Many people assume that the "science" in the Quran is indeed a miracle, but it is only perceived as being a miracle by those whose first encountered the concepts in the quran, i.e. the first time they read of such "scientific" concepts was only in the quran and not in another textbook.
Secondly, lets be honest here, the "science" in the quran was already known to mankind
hundred/thousands of years before the quran, mainly in greek and egyptian civilizations...those who search HARD will find!!
If you wish to challenge me atleast show that you can keep an
open mind about it, after all if your holy bibles are as holy/miraculous as you claim then you should not fear any criticism.
Also, most of the "scientific concepts" in the quran are as vague as when they were first revealed by their respective/original philosophers/scientists in ancient civilisations. Islamic scholars distort the already vague sentences and make them fit the known science today!!
In name of ALLAH , the age of earth is the age of its formation not the age of it material, and the age of its material is older than the age of its formation in Quran chapter 41 verses 9,10 ALLAH says he created earth material in 2 days and formed earth in another 2 days and in chapter 57:4 he says he created the heavens and the earth in six days so earth formed after 4 days so it age is 2 days or one third the universe age 13.75 minou error of 0.13 = 13.62 divid by 3 = 4.54 = earth age.
Where do i even begin? The earth is 4.55bn years old and the universe 13.7bn 'currently'.
But at every other point in time that trivial mathematical forcing fails. Try a 15bn year old universe and see how earth gets older faster than everything else lol.
Also the earth is finished by day 4...so shouldn't you be dividing by 2 since the universe got made in the 1st 2 days? Why pick day 6?
Oh yeah, because you don't care about objective reasoning.
In name of ALLAH, the heavens and the earth created in 6 days,and earth formed after 4 days passed the estimated age of earth is the age of its formation as a planet based on the formation of oldest rock on earth crust which formed after 4 days because its the upper layer of earth, which left 2 days remaining when the remaining 2 days passed this became the age of oldest rock on earth crust=estimated age of earth based on the formation of oldest rock on earth crust=2 days 2/6=1/3, 13.62/3=4.54
If all this was known in the Quran then why only recently have muslims "revealed" this information? In other words this should have been established within the first few years after the Quran was scribed and revealed. But of course muslims wait for the scientific result then skew their "theory" in order to make it fit. If the age of the Earth was say a different number than 4.5bill im sure muslims would invent a theory to make it stick aswell. Pathetic really, misguiding others.
when i build a house in a year this means the time of its building lasted for a year and when 10 years pass its building time remain one year, the 6 days are the days of univers creation you may say why that didnot happen already because we are(1 mi yr age of human max) in the last day of the univers creation an example when i build a house in a year and after one day i say to the people around me i have built may house in a year then no one will deny it the Quran was revealed 1,400 years ago.
@Mohammed54445 No it didn't reveal it, you just made it up.
Just like all those other liars who distort passages in old books to dress them up like miracles. Stop lying, isn't it a sin in your religion? Wont god punish you for lying to people and making crap up?
Any wonder why 500M Arabs are so backward compared to 20M Jews?
500M Arabs had no Nobel prize winner except given honararily
500M Arabs invented nothing and produced no technology
Just look at the Jews, made their deserts bloom, who control
world finance, had a hand in most of the hi tech inventions, nuclear fision, rocket science. Arabs have problems hoisting a camel up 3 stories without Jewish tech.
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yeah lets carry on feeling big about ourselves, or alternatively accept the truth no matter how hopeless it may seem to you ,as richard feynman said "id rather know nothing about the universe than to believe in something which is wrong" out of the 10s of thousands of gods which have existed and will exist in epochs to come theres no reason to believe in any one of them. "We are all athiests, but i just go one further"
For those of you who believe in an Intelligent Design of the Universe, and whose Faith is Strong, i invite you to watch a video that presents an alterative perspective.
If Truth is on your side, watching the video (of an astrophysicist) can only result in your belief being strenghtened by it.
Search on youtube for --> "Neil deGrasse Tyson destroys intelligent design"
A vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
Islam is nothing but a fraud meant to justify whatever Muhammad wanted to do.
The best example of this is when he lusted after his adopted son's wife. Arab customs naturally wouldn't allow him to have his [adopted] daughter-in-law. So, he proceeded to have a "revelation" that adoption should be forbidden, and then ended up marring her.
This man's whole life was scandalous. He was a pedophile, polygamist and war criminal. How he can be regarded as a prophet is beyond comprehension.
im not knocking you for it, i just think your mind is confused. the greatest trick for the devil is convincing people he doesnt exist, so if you dont believe in the devil you never knew your initial thoughts were possibly not your own. your acceptance of them eventually made them your own. modern society has convinced most people relegion (islam) is false & science disproves it when it does no such thing. the people running the world ironically believe in relegion but dont want u to
no you misunderstand me, i never once said you are immoral, infact i implied you do have morals but then i asked you where you get them from, i presented a scenario where relegion gives a reason to stop me from killing for a kidney where it would be beneficial for me to take it, science is your counter to combat religion where it obviously does not provide morals, but my relegion obviously did provide in this instance for me.
athiests fueled by science have not got their morals from science which they use to counter relegion. so morality is more in relation with relegion. if we all did what was scientefically best for us then things would be alot worse then they already are. should he steal that kidney? scientefically yes he should as he will suffer without it, morally no as its wrong. athiests have some morals from somewhere but where?
yes god did not create us to be gay, it is immoral & going against god, or if u dont believe in god then mother nature as a woman is obviously designed for man, one has a prick, the other has a hole...it goes in and leads to pregnancy. the gay way is to stick up a hole which is the human sewer. your right theres no morals without relegion, im glad we agree
@amrhima The intrigueing part of all this is that, this man, who has been documented more then any man in the whole of history, has till this date not be proven to be an imposter, the biggest concern for those tackling for an alternative in Muhammad(pbuh)'s case is, that there's just as likely a chance that he did have contact with Divinity than if he didn't.
@amrhima His sincerity in this belief must be accepted by the modern historian, for this alone makes credible the development of a great religion. The further question, however, whether the messages came from Muhammad's unconscious, or the collective unconscious functioning in him, or from some divine source, is beyond the competence of the historian."
@amrhima There is thus a strong case for holding that Muhammad was sincere. If in some respects he was mistaken, his mistakes were not due to deliberate lying or imposture[73] ....the important point is that the message was not the product of Muhammad's conscious mind. He believed that he could easily distinguish between his own thinking and these revelations.
@amrhima "Only a profound belief in himself and his mission explains Muhammad's readiness to endure hardship and persecution during the Meccan period when from a secular point of view there was no prospect of success. Without sincerity how could he have won the allegiance and even devotion of men of strong and upright character like Abu-Bakr and 'Umar ? ...
I invite you to study in depth the life of Muhammad(pbuh). Many Non-Muslim intellects who has studied this man's life in depth have documented a honest fact, the chances of him being an imposter is less likely than him being truthful to his word - this is something no one can say for any other person in history who claims to have made contact with the Divine. I will quote you one famous historian, who many in todays age fully agree with without objections.
due to this illiterate europe saw the light? with the same reasoning we should blame the butterfly for the storm and thank Hitler for avoiding the world's over-population....the distant results of an action do not make an argument in favor of the action.
Muslims should also take time in reading about Scientific Ideas and understand about our Universe and Space. Most Muslims study just the Quran and think it is everything, that's wrong. Quran never forbids you from learning something new does it, So why Ignore Modern Science and Ideas ?
If all the Muslims start to understand Science and how it works, they realize how advanced West is and perhaps, they start to contribute to Science too. How many Muslims contribute at this age ? Think about it..
Nothing could be clearer than the famous Hadith of the Prophet: “Seek for science, even in China”, or the other hadith which says that the search for knowledge is a strict duty for every Muslim man and woman.
I agree though, more Muslims shoulds get into the field of Science. But keep in mind there are some Muslim converts who are indeed Scientists that do contribute in this age.
@forgottenmemories63 thank you. but we were participating in science even before the europeans. And isha ahhah, we will realise and start doing that again. And stop the conflict among ourselves.
A great lecture. Some really great verses explained.
Anybody that believes anyone other than God could have revealed these facts is clearly deceiving themselves.
Listen to the info and then research to see if the Greeks or Indians knew anything about the layers of the sea, different sea water and the positions of the stars.
There are many other scientific signs in the Quran other than these including the measured use of rain water.
countless of people convert to islam after it has been demonised by the media, now just imagine how many would be converting if islam didn't have a bad name, the whole world would be peacefull and praying shoulder to shoulder.
in the beginning you will make fun of islam then you will fight it as hard as you can then at last you will give up and you will be a muslim,,,,so why don't you take a short cut and accept islam right away,,,its easy just say after me,,i bear witness that there is no god but allah and muhamed peace be upon him is his prophet and so was jesus,,,
@kiddo500 may allah guide us all to the stright path i was ashemed to say i am a muslim after 9 11 alhamdullilah i am thank ful to allah the only true god that i am muslim... may allah guide us all
@sroursss the fact you made fun of it and that you fought it hard makes your now conviction stronger than of someone who's muslim just because he was born muslim :)
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Does Zaghloul Mohammad Al Najjar have a paper where he explains how mountains stabilize the earth, how clay constitutes men...? I would urge anyone to present a paper that passed peer reviews making these claims and statements.
@dakodar clearly i can't provide you a paper through the net, but its a part of geology called Isostacy where mountains with heavy masses have roots much deeper than its height with comparably lesser density to compensate for the buoyancy above the asthenosphere, I goto york university in toronto canada and this is my field of study.
@marcstylzzz But the reference would do, I can look it up (have access). I simply have not seen it stated in any science book. But again, I can be wrong.
@dakodar right now, the only reference i can provide you is wiki: isostacy and read it carefully, as i cannot send u links here on youtube. But if you wanna know about something, you should go and research it yourself rather than challenging people to bring it for you, something which is evident.
@marcstylzzz That is not true. i did research and found no source providing any hint towards mountains stabilizing the earth. Hence, at that point I can only request others to provide some. The reference you gave says nothing in particular about mountains, nor about the statement that the crust is stable in the first place (which it is not).
Precision is measured in Accurate Mathematical Values and Proofs not made up words of a desert nomad on crack in the middle of the night on a high mountain...
@sesshy34 Was that all you could do? Randomly offend Muhammed just because you can't find any of his mistakes? For example, you said he was a nomad (wrong) then you said he was on crack (wrong) and you say he made up these words (wrong)
Three wrongs in 1 comment, you better share your sources or proof to prove your point(s).
@MasterNoor Please..... Quran might have Random teachings to offer to illiterate people that have no awareness of Science or how our world works but it is NOT for educated people who already know our Universe and how it works. There is no Allah in our Universe right now, neither does many Quranic verses hold true. Ex - One verses states "God created Earth and then the heavens, stars and other worlds". We know Earth was created long after the Sun and our Universe so Quran is against Science.
@sesshy34 HOw stupid could people be, thinking that science proves God wrong.... Science is a blessing of God so idiots like you can understand the phenomenon of events around you, rather than blaming God for hurricanes and earthquakes.
Firstly, IT"S NOWHERE MENTIONED that God created EARTH and then the Heavens,
Secondly, which retarded school taught you that Earth was created long after the sun, when both are dated to be 4.54 billion years old. so get your shit straight before accusing.
@MasterNoor Proof that Muhammad made up Stuff from Bible and Talmuds and added to Quran :
1> Adam was a prophet according to Muhammad. Prophet to who ? His dick ? Adam was the first man according to Bible, not a Prophet.
2> Quran was wrote many years AFTER the Bible. Muslims jump to the point that Bible is corrupted, even Quran had its time where it was destroyed and several people recorded verses on sticks and stones.
3> Jesus was crucified no doubt about it, there are lots of proof of this.
@MasterNoor 4> The Quran states that all the Prophets are sent by Allah to mankind are the Seeds of Ibrahim. (Abraham). So does that mean "Adam" himself was a descendant of Ibrahim ? Quran contradicts itself here.
5> The Holy Quran states "Geocentric Model" of our Solar system, saying Sun revolved around the Earth. Muhammad clearly copied these ideas from ancient Greek ideas of that day.
6> Several stories in Quran are mismatched and does not suit the timeline of Bible some are sumerian legends.
@sesshy34 This is no way to carry a debate. You talk as your point is flawless and any other point other than yours is deemed by automatic unworthy to even consider. Having a discussion is for people with different views on a topic to learn from each other, nobody is perfect, not even you.
Why don't you take time and discuss one topic at a time instead of flooding the comment page with random points without reason.
@superkugeta True Christians would never do that, here is a secret to all my muslim fellows, its the dumb atheists who start shit by portraying themselves as christians. They're just scared to face the truth. i know cuz i have tried it on enough of them face to face.
@superkugeta Christians speak without knowlodge? you follow a pedhofile and christhians are the ones without knowledge? hahahahahaha Islam is only just another satanist cult
@afemil@ThePsalm40 The Qur'an is clearly a book about the same god as you worship, descended from the Semite polytheism that came before it. Satan is Ba'al Zebub , just another son of EL like Jehovah. You knuckleheads have no clue what you are arguing about.
Like fighting about who is stronger, the turtle god or the snake god.
It's the 21st century, step out of the bronze age for 5 seconds and look around
@sesshy34 please tell me you just graduated from kindergarten. please give references to ur points rather than ranting ur mouth like its a hip hop or something. please and thank you
@sesshy34 LOL AT PROOF OF CRUCIFIXION, nvm lots, show me one. Jesus (PBUH) was/is untouchable, you can't harm someone who's been promised to be protected by God himself. and yes if u want, i can prove the corruption in it. and adam was teh first prophet cuz God promised that this world will never be without guidance, so to keep[ his promise, adam had to be a prophet. YOu wouldnt understand it, cuz u have the habit of making a fool of yourself everytime, everywhere.
@MasterNoor Brother do not bother and waste your time with someone like him, there are those who use logic to debate and those who use lies, the logic can easliy be debated but the lies it will only waste your time I have read all the comments this biggot has written and none of them quotes a single source. So why waste your time with him.
Is there (not) in these and adjuration (or evidence) for those who understand? (5) Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the `Ad (people)― (6) Of the (city of) Iram, with lofty pillars, (7) The like of which were not produced in (all) the land? (8) And with the Thamud (people) who cut out (huge) rocks in the valley?-- (9) And with Pharaoh, Lord of Stakes? (10) (All) these transgressed beyond bounds in the lands. (11)
The bottom line is The Quran was revealed over the 23 years during prophet's life as the messenger of Allah, and it is 100 percent accurate, not discrepancy, no error. Other scriptures have infiltrations,errors, discrepancy, as the speaker said.
@saqib9876 Yes,,,the Shia muslims say that Koran is incomplete because some of the verses were eaten by a goat who entered the house while Muhamad was being mourned...my question is why did Allah send that goat to the house? Do u know why?
@saqib9876Well it is a matter of opinion and you are entitled to it.. Question is, how can convincing can you get? Unless a human being is endowed with supernatural power, I doubt if he can memorize unwritten text and recall it with a high level of accuracy. It is one thing to memorize a book, it is another thing to memorize unwritten text. Is this fair statement?
@saqib9876 Do you know that even microchips sometimes fails too completely record data? So why do you expect humans to remember and recall everything? Sometimes humans forget when they cannot have sex, water and food..in those days women, water and food are scarce in the desert, so how can those companions remember all? They were not superhumans like super mario , right ?
Alone these 1000 verses that point to signs from Allah are not in any other place. Also, who ever has read the Quran will appreciate the uniqueness of the Quran. As an example, Allah mentions Pharoah & Hamaan so many times in the Quran (A Qasas, chapter 8) and tells him to build the tower to see Moses's god. Hamaan is not mentioned anywhere else. We learned about Hamaan after the discoveries in Egypt. Another example, The Quran mentions city of Iram, found in scrolls discovered in Syria.
@digitised the quran have many verses describing people like you. its so accurate that its amazing. i wont bother write it down since you know everything. and the more you talk, the more you make me believe that your tryin to convince yourself and not others. thats y no one wants to argue. coz we done searching. good luck with urs.
is there any holy book from any religion can show me a single miracles with proof as it was mentioned in our quran which is sent by allah(the almighty)....if there is anybody....show it to me
quran -if you kill a human is like you kill the hole human kind .if you save a human its like you save the hole human kind. but bibel - if a burglere comes to your home and your wife tryis to help you .kill your wife not the guilty one. your lord in your bibel killd 50.000 children and womman. in your bibel a profhet hade sex with his mom . is that GOD ? or work of SATAN POUL ?
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Christianity and Islam operate and has survived using the same tactics. Shoot an arrow and then draw circles around it. Pure nonsense, meaning garbage that only appears as enlightened by those attracted to darkness.
StopSpamming1 >>>> 1- Muslims believe that anyone reading the Koran automatically believes everything. >>>> ya alot of people when they read quran they belive it so what worng with it does that make quran worng ???
2- The Koran is 60% Bibles ..>> can u show me one ? 3- 10% Arab fables can u show me one ? 4- and 20% repetition are u talking about your fake bible ? blind u cant see it ya i know u didnt watch the video cos u fear the truth ? can u debate with me and proof to me what u said ?
I welcome you in our Room In Paltalk to debate the topic and then we can put it in youtube for every one to lsiten to it . .... u can add me in paltalk my name is happy-omar i am waiting for you .
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@StopSpamming1 u write another bible?... or bubble perhaps? let the cocroaches write about cocroaches... perhaps u need time and space of the dark stinky corners.. why not write a kindergarten stories instead?
Rachzi, you do not seem interested in discussing these issues.
Instead you assume to be absolutely correct in your position, yet offer me no refutations, or proof as to why that is so.
You are persistantly rude and do nothing except avoid actually having to talk to me by making cheap attacks on my character.
I have made considerable effort here to be polite and explain the other side of these miracle claims, because 1 sided propaganda does not reveal the problems with them.
It is your duty to be honest, your god is supposed to hate when you lie.
So i am appealing to your honesty to check these 'miracles' thoroughly, through genuine scientists who specialise in the fields relevant to each claim.
Because there is a lot of money to be made in book/dvd sales, when you have over 1 billion devoted people who want to be told of miracles in their holy book.
Surely it is worrying when NONE of the main authors/originators of these books is a muslim or scientist.
I am geniunely warning you not to believe these people because they are using you.
It has nothing to do with your faith, i dont care what god, if any, you believe in.
I care that people are used, extorted, and manipulated. Fooled into believing things which are demonstrably untrue.
Many new islamic converts are convinced to join soley because of these 'miracle' claims. They would not be muslims today if it wasnt for people like bucaille or haruan yahya, who knowingly lie for money.
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Just because i am an atheist, it does not mean i am incapable of honesty or compassion.
I see these claims as false and i am trying to peacefully show you this, so you can start to realise that these people are doing your religion no good.
They are damaging education and the minds of a whole new generation, who will likely now refuse to overturn their faith in these fallacious claims, they will do what Rachzi does and laugh at people who show them proof, and rational explanations.
Again, philosophy 101. New atheists always claiming to be on the intellectual higher ground.
I've heard it all before, nothing new. The fact Dawkins (your Pope) has actually presented the possibility that life on earth could have been due to aliens is insanity.
No, I'm not interested in discussion anymore with you, because you have already made up your mind, and the ONLY One that can guide is Allah.
To you be your way, and to me mine. Thank you for strengthening our believe in Islam.
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Richard Dawkins does not claim life started due to alien intervention, he offered that as an alternative example to Ben Stein when discussing origins in the movie 'crossroads' which was later changed to 'Expelled'.
The entire interview was done under false pretences and Dawkins was asked obscure questions in an effort to make evolution seem unable to explain the diversity of life.
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Abiogenesis is the best explanation of how life can arise on a fertile planet such as our own. No miralces needed to occur for simple life to begin here, and some 4.1 billion years ago simple self replicating cells did form and left evidence.
If you read some of Dawkins scientific books maybe you would realise how badly you have been mislead about what he thinks, hes a very smart man and only angry with religion because it attacks the work and livlihood of himself and his colleagues.
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Again however you are falsely attacking me, I have made no claims to holding the intellectual higher ground, although you continually prove you are unable to hold a rational discussion.
Atheism is not a religion, and there is no organised belief or social tradition. If you want to talk about my influences i would not put Dawkins as a 'pope', I much prefer Aristotle, Hume, Nietzche and also respect the debating skills of Chrisopher Hitchens and Matt Dillahunty (who you can find on youtube).
They're quite dogmatic to say the least. It always amazing me how New Atheists come with this false cloak of understanding and openess, however when you produce rational and cogent answers (as you have experienced before) they scurry away and scoff in arrogance.
The fact is, digitised, is that you DO NOT come from a point of view of diaglogue, rather a DOGMATIC approach, similar to that of Dawkins or Hitches (I'm sorry, not your Pope... Your IDOL[S].)
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Rachzi instead of making accusations of my character (which i do disagree with) why dont you present to me the rational and cogent proof you have for the existence of the islamic god?
I have not run away once in this discussion, i have spent if anything far too much time here trying to make my position clear and honest.
However many people have minused my comments to the point of invisibility, ignoring the need to actually refute my claims.
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If Allah created humans, animals, the earth, the sky and in fact the ENTIRE universe..... then why do you think he chose some illiterate fuckhead in the middle of the desert named Mohammed to spread the word of his existence to the rest of mankind?
That is scarcely enough to keep the mind alive.
Why not something awe inspiring that can't be denied? It's because... they made it up. And it's not even a good story!! It's a dangerous story and it's threatening the planet's survival.
@afellatjawad brother there is a book named "the universality of islam" wallahi if u read that book u will find not muslim even none muslims christians european american their own "smartest" people say that all science and technology you see today is from islam and muslims when europe lived in dark ages... and according to most famous european n whole world like ghandhi etc the best human being in human history is muhammed alaihe salam.. ther r mony things wich even muslims dont know....
I am getting a lot of undue criticism here in this channel.
I expect to be disagreed with because i am not a believer in your god. But there is no need to be hostile and rude towards me, or minus all my comments to hide my discussions.
Censorship is not a form of argument.
I dont believe in your god because there is no compelling evidence, and certainly no evidence which survives even basic scrutiny. I have not found one genuine miracle in the quran despite people claiming over 100.
This is damaging to not only education in science and intellectualism in general, but it also damages your religion.
Because you are slowly turning islam into the religion of scientific gimmicks.
You have been mislead to believing it contains so many facts which are sadly contorted and contrived to work with the verses, when infact it contains so little scientific knowledge (which was known about in 600CE) that it is fruitless to claim otherwise.
digitised .... your comment on the subject of Islamic domination of the world is an utter nonssence man .... other ones have some logics behind them but the one that deals with Islamic domination of the world shows that you know nothing about Islam , nor any other religion for that matter. Please go to the nearest library and rent a DVD titled "Islam the empire of faith " which was produced by BBC and watch it in its entirety. Thank you
I have another BBC doc in my favourites about the middle east called After Rome, which i saw on TV quite a while ago now.
The point i was responding to asserted that islam had conquered the world, when all records show the furthest it reached west was eastern europe (what isnt even today officially european) with the exception of a small spanish town which seemed to be a small sanctuary for an obscure muslim community.
With atheists there's something terribly wrong right from the start, that is they make a final statement about something they don't even know. Because some people have erroneous concepts about God, they say there can't possibly be a God. The agnostic on the other hand, at least he acknowledges that he doesn't know, and he's willing to listen. But the atheist is just too irrational and emotional to take that crucial step, and because of that I feel it's a big waste of time to talk to him.
Your misunderstanding the Agnostic position. An agnostic does not believe the God of any religion but in a higher power. So even an agnostic "denies" your God or the Christian God or any God you can concieve.
So, The agnostic is also an Atheist atleast to God currently popular.
Still no evidence for this God =/ Every Atheist is waiting for some.
No man can have 100% evidence in his hand of god and live, you will not be the human that you are now, you will be like a robot, you will not have the freedom anymore, the evidence will be too strong, overwhelming for your brain.
How can the evidence be too strong? Aren't there theists out there who BELIEVE God exists? What made them believe in it? Surely that same base can be tranferred to another person to help them believe, right?
If the evidence existed for God, It wouldn't be a matter of choice as you have already stated, but in the same way, You also have to then elaborate that your God is the True God, and not the Christian, Jew or muslim one etc.
I'm not an expert in the subject matter by any means to share with you. my comments were directed at the Efficiency and the Validity of your arguments and your presentation.
as far as I'm concern, you haven't proven or disprove anything.
It looks to me like your a wikipedia plagerist..lease take the time and effort to research credible sources that have not been altered by people that are afraid of the truth...
I have actually not taken anything mentioned here from wikipedia, i prefer a lot of material on talk-origins due to the peer reviewed nature of its sources.
However that has been exceptionally minimal, i think i only checked 1 scientific claim which i needed to revise.
Im not afriad of truth, you might be surprised to know that i only care for the truth and i do my best to check sources for bias. Incididently much islamic material tends to be blatantly poor, but you dont seem critical of that?
Once again, you are still assuming there will be a judgement day. I'm saying there won't be. Me and you are guessing into a black box and claiming we know what's inside. In turn, I can't say i know for certain what will happen, but I can tell you that your story is not going to happen due to alot of other outrageous premises having to be accepted first.
I challenge you to find even one fact in the quran which was revealed truth, not known or speculated about by anyone on this planet before the time of that revelation.
Please send me no more than the 3 top strongest claims you have. I am not going to spend my week explaining the supposed 200 revelations claimed by Harun Yahya. So present to me in a PM the strongest 3 you have.
I am open to being proven wrong, but as of yet i have found no revelation in any holy scripture.
And for all the muslims here who think he is an authority on islam and the quran, he has spoon fed his followers into believing that he is the Mahdi. He discusses the Mahdi extensively on all his websites and tries to draw subtle comparisons between himself and this messiah.
He also claims he was educated in philosophy at university, when he really studied interior design, and dropped out.
If he knew pigs were unhealthy (being a medical doctor...) he should take 30 mins at least to research why this is.
But he doesnt care or he is dishonest, he knows people are desperate for confirmation of miracles in the quran, exactly the same as christians are for miracles in the bible.
They have found just as much support for their delusions too.
Great flood? 6000 year old earth? Jesus being god?
Why do you have such a motivation, and determination in practically the polar alternative of a Christian Evangleist in propagating your godless ideology upon people?
If you accept only material, tangible objects as your evidence, then how can you accept that gaseous matter, gravity, dark matter, telecommunication signals or ANY invisible property, truely exists?
Rational skepticism is fine. Because by being rational. It's what led me BACK to Islam. Islam is RATIONAL there are NO mysteries or dogma. All that's needed is clarifcation and an intimiate understanding, not bouncing from topic to topic. No headway can be made
Now show me because you never answered my question in a convincing manner:
Show me a SINGLE so-called holy scripture which alludes to science as the Quran does, revealed 1400 years ago by an illiterate man in the middle of a desert.
I dont know if you understood me, but i claimed that no holy scriptures revealed anything scientific which was not known at the time they were written.
I even asked you to present me with your top 3 examples of miraculous revelation.
The quran was a more modern text given that it existed in an age where information was shared through universities and libraries. The bible and other older texts existed before such times and did not try to make bold claims about how things worked.
It is said that mohammed was illiterate, we cannot verify this since some people claim that traders (which was mohammeds profession) would have to be able to read and write in order to understand and create essential trade contracts.
Whether he was or wasnt is admittedly irrelevant because illiterate people still have adequate capacity to talk and learn from other people that do read and write.
And mohammed was very well aquainted with educated people who knew of greek and roman knowledge.
If i was illterate today, but discussed scientific subjects with educated physicists. I could gain a good understanding of how certain things operate.
If i then decided to claim i had received revelation from god and had people write my words down explaining links between time and gravity (pretty much covering basic corners of special relativity) then i would hardly be able to impress anyone when this knowledge, which was known about for nearly 100 years before by other people.
See but now you beg the question: If Muhammed was influenced by science of the time, then what DID such knowledge at that time offer?
Dr. Keith L. Moore clearly stated that, for example, embyology was studied by Aristotle, however NO system was developed to enable accurate classification of its stages, however the Quran and hadiths DO.
Muhammad was NOT exposed to any such knowledge because such knowledge simply never EXISTED 1400 years ago.
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Aristotle, Hippocrates, Plato, Galen etc all wrote about embryology.
If you read what is written in their books and compare it to the statements in the quran they are almost word for word.
Including the errors.
All of this information was publised over 500years before mohammed was born, and was taught from the 5th century onward in the Gundeshupar school of medicine in india.
there are docktors that have seen unbelievable cases where people should be dead and they say it must be a miracle of god that he survived but yet most of them don't turn to religion so you are saying because keith moore didnt convert to islam God doesnt excist?
1= the fact that the Quran stated 1400 years ago that God would preserve the body of this pharoa(3000YEARS old) to be a warning to all corrupt leaders
2=that this pharoa isnt a MUMMIE meaning he wasnt balsemd,removed of his organs etc &this pharoa is even better preserved then the mummies they have found before...after doctor maurice bukhaille found out the Quran stated this 1400years ago he became MUSLIM &wrote a book about it " The Bible,The Quran&science ..BUY IT & READ IT...
Out of sincerety, what I suggest digitised, is that an educated individual of your calibre go out and purchase a translated meaning of the Quran.
They're not that expensive. The reason why I suggest such a thing is because we can sit here all day, throwing youtube comments back and forth but to understand Islam by taking extracts of verses may or may not reach someone's heart.
The Quran is an unending chain of narration, consequently, the meaning is understood in its whole.
Also it is said by Darwin that the building blocks of human morality are Compassion, Empathy and Sympathy.
Are these only unique to humans?? NO!!
Look around at other species, how they exist in their natural habitats. Watch the documentary "Why Dogs Smile and Chimpanzees Cry"
/watch?v=O101aJ-XGPc
kanjarify1111 1 month ago
@kanjarify1111 Muslims scholars and researchers already knew this information before Darwin was even born.
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Many people assume that the "science" in the Quran is indeed a miracle, but it is only perceived as being a miracle by those whose first encountered the concepts in the quran, i.e. the first time they read of such "scientific" concepts was only in the quran and not in another textbook.
Secondly, lets be honest here, the "science" in the quran was already known to mankind
hundred/thousands of years before the quran, mainly in greek and egyptian civilizations...those who search HARD will find!!
kanjarify1111 1 month ago
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If you wish to challenge me atleast show that you can keep an
open mind about it, after all if your holy bibles are as holy/miraculous as you claim then you should not fear any criticism.
Also, most of the "scientific concepts" in the quran are as vague as when they were first revealed by their respective/original philosophers/scientists in ancient civilisations. Islamic scholars distort the already vague sentences and make them fit the known science today!!
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In name of ALLAH , the age of earth is the age of its formation not the age of it material, and the age of its material is older than the age of its formation in Quran chapter 41 verses 9,10 ALLAH says he created earth material in 2 days and formed earth in another 2 days and in chapter 57:4 he says he created the heavens and the earth in six days so earth formed after 4 days so it age is 2 days or one third the universe age 13.75 minou error of 0.13 = 13.62 divid by 3 = 4.54 = earth age.
Mohammed54445 1 month ago
@Mohammed54445 Thats just so wrong.
Where do i even begin? The earth is 4.55bn years old and the universe 13.7bn 'currently'.
But at every other point in time that trivial mathematical forcing fails. Try a 15bn year old universe and see how earth gets older faster than everything else lol.
Also the earth is finished by day 4...so shouldn't you be dividing by 2 since the universe got made in the 1st 2 days? Why pick day 6?
Oh yeah, because you don't care about objective reasoning.
digitised 1 month ago
In name of ALLAH, the heavens and the earth created in 6 days,and earth formed after 4 days passed the estimated age of earth is the age of its formation as a planet based on the formation of oldest rock on earth crust which formed after 4 days because its the upper layer of earth, which left 2 days remaining when the remaining 2 days passed this became the age of oldest rock on earth crust=estimated age of earth based on the formation of oldest rock on earth crust=2 days 2/6=1/3, 13.62/3=4.54
Mohammed54445 1 month ago
@Mohammed54445
If all this was known in the Quran then why only recently have muslims "revealed" this information? In other words this should have been established within the first few years after the Quran was scribed and revealed. But of course muslims wait for the scientific result then skew their "theory" in order to make it fit. If the age of the Earth was say a different number than 4.5bill im sure muslims would invent a theory to make it stick aswell. Pathetic really, misguiding others.
kanjarify1111 1 week ago
when i build a house in a year this means the time of its building lasted for a year and when 10 years pass its building time remain one year, the 6 days are the days of univers creation you may say why that didnot happen already because we are(1 mi yr age of human max) in the last day of the univers creation an example when i build a house in a year and after one day i say to the people around me i have built may house in a year then no one will deny it the Quran was revealed 1,400 years ago.
Mohammed54445 1 month ago
@Mohammed54445 No it didn't reveal it, you just made it up.
Just like all those other liars who distort passages in old books to dress them up like miracles. Stop lying, isn't it a sin in your religion? Wont god punish you for lying to people and making crap up?
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Any wonder why 500M Arabs are so backward compared to 20M Jews?
500M Arabs had no Nobel prize winner except given honararily
500M Arabs invented nothing and produced no technology
Just look at the Jews, made their deserts bloom, who control
world finance, had a hand in most of the hi tech inventions, nuclear fision, rocket science. Arabs have problems hoisting a camel up 3 stories without Jewish tech.
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MrPeacelov 2 months ago
@prototype00000 woman are desinged for man, but okay it has the same meaning
9kuuby9 2 months ago
yeah lets carry on feeling big about ourselves, or alternatively accept the truth no matter how hopeless it may seem to you ,as richard feynman said "id rather know nothing about the universe than to believe in something which is wrong" out of the 10s of thousands of gods which have existed and will exist in epochs to come theres no reason to believe in any one of them. "We are all athiests, but i just go one further"
ThanksDoctorThoctor 3 months ago
For those of you who believe in an Intelligent Design of the Universe, and whose Faith is Strong, i invite you to watch a video that presents an alterative perspective.
If Truth is on your side, watching the video (of an astrophysicist) can only result in your belief being strenghtened by it.
Search on youtube for --> "Neil deGrasse Tyson destroys intelligent design"
Thanks.
541515141741952 4 months ago
@541515141741952 yes!
ThanksDoctorThoctor 3 months ago
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541515141741952 4 months ago
BRAVO...I LOVE THIS SPEECH...MY ENGLISH IS BAD ,, BUT IM SURE IM UNDERSTAND ENOUGH,,,,THANKS FOR UPLOAD.
SUTIKNORJ99 5 months ago
56 ppl cant handle the truth ahahahahahahah
sonia26625 6 months ago
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A vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
becharev 6 months ago
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Islam is nothing but a fraud meant to justify whatever Muhammad wanted to do.
The best example of this is when he lusted after his adopted son's wife. Arab customs naturally wouldn't allow him to have his [adopted] daughter-in-law. So, he proceeded to have a "revelation" that adoption should be forbidden, and then ended up marring her.
This man's whole life was scandalous. He was a pedophile, polygamist and war criminal. How he can be regarded as a prophet is beyond comprehension.
shivrajvishnu 7 months ago
@uncleady1
im not knocking you for it, i just think your mind is confused. the greatest trick for the devil is convincing people he doesnt exist, so if you dont believe in the devil you never knew your initial thoughts were possibly not your own. your acceptance of them eventually made them your own. modern society has convinced most people relegion (islam) is false & science disproves it when it does no such thing. the people running the world ironically believe in relegion but dont want u to
prototype00000 9 months ago
@uncleady1
no you misunderstand me, i never once said you are immoral, infact i implied you do have morals but then i asked you where you get them from, i presented a scenario where relegion gives a reason to stop me from killing for a kidney where it would be beneficial for me to take it, science is your counter to combat religion where it obviously does not provide morals, but my relegion obviously did provide in this instance for me.
prototype00000 9 months ago
@uncleady1
athiests fueled by science have not got their morals from science which they use to counter relegion. so morality is more in relation with relegion. if we all did what was scientefically best for us then things would be alot worse then they already are. should he steal that kidney? scientefically yes he should as he will suffer without it, morally no as its wrong. athiests have some morals from somewhere but where?
whos to say whats right or wrong?
prototype00000 9 months ago
@uncleady1
im sure your not really from thailand, but i know why you wish you were
prototype00000 9 months ago
@uncleady1
yes god did not create us to be gay, it is immoral & going against god, or if u dont believe in god then mother nature as a woman is obviously designed for man, one has a prick, the other has a hole...it goes in and leads to pregnancy. the gay way is to stick up a hole which is the human sewer. your right theres no morals without relegion, im glad we agree
prototype00000 9 months ago
بارك الله بالاستاذ المفكر والعالم الدكتور زغلول النجار على علمه الواسع وثقافته العالية وتبيانه لمعجزات القران والسنة العلمية التي تبين عظمة الاسلام
dkamil147 10 months ago
Muhammada Rasululah...sws
hich101 11 months ago
@amrhima The intrigueing part of all this is that, this man, who has been documented more then any man in the whole of history, has till this date not be proven to be an imposter, the biggest concern for those tackling for an alternative in Muhammad(pbuh)'s case is, that there's just as likely a chance that he did have contact with Divinity than if he didn't.
Perseveranze 1 year ago
@amrhima His sincerity in this belief must be accepted by the modern historian, for this alone makes credible the development of a great religion. The further question, however, whether the messages came from Muhammad's unconscious, or the collective unconscious functioning in him, or from some divine source, is beyond the competence of the historian."
Perseveranze 1 year ago
@amrhima There is thus a strong case for holding that Muhammad was sincere. If in some respects he was mistaken, his mistakes were not due to deliberate lying or imposture[73] ....the important point is that the message was not the product of Muhammad's conscious mind. He believed that he could easily distinguish between his own thinking and these revelations.
Perseveranze 1 year ago
@amrhima "Only a profound belief in himself and his mission explains Muhammad's readiness to endure hardship and persecution during the Meccan period when from a secular point of view there was no prospect of success. Without sincerity how could he have won the allegiance and even devotion of men of strong and upright character like Abu-Bakr and 'Umar ? ...
Perseveranze 1 year ago
@amrhima Peace,
I invite you to study in depth the life of Muhammad(pbuh). Many Non-Muslim intellects who has studied this man's life in depth have documented a honest fact, the chances of him being an imposter is less likely than him being truthful to his word - this is something no one can say for any other person in history who claims to have made contact with the Divine. I will quote you one famous historian, who many in todays age fully agree with without objections.
Perseveranze 1 year ago
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due to this illiterate europe saw the light? with the same reasoning we should blame the butterfly for the storm and thank Hitler for avoiding the world's over-population....the distant results of an action do not make an argument in favor of the action.
amrhima 1 year ago
Did the Quran unravelled the mysteries of body and mind ? ? ?
pinky88bloom 1 year ago
Muslims should also take time in reading about Scientific Ideas and understand about our Universe and Space. Most Muslims study just the Quran and think it is everything, that's wrong. Quran never forbids you from learning something new does it, So why Ignore Modern Science and Ideas ?
If all the Muslims start to understand Science and how it works, they realize how advanced West is and perhaps, they start to contribute to Science too. How many Muslims contribute at this age ? Think about it..
forgottenmemories63 1 year ago
@forgottenmemories63 We don't ignore modern science, are you serious?
Nothing could be clearer than the famous Hadith of the Prophet: “Seek for science, even in China”, or the other hadith which says that the search for knowledge is a strict duty for every Muslim man and woman.
I agree though, more Muslims shoulds get into the field of Science. But keep in mind there are some Muslim converts who are indeed Scientists that do contribute in this age.
Perseveranze 1 year ago
@forgottenmemories63 thank you. but we were participating in science even before the europeans. And isha ahhah, we will realise and start doing that again. And stop the conflict among ourselves.
SuperMaryam16 1 year ago
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Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
Is that supposed to be the final messenger of God?
thanks but no thanks.... you can keep him
Muzzieslayer1 1 year ago
Islam and Christianity will develop this world in a joint effort based on the Bible and vQur’an.
jrnjames1 1 year ago
@jrnjames1 we have already reached to that point. It is happening... Islam and Qur'an always win.
SuperMaryam16 1 year ago
A great lecture. Some really great verses explained.
Anybody that believes anyone other than God could have revealed these facts is clearly deceiving themselves.
Listen to the info and then research to see if the Greeks or Indians knew anything about the layers of the sea, different sea water and the positions of the stars.
There are many other scientific signs in the Quran other than these including the measured use of rain water.
Wake up and smell the Zam Zam!!!! lol
Saracen187 1 year ago
@wassoh please study the Quran first and then come here and debate my friend.
sniperdesi23 1 year ago
countless of people convert to islam after it has been demonised by the media, now just imagine how many would be converting if islam didn't have a bad name, the whole world would be peacefull and praying shoulder to shoulder.
real4champions 1 year ago 2
in the beginning you will make fun of islam then you will fight it as hard as you can then at last you will give up and you will be a muslim,,,,so why don't you take a short cut and accept islam right away,,,its easy just say after me,,i bear witness that there is no god but allah and muhamed peace be upon him is his prophet and so was jesus,,,
allahu akbar,,,welcome to your new heaven brother
sroursss 1 year ago 2
@sroursss
LOL So true. I used to fight Islam as well until I converted
kiddo500 1 year ago 2
@kiddo500 may allah guide us all to the stright path i was ashemed to say i am a muslim after 9 11 alhamdullilah i am thank ful to allah the only true god that i am muslim... may allah guide us all
afglionheart 1 year ago
@sroursss the fact you made fun of it and that you fought it hard makes your now conviction stronger than of someone who's muslim just because he was born muslim :)
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IslamIsTheTruth99 1 year ago
Does Zaghloul Mohammad Al Najjar have a paper where he explains how mountains stabilize the earth, how clay constitutes men...? I would urge anyone to present a paper that passed peer reviews making these claims and statements.
dakodar 1 year ago
@dakodar EATS 1010 will explain to u all u need, schooling is very essential
marcstylzzz 1 year ago
@marcstylzzz could you give a paper, written source? It seems like a course.
dakodar 1 year ago
@dakodar clearly i can't provide you a paper through the net, but its a part of geology called Isostacy where mountains with heavy masses have roots much deeper than its height with comparably lesser density to compensate for the buoyancy above the asthenosphere, I goto york university in toronto canada and this is my field of study.
marcstylzzz 1 year ago
@marcstylzzz But the reference would do, I can look it up (have access). I simply have not seen it stated in any science book. But again, I can be wrong.
dakodar 1 year ago
@dakodar right now, the only reference i can provide you is wiki: isostacy and read it carefully, as i cannot send u links here on youtube. But if you wanna know about something, you should go and research it yourself rather than challenging people to bring it for you, something which is evident.
marcstylzzz 1 year ago
@marcstylzzz That is not true. i did research and found no source providing any hint towards mountains stabilizing the earth. Hence, at that point I can only request others to provide some. The reference you gave says nothing in particular about mountains, nor about the statement that the crust is stable in the first place (which it is not).
dakodar 1 year ago
Precision is measured in Accurate Mathematical Values and Proofs not made up words of a desert nomad on crack in the middle of the night on a high mountain...
sesshy34 1 year ago
@sesshy34 Was that all you could do? Randomly offend Muhammed just because you can't find any of his mistakes? For example, you said he was a nomad (wrong) then you said he was on crack (wrong) and you say he made up these words (wrong)
Three wrongs in 1 comment, you better share your sources or proof to prove your point(s).
MasterNoor 1 year ago
@MasterNoor Please..... Quran might have Random teachings to offer to illiterate people that have no awareness of Science or how our world works but it is NOT for educated people who already know our Universe and how it works. There is no Allah in our Universe right now, neither does many Quranic verses hold true. Ex - One verses states "God created Earth and then the heavens, stars and other worlds". We know Earth was created long after the Sun and our Universe so Quran is against Science.
sesshy34 1 year ago
@sesshy34 HOw stupid could people be, thinking that science proves God wrong.... Science is a blessing of God so idiots like you can understand the phenomenon of events around you, rather than blaming God for hurricanes and earthquakes.
Firstly, IT"S NOWHERE MENTIONED that God created EARTH and then the Heavens,
Secondly, which retarded school taught you that Earth was created long after the sun, when both are dated to be 4.54 billion years old. so get your shit straight before accusing.
marcstylzzz 1 year ago
@MasterNoor Proof that Muhammad made up Stuff from Bible and Talmuds and added to Quran :
1> Adam was a prophet according to Muhammad. Prophet to who ? His dick ? Adam was the first man according to Bible, not a Prophet.
2> Quran was wrote many years AFTER the Bible. Muslims jump to the point that Bible is corrupted, even Quran had its time where it was destroyed and several people recorded verses on sticks and stones.
3> Jesus was crucified no doubt about it, there are lots of proof of this.
sesshy34 1 year ago
@MasterNoor 4> The Quran states that all the Prophets are sent by Allah to mankind are the Seeds of Ibrahim. (Abraham). So does that mean "Adam" himself was a descendant of Ibrahim ? Quran contradicts itself here.
5> The Holy Quran states "Geocentric Model" of our Solar system, saying Sun revolved around the Earth. Muhammad clearly copied these ideas from ancient Greek ideas of that day.
6> Several stories in Quran are mismatched and does not suit the timeline of Bible some are sumerian legends.
sesshy34 1 year ago
@sesshy34 This is no way to carry a debate. You talk as your point is flawless and any other point other than yours is deemed by automatic unworthy to even consider. Having a discussion is for people with different views on a topic to learn from each other, nobody is perfect, not even you.
Why don't you take time and discuss one topic at a time instead of flooding the comment page with random points without reason.
MasterNoor 1 year ago
@sesshy34
You christians.. You speak without knowledge.
You just attack Islam out of pride and jealousy.
Bring us the proof of what you say if you are truthful.
Read it and be sincere with your Lord. He is Oft Forgiving, All Loving.
superkugeta 1 year ago
@superkugeta True Christians would never do that, here is a secret to all my muslim fellows, its the dumb atheists who start shit by portraying themselves as christians. They're just scared to face the truth. i know cuz i have tried it on enough of them face to face.
marcstylzzz 1 year ago
@superkugeta Christians speak without knowlodge? you follow a pedhofile and christhians are the ones without knowledge? hahahahahaha Islam is only just another satanist cult
afemil 1 year ago
@afemil
Do you believe that Jesus fathered a child by Mary Magdeline?
Gr8Gaia 1 year ago
@afemil @ThePsalm40 The Qur'an is clearly a book about the same god as you worship, descended from the Semite polytheism that came before it. Satan is Ba'al Zebub , just another son of EL like Jehovah. You knuckleheads have no clue what you are arguing about.
Like fighting about who is stronger, the turtle god or the snake god.
It's the 21st century, step out of the bronze age for 5 seconds and look around
samwilson3d 1 year ago
@samwilson3d Sure!
afemil 1 year ago
@sesshy34 please tell me you just graduated from kindergarten. please give references to ur points rather than ranting ur mouth like its a hip hop or something. please and thank you
marcstylzzz 1 year ago
@sesshy34 4- lol what a logic go back to school ... the Prophets After Abraham not before .. where is ur brain ?
5- heh where huh ? show me where it says that
6- again show me
snaforfun 1 year ago
@sesshy34 LOL AT PROOF OF CRUCIFIXION, nvm lots, show me one. Jesus (PBUH) was/is untouchable, you can't harm someone who's been promised to be protected by God himself. and yes if u want, i can prove the corruption in it. and adam was teh first prophet cuz God promised that this world will never be without guidance, so to keep[ his promise, adam had to be a prophet. YOu wouldnt understand it, cuz u have the habit of making a fool of yourself everytime, everywhere.
marcstylzzz 1 year ago
@sesshy34 I was going to reply to u but after u said bad words i knew u are satan human
not worthy of talking to u
snaforfun 1 year ago
@MasterNoor Brother do not bother and waste your time with someone like him, there are those who use logic to debate and those who use lies, the logic can easliy be debated but the lies it will only waste your time I have read all the comments this biggot has written and none of them quotes a single source. So why waste your time with him.
szuhbi 1 year ago
@szuhbi Jazakom Allah khaer for your reply. Alhamdulillah I have noticed this. So is with all other empty comments.
I wish you well my brother. May Allah reward you.
MasterNoor 1 year ago
@sesshy34 I call this kid, an envious desperate immoral sadistic reject of nature
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What is the Q U R A N ?
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A rab
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now you know .
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What is the Q U R A N ?
Q uestionable
U ttering of a
R abid
A rab
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now you know .
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charaurat 1 year ago
being on youtube creates graven images
uturniaphobic 1 year ago
89: Al Fajr
Is there (not) in these and adjuration (or evidence) for those who understand? (5) Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the `Ad (people)― (6) Of the (city of) Iram, with lofty pillars, (7) The like of which were not produced in (all) the land? (8) And with the Thamud (people) who cut out (huge) rocks in the valley?-- (9) And with Pharaoh, Lord of Stakes? (10) (All) these transgressed beyond bounds in the lands. (11)
alfatourist 1 year ago
By the way, chapter 8 is al Anfaal, not Al Qasas
alfatourist 1 year ago
The bottom line is The Quran was revealed over the 23 years during prophet's life as the messenger of Allah, and it is 100 percent accurate, not discrepancy, no error. Other scriptures have infiltrations,errors, discrepancy, as the speaker said.
alfatourist 1 year ago
@alfatourist Is contradiction error?
Can Allah be seen and did Muhammad see his Lord? Yes [S. 53:1-18, 81:15-29], No [6:102-103, 42:51].
RockStudioLive 1 year ago
@alfatourist Part of the quran was eaten by a goat...so it is not complete.
chrisfellows 1 year ago
@chrisfellows
rele?
how was the quran preserved?
il tell you the companions of muhammad remembered it by heart so how can a goat eat it? lol
saqib9876 1 year ago
@saqib9876 Yes,,,the Shia muslims say that Koran is incomplete because some of the verses were eaten by a goat who entered the house while Muhamad was being mourned...my question is why did Allah send that goat to the house? Do u know why?
chrisfellows 1 year ago
@chrisfellows
doesnt matter if the goat ate it? muhammad knows the quran fully in his head.
saqib9876 1 year ago
@saqib9876Well it is a matter of opinion and you are entitled to it.. Question is, how can convincing can you get? Unless a human being is endowed with supernatural power, I doubt if he can memorize unwritten text and recall it with a high level of accuracy. It is one thing to memorize a book, it is another thing to memorize unwritten text. Is this fair statement?
chrisfellows 1 year ago
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@chrisfellows And another question: why did Allah create Shiittes and Sunnis who have been killing each other for centuries.
MsBaystater 1 year ago
@saqib9876 Do you know that even microchips sometimes fails too completely record data? So why do you expect humans to remember and recall everything? Sometimes humans forget when they cannot have sex, water and food..in those days women, water and food are scarce in the desert, so how can those companions remember all? They were not superhumans like super mario , right ?
chrisfellows 1 year ago
@chrisfellows
by this comment im not even going to try.theres millions of hafiz of the quran.thats all i have to say.
saqib9876 1 year ago
@chrisfellows whose da goat? ur mama!
hich101 1 year ago
Alone these 1000 verses that point to signs from Allah are not in any other place. Also, who ever has read the Quran will appreciate the uniqueness of the Quran. As an example, Allah mentions Pharoah & Hamaan so many times in the Quran (A Qasas, chapter 8) and tells him to build the tower to see Moses's god. Hamaan is not mentioned anywhere else. We learned about Hamaan after the discoveries in Egypt. Another example, The Quran mentions city of Iram, found in scrolls discovered in Syria.
alfatourist 1 year ago
@alfatourist Please quote the verses for the mention of Iram.
RockStudioLive 1 year ago
@digitised the quran have many verses describing people like you. its so accurate that its amazing. i wont bother write it down since you know everything. and the more you talk, the more you make me believe that your tryin to convince yourself and not others. thats y no one wants to argue. coz we done searching. good luck with urs.
AboKm5 1 year ago
is there any holy book from any religion can show me a single miracles with proof as it was mentioned in our quran which is sent by allah(the almighty)....if there is anybody....show it to me
ssajafali 1 year ago
quran -if you kill a human is like you kill the hole human kind .if you save a human its like you save the hole human kind. but bibel - if a burglere comes to your home and your wife tryis to help you .kill your wife not the guilty one. your lord in your bibel killd 50.000 children and womman. in your bibel a profhet hade sex with his mom . is that GOD ? or work of SATAN POUL ?
MrDeathafterlife 1 year ago
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Christianity and Islam operate and has survived using the same tactics. Shoot an arrow and then draw circles around it. Pure nonsense, meaning garbage that only appears as enlightened by those attracted to darkness.
adm0si 1 year ago
the real muslim did not kill innocent people.
Searched for the truth what is Islam
Do not listen to the media for distorting Islam. And I hope from God, that guide you all. see the web please >>
thedeenshow . com
saswsz 1 year ago 39
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wassoh 1 year ago
@wassoh Read the book "The Bible, The Quran & Science", written by a NON-MUSLIM.
Or watch this - /watch?v=wGbQvx4Ej_k&feature=related
That's just "some" of the top scientists talking about the Quran's science, none of who have yet been challenged.
Perseveranze 1 year ago
@saswsz Do you have real data who killed more people on this earth? If you dont know..then I tell you..that is USA
mzs100 1 year ago
StopSpamming1 >>>> 1- Muslims believe that anyone reading the Koran automatically believes everything. >>>> ya alot of people when they read quran they belive it so what worng with it does that make quran worng ???
2- The Koran is 60% Bibles ..>> can u show me one ? 3- 10% Arab fables can u show me one ? 4- and 20% repetition are u talking about your fake bible ? blind u cant see it ya i know u didnt watch the video cos u fear the truth ? can u debate with me and proof to me what u said ?
muslims4you 1 year ago 6
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Why don't you first do what I asked and then we go to general questions?
I want this because your questions need some time and space. I know this because I just wrote a book about it.
So let's do one step at a time, ok?
StopSpamming1 1 year ago
I welcome you in our Room In Paltalk to debate the topic and then we can put it in youtube for every one to lsiten to it . .... u can add me in paltalk my name is happy-omar i am waiting for you .
muslims4you 1 year ago 5
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@StopSpamming1 u write another bible?... or bubble perhaps? let the cocroaches write about cocroaches... perhaps u need time and space of the dark stinky corners.. why not write a kindergarten stories instead?
GoodBinGood 1 year ago
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fridaysabtu 2 years ago
Lol digitised loves spamming these boards brothers and sisters, enjoy his rants.
RachZi 2 years ago
Rachzi, you do not seem interested in discussing these issues.
Instead you assume to be absolutely correct in your position, yet offer me no refutations, or proof as to why that is so.
You are persistantly rude and do nothing except avoid actually having to talk to me by making cheap attacks on my character.
I have made considerable effort here to be polite and explain the other side of these miracle claims, because 1 sided propaganda does not reveal the problems with them.
digitised 2 years ago
It is your duty to be honest, your god is supposed to hate when you lie.
So i am appealing to your honesty to check these 'miracles' thoroughly, through genuine scientists who specialise in the fields relevant to each claim.
Because there is a lot of money to be made in book/dvd sales, when you have over 1 billion devoted people who want to be told of miracles in their holy book.
Surely it is worrying when NONE of the main authors/originators of these books is a muslim or scientist.
digitised 2 years ago
I am geniunely warning you not to believe these people because they are using you.
It has nothing to do with your faith, i dont care what god, if any, you believe in.
I care that people are used, extorted, and manipulated. Fooled into believing things which are demonstrably untrue.
Many new islamic converts are convinced to join soley because of these 'miracle' claims. They would not be muslims today if it wasnt for people like bucaille or haruan yahya, who knowingly lie for money.
digitised 2 years ago
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Just because i am an atheist, it does not mean i am incapable of honesty or compassion.
I see these claims as false and i am trying to peacefully show you this, so you can start to realise that these people are doing your religion no good.
They are damaging education and the minds of a whole new generation, who will likely now refuse to overturn their faith in these fallacious claims, they will do what Rachzi does and laugh at people who show them proof, and rational explanations.
digitised 2 years ago
Again, philosophy 101. New atheists always claiming to be on the intellectual higher ground.
I've heard it all before, nothing new. The fact Dawkins (your Pope) has actually presented the possibility that life on earth could have been due to aliens is insanity.
No, I'm not interested in discussion anymore with you, because you have already made up your mind, and the ONLY One that can guide is Allah.
To you be your way, and to me mine. Thank you for strengthening our believe in Islam.
RachZi 2 years ago 3
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Richard Dawkins does not claim life started due to alien intervention, he offered that as an alternative example to Ben Stein when discussing origins in the movie 'crossroads' which was later changed to 'Expelled'.
The entire interview was done under false pretences and Dawkins was asked obscure questions in an effort to make evolution seem unable to explain the diversity of life.
digitised 2 years ago
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Abiogenesis is the best explanation of how life can arise on a fertile planet such as our own. No miralces needed to occur for simple life to begin here, and some 4.1 billion years ago simple self replicating cells did form and left evidence.
If you read some of Dawkins scientific books maybe you would realise how badly you have been mislead about what he thinks, hes a very smart man and only angry with religion because it attacks the work and livlihood of himself and his colleagues.
digitised 2 years ago
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Again however you are falsely attacking me, I have made no claims to holding the intellectual higher ground, although you continually prove you are unable to hold a rational discussion.
Atheism is not a religion, and there is no organised belief or social tradition. If you want to talk about my influences i would not put Dawkins as a 'pope', I much prefer Aristotle, Hume, Nietzche and also respect the debating skills of Chrisopher Hitchens and Matt Dillahunty (who you can find on youtube).
digitised 2 years ago
Yeah, I've seen your Idols.
They're quite dogmatic to say the least. It always amazing me how New Atheists come with this false cloak of understanding and openess, however when you produce rational and cogent answers (as you have experienced before) they scurry away and scoff in arrogance.
The fact is, digitised, is that you DO NOT come from a point of view of diaglogue, rather a DOGMATIC approach, similar to that of Dawkins or Hitches (I'm sorry, not your Pope... Your IDOL[S].)
RachZi 2 years ago
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Rachzi instead of making accusations of my character (which i do disagree with) why dont you present to me the rational and cogent proof you have for the existence of the islamic god?
I have not run away once in this discussion, i have spent if anything far too much time here trying to make my position clear and honest.
However many people have minused my comments to the point of invisibility, ignoring the need to actually refute my claims.
If i am wrong show me where.
digitised 2 years ago
Read the Quran.
Are you a man of knowledge or not? What's stopping you, it doesn't bite.
RachZi 2 years ago
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If Allah created humans, animals, the earth, the sky and in fact the ENTIRE universe..... then why do you think he chose some illiterate fuckhead in the middle of the desert named Mohammed to spread the word of his existence to the rest of mankind?
That is scarcely enough to keep the mind alive.
Why not something awe inspiring that can't be denied? It's because... they made it up. And it's not even a good story!! It's a dangerous story and it's threatening the planet's survival.
jazzyazz 2 years ago
due to this illiterate :) europe saw the light , u can read story .
afellatjawad 1 year ago 17
@afellatjawad peace and blessings be up on our beloved prophet and all prophets of ours ibrahim musa issa muhammed
afglionheart 1 year ago
@afellatjawad brother there is a book named "the universality of islam" wallahi if u read that book u will find not muslim even none muslims christians european american their own "smartest" people say that all science and technology you see today is from islam and muslims when europe lived in dark ages... and according to most famous european n whole world like ghandhi etc the best human being in human history is muhammed alaihe salam.. ther r mony things wich even muslims dont know....
afglionheart 1 year ago
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Read the Bible, at least it makes sense, instead of this book of hate you call holly (and you call the new atheists dogmatic? hahahaha)
afemil 2 years ago
And btw, I'm not saying that to get you off my back. The reasons why are clear:
1) Islam is the fastest growing way of life subsequently
2) Islam is going to play a signifigant role in furture global interaction (ref. demographics esp. in Europe) and
3) The Quran is the only scripture that is even being considered a debate regarding its scientific claims.
You owe it to yourself to investigate it through its source: The Holy Quran.
May Allah guide you.
RachZi 2 years ago
فَإِذَا انسَلَخَ الأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُوا لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَد ٍ فَإِنْ تَابُوا وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلاَةَ وَآتَوُا الزَّكَاةَ فَخَلُّوا سَبِيلَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُور ٌ رَحِيم
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
My comment was supposed to be posted to the muslim who wrote you for your religion and me to mine sentiment.
I can't find that post now, But if someone spots it, ask him what he thinks of the verse posted in arabic.
RockStudioLive 2 years ago
I am getting a lot of undue criticism here in this channel.
I expect to be disagreed with because i am not a believer in your god. But there is no need to be hostile and rude towards me, or minus all my comments to hide my discussions.
Censorship is not a form of argument.
I dont believe in your god because there is no compelling evidence, and certainly no evidence which survives even basic scrutiny. I have not found one genuine miracle in the quran despite people claiming over 100.
digitised 2 years ago
All i see happening is people with reasonable academic qualifications taking advantage of peoples faith.
People such as Maurice Bucaille, Zakir Naik and others, are not scientists and have no specialisation in the topics they discuss.
Bucaille and Naik are M.D's, they practice health not physics, chemistry, cosmology, evolutionary biology, genetics etc
This is why there claims contain errors. So many people unquestioningly accept these claims, when there is no good reason to do so.
digitised 2 years ago
This is damaging to not only education in science and intellectualism in general, but it also damages your religion.
Because you are slowly turning islam into the religion of scientific gimmicks.
You have been mislead to believing it contains so many facts which are sadly contorted and contrived to work with the verses, when infact it contains so little scientific knowledge (which was known about in 600CE) that it is fruitless to claim otherwise.
Is your faith being degraded by trickery?
digitised 2 years ago
islamic - awareness . org
zakuk77 2 years ago
digitised .... your comment on the subject of Islamic domination of the world is an utter nonssence man .... other ones have some logics behind them but the one that deals with Islamic domination of the world shows that you know nothing about Islam , nor any other religion for that matter. Please go to the nearest library and rent a DVD titled "Islam the empire of faith " which was produced by BBC and watch it in its entirety. Thank you
Anomiman 2 years ago 5
I have another BBC doc in my favourites about the middle east called After Rome, which i saw on TV quite a while ago now.
The point i was responding to asserted that islam had conquered the world, when all records show the furthest it reached west was eastern europe (what isnt even today officially european) with the exception of a small spanish town which seemed to be a small sanctuary for an obscure muslim community.
Ill try and watch that other when i get time.
digitised 2 years ago
With atheists there's something terribly wrong right from the start, that is they make a final statement about something they don't even know. Because some people have erroneous concepts about God, they say there can't possibly be a God. The agnostic on the other hand, at least he acknowledges that he doesn't know, and he's willing to listen. But the atheist is just too irrational and emotional to take that crucial step, and because of that I feel it's a big waste of time to talk to him.
MustafaAlKanadi 2 years ago
Your misunderstanding the Agnostic position. An agnostic does not believe the God of any religion but in a higher power. So even an agnostic "denies" your God or the Christian God or any God you can concieve.
So, The agnostic is also an Atheist atleast to God currently popular.
Still no evidence for this God =/ Every Atheist is waiting for some.
ADeepVoice 2 years ago
No man can have 100% evidence in his hand of god and live, you will not be the human that you are now, you will be like a robot, you will not have the freedom anymore, the evidence will be too strong, overwhelming for your brain.
it is a blessing that we have freedom to choose.
peace
LAfatjoe 2 years ago
How can the evidence be too strong? Aren't there theists out there who BELIEVE God exists? What made them believe in it? Surely that same base can be tranferred to another person to help them believe, right?
If the evidence existed for God, It wouldn't be a matter of choice as you have already stated, but in the same way, You also have to then elaborate that your God is the True God, and not the Christian, Jew or muslim one etc.
ADeepVoice 2 years ago
Can you please share with me even 1% of this evidence?
I would appreciate it.
digitised 2 years ago
I'm not an expert in the subject matter by any means to share with you. my comments were directed at the Efficiency and the Validity of your arguments and your presentation.
as far as I'm concern, you haven't proven or disprove anything.
LAfatjoe 2 years ago
It looks to me like your a wikipedia plagerist..lease take the time and effort to research credible sources that have not been altered by people that are afraid of the truth...
soa123456789 2 years ago
I have actually not taken anything mentioned here from wikipedia, i prefer a lot of material on talk-origins due to the peer reviewed nature of its sources.
However that has been exceptionally minimal, i think i only checked 1 scientific claim which i needed to revise.
Im not afriad of truth, you might be surprised to know that i only care for the truth and i do my best to check sources for bias. Incididently much islamic material tends to be blatantly poor, but you dont seem critical of that?
digitised 2 years ago
HAY ADeepVoice, I guess you will have to wait till you die and reserected on the day of JUDGEMENT and then you will see
umfpimps 2 years ago
@umfpimps
Once again, you are still assuming there will be a judgement day. I'm saying there won't be. Me and you are guessing into a black box and claiming we know what's inside. In turn, I can't say i know for certain what will happen, but I can tell you that your story is not going to happen due to alot of other outrageous premises having to be accepted first.
ADeepVoice 2 years ago
We are not assuming there will be a judgment day. We as Muslims KNOW there will be.
See, in Islam, there's faith, and there's evidence to believe IN that faith, as opposed to ANY OTHER scripture in man's existence!
I CHALLENGE YOU to find another religious scripture which contains the Signs as the Quran does!
RachZi 2 years ago
I challenge you to find even one fact in the quran which was revealed truth, not known or speculated about by anyone on this planet before the time of that revelation.
Please send me no more than the 3 top strongest claims you have. I am not going to spend my week explaining the supposed 200 revelations claimed by Harun Yahya. So present to me in a PM the strongest 3 you have.
I am open to being proven wrong, but as of yet i have found no revelation in any holy scripture.
digitised 2 years ago
@digitised
Harun Yahya got refuted a long time ago, Where have you been?
ADeepVoice 2 years ago
Oh i know all about Haryn Yahya and his cult.
And for all the muslims here who think he is an authority on islam and the quran, he has spoon fed his followers into believing that he is the Mahdi. He discusses the Mahdi extensively on all his websites and tries to draw subtle comparisons between himself and this messiah.
He also claims he was educated in philosophy at university, when he really studied interior design, and dropped out.
And all of his claims are debunked, I know.
digitised 2 years ago
Hay DIGITISED and ADeepVoiceyp u both can watch this video of
Dr Zakir Naik Vs Dr William Cambell
on youtube, and i m sure if you are really OPEN for the truth you will find one.
umfpimps 2 years ago
Zakir Naik denies evolution because its called the 'theory of evolution'.
He has about an inch more scientific credability then kent hovind im afraid. Hes a medical doctor not a scientist.
He tried to say that swine was haram because of diseases which only allah knew about. Yet it was banned to jews long before... and due to disease.
Pork is bad for us these days because of modern farming, it would otherwise be a safe but slightly fatty meat if it wasnt for hormone drug feed.
digitised 2 years ago
correction -
i meant to say...and *NOT* due to disease.
It was banned to jews because of a technicality in moses law. Animals which are forbidden cannot have both cloven hooves and chew cud.
Pigs have cloven hooves BUT dont chew cud, which meant pigs were off the menu.
No health reason, not hygiene reason (pigs are very clean compared to other farm animals), not disease...and certainly not artificial growth hormones.
Zakir Naik shamelessly gropes around for his 'miracles'.
digitised 2 years ago
If he knew pigs were unhealthy (being a medical doctor...) he should take 30 mins at least to research why this is.
But he doesnt care or he is dishonest, he knows people are desperate for confirmation of miracles in the quran, exactly the same as christians are for miracles in the bible.
They have found just as much support for their delusions too.
Great flood? 6000 year old earth? Jesus being god?
Yes its all 100% scientifically supported*
* - only by christian fundamentalists
digitised 2 years ago
I must ask... before this goes on any further.
Why do you have such a motivation, and determination in practically the polar alternative of a Christian Evangleist in propagating your godless ideology upon people?
If you accept only material, tangible objects as your evidence, then how can you accept that gaseous matter, gravity, dark matter, telecommunication signals or ANY invisible property, truely exists?
RachZi 2 years ago
I am not promoting atheism, because it is not a belief. I do not accept the existence of any deity, therefore i am an atheist.
I trust you do not accept the existence of unicorns, this is not a belief to you, it is just something you dont accept.
I promote rational skepticism towards supernatural and extrarodinary claims.
These videos contain errors which are overlooked or unknown to laymen audiences, and i have every right to criticise them for their erroneous claims.
digitised 2 years ago
Rational skepticism is fine. Because by being rational. It's what led me BACK to Islam. Islam is RATIONAL there are NO mysteries or dogma. All that's needed is clarifcation and an intimiate understanding, not bouncing from topic to topic. No headway can be made
Now show me because you never answered my question in a convincing manner:
Show me a SINGLE so-called holy scripture which alludes to science as the Quran does, revealed 1400 years ago by an illiterate man in the middle of a desert.
RachZi 2 years ago
I dont know if you understood me, but i claimed that no holy scriptures revealed anything scientific which was not known at the time they were written.
I even asked you to present me with your top 3 examples of miraculous revelation.
The quran was a more modern text given that it existed in an age where information was shared through universities and libraries. The bible and other older texts existed before such times and did not try to make bold claims about how things worked.
digitised 2 years ago
It is said that mohammed was illiterate, we cannot verify this since some people claim that traders (which was mohammeds profession) would have to be able to read and write in order to understand and create essential trade contracts.
Whether he was or wasnt is admittedly irrelevant because illiterate people still have adequate capacity to talk and learn from other people that do read and write.
And mohammed was very well aquainted with educated people who knew of greek and roman knowledge.
digitised 2 years ago
If i was illterate today, but discussed scientific subjects with educated physicists. I could gain a good understanding of how certain things operate.
If i then decided to claim i had received revelation from god and had people write my words down explaining links between time and gravity (pretty much covering basic corners of special relativity) then i would hardly be able to impress anyone when this knowledge, which was known about for nearly 100 years before by other people.
digitised 2 years ago
See but now you beg the question: If Muhammed was influenced by science of the time, then what DID such knowledge at that time offer?
Dr. Keith L. Moore clearly stated that, for example, embyology was studied by Aristotle, however NO system was developed to enable accurate classification of its stages, however the Quran and hadiths DO.
Muhammad was NOT exposed to any such knowledge because such knowledge simply never EXISTED 1400 years ago.
RachZi 2 years ago 6
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Aristotle, Hippocrates, Plato, Galen etc all wrote about embryology.
If you read what is written in their books and compare it to the statements in the quran they are almost word for word.
Including the errors.
All of this information was publised over 500years before mohammed was born, and was taught from the 5th century onward in the Gundeshupar school of medicine in india.
Please check this.
digitised 2 years ago
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Keith Moore still remains NON muslim despite telling muslim audiences on camera that the quran 'must' be the word of god.
How could you not convert to islam if you really believe that?
You have just admitted that god is real, and that his word is true, yet you dont convert to that religion...?
Surely this must be a problem for muslims who claim Keith Moore is reliable, if he wont join your faith despite telling you he knows its true?
digitised 2 years ago
@digitised it all about hidayah-calling from Allah to open the hearth-
not every one can be a moslem. even the uncle of Our Prophet (Abu Thalib) was still kuffar.
negaraapi 2 years ago
there are docktors that have seen unbelievable cases where people should be dead and they say it must be a miracle of god that he survived but yet most of them don't turn to religion so you are saying because keith moore didnt convert to islam God doesnt excist?
Tugieboy 2 years ago
So you claim it is a miracle, when people who are on the brink of death suddenly have a change in their condition and begin recovery?
If this is so, then please tell me what it is called when perfectly healthy people collapse and die without warning?
(e.g sudden heart attack, collapsed lung etc)
Such deaths do occur and doctors cannot explain those either.
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Im saying you should not trust Keith Moore, because he does not practice what he preaches. That is simply all.
digitised 2 years ago
1= the fact that the Quran stated 1400 years ago that God would preserve the body of this pharoa(3000YEARS old) to be a warning to all corrupt leaders
2=that this pharoa isnt a MUMMIE meaning he wasnt balsemd,removed of his organs etc &this pharoa is even better preserved then the mummies they have found before...after doctor maurice bukhaille found out the Quran stated this 1400years ago he became MUSLIM &wrote a book about it " The Bible,The Quran&science ..BUY IT & READ IT...
Tugieboy 2 years ago
@digitised
Out of sincerety, what I suggest digitised, is that an educated individual of your calibre go out and purchase a translated meaning of the Quran.
They're not that expensive. The reason why I suggest such a thing is because we can sit here all day, throwing youtube comments back and forth but to understand Islam by taking extracts of verses may or may not reach someone's heart.
The Quran is an unending chain of narration, consequently, the meaning is understood in its whole.
RachZi 2 years ago 6