I saw boxers get punches 10 times stronger than that one and get ktfo but getting up though,there are two possibilities 1 the fight was fake 2 liston sucks.
Yes the punch is real and enough to momentarily stun Liston, but that is all. No chance of a K.O. from that punch for any heavywieght, even Fraudley Harrison.
Yes the punch is real and enough to momentarily stun Liston, but that is all. No chance of a K.O. from that punch for any heavywieght, even Fraudley Harrison.
Yes the punch is real and enough to momentarily stun Liston, but that is all. No chance of a K.O. from that punch for any heavywieght, even Fraudley Harrison.
He fell down from the punch, then he decided it would be a good reason to STAY DOWN!!!
Ali did not hit that hard and if he did, why didn't he knock out anyone else with one punch, if that punch was so effective on a monster like Liston?? Can you really argue with that? Yes, because people want to worship Ali. However Ali knew nothing about Liston's faking, but he kind of suspected it when he rolled over like a baby!!! Someone should have put a big dummy in Liston's mouth and called mummy..
@triballistic Liston didnt quit. Nat Fleischer jumped in the ring and convinced the ref to call the fight due to the time Liston was on the ground making it a technical KO. hence why the fight went to Ali.
Problem was the fight should've continued because Ali never went back to his corner making however long Liston was down completely irrelevant. And the fight should've kept going.
Liston could continue but he chose to quit because he knew the inevitable outcome would be a whooping. So he quit early,relatively unhurt,collected his purse and went to mull and sulk over a bottle of the finest bourbon. I would have done the same, Life.
It should still bother you. Ali hit Foreman with numerous right hand lead punches, just like the phantom punch and he shrugged them off. Ali hit many other fighters with his right hand lead and they also shrugged it off. It's called the phantom punch because there is something very very dubious about the punch. IT IS REAL, BUT IT COULD NEVER HAVE KNOCKED OUT ANY HEAVYWEIGHT BOXER, NEVER MIND THE FORMIDABLE SONNY LISTON.
The ref can only start counting when the opponent is in a neutral corner. Ali didn't and stood over shouting "Get up and fight, sucker!" The moment was captured by ringside photographer Neil Leifer in what has become one of the most iconic images in sport. In footage from the event shows Ali asking his entourage "Did I hit him?". The reason why ref stopped it after not counting was Nat Fleischer, publisher of The Ring, took it upon himself to climb into the ring and tell ref that as Liston had
anyone who thinks the mob interfered is full of BS! Ali was way better then sonny and sonny new that so he quit, come on Ali knew he didn't hit him that hard and wanted him to get up and finish the fight properly.
Everyone's entitled to his opinion. And mine just happens to be that Ali's title of 'the greatest' is bogus. I personally don't think he had what it takes to face up to the greats. But like I said, that's just my opinion.
anyone who thinks liston took a dive or threw either one of the fights needs to re-think......surely Liston was much more valuable to the mob as the champion and not the ex-champion? if this was some sort of plot for the mob to get money, perhaps from betting on ali as many say, would liston being the heavyweight champion of the world not have made them more money?
there was no dive, he got caught with a punch he never saw coming and thats the end of it
Faked! no doubt about it. that punch was at the wrong angle to have the kind of power necessary to knock the guy out. a tap like that on the jaw wouldn't put a man down that fast without a lot of damage buildup. Ali couldn't have taken on the greats like Dempsey, Marciano and Tyson.
@DimacheWolf lol Ali is one of the greats, some people might think its cool to go against what many others think, but its a fact. As far as heavyweight champs go i personally think he is number one. As much as i like the three boxers u named, i dont think they could beat ali in his prime.
@DimacheWolf i dont care about your opinion of ali being the greatest, or not, or up their with the greats. but fact is that punch connected, and connected well. "punch was at the wrong angle to have the kind of power necessary to knock the guy out. a tap like that on the jaw wouldn't put a man down that fast without a lot of damage buildup" that right there is two sentences full of just straight up nonsense. theres been plenty of fighters knocked out from punches that were similar.
The only real competition Ali would've had in his prime years would be Joe Louis or Marciano, and maybe Jack Johnson. It's unfortunate you can't put them all together and see, But Foreman, Norton, and Larry Holmes all admit at one time they thought Ali was the greatest of all time. So when they top boxers of the most popular boxing era as we know, say he's the greatest, he most likely is.
Some people won't admit tiger woods is the best golfer in the world, but in reality, he is.
@RandomLevitation Ali would have no trouble with marciano, he is way too slow, maybe louis, but he would have much bigger trouble with tyson than both of them, maybe the toughest challenge of his career except for maybe foreman
@revelation6415 What? You got it all backwards...Marciano was 49-0 with 43 KOs. Louis was 69-3 with 57 KOs. Muhammad Ali would have the fight of his life against Joe Louis, Who would easily put Tyson on his back in the first, maybe second round. Think of it like this, Mike Tyson was knocked out by a 3 punch combo by Buster Douglas, who was totally over the hill.
In sincerity, there is a large, color photo of the punch hitting Sonny and it seems that trhe punch migfht have been authentic. Maybe the two Liston fights are what the results say they are, notwithstanding, there is still a big bunch of apparent swindles in Ali's favor. These were not fixes as we know them but were, uh, understandings on the part of refs and judges. Look at Logan, Daniels, Cooper I, Bonavena, Frazier II and Shavers as the most obvious examples of the leitmotiv.
@sugarlanskee8 History Behind this Punch: 1. You try imitating Ali's movements first, Try to lean far back, while moving backwards and than fire back a right, it's very difficult. 2. Liston was throwing this fight, When Clay hit him, he was gonna drop anyways. 3. Ali wasn't a powerful puncher, and Liston was, so with such a fast and not so powerful punch, at the time people didn't believe he actually, physically touched Liston.
@sugarlanskee8 And 4. He was yelling at him to get up cause he wanted the fight to continue, He knew Liston wasn't knocked out from that punch. It was a disgrace to boxing to get paid to step into the ring and fake a knockout. It was the speed of Clay that blew peoples minds, the only other person fast enough to recreate that is Mayweathers counter. There wasn't High Def slow mo in the 60's, So people thought he didn't even touch him, and that Clay was involved somehow. Guilty by association.
Well, we have a strong circumstantial case against LBJ for Nov 22, 1963 and with Clay-Ali we have a large collection of questionable endings from Cooper I to Spinks II, 16 or 17, depending. Ali, because of doublethink, never caught on that when he was having an off-night, he was still protected. With Liston, we have a separate issue--possible dives. But we have less evidence than we do against LBJ for both Liston, no one caring at this point.
@sugarlanskee8 This is boxing, this is a matter of facts, Its what you know, and what you can prove. Ali wasn't a cheater, some folks just cant hang with someone being the greatest. You asked, so I gave you an answer.
The "Greatest"? You can't be the "greatest" when a fight is stopped on a cut that wasn't impairing the opponent, a glove is cut for you, you clutch, grab and wrestle but aren't dq'd, and get a basket full of decisions that should have gone against you. All these are added to the two Listons.
@sugarlanskee8 You can be the greatest when you knock out Archie Moore and Floyd Patterson, When you beat Joe Frazier, when you knock out George Foreman. Nobody could beat Foreman, He was 40-0 and than Ali came and knocked him out.
Ali loses to Frazier. Frazier Loses to Foreman, Ali Beats Foreman, and than Frazier twice.
@IkilledassholeJFK author brian tuohy who wrote 'the fix is in' will have this fight in his next book and has the fbi files proving this fight was fixed. now ali had no idea about it because outside of wrestling if something is fixed you don't want the winner to know.
@rmgrowe1617 WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BOOK TO KNOW IT WAS A FIX. HE BARELY TOUCHED Him and if tht is not enough listons' fake-ass act rolling around getting up and falling back down is the worst acting in the history of the world. of course it was fixed - liston was mobbed up. ali knew he didn't hit him hard enough. of course ali knew. what's on the fbi files? tapes of the mafia? probably. so then why did they not prosecute? Oh yea - the taping was done illegally
@revelation6415 wow - what a genius you are. how long did it take to figure that out? In other words- you don't have a fucking clue as to what happened. moron. obvioulsy liston quit moron - he rolls around in sucha totally fake way only a moron like youi wouldn't be able to figure it out. plus - the mob was bettingon him losing - he was all mobbed up.
@kdtrimble thank yu sum1 has sense people just cnt tke the fc t he was a great boxer nd did knok him out! maybe he didnt hit him as hard as he could buh if that happnd to any of us we would knok out withought A DOUBT!
wow in HD it becomes a lot clearer that there was actually a very solid blow... TIP: look at listons head! it does the wobble that you sometimes see with punches that land flush.
All right people, its like this. The punch WITHOUT a doubt HIT and HURT Liston. Thats out of the way, the only question is was it enough to really hurt Liston enough to knock him out? Its possible Liston just knew Ali was just way out of his league at that point and when he got hurt he just decided to give up. I do believe that's what happened.
@NyyGyro At this time Liston had been involved with the Mafia and they must have told him to stay down. It may not have been true but i think thats the reason why he hung himself. It was a hard punch. Ali is my favouite fighter and this is one of my favourite fights but i still have doubts if Liston got told too loose or not
@NyyGyro Out of his league? Are you kidding? Liston was bigger, stronger and more experienced. If it was a dive, it was orchestrated outside the ring.
@longmind Yes out of his league. Are you kidding for saying im kidding? Ali completely made Liston the baddest man on the planet submit in their first fight. It was no different in this one. Ali was too conditioned and too fast for him by now. He was hurt and just gave up most likely.
@2ty1234 All the mafia themes are Speculations, speculations will be speculations. The punch clearly landed and hurt him, Liston might not have been hurt enough to be KO'd but he knew Ali was out of his league. Either way Ali clearly made the baddest man on earth look ordinary in their first fight. Liston was so frustrated he just quit in the 7th.
@vladiator100 agreed. in their first fight Ali really was in a different league than Liston and it clearly showed, in my opinion it's the best prime Ali fight. Ali's speed in that fight was astonishing.Oh and you should watch a documentary called "Facing Ali", in it George Foreman says that Liston was fighting only for money when he faced Ali for the second time and because of their first fight he knew he couldn't win so he took a dive right away.
lol come on man, the punch was thrown while Ali was leaping backward and almost doing a pirouette with his feet . Do you know anything about grounding your punches in Boxing? You can't throw an authoritative punch like that...and this is Sonny Liston.
My first time actually seeing the punch not just pictures... I was shocked how hard it hit and it was right on the temple. It shook his equillibrium. Why couldn't this be a ko punch?
Well because it was Ali (not known for power) Koing Liston (known for taking hellacious punches from real power punches) , and because of the ridiculous performance of Liston during the count and after.
guys he did get knocked out it was was a punch liston didnt see coming and surprised him and its the one boxers dont see coming that always does the most damage.... just look at the way anderson silva knocks people out like this
I just watched the Movie (Phantom Punch) & i believe Liston gave up & couldnt do anything anyway even if he did get up. I mean, even Ali threw another punch after the Phantom Punch becos he knew it was B.S & stood over Liston in anger
If you watch closely you will notice that Liston was moving forward at the time the punch landed. Most knockouts occur when the fighter who gets hit is moving into the punch. When you add the weight and momentum of a fighter moving into a punch it dramatically increases the destructive power of that punch. The punch also landed cleanly on the temple - another factor in producing a knockout.
@Nicar526 In boxing the punch doesn't necessarily have to be thrown hard it just has to be sound mechanically, and accurate. If you at Ali's body @ 0:06 he's rotated his right hip forward and is in full extension on the toes of his right foot. That movement along with the placement (on the end of the chin) & timing (countering a jab...Liston didn't even see it) is enough to KO anyone. You can Also see the ripple go down Liston's back due to the impact of the punch. Ali hit him flush lol
if you look at his bicep and peck, you can see the strength in that little punch he threw, his entire arm and peck ripple back and forward when he throws the punch @ 0:04 clearly a legit hit and not a thrown fight
My grandfather would never say such a thing. Mr. Ali and Sonny were best friends. If he did say something like that I'd like to see it. You have to understand that everything that was said was post and pre-fight propaganda. My grandmother Geraldine Liston called Mr. Ali Cassius Clay until the day she died. I will reveal a lot of this in my upcoming book.
wow, never seen the slow mo before. I always thought it looked fishy but that it was possible it was a knockout because Liston didn't see it coming and we all know that is the punch that knocks you out. After seeing the slow mo, that would have been a KO even if Liston saw it coming. That is the full force of Ali right to the temple. Greatest boxer who ever lived.
Not taking any sides , but its looks like a total legit knockout punch , you could see the impact and force , also sonny was walking towards him when he got hit which makes a huge difference in force.
Liston DIVES. If you really love boxing, do some reaserch on these two great fighters. Fixed or not (high chance it was) Sonny threw it. i think! yes it was a hard punch that i think knocked sonny down but no way OUT. just watch the whole fight and it looks like he threw it. greatest fighters tho, love um both.
@ayresy89 Ali told his corner man Liston threw the fight ...abdul rahman was his name i believe Ali,,,alot people won't admit it cause it takes away from the Ali legend ..Liston had death threats media hated him till ali turned muslim, malcom x just been killed, .,,he didnt need it,,leotis martin is only man to ever ko Liston a old sonny,knocked him cold ,,no rolling arnd like a bad actor,with ali screaming at him to get his ass up.
@theirishbloke exactly! "get up bear, nobody will belive this" liston told forman he was boxing strickly for money, he didn't care, liston knew he'd still be top ranked fighter if he threw it. everyone thought liston would kill ali in this one too, so liston to loose in first round. mob! big money!? black muslims dont want ali losing, hes great for there publicity! oh and wasn't malcom x taken out by the black muslims? feared group at the time -----
Liston was known to have an iron chin. His only lose before Ali was a 10rd (I forget to who) decision because his jaw was broke. This was a dive. Ali suspected something was up. You can tell in the famous picture of him standing over Sonny.
This was more of a mental KO than a physical one. The punch clearly landed but if Liston had wanted to continue he could have. Sonny stayed down because he didn't care anymore and he knew he would mostly lose if he got up to fight longer.
great punch that i think did knock liston down but not a KO! liston took a dive. that was not a ko punch he took (the first good punch of the fight) if it was not fixed then liston took a dive. think about it. who was Clay here, the champ, who was he involved with? the black muslims! liston - ex champ, strong conection with the mob, everyone thought liston was still gonna kill clay and so if liston tokk a dive it really didn't matter cos he'd always be the top right! i think dive.
@greenrate lol people like you make me laugh....even when a slow motion image of the fight shown you still believe in all your bullshit conspiracy theories
This is similar to the punch that KO'd Forrest Griffin when he fought Silva. I remember watching the replay of that one and thinking "that looked really weak", but in reality it's just a very quick forceful punch just like this one by Ali.
It's legit! When I watched the fight back then, I was sure it was a fake, but it's a real, hard punch. Watch Liston's ribcage and head. I think it took him by surprise, but that's not Ali's fault. If he then decided to have an easy payday and STAY down, that's not Ali's fault either. Ali, though, should have been in the neutral corner. Bad officiating by Jersey Joe (who probably was still tuning up his mind).
I dont get how people think it was faked. I saw the fight and the first time i saw the punch i already knew it was a real punch. But Ali must have been stronger then i thought to have knocked out someone with a punch at that angle
Ali connected. LIston took the shot. The fact that he was on his hands coming down, his eyes were clear and he looked very conscious, he just simply gave up.
I came here to see if it was faked or not, believing it probably was. Liston later said he faked it to a reporter. Now I realize, it was definitely a short, legit punch Liston didn't see. I call this KO legit. The reason Liston later lied about throwing the fight is obvious. It's a lot easier to say "Yah, I threw the fight..that bum could never have beaten me legitimately" rather than say "The kid Ko'd me."
its not that Ali didnt connect, everybody knows Ali connected. Its that Liston could easily have gotten up but chose not to even Ali said Liston took a dive. There were meetings between the muslim camp and Liston after the Malcolm X assassination that Ali was the next target and that it was followers of Liston that had something to do with it and that Liston was afraid of being shot or hurt and wanted out of the ring as quickly as possible, then again maybe he was just old and wanted out fast
I watched the fight in my parents' kitchen, and saw no punch, and always thought it was fixed. This is the first time I've seen this video, and I'm fascinated to see that there was a pretty hard punch delivered. If this is the camera view used for television, then I can see how the punch could be missed/camouflaged. Watching it a few times I can see that Clay did have his right foot set. Liston's head did shake from the blow. Also the shot was on Liston's left side, maybe on his temple.
That was a KO punch if there ever was one. That had MEGA force behind it. The sholder is just right. The presentaion is perfect. I'd hated to been Sonny that night. OUCH!
I agree with dorsa here. L just lost heart. The punch itself was not sufficient. 1. L no longer felt invulnerable. 2. The postponement (A's hernia) definitely aged him. 3. After the minute or so before the knockout L must have felt it was hopeless and there was no point in putting up a fight. Although the odds still favored L it's hard to see the advantage in L taking a dive in this fight but not the first one. L couldn't even keep up with Leotis Martin, much less Ali.
The overhand right is a basic defense against a single left jab but it has to be delivered quick. No problem for Ali who delivered it to perfection! The disparaging title "phantom punch" is a credit to Ali's amazing speed! The knockdown was genuine but I honestly believe that Liston could have beaten the count - he just didn't want to get up and face Ali. In the first fight it took Ali a couple of rounds to get confortable with Liston. But Sonny knew Ali had him from the bell in this one.
Larrywheels. .. Simmer down you spastic , every fighter , big or strong doesn't matter , from a small quick punch your are screwed and the fact listen thought he went for Ali and missed the momentum forward and the beautiful right Is more head fucking then and hard punch u can see coming . Ali owned him .. Far too quick !
Exactly like the punch that Klitschko KOed Solis with. Liston coming forward like Solis, with lead foot off the ground like Solis, Ali and Klitschko counter with a right hand to the temple. Impact is due to both men's weight and forward motion.
@tunalik whys that? and i have fought a lot, had 150 amatuer fights, box for forces. signnig off by january and getting my pro licence. u sound like a man that needs a fucking slap
I call BS! I can understand how a prissy girl could mistake what she see's in this video as something other than a straight up knockout but not someone who's stepped into the ring. If you can't tell that is enough force to knockout any man alive then you are just short of retarded.
@tunalik like i said, never know if he did take a dive, ''DOES look like it stung a little'' u fucking muppet haha, who are u bert sugar? not that much weight behind it at all, just a normal right hand lead of alis
@advent8888888888 ..listen dude...go watch his knockout of Zora Folley..its the same punch.....go find it..its right here...watch Skills, Brains and Guts Muhammed Ali
in "Facing Ali", the documentary, Foreman said Liston threw the fight, Ali is to cocky to be involved in a set up like that, he had already won the olympics, why would he set up Sonny if he knew he could beat him.
listen was hit by bigger punches than that -ali never planted his feet, the shot was clean , but not a knock out punch. the word was that the fight was going to be a stink job-fixed. vegas boxing comm art laurie told me that he lobbied to not have the fight in vegas. gov grant sawyer wanted it in vegas,but art threatened to resign. the fight was held in a high school gym in lewiston maine. can you figurre it out now???-ali was still the- underdog-boxing and the underworld were in bed.
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borntobeborn1 2 days ago
the thing is...even if the "connecting" punch was forceful...it looked like he was beginning his dive before the connection...
hoyfanofboulder 3 days ago
I saw boxers get punches 10 times stronger than that one and get ktfo but getting up though,there are two possibilities 1 the fight was fake 2 liston sucks.
slugfestdude 4 days ago
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Yes the punch is real and enough to momentarily stun Liston, but that is all. No chance of a K.O. from that punch for any heavywieght, even Fraudley Harrison.
pianoboyfriendable 4 days ago
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Yes the punch is real and enough to momentarily stun Liston, but that is all. No chance of a K.O. from that punch for any heavywieght, even Fraudley Harrison.
pianoboyfriendable 4 days ago
Yes the punch is real and enough to momentarily stun Liston, but that is all. No chance of a K.O. from that punch for any heavywieght, even Fraudley Harrison.
pianoboyfriendable 4 days ago
He fell down from the punch, then he decided it would be a good reason to STAY DOWN!!!
Ali did not hit that hard and if he did, why didn't he knock out anyone else with one punch, if that punch was so effective on a monster like Liston?? Can you really argue with that? Yes, because people want to worship Ali. However Ali knew nothing about Liston's faking, but he kind of suspected it when he rolled over like a baby!!! Someone should have put a big dummy in Liston's mouth and called mummy..
pianoboyfriendable 4 days ago
@triballistic Liston didnt quit. Nat Fleischer jumped in the ring and convinced the ref to call the fight due to the time Liston was on the ground making it a technical KO. hence why the fight went to Ali.
Problem was the fight should've continued because Ali never went back to his corner making however long Liston was down completely irrelevant. And the fight should've kept going.
AussieDJ 6 days ago
Liston could continue but he chose to quit because he knew the inevitable outcome would be a whooping. So he quit early,relatively unhurt,collected his purse and went to mull and sulk over a bottle of the finest bourbon. I would have done the same, Life.
triballistics 1 week ago
Fixed or not, Ali was a better fighter than Liston, who was confounded by his speed and quickness. Next.
peteberwick 1 week ago
That was one fast punch, and yes it could stun any boxer, specially if you hit the sweet spot
MRKAMPAC 1 week ago
My first thought was: how could this black and white film be in High Definition?
joaodrums 1 week ago
It should still bother you. Ali hit Foreman with numerous right hand lead punches, just like the phantom punch and he shrugged them off. Ali hit many other fighters with his right hand lead and they also shrugged it off. It's called the phantom punch because there is something very very dubious about the punch. IT IS REAL, BUT IT COULD NEVER HAVE KNOCKED OUT ANY HEAVYWEIGHT BOXER, NEVER MIND THE FORMIDABLE SONNY LISTON.
pianoboyfriendable 1 week ago
THE FACTS:
Ali is not set properly to deliver a very telling punch.
Ali was never known to be a devastating puncher.
Ali never knocked out anyone else with a single punch.
Ali never knocked out anyone else with that kind of punch.
CASE CLOSED
pianoboyfriendable 1 week ago
@pianoboyfriendable the first two are opinions, the next two are circumstantial. Dont become a lawyer.
kslo5 1 week ago
He did face up to the greats and beat them. Trevor Berbick, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Norton etc..It's good to think before mouthing off trash.
pianoboyfriendable 1 week ago
Just finished reading."King Of The World" Read it yourself and then see what you think. Ali is the man.
jandm9002 1 week ago
THANK YOU SOOO MUCH. THIS HAS BOTHERED ME FOR AGES. ALI DID HIT HIM FLUSH. GREAT TO CLEAR THIS UP ON HIS 70th BIRTHDAY.
averagejoe511 1 week ago
The ref can only start counting when the opponent is in a neutral corner. Ali didn't and stood over shouting "Get up and fight, sucker!" The moment was captured by ringside photographer Neil Leifer in what has become one of the most iconic images in sport. In footage from the event shows Ali asking his entourage "Did I hit him?". The reason why ref stopped it after not counting was Nat Fleischer, publisher of The Ring, took it upon himself to climb into the ring and tell ref that as Liston had
khadam81 1 week ago
anyone who thinks the mob interfered is full of BS! Ali was way better then sonny and sonny new that so he quit, come on Ali knew he didn't hit him that hard and wanted him to get up and finish the fight properly.
mumfordfan112 1 week ago
thats not even the evidence
watch the fight
the ref never gave liston a count he just chased ali around the ring
have you ever seen a boxing match when someone gets floored and they dont get counted out?
i love ali i just know that someone wanted liston to go down in the first to make a shit load of money
honestly just watch how fishy the ref was in this fight
walmartian555 1 week ago
lol phantom punch? people are dumb, stop talking about boxing and actually step into the ring.
callmetoro 2 weeks ago
Everyone's entitled to his opinion. And mine just happens to be that Ali's title of 'the greatest' is bogus. I personally don't think he had what it takes to face up to the greats. But like I said, that's just my opinion.
DimacheWolf 3 weeks ago
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anyone who thinks liston took a dive or threw either one of the fights needs to re-think......surely Liston was much more valuable to the mob as the champion and not the ex-champion? if this was some sort of plot for the mob to get money, perhaps from betting on ali as many say, would liston being the heavyweight champion of the world not have made them more money?
there was no dive, he got caught with a punch he never saw coming and thats the end of it
Wu2pac 3 weeks ago
Faked! no doubt about it. that punch was at the wrong angle to have the kind of power necessary to knock the guy out. a tap like that on the jaw wouldn't put a man down that fast without a lot of damage buildup. Ali couldn't have taken on the greats like Dempsey, Marciano and Tyson.
DimacheWolf 3 weeks ago
@DimacheWolf lol Ali is one of the greats, some people might think its cool to go against what many others think, but its a fact. As far as heavyweight champs go i personally think he is number one. As much as i like the three boxers u named, i dont think they could beat ali in his prime.
Wu2pac 3 weeks ago
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@DimacheWolf i dont care about your opinion of ali being the greatest, or not, or up their with the greats. but fact is that punch connected, and connected well. "punch was at the wrong angle to have the kind of power necessary to knock the guy out. a tap like that on the jaw wouldn't put a man down that fast without a lot of damage buildup" that right there is two sentences full of just straight up nonsense. theres been plenty of fighters knocked out from punches that were similar.
callmetoro 2 weeks ago
@DimacheWolf hell ive seen people floored with a well placed jab to the chin, its not really something that rare
callmetoro 2 weeks ago
he took a dive because he new he was goin ta get destroyed either way but the punch was legit
TheBouncetodaounce 3 weeks ago
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He was just that good.
XSVterror18 3 weeks ago
00:05 MOOB SHAKE!
TitchAndArchie 1 month ago
nice knock out. uneducated fight fans are uneducated ...
dusty6161 1 month ago
honestly, the best part about this was seeing his fucking speed of light reaction time in slow motion, Liston's left had no chance...
boonexy 1 month ago
The only real competition Ali would've had in his prime years would be Joe Louis or Marciano, and maybe Jack Johnson. It's unfortunate you can't put them all together and see, But Foreman, Norton, and Larry Holmes all admit at one time they thought Ali was the greatest of all time. So when they top boxers of the most popular boxing era as we know, say he's the greatest, he most likely is.
Some people won't admit tiger woods is the best golfer in the world, but in reality, he is.
RandomLevitation 1 month ago
@RandomLevitation Ali would have no trouble with marciano, he is way too slow, maybe louis, but he would have much bigger trouble with tyson than both of them, maybe the toughest challenge of his career except for maybe foreman
revelation6415 3 weeks ago
@revelation6415 What? You got it all backwards...Marciano was 49-0 with 43 KOs. Louis was 69-3 with 57 KOs. Muhammad Ali would have the fight of his life against Joe Louis, Who would easily put Tyson on his back in the first, maybe second round. Think of it like this, Mike Tyson was knocked out by a 3 punch combo by Buster Douglas, who was totally over the hill.
RandomLevitation 3 weeks ago
that punch didnt even have much behind it but ali was able to do that
AminaBrainy 1 month ago
In sincerity, there is a large, color photo of the punch hitting Sonny and it seems that trhe punch migfht have been authentic. Maybe the two Liston fights are what the results say they are, notwithstanding, there is still a big bunch of apparent swindles in Ali's favor. These were not fixes as we know them but were, uh, understandings on the part of refs and judges. Look at Logan, Daniels, Cooper I, Bonavena, Frazier II and Shavers as the most obvious examples of the leitmotiv.
sugarlanskee8 1 month ago
Why isn't it real? Foreman knocked out MANY opponents with short hooks just like that.
SuperBubba316 1 month ago
GHOST DETECTED
extoraxot 1 month ago
this was like an overcut i think its a real ko and not faked look at listons head how it vibrates.
0Boxer0o 1 month ago
That flicking hook to the jaw is almost always a KO. Speed and accuracy matter, not raw haymaker power.
flourbiscuit76 1 month ago
anchor punch
shaunyb0i 1 month ago
And that doesn't mean Clay was involved at the time. When he knocked him down he started yellin for him to get up.
RandomLevitation 1 month ago
@RandomLevitation
If he thought he landed some power/"anchor punch" why yell at him at all?
sugarlanskee8 1 month ago
@sugarlanskee8 History Behind this Punch: 1. You try imitating Ali's movements first, Try to lean far back, while moving backwards and than fire back a right, it's very difficult. 2. Liston was throwing this fight, When Clay hit him, he was gonna drop anyways. 3. Ali wasn't a powerful puncher, and Liston was, so with such a fast and not so powerful punch, at the time people didn't believe he actually, physically touched Liston.
RandomLevitation 1 month ago
@sugarlanskee8 And 4. He was yelling at him to get up cause he wanted the fight to continue, He knew Liston wasn't knocked out from that punch. It was a disgrace to boxing to get paid to step into the ring and fake a knockout. It was the speed of Clay that blew peoples minds, the only other person fast enough to recreate that is Mayweathers counter. There wasn't High Def slow mo in the 60's, So people thought he didn't even touch him, and that Clay was involved somehow. Guilty by association.
RandomLevitation 1 month ago
@RandomLevitation
Well, we have a strong circumstantial case against LBJ for Nov 22, 1963 and with Clay-Ali we have a large collection of questionable endings from Cooper I to Spinks II, 16 or 17, depending. Ali, because of doublethink, never caught on that when he was having an off-night, he was still protected. With Liston, we have a separate issue--possible dives. But we have less evidence than we do against LBJ for both Liston, no one caring at this point.
sugarlanskee8 1 month ago
@sugarlanskee8 This is boxing, this is a matter of facts, Its what you know, and what you can prove. Ali wasn't a cheater, some folks just cant hang with someone being the greatest. You asked, so I gave you an answer.
RandomLevitation 1 month ago
@RandomLevitation
The "Greatest"? You can't be the "greatest" when a fight is stopped on a cut that wasn't impairing the opponent, a glove is cut for you, you clutch, grab and wrestle but aren't dq'd, and get a basket full of decisions that should have gone against you. All these are added to the two Listons.
sugarlanskee8 1 month ago
@sugarlanskee8 You can be the greatest when you knock out Archie Moore and Floyd Patterson, When you beat Joe Frazier, when you knock out George Foreman. Nobody could beat Foreman, He was 40-0 and than Ali came and knocked him out.
Ali loses to Frazier. Frazier Loses to Foreman, Ali Beats Foreman, and than Frazier twice.
Thats why hes the greatest actually.
RandomLevitation 1 month ago
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RandomLevitation 1 month ago
it was no more than a baby tap. totally rigged fight. he just tapped him a little bit. fraud fake this proves it.
IkilledassholeJFK 1 month ago
@IkilledassholeJFK author brian tuohy who wrote 'the fix is in' will have this fight in his next book and has the fbi files proving this fight was fixed. now ali had no idea about it because outside of wrestling if something is fixed you don't want the winner to know.
rmgrowe1617 1 month ago
@rmgrowe1617 WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BOOK TO KNOW IT WAS A FIX. HE BARELY TOUCHED Him and if tht is not enough listons' fake-ass act rolling around getting up and falling back down is the worst acting in the history of the world. of course it was fixed - liston was mobbed up. ali knew he didn't hit him hard enough. of course ali knew. what's on the fbi files? tapes of the mafia? probably. so then why did they not prosecute? Oh yea - the taping was done illegally
IkilledassholeJFK 1 month ago
@IkilledassholeJFK He either hit him really hard or maybe liston quit because ali was just so dam fast
revelation6415 3 weeks ago
@revelation6415 wow - what a genius you are. how long did it take to figure that out? In other words- you don't have a fucking clue as to what happened. moron. obvioulsy liston quit moron - he rolls around in sucha totally fake way only a moron like youi wouldn't be able to figure it out. plus - the mob was bettingon him losing - he was all mobbed up.
IkilledassholeJFK 3 weeks ago
@IkilledassholeJFK That's exactly what I mean, I know liston took a dive but the punch was still hard and Ali is The Greatest What the Hell?
revelation6415 3 weeks ago
@IkilledassholeJFK
and the fact that the ref never even counted for liston
he just chased ali around the fucking ring
walmartian555 1 week ago
it was a legit KO
kdtrimble 1 month ago
@kdtrimble thank yu sum1 has sense people just cnt tke the fc t he was a great boxer nd did knok him out! maybe he didnt hit him as hard as he could buh if that happnd to any of us we would knok out withought A DOUBT!
MrSharky1108 1 month ago
right on the chin, it sent his brow back to front-ALI = GREATEST
dgoulster 1 month ago
you cant say how hard the punch was unless you are liston dont be fooled by what you see
2000reallife 2 months ago
wow in HD it becomes a lot clearer that there was actually a very solid blow... TIP: look at listons head! it does the wobble that you sometimes see with punches that land flush.
LIVINGONTHEDOLE 2 months ago
All right people, its like this. The punch WITHOUT a doubt HIT and HURT Liston. Thats out of the way, the only question is was it enough to really hurt Liston enough to knock him out? Its possible Liston just knew Ali was just way out of his league at that point and when he got hurt he just decided to give up. I do believe that's what happened.
NyyGyro 2 months ago 2
@NyyGyro
yeah, sounds likely
LIVINGONTHEDOLE 2 months ago
@NyyGyro At this time Liston had been involved with the Mafia and they must have told him to stay down. It may not have been true but i think thats the reason why he hung himself. It was a hard punch. Ali is my favouite fighter and this is one of my favourite fights but i still have doubts if Liston got told too loose or not
XxMRBOBBINSxX 1 week ago
@NyyGyro Out of his league? Are you kidding? Liston was bigger, stronger and more experienced. If it was a dive, it was orchestrated outside the ring.
longmind 1 week ago
@longmind Yes out of his league. Are you kidding for saying im kidding? Ali completely made Liston the baddest man on the planet submit in their first fight. It was no different in this one. Ali was too conditioned and too fast for him by now. He was hurt and just gave up most likely.
vladiator100 1 week ago
@NyyGyro Liston might have taken a dive because he could've bet against himself and he owed mafia a great deal of money at the time
2ty1234 4 days ago
@2ty1234 All the mafia themes are Speculations, speculations will be speculations. The punch clearly landed and hurt him, Liston might not have been hurt enough to be KO'd but he knew Ali was out of his league. Either way Ali clearly made the baddest man on earth look ordinary in their first fight. Liston was so frustrated he just quit in the 7th.
vladiator100 3 days ago
@vladiator100 agreed. in their first fight Ali really was in a different league than Liston and it clearly showed, in my opinion it's the best prime Ali fight. Ali's speed in that fight was astonishing.Oh and you should watch a documentary called "Facing Ali", in it George Foreman says that Liston was fighting only for money when he faced Ali for the second time and because of their first fight he knew he couldn't win so he took a dive right away.
2ty1234 2 days ago
liston went down because the mob told him to.Ali said he hit hard but not hard enough that he couldent get up
diesel5830 2 months ago
everyones a f ing critic, including me. Lol, clean legit ko watch sonnys entire body shake as he gets hit. surprising yes but a ko none the less
starae1 2 months ago
@starae1
lol come on man, the punch was thrown while Ali was leaping backward and almost doing a pirouette with his feet . Do you know anything about grounding your punches in Boxing? You can't throw an authoritative punch like that...and this is Sonny Liston.
periechontology 2 months ago
My first time actually seeing the punch not just pictures... I was shocked how hard it hit and it was right on the temple. It shook his equillibrium. Why couldn't this be a ko punch?
smallwhale1 2 months ago 28
@smallwhale1
Well because it was Ali (not known for power) Koing Liston (known for taking hellacious punches from real power punches) , and because of the ridiculous performance of Liston during the count and after.
Onieracraft 2 months ago
@smallwhale1 theres been a lot of speculation of the validity of this fight and the ko
dferhadi94 1 month ago
guys he did get knocked out it was was a punch liston didnt see coming and surprised him and its the one boxers dont see coming that always does the most damage.... just look at the way anderson silva knocks people out like this
monkeypoohonyou 2 months ago
I just watched the Movie (Phantom Punch) & i believe Liston gave up & couldnt do anything anyway even if he did get up. I mean, even Ali threw another punch after the Phantom Punch becos he knew it was B.S & stood over Liston in anger
HorssingIT 2 months ago
he looks like Christiano Ronaldo in this clip
baroh2413 2 months ago
the punch had no power behind it, its an arm punch
i think liston was just staggered by ali's speed and dominance he just gave up
toby099 2 months ago
It's called and anchor punch. Liston may have milked the the amount of damage that it did because he wanted out, but that was no phantom shot.
youngunzvt 2 months ago
goat stands for greatest of all time bro.
diesel5830 2 months ago
Threw or N0t...
S0nny kn0w that he cannot defeat the GOAT...
if he didn't threw it, hes gonna be KO'd in any round...
thumbs up if im correct...! no 0ne will defeat ALI the GOAT...!
kimmo300 2 months ago
@kimmo300
The goat?
his nickname was the greatest
though he said in an interview that Allah is the greatest did he not?
Y0UNGMU5L1M 2 months ago
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kimmo300 2 months ago
Its not the power that put him down it was the quickness. SPEED KILLS
lMsouthpaw 2 months ago
dayyyuuumm, Thats FAST! lightening reflexes. It was so fast ppl still debating it today Lol
mgs54 2 months ago
beautiful.
forza1992 2 months ago
If you watch closely you will notice that Liston was moving forward at the time the punch landed. Most knockouts occur when the fighter who gets hit is moving into the punch. When you add the weight and momentum of a fighter moving into a punch it dramatically increases the destructive power of that punch. The punch also landed cleanly on the temple - another factor in producing a knockout.
JessicaMederson 2 months ago
@JessicaMederson
if you watch closely you'll see the punch was arm punch, ali did not set his full weight behind the punch which dramatically reduces the power
toby099 2 months ago
@toby099 Actually you can see Ali's calf flex right before the punch, there was power, accuracy, and one hell of a counter.
JPMusiclife 2 months ago
phantom?? did u see listons jaw move a few inches over? lol thats a ko baby
palatialregalia88 2 months ago
I don't think the punch was all that hard actually
Nicar526 2 months ago
@Nicar526 In boxing the punch doesn't necessarily have to be thrown hard it just has to be sound mechanically, and accurate. If you at Ali's body @ 0:06 he's rotated his right hip forward and is in full extension on the toes of his right foot. That movement along with the placement (on the end of the chin) & timing (countering a jab...Liston didn't even see it) is enough to KO anyone. You can Also see the ripple go down Liston's back due to the impact of the punch. Ali hit him flush lol
cbcw24 2 months ago
Isn't this called a pull counter now?
joshshing609 2 months ago
if you look at his bicep and peck, you can see the strength in that little punch he threw, his entire arm and peck ripple back and forward when he throws the punch @ 0:04 clearly a legit hit and not a thrown fight
TheTHCNetwork 2 months ago
someone just traveled back in time and filmed the fight with a 13000 dollar high speed camera
MJ4everTheKing 2 months ago
KO controversy aside, this clip does show what made Ali a truly great athlete, his speed and elusiveness.
GuppyOdyssey 2 months ago
My grandfather would never say such a thing. Mr. Ali and Sonny were best friends. If he did say something like that I'd like to see it. You have to understand that everything that was said was post and pre-fight propaganda. My grandmother Geraldine Liston called Mr. Ali Cassius Clay until the day she died. I will reveal a lot of this in my upcoming book.
calista2000 2 months ago
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calista2000 2 months ago
wow, never seen the slow mo before. I always thought it looked fishy but that it was possible it was a knockout because Liston didn't see it coming and we all know that is the punch that knocks you out. After seeing the slow mo, that would have been a KO even if Liston saw it coming. That is the full force of Ali right to the temple. Greatest boxer who ever lived.
dog987us 2 months ago
Not taking any sides , but its looks like a total legit knockout punch , you could see the impact and force , also sonny was walking towards him when he got hit which makes a huge difference in force.
DuggyJ027 2 months ago
aint no phantom punch
0engima0 2 months ago 29
Liston DIVES. If you really love boxing, do some reaserch on these two great fighters. Fixed or not (high chance it was) Sonny threw it. i think! yes it was a hard punch that i think knocked sonny down but no way OUT. just watch the whole fight and it looks like he threw it. greatest fighters tho, love um both.
ayresy89 3 months ago
@ayresy89 Ali told his corner man Liston threw the fight ...abdul rahman was his name i believe Ali,,,alot people won't admit it cause it takes away from the Ali legend ..Liston had death threats media hated him till ali turned muslim, malcom x just been killed, .,,he didnt need it,,leotis martin is only man to ever ko Liston a old sonny,knocked him cold ,,no rolling arnd like a bad actor,with ali screaming at him to get his ass up.
theirishbloke 3 months ago
@theirishbloke exactly! "get up bear, nobody will belive this" liston told forman he was boxing strickly for money, he didn't care, liston knew he'd still be top ranked fighter if he threw it. everyone thought liston would kill ali in this one too, so liston to loose in first round. mob! big money!? black muslims dont want ali losing, hes great for there publicity! oh and wasn't malcom x taken out by the black muslims? feared group at the time -----
ayresy89 3 months ago
------ like i said, fixed or not, liston wasn't going to chase ali around and hit nothing all night
ayresy89 3 months ago
Liston was known to have an iron chin. His only lose before Ali was a 10rd (I forget to who) decision because his jaw was broke. This was a dive. Ali suspected something was up. You can tell in the famous picture of him standing over Sonny.
M14Mann 3 months ago
he got stuck.... end of story
Snod323 3 months ago
This was more of a mental KO than a physical one. The punch clearly landed but if Liston had wanted to continue he could have. Sonny stayed down because he didn't care anymore and he knew he would mostly lose if he got up to fight longer.
BbClarinet3 3 months ago
Press 6 for an epic chest jiggle. :)
Mrkickassish 3 months ago
that legit sonny is just embarrassed that he get ko
but the dive theory might be correct. but im sticking with the first one.
sehun123 3 months ago
Glad I watched this because I never believed it was a proper punch but I do now !!
b44ts 3 months ago
he definitely landed, and it probably rang listons bell but he stayed down because he knew if he got up it would only get worse.
devpoke513 3 months ago
0:04 clearly shows the connection
DanEvPro 3 months ago
Yup, Liston dived. No point in making excuses just to give Ali yet another win he didn't deserve. Ali beat him once anyway.
Shirishama1 3 months ago
y wud liston take a dive? guarntee i can prove any1 wrong
australiafinest 3 months ago
Right. How many other guys did Ali knock out with one punch? Probably none.
Liston wasn't interested in taking another beating and who could blame him.
46spoony 3 months ago
great punch that i think did knock liston down but not a KO! liston took a dive. that was not a ko punch he took (the first good punch of the fight) if it was not fixed then liston took a dive. think about it. who was Clay here, the champ, who was he involved with? the black muslims! liston - ex champ, strong conection with the mob, everyone thought liston was still gonna kill clay and so if liston tokk a dive it really didn't matter cos he'd always be the top right! i think dive.
ayresy89 3 months ago
Another fake video by the same guys who did the moon landing in 1969 . . .
greenrate 3 months ago
@greenrate lol people like you make me laugh....even when a slow motion image of the fight shown you still believe in all your bullshit conspiracy theories
BlackLabelForLife 3 months ago
This is similar to the punch that KO'd Forrest Griffin when he fought Silva. I remember watching the replay of that one and thinking "that looked really weak", but in reality it's just a very quick forceful punch just like this one by Ali.
o0Slickman0o 3 months ago
HE CLEARLY HITS HIM IN THE FUCKING TEMPLE WITH THE RIGHT JAB before whiffing with the left cross, and Liston was already going down before he whiffed.
WHERE'S THE CONTROVERSY!? ALI IS THE GREATEST BOXER EVER, SO FUCK YOU!
WrecklessRecluse 3 months ago
It's legit! When I watched the fight back then, I was sure it was a fake, but it's a real, hard punch. Watch Liston's ribcage and head. I think it took him by surprise, but that's not Ali's fault. If he then decided to have an easy payday and STAY down, that's not Ali's fault either. Ali, though, should have been in the neutral corner. Bad officiating by Jersey Joe (who probably was still tuning up his mind).
MDBellamy 3 months ago
His head snapped it's clearly legit.
gapemy115 3 months ago
I dont get how people think it was faked. I saw the fight and the first time i saw the punch i already knew it was a real punch. But Ali must have been stronger then i thought to have knocked out someone with a punch at that angle
Speargate888 3 months ago
The punches that will K.O you aren't necessarily the strongest, they're the ones that are precise and that you don't see.
This punch clearly connected right on the chin and Liston didn't see it at all.
SteroidsMakeMeStrong 3 months ago
How Strong was that punch
aPinar1 3 months ago
Regardless of whether or not the punch was good enough to knock Liston out, i'm pretty sure Ali would've beaten if liston had continued to fight.
theajroseshow 3 months ago
Liston was throwing awful punches in this fight... Well atleast ali was making em look awful
N1ghtstar4 3 months ago
good solid punch, enough to put sonny down, not to stop him, i just think he gave up because Ali was humiliating him
rugbylover95 3 months ago
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cakeplox 3 months ago
the dislikes are favorited of sonny liston lol
supertek10 4 months ago
There's no question that Ali didn't but him to sleep.
Buuaaaaa 4 months ago
Ali connected. LIston took the shot. The fact that he was on his hands coming down, his eyes were clear and he looked very conscious, he just simply gave up.
aky19832001 4 months ago
Ali sent the shockwave of doom down Liston's back!
DICACIO1 4 months ago
I came here to see if it was faked or not, believing it probably was. Liston later said he faked it to a reporter. Now I realize, it was definitely a short, legit punch Liston didn't see. I call this KO legit. The reason Liston later lied about throwing the fight is obvious. It's a lot easier to say "Yah, I threw the fight..that bum could never have beaten me legitimately" rather than say "The kid Ko'd me."
roddiero 4 months ago 36
@roddiero Exactly. Frankly, you couldn't believe a 100% what Liston ever said because the guy was a druggie.
thegiftedmedia 3 months ago
@thegiftedmedia stop it you know the mafia set him up because they told him to take a fall
trevanismith 3 months ago
@trevanismith I don't know for sure. I can only comment on evidence. And from the video I see that was a legit punch.
thegiftedmedia 3 months ago
its not that Ali didnt connect, everybody knows Ali connected. Its that Liston could easily have gotten up but chose not to even Ali said Liston took a dive. There were meetings between the muslim camp and Liston after the Malcolm X assassination that Ali was the next target and that it was followers of Liston that had something to do with it and that Liston was afraid of being shot or hurt and wanted out of the ring as quickly as possible, then again maybe he was just old and wanted out fast
estafuego8807 4 months ago
how can you not see listons head bobble when he connects?
vutnukka 4 months ago
I watched the fight in my parents' kitchen, and saw no punch, and always thought it was fixed. This is the first time I've seen this video, and I'm fascinated to see that there was a pretty hard punch delivered. If this is the camera view used for television, then I can see how the punch could be missed/camouflaged. Watching it a few times I can see that Clay did have his right foot set. Liston's head did shake from the blow. Also the shot was on Liston's left side, maybe on his temple.
Photorayyy 4 months ago
Chuck Norris once challenged Muhammad Ali to a boxing match ....Ali won by humiliation
MJRiley878 4 months ago
makeup match
7ELTERRIBLE7 4 months ago
That was a KO punch if there ever was one. That had MEGA force behind it. The sholder is just right. The presentaion is perfect. I'd hated to been Sonny that night. OUCH!
GCL777 4 months ago
Wow do I get flashbacks of this when watching Anderson Silva fight
macc8706 4 months ago
I agree with dorsa here. L just lost heart. The punch itself was not sufficient. 1. L no longer felt invulnerable. 2. The postponement (A's hernia) definitely aged him. 3. After the minute or so before the knockout L must have felt it was hopeless and there was no point in putting up a fight. Although the odds still favored L it's hard to see the advantage in L taking a dive in this fight but not the first one. L couldn't even keep up with Leotis Martin, much less Ali.
Richard40171 4 months ago
The overhand right is a basic defense against a single left jab but it has to be delivered quick. No problem for Ali who delivered it to perfection! The disparaging title "phantom punch" is a credit to Ali's amazing speed! The knockdown was genuine but I honestly believe that Liston could have beaten the count - he just didn't want to get up and face Ali. In the first fight it took Ali a couple of rounds to get confortable with Liston. But Sonny knew Ali had him from the bell in this one.
dorsal08 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin anyone?
pwilliams360 4 months ago
look how liston's head crumbled..
coolmartcola 4 months ago
that was CONTACT!!! fair dinkum you could see the ripple move through their bodies. it even showed up in Liston's lat. it must have flaming hard!
mrbishi1000 4 months ago
@mrbishi1000 Wow, good eye Mrbishi! I always saw Liston's head snap but missed the ripple effect in his lats.
dorsal08 4 months ago
Ali hit him so fast, that he didnt even see it himself
LKTracks 4 months ago
Get up, you bum, no one's gonna believe this.
The punch may have knocked Sonny down, but he sure as hell didn't try very hard to get up.
46spoony 4 months ago
@46spoony spot on.
ayresy89 3 months ago
i didnt know before that black and white camera have HD. haha
rugbyboyko 4 months ago
You can see Liston's head snap back and shudder.
deepcosmiclove 4 months ago
great video quality!
kirby7979 4 months ago 10
Larrywheels. .. Simmer down you spastic , every fighter , big or strong doesn't matter , from a small quick punch your are screwed and the fact listen thought he went for Ali and missed the momentum forward and the beautiful right Is more head fucking then and hard punch u can see coming . Ali owned him .. Far too quick !
calbo999 5 months ago
Exactly like the punch that Klitschko KOed Solis with. Liston coming forward like Solis, with lead foot off the ground like Solis, Ali and Klitschko counter with a right hand to the temple. Impact is due to both men's weight and forward motion.
huraha96704 5 months ago
Would Liston have faked a punch that had no view?
No, it was a strange angle punch, and not one Liston would have taken a dive on.
theloosegoose333 5 months ago
@theloosegoose333 liston was owned by the mob, neverknow if did dive. does look like it stung a little
advent8888888888 5 months ago
@advent8888888888 You sound like a man who's never been in a ring or hit by a solid punch in your life.
tunalik 5 months ago
@tunalik whys that? and i have fought a lot, had 150 amatuer fights, box for forces. signnig off by january and getting my pro licence. u sound like a man that needs a fucking slap
advent8888888888 4 months ago
@advent8888888888
I call BS! I can understand how a prissy girl could mistake what she see's in this video as something other than a straight up knockout but not someone who's stepped into the ring. If you can't tell that is enough force to knockout any man alive then you are just short of retarded.
tunalik 4 months ago
@tunalik like i said, never know if he did take a dive, ''DOES look like it stung a little'' u fucking muppet haha, who are u bert sugar? not that much weight behind it at all, just a normal right hand lead of alis
advent8888888888 4 months ago
@advent8888888888 ..listen dude...go watch his knockout of Zora Folley..its the same punch.....go find it..its right here...watch Skills, Brains and Guts Muhammed Ali
Brezinski1000 4 months ago
@advent8888888888
You are blind. You can see the force of the punch in every square inch of both of their bodies. How stupid can you be?
tunalik 4 months ago
in "Facing Ali", the documentary, Foreman said Liston threw the fight, Ali is to cocky to be involved in a set up like that, he had already won the olympics, why would he set up Sonny if he knew he could beat him.
RandomLevitation 5 months ago
punch to the head , but i think liston ( nick ) is heart for that punch
bethoveenzeyad 5 months ago
All These Comments Arent About Boxing SO Fuck Off, That Was A Beautiful Overhand Right!
TooFocus 5 months ago
There is a head jerk !
TomSolivin 5 months ago
listen was hit by bigger punches than that -ali never planted his feet, the shot was clean , but not a knock out punch. the word was that the fight was going to be a stink job-fixed. vegas boxing comm art laurie told me that he lobbied to not have the fight in vegas. gov grant sawyer wanted it in vegas,but art threatened to resign. the fight was held in a high school gym in lewiston maine. can you figurre it out now???-ali was still the- underdog-boxing and the underworld were in bed.
larrywheels 5 months ago