Schumacher vs Alonso green light (Monaco GP 2010)

[fasfsfetat]

The rule was unclear - Alonso should've been given back the position and Schumacher should have been put back to where he was, but no stupid penalty. It's the FIA's fault, not Schumi's or Fernando's.

[schumihugo]

Hamilton's Fault



[xRapidClaWx]

Isn't this like the first time Schumacher exploited the rule and lost?

[dobakito44]

its pretty clear cut, from a regulation standpoint, that this was completely legal. the only possible explination that the stewards should have is it was comonly thought at this point that there was no overtaking allowed. but still, the regulations allowed for this to happen at the time. schumi shouldnt have been penalised.

[4evermassa]

only schumy can pull off something like this :D

[gatonegro6]

illegal maneuver, was punished for it

[alexandertrefz]

@gatonegro6 No you idiot, he was punished by Hill, for beeing way better than him.

[gatonegro6]

ningun piloto podria adelantar en ese momento ya que el final de esa carrera fue con Sadety Car. si te fijas TODOS los pilotos van uno detras del otro. y el Shumi de listo adelanta. pues por saltarse NUEVAMENTE las normas, fue sancionado con 5 posiciones

[hunt2727]

@gatonegro6 lo siento, clásico error.

ves las banderas verdes. Schumacher podía adelantar. De hecho lo hizo y ganó la posición legalmente, gran adelantamiento.

Lee los comentarios de la gente en este video y te querará más claro.

Los ignorantes tipo Lobato ni se dieron cuenta y mintieron una vez más.

es muy triste que mucha gente que odia a Schumacher no tenga idea de formula 1.

schumacher, NUEVAMENTE, por no hacer nada ilegal, se busca el odio de los mediocres.

Schumacher the BEST!!

[4evermassa]

this can only be done by schumacher.... its clear, fantastic....

[cyanide02]

If I had a pound for every pixel in this video... i'd have a pound.

[chapmana22]

FIA - Ferrari International Assistance...

[SupaSix1]

Its typical of the FIA really...when a driver cleverly exposes a loophole within the rules....the FIA feel like clowns afterwards and change their rules & punish.

It happened with Hamilton in Malaysia 2010....there is nothing in the rules about weaving and Lewis very cleverly tried to break petrov's tow.

..they still reprimanded Lewis and punished him this year for that move last year.

FIA are a bunch of spastics.

Drivers like Schumacher & Hamilton are the class acts of F1.

[Lemon0Tart]

@SupaSix1 Hamiliton is not a class act, hes an egotistical dick. Shummy is still a joy to watch though.

[ErosaScuderia]

How is he egotistical? Stop talking.

[Lemon0Tart]

@ErosaScuderia have u ever watched his interviews? His attitude just annoys the shit out of me sometimes.

[ErosaScuderia]

Not egotistical, just whiny.

[alexandertrefz]

@SupaSix1 it more the bastard Hill, then the IFA. Although i agree that the FIA is not much better than Hill.

[redupfox]

Schumi was definitely in a hurry to have a pee. That's why he was so quick to get to the pits ahead of Fernando:-)))))))))

[jLantxa]

@redupfox Best explanation ever. WIN.

[Jedontrack]

This shouldn't be called schumi vs alonso it should be called schumi vs FIA

[Straatmaan]

If you are a F1 Driver, you must know all rules ;)

[G0007]

@Straatmaan it's not their job

[meinaim]

folks, it´s not the green light it´s the safty car LINE. After crossing this line he was allowed to overtake.

[mllpursall]

schumy with 42 is much better than alonso in 2005/06.

[argoHUN]

Schumacher is so much better... :)

[095CAL]

Don't actually like Schumacher but seeing this put a huge smile on my face :)

[maskmanyeah]

ferrari gonna cursed cause of this :(

[ididi9]

I thought that he got punished for not braking the rules it was found

[TheFelix1703]

nigel mansell hates german guys so he said that the overtake was illegal.

[beyblader10171]

if that was hamilton in schumachers place in this video then hamilton would have got 10 penalties and abuse from the spanish fans, but because its schumacher, nothing

[TheLewisRedshaw]

@beyblader10171 well said!

[zabraoota1]

@beyblader10171 you have no idea what u r talking about and i'm guessing that you never watched the race. you r just a schumi hater, hahaha. schumi did get penalised you noob!!

[beyblader10171]

@zabraoota1

oh not you again? you claim that i havent watched a race. ive already told you in the past its the other way round with now watching races !

i do know that he did get penalised, i did it purposely to wind up people like you :D :D

[zabraoota1]

@beyblader10171 yes me again hahaaaa, but no i said " u never watched THE race not A race"

Shumi is the best!!

[beyblader10171]

@zabraoota1

schumi is rubbish, beaten by rosberg last season and this season rosberg is beating him on points ! LOL not to mention ross brawn are designing the car to suit michael and he still cant beat rosberg LMAO

[samsemtex]

@beyblader10171 AAh the usual anti schumacher moron. Rosberg is 4 points head of Michael, big deal. Michael is 42 years old and past his peak. He has also had more bad luck with reliability and accidents than Rosberg. So if anything Nico should be a lot further ahead than he is. And where are you getting this crap about Mercedes designing the car for him and not Nico? Please show me one shred of evidence for this. If they are why does Rosberg outqualify him most of the time? Idiot.

[beyblader10171]

@samsemtex

yeah but you people consider him 'the greatest' and the worlds best driver, if thats the case, he should be thrashing rosberg.

being 42 years old is no disadvantage as he still has the mental and physical strength.

[samsemtex]

@beyblader10171 If it is no disadvantage why do all sports players go downhill after they hit 40? In physical sports the answer is obvious as its because they arent as strong/quick anymore. If this is the only thing that causes themto lose an edge then why do snooker players stop performing once they get into their 40s? Its a completely non physical sport yet greats like Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry arent as good as they were when they were younger. Explain how age makes no difference please.

[Phoenix1664]

@beyblader10171 Rosberg has always been a good qualifier, hes reknowned for it though his career. However you will notice that Rosberg sometimes struggles for race pace, and shumi quite often catches him up and challenges him during a race, also since his return shumi has been the best starter on the grid by a mile! Also, in 2010 the car was designed for Button lol. Funny thing is, i used to hate shumi/ferrari in his glory days, but since his comeback ive really been rooting for him. Wierd lol

[beyblader10171]

@Phoenix1664

admitingly ive always never really liked schumi, he's tactics in particular, but even if he doesn't succeeed, i still in a sense, enjoy him because he adds excitement to the sport which is good. especially recently

[TBListener]

I can't believe it! Schumacher passes him. I celebrate it.

3 hours later Schumacher got a penalty -.-

Ferrari sucks!!!

[vvalls00]

schumacher can´t pass him because it was the last lap and if the last lap finishes with safety car overtaking is forbidden :)

[KillBillVaggeli13]

@vvalls00 this is in nascar

[mrbtree]

@vvalls00 thats if the race finishes under safety car they can still race from the safety car line to the start/finish

[Phoenix1664]

Schumacher deserved that position, Ferrari say they knew the rule and thats why Alonso didnt defend, when really we all know that Ferrari though the race was back on and fernando was just caught napping by schumi. Everybody did, because they all raced to the line. That rule was fucking stupid, and to be honest, he only got fucked for it was because Damon Hill was the race steward at this race, he saw the oppertunity to get one over michael. I might be English, but i was never a Hill fan...

[darthbandon10]

@Phoenix1664 He advised the panel, but the locals had the final say.

[TheKingzOfKomedy]

Prime example of why we have Ferrari Intenational Assistance in charge of this sport

[ale03000]

Schumacher passed Alonso's Ferrari with such a slow car and Alonso cried after that LOL :].

[leprakiraly]

F1 is not perfect ,soory for Schumaher

[Ramses5191]

фук you gp 

[regismo]

But article 40.13 is clear. Not in last lap.

[schuf1]

@regismo

That rule didn't exist when Schumacher made the move, though. According to 40.7 Schumacher could overtake after the SC line (which he did), but 40.13 made no mention of it being disallowed.

The rule was changed later, which was pretty hypocritical.

[Sheraad190]

@schuf1

beacause Damon Hill was a stewart at the monaco GP

[darthbandon10]

@Sheraad190 He was an advisor to the stewards, he didn't vote on the decision.

[M1N1K0B3]

@regismo It is clear... But since Schumacher saw green, he took a chance.

And that is why i will always think of Schumcaher as a great driver...

[SennaHamilton4ever]

@M1N1K0B3 plz, shut up! an experienced driver like Michael should know that he cant overtake in a safety car period!

[TheDrCoxie]

@SennaHamilton4ever moron ofc he knows that, he also knows you have to overtake in order to get ahead, which he tried.

[SchumiSutil]

@regismo

You're wrong. Article 40.13 said : "If the race ends whilst the SC is deployed,", nothing more. And in this case, 40.4 says that you have to keep Yellow flags and SC board :

"When the order is given the DEPLOY the SC [...] all the marshal's post will display waved YELLOW flags and SC boards FOR TH DURATION OF THE INTERVENTION."

So the green flags withdraw the SC's deployment and therefore the race has not ended under article 40.13 conditions.

Schumi's move was within the rules.

[TheColinChapman]

@SchumiSutil So why did MGP withdraw their protest note?

[Blindkiller64]

@SchumiSutil Not at all. The rule said that if the race ends in SC period, NO OVERTAKING ALLOWED. The race ended in SC period indeed, so Schumi got penalised well. Read carefully the rules. I read it just after the incident and he desserved the penalty

[SchumiSutil]

@Blindkiller64

Stupid : just read article 40.4 which prove that race didn't end in SC period, inwhich all the flags are yellows with SC boards. As it was the case in Australia 2009.

[Blindkiller64]

@SchumiSutil First of all, the Race ended in SC period because the LAST LAP OF THE RACE was started in a SAFETY CAR PERIOD.

Secondly: don't call me stupid when I did not insult you in any case. A bit of respect.

[SchumiSutil]

@Blindkiller64

Since when the ends of the race means the beginin of the last lap ? The race ends on the chequered flag !

So the last corner was under green flags and not under SC. Therefore the race has not ended while the SC was deployed. As simple as that !

[Blindkiller64]

@SchumiSutil So, why the Safety Car in the last lap? If the race must be ended in green flag, why they only put the green flag in the last meters? It's stupid! The race ended in SC period, as Ferrari told Alonso not to care about his positions and FIA penalised Schumi, as simple as that.

[alexandertrefz]

@Blindkiller64 The Race enden not in the Safetycar as it was Safetycar in this Lap and the Sc turned into the Box BEFORE *BEFORE* the freakin finish line. Green flags were shown which stated clearly(at the rules that applied at the time the race took place) that the track is free for racing. The maneuver was legal, Hill wanted to punish Schumi for being way better than him.