thanks:) ahhhh da cigs and a zippo...i remember when i smoked. marlboro reds in a box:) good times. well, ile get to checking stuff out and saving up...
i luv ya nutn...but, i gotta disagree with ya on one thing. i feel if a citizen can legally buy firearms they should be able to buy armor. how can ya ask a neighborhood watch member in a dangerous part of town to go do a citizens patrol without protection? another thing, if you want to be an independent private security dude your prospective employer requires you to have all your kit before you get hired. i retired from the military b4 they offered less pricey armor. how do i get armor now?
@highonimmi That whole thing about retailers selling armor to only LE/military is complete bullshit. The only thing it does for those retailers is a loss of revenue. I also refuse to buy from companies like Blackhawk because of that. The law says that any citizen may own armor as long as they are not a convicted felon, so go buy some! I also recommend steel plates due to their increased resilience over ceramic, which could crack if dropped. They are also cheaper, but slightly heavier.
@highonimmi You can get SAPI plates on ebay broski. There are a few other reputable dealers I know of that offer plates at fair prices. Message me if you want to learn more. I agree with you. I also think if the gov't can have "x" civilians should be allowed to own it too. I think we should all be allowed to have whatever type of weaponry we can afford. If anything, fully automatic weapons should be legal for civilians IMO.
@highonimmi Oh yeah... bulletproofme is a great place to get armor also. That's where I purchased the plates for my carrier at home. I have a concealable IIIA vest, an IOTV, and an HSG custom made plate carrier. :) That one only weighs 43lbs with plates(all around), soft armor, trauma panels, a 1911, 8 M4/16 magazines, CLS kit, Ka-Bar, 2 1911 mags. HSG padded belt adds real estate for 4 more pistol magazines, 2 M4, flashlight, a rear mounted dump pouch, grenade pouch for smokes and a zippo. lol
@Smokin07ram Dragon Skin has a lot of problems in it because of its design. testing has shown defects from the manufacturing that completely fail the plates. we still have plenty of time to fix the problems. it took hundreds of years to get plate armor functioning properly for knights and men at arms to deflect arrows. only time will tell.
@Lily24711 It saved my buddy's Son from 2 center mass AK hits at less than 100 yards.....The guy beside him was not so lucky (at least he he did live). The plates are too heavy so our boys don't ware them. Do you have a link to the tests?
To me, plates are great protection, but more a assumption. Assumption that in CQB your target has only basic skills and is going to aim center body mass. As for police i think they should stick with soft armor and keep more mobility, even if going up against a rifleman i think mobility would be there best chance. Troops going to the sand box i think should stick with plates, not a whole lot of CQB going on any more. Just my general opinion though...
If you believe the Constitution is truly the law of the land, there are no restrictions on law-abiding citizens owning ANYTHING that the LEO or to some extent the military use. How are we supposed to use our 2nd amd. right to fight tyranny when that tyranny MAY present itself with LVL 5 armor, REAL AP rounds like the 5.56 M995, or a LAW? That's why the NFA of 1934 is unconstitutional, and the GCA of '68.
definitely think law abiding americans should be able to get level 4 plates. i opted for soft amor could of gotten level 4 good for 308, it wieghed 17 lbs forfront and back, so to heavy and the legality is a little grey.I think it's legal to own but not sure and thats a knock on my door i prolly don't want love the vids and thaks for all the work, God bless
If you practice marksmanship then you shouldn't need plates. If you're going to rob a bank like the men who did the North Hollywood Shootout, then go for it. The security of plates in civilian hands isn't the threat, but you never know when someone has the will to steal your property and then allow the armor to fall into the wrong hands.
@combatjm89 That is correct, but the Second Amendment is what it is. I just pray and practice and support local authorities to do their job of taking care of situations when a wrong-doing has such firepower and ballistic grade body armor. I respect your opinion and perhaps you should write your state representative if you feel that civilians should be allowed to own federally regulated armor (without the wait, hassle, etc.).
@JisforJenkem Then more power to you. I would rather have my equipment registered.
I hope your plates came with warranty and a refund policy in the event they crack upon falling. Just make sure you get them screened for micro-fractures. :)
I find it so strange that nutnfancy is not advocating sheepdog's wearing body armor. It does say in the description that It's not necessarily his views, But why should a Civilian Who can pass a background check not own Rifle plates or anything beyond soft body armor? It doesn't sound like the nutnfancy I watch almost everyday.
Joe does not have the ability to choose whether or not he wears his plates. The only optional downgrade Joe gets right now is if he's in a high enough elevation in Afghanistan, in that case he gets to wear plate carriers over the whole IOTV. If you hear of troopers going on ops and being given the opportunity to decide plates or not, his leadership has failed him.
@JisforJenkem same reason gun stores don't sell guns to "just anyone". A gunman is a big problem. A gunman you can't shoot down is a huge problem, a great movie illustrating this is "Rampage". There are many real world examples of that as well.
Anyone can buy any armor they want fortunately, with the exception of felons. We deserve the right to defend ourselves and our family. If you make body armor illegal, then bad guys and cops will have it and civs will be up shit creek. The same failed logic insures places like DC with gun bans also have the worst gun crime. Also, if profanity bothers you you might consider hiding in a church and staying WAY off the internet.
@JisforJenkem Thats what i mean, it is against the law for felons as it should be, same with firearms, can they still get them, of course, should it be any easier, no.
I find profanity unnecessary and it doesnt help accomplish anything, it just makes you look like a douche.
@Kylef7735 Actually, profanity can be an excellent rhetorical device that displays both displays passion AND catches the eye. It is a written punch in the groin. In fact, my use of it is most likely the reason my post is a top comment and you even saw it in the first place. It accomplished much.
@JisforJenkem I find that it displays much lower intelligence due to the fact of being forced to resort to profane words. If you cant get your point across by using just normal talk and logic, you may be a moron.
@Kylef7735 Really? Can you prove your assertion about lower intelligence being correlated with profanity? No? Didn't think so. Sounds nice though. I used the MOST effective word I could for my purpose and my audience. The proof is in the posting.
@JisforJenkem Why dont you just pay some attention to all the smart people and see how many of them are cussing up a storm. Not many, its unprofessional, tacky and makes you seem unintelligent, wether you are or not.
@Kylef7735 I understand the concept of speaking to and understanding my audience. I specialized in rhetoric in college. Cussing at a business function or scientific symposium would be tacky and unprofessional except in the rarest of circumstances. Cussing on youtube, land of the "This video was hard to masturbate to" is speaking to your audience AND It is SUPPOSED to piss you off a bit. The regular messages I get about body armor because of this post are proof that it works as intended.
@Kylef7735 You seem to be mistaking intentional use of profanity with mindless strings of cursing. Your pre-conceived notions about intelligence and cursing will cause you to underestimate someone you shouldn't one day.
@JisforJenkem I agree with you. Just because I curse doesn't usurp the fact that I am an intelligent person. I curse because I'm constantly pissed off at the real stupid people and feel I have to come down to their level to get my point across. lol Take care broski!
@Kylef7735 Is it alright if you try not cussing someone out that started cursing you and using profane language to undermine your opinion and then you cuss at them in defense of your opinion?
I don't understand why they shouldn't be able to sell to regular civilians? If regular law-abiding citizens can own guns we should also be able to own body armor. Strong double standard.
@MattsMisc Well, having a vest that stops a pistol round is one thing. Having a vest that stops a rifle round is something entirely different, as much as I'd love one for an apocalypse kit. You can still get the plates though, they actually sell them at the army navy store down the street from me, so I think it's more the companies policy than anything else.
@TheStef263 If the government and its agents can own and possess body armor why can't we? In my state we can own body armor. I have it just in case some crazy shit happens like...oh I don't know? Another revolution or the police attempt to enforce martial law upon my countrymen. If that happens, the real reason the 2nd amendment was put in the constitution will become apparent. I hope that doesn't happen though...
@dedicatedkiller11b I am unaware of the US constitution, as I do not live in USA, so such stuff is none of my concern. However, in the case of a 'revolution' you realise you would be going up against a defence force of world conquest proportions.
And Offensive weapons are always several steps in front of defensive options, a small piece of ballistic plate will only give the illusion of safety.
@TheStef263 You do realize that our defense force is in the middle of a conquest and they are not home to protect the government? Statistically speaking, 3% of the US is all that is needed. I am in the US Military. We will not attack our own people if they exercise their 2nd amendment right. We have the RIGHT to rise up against a tyrannical gov't with weapons to take their power away. That's why guns are a right in the USA, not for hunting but destruction of government.
@dedicatedkiller11b The citizens do not have the support, technology, weaponry or the organisation required to topple a government as big as the US. As for your point of being in the military etc, that is moot, I'm sure most nazi foot soldiers would not have gassed millions of jews, russians etc. It still happened.
afaik, wasn't america slowly disarming it's citizens?
Getting back to the question at hand, body armour still should not (doesn't need to) be legal for citizens.
Even modern armor has all the limitations gone over in this video, and I wholeheartedly agree. Once you've run a few miles with 25-33 pound body armor, you might want the mobility over the protection. Sure, it's situational, but for a combat load when you add in everything else plus that armor, you're easily looking at 80+ pounds.
That's why LEOs usually wear class IIA and down - they don't expect rifle fire on a general basis.
Someone wud prob think u were nuts if u went around wearing body armor, bullet resistant plates. But is it any more nuts than concealed carry? I mean if ever u needed to pull a gun & shoot, you wud also need a bullet proof vest, assuming you wudn't be shooting unless someone was about to shoot you.
@Thunkful2 I have concealable body armor that I wear on occasion. It's better than not wearing it ever. Just like carrying sometimes is better than never carrying but not as good as always carrying.
My body armor in Afghanistan weighed 40+ pounds with front/side plates, ammo, and first aid kit. And I wouldn't have walked anywhere without it. Those rifle plates were all that stood between my torso and 7.62 x 39mm and 7.62 x 54mm rounds. You get used to the weight after awhile.
Mobility can be lossed due to injuries, yours or somebody else's injury. Also ambushes limit your mobility. A good ballistic helmet and good bodyarmor will reduce your size as a target, if you can use effective tactical cover, your enemy is using an inaccurate rifle & there's some substantial distance between the two you, your chances of survival greatly increase.
Your opinion on who should have armor is irrelevant and wrong. Civilians can get awesome body armor from many places that are legit and will sell to anyone. In fact. International Armor Corp. has a titanium plate that has better stopping, trapping, weight and price than you can buy even in bulk for an equal plate in one category let alone all. Their 7.62x39 plate takes 2 AP .308s after getting hit by AK and AR AP ammo several times. Check out the YouTube of it. Get some.
I am a huge fan of nutnfancy, very much appreciate the time and effort involved in producing these vids.
Respectfully suggest you might want to reconsider your views on civs (otherwise known as "the people") having access to good quality body armor. If they shouldn't have armor, then it would logically follow that they should not have access to firearms either.
After I saw the grenade test of DragonSkin on Futureweapons, I have a hard time understanding why we still have plate carriers. Do you have any firsthand knowledge of DragonSkin's performance? Cuz the Army seems to be the only group that doesn't think it is vastly superior to traditional plate armor.
@nnancewacotrib It's mainly due to the fact that the adhesive in Dragon Skin melts at high temps (120+ like in Iraq and Afghanistan) and also chips in cold weather.
Well, without any armor, you might get lucky and take a "thru-n-thru" hit ...
... But, lighter armor will cause the projectile to expand before it enters your body ... My point is that, with ball or AP hits, the wound channel might not be as devastating, if you go totally without any armor, as opposed to having a mushroomed and deflected round spinning thru your gutz.
@phrankus2009 - It's not about bullet expansion, it's about round velocity and cavitation. Any armor that hopes to slow the round down will decrease the amount of injury.
How do I know this? I'm a retired Navy Corpsman and served as a civillian Paramedic for 12 years.
in the marines i carried about 150 pounds everyday. now that may be alot to civilians that arent use to rigorous fitness levels but as a military solider its not hard. just keep in shape and there will be no problem. but keep this in mind. everytime we came into contact with armor wearers we always went for the head. so if your gonna purchase chest armor then suit up for the whole shebang.
I don't think he's saying tat NO CIVILIANS should have access to body armor, I use a well-established company to get body armor, I wouldnt wear it everyday, but you better believe that it'll be on in WROL or even when I FEEL I'M IN A HIGH THREAT AREA. Having said that, you have to CALL most companies that sell to civilians, send them current I.D., dont know if they do a background check, most criminals will not wanna go through the hassle. Im for LEGAL civilian access, as its legal where I am.
@runninonempiy The worst kinds of "Republicans" are those who think that growing up in an upper middle class family make them one. Definitely a Democrat, and a VERY liberal one to boot I bet.
to conjure up dubious images of a dark figure in the treeline picking old lady's off a park bench at a mile away. Oh I almost forgot "ALL HAIL NUTNFANCY"
@thedmundfitz If you think just because someone has a scope on the rifle means they can kill at 1000 yards you obviously poorly educated in firearms. Shots at that range aren't point and shoot like video games. And these EVIL "sniper rifles" you talk about are the primary firearm for hunting rifles. Technically there is no such thing as a sniper rifle its a SCOPED rifle. I get really ticked when people scream sniper rifle. A .22 CAN BE A SNIPER RIFLE its just a brady campaign fear word
I can see what you're saying, but I think his opinion is that way because unlike firearms, bulletproof armor would be used for protection during criminal activities (robbing banks, muggings, murder, etc) far far more often then simple self-defense and statistics show this. Even though that's true I agree it's odd for him to have a completely opposite view about body armor then weapons.
I love it.....These plates were designed and are sold by a High school student...And the debates fly on who should own them..Please dont email me any more..You have not lived my life,been thrugh what I have and YOU have no place to tell me what to think...Thank you.
This is a purely defensive means of self defense... pepper spray and tasers would be more logical things to outlaw, those could at least be potentially used offensively.
If our police, soldiers, and the drug cartels can have it- I should be able to have it, too. To suggest otherwise is so anti-American it's not even funny.
@lamarbrog Indeed I do. Say person x wants to rob a bank. He drives the tank through the front door, jumps out, grabs the money, and leaves. His tank can stop anything the police can throw at him. Steel plates on a bulldozer aren't going to stop rifle bullets.
@thedmundfitz You can legally purchase a tank..If you dont like it Leave..I think you would be better of in Mexico..You say you are a republican?I think you better go back to the books.I have read your posts and you clearly make a point of jeopardizing my rights..time and time again..You sound like a democrat to me..
@runninonempiy What a ridiculous thing to say. I will not leave America because I don't like one particular thing. I will attempt to change it. And what a common thing to tell a person on YouTube to "read up" on something, without any knowledge of a person's education. Again I will say that if you think enforcing laws is "jeopardizing your rights", okay. Why don't you move somewhere else? That is something that cannot be changed. I will say armor and tanks are rarely used by criminals here, so
@thedmundfitz Sorry PAL..I did move..From a liberal pos state called Illinois to a gun friendly state called Florida where I am free again.You may have heard of it Or Jeb Busch for that matter..You are a liberal whether you know it or not.And I dont care how book smart a lot of idiots are..I am done with you..RON PAUL 2012
@thedmundfitz - The new gun law in Florida, which allows Florida residents to use deadly force outside their homes, has boosted sales of body armor to civilians.According to Mr. Luiten, spokesman of EnGarde USA, aggressors might have become more trigger-happy. Not only will they use lethal force more often but also quicker since they know their victim can legally open fire for defense purposes. "We have more then doubled our civilian body armor sales NOW IM DONE WITH YOU!!
@runninonempiy The worst kinds of "Republicans" are those who think that growing up in an upper middle class family make them one. Definitely a Democrat, and a VERY liberal one to boot I bet.
Funny when I hear "democrats" saying the same thing, they are typically very rich. Michael Moore, Nancy Pilosi and the rest all claim to be "for the people" yet are in the upper 10% of income of all Americans. Go figure.
I have to come back and apologize after I vented for 5 min's I was in a bad situation and I get upset when I have to argue about this subject and my experience..Sorry Nutnfancy and thank you for all of your GREAT reviews..I have taken myself out of a bad situation IE a bad place to live and turned it all around moving to a great place like Florida..Living Here I feel like I have rights again..THANK YOU JEB BUSH!!!!!
YUP ITS BULL SHIT..And I agree with almost every thing Nutnfancy says Even a g17 owner because of him...But not should they????Well....I had to earn a living repossessing cars in Chicago...I left that BULL SHIT state and that was one of the reasons..I almost got arrested over body armor..Un FUCKIN REAL..Is this how MY military is going to act if SHTF???HMMMMM I THINK SO...STACK UP SHEEP DOGS!!!THIS PISSES ME OFF!
I live in the US, travel in the US. I thought that the whole idea of being American is to have the most freedom that there is in the world. To have these people say you don't need this or that is like saying you don't need a Vet, cause there's VWs that will get you there. It's nothing more than whining.
Scottsdale Gun Club will sell you the Palm ASP IV armor for $400... my friend got out the door today for $393, but he's a fed. However, SGC is not a FLY BY NIGHT place as mentioned in the video... they have been around a few years and are a pretty successful business and they WILL sell to civilians, no questions asked. I agree with that since it's a defensive item.
Not trying to awaken a debate or anything but civi's are aloud to purchase body armor (void online sales to Connecticut residents and felons). Of course idk every local law so do your research, plus laws are ever changing. It is to the discretion of the seller who they choose to sell to beyond that. I patron civilian sellers of plates and armor because I don't like the idea of sending a 'copying' of my mil ID to random people idk.
Been on two deployments and we never considered, nor were we allowed to, removing our plates to increase mobility. That was Iraq however, Afghanistan may be different, and as you said it was mostly movement within a km or two from the vehicles.
I didn't hear you provide a whole lot of examples where different types of armor might be useful. I thought I'd ask you to do another video covering these considerations.
I think it's important to emphasize that the removing of that backplate by the soldier in "BlackHawk Down" resulting in him being unprotected when he was shot in the back was a result of the situation where the unit was NOT mobile due to the downed aircraft. Mobility was not advantageous in that situation.
IF your plate DOES stops a 7.62X54R I don't think you will be hopping back up into battle...The most likely scenario is that it stops the bullet but you no longer have any intact bones in your torso:D
I personally enjoy the longer videos, sooo tired of those little "puffs" of video people are putting out, some worse than farts and just about as long.
at least here we've got someone who seems to care about content, compared to probably 98 percent of the videos on youtube this is gold.
why would a defensive tool be for only law enforcement/military?
this should be hand in hand with the 2nd amendment, how can you get a gun which can kill and can be offensive, where in a defense shield cant be for the mass public. because of a threat?
@azron420 This is a great illustration of how all of us are effected by the subtle and constant barrage of anti-gun/victim disarmament propaganda machine. This is one of my favorite most informative channels but even nutn shows the far reach of the subtle mind control tactics that permeate society. Stay vigilant and point it out. Follow ideas and principles not people and groups. Too see the cage is to escape the cage.
I can't believe that you don't think I should be able to buy defensive armor. I lost a little bit of respect for u nutn :(. don't worry still a lot left but dang.
"Liquid Armor" is better and can buy all the chemicals you need off of Ebay. Soft Kevlar into Semi hard armor for dirt cheap compaired too the price of plates.
Soaking your kevlar in shear thickening fluids is a revolution in armor. The Army is Testing it as i type this.
i love your videos..but i disagree with one thing....everyone has the right to life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness...therefore even if im the biggest scum in the world i have the right to wear body armour...if someone is that bad in the long run body armour wont help....thats all...keep upthe good work...
hello, you got a point there. i want to ask you if you have any idea what happens if i havee two vests level II an use all the soft inserts on only one vest. so i would have a vest with two level II panels in each pocket. it will increase the protection level? waiting for your answer.
I have known many people in the the military world that had their lives saved by their body armor. If you say it is too much weight and you rather cut back on your amour, just face the fact you are weak and need to train more in your kit to get use to the level of protection you need for the job that you are doing. There is a trade off but the costly, tragic lessons have already been learned on the field of battle concerning to armor or not to armor.
Getting BA is not difficult or illegal for the law abiding citizen. "a real place" like ebay?
Nutnfancy you are 2/3 retarded. And I know you are here in Utah. One of these days I will bump into you at a TAC store or gun range. Whenn I do I will probably verbally abuse you.
@smokybob63 Yes, It's not against the law in most states, and if you want body armor, get it. People don't have to be in the military, or law enforcement. You can be the owner of a liquor store, or just a person who wants to be prepared, as in L.A. for riots, which occur at the drop of a dime. You have the right to defend yourself.
Anyone can buy plate body armor. It isnt illegal to buy or own. If a company wants to be an idiot and not sell to civilians knock yourself out but you will find plenty other companies who will. I have to say I have little respect for anyone that thinks only LE and GIs are the only people who are "ethically allowed" to wear body armor.
True these things can get heavy, but don't be the couch potato and not get conditioned with your vest...just throwing that out there. If the vest is worn right to the body you can still have a great amount of movement.
just an FYI to you guys who are hate'n on nutn, you can buy youre own softarmor vests without having any LE or military id. Just gotta know where to look.
Nutn, i normally enjoy your vids, but as been said already, civies hav just as much right to protect themselves as Miltary and LE. And as far as the weight....yeah it sux carryin it around all day, i know, but its a comfort. And as soon as u get shot at, ADRENALINE kicks in and you no longer feel any of the weight. Ur ass gets moving quick fast and in a hurry. Believe me.
"They dont sell to any body,nor should they"....Thats where i stopped watching,fuck you and your stupid ass videos you stupid fuck.How is the life of LEO more important than a civilians?WTF is that shit?We dont have a right to protect ourselves?What a fucking moron.
....nutn you can easily get body armor here in the US, currently there is only one state that restricts it, and that's Connecticut. all other states it's about the same as acquiring a CCW, you can't be a felon ect....and you can't use it in the process of comiting a felony.....other than that you can own and use body armor.
"They don't sell to anyone, nor should they?" Who doesn't rate the right to life against gunfire? If a purely defensive form of self defense isn't acceptable to you, how do you really feel about selling firearms to people without credentials? I think your inconsistent there and should rethink that view. Thanks for the info.
@Malbrojia I can see your point but think about someone who's unstable, if they all of a sudden decide to go on a massacre and they go and buy body armour so they can cause as much carnage as possible. Yes it would benefit someone in defence but if your defending your home are you really going to put this heavy crap on? Ive worn similar stuff in prisons during riots and let me tell you that stuffs light compared to what nutns saying but you still wont walk around with it on all day.
@MrMapex2010 Good job you just joined the nanny state left as everything you said could be used to disarm the public if you switch armor out for guns. Imagine if an unstable person gets ahold of a gun.... we shouldnt be able to arm ourselves. Could you imagine the carnage. Sure it would help you defend yourself, but are u really gon lug around a heavy old black rifle? blah blah blah.
@Malbrojia I actually strongly support it and believe the restictions should be lifted. Consider this scenario, a nutter walks into a mall to shoot as many people as possible. A law abidding citizen carrying a gun fires two shots into the nutters chest killing him and possibly saving numerous lives. Now if that man was wearing a vest and the law abidding citizen fired two shots into his chest, the nutter would probably trun round and shoot the citizen before taking many other lives with him.
Second scenario, a man breaks into your house wearing a, you fire into his chest and he shoots back killing you instantly. Once you're dead you're no help to your family and they are raped and killed. I am not a supporter of the protectionists and the culture of banning everything that posses a threat, but I could see this making the task of law enforcement and protecting our families harder. Dont want to start an argument just exe
thanks:) ahhhh da cigs and a zippo...i remember when i smoked. marlboro reds in a box:) good times. well, ile get to checking stuff out and saving up...
highonimmi 3 days ago
@BlackTorque Thank you! It was an honor to serve for the people of the USA.
dedicatedkiller11b 3 days ago
i luv ya nutn...but, i gotta disagree with ya on one thing. i feel if a citizen can legally buy firearms they should be able to buy armor. how can ya ask a neighborhood watch member in a dangerous part of town to go do a citizens patrol without protection? another thing, if you want to be an independent private security dude your prospective employer requires you to have all your kit before you get hired. i retired from the military b4 they offered less pricey armor. how do i get armor now?
highonimmi 1 week ago
@highonimmi That whole thing about retailers selling armor to only LE/military is complete bullshit. The only thing it does for those retailers is a loss of revenue. I also refuse to buy from companies like Blackhawk because of that. The law says that any citizen may own armor as long as they are not a convicted felon, so go buy some! I also recommend steel plates due to their increased resilience over ceramic, which could crack if dropped. They are also cheaper, but slightly heavier.
BackTorque 3 days ago
@highonimmi You can get SAPI plates on ebay broski. There are a few other reputable dealers I know of that offer plates at fair prices. Message me if you want to learn more. I agree with you. I also think if the gov't can have "x" civilians should be allowed to own it too. I think we should all be allowed to have whatever type of weaponry we can afford. If anything, fully automatic weapons should be legal for civilians IMO.
dedicatedkiller11b 3 days ago
@highonimmi Oh yeah... bulletproofme is a great place to get armor also. That's where I purchased the plates for my carrier at home. I have a concealable IIIA vest, an IOTV, and an HSG custom made plate carrier. :) That one only weighs 43lbs with plates(all around), soft armor, trauma panels, a 1911, 8 M4/16 magazines, CLS kit, Ka-Bar, 2 1911 mags. HSG padded belt adds real estate for 4 more pistol magazines, 2 M4, flashlight, a rear mounted dump pouch, grenade pouch for smokes and a zippo. lol
dedicatedkiller11b 3 days ago
wish i saw this back in 2008, woulda saved me alota researching and reading stuff through google back in da day
ninjatears 2 weeks ago
Every citizen should be able to buy any kind of body armor.
Bad guys own them just like they own illegal guns, even in countries where civilians cant own guns criminals have full auto guns and armor.
The restriction to civilians doesnt stop bad guys form getting armor.
JoeDurobot 2 weeks ago
Any thoughts on Dragon skin?
Seem like a fairly lightweight (expensive ) rifle plate option?
Thanks
Smokin07ram 3 weeks ago
@Smokin07ram Dragon Skin has a lot of problems in it because of its design. testing has shown defects from the manufacturing that completely fail the plates. we still have plenty of time to fix the problems. it took hundreds of years to get plate armor functioning properly for knights and men at arms to deflect arrows. only time will tell.
Lily24711 2 weeks ago
@Lily24711 It saved my buddy's Son from 2 center mass AK hits at less than 100 yards.....The guy beside him was not so lucky (at least he he did live). The plates are too heavy so our boys don't ware them. Do you have a link to the tests?
Thanks so much
Smokin07ram 2 weeks ago
lol at 7:00
SoCalAirs0ft 4 weeks ago
338 lapua AP! Good luck baby!
Red9Man763 1 month ago
anyone else see the fat kid in the lime hoodie on the right video bar?
poormanprepper 1 month ago
To me, plates are great protection, but more a assumption. Assumption that in CQB your target has only basic skills and is going to aim center body mass. As for police i think they should stick with soft armor and keep more mobility, even if going up against a rifleman i think mobility would be there best chance. Troops going to the sand box i think should stick with plates, not a whole lot of CQB going on any more. Just my general opinion though...
TheWaPREPPER 1 month ago
We have the right to own protection. You can get armor. Google bulletproofme or even midwayusa sells it to civis now. Freedom!
joezbackwith2gatz 1 month ago
If you believe the Constitution is truly the law of the land, there are no restrictions on law-abiding citizens owning ANYTHING that the LEO or to some extent the military use. How are we supposed to use our 2nd amd. right to fight tyranny when that tyranny MAY present itself with LVL 5 armor, REAL AP rounds like the 5.56 M995, or a LAW? That's why the NFA of 1934 is unconstitutional, and the GCA of '68.
combatjm89 1 month ago
what the hell man, I am a law abiding citizen and have just as much right to protect myself with rifle armor as any LE or Military.
TheIronBandana 1 month ago
definitely think law abiding americans should be able to get level 4 plates. i opted for soft amor could of gotten level 4 good for 308, it wieghed 17 lbs forfront and back, so to heavy and the legality is a little grey.I think it's legal to own but not sure and thats a knock on my door i prolly don't want love the vids and thaks for all the work, God bless
RedDawnAK74 1 month ago
You should do a review of Pinaccle Armor Dragon Skin. Would love to hear your thoughts. :)
DaSticksanStonesClub 1 month ago
If you practice marksmanship then you shouldn't need plates. If you're going to rob a bank like the men who did the North Hollywood Shootout, then go for it. The security of plates in civilian hands isn't the threat, but you never know when someone has the will to steal your property and then allow the armor to fall into the wrong hands.
dluism 1 month ago
@dluism By that reasoning civilians shouldn't own firearms either - they may fall into the same hands as well...
combatjm89 1 month ago
@combatjm89 That is correct, but the Second Amendment is what it is. I just pray and practice and support local authorities to do their job of taking care of situations when a wrong-doing has such firepower and ballistic grade body armor. I respect your opinion and perhaps you should write your state representative if you feel that civilians should be allowed to own federally regulated armor (without the wait, hassle, etc.).
dluism 1 month ago
@dluism They, uh, can own pretty much any armor they want...... No wait or hassle.
Just bought some rifle plates off ebay as a matter of fact...
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem Then more power to you. I would rather have my equipment registered.
I hope your plates came with warranty and a refund policy in the event they crack upon falling. Just make sure you get them screened for micro-fractures. :)
dluism 1 month ago
I find it so strange that nutnfancy is not advocating sheepdog's wearing body armor. It does say in the description that It's not necessarily his views, But why should a Civilian Who can pass a background check not own Rifle plates or anything beyond soft body armor? It doesn't sound like the nutnfancy I watch almost everyday.
aletter1718 1 month ago
ha ha rosie odonnel shes a bitch
notanotherstep 1 month ago
can't wait 'til MJOLNIR mark V is released
hellrazor117 1 month ago
IF YOUR CARRYING A GUN YOU BETTER EXPECT TO GET SHOT YOURSELF
WEAPONS AND ARMOR GO HAND IN HAND
to heavy? suck it up
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@HunterKiller308 I agree.
combatjm89 1 month ago
@combatjm89 yeah...i think anyone with half a brain does too, just not the maker of this vid lol
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
Joe does not have the ability to choose whether or not he wears his plates. The only optional downgrade Joe gets right now is if he's in a high enough elevation in Afghanistan, in that case he gets to wear plate carriers over the whole IOTV. If you hear of troopers going on ops and being given the opportunity to decide plates or not, his leadership has failed him.
therenpen 1 month ago
"Nor should they"? Why the fuck is that?
JisforJenkem 2 months ago 26
@JisforJenkem He was meaning so that the psycos of society cant, like in the hollywood shoot out.
Kylef7735 2 months ago
@JisforJenkem same reason gun stores don't sell guns to "just anyone". A gunman is a big problem. A gunman you can't shoot down is a huge problem, a great movie illustrating this is "Rampage". There are many real world examples of that as well.
Rob23Roy 2 months ago
@Rob23Roy
Actually, they pretty much DO sell guns to "just anyone". It is kind of a right (you know, 2nd amendment) in this country.
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem FFLs do not sell guns to felons, non-citizens, people with substance abuse history, mental disorders, and the list goes on..
Rob23Roy 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem one of the big reasons why i dont subscribe to Nutsackfancy =)
HunterKiller308 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem Because then the bad guys could buy it too.
Quit the profanity too dude.
Kylef7735 1 month ago in playlist More videos from nutnfancy
@Kylef7735
Anyone can buy any armor they want fortunately, with the exception of felons. We deserve the right to defend ourselves and our family. If you make body armor illegal, then bad guys and cops will have it and civs will be up shit creek. The same failed logic insures places like DC with gun bans also have the worst gun crime. Also, if profanity bothers you you might consider hiding in a church and staying WAY off the internet.
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem Thats what i mean, it is against the law for felons as it should be, same with firearms, can they still get them, of course, should it be any easier, no.
I find profanity unnecessary and it doesnt help accomplish anything, it just makes you look like a douche.
Kylef7735 1 month ago
@Kylef7735 Actually, profanity can be an excellent rhetorical device that displays both displays passion AND catches the eye. It is a written punch in the groin. In fact, my use of it is most likely the reason my post is a top comment and you even saw it in the first place. It accomplished much.
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem I find that it displays much lower intelligence due to the fact of being forced to resort to profane words. If you cant get your point across by using just normal talk and logic, you may be a moron.
Kylef7735 1 month ago
@Kylef7735 Really? Can you prove your assertion about lower intelligence being correlated with profanity? No? Didn't think so. Sounds nice though. I used the MOST effective word I could for my purpose and my audience. The proof is in the posting.
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem Why dont you just pay some attention to all the smart people and see how many of them are cussing up a storm. Not many, its unprofessional, tacky and makes you seem unintelligent, wether you are or not.
Kylef7735 1 month ago
@Kylef7735 I understand the concept of speaking to and understanding my audience. I specialized in rhetoric in college. Cussing at a business function or scientific symposium would be tacky and unprofessional except in the rarest of circumstances. Cussing on youtube, land of the "This video was hard to masturbate to" is speaking to your audience AND It is SUPPOSED to piss you off a bit. The regular messages I get about body armor because of this post are proof that it works as intended.
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem It applies on youtube too, just cause everyone else does it on here does it doesnt mean you should too.
Kylef7735 1 month ago
@Kylef7735 You keep being proper and I will keep being effective.
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem You can keep looking like a moron using unnecessary words all you want. ;)
Kylef7735 1 month ago
@Kylef7735 You seem to be mistaking intentional use of profanity with mindless strings of cursing. Your pre-conceived notions about intelligence and cursing will cause you to underestimate someone you shouldn't one day.
JisforJenkem 1 month ago
@JisforJenkem I agree with you. Just because I curse doesn't usurp the fact that I am an intelligent person. I curse because I'm constantly pissed off at the real stupid people and feel I have to come down to their level to get my point across. lol Take care broski!
dedicatedkiller11b 1 week ago
@Kylef7735 Is it alright if you try not cussing someone out that started cursing you and using profane language to undermine your opinion and then you cuss at them in defense of your opinion?
dedicatedkiller11b 1 week ago
@JisforJenkem I would like to know to...
Forreststube 3 weeks ago
I don't understand why they shouldn't be able to sell to regular civilians? If regular law-abiding citizens can own guns we should also be able to own body armor. Strong double standard.
MattsMisc 2 months ago 31
@MattsMisc Well, having a vest that stops a pistol round is one thing. Having a vest that stops a rifle round is something entirely different, as much as I'd love one for an apocalypse kit. You can still get the plates though, they actually sell them at the army navy store down the street from me, so I think it's more the companies policy than anything else.
MrJohnw93 2 months ago
@MattsMisc eBay dude. ;)
GhostRyder2008 2 months ago
@MattsMisc You can get armor. Google bulletproofme or even midwayusa sells it to civis now.
joezbackwith2gatz 1 month ago 2
@MattsMisc Why do regular law abiding citizens(for the most part) require body armour though, Rabbits over here don't shoot back, afaik.
TheStef263 3 weeks ago
@TheStef263 If the government and its agents can own and possess body armor why can't we? In my state we can own body armor. I have it just in case some crazy shit happens like...oh I don't know? Another revolution or the police attempt to enforce martial law upon my countrymen. If that happens, the real reason the 2nd amendment was put in the constitution will become apparent. I hope that doesn't happen though...
dedicatedkiller11b 1 week ago
@dedicatedkiller11b I am unaware of the US constitution, as I do not live in USA, so such stuff is none of my concern. However, in the case of a 'revolution' you realise you would be going up against a defence force of world conquest proportions.
And Offensive weapons are always several steps in front of defensive options, a small piece of ballistic plate will only give the illusion of safety.
If they want you, they'll get you.
TheStef263 1 week ago
@TheStef263 You do realize that our defense force is in the middle of a conquest and they are not home to protect the government? Statistically speaking, 3% of the US is all that is needed. I am in the US Military. We will not attack our own people if they exercise their 2nd amendment right. We have the RIGHT to rise up against a tyrannical gov't with weapons to take their power away. That's why guns are a right in the USA, not for hunting but destruction of government.
dedicatedkiller11b 1 week ago
@dedicatedkiller11b The citizens do not have the support, technology, weaponry or the organisation required to topple a government as big as the US. As for your point of being in the military etc, that is moot, I'm sure most nazi foot soldiers would not have gassed millions of jews, russians etc. It still happened.
afaik, wasn't america slowly disarming it's citizens?
Getting back to the question at hand, body armour still should not (doesn't need to) be legal for citizens.
TheStef263 1 week ago
@dedicatedkiller11b God bless you, and thank you for serving.
BackTorque 3 days ago
@MattsMisc I'm a regular civilian now and I can own body armor in my state... Certain rules apply, but as long as you're not a felon you're good.
dedicatedkiller11b 1 week ago
@angelodzn07 = Run Tell. Bitch
WaterfrontBoss 2 months ago
Even modern armor has all the limitations gone over in this video, and I wholeheartedly agree. Once you've run a few miles with 25-33 pound body armor, you might want the mobility over the protection. Sure, it's situational, but for a combat load when you add in everything else plus that armor, you're easily looking at 80+ pounds.
That's why LEOs usually wear class IIA and down - they don't expect rifle fire on a general basis.
Orthrus 2 months ago
Yes, civilians can buy boby armor. Amazon has the best selection I know of as well.
FR33Kandy 3 months ago
@nutnfancy
hey nutn (or veri) just to give you a heads up
A user by the name of "TacGear8PCSpecialist" have been posting some conspiracy theories and hate messages on the comment section of this video
angelodzn07 3 months ago
damm this is an old one oldschool nutnright here armor has cum a way since this one by the way but still pretty much this is it in a nut shell
wepntech 3 months ago
Sorry about below, Im pretty sure civilians can own body armour.
trustygun25 3 months ago
I might try tomorrow wrong but im pretty sure civilians can own body armour
trustygun25 3 months ago
Are the Israeli's who sell this stuff fly-by-night unreputable???
Thunkful2 3 months ago
Someone wud prob think u were nuts if u went around wearing body armor, bullet resistant plates. But is it any more nuts than concealed carry? I mean if ever u needed to pull a gun & shoot, you wud also need a bullet proof vest, assuming you wudn't be shooting unless someone was about to shoot you.
Thunkful2 3 months ago
@Thunkful2 I have concealable body armor that I wear on occasion. It's better than not wearing it ever. Just like carrying sometimes is better than never carrying but not as good as always carrying.
Nothing wrong with it.
wtfdudenotcool101 3 months ago
Sigh...
studiobtm 4 months ago
So those LVL IV plates need a LVL III backing? Or can they be used stand alone?
fuckcomments 4 months ago
My body armor in Afghanistan weighed 40+ pounds with front/side plates, ammo, and first aid kit. And I wouldn't have walked anywhere without it. Those rifle plates were all that stood between my torso and 7.62 x 39mm and 7.62 x 54mm rounds. You get used to the weight after awhile.
TheMeatpod 4 months ago
Mobility can be lossed due to injuries, yours or somebody else's injury. Also ambushes limit your mobility. A good ballistic helmet and good bodyarmor will reduce your size as a target, if you can use effective tactical cover, your enemy is using an inaccurate rifle & there's some substantial distance between the two you, your chances of survival greatly increase.
oeyesea 4 months ago
Your opinion on who should have armor is irrelevant and wrong. Civilians can get awesome body armor from many places that are legit and will sell to anyone. In fact. International Armor Corp. has a titanium plate that has better stopping, trapping, weight and price than you can buy even in bulk for an equal plate in one category let alone all. Their 7.62x39 plate takes 2 AP .308s after getting hit by AK and AR AP ammo several times. Check out the YouTube of it. Get some.
gerodb 4 months ago
Thank you for your opinion on this. It helps a lot, heavy = slow, slow = dead. : (
orng1 4 months ago
I am a huge fan of nutnfancy, very much appreciate the time and effort involved in producing these vids.
Respectfully suggest you might want to reconsider your views on civs (otherwise known as "the people") having access to good quality body armor. If they shouldn't have armor, then it would logically follow that they should not have access to firearms either.
studiobtm 4 months ago 2
It's all good, you can make rifle plates yourself...it's pretty easy, lol.
Plastikdoom 4 months ago
So why do u think they shouldn't sell body armor to law abiding citizens? If it comes down to WROL it would be nice to have.
cox380 4 months ago
rosie odonald lol
helms10100 4 months ago
After I saw the grenade test of DragonSkin on Futureweapons, I have a hard time understanding why we still have plate carriers. Do you have any firsthand knowledge of DragonSkin's performance? Cuz the Army seems to be the only group that doesn't think it is vastly superior to traditional plate armor.
nnancewacotrib 5 months ago
@nnancewacotrib It's mainly due to the fact that the adhesive in Dragon Skin melts at high temps (120+ like in Iraq and Afghanistan) and also chips in cold weather.
EugenesterCPU 4 months ago
Y shouldn't I be able to obtain this body armor? Please explain
m0ose22 5 months ago
if nutn can review the dragon skin that'd be exciting oh and awesome job by Veri keep up the good work... -UFmaldonado.
mrsentry08 5 months ago
Well, without any armor, you might get lucky and take a "thru-n-thru" hit ...
... But, lighter armor will cause the projectile to expand before it enters your body ... My point is that, with ball or AP hits, the wound channel might not be as devastating, if you go totally without any armor, as opposed to having a mushroomed and deflected round spinning thru your gutz.
phrankus2009 5 months ago
@phrankus2009 - It's not about bullet expansion, it's about round velocity and cavitation. Any armor that hopes to slow the round down will decrease the amount of injury.
How do I know this? I'm a retired Navy Corpsman and served as a civillian Paramedic for 12 years.
Google ballistics cavitation.
chrisfev01 5 months ago in playlist Firearms related
in the marines i carried about 150 pounds everyday. now that may be alot to civilians that arent use to rigorous fitness levels but as a military solider its not hard. just keep in shape and there will be no problem. but keep this in mind. everytime we came into contact with armor wearers we always went for the head. so if your gonna purchase chest armor then suit up for the whole shebang.
Rooster7902 5 months ago
@Rooster7902 I do not think you are a Marine. You did not capitalize "Marines", and you referred to yourself as a "military soldier".
xXSgtWolfXx 5 months ago
@xXSgtWolfXx Please don't start these stupid arguments. Threre is no point to it. -- Veri
nutnfancy 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@xXSgtWolfXx i dont give a damn what you think. i served......period. besides we are illiterate bastards.
Rooster7902 5 months ago
@xXSgtWolfXx Agreed.
TheRaleighRocket 4 months ago
I don't think he's saying tat NO CIVILIANS should have access to body armor, I use a well-established company to get body armor, I wouldnt wear it everyday, but you better believe that it'll be on in WROL or even when I FEEL I'M IN A HIGH THREAT AREA. Having said that, you have to CALL most companies that sell to civilians, send them current I.D., dont know if they do a background check, most criminals will not wanna go through the hassle. Im for LEGAL civilian access, as its legal where I am.
reeseman67 5 months ago
@runninonempiy The worst kinds of "Republicans" are those who think that growing up in an upper middle class family make them one. Definitely a Democrat, and a VERY liberal one to boot I bet.
TJ347 5 months ago
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TJ347 5 months ago
to conjure up dubious images of a dark figure in the treeline picking old lady's off a park bench at a mile away. Oh I almost forgot "ALL HAIL NUTNFANCY"
speedy28328 5 months ago
@thedmundfitz If you think just because someone has a scope on the rifle means they can kill at 1000 yards you obviously poorly educated in firearms. Shots at that range aren't point and shoot like video games. And these EVIL "sniper rifles" you talk about are the primary firearm for hunting rifles. Technically there is no such thing as a sniper rifle its a SCOPED rifle. I get really ticked when people scream sniper rifle. A .22 CAN BE A SNIPER RIFLE its just a brady campaign fear word
speedy28328 5 months ago
@JohnCTIV
I can see what you're saying, but I think his opinion is that way because unlike firearms, bulletproof armor would be used for protection during criminal activities (robbing banks, muggings, murder, etc) far far more often then simple self-defense and statistics show this. Even though that's true I agree it's odd for him to have a completely opposite view about body armor then weapons.
HAJS5 5 months ago
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WildAZbill 5 months ago
THANK FOR YOUR HARD WORK AN GREAT VIDS ,PLEAS KEEP THEM COMING FROM oREGON.
dirtyer76 5 months ago
I love it.....These plates were designed and are sold by a High school student...And the debates fly on who should own them..Please dont email me any more..You have not lived my life,been thrugh what I have and YOU have no place to tell me what to think...Thank you.
runninonempiy 5 months ago
Way off base on the "nor should they" comment.
This is a purely defensive means of self defense... pepper spray and tasers would be more logical things to outlaw, those could at least be potentially used offensively.
If our police, soldiers, and the drug cartels can have it- I should be able to have it, too. To suggest otherwise is so anti-American it's not even funny.
lamarbrog 5 months ago
@lamarbrog So we should start selling tanks without cannons to civilians because it's "purely defensive"?
thedmundfitz 5 months ago
@thedmundfitz It's called a bulldozer + some steel plates.
Seriously- You see an issue with someone having what amounts to nothing more than an armored car?
lamarbrog 5 months ago
@lamarbrog Indeed I do. Say person x wants to rob a bank. He drives the tank through the front door, jumps out, grabs the money, and leaves. His tank can stop anything the police can throw at him. Steel plates on a bulldozer aren't going to stop rifle bullets.
thedmundfitz 5 months ago
@thedmundfitz You can legally purchase a tank..If you dont like it Leave..I think you would be better of in Mexico..You say you are a republican?I think you better go back to the books.I have read your posts and you clearly make a point of jeopardizing my rights..time and time again..You sound like a democrat to me..
runninonempiy 5 months ago
@runninonempiy What a ridiculous thing to say. I will not leave America because I don't like one particular thing. I will attempt to change it. And what a common thing to tell a person on YouTube to "read up" on something, without any knowledge of a person's education. Again I will say that if you think enforcing laws is "jeopardizing your rights", okay. Why don't you move somewhere else? That is something that cannot be changed. I will say armor and tanks are rarely used by criminals here, so
thedmundfitz 5 months ago
@thedmundfitz Sorry PAL..I did move..From a liberal pos state called Illinois to a gun friendly state called Florida where I am free again.You may have heard of it Or Jeb Busch for that matter..You are a liberal whether you know it or not.And I dont care how book smart a lot of idiots are..I am done with you..RON PAUL 2012
runninonempiy 5 months ago
@thedmundfitz - The new gun law in Florida, which allows Florida residents to use deadly force outside their homes, has boosted sales of body armor to civilians.According to Mr. Luiten, spokesman of EnGarde USA, aggressors might have become more trigger-happy. Not only will they use lethal force more often but also quicker since they know their victim can legally open fire for defense purposes. "We have more then doubled our civilian body armor sales NOW IM DONE WITH YOU!!
runninonempiy 5 months ago
@runninonempiy The worst kinds of "Republicans" are those who think that growing up in an upper middle class family make them one. Definitely a Democrat, and a VERY liberal one to boot I bet.
TJ347 5 months ago
@TJ347
Funny when I hear "democrats" saying the same thing, they are typically very rich. Michael Moore, Nancy Pilosi and the rest all claim to be "for the people" yet are in the upper 10% of income of all Americans. Go figure.
EvilxMerlin 5 months ago
I have to come back and apologize after I vented for 5 min's I was in a bad situation and I get upset when I have to argue about this subject and my experience..Sorry Nutnfancy and thank you for all of your GREAT reviews..I have taken myself out of a bad situation IE a bad place to live and turned it all around moving to a great place like Florida..Living Here I feel like I have rights again..THANK YOU JEB BUSH!!!!!
runninonempiy 5 months ago
YUP ITS BULL SHIT..And I agree with almost every thing Nutnfancy says Even a g17 owner because of him...But not should they????Well....I had to earn a living repossessing cars in Chicago...I left that BULL SHIT state and that was one of the reasons..I almost got arrested over body armor..Un FUCKIN REAL..Is this how MY military is going to act if SHTF???HMMMMM I THINK SO...STACK UP SHEEP DOGS!!!THIS PISSES ME OFF!
runninonempiy 5 months ago
I live in the US, travel in the US. I thought that the whole idea of being American is to have the most freedom that there is in the world. To have these people say you don't need this or that is like saying you don't need a Vet, cause there's VWs that will get you there. It's nothing more than whining.
1DevinOO 6 months ago 2
It's a bummer about the weakness of the rifle plates in real warfare.
SuperRip7 6 months ago
Scottsdale Gun Club will sell you the Palm ASP IV armor for $400... my friend got out the door today for $393, but he's a fed. However, SGC is not a FLY BY NIGHT place as mentioned in the video... they have been around a few years and are a pretty successful business and they WILL sell to civilians, no questions asked. I agree with that since it's a defensive item.
igoodnessi311 6 months ago
Not trying to awaken a debate or anything but civi's are aloud to purchase body armor (void online sales to Connecticut residents and felons). Of course idk every local law so do your research, plus laws are ever changing. It is to the discretion of the seller who they choose to sell to beyond that. I patron civilian sellers of plates and armor because I don't like the idea of sending a 'copying' of my mil ID to random people idk.
hockandrock 6 months ago
Just had flash backs of running around with that on...
gangstaassvideos 6 months ago
Been on two deployments and we never considered, nor were we allowed to, removing our plates to increase mobility. That was Iraq however, Afghanistan may be different, and as you said it was mostly movement within a km or two from the vehicles.
deadohiosky11 6 months ago
"Rosie O'Donnel on your back?" I love it!!!
Why Nutnfancy used that analogy?
Not quite sure but I know that she is a liberal and hypocritical a**hole against guns and good people who have them.
Magnum4554 6 months ago
Also, threat level midnight is the highest there is.
StrengthInSolidarity 6 months ago
I came here for the ride! :3
StrengthInSolidarity 6 months ago
I didn't hear you provide a whole lot of examples where different types of armor might be useful. I thought I'd ask you to do another video covering these considerations.
clarke7703 6 months ago
I think it's important to emphasize that the removing of that backplate by the soldier in "BlackHawk Down" resulting in him being unprotected when he was shot in the back was a result of the situation where the unit was NOT mobile due to the downed aircraft. Mobility was not advantageous in that situation.
clarke7703 6 months ago
If you still read comments to this old video...
Do you have an opinion on Dragonskin?
Is there Any body armor option that doesn't require you to sacrifice too much mobility?
For civilians?
bull068 7 months ago
Yeah. I hear only type 4 plates can stop a 762 54 pruned. Even then, ya got a few broken ribs, and a fractured plate.
marineooo5 7 months ago
IF your plate DOES stops a 7.62X54R I don't think you will be hopping back up into battle...The most likely scenario is that it stops the bullet but you no longer have any intact bones in your torso:D
FTWAnon 7 months ago
Plates work best when the bullet hits at an angle, not straight on. This is just basic physics.
rickcain2320 7 months ago
can't find diamondback tactical online are they still around
randingo305 7 months ago
headshot!
Renagadepatriot 7 months ago
go into a combat zone without plates, pretty much the same as not having ammo.
jcturf311 7 months ago
most cops are liberals why are you suprised
jcturf311 7 months ago
dude just get on ebay and type in sapi plates, no restrictions, dont have to be a tool bag le.....
jcturf311 7 months ago
I personally enjoy the longer videos, sooo tired of those little "puffs" of video people are putting out, some worse than farts and just about as long.
at least here we've got someone who seems to care about content, compared to probably 98 percent of the videos on youtube this is gold.
TroyMccluresbreth 7 months ago
why would a defensive tool be for only law enforcement/military?
this should be hand in hand with the 2nd amendment, how can you get a gun which can kill and can be offensive, where in a defense shield cant be for the mass public. because of a threat?
europa 7 months ago
Does your army not supply you with armour?
rud100le 7 months ago
@azron420 This is a great illustration of how all of us are effected by the subtle and constant barrage of anti-gun/victim disarmament propaganda machine. This is one of my favorite most informative channels but even nutn shows the far reach of the subtle mind control tactics that permeate society. Stay vigilant and point it out. Follow ideas and principles not people and groups. Too see the cage is to escape the cage.
Malbrojia 7 months ago
I can't believe that you don't think I should be able to buy defensive armor. I lost a little bit of respect for u nutn :(. don't worry still a lot left but dang.
hippiestomper17 8 months ago 18
"Liquid Armor" is better and can buy all the chemicals you need off of Ebay. Soft Kevlar into Semi hard armor for dirt cheap compaired too the price of plates.
Soaking your kevlar in shear thickening fluids is a revolution in armor. The Army is Testing it as i type this.
ScientologySucksAss 8 months ago
Could two IIIA bulletproof vests stop 5.56x45 mm and 7.62x39 mm bullets?
SokolskiSniper 8 months ago
Too bad body armor is too expensive for most people. Also many company's don't sell to civilians.... snobs
warriorofsteel01 8 months ago
i love your videos..but i disagree with one thing....everyone has the right to life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness...therefore even if im the biggest scum in the world i have the right to wear body armour...if someone is that bad in the long run body armour wont help....thats all...keep upthe good work...
angrynhpatriot 8 months ago
hello, you got a point there. i want to ask you if you have any idea what happens if i havee two vests level II an use all the soft inserts on only one vest. so i would have a vest with two level II panels in each pocket. it will increase the protection level? waiting for your answer.
jandarmul2000 8 months ago
I have known many people in the the military world that had their lives saved by their body armor. If you say it is too much weight and you rather cut back on your amour, just face the fact you are weak and need to train more in your kit to get use to the level of protection you need for the job that you are doing. There is a trade off but the costly, tragic lessons have already been learned on the field of battle concerning to armor or not to armor.
MrLamont1975 8 months ago
Getting BA is not difficult or illegal for the law abiding citizen. "a real place" like ebay?
Nutnfancy you are 2/3 retarded. And I know you are here in Utah. One of these days I will bump into you at a TAC store or gun range. Whenn I do I will probably verbally abuse you.
AlpineStorm 8 months ago 3
OMG I DIED when he said rosie o donnel
FatalParalax 8 months ago
what is the point of offering a military/LEO discount if they only sell to military/LEO?
teampai 8 months ago 3
Don't know why law abiding civilians aren't allowed to own BA.
Plenty of instances in recent history when BA would have saved lives.
QuiksiIver 8 months ago
@QuiksiIver Civilians can by BA in most states
smokybob63 8 months ago
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cliffcox66 8 months ago
@smokybob63 Yes, It's not against the law in most states, and if you want body armor, get it. People don't have to be in the military, or law enforcement. You can be the owner of a liquor store, or just a person who wants to be prepared, as in L.A. for riots, which occur at the drop of a dime. You have the right to defend yourself.
cliffcox66 8 months ago
did you test the Dragon Skin body armor ? lot of independents ballistics tests showed it outperformed classic armor plates.
xenomorphelv426 8 months ago
@nebula25x yeah he said he didnt plan on getting shot in the back guess he was proven wrong
riseagainst201218 8 months ago
Anyone can buy plate body armor. It isnt illegal to buy or own. If a company wants to be an idiot and not sell to civilians knock yourself out but you will find plenty other companies who will. I have to say I have little respect for anyone that thinks only LE and GIs are the only people who are "ethically allowed" to wear body armor.
HunterHornet 9 months ago 2
True these things can get heavy, but don't be the couch potato and not get conditioned with your vest...just throwing that out there. If the vest is worn right to the body you can still have a great amount of movement.
hometownsouthernman 9 months ago
just an FYI to you guys who are hate'n on nutn, you can buy youre own softarmor vests without having any LE or military id. Just gotta know where to look.
Ranger4321 9 months ago
Nutn, i normally enjoy your vids, but as been said already, civies hav just as much right to protect themselves as Miltary and LE. And as far as the weight....yeah it sux carryin it around all day, i know, but its a comfort. And as soon as u get shot at, ADRENALINE kicks in and you no longer feel any of the weight. Ur ass gets moving quick fast and in a hurry. Believe me.
irons0331 9 months ago
"They dont sell to any body,nor should they"....Thats where i stopped watching,fuck you and your stupid ass videos you stupid fuck.How is the life of LEO more important than a civilians?WTF is that shit?We dont have a right to protect ourselves?What a fucking moron.
urungutang 9 months ago 2
....nutn you can easily get body armor here in the US, currently there is only one state that restricts it, and that's Connecticut. all other states it's about the same as acquiring a CCW, you can't be a felon ect....and you can't use it in the process of comiting a felony.....other than that you can own and use body armor.
GrenMoyo 9 months ago
"They don't sell to anyone, nor should they?" Who doesn't rate the right to life against gunfire? If a purely defensive form of self defense isn't acceptable to you, how do you really feel about selling firearms to people without credentials? I think your inconsistent there and should rethink that view. Thanks for the info.
Malbrojia 9 months ago 37
@Malbrojia I can see your point but think about someone who's unstable, if they all of a sudden decide to go on a massacre and they go and buy body armour so they can cause as much carnage as possible. Yes it would benefit someone in defence but if your defending your home are you really going to put this heavy crap on? Ive worn similar stuff in prisons during riots and let me tell you that stuffs light compared to what nutns saying but you still wont walk around with it on all day.
MrMapex2010 6 months ago
@MrMapex2010 Good job you just joined the nanny state left as everything you said could be used to disarm the public if you switch armor out for guns. Imagine if an unstable person gets ahold of a gun.... we shouldnt be able to arm ourselves. Could you imagine the carnage. Sure it would help you defend yourself, but are u really gon lug around a heavy old black rifle? blah blah blah.
Malbrojia 6 months ago
@Malbrojia I actually strongly support it and believe the restictions should be lifted. Consider this scenario, a nutter walks into a mall to shoot as many people as possible. A law abidding citizen carrying a gun fires two shots into the nutters chest killing him and possibly saving numerous lives. Now if that man was wearing a vest and the law abidding citizen fired two shots into his chest, the nutter would probably trun round and shoot the citizen before taking many other lives with him.
MrMapex2010 6 months ago
@Malbrojia
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Second scenario, a man breaks into your house wearing a, you fire into his chest and he shoots back killing you instantly. Once you're dead you're no help to your family and they are raped and killed. I am not a supporter of the protectionists and the culture of banning everything that posses a threat, but I could see this making the task of law enforcement and protecting our families harder. Dont want to start an argument just exe