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  • I keep hearing not to do cardio on this...is there truth behind this...on Jan 12 I was 265 now I'm 238...my Target is 180 by may or June...I haven't been supplementing at all just diet and cardio, now the losses are slowing down, think this will help?

  • hey hey! Have you heard about - fast abs magic (do a google search)? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my mate got great Six pack abs and lost a ton of weight with it.

  • Oh and also never do cardio on it or High intensity while on it because your heart rate will go up to high and its very risky, weight lifting is ok because while it does raise the heart rate, its not for as long because you have rest in between sets

  • Ok for everyone doing this stack it wud be best to take of the asprin and only use the caf, also u hav to be smart about it and research the doses, people died because they didnt research and would do over doses which is obviously bad. If u take to much of any drug its obviously terrible. Look up starting doses and slowly up the dose but never exeed 25mg of ephedine and 200 caf.

    Also ephedrine sulfate is less powerfull than ephedrine hcl so adjust accordingly.

  • I have been trying it for a month now-none of my clothes fit this really works. I look freakn awesome

  • Hey thanks for the video.... I'm already taking a thermogenic (REFINE) how many pills of bronkaid should I take with it? I know Bronkaid says 25mg of ephedra so I just wanna figure out how many milligrams is good a day at one time... thanks a bunch!

  • Kids dying in their sleep...exactly. KIDS. FDA took it off because it works, It's not the compounds themselves that are harmful It's because stupid people do stupid things, plain and simple.

  • ECA Fucking Works. 1 No Doz 1 Asprin 1 Bronkaid, 1 Time a Day All 3 Works For Me

  • asprin is really bad for you man

  • imma take JUST 2 or 3 pills of bronkaid and call it a day . i dont trust eca and all those stacker 2 pills

  • Kids where dying in there sleep because of that drug that's why the F.D.A. took it off the market

  • hey hey! Have you ever tried intellectus 424 diet (do a search on google)? Ive heard some unbelivable things about it and my cousin lost a lot of weight with it.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK OF CLENBUTEROL IS THAT BETTER THAN THIS STACK?

  • @strengthcamp - excedrin is just caffeine, aspirin and low dose tylenol - you could take that instead of the eca with the bronkaid.

  • will this stack help get rid of gyno ?

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  • hey big fan hear! Did you tell the pharmacist that you were using it for weight loss or did you say it was for asma

  • @TDSD1 no, they never asked...

  • Yo Elliott,

    Is pseudoephedrine gonna give me the same benefit as Ephedra???

    Thanks for all the vids, really good stuff, keep it up.

  • @onetao8 Nope, I thought the same thing(looking at a commercial decongestant). Ephedrine HCL is by far and away worth it. Just go to a website that would be similar to drug-store(.com) and you can find it. really cheap, only downside is that you have to fax/scan your drivers license.

  • Primatene vs Bronkaid

    Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.

    Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.

    25 mg ephedrine HCl = 20.5 mg ephedrine

    25 mg ephedrine sulfate = 19.25 mg ephedrine

  • Hey Elliot what do you think of the effect of this supplement on the adrenal glands?!

    Do you believe that too much use of caffeine and ephedrine leads to adrenal burn out and therefore lead to poor hormone control?

  • Ephedrine is the base product for amphetamines i.e speed/meth etc, it may be a great fat burner and no disrespect to those who choose to use this as an aid but if HEALTH (not asthetics or performance) is your main goal it may be unwise to take this product in large amounts or for extended periods of time if at all (go have a look on google of the effects of taking this drug in excess). I love your vids elliot, and your a wealth of knowledge but i just thought i would add that!

  • Yo, Elliot, it seems like you are unclear on, or haven't made clear, the difference between ephedra and ephedrine. One contains an unregulated amount of the other, and THAT'S why it was banned, because 50 mg of ephedra could contain 50 mg of ephedrine and cause some problems, or 5 mg of ephedrine and do nothing. If you wouldn't mind clearing this up for all the kids who look to you for advice first, I'd appreciate it.

  • How much do i take a week/day? what times do I take it? How long do I take it?

  • @onxy2011 25mg 3x a day at max, start off once daily, then twice, then if your good go up to 3x a day. morning, 4 hours later, then 4 hours later..good dosing is 200mgC/25mgE

  • I respect the hell out of you Elliot. You aren't afraid to talk about stuff that others are. You know what you're talking about. You actually advocate real spiritual strength.

    Keep it up man.

  • sounds good but does anyone know if u will lose muscle doing this?

  • Also - for those who think this isn't safe....NOTHING taken in excess is terribly safe! I'm tired of people dogging this stack. I've taken it for years with no serious side effects (yes, you can feel your heart rate speed...hello, it's a thermogenic!) It can make you jittery because of the caffeine, but I also drink coffee so double whammy. I take it ONLY before I work out - longer, easier workouts and no appetite afterwards. AWESOME!!! Your body can grow accustomed, so cycle 2wk on, 2 off.

  • the only reason in america that people might have to buy Bronkaid (or whichever ephedrine HCL product chosen) is because too many people are now buying this to make METH! It's asthma med for crying out loud so you do NOT need a prescription. YES, you need all three of the stack - "E" alone will work but exponentially better with the "C" and "A". 25mg E, 200mg C and a baby aspirin. (I take either a baby aspirin or a standard, but the baby size is all that's needed).

  • Hey

    Today i went to different pharmacy`s asking for ``bronchodialator``

    (aka ``bronkaid``)

    They all rejected me saying i needed a prescription.

    Then i went to herc`s and got ephedrine hcl!?

    It`s legal because its a 3rd its normal size (which is 25mg)

    and because they dont associate it with fat burners.

    On the bottle it reads Oral Nasal Congestant.

    Btw im in Canada .

    Cheers.

  • I've heard of some people using albuterol or clenbuterol for burning fat.......supposedly it's much better than the eca stack, but i wonder how safe these methods are.

  • SO, just one bronkaid with 1 caffeine pill and 1 aspirin perday?? When do you take it in the morn in the afternoon? I'd like to give it a try I've taken oxy elite and it worked but i felt like it burned a little bit of muscle and 2 much water weight along the way

  • Screw consuming a healthy diet. There's nothing healthier than consuming aspirin and medication for asthma everyday. A low body fat percentage is far more important than a healthy liver.

  • @Diddle1414 Obviously its taken with a well balanced diet, before taking any supplements one should have a perfect diet, secondly doctors recommend taking aspirin daily to prevent heart disease, and the worst side effect of bronkaid is a tie between a headache and trouble sleeping.

  • @NJnaturalBB No, doctors don't recommend taking aspirin daily to prevent heart disease, they recommend people with high blood pressure take aspirin because most people are too lazy to make proper dietary changes to save their lives. If you're living a healthy lifestyle, you shouldn't need to take anything. Some adverse effects of bronkaid have been tremors, aspiration, hypertension, and myocardial infarction to name just a few. Having healthy lungs and taking meds for them, that's smart.

  • @Diddle1414 Either way, have I experienced any side effects, in the 4-5 years I been using ECA? Nope.

  • @NJnaturalBB Well if you haven't noticed anything I guess nothing is wrong then. After all, diseases happen immediately or not at all. It's not so as though something like liver cirrhosis goes unnoticed after years of abusing something. It's not like people eat fast food for years and slowly develop clogged arteries without realizing there's a problem....

    Keep calling taking a drug you don't need healthy living, I really don't give a sh_t.

  • you can get it on amazon . com  also. mine just showed up today

  • Hey dude, is it true that the thermogenic fat burners like oxy elite pro from ups labs burn muscle along with the fat ?

  • so true about the FDA

  • I just asked my local walmart what their rule is for getting bronkaid... they just said I had to be 18..that's literally it.

  • Would this be a good thing to do if your also trying to gain and build muscle at the same time, due to the supressing appetite effect of the ECA stuff?

  • Glad you said the truth about the corrupt pharma companies

  • Dude are you seriously telling people to take random respiratory drugs for fat loss?

    Wow man come on.

  • YO Alliot!!!!!??? why not take some illegal stuff right away? why have some problems over some stuf that works, but lets say not as good as juice?

  • ECA used to kick ass man ! Its funny how as soon as they pull ephedra from the market 93% of Americans balloon up to fat slobs. I also hear primateen mist (non-endorsement/plug) does the same trick.

  • cant buy ephedra cuz its dangerous........

  • Our supplement stores in canada all sell ephedrine hcl without a prescription, you can buy a bundle of 12 bottles of the stuff at a time lol. The bottles come full of 50 8mg tablets.

  • double burgers dipped in gravy lol

  • Just wanted to add this for anyone looking for more in depth information.

    w w w.hotnfit. com/ecstack.htm

  • The real reason they removed ephedra/ephedrine from the market is because it is used as a precursor to crystal meth.

  • Nothing like misusing the word "hack" to get you extra hits.

  • your the best

  • Are there any good fat burners with NO caffeine? Caffeine gives me massive headaches. So I can't have caffeine.

  • kewl stuff thanks elliot

  • Thanx know can you tell me how to make drugs out of house hold items

  • AHAHAHAHAHA Gestapo

  • you'll end up like "trent from punchy"

  • ephedra (ephedrine), Pseudoephedrine, regular use is bad for the heart. i had a friend do some jail time for trying to bring a suitcase full of cold medicine(containing psudoephedrine) from bali to australia. also three other friends take a whole packet of cold medicine each and then have a mild trip.

    i'm sure it's the shit the bikies cook up to make ice/crystal meth. i'm also sure it's would be considered "performance enhancing".

    Yo Elliot, be careful what you recommend.

  • I believe that there are still places online that you can get ephedrine hcl from. From what I understand, ephedrine hcl is actually better than ephedrine sulfate, effect wise.

  • @coke2590 cool, thanks for the heads up man, i'll look into it.

  • Will this affect my muscle gains? my primary concern is to get stronger, but who needs fat I guess

  • Yo Elliot, can you explain how to take creatine? And are there any alternatives for ECA?

  • welcome to 2004

    aware

  • I fucking love you.

  • off the rocker? haha

  • FDA motherfuckers, I swear man, it seems like everywhere you look the government is screwing you over.

  • Double burgers dipped in gravy....lmao.....

  • couldnt you just take a cafine pill asprin and the bronkaid..... why do you need the eca?

  • @RuggedRam73ECA at 25mg,200mg,100mg respectively no more than 3 times a day

  • @RuggedRam73 yea, you can do that... i just happened to have the bottle of ECA so I use it for convenience.

  • Hey Eliot, what dosage would you recommend?

  • good video homie.

  • what about oxyelite pro?

  • @rammajamma1993 I can tell you from personal experience that this stuff works. Now, I can't honestly tell you which ingredient ACTUALLY makes it awesome, but it worked well for me. I was able to still eat enough to keep up with my lifting and muay thai. I'm pretty excited to cycle back on in a few months.

  • @imthamouth hows your diet?

  • @rammajamma1993 My diet is almost like the Skinny Guy mass building diet Elliott recently outlined. I eat a lot of eggs, chicken breast, fish (mostly tuna, but I but some fresh too), a large salad everyday, and a TON of brown rice. A heavy diet, but very clean. I took OEP for 3 months, and the first month was all dieting though, with the same foods in much smaller portions. I lost 14 pounds in the first month, and 26 in the total 3.

  • @imthamouth damn man thats awesome how much weight did you start with before using oep. and do you keep eating lots of protein when you want to lose weight when using this product (hope this makes sense).

  • @rammajamma1993 Sure. I started at 208. And yeah, I always eat a good amount of protein, because I'm always lifting weights. I lifted lighter when I was trying to really lose weight, but still heavy enough that I was concerned with recovery. I just Lowered the fats (not too much, but I usually have a LOT), and cycled my carbs based on my lifting days. If you are sure a fat burner is what you want / need, I'd strongly recommend OEP. If you get from a site like Vitacost, it's pretty affordable.

  • "then they scan your license just to make sure your not making like crack or something" lol

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  • yo elliot!

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  • So you have to take both??? Why can't you just take the Bronkaid??? Seems like it could get a little pricey buying both. Thanks. U da man.

  • @yyportne you can just get caffeine pills and aspirin to add... i just happen to have a bottle of ECA, so I just use it.

  • Back in the day I used to love ephedra. I had Stacker 2. Right before it became illegal (because some fat out of shape dehydrated pitcher died on a hot day during practice and everyone made a big friggin deal out of nothing) I bought a bunch of bottles. All of a sudden people where offering me $5 a pill. I never sold them because I wanted them for myself lol. Besides they where going to mix them with alcohol (the other main reason they got banned) which is abuse not use. Great video.

  • Any ideas for alternatives available in the UK?

  • @cozmoz365 sudafed dude,.. the red ones,. dont try to buy too many beacause they make meth from them by extracting the eph so just get when you run out, dont buy in bulk! lol peace!......

  • @djntwelveinch Thanks dude, I'll look into this.

  • Yo Elliott! What do you think about CLA Flat Belly? It claims to reduce body fat

  • @ivanace123

    Are you that dumb? really that crap sucks, the only real stuff out there is the ECA stack, you can make your own stack. at the end is up to you to decide.

  • Love all your vids your the best thanks man.

  • how do fat burners work? is it like a metabolism booster?

  • @WhatIsItToBurn your heart rate goes faster.. thats all

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