeonSky 2 years ago
Taino native pride
braveseaeagle 2 years ago
showing love from a west indian livin the uk.
chanderpool 2 years ago
nice video. =) its important to preserve our cultures.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
Diffently, I know both these lady. They are from kiskeya too (now known as dominican rep) The lady stading is the wife of good friend, Jorge. He works here in NY at the native american musseum. Not only does he work in the resurgence of our taino people. But he also bring other indiginous people toghether. My undstandting is that there wre tainos from cuba and Borkiken (now known as puerto rico) there aswell.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
5* to this awesome vid!!!!
minutemenAREcowards 3 years ago
FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!NATIVE PRIDE TO ALL MY TAINO BROTHERS AS WELL!!!! greetings from natives of the mainland!!!! PEACE!!!!!!!!!!
minutemenAREcowards 3 years ago
When do they have these festivials? I see Irka Mateo's was on the taino drums. I too am a taino from kiskeya like irka. I would have loved to meet her. Much love to all my tainos brother's from Kiskeya (now known as dominican rep) Boriken (now known as Puerto rico) and cuba. Taino pride
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago
This festival was put together by Bobby Gonzalez and was the first in this part of the Bronx. Bobby has hosted festivals like this for many years.
Irka Mateo is from SJ de la Maguana and Valerie Nanaturey Vargas is from Boriken
Baracutay 3 years ago 2
Thanx, You should go to my page. Your clips are there. Many positve feed back from people that I have shown it to. There is a way to save it to your page. Below the clip click on fav and it will be attached to your youtube page.
DominicanMestizo 3 years ago 3