Another traitor and scumbag. Let her rot in prison with the other cowards (Cook & Lankin). She's a disgrace to the military & the USA. Amazes me how many of u Birther dolts continue to support these scumbags.
@clarity023 What makes you think that he is even a citizen,, Being a citizen is not enough, Theres that pesty word natrual before it and born. You realy should do a study on the subject before you shoot your mouth off.
"Being a citizen is not enough" He is not only a citizen, he is a natural born citizen by jus soli principle, read it, it is stated in US Constitution. Anybody born on US soil is a natural born, parents citizenship is irrelevant. I can show you many Supreme Court cases if you want.
Here is one: Wong Kim Ark, born here his parents were Chinese NOT naturalized, how is that?
@clarity023 Clarity, are you a little mentely disturbred? It takes 2 american citizens to produce a natrual born. Until Obama relices his papers we dont even know who either of his parents are.
@clarity023 Glad to hear that your a member of the spelling police. If you have never read ,Its every where, Tat it takes 2 to make a natrual born, then you have a bad case of tunnel vision,, Ps if you think that I,m going to proff read all my comments,just for you, there is something wrong with you,, Out of curiosity,have you read the Manchurion president?
The Supreme Court first observed that even though born of Italian Parents, he was a dual citizen at birth.
Petitioner Mandoli was born in this country, of unnaturalized Italian parents. These circumstances made him a natural born citizen of the United States by virtue of our Constitution and a national of Italy by virtue of Italian law.
Miss Elg born in NY of Swedish parents:Natural born.
cont. Judge Land told this idiot Oily Titz ( the Drag Queen on thisvideo) "Congress is satisfied with Obama's qualifications, he produced a short form bc which states he was born in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961"
That means if you're born here you're natural born.
Did you watch Lingle's video? She said Obama was born in Hawaii at the Kapiolani and he is a natural born citizen "time to move over" you are just mad 'cause u lost your ass in the elections.
america america america...shame on you! to much junk food, hollywood, football games, beer, stupidity culture and propaganda. shame on america, shame on america!!!
Unfortunately for moonbat Orly Taitz, CPT Rhodes has now wised up and not only dropped the frivolous case but is filing an action against Orly Taitz.
It's time to disbar Orly, she is using the courts and the military to advance her nutty conspiracy theory.
But hey, you Birthers go for it - it's time we did away with the Republican party and got a real conservative one to replace it and you guys are doing a fine job of discrediting them by affiliation. Go birthers go!!!
how did obama's mother get over to kenya? did she swim she only 17? why did she go to kenya she wasnt with the father? were did she live on the streets? she didnt have a job how did she eat ?
"Federal Election Commission records for 'Obama for America' show that the lobby organization has paid international law firm Perkins Coie exactly 1,352,378.95 since the 2008 election."
The idiots hope believing in Santa makes him real. And they believe in getting mad makes this go away. And they believe in images posted on the internet. Imagine the Prozac needed to keep you that dumb? Just stay asleep and please help us Obama. We don't care if you are from Kenya and raised in Indonesia. Please, be our President.
Obama: Hey Gibbs, I'm going to spend $1.4 Million in legal fees on keeping my BC under wraps."
Gibbs: "But Mr. President, you ALREADY posted it on the internet. SO why waste $1.4 M legal fees keeping it sealed?
Obama: "Oh, I just like burning through money and making people guess.
Gibbs: But don't you come from humble roots and a single mom that struggled? Why on earth spend so, so much money keeping something you already revealed?"
The only problem is that at least some of Obama's attorneys are working pro bono, so he's really not spent anything fighting birther suits. Also, there is not one birther suit that would be satisfied with the production of the original birth certificate from 1961.
You also fail to prove that every single cent Obama's campaign spent on legal fees went ONLY to these birther suits.
Epic fail, but then again, what else is new in the land of the birthers?
pro bono. kick backs. nothing is free and favors are returned. yes, $1.4M spent and climbing. Harvard got his BC by just asking. The American people can't get it because he does not serve the Public, he plays the public. But fools like you help him play the public, and play you. He's got you under his finger with really bad rhetoric. Troops pulled out of Middle East? yeah, sure. Natural Born? yeah, sure. You must believe Mark MacGuire too. People hide from issues, you believe them.
of course it is the case. why spend any money covering up a document to the American people that you already gave to Harvard and Occidental college? Because his second language is English. Raised in Indonesia. Took Muslim school and religion. This guy is a fake and you are so easily fooled. He waves a flag and promises to end the war... you probably believe that too. No war in Middle East is ending on Obama's clock. He is ducking truth. He is lucky to have people like you to buy his BS.
He's not covering anything up. His birth certificate is on the internet, you just refuse to acknowledge it as such.
He's not spending money defending against these suits. At least some of the lawyers have publicly said they're working pro bono on birther suits.
Please don't comment again until you learn what pro bono actually means and how that makes it impossible that Obama has spent $1.4 million on these suits.
Is anyone else reading qwertyman's post?? His birth certificate is "on the internet"? What a fool. I suppose if I post my $500 bills on the internet you'll believe me too? Man, dumbing down of America has hit the point where people believe in pictures posted on the internet to be real. Federal Election Commission records for 'Obama for America' show that the lobby organization has paid international law firm Perkins Coie exactly 1,352,378.95 since the 2008 election."
Yes, his birth certificate is on the internet. What, do you want him to mail a copy to every American in the country?
And yes, Obama's campaign spent money on lawyers. How do you know what they spent it on? At least some have said they work for free on the birther cases.
It's more plausible that that money was spent on compliance with election and funding laws, office leases and other logistics. Your argument is that every cent of that was spent on birther suits, without any evidence at all.
"Yes, his birth certificate is on the internet?" Is that what he told Harvard when entering?Get my BC on the internet? Dude, I can post a picture of my Ferrari on the internet but it doesn't mean it's mine. Jeez, you just believe fools gold. Of course the law firm is being paid. Pro bono work is done for underprivileged people, not fraud President's put into office by bankers. He is a banker puppet trying to spread banking Bail Out.
No, Harvard (nor any other law school) asks for a birth certificate with your application, nor do they ask for one upon acceptance.
Pro bono is legal services provided without cost as a public service. What work is considered to be pro bono is largely at the discretion of the lawyer involved. The law firm has been paid, but not to fight birther suits.
Again, what do you want, Obama to mail every American a copy of his birth certificate?
HIs birth certificate is NOT on the Internet. There is a phoney (photoshopped) copy of a "Certificate of Live Birth," but that in no way serves as a birth certificate. You coulndn't take one and us it to get a joba at McDonald's in Hawaii. You need a "Birth Certificate." you're clouding the issue with false information, based on false documentation. Nothing changes the fact that the Constitution says Natural born, and Obama isn't - or at least hasn't proven to me, but I'm just an American Right?
That COLB is good for a passport or anything else you'd need identification for under state and federal law. It's backed by several statements from the HI Department of Health.
There are also multiple contemporary birth announcements, multiple people who remember Obama's birth in Hawaii firsthand, and absolutely no evidence to suggest Obama was not born in Hawaii.
You may not feel you've been given proof, but that's your personal problem. I am more sure of Obama's birth than I am of Palin's.
No, but if you posted $500 bills online and then the manager of your bank verified that you have the funds in your account, I'd believe you then. Obama posted his COLB online and the State of Hawaii has verified that he was born there. Stop acting like an idiot.
And since then he has spent much more money keeping the original from being dislosed. Hawaii can "testify" to it but can't release it. and he won't release it. why? you know why. man, where are all the brooklyn bridges i had to sell people like you. they must see you coming at the flea market.
And they need to see you at some psychiatric hospital to get you past all of your delusions. If you ever can produce even one piece of evidence to back up your claims, get back to me. Until then stop acting the idiot.
English is first language. He spent 4 years in Indonesia and returned to the US by age 10. Was everything about your life defined by what you did prior to age 10?
No, and I also don't hide the fact around it. Go to any official site and there is no mention of his foster father, his name Barry Soetoro or his Indonesian Muslim school. Indonesia is 95% Muslim. His first language was not English. Dig deep enough, you will see that is true. You're wrong.
He did not go to Indonesia until he was six years old. He was raised in Hawaii before that. They speak English in Hawaii. His first language was English. He has spoke openly about Lolo Soetoro all his life. It is in his book. He is not hiding anything about it. In Indonesia, he went to 2 different schools. Only one of those taught Islam. One class a day during his two years at the school. Anything else you want to be proven wrong at? You seem to like being wrong.
...and this bitch takes the phrase 'media whore' to a whole new level...a Russian/ KGB/ Jew/ Mossad plant sent to disrupt our ENTIRE judicial system...well ya can't say them Russians/ Jews ain't got a sense of humor?! (ok, so I'd let her give me a root canal as long as she was naked during the procedure! ;)
sweet jeebus, if I had an Oily Taintz for a lawyer/ dentist I sure wouldn't advertise it in federal court! this bitch is so fucking funny, I love her!!!
I'm sorry everyone, but some people are just nuts plain and simple and should not be defended. I am offended that I was even made aware of this "story."
And I am offended to live in a country that elected a Kenyan for President. It's almost funny, if it's not sad. Sad for the country and sad for the people who continue to be duped. Just plain duped. McCain? Over everyone's head. Photo of BC? Good enough for most. Ambassador of Kenya who admits Obama was born in Kenya? Keep your head in the sand... prozac on the table as you continue to live in Prozac and Fast Food Nation. Back in the Us, back in the US, back in the USSR.
I know you are sorry. Obama commits perjury. That is a crime. just like when mommy told you about Santa Claus. Mommy, I need more Prozac. Obama took all our donations and told us he was honest. And now he is hiding from his BC proof. Of course he can be removed. He is a fraud. But the good news is that truth will set you free. Stop living in fear of truth. No need for Prozac, you just need to learn politician's can't be trusted. Obama is a banker puppet.
Ok, try to follow along.McCain: McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama. Ok? Understand what you just read? Good. Now he is NOT a 'natural born US Citizen' and so Judge Land is a fool to throw out the case. McCain ran, so did Obama. Obama was also NOT born in the US. But he has lots of money from banks. That is why you get angry at Ortiz. She is trying to free you but you just want to go back to sleep like the bankers want.
$1.4 M spent hiding his birth certificate; irrelevant. Obama is JUST like Mark MacGuire. He has everything to hide so he ain't talking. So clear... yet brainwashed followers believe what they are told. Good little boys and girls; why think for yourself when Obama tells you what to think. Good luck to you.
Except that a child born on a US Military Installation to a US officer IS considered to be a natural born citizen.
Face it - nobody gives a shit what you people think. You're even more of a fringe-element than the 9/11 goof movement. Give it up. Start taking your meds again and spend some time with your family - you'll feel much better, I promise.
No, you are wrong. "Natural Born" means NOT naturalized. Not just having parents. you are clearly brain washed. and you can't even reason English like plain English, "natural born". Wow, you are lost. But we all get the fact that CNN owns your opinion so we don't hold it against you.
And I love the fact you all think we went to war for WMD and justice... and the heroin in Afghanistan? Just coincidence. We could stop the heroin, but we don't want to. We could defeat Iraq; we just don't want to. Wow, you just believe everything told to you on CNN. CNN- half the truth, all the time. It is you who need Prozac just to deal with the brainwashing Bush and his buddies need to stay rich and keep you poor..
Ah, so easy for all to see when victory appears... the loser (you in this case) resorts to last ditch insults because he knows his logic is thwarted. Not that you had much logic to thwart, but proof is proof. Now if I were getting all angry and insulting you might have some proof of your victory. But I am not, and you do not. Game complete. bye now.
Honestly just kill yourself. Let's pretend you're right about Obama not being a citizen. HE'S ALREADY TAKEN THE OATH. So according to your precious constitution he can't be removed from office. So what do you hope to accomplish?
no, it starts with the US Constitution. And ends with the same. Obama spends your tax money hiding behind his Kenyan Roots. But you, being foolish, don't understand.
No there will be a hearing in January. Just like McCain was born in Panama Canal Zone, Obama was born out of the US. Not in the US; but OUT of the US. He is a banker puppet fraud. But you are one of the farm animals just happy to eat and sleep and have no education to understand the Constitution. Zero.
Yeah, you are right. Panama Canal Zone is a US State. Puerto Rico is too. You must have graduated Red Neck University and majored in US Geography where any territory can be called US. Man isn't there a preschool Youtube you should be reading? Or sesame street geography class you should be attending? Virgin Islands US State too? What wheels are on your bus???
Dude, I voted for Obama. I have nothing against Obama until i found out he is a liar and fraud. Clinton was a liar too. He did not inhale?? He did not have sex?? He is a liar. Nothing wrong with inhaling pot or having sex. Everything wrong with lying to America. Obama is another liar. Nothing to do with politics.
LLORT3, Look at the brightside. Orly Taitz does not have the discipline to win this case. These people who believe in her - I got a bridge to sell them that connects Brooklyn to Manhattan Island. If Orly can con them then i should have no problem doing the same.
I' m sorry! I forgot about the demographics of Brooklyn and the Lower East Side. They would not want that area then. I will have to sell them Brighton Beach instead.
I just LOVE simple minds like LLORT3 that try to show they are intelligent. They can't help but slurring and making others wonder why they post at all... Obama is not going to want a simple mind like you defending him. He's gonna be ashamed to have someone like you defending him. Whoops. You lost.
You know you are right. I mean, there probably were WMD that Bush found. And Bush is not in the Oil business so I am sure Iraq was all about Freedom and Not oil. And I know Afghanistan has 75% of the worlds Heroin production but now that we occupy that place I am SURE they are burning the fields and cleaning up heroin. There is SO much truth in our government I wish I could be like you and believe it all. Do you have to take alot of Prozac to do that? Or is it Zanax? What keeps you asleep?
George W. Bush and his faher, George H. W. Bush, each owe much of their net worth to profits from oil company jobs where it's not clear what actual work they did.
You see you don't know how to lose. So you say, "don't reply to me". How low is your IQ? Well, if you can manage, go to myspace page and see that Obama himself says he is 52. And then he says he is 48. He is confused. So are you. And anger and Meds are how you cope. Just tone it down. When you lose a debate: accept it.
Fun Fact: the judge dismissed the case and warned Orly that if she came forward with an entirely theoretical case she'd be sanctioned for frivolous law suits.
And frankly, there is no evidence to support the claims put forth by the birther movement'; just a lot of supposition and theory.
Well Obama can't get his story straight either. Go to his MYSPACE page, the official one where he accepts donations and volunteers. It lists him as 52 years old. 52? 48? A class action lawsuit should be filed against him for fraud and damages for accepting donations and volunteer hours even though he ran in fraud. You see if you can figure out his myspace page, I'm sure you're pissed off that you can't answer his myspace information. and people that cover for him get angry when the truth hits.
to debalazo: Which individuals of the Jewish faith are you refering to? Or are your comments just more blanket attacks on anyone and everyone who follows a particular religion?
You don't consider lying about being eligible for the presidency a high crime? Assuming he's not a natural born citizen (after all, we are hypothetical at this point).
Two apparent facts according to Obama himself:
#1 Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen
#2 Neither parent was prosecuting business in the U.S. (they were both students who actually lived in Kenya). Prosecuting business is the requirement for native born. If you're just "visiting" the kid ain't a U.S. citizen.
The grounds for impeachment are "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." Which one of these looks "We, the Congress of the United States, didn't pay attention when we certified the President's election"?
densely, treason was committed by all the jew animals who catapulted the illegal alien into the WH. The obumanation didn't commit treason, he committed perjury, usurpation of powers, and became a subversive agent for a foreign master when he accepted to run and take the seat at the Senate. Presidency? He deserves his punishment directly from the Constitution, and WILL. There was NO inatention, there was collusion to commit a CRIME.
md, this is magnicide against the USA. These animals just KILLED DEAD the Presidency. To install an illegal alien and subversive agent, merits the harshest penalty by law, hanging to death, or shot before a military squad. You cannot impeach a NON citizen and NON president. The puppet is a subversive agent, co-conspirator with the jews, and only merits arrest, indictment, and exemplary punishment to set the record straigh for any future wannabe repeater.
desnsely, where you get your laws from, Tel Aviv? The City? When 90% of criminal and traitors in Congress turn their faces away from a mega crime about to be committed, even, cover up all evidence or refuse to investigate before the facts, all these are as guilty as oBaama, and guilty as HELL. There was NO election, it was a SELECTION, and of the WORST piece of trash to visit the DC. It is coming. One judge's order will start the fateful demise of the ZOG and your breed in the USA.
You are so wrong. It is called FRAUD. He knows how old he is and where he was born. So if he runs AS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, but he's not. Uh, that's called fraud. And if he lies under OATH? Since he took an Oath to Preserve and Protect the Constitution, which is there to protect the people. Well that's called Perjury. Clearly you have no clue. Fraud. Perjury. Do you even know on his official MYSPACE page he lists his age at 52?? Even he can't get his age right. What a bumble he is.
Is the State of Hawaii a competent authority to maintain birth records or not? If not, how do we know whether ANYBODY is a natural-born citizen? How much do you remember of your own birth?
Did Obama somehow insert announcements of his birth into the archives of two Honolulu newspapers when he decided to run for office?
Well I know about his Myspace page because I went there and he lists his age as 52. Granted, he didn't create the site but it is the official site, so it is bizarre. In terms of Hawaii they are maintaining records, but they cannot release without his consent and he will not release them. Even though it is common to release them for school entrance. Do i know for sure? No. Does anyone know? No. But he serves us as President; we deserve to know the truth.
We deserve to know when he was born, where he was born, and who his parents were. Hawaii's Certificate of Live Birth gives the information that the State of Hawaii certifies for all births, which includes these vital data. Hawaii can give the same information for a child born in a hospital, born at its grandparents' home, or born in the back of a taxicab. They've decided to give out their certification on their own form rather than stamp something they're given by a hospital.
You're placing the burden of proof in the wrong place. The "Birther" movement must provide concrete proof that Obama was not born in the country. You can't just come up with conjecture and expect him to prove his citizenship in court. That's not the way things work.
@mattc867 : The way things are "suppose" to work is that a person cannot BE or even RUN for the office of the president of the USA unless he is a natural-born citizen. It is not up to the American people to prove he isn't or wasn't anything the basic fact is he cannot be president unless he is a natural-born citizen. IS he? Since when did conjecture supplant the constitution? Why did he have ALLLLLLL his records, from all his educational endeavors sealed? Isn't that jusr a little suspicious 2u?
"Since when did conjecture supplant the constitution?"
Umm, are you serious?
That's exactly my point. While I don't even find this remotely suspicious (and for the record his birth records are NOT sealed), the fact remains that something being "a little suspicious" is not grounds to mount a legal case. Birthers are demanding he prove his innocence (or in this case, nationality) and that just isn't the way things work. So says our constitution.
@Evangelander Actually, you are incorrect. The Constitution does NOT restrict who may RUN FOR President. The Constitution only restricts who may SERVE AS President. The Constitution even addresses what would happen if someone who was not eligible to be President was elected President.
wow, Dr. Taitz sure had a busy week, just coming off of a hearing in California on Tuesday in another eligibility case, where Obama did not get his motion to dismiss granted -- at least not yet, instead he got a trial date!
Another traitor and scumbag. Let her rot in prison with the other cowards (Cook & Lankin). She's a disgrace to the military & the USA. Amazes me how many of u Birther dolts continue to support these scumbags.
lovecraftis 9 months ago
Je Paul : All the lawsuits have been dumped now 70+ even by the Supreme Court, those sources you cite are not reliable.
President Obama is a US citizen. You can believe the Supreme Court or you can believe the Queen Bee of the Birther.
Get over it he won!
clarity023 1 year ago
@clarity023 What makes you think that he is even a citizen,, Being a citizen is not enough, Theres that pesty word natrual before it and born. You realy should do a study on the subject before you shoot your mouth off.
doncarlsanders 1 year ago
@doncarlsanders
"Being a citizen is not enough" He is not only a citizen, he is a natural born citizen by jus soli principle, read it, it is stated in US Constitution. Anybody born on US soil is a natural born, parents citizenship is irrelevant. I can show you many Supreme Court cases if you want.
Here is one: Wong Kim Ark, born here his parents were Chinese NOT naturalized, how is that?
clarity023 1 year ago
@clarity023 Clarity, are you a little mentely disturbred? It takes 2 american citizens to produce a natrual born. Until Obama relices his papers we dont even know who either of his parents are.
doncarlsanders 1 year ago
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clarity023 1 year ago
@clarity023 Glad to hear that your a member of the spelling police. If you have never read ,Its every where, Tat it takes 2 to make a natrual born, then you have a bad case of tunnel vision,, Ps if you think that I,m going to proff read all my comments,just for you, there is something wrong with you,, Out of curiosity,have you read the Manchurion president?
doncarlsanders 1 year ago
@doncarlsanders
MANDOLI v. ACHESON, 344 U.S. 133 (1952)
The Supreme Court first observed that even though born of Italian Parents, he was a dual citizen at birth.
Petitioner Mandoli was born in this country, of unnaturalized Italian parents. These circumstances made him a natural born citizen of the United States by virtue of our Constitution and a national of Italy by virtue of Italian law.
Miss Elg born in NY of Swedish parents:Natural born.
cont.
clarity023 1 year ago
@clarity023 Clarity, I hope you don,t realy believe the crap your feeding me.
doncarlsanders 1 year ago
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arianasaki 1 year ago
@doncarlsanders
cont. Judge Land told this idiot Oily Titz ( the Drag Queen on thisvideo) "Congress is satisfied with Obama's qualifications, he produced a short form bc which states he was born in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961"
That means if you're born here you're natural born.
Did you watch Lingle's video? She said Obama was born in Hawaii at the Kapiolani and he is a natural born citizen "time to move over" you are just mad 'cause u lost your ass in the elections.
End of story, bye
clarity023 1 year ago
@doncarlsanders
Listen to what the REPUBLICAN governor Linda said about Obama's bc
/watch?v=28W_9feWxBg
She even signed an antibirfoon law haha, losers.
clarity023 1 year ago
@doncarlsanders
Now shut up.
clarity023 1 year ago
america america america...shame on you! to much junk food, hollywood, football games, beer, stupidity culture and propaganda. shame on america, shame on america!!!
wdcsucks1 1 year ago
Unfortunately for moonbat Orly Taitz, CPT Rhodes has now wised up and not only dropped the frivolous case but is filing an action against Orly Taitz.
It's time to disbar Orly, she is using the courts and the military to advance her nutty conspiracy theory.
But hey, you Birthers go for it - it's time we did away with the Republican party and got a real conservative one to replace it and you guys are doing a fine job of discrediting them by affiliation. Go birthers go!!!
danboone143 2 years ago
how did obama's mother get over to kenya? did she swim she only 17? why did she go to kenya she wasnt with the father? were did she live on the streets? she didnt have a job how did she eat ?
sillycandie007 2 years ago
"Federal Election Commission records for 'Obama for America' show that the lobby organization has paid international law firm Perkins Coie exactly 1,352,378.95 since the 2008 election."
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
You idiots can laugh all you want but this isnt gonna just go away
x4167 2 years ago
The idiots hope believing in Santa makes him real. And they believe in getting mad makes this go away. And they believe in images posted on the internet. Imagine the Prozac needed to keep you that dumb? Just stay asleep and please help us Obama. We don't care if you are from Kenya and raised in Indonesia. Please, be our President.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
when will this oily taint bitch get a heart attack. jeez.
LLORT3 2 years ago
Obama: Hey Gibbs, I'm going to spend $1.4 Million in legal fees on keeping my BC under wraps."
Gibbs: "But Mr. President, you ALREADY posted it on the internet. SO why waste $1.4 M legal fees keeping it sealed?
Obama: "Oh, I just like burning through money and making people guess.
Gibbs: But don't you come from humble roots and a single mom that struggled? Why on earth spend so, so much money keeping something you already revealed?"
Obama: I like burning through money"
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
The only problem is that at least some of Obama's attorneys are working pro bono, so he's really not spent anything fighting birther suits. Also, there is not one birther suit that would be satisfied with the production of the original birth certificate from 1961.
You also fail to prove that every single cent Obama's campaign spent on legal fees went ONLY to these birther suits.
Epic fail, but then again, what else is new in the land of the birthers?
qwertyman129 2 years ago
pro bono. kick backs. nothing is free and favors are returned. yes, $1.4M spent and climbing. Harvard got his BC by just asking. The American people can't get it because he does not serve the Public, he plays the public. But fools like you help him play the public, and play you. He's got you under his finger with really bad rhetoric. Troops pulled out of Middle East? yeah, sure. Natural Born? yeah, sure. You must believe Mark MacGuire too. People hide from issues, you believe them.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
Hey, pro bono means no money payment. So you say Obama has spent $1.4 mil on birther suits, and that absolutely is not the case.
qwertyman129 2 years ago
of course it is the case. why spend any money covering up a document to the American people that you already gave to Harvard and Occidental college? Because his second language is English. Raised in Indonesia. Took Muslim school and religion. This guy is a fake and you are so easily fooled. He waves a flag and promises to end the war... you probably believe that too. No war in Middle East is ending on Obama's clock. He is ducking truth. He is lucky to have people like you to buy his BS.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
He's not covering anything up. His birth certificate is on the internet, you just refuse to acknowledge it as such.
He's not spending money defending against these suits. At least some of the lawyers have publicly said they're working pro bono on birther suits.
Please don't comment again until you learn what pro bono actually means and how that makes it impossible that Obama has spent $1.4 million on these suits.
qwertyman129 2 years ago
Is anyone else reading qwertyman's post?? His birth certificate is "on the internet"? What a fool. I suppose if I post my $500 bills on the internet you'll believe me too? Man, dumbing down of America has hit the point where people believe in pictures posted on the internet to be real. Federal Election Commission records for 'Obama for America' show that the lobby organization has paid international law firm Perkins Coie exactly 1,352,378.95 since the 2008 election."
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
Yes, his birth certificate is on the internet. What, do you want him to mail a copy to every American in the country?
And yes, Obama's campaign spent money on lawyers. How do you know what they spent it on? At least some have said they work for free on the birther cases.
It's more plausible that that money was spent on compliance with election and funding laws, office leases and other logistics. Your argument is that every cent of that was spent on birther suits, without any evidence at all.
qwertyman129 2 years ago
"Yes, his birth certificate is on the internet?" Is that what he told Harvard when entering?Get my BC on the internet? Dude, I can post a picture of my Ferrari on the internet but it doesn't mean it's mine. Jeez, you just believe fools gold. Of course the law firm is being paid. Pro bono work is done for underprivileged people, not fraud President's put into office by bankers. He is a banker puppet trying to spread banking Bail Out.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
No, Harvard (nor any other law school) asks for a birth certificate with your application, nor do they ask for one upon acceptance.
Pro bono is legal services provided without cost as a public service. What work is considered to be pro bono is largely at the discretion of the lawyer involved. The law firm has been paid, but not to fight birther suits.
Again, what do you want, Obama to mail every American a copy of his birth certificate?
qwertyman129 2 years ago
HIs birth certificate is NOT on the Internet. There is a phoney (photoshopped) copy of a "Certificate of Live Birth," but that in no way serves as a birth certificate. You coulndn't take one and us it to get a joba at McDonald's in Hawaii. You need a "Birth Certificate." you're clouding the issue with false information, based on false documentation. Nothing changes the fact that the Constitution says Natural born, and Obama isn't - or at least hasn't proven to me, but I'm just an American Right?
Evangelander 2 years ago
That COLB is good for a passport or anything else you'd need identification for under state and federal law. It's backed by several statements from the HI Department of Health.
There are also multiple contemporary birth announcements, multiple people who remember Obama's birth in Hawaii firsthand, and absolutely no evidence to suggest Obama was not born in Hawaii.
You may not feel you've been given proof, but that's your personal problem. I am more sure of Obama's birth than I am of Palin's.
qwertyman129 2 years ago
No, but if you posted $500 bills online and then the manager of your bank verified that you have the funds in your account, I'd believe you then. Obama posted his COLB online and the State of Hawaii has verified that he was born there. Stop acting like an idiot.
tgear77 2 years ago
And since then he has spent much more money keeping the original from being dislosed. Hawaii can "testify" to it but can't release it. and he won't release it. why? you know why. man, where are all the brooklyn bridges i had to sell people like you. they must see you coming at the flea market.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
And they need to see you at some psychiatric hospital to get you past all of your delusions. If you ever can produce even one piece of evidence to back up your claims, get back to me. Until then stop acting the idiot.
tgear77 2 years ago
English is first language. He spent 4 years in Indonesia and returned to the US by age 10. Was everything about your life defined by what you did prior to age 10?
tgear77 2 years ago
No, and I also don't hide the fact around it. Go to any official site and there is no mention of his foster father, his name Barry Soetoro or his Indonesian Muslim school. Indonesia is 95% Muslim. His first language was not English. Dig deep enough, you will see that is true. You're wrong.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
He did not go to Indonesia until he was six years old. He was raised in Hawaii before that. They speak English in Hawaii. His first language was English. He has spoke openly about Lolo Soetoro all his life. It is in his book. He is not hiding anything about it. In Indonesia, he went to 2 different schools. Only one of those taught Islam. One class a day during his two years at the school. Anything else you want to be proven wrong at? You seem to like being wrong.
tgear77 2 years ago
...and this bitch takes the phrase 'media whore' to a whole new level...a Russian/ KGB/ Jew/ Mossad plant sent to disrupt our ENTIRE judicial system...well ya can't say them Russians/ Jews ain't got a sense of humor?! (ok, so I'd let her give me a root canal as long as she was naked during the procedure! ;)
oneirishpoet 2 years ago
sweet jeebus, if I had an Oily Taintz for a lawyer/ dentist I sure wouldn't advertise it in federal court! this bitch is so fucking funny, I love her!!!
oneirishpoet 2 years ago
Her accent is ironic...
kernel16 2 years ago
I'm sorry everyone, but some people are just nuts plain and simple and should not be defended. I am offended that I was even made aware of this "story."
badtown88 2 years ago
And I am offended to live in a country that elected a Kenyan for President. It's almost funny, if it's not sad. Sad for the country and sad for the people who continue to be duped. Just plain duped. McCain? Over everyone's head. Photo of BC? Good enough for most. Ambassador of Kenya who admits Obama was born in Kenya? Keep your head in the sand... prozac on the table as you continue to live in Prozac and Fast Food Nation. Back in the Us, back in the US, back in the USSR.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
I know you are sorry. Obama commits perjury. That is a crime. just like when mommy told you about Santa Claus. Mommy, I need more Prozac. Obama took all our donations and told us he was honest. And now he is hiding from his BC proof. Of course he can be removed. He is a fraud. But the good news is that truth will set you free. Stop living in fear of truth. No need for Prozac, you just need to learn politician's can't be trusted. Obama is a banker puppet.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
Ok, try to follow along.McCain: McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama. Ok? Understand what you just read? Good. Now he is NOT a 'natural born US Citizen' and so Judge Land is a fool to throw out the case. McCain ran, so did Obama. Obama was also NOT born in the US. But he has lots of money from banks. That is why you get angry at Ortiz. She is trying to free you but you just want to go back to sleep like the bankers want.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
Who the fuck is Otriz
badtown88 2 years ago
Birth announcements in two Honolulu newspapers: Irrelevant.
Statements from Hawaiian officials, including the Republican governor, that they have seen the long-form: Irrelevant.
Yellow fever vaccinations (needed for trips to or from Kenya) never given to pregnant women or infants: Irrelevant.
A claim from a career criminal that he has the Kenyan birth certificate, albeit one with the country's official name wrong: Irrefutable evidence.
cherokeejoshua 2 years ago
$1.4 M spent hiding his birth certificate; irrelevant. Obama is JUST like Mark MacGuire. He has everything to hide so he ain't talking. So clear... yet brainwashed followers believe what they are told. Good little boys and girls; why think for yourself when Obama tells you what to think. Good luck to you.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
Except that a child born on a US Military Installation to a US officer IS considered to be a natural born citizen.
Face it - nobody gives a shit what you people think. You're even more of a fringe-element than the 9/11 goof movement. Give it up. Start taking your meds again and spend some time with your family - you'll feel much better, I promise.
c6gunner 2 years ago
No, you are wrong. "Natural Born" means NOT naturalized. Not just having parents. you are clearly brain washed. and you can't even reason English like plain English, "natural born". Wow, you are lost. But we all get the fact that CNN owns your opinion so we don't hold it against you.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
And I love the fact you all think we went to war for WMD and justice... and the heroin in Afghanistan? Just coincidence. We could stop the heroin, but we don't want to. We could defeat Iraq; we just don't want to. Wow, you just believe everything told to you on CNN. CNN- half the truth, all the time. It is you who need Prozac just to deal with the brainwashing Bush and his buddies need to stay rich and keep you poor..
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
You're a twit, and you'll die a lonely man, forgotten by most and missed by none. Turn your life around while you still have time. Good luck.
c6gunner 2 years ago
Ah, so easy for all to see when victory appears... the loser (you in this case) resorts to last ditch insults because he knows his logic is thwarted. Not that you had much logic to thwart, but proof is proof. Now if I were getting all angry and insulting you might have some proof of your victory. But I am not, and you do not. Game complete. bye now.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
I'm not insulting you.
c6gunner 2 years ago
Honestly just kill yourself. Let's pretend you're right about Obama not being a citizen. HE'S ALREADY TAKEN THE OATH. So according to your precious constitution he can't be removed from office. So what do you hope to accomplish?
badtown88 2 years ago
Orly Taitz is a frickin' nut.
loonmaniac 2 years ago
the wheels are coming off the birther bus.
not surprising, since their whole premise is based on lies
LLORT3 2 years ago
The logic of the birthers goes round and round, round and round.....
....cause they're a bunch of clowns.
ponyboy316 2 years ago
no, it starts with the US Constitution. And ends with the same. Obama spends your tax money hiding behind his Kenyan Roots. But you, being foolish, don't understand.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
No there will be a hearing in January. Just like McCain was born in Panama Canal Zone, Obama was born out of the US. Not in the US; but OUT of the US. He is a banker puppet fraud. But you are one of the farm animals just happy to eat and sleep and have no education to understand the Constitution. Zero.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
whatever you say, racist
LLORT3 2 years ago
Ah, intelligent come back. Don't have a high IQ? Just throw out the racist card and see if it sticks. You are see through.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
Yeah, you are right. Panama Canal Zone is a US State. Puerto Rico is too. You must have graduated Red Neck University and majored in US Geography where any territory can be called US. Man isn't there a preschool Youtube you should be reading? Or sesame street geography class you should be attending? Virgin Islands US State too? What wheels are on your bus???
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
shut up go burn a cross republikan
LLORT3 2 years ago
Dude, I voted for Obama. I have nothing against Obama until i found out he is a liar and fraud. Clinton was a liar too. He did not inhale?? He did not have sex?? He is a liar. Nothing wrong with inhaling pot or having sex. Everything wrong with lying to America. Obama is another liar. Nothing to do with politics.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
lol you're hopeless
i feel bad for ppl like you who call Obama a liar or Kenyan citizen with no proof whatsoever. it is because you're racist by nurture, nothing else.
don't reply to me faggot.
LLORT3 2 years ago
LLORT3, Look at the brightside. Orly Taitz does not have the discipline to win this case. These people who believe in her - I got a bridge to sell them that connects Brooklyn to Manhattan Island. If Orly can con them then i should have no problem doing the same.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
lol.
they wouldn't want the land though since there are jews there.
LLORT3 2 years ago
I' m sorry! I forgot about the demographics of Brooklyn and the Lower East Side. They would not want that area then. I will have to sell them Brighton Beach instead.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
heh good call.
LLORT3 2 years ago
I just LOVE simple minds like LLORT3 that try to show they are intelligent. They can't help but slurring and making others wonder why they post at all... Obama is not going to want a simple mind like you defending him. He's gonna be ashamed to have someone like you defending him. Whoops. You lost.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
shouldn't you be at a 9/11 truth rally? lol
LLORT3 2 years ago
You know you are right. I mean, there probably were WMD that Bush found. And Bush is not in the Oil business so I am sure Iraq was all about Freedom and Not oil. And I know Afghanistan has 75% of the worlds Heroin production but now that we occupy that place I am SURE they are burning the fields and cleaning up heroin. There is SO much truth in our government I wish I could be like you and believe it all. Do you have to take alot of Prozac to do that? Or is it Zanax? What keeps you asleep?
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
lolwut
so you admit you're a Truther?
lol good god
LLORT3 2 years ago
George W. Bush and his faher, George H. W. Bush, each owe much of their net worth to profits from oil company jobs where it's not clear what actual work they did.
densely 2 years ago
You see you don't know how to lose. So you say, "don't reply to me". How low is your IQ? Well, if you can manage, go to myspace page and see that Obama himself says he is 52. And then he says he is 48. He is confused. So are you. And anger and Meds are how you cope. Just tone it down. When you lose a debate: accept it.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
Fun Fact: the judge dismissed the case and warned Orly that if she came forward with an entirely theoretical case she'd be sanctioned for frivolous law suits.
And frankly, there is no evidence to support the claims put forth by the birther movement'; just a lot of supposition and theory.
gaddez 2 years ago
Well Obama can't get his story straight either. Go to his MYSPACE page, the official one where he accepts donations and volunteers. It lists him as 52 years old. 52? 48? A class action lawsuit should be filed against him for fraud and damages for accepting donations and volunteer hours even though he ran in fraud. You see if you can figure out his myspace page, I'm sure you're pissed off that you can't answer his myspace information. and people that cover for him get angry when the truth hits.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
oily tits
sfk187 2 years ago
to debalazo: Which individuals of the Jewish faith are you refering to? Or are your comments just more blanket attacks on anyone and everyone who follows a particular religion?
JuliaV50 2 years ago
You don't consider lying about being eligible for the presidency a high crime? Assuming he's not a natural born citizen (after all, we are hypothetical at this point).
Two apparent facts according to Obama himself:
#1 Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen
#2 Neither parent was prosecuting business in the U.S. (they were both students who actually lived in Kenya). Prosecuting business is the requirement for native born. If you're just "visiting" the kid ain't a U.S. citizen.
mdblack98 2 years ago
According to whom?
jemz84 2 years ago
I don't know why you're pushing this while Glenn Beck is still free after possiblly raping and murdering a girl.
Jazzycat47 2 years ago
thank you for posting this
OxAO 2 years ago 2
No standing to undo an election?
Ever heard of impeachment? At a minimum.
mdblack98 2 years ago 2
The grounds for impeachment are "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." Which one of these looks "We, the Congress of the United States, didn't pay attention when we certified the President's election"?
densely 2 years ago
densely, treason was committed by all the jew animals who catapulted the illegal alien into the WH. The obumanation didn't commit treason, he committed perjury, usurpation of powers, and became a subversive agent for a foreign master when he accepted to run and take the seat at the Senate. Presidency? He deserves his punishment directly from the Constitution, and WILL. There was NO inatention, there was collusion to commit a CRIME.
debalazo 2 years ago
jew animals?
i thought obama is a nazi. make up your mind, birthers/racist/conservatives (same thing)!
LLORT3 2 years ago
md, this is magnicide against the USA. These animals just KILLED DEAD the Presidency. To install an illegal alien and subversive agent, merits the harshest penalty by law, hanging to death, or shot before a military squad. You cannot impeach a NON citizen and NON president. The puppet is a subversive agent, co-conspirator with the jews, and only merits arrest, indictment, and exemplary punishment to set the record straigh for any future wannabe repeater.
debalazo 2 years ago
Someone who isn't qualified can be stopped:
When the candidate applies for a spot on a state ballot.
When the Electors cast their ballots.
When Congress certifies the ballots from the Electoral College.
Under the US Constitution no part of the government has standing to undo an election that has been confirmed by Congress.
Sooner or later a Federal judge is going to say this obvious stuff and tell the fruitcakes to go away and not come back. Soon, I hope.
densely 2 years ago
desnsely, where you get your laws from, Tel Aviv? The City? When 90% of criminal and traitors in Congress turn their faces away from a mega crime about to be committed, even, cover up all evidence or refuse to investigate before the facts, all these are as guilty as oBaama, and guilty as HELL. There was NO election, it was a SELECTION, and of the WORST piece of trash to visit the DC. It is coming. One judge's order will start the fateful demise of the ZOG and your breed in the USA.
debalazo 2 years ago
This is all in the US Constitution. You might read it some time; it's not all that complicated and it's not all that long.
densely 2 years ago
You are so wrong. It is called FRAUD. He knows how old he is and where he was born. So if he runs AS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, but he's not. Uh, that's called fraud. And if he lies under OATH? Since he took an Oath to Preserve and Protect the Constitution, which is there to protect the people. Well that's called Perjury. Clearly you have no clue. Fraud. Perjury. Do you even know on his official MYSPACE page he lists his age at 52?? Even he can't get his age right. What a bumble he is.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
How do you know all this?
Is the State of Hawaii a competent authority to maintain birth records or not? If not, how do we know whether ANYBODY is a natural-born citizen? How much do you remember of your own birth?
Did Obama somehow insert announcements of his birth into the archives of two Honolulu newspapers when he decided to run for office?
densely 2 years ago
Well I know about his Myspace page because I went there and he lists his age as 52. Granted, he didn't create the site but it is the official site, so it is bizarre. In terms of Hawaii they are maintaining records, but they cannot release without his consent and he will not release them. Even though it is common to release them for school entrance. Do i know for sure? No. Does anyone know? No. But he serves us as President; we deserve to know the truth.
MrYougotjohn 2 years ago
We deserve to know when he was born, where he was born, and who his parents were. Hawaii's Certificate of Live Birth gives the information that the State of Hawaii certifies for all births, which includes these vital data. Hawaii can give the same information for a child born in a hospital, born at its grandparents' home, or born in the back of a taxicab. They've decided to give out their certification on their own form rather than stamp something they're given by a hospital.
densely 2 years ago
Wrong
You're placing the burden of proof in the wrong place. The "Birther" movement must provide concrete proof that Obama was not born in the country. You can't just come up with conjecture and expect him to prove his citizenship in court. That's not the way things work.
mattc867 2 years ago
Exactly the point I have been trying to make. I guess they were asleep in that civics class.
danboone143 2 years ago
@mattc867 : The way things are "suppose" to work is that a person cannot BE or even RUN for the office of the president of the USA unless he is a natural-born citizen. It is not up to the American people to prove he isn't or wasn't anything the basic fact is he cannot be president unless he is a natural-born citizen. IS he? Since when did conjecture supplant the constitution? Why did he have ALLLLLLL his records, from all his educational endeavors sealed? Isn't that jusr a little suspicious 2u?
Evangelander 2 years ago
@Evangelander
"Since when did conjecture supplant the constitution?"
Umm, are you serious?
That's exactly my point. While I don't even find this remotely suspicious (and for the record his birth records are NOT sealed), the fact remains that something being "a little suspicious" is not grounds to mount a legal case. Birthers are demanding he prove his innocence (or in this case, nationality) and that just isn't the way things work. So says our constitution.
mattc867 2 years ago
@Evangelander Actually, you are incorrect. The Constitution does NOT restrict who may RUN FOR President. The Constitution only restricts who may SERVE AS President. The Constitution even addresses what would happen if someone who was not eligible to be President was elected President.
J12X 1 year ago
retard, who cares
LLORT3 2 years ago
wow, Dr. Taitz sure had a busy week, just coming off of a hearing in California on Tuesday in another eligibility case, where Obama did not get his motion to dismiss granted -- at least not yet, instead he got a trial date!
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago 2
i would give anything to videotape orly.i hope she comes to new york.
farpty89 2 years ago
great camera work and sound.
farpty89 2 years ago
Thanks!
JoePaull 2 years ago