Wow, what a different sound! Weird that Bill Haley's version, itself almost just a remake of their own Rock This Joint albeit with different lyrics, suits it so much more. Still, the little jazzy solo on this one is pretty nice in an almost Christmas muzak on speed kind of way.
ok....bill haley all day......this version..original or not.....they sound like they are forced to do it...like kids in a grade schoool musical......embarrased and shy
This was always Haley's song. He wasn't able to initially release it because Essex Records wouldn't let him, so he along with others created Arcade Records in order to release it. He let his friend, Sunny Dae, sing it.
Check your history on this song. It was originally written(1953) for and sung by Bill Haley and the Comets in 1954(Wildwood, NJ). Due to a disagrement between the writers, Miller and Myer, it was not RECORDED by the Comets until after this rendition by "The Knights" in 1955.
Wow...!!! After years of being a Rock´n´Roll Fan i can´t stop to learn more about Rock History. I never ever knew that there was a original version of this million seller. What i find very interesting is the fact, that Bill in that times was copying R&B songs, that made his career a better turn. the Term "Rock´n´Roll" wasn´t popular yet, even when Bill Haley already played and recorded it. I wonder, how Sonny Dae could ever do the same thing: covering Black R&B by actualy being an Italian?
Wasn't gonna wade through all the comments but I just wanted to bring up something that I noticed on the clip to this song. The fact about Jamie Farr being in Blackboard Jungle is correct but he was credited in the movie by his real name Jameel Farah.
Terribly lame at the end but otherwise good. More jazz, less rock. Makes me think of the Beatniks, underground in the fifties, pop culture in the sixties (with the wartime culture adding its own twist), sleeping it off in the seventies, stirring themselves back to life in the eighties, and enjoying their gay nineties. Then the millenium and it starts all over.
i love these guys this is original and it probably was their best effort i feel bad they only have two facebook pages and only two people like them me and some other guy
Think about one funny thing. With all my respect to Bill Haley - his 3 biggest hits were all covers: Rock Around The Clock (Sony Dae), Shake, Rattle And Roll ("Big" Joe Turner) and "See You Later" (Bobbt Charles). Despite all this he surely knew how to "ROCK THE JOINT"...(which also were a cover).
He was the FIRST rock and roller. I can highly recommend to read the book "Rock Around The Clock" by Jim Dawson 2005.
He was ONE OF A KIND and did a hell of job for rock music.
This is a super super rare version.An original of this on 45rpm costs a load of dosh! Much prefer Hayley's version thouigh, this sounds "dead" in comparison!
I loved the liner notes: however, Blackboard Jungle starred Glenn Ford and Sidney Poitier with Vic Morrow as the major indvidual of the supporting cast.. By the way, how did you do that? I'm a trivia kind of guy and would love to use that on some of my comtemplated posting.
I can see why this recording didn't go anywhere (boooring) but in 1954 it sure did and as they say, the rest is history. So glad I was part of that history.
The song was written for Haley, but his record company refused to let him record it. He played it live on stage, and didn't record it until he got to Decca records. This version is actually on record label owned by Haleys manager, Jack Howard.
the song is based loosely on Hank William's "Move it on Over", not a Big Joe Turner song.
This version was recorded and realeased in 1953 and NOT IN 1954. That was Bill Haley´s version. It did not succed until it was featured in the movie BLACK BOARD JUNGLE from 1955 which has the tune as an opening.
btw all this info is incorrect, Bill Haley perfomed this live for the very 1st time memorial day 1954 in wildwood n.j. he recorded it earlier, this group rec later than what is being falsely told here to influence improperly danke!
NOT THE ORIGINAL!! Big Joe Turner did the Original and It DIDN'T SUCK!!! MUCH AS Big Joe Turner did the Original Shake Rattle and Roll! HALEY was a HORSE THEIF!
Emotion got the better me and from what I've read Hailey and Turner got to be pretty good friends and even toured together. There was a lot of injustice in the history of rock and roll and I guess I get a little ruffled when someone doesn't get their due. Apologies to Hailey, his family and his fans.
A B C E F You...rare vinyl from the 50's? Sure, let me pull it out of my @ss along with my Superman Action Comics, My Babe Ruth Autographed rookie card when he was with Boston, and audio tapes of Hoover saying sniping Kennedy was all HIS idea. WTFE man.
What talent to take a song like this and make it into a rock 'n'roll classic. This version is like so much other stuff from those years, which can also be heard on the "Rockaphilly"-LP.
Thanks for the posting. It all makes sence now this version was still ending the big band sound of the 30's and 40's when I was a kid. Then came Bill with his sound ,which was part country . They called it rock a billy . A lot of country in early Rock and the Blues and Gospel .GOOOD STUFF
Fascinating - the origins of Rock & Roll, you can see it emerging here into its developed form from its origins in the earlier pop music of the mid 20th century, barbershop, jazz, swing & boggie-woggie rhythm.
hi nice version like it always thought bill haly was the aridganal i do bileve a lot of rock and roll stars did cover versions of old classics i love rock n roll
i cant imagine if this was the original that would be relased. just think the theme to happy days would be different, and well a lot would be different in 50s music
Rock'n'Roll was "invented" by Louis Jordan and the Tympani 5 in 1946-47 also Big Mamma Thornten was doing the real version of 'Houndog" in the early 50's and it aint about no goddamn rabbits ! Dont get me wrong I like Elvis he was Massively talented and his early carreer is nothing but groundbreaking. But we need to give credit due to the correct folks ,that's all i mean !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You ar ethe only person that I have seen that knows that Louis Jordan created Rock and Roll. I learned about him creating in by watching the Ken Burns PBS mini series documentary on Jazz. R&B is actually Swing Stripped down to three instruments.
Interesting, I never heard this story before, always assumed Bill Haley was the originator of this song.. You know this song is huge to this day in Chile and some other South American countries?
hey rockabillywilly!! you should check out the clueless clem cat fight going on at the bill haley version comments of this song the comments are hilarious and so far out !!!! long live rock and roll !!! most early rock and roll with the exception of true origanals like buddy, little richard etc were all just lame covers of the usually superior original in a crass attempt at making some money without paying the original artist's !!!!
Elvis NEVER claimed to have invented R "n" R..He actually said it had been around years before he came along..BUT..he was Rock/Pops greatest talent,and kicked down all the barriers to allow everybody in..he had it all.
Something gonna be wrong. It is NTO 1954 but the year prior to that 1953 Sony Dae recoreded the original version. Funny thing - ALL 3 BIGGEST hit Bill recorded were originalle done by others: "The Clock", "Shake Rattle." "See You Later"...alghough his versions were deffintely better and he even recorded some songs MUCH better during his BIG TIME. Long live THE MAN who made rock n´roll popular.
Not unenjoyable at all. Much more of a hep feeling to it. However, I am still glad Bill Haley grabbed this song by the throat, shoved a rocket up it's ass, and said "Watch this shit".
"I saw...there was the before, there was RockArounClock..."
A good one that was before Haley's "Rock Around The Clock" and similar to it imo (except for the vocal) was "We're Gonna Rock This Joint" by the Jackson Brothers on RCA Victor. "Oakie Boogie" by Ella Mae Morse, "Rock And Roll" by Doles Dickens, and "Hey Ba Ba Re Bop" by Tex Beneke had a kind of Haley vibe too.
This isn't actually shocking as far as being called the original recorded version because Bill Haley never took credit for writing the song, nor is it shocking that Blackboard Jungle made it famous because I thought every one knew that. What's shocking is that you're trying to make people think that this version wasn't chosen because Billy Haley & the Comet recorded last. Don't you know how directors or soundtrack producers pick music. They've heard this version and they felt Bill's is better.
Wow. So who is credited with composing this side? If the historical records are to be believed, Bill Haley had been performing 'Clock for some time before he took it to the studio. Is it possible Sonny Dae picked up on it at one of Bill's gigs? It's a fact that there has always been some dispute as to who exactly is the true author of Haley's version. Whatever - this is a great track, but up against Bill Haley & his Comets (aided and abetted by the amazing Milt Gabler) it just can't compete.
talking about this song there is an original version named "move it on over" by hank williams sr from 1949 and the rhytms is the same and its not rock n roll so who is the original ;P
Oh--the Russians thought this was a plot hatched by the USA to subvert ALL the young people of the world---well it DID attract all the young people the world over, but not in the exact manner THEY accused us of!
Sorry, but Bill Hayley's version was clearly superior, and deserved to become the hit. Execution is everything. He and the Comets were charismatic showmen who knew how to put rock across to a wide audience. Still, this is a fascinating bit of musical history. Thanks.
you know what a cover is ? just because you credit dont mean a thing all the real pioneers of rock and roll most people dont even know they recorded these songs before the versions that charted and made money for the co,s etc you get you facts straight ive been in the biz for 25 years i know of what i speak and as far as blond 87 is concerned it was already famous before elvis was allowed in a juke .
No. In 1955 Bill Haley's version was used in the movie Blackboard Jungle and kids got up out of their seats and danced in the aisles. It wasn't really a riot - but people didn't usually dance in a movie theatre and the oldies thought it was scandalous.
sorry, and apologies, i got a bit carried away there..but i get really tired of people giving that phony all the credit when there were so many artists so much better than him. he made a forune..STEALING other artists songs.
the more educated we become about the true roots of rock and roll, the sooner we can stop making idiotic, low IQ comments such as" elvis is the king of rock and roll" and "oh if it wernt for elvis..we wouldnt have rock and roll"
baloney!! the true rock and roll fans know what its all about.
to all the third grade educated morons out there..bad news pal..ELVIS DID NOT INVENT ROCK AND ROLL, nor did he discover it, nor did he make it happen.
A bit harsh, perhaps, but rainydaywoman43 is dead right. Wild Bill Moore, for example, recorded "We're Gonna Rock, We're Gonna Roll" in 1947 when Elvis was just twelve years old!
i agree with your comments.elvis gets to much credit ie starting r'n'roll.bill haley was the guy who opened the floodgates for elvis and all the others that followed.he blended the great r'n'b music with his own western influences and was the'first' white artist to hit the national charts with crazy man crazy in august 1953.i think elvis was still driving his truck at this time...
I have to disagree with you, Elvis was the first one who mixed Black Music and the typical Country Western sound. Bill played the typical white music, without having any Black music influence in it.
This is Rhythm & Blues not Black music, denglish Effect! :)
Black music is for me Blues pur Blues like Johnny Lee Hooker. This is what i meant, don't get me wrong Haley did a great Job mixing, Western and Rhythme and Blues: My favore number is Razzle Dazzle.
even blues isn't really pure - think how much it sounds like appalachian folk songs, especially the structure of the vocal line. Besides, "rhythm and Blues" is just recording industry code for music black people listen to - it used to be called the "race charts"
No, that's completely inaccurate--Haley utilized jazz and swing elements before Elvis mixed it with the country blues. BOTH artists had a black influence--Elvis' was Blues from Mississippi and Haley's was Jump Blues from Chicago. It was Haley who put the drums and sax into it, turning basic rockabilly INTO full-blown big beat "rock & roll"...which was neither black nor white--but TEENAGE music!
"Haley's was Jump Blues from Chicago." When Haley got interested in rocking R&B in 1950, it was already popular among "black" bands in various cities. Jimmy Preston, the first artist to record the hit "Rock The Joint," Chris Powell, the second, and Haley all worked in the Philadelphia area.
I was referring to Haley's r&b musical influences, like Joe Turner and Louis Jordan--Haley was travelling on the road in the late 40s and was in both the midwest as well as New Orleans--so he heard it somewhat before 1950. It's interesting how rock & roll took only some elements from Chicago blues and "jump blues", like the drums, piano and sax, but discarded others like the trumpet, and harmonica!
I think "black" popular music of '47-'50 (such as "Rock The Joint") is key to how the R&R sound got going. During the '47-'50 period Louis Jordan, Wynonie Harris, and Amos Milburn had a combined fifty R&B Top Tens, and the real Sonny Boy Williamson, Muddy Waters, and Little Walter had a combined one R&B Top Ten: I think that helps explain why harmonica wasn't in R&R much. Trumpet was still big as of '47-'50, but Milburn, Joe Liggins, and others weren't using it, which was helping it drop off.
No, that's completely inaccurate--Haley utilized jazz and swing elements before Elvis mixed it with the country blues. BOTH artists had a black influence--Elvis' was Blues from Mississippi and Haley's was Jump Blues from Chicago. It was Haley who put the drums and sax into it, turning basic rockabilly INTO full-blown big beat "rock & roll"...which was neither black nor white--but TEENAGE music!
Like the Top-Notes' "Twist & Shout" and the Rainbows'"Hanky Panky," this is another example of a song being performed much better the second time around. Nice try.
Definitely up there with the Top Notes' original version of "Twist & Shout" and the Rainbows'"Hanky Panky" as songs that were MUCH better the second time around. It always sounds like Jack Howard at Arcade stuffed cotton into the mike. He should have fixed this up a bit -- you know, crank up the midrange on the guitar, and put some oomph into the bass. Maybe if Tom Dowd had been behind the console, things would've been different.
Wow, this is such a famous song and yet I had no idea this was the original. What a neat bit of history this is and many thanks for sharing this with us!
There has been speculation that "Rock Around the Clock" existed even prior to 1952-53. This stems from the existence of a 1952 song of the same name by Wally Mercer and an earlier 1950 recording called "Rock Around the Clock" by Hal Singer, although the Mercer song, at least, is completely different from the Freedman/Myers tune.
(i.e. Sonny Dae Version [written by Freedman/Myers])
Wow, what a different sound! Weird that Bill Haley's version, itself almost just a remake of their own Rock This Joint albeit with different lyrics, suits it so much more. Still, the little jazzy solo on this one is pretty nice in an almost Christmas muzak on speed kind of way.
elfhermie 2 weeks ago
Interesting and not as terrible as advertized; more a "sweater-crowd" version, as if the Lettermen had decided to "get real gone one time" :-)
Good groove and shimmer from the drummer, and you definitely can twist to this...
The thing is, once you hear Bill H and the boys, it does pale some by comparison.
But thank you for posting; a real piece of musical history here.
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pingpongpung 7 months ago
this song sing we in my school xDit's sooo boring!
Snippafull 8 months ago
@Snippafull Subjekt-Verb-Objekt
youtuete 8 months ago
@Snippafull - then take the Billy Haley version!
dankwarth 7 months ago
Hey, Bill Haley ripped off a Bat Mitzah band!!!
AWTD 9 months ago
this is what they should have had as the happy days intro!
thumbs up if agreed
coolboy101martin 9 months ago
not as good as haley but I think this is an historic media document
samuelyeah 9 months ago 6
Thank God Bill Haley recorded it This one just isn't as good
SEVFEST 9 months ago
I've seen Black Board Jungle *Thumbs Up"
invisibleman275 10 months ago
Finally we can hear the orginal version, i have try for years. Thank you. Let's rock!
buddyeagle 10 months ago
ok....bill haley all day......this version..original or not.....they sound like they are forced to do it...like kids in a grade schoool musical......embarrased and shy
angeltaffolla 10 months ago
This was always Haley's song. He wasn't able to initially release it because Essex Records wouldn't let him, so he along with others created Arcade Records in order to release it. He let his friend, Sunny Dae, sing it.
DrArt1 11 months ago
Check your history on this song. It was originally written(1953) for and sung by Bill Haley and the Comets in 1954(Wildwood, NJ). Due to a disagrement between the writers, Miller and Myer, it was not RECORDED by the Comets until after this rendition by "The Knights" in 1955.
lyon406 11 months ago
Sonny Dae real name Paschai Vernitti was an old friend of Bills who part owned the label this was issued on
ginger1959able 11 months ago
Wow...!!! After years of being a Rock´n´Roll Fan i can´t stop to learn more about Rock History. I never ever knew that there was a original version of this million seller. What i find very interesting is the fact, that Bill in that times was copying R&B songs, that made his career a better turn. the Term "Rock´n´Roll" wasn´t popular yet, even when Bill Haley already played and recorded it. I wonder, how Sonny Dae could ever do the same thing: covering Black R&B by actualy being an Italian?
rockincarbonara 11 months ago
Wasn't gonna wade through all the comments but I just wanted to bring up something that I noticed on the clip to this song. The fact about Jamie Farr being in Blackboard Jungle is correct but he was credited in the movie by his real name Jameel Farah.
Farkurnell 1 year ago
What a CRAP version !
Bill`s version Rocks!!
Chimbo65 1 year ago
Terribly lame at the end but otherwise good. More jazz, less rock. Makes me think of the Beatniks, underground in the fifties, pop culture in the sixties (with the wartime culture adding its own twist), sleeping it off in the seventies, stirring themselves back to life in the eighties, and enjoying their gay nineties. Then the millenium and it starts all over.
MsLogjam 1 year ago
Ain't that MARK guy the Drummer-Boy
TheHillbillyHermitt1 1 year ago
Haley took this drab version and took it by the balls and made it a world-wide mega hit !!!
rocknroll56able 1 year ago
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Jazz + blues = rock 'n roll.
randommagnum 1 year ago
@randommagnum "The blues had a baby and they named ROCK´N´ROLL"
teddyrocker 11 months ago
i love these guys this is original and it probably was their best effort i feel bad they only have two facebook pages and only two people like them me and some other guy
SuperCriticguy 1 year ago
i love these guys this is original and it probably was their best effort
SuperCriticguy 1 year ago
tried to copy a style they should not have. forgot about all them real blues people didnt they
jbeng1953 1 year ago
Think about one funny thing. With all my respect to Bill Haley - his 3 biggest hits were all covers: Rock Around The Clock (Sony Dae), Shake, Rattle And Roll ("Big" Joe Turner) and "See You Later" (Bobbt Charles). Despite all this he surely knew how to "ROCK THE JOINT"...(which also were a cover).
He was the FIRST rock and roller. I can highly recommend to read the book "Rock Around The Clock" by Jim Dawson 2005.
He was ONE OF A KIND and did a hell of job for rock music.
killerdillr 1 year ago
This is great information. I'd known that Haley's Rock was a cover but had never heard the original!! Thank You.
patentpumps 1 year ago
I think that Mark does the drums because sometimes you hear a drum ;)
XxKeepFaithxX 1 year ago
is better whit bill haley. anyone agree
0bamboocha0 1 year ago
@0bamboocha0 I do...this version sucked! >:P
MelanieLouM 1 year ago
mmmmmmmmmmmmm bill and the boys shure did the bollocks on this number a bit like valery by the zutons cos the old crack ed did it better
fattyfurlong 1 year ago
This is a super super rare version.An original of this on 45rpm costs a load of dosh! Much prefer Hayley's version thouigh, this sounds "dead" in comparison!
trackieben 1 year ago
I loved the liner notes: however, Blackboard Jungle starred Glenn Ford and Sidney Poitier with Vic Morrow as the major indvidual of the supporting cast.. By the way, how did you do that? I'm a trivia kind of guy and would love to use that on some of my comtemplated posting.
dog1701 1 year ago
what did mark do anyway?
1234567890lego 1 year ago
13 WOMEN ON THE FLIP IS A BETTER TUNE IN MY OPINION, ON THE BILL HALEY OF COURSE
SINNERSTRONG 1 year ago
well, Bill Haley liked this original well enough to take.....these kids could have rocked the walls out of any high school gym in 1954
largelester 1 year ago
I can see why this recording didn't go anywhere (boooring) but in 1954 it sure did and as they say, the rest is history. So glad I was part of that history.
evelyn842 1 year ago
My mom was about a month old when this song was recorded.
musicforsean 1 year ago
She must be young. lol.
QUTheTrackstar 1 year ago
@QUTheTrackstar
She turned 56 yesterday.
musicforsean 1 year ago
if they still have a video wit frankie i want to find it
tabby1buddy 1 year ago
Wow! This is the "Barber! I'll have a shave please." version!
madcapromanian 1 year ago 3
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
NICE!
musicforsean 1 year ago
The song was written for Haley, but his record company refused to let him record it. He played it live on stage, and didn't record it until he got to Decca records. This version is actually on record label owned by Haleys manager, Jack Howard.
the song is based loosely on Hank William's "Move it on Over", not a Big Joe Turner song.
rbound827 1 year ago
This version was recorded and realeased in 1953 and NOT IN 1954. That was Bill Haley´s version. It did not succed until it was featured in the movie BLACK BOARD JUNGLE from 1955 which has the tune as an opening.
killerdillr 2 years ago
btw all this info is incorrect, Bill Haley perfomed this live for the very 1st time memorial day 1954 in wildwood n.j. he recorded it earlier, this group rec later than what is being falsely told here to influence improperly danke!
JRussoBuffaloNY 2 years ago
Thanks for the history lesson! I do prefer the Bill Haley version but this was great to hear.
bonzohart 2 years ago
thanks for this post video, good info too...
anyhow i really preffer Bill Haley ...
greetzzzz
abraxasIX 2 years ago
NOT THE ORIGINAL!! Big Joe Turner did the Original and It DIDN'T SUCK!!! MUCH AS Big Joe Turner did the Original Shake Rattle and Roll! HALEY was a HORSE THEIF!
soulsurvivor2001 2 years ago
i'm aggre with you in Big Joe maybe was a main creator, but you just can`t missrespect Bill Halley just for become in HITS other people's songs...
no way!
greetzz ;)
abraxasIX 2 years ago
Emotion got the better me and from what I've read Hailey and Turner got to be pretty good friends and even toured together. There was a lot of injustice in the history of rock and roll and I guess I get a little ruffled when someone doesn't get their due. Apologies to Hailey, his family and his fans.
soulsurvivor2001 2 years ago 2
@soulsurvivor2001 WELL POST IT, STUPID...
andylyboy31 2 years ago
A B C E F You...rare vinyl from the 50's? Sure, let me pull it out of my @ss along with my Superman Action Comics, My Babe Ruth Autographed rookie card when he was with Boston, and audio tapes of Hoover saying sniping Kennedy was all HIS idea. WTFE man.
soulsurvivor2001 2 years ago
What talent to take a song like this and make it into a rock 'n'roll classic. This version is like so much other stuff from those years, which can also be heard on the "Rockaphilly"-LP.
dkfelix 2 years ago
Thanks for the posting. It all makes sence now this version was still ending the big band sound of the 30's and 40's when I was a kid. Then came Bill with his sound ,which was part country . They called it rock a billy . A lot of country in early Rock and the Blues and Gospel .GOOOD STUFF
gimbadeebum 2 years ago
woo nice Ive never heard this version, its more reminiscent of the 40's as opposed to the chart breaker of the 50's style.
Kaunazz 2 years ago
Great version!!! So rare! Thanks for posting!
ptownmotowndj 2 years ago
pour moi super version la classe!
go cat go!
titi661966 2 years ago
It's easy to hear why Haley's version made it big. It has a lot more spunk, this sounds decidedly tame by comparison. Very interesting though.
rvkan 2 years ago
Where can I get an MP3 of this? I can't find an MP3 anywhere on the internet.
MegastarLV 2 years ago 3
Fascinating - the origins of Rock & Roll, you can see it emerging here into its developed form from its origins in the earlier pop music of the mid 20th century, barbershop, jazz, swing & boggie-woggie rhythm.
A.B. Surrey, England.
kcirdrab 2 years ago 4
Not bad, great for comparison
Shoknifeman 2 years ago 7
hi nice version like it always thought bill haly was the aridganal i do bileve a lot of rock and roll stars did cover versions of old classics i love rock n roll
nick
nickladey 2 years ago 3
No kidding. Bill Haley's version is way better than this one! This original version doesn't sound like rock & roll to me. It sounds more like jazz.
MegastarLV 2 years ago 5
this is nice but the good one is bill haley's,SORRY,but anyway LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sergemoon8 2 years ago 3
Squares! Bill Haley's version is wayyyyy better!
73h5n1p3r 2 years ago 5
mite be the original,but they didnt get it there did theyyyyyyyyyyyy.
parisboogie 2 years ago 4
i cant imagine if this was the original that would be relased. just think the theme to happy days would be different, and well a lot would be different in 50s music
dylan962300 2 years ago
This is OK once it gets going, but there is no way it smokes like Haley and the Comets.
TubeGunner 2 years ago 3
This reminds me of the movie "The Girl Can't Help It"
"One ROCK, two ROCKS......"
visor109 2 years ago
Rock'n'Roll was "invented" by Louis Jordan and the Tympani 5 in 1946-47 also Big Mamma Thornten was doing the real version of 'Houndog" in the early 50's and it aint about no goddamn rabbits ! Dont get me wrong I like Elvis he was Massively talented and his early carreer is nothing but groundbreaking. But we need to give credit due to the correct folks ,that's all i mean !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gibsondrummer 2 years ago
You ar ethe only person that I have seen that knows that Louis Jordan created Rock and Roll. I learned about him creating in by watching the Ken Burns PBS mini series documentary on Jazz. R&B is actually Swing Stripped down to three instruments.
novusmundi 2 years ago 3
Exactly ! 12 bar blues slowed down and played by the rhythm section .
gibsondrummer 2 years ago 2
WELL............
KrazyRICKY123 2 years ago
This is a very interesting recording...and equally amazing how Bill Haley reinterpreted it!
Pickinbuddy 2 years ago
wow, thanks for all the information. I usually appreciate and recognize the value of the original versions too :)
neoflyboy 2 years ago
1954 orrig rec 4 man jam sounds am good!! does anyone know what happened to sonny?
largelester 2 years ago
very lame version, sounds like something you here in an elevator
26highstreet 2 years ago 4
I can understand how it did not go far! glad bill put some fire in it!!
paddy6062 2 years ago 4
They sound bored, give me Bill Haley!!!
TeeBeeBad63 2 years ago 25
yeah...
plukap 2 years ago
I've been searching for years for a 45 of this version. Thanks for posting it. ....Shadow Jack
mitchgodwin 2 years ago
this version definitely is missing the funk of the more famous version.LOL
Rodrickzx 2 years ago 5
Interesting, I never heard this story before, always assumed Bill Haley was the originator of this song.. You know this song is huge to this day in Chile and some other South American countries?
CrisVangel 2 years ago 2
Thanks for posting it!
lapsang2 2 years ago
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nefti22 2 years ago
hey rockabillywilly!! you should check out the clueless clem cat fight going on at the bill haley version comments of this song the comments are hilarious and so far out !!!! long live rock and roll !!! most early rock and roll with the exception of true origanals like buddy, little richard etc were all just lame covers of the usually superior original in a crass attempt at making some money without paying the original artist's !!!!
gibsondrummer 3 years ago
louie jordan, slim gaillard ,big mama thorten, joe turner they invented rock n roll not bill haley or elvis
gibsondrummer 3 years ago
AGREE!!!!
RockabillyWilly1 3 years ago
Elvis made Rock famous!
PlatinumBlonde87 2 years ago
Elvis NEVER claimed to have invented R "n" R..He actually said it had been around years before he came along..BUT..he was Rock/Pops greatest talent,and kicked down all the barriers to allow everybody in..he had it all.
cameltrail 2 years ago
Something gonna be wrong. It is NTO 1954 but the year prior to that 1953 Sony Dae recoreded the original version. Funny thing - ALL 3 BIGGEST hit Bill recorded were originalle done by others: "The Clock", "Shake Rattle." "See You Later"...alghough his versions were deffintely better and he even recorded some songs MUCH better during his BIG TIME. Long live THE MAN who made rock n´roll popular.
killerdillr 3 years ago
Three Weeks later they got it right.
Ron8601 3 years ago
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Better than bill haley.
justicejayant 3 years ago
te pusieron -1, jajaja
porquenotecallas66 3 years ago
This is a history lesson in rock music!!!
RockabillyWilly1 3 years ago 20
Not unenjoyable at all. Much more of a hep feeling to it. However, I am still glad Bill Haley grabbed this song by the throat, shoved a rocket up it's ass, and said "Watch this shit".
YouDummy 3 years ago 13
I agree with you. I'm glad Bill Haley did shove a rocket up its ass - he really made it fly.
youngmoigle 3 years ago 6
@youngmoigle Yeah...he turned the "Nerd Version" into the undisputed firrst rock 'n' roll song.
madcapromanian 10 months ago
YouDummy well said.
Haleyzz 3 years ago
@YouDummy No I dont agree. It was fine.
stratoblaster379 1 year ago
I saw...there was the before, there was RockArounClock and there was the after.
Kombidefeira 3 years ago
"I saw...there was the before, there was RockArounClock..."
A good one that was before Haley's "Rock Around The Clock" and similar to it imo (except for the vocal) was "We're Gonna Rock This Joint" by the Jackson Brothers on RCA Victor. "Oakie Boogie" by Ella Mae Morse, "Rock And Roll" by Doles Dickens, and "Hey Ba Ba Re Bop" by Tex Beneke had a kind of Haley vibe too.
JosephNScott 3 years ago
dull and forgettable
AntArt141 3 years ago
yrah, it rocks
sarshadr 3 years ago
just love it
glomma80 3 years ago
weird...
DiscoDuckey 3 years ago
very educational....
davehiggod 3 years ago
Well....If THIS was the only version ever pressed sorry but I would have forgotten it long ago.
knucklesmcgill 3 years ago
Wow what a great version. Its has a nice fusion sound.. digging that jazzy vibe.
FunkyVinylJunkie 3 years ago
This is more like a jazzy version but good.
fezkraut 3 years ago
This must be one of the first rock and roll songs that have been made. This was better than Bill Haleys version.
0zzyfan44 3 years ago
It's so different from Haley, it's almost another song
hegmat 3 years ago
did you know that the song was apparently written for bill haley?
saitunes 3 years ago
Yes, I did know that - what you've got here is the ORIGINAL version that came out before Bill Haley & the Comets.
youngmoigle 3 years ago
@youngmoigle HAPPY HE SANG HIS OWN VERSION.
kingboi4756 1 year ago
Fascinating!
autoforthepeople 3 years ago
This isn't actually shocking as far as being called the original recorded version because Bill Haley never took credit for writing the song, nor is it shocking that Blackboard Jungle made it famous because I thought every one knew that. What's shocking is that you're trying to make people think that this version wasn't chosen because Billy Haley & the Comet recorded last. Don't you know how directors or soundtrack producers pick music. They've heard this version and they felt Bill's is better.
phlegethon1989 3 years ago
I was 9 lol
markwallach 3 years ago
Wow. So who is credited with composing this side? If the historical records are to be believed, Bill Haley had been performing 'Clock for some time before he took it to the studio. Is it possible Sonny Dae picked up on it at one of Bill's gigs? It's a fact that there has always been some dispute as to who exactly is the true author of Haley's version. Whatever - this is a great track, but up against Bill Haley & his Comets (aided and abetted by the amazing Milt Gabler) it just can't compete.
7rundle 3 years ago
great post
bmxgenie 3 years ago
The song to "Blackboard Jungle"
This song was blamed for turning teenagers
into criminals and deliquency back in the mid 50's
CRE8CBDK 3 years ago
talking about this song there is an original version named "move it on over" by hank williams sr from 1949 and the rhytms is the same and its not rock n roll so who is the original ;P
cholofromperu 3 years ago
Amazing! Never heard this version. Thanks for posting.
buggoff 3 years ago 3
Note to YOUNGMOIGLE:
At 02:11, the left caption comes up "Poor old Sonny Dae & The Kights".
Uhhh-h-h... that was supposed to be "Knights", not "Kights".
tomwinmax 3 years ago
Thanks for telling me - I did it a year ago and hadn't even noticed!
youngmoigle 3 years ago
Oh--the Russians thought this was a plot hatched by the USA to subvert ALL the young people of the world---well it DID attract all the young people the world over, but not in the exact manner THEY accused us of!
Pickinbuddy 3 years ago
Its nice, but i prefer bill haley's version ^^"
DPBurn121 3 years ago
Sorry, but Bill Hayley's version was clearly superior, and deserved to become the hit. Execution is everything. He and the Comets were charismatic showmen who knew how to put rock across to a wide audience. Still, this is a fascinating bit of musical history. Thanks.
PhiloPharnsworth 3 years ago 2
Thanks buddy! Had that record in the early 80s - this is original Rock Around the Clock!!!
ChristerDahlback 3 years ago
WRITTEN BY THE GREAT MAX FREEDMAN
zapdunga 3 years ago
BS..if you read under every title on bill haleys rock around the clock records sonny daes name is below the title...get your facts straight
vincenz55 3 years ago
you know what a cover is ? just because you credit dont mean a thing all the real pioneers of rock and roll most people dont even know they recorded these songs before the versions that charted and made money for the co,s etc you get you facts straight ive been in the biz for 25 years i know of what i speak and as far as blond 87 is concerned it was already famous before elvis was allowed in a juke .
gibsondrummer 2 years ago
is this the song that started riots around the ÚS when it was first played?
randivark 3 years ago
No. In 1955 Bill Haley's version was used in the movie Blackboard Jungle and kids got up out of their seats and danced in the aisles. It wasn't really a riot - but people didn't usually dance in a movie theatre and the oldies thought it was scandalous.
youngmoigle 3 years ago
That's classified information!
youngmoigle 3 years ago
Thanks for posting - this is a real rare version of worldwide wellknown song, the anthem of R'n'R.
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fanatico50 3 years ago
This version isn't as good as the Comets' but it's worth hearing for historical purposes. Thanks for sharing it.
Skinnyjoeymerlino 3 years ago
Thanks for this piece of history!
marco31768 4 years ago
Way cool- never heard this version before- released about 6 weeks before Bill Haley and the Comets' version. Thank you for posting this.
NipkowDisk 4 years ago
thanks young..
sorry, and apologies, i got a bit carried away there..but i get really tired of people giving that phony all the credit when there were so many artists so much better than him. he made a forune..STEALING other artists songs.
rainydaywoman43 4 years ago
the more educated we become about the true roots of rock and roll, the sooner we can stop making idiotic, low IQ comments such as" elvis is the king of rock and roll" and "oh if it wernt for elvis..we wouldnt have rock and roll"
baloney!! the true rock and roll fans know what its all about.
to all the third grade educated morons out there..bad news pal..ELVIS DID NOT INVENT ROCK AND ROLL, nor did he discover it, nor did he make it happen.
rainydaywoman43 4 years ago
A bit harsh, perhaps, but rainydaywoman43 is dead right. Wild Bill Moore, for example, recorded "We're Gonna Rock, We're Gonna Roll" in 1947 when Elvis was just twelve years old!
youngmoigle 4 years ago
i agree with your comments.elvis gets to much credit ie starting r'n'roll.bill haley was the guy who opened the floodgates for elvis and all the others that followed.he blended the great r'n'b music with his own western influences and was the'first' white artist to hit the national charts with crazy man crazy in august 1953.i think elvis was still driving his truck at this time...
Haleyzz 4 years ago 3
I have to disagree with you, Elvis was the first one who mixed Black Music and the typical Country Western sound. Bill played the typical white music, without having any Black music influence in it.
ChristianWyrwich 4 years ago
Joe Turner and Louis Jordan were black....Haley used and was influenced by these two guys
Haleyzz 4 years ago
This is Rhythm & Blues not Black music, denglish Effect! :)
Black music is for me Blues pur Blues like Johnny Lee Hooker. This is what i meant, don't get me wrong Haley did a great Job mixing, Western and Rhythme and Blues: My favore number is Razzle Dazzle.
ChristianWyrwich 4 years ago
even blues isn't really pure - think how much it sounds like appalachian folk songs, especially the structure of the vocal line. Besides, "rhythm and Blues" is just recording industry code for music black people listen to - it used to be called the "race charts"
anonyme8 3 years ago
No, that's completely inaccurate--Haley utilized jazz and swing elements before Elvis mixed it with the country blues. BOTH artists had a black influence--Elvis' was Blues from Mississippi and Haley's was Jump Blues from Chicago. It was Haley who put the drums and sax into it, turning basic rockabilly INTO full-blown big beat "rock & roll"...which was neither black nor white--but TEENAGE music!
Pickinbuddy 3 years ago
"Haley's was Jump Blues from Chicago." When Haley got interested in rocking R&B in 1950, it was already popular among "black" bands in various cities. Jimmy Preston, the first artist to record the hit "Rock The Joint," Chris Powell, the second, and Haley all worked in the Philadelphia area.
JosephNScott 3 years ago
I was referring to Haley's r&b musical influences, like Joe Turner and Louis Jordan--Haley was travelling on the road in the late 40s and was in both the midwest as well as New Orleans--so he heard it somewhat before 1950. It's interesting how rock & roll took only some elements from Chicago blues and "jump blues", like the drums, piano and sax, but discarded others like the trumpet, and harmonica!
Pickinbuddy 3 years ago
I think "black" popular music of '47-'50 (such as "Rock The Joint") is key to how the R&R sound got going. During the '47-'50 period Louis Jordan, Wynonie Harris, and Amos Milburn had a combined fifty R&B Top Tens, and the real Sonny Boy Williamson, Muddy Waters, and Little Walter had a combined one R&B Top Ten: I think that helps explain why harmonica wasn't in R&R much. Trumpet was still big as of '47-'50, but Milburn, Joe Liggins, and others weren't using it, which was helping it drop off.
JosephNScott 3 years ago
No, that's completely inaccurate--Haley utilized jazz and swing elements before Elvis mixed it with the country blues. BOTH artists had a black influence--Elvis' was Blues from Mississippi and Haley's was Jump Blues from Chicago. It was Haley who put the drums and sax into it, turning basic rockabilly INTO full-blown big beat "rock & roll"...which was neither black nor white--but TEENAGE music!
Pickinbuddy 3 years ago
Like the Top-Notes' "Twist & Shout" and the Rainbows'"Hanky Panky," this is another example of a song being performed much better the second time around. Nice try.
deyoungaza 4 years ago
Yeah, I agree with you - but it's interesting isn't it?
youngmoigle 4 years ago
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Definitely up there with the Top Notes' original version of "Twist & Shout" and the Rainbows'"Hanky Panky" as songs that were MUCH better the second time around. It always sounds like Jack Howard at Arcade stuffed cotton into the mike. He should have fixed this up a bit -- you know, crank up the midrange on the guitar, and put some oomph into the bass. Maybe if Tom Dowd had been behind the console, things would've been different.
deyoungaza 4 years ago
It sounds like a swing version of Rock Around The Clock and I love it!
kinkajou777 4 years ago
Very interesting, thank you.
TheTokyoDude 4 years ago
The Arcade label was owned by Bill Haley's manager.
caa71661 4 years ago
I didn't know that. Thanks for the info
youngmoigle 4 years ago
Now thats how it should be sung instead of that billy one hit wonder.
Wholelotofshakingoin 4 years ago
Wow, this is such a famous song and yet I had no idea this was the original. What a neat bit of history this is and many thanks for sharing this with us!
wwwHeavyMetalcom 4 years ago
Thanks for the comment - As a matter of interest, the earliest song with "Rock and Roll" in the title was a #7 hit for the Boswell Sisters in 1934.
youngmoigle 4 years ago
The version of Sonny Dae is not THE original... In 1952 it was created by Wally Mercer (I have this version)
jardinbleuet 4 years ago
The following quote comes from
rockabillyhall dot com
There has been speculation that "Rock Around the Clock" existed even prior to 1952-53. This stems from the existence of a 1952 song of the same name by Wally Mercer and an earlier 1950 recording called "Rock Around the Clock" by Hal Singer, although the Mercer song, at least, is completely different from the Freedman/Myers tune.
(i.e. Sonny Dae Version [written by Freedman/Myers])
youngmoigle 4 years ago
Yep, I own this one, cool, I wish there was footage of Sonny Dae.
haleyfan 4 years ago