it pisses me off that complaints are made against adverts like morrisons and they are rapped for being offesive/misleading but this can be shown??!!! WHY?
Marie Stopes supported eugenics and was an anti-Semite. Stop praising this wicked woman. She even disowned her own son because he married a woman who wore glasses, in Marie's eyes the woman wasn't perfect enough to breed.
Want an abortion ? Go get one ! Fuck the scum suckers who for some reason have determined they have somehow developed a form of 'higher morality' on the basis they can't differentiate between 'life' and 'cellular existence' - it's not murder if you're doing it to save your own life, we sometimes term that 'self-defence'.. =p
@sjrodovalho What about miscarriage and still born, you going to have them punished as well. What a woman chooses to do with her body is her choice, end of!
Women are women, not incubators, if someone doesn't want to be pregnant, they shouldn't ever be forced to be so.
if someone is 'late' and worried they see their doctor, not an abortion company whos services they have to pay for. the only possible benefit to advertising is that more people pay marie stopes for abortion, they don't care about women or they would tell them to go and see their doctor who is FREE and IMPARTIAL.
@willscomix But you got the point, didn't you? :) Reading previous comments I also must admit I'm a Catholic but for me being against abortion is not a religious but moral imperative.
One more thought: At the end of any medicine advert (even simpliest pain killers) you get a warning on how it may affect your health. But the above advert says nothing about health consequences for a woman attempting abortion. Abortion is not physically safe and it leaves a life-long scare on your mental health. If you considered abotion twice and still want it, then think twice again.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
ABORTION IS MURDER. If you abort an embryo you kill its potential to become a human being, repeat: ! ITS POTENTIAL !. You may not like it but it is really as simple as that! Wake up!
@Sykotix1 Your semen will not become your son in 9 months, you can make an experiment out of this, will you?. Your parents should have told more about how you came to this earth 13 years ago :P ;)
Cant agree.If you leave sperm by itself,it wont turn into a baby.If you leave an ovary by itself,it wont turn into a baby.If you leave an ovary fertilized by sperm by itself ,it WILL turn into a baby.Theres your diference.
It's a personal choice is abortion, if you don't like the idea of it then don't go on about it!! Of course I can imagine it's a very stressful and upsetting time for anyone but please, it's our own choice so shut up and get down off your soap boxes!
only from one woman who don't wanna talk with me and I don't know why? She change my charming person to trolling in YT...n I don't know what to do? do u know that person?
Sacrifice isn't the right word to use in this context. For Maries Stopes to sacrifice something, they have to give up something that belongs to them. I think we can agree that these foetuses certainly don't belong to them. To sacrifice is to give away something or make a sacrificial offering to a deity.
@IxoxIxox So let us be clear that you support the murder of the unborn through abortion and contraception. You are happy enough that groups such as British Pregnancy Advisory Service make a fat profit out of killing.BPAS are one of the leading 'for-profit' baby butchers in Britain
@CredoCatholicJournal Oh dear. Look, my opinion doesn't matter, nor does anyone else's. You are very much entitled to your view but please stop shoving it down people's throats.
This is what is creating all the controversy? How strange. It's a very well done advert, and simply stating that MSI is indeed there for young women. Can't see the problem at all with the advert airing.
Yes, mistakes can be made, but that's not exclusive to abortion. Mistakes happen in all kinds of surgery, but that doesn't mean we should stop surgery.
People have horrific car crashes, but that doesn't mean we should ban driving.
Driving is for many people essential but the same can't be said for abortion so they are incomparable... Also with abortion there is the intention to kill which doesn't exist with driving.
@Sykotix1 Interesting quote from journalist Peter Hitchens;
"I say that Marie Stopes International (which receives about £25 million a year from the NHS, much of it for killing unborn babies under contract) should be allowed to advertise its repellent services on TV.
"That each advertisement is followed by both of these: film of an actual abortion of a 24-week-old baby, and a brief documentary reminding viewers that Marie Stopes sent love poems to Adolf Hitler in August 1939, advocated compulsory sterilisation for the ‘unfit’, and cut her own son out of her will because he married a girl who wore glasses.
What sort of organisation would name itself after such a monstrous woman?"
Dr Marie Stopes wanted to break down taboos about sex and increase knowledge, pleasure and improved sexual and reproductive health. To suggest she would have been against a TV advert trying to raise awareness as to what options women have in this scenario is ludicrous.
Do you really think, had she been here today, she'd have been telling people they were killing babies? Theres a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion, which pro-lifers seem to utterly fail to grasp.
@Sykotix1 you need to do your research befor you *claim* things to be true...just makes you look a little bit on the ignorant side to post things BEFOR you know the truth of the matter does`nt it ? O_O
Btw do you think the ad is honest? I mean why do they say "late" instead of "pregnant" or "expecting a baby"? Do you think it might be an unsubtle way to denigrate being pregnant?
isn't it important for your side to know what they're fighting?
I'm not sure that it's an attempt to denigrate pregnancy. A late period is the first sign a woman would get that she might be pregnant, and then that's where the worrying starts. I think one of the points they were trying to make was to seek advice as early as possible, rather than ignoring the situation.
It might be an exciting time for people that planned the pregnancy, yes, but not for everyone.
Backing the abortion giant? You can try and paint me out as some kind of pro-abortion activist if you want, but that's not the case. I've put this video up for anyone that wants to see it. It's as simple as that.
@MrsTardbuster1 Seconded! It's the 21st century. Everyone is aware of these issues. Personally, I hadnt seen the ad until there now and its not as bad as the media hype made it out to be. It's after the watershed so only the target audience SHOULD see it. It contains no offensive images. Its a well done advert that simply urges people to seek advice; its not telling people what to do!
People need to be more open minded. Even though im pro-life, I still think this advert is a good step forward.
@Sykotix1 those anti choicers will resort to just about any argument to push their crapaganda on ppl. Each time you mention a name, they'll try to link it to Hitler. Very silly. Hitler was vegeterian does that make all vegeterians "nazis"?
I once encountered 152 beautiful little girls at a home in Calcutta..
They had all been rescued from local abortion mills after being delivered alive following attempted late term abortion using labour inducing drugs such as prostaglandin.
The ONLY abortion provider I saw extensively advertising at that time (it was the late 1980's) on placards and bill posters was one "Marie Stopes International".
Incidentally sex selective abortions were illegal in India and remain so today...
Marie Stopes international does offer abortions, but not in the UK. In the UK they only offer support for people considering abortions or those who have had one.
I believe late term abortions should only be used when there is a high risk of the mother dying, if carried to full term.
Marie Stopes...non profit/charitable institution, benefits all the way around in tax breaks, donations and the fees they charge their customers. Charities are supposed to help people, not kill their babies. Also: why did you fail to address my other statement: that Marie Slopes presents themselves as the solution to a problem? They endeavor to instill the notion that pregnancy and motherhood are problems to be solved. You remained silent on that.
@AbortionKillsBabies Thank you. Well said on your part, and thanks for posting the tax and profit information about Marie Stopes, "100% non-profit and registered charity."
They don't "charge their customers", as I've already explained. Their "customers" as you put it, don't pay a penny.
The reason I didn't answer it is because it's more of an assertion than an argument. I would say to some people, pregnancy IS a problem. What about when the mother has health problems, or an uncontrollable drug or alcohol addicition? What if she was raped? What if she was a 14 year old girl?
In situations like this, the pregnancy would be a serious problem.
@Sykotix1 Here you are..YT technical difficulties. Yes, their customers, as I put it, because they are customers.
Pregnancy a problem? Is it the child's fault if the mother is drug-dependent? Is it the child's fault if the mother is raped? If she is a 14 year old girl, should the child be killed? All those scenarios are grave, and tragic, however..not a justifiable reason to kill the innocent child. Children are never a "problem" to be solved. They don't ruin adults' lives. Adults ruin theirs.
How diabolically clever of MarieStopes, trying to mask themselves as sympathetic help, when in reality, a school of pirahnas. Insidious advertising. They are peddling abortion. Worried? Scared? Overwhelmed by your burdens? Come to us, all ye who are weary and heavily burdened, and we will relieve you of your "problem," all for a fee, of course. Right. They have a voracious appetite for money.
Actually, they're a non-profit organisation that give advice and counselling for people who have had, or are considering abortion, as well as providing contraceptives.
Abortion in the UK is covered by the National Health Service.
@Sykotix1If you believe they are a non-profit organization, then I have a very nice bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. How very noble of Marie Stopes to offer counseling and support to scared girls and women. What sort of counseling do they offer?Cementing the fears and uncertainties of pregnant women by convincing them they can solve their "dilemma" through abortion. They are selling the notion that pregnancy and motherhood are problems to be solved, and that Marie Stopes is their savior.
Maybe you should do some research before you say things like that. Marie Stopes is 100% non-profit, and a registered charity. You can check their finances on the Charity Commission website if you want, it's all there.
@Sykotix1 Marie Stopes is registered as non-profit and a charity, but as a benefit for themselves, and they benefit all the way around, in tax breaks, donations and the fees they charge their customers: the vulnerable girls and women that they lure to their sites. Charities are supposed to exist to help people, not kill their children. If Marie Stopes really cares about pregnant women, then they will help them financially and emotionally, rather than kill their babies.
I don't think that it's that bad, but you're right in that promoting the use of contraception is the most effective way to avoid unwanted pregnancies.
The company themselves do advise on other methods of birth control, but that wasn't the message of this advert.
Tame? Oh yeah? Thin edge of the wedge more likely - they'll get more bold and more direct over time.
They did exactly the same thing with the abortion laws - originally, abortions to be performed only where 'the mental health of the mother' was threatened. Now it's almost to the point of abortion on demand.
Finally they'll be advertising D.I.Y. Home Euthanasia kits.
Money-grubbing ratbags who'd kill their own grandmothers for profit.
This company doesn't provide abortions. They just provide support for people considering them. Abortions are covered by the national health service in the UK, so no profit is made.
Thanks for uploading, i haven't seen it until now. Typical response from the daily mail. I dont see anything controversial in the ad at all. The need for abortion will always be there, and it's time that all women have access to help and support when they need it without being vilified.
Exactly. It was a pretty unoffensive ad, but the Daily Mail will get offended by ANYTHING these days. It's just doom-laden, fear-mongering, right wing propaganda.
@Calmdowndear Couldn't agree more
BennoRob95 1 month ago
it pisses me off that complaints are made against adverts like morrisons and they are rapped for being offesive/misleading but this can be shown??!!! WHY?
julezindahouse 3 months ago
@julezindahouse
Morrisons? What advert's that?
Sykotix1 3 months ago
Marie Stopes supported eugenics and was an anti-Semite. Stop praising this wicked woman. She even disowned her own son because he married a woman who wore glasses, in Marie's eyes the woman wasn't perfect enough to breed.
qwertasdcfghjklmo24z 7 months ago 2
@qwertasdcfghjklmo24z
Where did you read that?
RedRoosterRoad 6 months ago
@RedRoosterRoad Pick up any history book and you shall discover. It is very well known I am suprised you have to ask.
qwertasdcfghjklmo24z 6 months ago
Want an abortion ? Go get one ! Fuck the scum suckers who for some reason have determined they have somehow developed a form of 'higher morality' on the basis they can't differentiate between 'life' and 'cellular existence' - it's not murder if you're doing it to save your own life, we sometimes term that 'self-defence'.. =p
Calmdowndear 9 months ago
I love abortions. More , less of an overpopulated planet.
bosasosolja 9 months ago
@bosasosolja Actually.. no...
TheMichelleCap 7 months ago
Fuck you Prolifers OH I mean fuck you Lowlifers.
bosasosolja 9 months ago
@TheJJHman
Well not really.
Intentional killing of a sentient being is murder.
Sykotix1 10 months ago
first abortion is murder,second every women that have DONE abortion should be STERILISED
sjrodovalho 11 months ago
@sjrodovalho What about miscarriage and still born, you going to have them punished as well. What a woman chooses to do with her body is her choice, end of!
Women are women, not incubators, if someone doesn't want to be pregnant, they shouldn't ever be forced to be so.
MissMoonWillow 8 months ago
Wow this is the worst ad to represent abortion I've ever seen.
jshjamaar 1 year ago
Abortion is not a woman's right to choose. Choosing her method of contraception is. Abortion, except on medical grounds, is wrong.
I am agnostic, before all the religious comments start.
womanism1 1 year ago
if someone is 'late' and worried they see their doctor, not an abortion company whos services they have to pay for. the only possible benefit to advertising is that more people pay marie stopes for abortion, they don't care about women or they would tell them to go and see their doctor who is FREE and IMPARTIAL.
TeamStephenson 1 year ago
that advert is just soooo wrng what evil we have become this nation fetus or embryo wat ver its still a living thing
tchazama 1 year ago
@chalger ha, "came in"
willscomix 1 year ago
@willscomix But you got the point, didn't you? :) Reading previous comments I also must admit I'm a Catholic but for me being against abortion is not a religious but moral imperative.
chalger 1 year ago
One more thought: At the end of any medicine advert (even simpliest pain killers) you get a warning on how it may affect your health. But the above advert says nothing about health consequences for a woman attempting abortion. Abortion is not physically safe and it leaves a life-long scare on your mental health. If you considered abotion twice and still want it, then think twice again.
chalger 1 year ago
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ABORTION IS MURDER. If you abort an embryo you kill its potential to become a human being, repeat: ! ITS POTENTIAL !. You may not like it but it is really as simple as that! Wake up!
chalger 1 year ago
@chalger
Does that make jacking off mass murder?
Sykotix1 1 year ago 15
@Sykotix1 Your semen will not become your son in 9 months, you can make an experiment out of this, will you?. Your parents should have told more about how you came to this earth 13 years ago :P ;)
chalger 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 nice way of putting it lol
Timcookie321 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 no because jacking off doesnt produce an embryo without an egg.. so get it right!
geico1212 1 year ago
@geico1212
The point I was trying to make was that the "potential for life" argument is totally arbitrary, and therefore invalid.
Sperm also has the potential for human life, but we don't consider masturbation murder.
Sykotix1 1 year ago 6
@Sykotix1
Cant agree.If you leave sperm by itself,it wont turn into a baby.If you leave an ovary by itself,it wont turn into a baby.If you leave an ovary fertilized by sperm by itself ,it WILL turn into a baby.Theres your diference.
bawoman 3 months ago
@chalger Thank you!
TheMichelleCap 7 months ago
Its all there to keep the poulation down.
N.W.O.
TheKiemaster 1 year ago
Maria Stops Abortion
CredoCatholicJournal 1 year ago
It's a personal choice is abortion, if you don't like the idea of it then don't go on about it!! Of course I can imagine it's a very stressful and upsetting time for anyone but please, it's our own choice so shut up and get down off your soap boxes!
joannemii 1 year ago
Abortion is the right and the choice of the pregnant mother. No one has the right to interfere or judge, pro life = anti choice.
Anti abortionists are facist, self righteous, sanctimonius religious nutters.
roac7777 1 year ago
I needed to see this for an English Assignment. Thanks for uploading.
RachPls 1 year ago
@RachPls
Glad it's helped :)
Sykotix1 1 year ago
This should be banned! :/ Awful.
Paulina86 1 year ago
@Paulina86
It's demorcracy...but of course in Poland u don't know what it it! Stop living as commie u commie...(in that place must be some rude word)
Konabis 1 year ago
@Konabis U won't abortion legal cause U wanna have a lot of unprotected sex all the time! That's all U're thinking of! :D
Paulina86 1 year ago
@Paulina86
only from one woman who don't wanna talk with me and I don't know why? She change my charming person to trolling in YT...n I don't know what to do? do u know that person?
Konabis 1 year ago
@Konabis Marie Stopes has no right to sacrifice a life.
CredoCatholicJournal 1 year ago
@CredoCatholicJournal
Well they don't sacrifice. That's a religious practice!
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@CredoCatholicJournal Marie Stopes profit on dead babies so they do sacrifice a life.
CredoCatholicJournal 1 year ago
@CredoCatholicJournal
Sacrifice isn't the right word to use in this context. For Maries Stopes to sacrifice something, they have to give up something that belongs to them. I think we can agree that these foetuses certainly don't belong to them. To sacrifice is to give away something or make a sacrificial offering to a deity.
Sacrifice and kill are not synonymous.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@CredoCatholicJournal Save the fact they're a charity.
IxoxIxox 1 year ago
@IxoxIxox So let us be clear that you support the murder of the unborn through abortion and contraception. You are happy enough that groups such as British Pregnancy Advisory Service make a fat profit out of killing.BPAS are one of the leading 'for-profit' baby butchers in Britain
CredoCatholicJournal 1 year ago
@CredoCatholicJournal Oh dear. Look, my opinion doesn't matter, nor does anyone else's. You are very much entitled to your view but please stop shoving it down people's throats.
IxoxIxox 1 year ago 2
charity of murderers
dingodiladi 1 year ago
Very sad music for a very sad subject. Killing babies is very sad. How sad. How sad that we are advertising this on TV.
dialyt55 1 year ago
Congrats UK!!!
MrsTardbuster1 1 year ago
This is what is creating all the controversy? How strange. It's a very well done advert, and simply stating that MSI is indeed there for young women. Can't see the problem at all with the advert airing.
xSaz1986x 1 year ago
@xSaz1986x
That's what I thought. I didn't expect such a reaction from the pro-lifers!
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1
It's quite funny how they just shut up the minute you respond with good arguments.
wedbetter99 1 year ago
A girl of 15 died five days after an abortion because of a blunder at her clinic, an inquest heard yesterday.
Alesha Thomas was supposed to have been given antibiotics to combat infection after the procedure.
But she never received the medication and was struck down by a heart attack caused by a bacterial toxin.
cont....
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
Yes, mistakes can be made, but that's not exclusive to abortion. Mistakes happen in all kinds of surgery, but that doesn't mean we should stop surgery.
People have horrific car crashes, but that doesn't mean we should ban driving.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1
"doesn't mean we should ban driving~"
Driving is for many people essential but the same can't be said for abortion so they are incomparable... Also with abortion there is the intention to kill which doesn't exist with driving.
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
Marie Stopes {UK} list of fees for the killing of babies in the womb.
Profits are used to provide abortions for for people overseas including Aborigines in Australia.
Medical abortion (abortion pill) up to 9 weeks £440
Surgical abortion
Up to 12 weeks, non anaesthetic £510
Up to 14 weeks conscious sedation £585
Up to 14 weeks general anaesthetic £640
Over 14-19 weeks conscious sedation £740
Over 14-19 weeks general anaesthetic £785
Over 19-24 weeks general anaesthetic £1720
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
I wasn't aware that Marie Stopes performed private abortions in the UK, but it seems you're right.
I still don't feel the advert was as bad as the Daily Mail made it out to be.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 Interesting quote from journalist Peter Hitchens;
"I say that Marie Stopes International (which receives about £25 million a year from the NHS, much of it for killing unborn babies under contract) should be allowed to advertise its repellent services on TV.
But on one condition.
cont...
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@Sykotix
cont...
"That each advertisement is followed by both of these: film of an actual abortion of a 24-week-old baby, and a brief documentary reminding viewers that Marie Stopes sent love poems to Adolf Hitler in August 1939, advocated compulsory sterilisation for the ‘unfit’, and cut her own son out of her will because he married a girl who wore glasses.
What sort of organisation would name itself after such a monstrous woman?"
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
Wow - very eye opening postings as regards Marie Stopes.
Quite incredible that an abortion organization should name itself after her.
Merlin2Stage2Speed 1 year ago
@Merlin2Stage2Speed
Well I'm not sure Margaret Sanger,founder of Planned Parenthood.was any less despicable....
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@Merlin2Stage2Speed
Dr Marie Stopes wanted to break down taboos about sex and increase knowledge, pleasure and improved sexual and reproductive health. To suggest she would have been against a TV advert trying to raise awareness as to what options women have in this scenario is ludicrous.
Do you really think, had she been here today, she'd have been telling people they were killing babies? Theres a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion, which pro-lifers seem to utterly fail to grasp.
SheenaMB85 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 you need to do your research befor you *claim* things to be true...just makes you look a little bit on the ignorant side to post things BEFOR you know the truth of the matter does`nt it ? O_O
kirstiedale3 1 year ago
@kirstiedale3
I did do some research, though evidently missed some vital information.
Everyone makes mistakes.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1
Incidentally why are you so keen to publicise the abortion giant Marie Stopes?
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
Do you not think that it's important that people see this advert?
Even if it is to criticise it, people need to see this. I think we can agree that it's an important issue.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 Why do you think it is important?
Btw do you think the ad is honest? I mean why do they say "late" instead of "pregnant" or "expecting a baby"? Do you think it might be an unsubtle way to denigrate being pregnant?
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
isn't it important for your side to know what they're fighting?
I'm not sure that it's an attempt to denigrate pregnancy. A late period is the first sign a woman would get that she might be pregnant, and then that's where the worrying starts. I think one of the points they were trying to make was to seek advice as early as possible, rather than ignoring the situation.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 "isn't it important for your side to know.."
So are you saying that you only uploaded this shameful ad for the benefit of prolife campaigners?
"worrying starts"
Why "worrying"? For many it is an extremely exciting time..or is this your attempt to back the abortion giant?
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
No. I uploaded this for whoever wants to see it.
It might be an exciting time for people that planned the pregnancy, yes, but not for everyone.
Backing the abortion giant? You can try and paint me out as some kind of pro-abortion activist if you want, but that's not the case. I've put this video up for anyone that wants to see it. It's as simple as that.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 Thanks for posting this!
MrsTardbuster1 1 year ago
@MrsTardbuster1 Seconded! It's the 21st century. Everyone is aware of these issues. Personally, I hadnt seen the ad until there now and its not as bad as the media hype made it out to be. It's after the watershed so only the target audience SHOULD see it. It contains no offensive images. Its a well done advert that simply urges people to seek advice; its not telling people what to do!
People need to be more open minded. Even though im pro-life, I still think this advert is a good step forward.
TBHGTFO 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 those anti choicers will resort to just about any argument to push their crapaganda on ppl. Each time you mention a name, they'll try to link it to Hitler. Very silly. Hitler was vegeterian does that make all vegeterians "nazis"?
MrsTardbuster1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 Its a BIG mistake to make though isnt it O_O
kirstiedale3 1 year ago
I once encountered 152 beautiful little girls at a home in Calcutta..
They had all been rescued from local abortion mills after being delivered alive following attempted late term abortion using labour inducing drugs such as prostaglandin.
The ONLY abortion provider I saw extensively advertising at that time (it was the late 1980's) on placards and bill posters was one "Marie Stopes International".
Incidentally sex selective abortions were illegal in India and remain so today...
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
Marie Stopes international does offer abortions, but not in the UK. In the UK they only offer support for people considering abortions or those who have had one.
I believe late term abortions should only be used when there is a high risk of the mother dying, if carried to full term.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1
You are quite wrong.
Marie Stopes is the BIGGEST privately run abortionist in the UK. ..and probably 2nd in the world after Planned Parenthood of the USA.
Here is a list of their current fees which are most often paid by TAXPAYERS as many of the abortions they carry out are referrals from the NHS.
On their website they say that "financial surplus" from the UK is used for aborting the children of poor people overseas..
Pity ii isn't used to HELP the children of poor people to LIVE!
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies
Fair enough, I guess I was wrong about that.
Thanks for your comments.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
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kirstiedale3 1 year ago
cont..
Marie Stopes International was strongly criticised by the coroner for procedural failings. He warned it could face legal action.
Due to inefficient practices at the clinic it was not uncommon for patients to leave without being given their prescribed medication/
Alesha was a 'healthy and fit adolescent' who confided in her mother Rose Bent that she was pregnant.
After discussing her options, they chose an abortion at the Marie Stopes International clinic in Leeds.
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
Marie Stopes...non profit/charitable institution, benefits all the way around in tax breaks, donations and the fees they charge their customers. Charities are supposed to help people, not kill their babies. Also: why did you fail to address my other statement: that Marie Slopes presents themselves as the solution to a problem? They endeavor to instill the notion that pregnancy and motherhood are problems to be solved. You remained silent on that.
jazz0685 1 year ago
@jazz0685
Well said jazz.
AbortionKillsBabies 1 year ago
@AbortionKillsBabies Thank you. Well said on your part, and thanks for posting the tax and profit information about Marie Stopes, "100% non-profit and registered charity."
jazz0685 1 year ago
@jazz0685
They don't "charge their customers", as I've already explained. Their "customers" as you put it, don't pay a penny.
The reason I didn't answer it is because it's more of an assertion than an argument. I would say to some people, pregnancy IS a problem. What about when the mother has health problems, or an uncontrollable drug or alcohol addicition? What if she was raped? What if she was a 14 year old girl?
In situations like this, the pregnancy would be a serious problem.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 Here you are..YT technical difficulties. Yes, their customers, as I put it, because they are customers.
Pregnancy a problem? Is it the child's fault if the mother is drug-dependent? Is it the child's fault if the mother is raped? If she is a 14 year old girl, should the child be killed? All those scenarios are grave, and tragic, however..not a justifiable reason to kill the innocent child. Children are never a "problem" to be solved. They don't ruin adults' lives. Adults ruin theirs.
jazz0685 1 year ago
shoud play Bye Bye Baby
ismcb4sc 1 year ago
shoud play buy buy baby
ismcb4sc 1 year ago
Could anyone aborte MarieStopes?
Cosinus62 1 year ago
@Cosinus62
Lol.
She's been dead for 52 years, so probably not!
Sykotix1 1 year ago
How diabolically clever of MarieStopes, trying to mask themselves as sympathetic help, when in reality, a school of pirahnas. Insidious advertising. They are peddling abortion. Worried? Scared? Overwhelmed by your burdens? Come to us, all ye who are weary and heavily burdened, and we will relieve you of your "problem," all for a fee, of course. Right. They have a voracious appetite for money.
jazz0685 1 year ago
@jazz0685
Actually, they're a non-profit organisation that give advice and counselling for people who have had, or are considering abortion, as well as providing contraceptives.
Abortion in the UK is covered by the National Health Service.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1If you believe they are a non-profit organization, then I have a very nice bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. How very noble of Marie Stopes to offer counseling and support to scared girls and women. What sort of counseling do they offer?Cementing the fears and uncertainties of pregnant women by convincing them they can solve their "dilemma" through abortion. They are selling the notion that pregnancy and motherhood are problems to be solved, and that Marie Stopes is their savior.
jazz0685 1 year ago
@jazz0685
Maybe you should do some research before you say things like that. Marie Stopes is 100% non-profit, and a registered charity. You can check their finances on the Charity Commission website if you want, it's all there.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@Sykotix1 Marie Stopes is registered as non-profit and a charity, but as a benefit for themselves, and they benefit all the way around, in tax breaks, donations and the fees they charge their customers: the vulnerable girls and women that they lure to their sites. Charities are supposed to exist to help people, not kill their children. If Marie Stopes really cares about pregnant women, then they will help them financially and emotionally, rather than kill their babies.
jazz0685 1 year ago
O_O...This is not right ..at all..This is only advertising ABORTION ONLY ..not how to avoid pregnancy to begin with.
this is promoting abortion,not safe and reliable birth control;
Disgraceful.
kirstiedale3 1 year ago
@kirstiedale3
I don't think that it's that bad, but you're right in that promoting the use of contraception is the most effective way to avoid unwanted pregnancies.
The company themselves do advise on other methods of birth control, but that wasn't the message of this advert.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
Tame? Oh yeah? Thin edge of the wedge more likely - they'll get more bold and more direct over time.
They did exactly the same thing with the abortion laws - originally, abortions to be performed only where 'the mental health of the mother' was threatened. Now it's almost to the point of abortion on demand.
Finally they'll be advertising D.I.Y. Home Euthanasia kits.
Money-grubbing ratbags who'd kill their own grandmothers for profit.
Merlin2Stage2Speed 1 year ago
@Merlin2Stage2Speed
This company doesn't provide abortions. They just provide support for people considering them. Abortions are covered by the national health service in the UK, so no profit is made.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
I still think abortion is wrong but there's not much harm in an advert I don't think.
roonaldinio1 1 year ago
@roonaldinio1
Exactly.
And this advert only laid it out as an option. Of course it should only be a last resort.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
Looks fairly tame to me. I expected..well, not sure exactly what I expected.
Thanks for sharing, Syko.
debbieomi 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading, i haven't seen it until now. Typical response from the daily mail. I dont see anything controversial in the ad at all. The need for abortion will always be there, and it's time that all women have access to help and support when they need it without being vilified.
musicgeniusno1 1 year ago
@musicgeniusno1
Exactly. It was a pretty unoffensive ad, but the Daily Mail will get offended by ANYTHING these days. It's just doom-laden, fear-mongering, right wing propaganda.
Just like Fox News...
Sykotix1 1 year ago
@musicgeniusno1 I agree with you. It's not offensive at all; just informative.
I think they should also start to advertise for contraceptive coils. It's much better that pills because you can't forget it!
Nikita531985 1 year ago
@Nikita531985
True. They're not quite as reliable though.
Contraceptive implants are very good. Then you don't need to worry about getting pregnant for up to 5 years!
Sykotix1 1 year ago
Not strictly true. Richard Coughlan was the first UK abortion advert.
boswell255 1 year ago
@boswell255
LOL!!
Nephilimfree looks like he survived one.
Sykotix1 1 year ago