The guy in the viper is banging gears, metal on metal and the guy in the gtr is touching a little padle on the back of the steering wheel to shift. The GTR pretty much drives it self. Anybody in the world can drive it fast.
you caint compare a 2010 or 12 against a 1999.. if anything you should compare the r34 against this or the 2011 viper against the 2011 Gtr... and i have owned imports all my life but you have to give the Viper its respect.. it is BOSS
gtr's are pretty ugly imo, having said that what an amazing machine they hook up and run like no other. but from a roll a twin turbo viper would fair better against another tt car. nice races though and the viper seemed to hold its own pretty well all things considering.
@summeronthechain Because I can vouch for him. If I were to be driving and see a Veyron, Ferrari 458, Lambo Reventon, and a Viper, that mean fascia on the viper would draw my attention the most. Viper is the meanest looking car on the road and the best sounding V10 of all time.
I used to own a 2003 Viper GTS and i got A LOT of looks (people pointing, turning to get a look, etc.). Vipers really are quite rare to see - at least in my area.
@summeronthechain Doesn't matter what year of viper. And yes, you moron, they made a GTS for the '03 model. I would know as I owned it, moron.
And yes, Veyron is a pig-ugly car. Very ugly, and has no design queues on it that would draw my attention to it. Not knowing prices or car brand names, if i saw those three cars on the road, I would look at the viper...as well as listen to a true engine noise.
@iwasadeum Viper is the most useless car there is considering its price and very limited technology compared to nowaday exotics it's very far behind but it does have looks some extent but nowhere near a veyron for examble or a GTO or a CCR.
@hdidane00 It's price? I don't know any other $100,000 cars (save of course the fabulous Corvette) that can annhiliate the best Ferrari has to offer - or the best anybody has to offer.
Veyron is very ugly. Most people believe this to be true. It has no unique designs that would make me go "wow, what a good looking car." It looks like it was all about aerodynamics.
Sorry, but on the track, a Viper/Vette would still put even mighty Koenigsegg to shame. See Nurburgring lap times.
@hdidane00 You can get a used Viper GTS 1998 - 2000 in the upper 30k's here in the U.S. Add another 15-20k in mods (including turbos, tune, etc.) and you've got a world beater. It's not designed for commuting to the grocery store and work; it's built for funnnnn!!!
@hdidane00 It's called a classic/american muscle for a reason. You don't need anything fancy, just a fast ass car to kick some damn ass, but of course it has to look nice still.
I can agree actually... the viper especially the SRT and pre generation RT are always eye catchers! They speak to the inner guy in us all, telling us "FUCK YEA".
Man a 525 awhp gtr would rip that vipers ass worse than this if all the viper has is exhaust. The 520hp gtr runs 11.2@122 and 525awhp is more like 600hp thats in the 10's thru the 1/4mile.
Quit lying! The point to my posts are to point out your lying & manipulation of reality not to prove that I'm better. I could go all day. Here's something I didn't read the net. That GTR ran 11.6 or 11.7@116-117. So either he doesn't know how to drive, something's wrong w/the car or the dynos are inflated.
A proper spoiler actually reduces drag under acceleration and increases drag under braking. His was supposedly a functional wing. I also find it funny that the GTR won all the high speed rolls but lost the low speed rolls & according to you the wing is now the difference? Who's living in reality now?
@Langtry613 well with a gtr i can hold multiple female "passangers" in the back if you know what I mean ;) ;). and all while going faster than a Viper
you`re a fucking dumb whore... if you think a car with 420rwhp will EVER beat a 530awhp car then you must leave this planet.. stock vs stock @ 1/4mile withe the same tires the dodge look fucking silly...
Of course 530 whp on a dyno jet equates to (roughly) 466 rwhp on a Dyno Dynamics. So a 466 whp car racing a 420 whp car that is lighter, better geared, and with a lower drag coefficient from speeds which AWD has no advantage it is very easy to see the less powerful car winning.
@summeronthechain still a load of BS!!!! ACR does 1/4mile in about 12.5sec and a stock GTR with 480bhp is low 11 sec 1/4 mile.. and a GTR with 480bhp had only 404AWHP when we tested it on our dyno shop =))) and Motortrend tested it to 406awhp stock..go tell some farytail to some others ppl.. i guess ignortant american will believe you.. but you don`t have me fooled until i see the dyno this is A LOAD OF CRAP...LOL
@rottepung666 A 12.5 in an ACR is an extremely average time for a stock cars. Most decent drivers get very low 12s, and a handful have ran high 11s stock.
A low 11 for a stock GTR is a very good time, most of them run high 11s.
Looks at the cars unbiasedly or don't look at them at all.
Of course, the only reason a stock GTR would me marginally quicker in a stock 1/4 mile is the launch, where it has an advantage. From a roll, as seen here, it does not have that advantage.
@summeronthechain nha it`s not.. if you have semi slicks and the track had ALOT with VHT..maybe you get under 12sec i`ve seen one vid.. but thats pro driver on rwd cars..any way you are very wrong when you talk about roll on races.. a GTR is bad news for high torque cars in a roll race they do VERY good they had the 60-130mph record for a long time they`re still on second and third place.. a GTR don`t need torque because it`s so fast in gearing that manual will get destroyed..
@summeronthechain man you gotta look up some vid dud..this car is known for beating high performance car over and over again.. a jap show did race a Corvette ZR1 with 640bhp and 830NM torque and 1540kg vs the new GTR 530bhp 600Nm and 1750kg so the Corvette had the roll race inn hand first race the ZR1 and GTR both entered the straight in 0.8mile in 255.56kph next race the Corvette Zr1 won by 5 kph on the GTR thats just plane sick of the GTR heavy ass car and WHAY lower PTWR but still right there
Get your facts straight. Road&Track, Car&Drive all list standard Viper GTS 1/4 mile times around 12.2sec. ACR would do a 12.0 and thats pretty damn good for a car over a decade old.
@phantom5573 it came in 2008 LOL.. and get your facts straight: i never said a 12 sec 1/4 is slow for a 600bhp rwd car.. only said that a STOCK 480bhp Nissan GTR will do low 11sec 1/4 mile so a stock GTR will piss on this in a roll and 1/4mile.. and yes the viper is most certainly geared for more top speed but NO ONE cares about that anyway.. and this so called vid here is showing a so called stock viper vs a so called tuned GTR. and the GTR lose LOLOLOLOL..
@rottepung666 I will help clear up the confusion. Both cars to my knowledge were done on the same dyno in shoot-out mode, so the numbers are directly comparable. The reason why the GTR lost 2 of the races was because the GTR started in the wrong gear. I've done it myself against a much slower car & the result was the same as in this video. The drag coefficient for a ACR Viper is .39 vs .27 for the GTR-Adv GTR. HP/WT-adv GTR. Shorter gearing is actually better for roll races=GTR ftw
@96stealth hahaha in other words what i have said the WHOLE TIME=)) the GTR is probably the best of all car on a roll race if it had the same PTWR as the other car.. and of course with that transmission FAST as hell gear change and they top out @ 200mph meaning shorter gearing.. a GTR has the same acceleration that a bike have so in other words it fucks up pretty much ANYTHING!!!!!! but this tard don`t get that...
@96stealth hehehe i couldn`t said it any better if i tried.. But you sometime hope that they will get it or lets say that you, sometime hope that they have seen more in life then whats RIGHT there in front of them.... if you catch my drift!!!!
@summeronthechain So what? I thought DB's dyno is pretty much suppose to match Maps dyno, hence the adjusted number? So now your going to tell me that the Viper is a dyno dynamics unadjusted #. (its not, I was there) Which would mean on a dynojet would be 480-490 which is impossible for a stock (cough) exhaust only Viper. The drag co for a 96 gts viper is .35. The drag co for a 99 acr viper is .39. Even if it was .35 its still less aerodynamic by a significant amount.
@96stealth No, you missed the point of the post entirely. Also, I think you and I both know the effects a big aftermarket wing like the one on the GTR can have on drag, similar to the one you used to have on your car.
Anyway, your research/calculations/theories show one thing, and reality, as seen in the video, shows something different.
Laughing at all of the dip shits who think they know what they're talking about when they defend the shitty GT-R. There is an eleven year difference between these cars. This Viper is over half way to getting classic plates, atleast here anyway. How about you dumbshits compare apples to apples?
@Bduke1000 yeah true but this viper was made from 1996-2002, but still they got their ass kicked in 0:25 and the spoiler wasnt the original, which makes a big difference because the gtr relies on it allot
@Ryou4real39 The Nissan doesn't rely on it for straight line acceleration. Aerodynamics help keep it planted through the corners and remain stable at extremely high speeds.
@summeronthechain which it does when its stock racing a heavily modded car. no way in hell was that gtr tuned cause a tuned one would kill this pos viper
@crasyb3ar hey retard, you realize the race isn't even fair. they gtr is putting out more horsepower and is 11 years newer than this viper. throw that gtr at a 2010 acr and the viper will use it as a chewtoy
no way does a 99 gts have 437whp with just exhaust, theyre only rated at 460 stock to the crank, and exhaust without a tune or anything else doesnt do shit...
Of course you realize that there is a decent amount of variance between what each dyno reads at the wheels.
And yes, replacing the stock exhaust which removes some semi-restrictive mufflers/resonators/catalytic converters on an 8 liter engine can free up a decent amount of HP.
@summeronthechain of course, sometimes that can happen, but youre not going to gain nearly 30whp from exhaust alone...either way, both nice cars. my dad used to have a couple gts's, one was a venom 650r :). im just bitter that there's never any stock vs stock races between a gtr and an 08 or later viper lol...or a twin turbo viper vs a gtr! guess i gotta hurry up and get my own! lol
@ristika89 Well, the operator for the Dyno estimated that it can vary as much as 11% from dyno to dyno. At 437 rwhp that would be nearly 50 rwhp +/-, If I had a GTS that didn't put down at least 400 RWHP I would be very concerned.
My ACR was just an example of a perfect condition car with a very healthy engine.
Stice the stock exhaust is pretty restrictive on a Viper V10, its easy to see gains of 25+ hp at the wheels with an exhaust system. Paired up with a good set of headers with a 5 to 1 merge collector can see gains for 45+ hp at the wheels. A gen2 Viper will usually dyno around 415 to 423 at the wheels in stock form and with a good driver, run low 12's and high 11's in the quarter mile.
@ViperSRTnACR In fairness a 300hp mustang from the 90s (4.6L) can gain 20whp from exhaust alone, so 25-30+ on an 8.0L V10 wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Yeah, that sound about right for a gain with the 4.6's. One of the best deals is to throw a 2.8L Roe supercharger on the Viper with a VEC tuner and 70mm throttle bodies for more air flow and at 10 psi fully tuned, the Viper will put out 750+ hp to the wheels and be an easy low 10 sec car with a good driver. The "Roe equipped" record (along with a 150 shot) is still held by a guy nicknamed "1Tony1" with a best of 9.28@156 in the 1/4 in his Viper GTS.
@ristika89 The vast majority of cars do not need to be re-tuned for an exhaust. Remember, the Viper is dead simple. 2 valves per cylinder. 1 camshaft. Pushrods. split throttle bodies. The fanciest thing on that engine is that it has electronic fuel injection. Also, the stock Viper used restrictive mufflers and piping for NVH reasons. And that was before OEM mandrel bent exhaust tubing.
Everytime the Viper was reeling in the GTR the asian guy puts on the brakes. GTR is better off the line but give the Viper some good sticky meats or race from a roll then the Viper kicks the GTRs ass.
no shit, a turbo charged car will most likely win. turbo the Viper and it will fly to the fucken moon. gtr is for faggots that know they cant drive and want to just mash the gas and go. Viper&Corvette FTW
@ftwfckyea ya Ur right if u would turbo a viper or Corvette they would fly to the moon but it would also raise the price so much higher due to all the internal work it would take for the engine to handle the extra air flow and by time that is done and labor u would be looking at prices way higher than they are already and defeating the point of having an american car vs import at the same price. so guess what Americans cant make shit for cars and should stick to trucks
@compaqpunch10 Americans cant make shit for cars but yet we dominate the Gt races in Europe and are in the top in the Nürburgring lap times. but what do u know, I drive a Z06, go drive ur moms minvan
@ftwfckyea at least u agree Americans cant make shit for cars but yet u drive one. hahaha *cough* sorry i started chocking on the irony. if u consider 500+ awhp 3kgt a mini van then yes ill go drive my mini van
@compaqpunch10 i see ur still wet behind ur ears lil teenager. hahah u have a fast car,please, u still have ur mommy make u pancakes in the morning. and i see u live in the USA and u talk shit about the cars ur country makes. go live somewhere else, i bet u wont cos ur just a lil kid that looks at racing viseos on youtube to talk shit based on what u see
@ftwfckyea Your right I'm a teenager but close, i don't live in the USA, I'm actually stationed in south Korea and then Germany after that, but yet I'm the ignorant one cause i have been to both sides of the world and your not cause u know all working a 9-5 dead end job for rest of your life with a Z06 that u prob just spent your whole life savings on so u can have friends but didn't work out to well for u and no upgrades pushing less than 400 to your wheels
@compaqpunch10 stationed??? oh so u new u wouldnt amount to anything so u went the easy way out. good for u. i see ur jealous cos u dont drive shit. now if u dont mind im off to cruise in my Z06
@ftwfckyea Easy way out? bitch we r over here not seeing our love ones for a year, getting paid less than teachers, and sacrafising our lifes, and we took the easy way out instead of going to college working a 9-5 job being able to see our families every night not worrying about being shipped to the dessert to be shot at. and for your information I'm doing a job that pays 6 figures but i didn't want to take the easy way and go to college and party and bitch about finals when i didn't go to class
@compaqpunch10 so ur risking ur life for a frozen meal,ur a dumbass. i wonder what ur doin right now,prob alone jacking off. dont get all defensive and upset cos u started talking like ur real big shit
Looks kinda like a dead heat here....sure the AWD on the Nissan just positively leaps off the line.....& that lead seems to hold all the way. Start with a road-speed where the gear-splits keep the Nissan out of the boost & the Nissan loses. The Nissan has the peaky HP & the AWD & computer power. The Viper does all that with Big-Ass tires, & lots of displacement. Two complete opposites, with identical results.
Srt10 viper owner here. At 490 rwhp I raced a 510awhp gtr. On paper I should have won. The but his awd hooked at 60 mph while my tires spun a lil bit. I result was I got beat by half a car length. At 3300 pounds after 80 pounds weight reduction vrs his 3800 pounds I should have won... Don't underestimate the gtr my domestic loving brothers. It's bad ass
@noshabibis And you are an idiot. do you know that the Corvette already has paddle shifters and electronics offered? The only difference is that the GT-R actually executes it right.
@noshabibis What are you talking about. Corvette enthusiast love all of the features that GM offers. 90% of Corvette owners own Automatic Corvettes. For C5 and C6 Corvettes Z06's only make up about 7% of all of the corvettes on the road.
yeah both great cars but my favourite is the Nissan, i think its more refined then its competitor even though the Viper is a beast i think the gtr is better slightly
@kageryu311 Ring times: 09' Viper ACR: 7:22 09' GTR: 7:26 '12 GTR: 7:24. Go ahead, bring on the excuses. Or do you want me to re-type it in spanish so you can understand the times better?
@ellisfreedman Hey fucktard. I'm talking about the ACR in this vid. Its a 98 and is far slower than the GT-R around the twisties. Yes the 09 ACR is faster but it makes 600hp and is much lighter.
@kageryu311 Viper = Man's car. The GTR is an unentertaining, unreliable, easy to drive, automatic piece of shit. My grandmother could run a decent lap time in a GTR with its stupid flappy paddles and electronic gizmos. The Viper is for someone who wants a challenge. It doesn't even have a tcs button. I am completely unimpressed by the GTR and would take a 370z over one if I had a choice.
@ellisfreedman First of all the GT-R isn't an automatic. Its a dual clutch manual. Secondly the GT-R is a fun and outstanding car. Thirdly it is very reliable and has very few issues. Vipers are for guys who are looking to compensate for the lack of what they have in their pants. Nice cars but not as fun or accomodating as a Corvette or GT-R.
And how can you say you would take a 370z over a GT-R when you haven't even driven one?
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19Julz76 9 hours ago
The GTR needs more stickers.
SolidCopy1 1 week ago
gimme the gtr anyday
johnnye263 2 weeks ago
The guy in the viper is banging gears, metal on metal and the guy in the gtr is touching a little padle on the back of the steering wheel to shift. The GTR pretty much drives it self. Anybody in the world can drive it fast.
dgk990 3 weeks ago
@dgk990 Also got 4 seats!
MrDaveButcher 1 week ago
you caint compare a 2010 or 12 against a 1999.. if anything you should compare the r34 against this or the 2011 viper against the 2011 Gtr... and i have owned imports all my life but you have to give the Viper its respect.. it is BOSS
MacTelar007 1 month ago
gtr's are pretty ugly imo, having said that what an amazing machine they hook up and run like no other. but from a roll a twin turbo viper would fair better against another tt car. nice races though and the viper seemed to hold its own pretty well all things considering.
moomarkel 1 month ago
There is nothing like seeing a Viper on the street.
MDethfan 1 month ago
I love imports, but I hate stickers!!!! Why the fuck are you going to ruin the car by putting stickers on it!
tintin1244 1 month ago
i own a viper gts and it gets the most attention from any street car out there by far, especially in united states.
chicagopd50 1 month ago
@chicagopd50 How would you know that without owning every other street car?
summeronthechain 1 month ago 3
@summeronthechain Because I can vouch for him. If I were to be driving and see a Veyron, Ferrari 458, Lambo Reventon, and a Viper, that mean fascia on the viper would draw my attention the most. Viper is the meanest looking car on the road and the best sounding V10 of all time.
I used to own a 2003 Viper GTS and i got A LOT of looks (people pointing, turning to get a look, etc.). Vipers really are quite rare to see - at least in my area.
iwasadeum 1 month ago
@iwasadeum haha. So a Veyron and Reventon are driving down the street but nobody notices them because everyone is looking at a 2003 Dodge Viper GTS?
They did not make a GTS in 03. An astute Viper owner should know that.
summeronthechain 1 month ago 6
@summeronthechain LOL. I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THAT THEIR WAS NO SUCH CAR IN '03!
Langtry613 1 month ago
@summeronthechain Doesn't matter what year of viper. And yes, you moron, they made a GTS for the '03 model. I would know as I owned it, moron.
And yes, Veyron is a pig-ugly car. Very ugly, and has no design queues on it that would draw my attention to it. Not knowing prices or car brand names, if i saw those three cars on the road, I would look at the viper...as well as listen to a true engine noise.
iwasadeum 1 month ago
@iwasadeum UMM, NO SUCH THING AS A 03 GTS!! "FAIL"
Langtry613 1 month ago
@iwasadeum Viper is the most useless car there is considering its price and very limited technology compared to nowaday exotics it's very far behind but it does have looks some extent but nowhere near a veyron for examble or a GTO or a CCR.
hdidane00 1 month ago
@hdidane00 It's price? I don't know any other $100,000 cars (save of course the fabulous Corvette) that can annhiliate the best Ferrari has to offer - or the best anybody has to offer.
Veyron is very ugly. Most people believe this to be true. It has no unique designs that would make me go "wow, what a good looking car." It looks like it was all about aerodynamics.
Sorry, but on the track, a Viper/Vette would still put even mighty Koenigsegg to shame. See Nurburgring lap times.
iwasadeum 1 month ago
@hdidane00 You can get a used Viper GTS 1998 - 2000 in the upper 30k's here in the U.S. Add another 15-20k in mods (including turbos, tune, etc.) and you've got a world beater. It's not designed for commuting to the grocery store and work; it's built for funnnnn!!!
TheSmoonge 3 weeks ago
@hdidane00 It's called a classic/american muscle for a reason. You don't need anything fancy, just a fast ass car to kick some damn ass, but of course it has to look nice still.
AIVIP3DxX 3 weeks ago
@iwasadeum thats a dumb comment. thats all i have to say
nickybism 20 hours ago
@chicagopd50
I can agree actually... the viper especially the SRT and pre generation RT are always eye catchers! They speak to the inner guy in us all, telling us "FUCK YEA".
AjViShus 1 day ago
@chicagopd50 actually if i saw a 99' viper and a newish gtr id probably look at the gtr first boy
nickybism 20 hours ago
I wonder if the new viper would fair better
TheWTFsauce 1 month ago
@TheWTFsauce I would imagine so considering its an identical car with another 150 hp.
summeronthechain 1 month ago
Go get a cam + tune do another vid of you STOMPING that GTR! Lol
opioid82 1 month ago
Nice GTS! And nice runs! Id love to own one in my garage nxt to my ws6. :)
TorqueMachine 1 month ago
Nissan is good only if you have a vagina
cryteeek 1 month ago
@cryteeek LMFAO
BigD1767 1 month ago
Man a 525 awhp gtr would rip that vipers ass worse than this if all the viper has is exhaust. The 520hp gtr runs 11.2@122 and 525awhp is more like 600hp thats in the 10's thru the 1/4mile.
jabba12000 2 months ago
Quit lying! The point to my posts are to point out your lying & manipulation of reality not to prove that I'm better. I could go all day. Here's something I didn't read the net. That GTR ran 11.6 or 11.7@116-117. So either he doesn't know how to drive, something's wrong w/the car or the dynos are inflated.
96stealth 2 months ago
@96stealth Lying? You mean like telling people your Stealths are reliable? Or like telling people the odometer is accurate in a car you sell?
Please as I said asked nicely, go away. Leave us alone.
summeronthechain 2 months ago
@96stealth its the gtr bro, and the gtr driver just needs to put the gas pedal down and have it on automatic.
Bravo12RX 1 month ago
A proper spoiler actually reduces drag under acceleration and increases drag under braking. His was supposedly a functional wing. I also find it funny that the GTR won all the high speed rolls but lost the low speed rolls & according to you the wing is now the difference? Who's living in reality now?
96stealth 2 months ago
@96stealth Once again, you missed the point of the post.
You have no stake in this video except to prove how much better you are than other people from what you read on the internet.
Please live your own life, grow some courage, and stop following us around the internet.
If you have something to say to me, please do it in person, instead of hiding your brilliance behind a keyboard.
summeronthechain 2 months ago
The GTR is awesome of the line and will beat most anything aside from a GT2RS.
However, compare it to a 4th Generation Viper - NOT a 10 year old one and the Viper will beat it on the track and in any roll-on.
phantom5573 2 months ago
@phantom5573 yea sure brainiac whaeva works for ya.. Ignorance is bliss "brother"
rottepung666 2 months ago
@rottepung666
Read my statement asshole before writing your garbage retard.
I colleagues own these cars and the Viper is faster.
I have driven them both and love them for different reasons.
Viper has over 600HP. Who's ignorant????
phantom5573 2 months ago
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@phantom5573 yea sure brainiac whaeva works for ya.. Ignorance is bliss "brother"
rottepung666 2 months ago
I'D STILL MUCH RATHER THE VIPER.. LOOKS MORE EXOTIC, GETS MORE ATTENTION AND IN THE LONG RUN GEEEEET'S MORE PUSSY! :)
Langtry613 2 months ago 18
@Langtry613 im sorry but are you over compensating*? plus the vipeo only holds 1 passanger :)
blacksoilder10 1 month ago
@blacksoilder10 ONE PASSENGER IS ALL YOU NEED DUMBASS.!
Langtry613 1 month ago
@Langtry613 well with a gtr i can hold multiple female "passangers" in the back if you know what I mean ;) ;). and all while going faster than a Viper
blacksoilder10 1 month ago
@Langtry613 Long live to the attention whore.
RCC4487 1 month ago
@RCC4487 8-)
Langtry613 1 month ago
@Langtry613 I have no respect for a man who sees such an awesome car, awesome piece of enginering as a pussy magnet..just my opinion.
kllaus8d 1 month ago
@kllaus8d SHITTY FOR YOU.!
Langtry613 1 month ago
@Langtry613 If it survives the long run, I doubt it can match the reliability of the GT-R.
12389h 1 month ago
you guys are idiots, the stickers add atleast 500hp to the car DUHHHHH
arnold4life476 2 months ago
you`re a fucking dumb whore... if you think a car with 420rwhp will EVER beat a 530awhp car then you must leave this planet.. stock vs stock @ 1/4mile withe the same tires the dodge look fucking silly...
rottepung666 2 months ago
@rottepung666
Of course 530 whp on a dyno jet equates to (roughly) 466 rwhp on a Dyno Dynamics. So a 466 whp car racing a 420 whp car that is lighter, better geared, and with a lower drag coefficient from speeds which AWD has no advantage it is very easy to see the less powerful car winning.
summeronthechain 2 months ago
@summeronthechain still a load of BS!!!! ACR does 1/4mile in about 12.5sec and a stock GTR with 480bhp is low 11 sec 1/4 mile.. and a GTR with 480bhp had only 404AWHP when we tested it on our dyno shop =))) and Motortrend tested it to 406awhp stock..go tell some farytail to some others ppl.. i guess ignortant american will believe you.. but you don`t have me fooled until i see the dyno this is A LOAD OF CRAP...LOL
rottepung666 2 months ago
@rottepung666 A 12.5 in an ACR is an extremely average time for a stock cars. Most decent drivers get very low 12s, and a handful have ran high 11s stock.
A low 11 for a stock GTR is a very good time, most of them run high 11s.
Looks at the cars unbiasedly or don't look at them at all.
Of course, the only reason a stock GTR would me marginally quicker in a stock 1/4 mile is the launch, where it has an advantage. From a roll, as seen here, it does not have that advantage.
summeronthechain 2 months ago
@summeronthechain nha it`s not.. if you have semi slicks and the track had ALOT with VHT..maybe you get under 12sec i`ve seen one vid.. but thats pro driver on rwd cars..any way you are very wrong when you talk about roll on races.. a GTR is bad news for high torque cars in a roll race they do VERY good they had the 60-130mph record for a long time they`re still on second and third place.. a GTR don`t need torque because it`s so fast in gearing that manual will get destroyed..
rottepung666 2 months ago
@summeronthechain man you gotta look up some vid dud..this car is known for beating high performance car over and over again.. a jap show did race a Corvette ZR1 with 640bhp and 830NM torque and 1540kg vs the new GTR 530bhp 600Nm and 1750kg so the Corvette had the roll race inn hand first race the ZR1 and GTR both entered the straight in 0.8mile in 255.56kph next race the Corvette Zr1 won by 5 kph on the GTR thats just plane sick of the GTR heavy ass car and WHAY lower PTWR but still right there
rottepung666 2 months ago
@summeronthechain
Very true.
And I would add that this Viper is a decade old and can still run with the best of them.
Some simple bolt-ons would even this up.
Vipers are very impressive!!!!!
phantom5573 2 months ago
@rottepung666 A STOCK RT/10 WILL RUN 11'S. ACR WILL RUN MUCH BETTER THEN 12.5.. PROBABLY HIGH 10'S!!
Langtry613 2 months ago
@rottepung666
Get your facts straight. Road&Track, Car&Drive all list standard Viper GTS 1/4 mile times around 12.2sec. ACR would do a 12.0 and thats pretty damn good for a car over a decade old.
phantom5573 2 months ago
@phantom5573 it came in 2008 LOL.. and get your facts straight: i never said a 12 sec 1/4 is slow for a 600bhp rwd car.. only said that a STOCK 480bhp Nissan GTR will do low 11sec 1/4 mile so a stock GTR will piss on this in a roll and 1/4mile.. and yes the viper is most certainly geared for more top speed but NO ONE cares about that anyway.. and this so called vid here is showing a so called stock viper vs a so called tuned GTR. and the GTR lose LOLOLOLOL..
rottepung666 2 months ago
@phantom5573 and if you ever question GTR roll on ability, visit dragtimes com and see what it can do...good luck with that..
rottepung666 2 months ago
@rottepung666 I will help clear up the confusion. Both cars to my knowledge were done on the same dyno in shoot-out mode, so the numbers are directly comparable. The reason why the GTR lost 2 of the races was because the GTR started in the wrong gear. I've done it myself against a much slower car & the result was the same as in this video. The drag coefficient for a ACR Viper is .39 vs .27 for the GTR-Adv GTR. HP/WT-adv GTR. Shorter gearing is actually better for roll races=GTR ftw
96stealth 2 months ago
@96stealth hahaha in other words what i have said the WHOLE TIME=)) the GTR is probably the best of all car on a roll race if it had the same PTWR as the other car.. and of course with that transmission FAST as hell gear change and they top out @ 200mph meaning shorter gearing.. a GTR has the same acceleration that a bike have so in other words it fucks up pretty much ANYTHING!!!!!! but this tard don`t get that...
rottepung666 2 months ago
@rottepung666 That would be correct, except that he does get it. He just won't admit to it.
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@96stealth hehehe i couldn`t said it any better if i tried.. But you sometime hope that they will get it or lets say that you, sometime hope that they have seen more in life then whats RIGHT there in front of them.... if you catch my drift!!!!
rottepung666 2 months ago
@96stealth Nope. Your knowledge of the situation is limited. The Viper was dynoed on a Dyno Dynamics, and the GTR was dynoed on MAPs Dyno-jet.
The drag Coefficient of a GTS ACR is .35, not .37.
You also have no idea of what gear the GTR was in.
summeronthechain 2 months ago
@summeronthechain So what? I thought DB's dyno is pretty much suppose to match Maps dyno, hence the adjusted number? So now your going to tell me that the Viper is a dyno dynamics unadjusted #. (its not, I was there) Which would mean on a dynojet would be 480-490 which is impossible for a stock (cough) exhaust only Viper. The drag co for a 96 gts viper is .35. The drag co for a 99 acr viper is .39. Even if it was .35 its still less aerodynamic by a significant amount.
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@96stealth No, you missed the point of the post entirely. Also, I think you and I both know the effects a big aftermarket wing like the one on the GTR can have on drag, similar to the one you used to have on your car.
Anyway, your research/calculations/theories show one thing, and reality, as seen in the video, shows something different.
Please go troll/stalk someone else or get a life.
summeronthechain 2 months ago
haah you guys got smoked at 0:25 the gtr has fast acceleration if u tune it with a good drivetrain and suspension so its understandable
Ryou4real39 3 months ago
2 of my favourite cars, the GT-R is simply amazing tho. WANT HAZ NOW
Rethgore 3 months ago
Laughing at all of the dip shits who think they know what they're talking about when they defend the shitty GT-R. There is an eleven year difference between these cars. This Viper is over half way to getting classic plates, atleast here anyway. How about you dumbshits compare apples to apples?
Bduke1000 3 months ago
@Bduke1000 yeah true but this viper was made from 1996-2002, but still they got their ass kicked in 0:25 and the spoiler wasnt the original, which makes a big difference because the gtr relies on it allot
Ryou4real39 3 months ago
@Ryou4real39 The Nissan doesn't rely on it for straight line acceleration. Aerodynamics help keep it planted through the corners and remain stable at extremely high speeds.
summeronthechain 3 months ago
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@summeronthechain which it does when its stock racing a heavily modded car. no way in hell was that gtr tuned cause a tuned one would kill this pos viper
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altimgamr 3 months ago
@crasyb3ar except when the Viper puts down better 1/4 mile and nurburgring lap times. Like now.
Milehighsnake98 3 months ago
Here we go again... 2010 against a 1999?
M107SASR 3 months ago 21
@M107SASR 100% right a 2010 ACR would kick out that gtr
palourdo 2 months ago
@palourdo but a 2012 alpha would murdalize any acr viper
blacksoilder10 1 month ago
@crasyb3ar except when it gets smoked buy a ZR1 and ACR
TJDeadkid 3 months ago
@crasyb3ar hey retard, you realize the race isn't even fair. they gtr is putting out more horsepower and is 11 years newer than this viper. throw that gtr at a 2010 acr and the viper will use it as a chewtoy
rydrag 3 months ago
Id still rather have the viper!
stone314687 3 months ago
no way does a 99 gts have 437whp with just exhaust, theyre only rated at 460 stock to the crank, and exhaust without a tune or anything else doesnt do shit...
ristika89 3 months ago
@ristika89
Of course you realize that there is a decent amount of variance between what each dyno reads at the wheels.
And yes, replacing the stock exhaust which removes some semi-restrictive mufflers/resonators/catalytic converters on an 8 liter engine can free up a decent amount of HP.
summeronthechain 3 months ago
@summeronthechain of course, sometimes that can happen, but youre not going to gain nearly 30whp from exhaust alone...either way, both nice cars. my dad used to have a couple gts's, one was a venom 650r :). im just bitter that there's never any stock vs stock races between a gtr and an 08 or later viper lol...or a twin turbo viper vs a gtr! guess i gotta hurry up and get my own! lol
ristika89 3 months ago
@ristika89 Well, the operator for the Dyno estimated that it can vary as much as 11% from dyno to dyno. At 437 rwhp that would be nearly 50 rwhp +/-, If I had a GTS that didn't put down at least 400 RWHP I would be very concerned.
My ACR was just an example of a perfect condition car with a very healthy engine.
summeronthechain 3 months ago
@ristika89
Stice the stock exhaust is pretty restrictive on a Viper V10, its easy to see gains of 25+ hp at the wheels with an exhaust system. Paired up with a good set of headers with a 5 to 1 merge collector can see gains for 45+ hp at the wheels. A gen2 Viper will usually dyno around 415 to 423 at the wheels in stock form and with a good driver, run low 12's and high 11's in the quarter mile.
ViperSRTnACR 3 months ago
@ViperSRTnACR In fairness a 300hp mustang from the 90s (4.6L) can gain 20whp from exhaust alone, so 25-30+ on an 8.0L V10 wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Milehighsnake98 3 months ago
@Milehighsnake98
Yeah, that sound about right for a gain with the 4.6's. One of the best deals is to throw a 2.8L Roe supercharger on the Viper with a VEC tuner and 70mm throttle bodies for more air flow and at 10 psi fully tuned, the Viper will put out 750+ hp to the wheels and be an easy low 10 sec car with a good driver. The "Roe equipped" record (along with a 150 shot) is still held by a guy nicknamed "1Tony1" with a best of 9.28@156 in the 1/4 in his Viper GTS.
ViperSRTnACR 3 months ago
@ristika89 The vast majority of cars do not need to be re-tuned for an exhaust. Remember, the Viper is dead simple. 2 valves per cylinder. 1 camshaft. Pushrods. split throttle bodies. The fanciest thing on that engine is that it has electronic fuel injection. Also, the stock Viper used restrictive mufflers and piping for NVH reasons. And that was before OEM mandrel bent exhaust tubing.
Milehighsnake98 3 months ago
GT-R FTW
GoONx19xRTz 3 months ago
Everytime the Viper was reeling in the GTR the asian guy puts on the brakes. GTR is better off the line but give the Viper some good sticky meats or race from a roll then the Viper kicks the GTRs ass.
SuperKing1320 3 months ago
@crasyb3ar Thats one of the smart comments I have seen on youtube. LOL it just lost
mkuroglu 3 months ago
That can't be a stock GT-R, never heard a gtr turbo scream that much
SkySavior 4 months ago
no shit, a turbo charged car will most likely win. turbo the Viper and it will fly to the fucken moon. gtr is for faggots that know they cant drive and want to just mash the gas and go. Viper&Corvette FTW
ftwfckyea 4 months ago
@ftwfckyea ya Ur right if u would turbo a viper or Corvette they would fly to the moon but it would also raise the price so much higher due to all the internal work it would take for the engine to handle the extra air flow and by time that is done and labor u would be looking at prices way higher than they are already and defeating the point of having an american car vs import at the same price. so guess what Americans cant make shit for cars and should stick to trucks
compaqpunch10 4 months ago
@compaqpunch10 Americans cant make shit for cars but yet we dominate the Gt races in Europe and are in the top in the Nürburgring lap times. but what do u know, I drive a Z06, go drive ur moms minvan
ftwfckyea 4 months ago
@ftwfckyea at least u agree Americans cant make shit for cars but yet u drive one. hahaha *cough* sorry i started chocking on the irony. if u consider 500+ awhp 3kgt a mini van then yes ill go drive my mini van
compaqpunch10 4 months ago
@compaqpunch10 i see ur still wet behind ur ears lil teenager. hahah u have a fast car,please, u still have ur mommy make u pancakes in the morning. and i see u live in the USA and u talk shit about the cars ur country makes. go live somewhere else, i bet u wont cos ur just a lil kid that looks at racing viseos on youtube to talk shit based on what u see
ftwfckyea 4 months ago
@ftwfckyea Your right I'm a teenager but close, i don't live in the USA, I'm actually stationed in south Korea and then Germany after that, but yet I'm the ignorant one cause i have been to both sides of the world and your not cause u know all working a 9-5 dead end job for rest of your life with a Z06 that u prob just spent your whole life savings on so u can have friends but didn't work out to well for u and no upgrades pushing less than 400 to your wheels
compaqpunch10 4 months ago
@compaqpunch10 stationed??? oh so u new u wouldnt amount to anything so u went the easy way out. good for u. i see ur jealous cos u dont drive shit. now if u dont mind im off to cruise in my Z06
ftwfckyea 4 months ago
@ftwfckyea Easy way out? bitch we r over here not seeing our love ones for a year, getting paid less than teachers, and sacrafising our lifes, and we took the easy way out instead of going to college working a 9-5 job being able to see our families every night not worrying about being shipped to the dessert to be shot at. and for your information I'm doing a job that pays 6 figures but i didn't want to take the easy way and go to college and party and bitch about finals when i didn't go to class
compaqpunch10 4 months ago
@compaqpunch10 so ur risking ur life for a frozen meal,ur a dumbass. i wonder what ur doin right now,prob alone jacking off. dont get all defensive and upset cos u started talking like ur real big shit
ftwfckyea 4 months ago
@compaqpunch10 well go risk ur precious life for a MRE...
ftwfckyea 4 months ago
@crasyb3ar its not a skyline anymore, but i like all gtr's but though the launch control is kinda a bit cheating, but still best car
brivera98 4 months ago
imports are gay. they only lead to problems. look at what happened to Toyota...
MetsMania15 4 months ago
@MetsMania15 u do realize Toyotas are made in american also
compaqpunch10 4 months ago
@compaqpunch10 but they aren't all american now, are they?
MetsMania15 4 months ago
@MetsMania15 no but over half of them sold in the us are made in the us
compaqpunch10 4 months ago
@compaqpunch10 idc for me its all american or nothing
MetsMania15 4 months ago
I think we can all agree that if we had the money we'd take either one of these cars instead of watching them on our computers.
jacobdlux 4 months ago
peace, bitch.. GTR
spookypunky 4 months ago
i can so imagine the asian guy playing doodle jump while driving
hanyh2 4 months ago
FUCK DODGE!
hanyh2 4 months ago
love to see a 2012 gtr vs 2010 viper srt-10 acr....would be interesting.
flauretta 4 months ago
Looks kinda like a dead heat here....sure the AWD on the Nissan just positively leaps off the line.....& that lead seems to hold all the way. Start with a road-speed where the gear-splits keep the Nissan out of the boost & the Nissan loses. The Nissan has the peaky HP & the AWD & computer power. The Viper does all that with Big-Ass tires, & lots of displacement. Two complete opposites, with identical results.
RichardEllisxyz 5 months ago
@RichardEllisxyz There is no speed where the GTR is out of boost...that's what a close-ratio 6 speed is for.
ambientflier 4 months ago
man love the 35s ive only a tuned 33 gtst but u never no in 50 years lol
TheBigtony1912 5 months ago
The viper couldn't even catch up to that GT-R... get owned son!
leong162 5 months ago
@leong162 I think you need to read the description and then you might understand why the GTR was a bit faster. Reading is such a wonderful thing.
thybigballs 5 months ago
@thybigballs Because that's just what the uploader thinks >>
leong162 5 months ago
Why was the spoiler replaced?
Nissan spent millions of dollars designing every little inch of the car for optimal airflow.
prisonbreak7760 5 months ago 9
@prisonbreak7760
Because Nissan's engineers designed the car to be a compromise based on what a wide variety of people might want from the car.
Some buyers have different priorities, and therefore change the car.
summeronthechain 5 months ago
@prisonbreak7760
look at him :D he's a japanese ;-)
big spoiler
big engine
small penis
like the US guyz ;D
L1KEONE 4 months ago
@L1KEONE
You are from Switzerland. Your country has no car industry what so ever.
prisonbreak7760 4 months ago
@prisonbreak7760
Maybe that piece gives off greater downforce as well as air flow.....and looks a lot better IMO on a tuned GTR.
TKO52286 3 months ago
i think the wing actually looks pretty sick on the GTR, whts ugly is those fender flares painted black
cb7pwn 5 months ago
half the size engine wins
R34GTRR35 5 months ago
@R34GTRR35 Yet another guy who can't read the video description. The outcome here is hardly a surprise.
thybigballs 5 months ago
GTR = Money well spent. don't by american crap
nazarsharak 5 months ago
@nazarsharak amercian crap? lmao
jp198780 5 months ago
Srt10 viper owner here. At 490 rwhp I raced a 510awhp gtr. On paper I should have won. The but his awd hooked at 60 mph while my tires spun a lil bit. I result was I got beat by half a car length. At 3300 pounds after 80 pounds weight reduction vrs his 3800 pounds I should have won... Don't underestimate the gtr my domestic loving brothers. It's bad ass
KILLEMALLstreetFILMS 5 months ago
v10 vs v6 = gtr dusting your ass bitch
07350zhr 5 months ago
@07350zhr man you talk alot of shit lol.
jp198780 5 months ago
@jp198780 thanks lol
07350zhr 5 months ago
F*ck the GTR
SSMATT08 5 months ago
thats a stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid wing. sweet car though
TheGallardoman 6 months ago 4
of course there is an anime lookin chap driving the gtr...
BiteDoctor 6 months ago
The new 2011 gtr's rape all american cars with acceleration and handling, no wonder its got the fastest time on the nurburgring :P
halfhappy117 6 months ago
Lol " objects in mirror are closer then they appear". Very good shot :)
StanceDude 6 months ago
I dont even care much for vipers but Id take a viper over a shitty ass GTR any day of the week.
burritomaker69 7 months ago
Ill still take the Viper
RussianAmericanArms 7 months ago
@tranceboyification your user name is pretty damn gay. GTFOUTTA HERE
noshabibis 7 months ago
kinda hard to match a supercharged v10 up against a v6 double turbo
Terreebad 7 months ago
@Terreebad
The Viper isnt supercharged. It is an 8.0 NA engine.
summeronthechain 7 months ago
@Terreebad I was told otherwise :I
Terreebad 7 months ago
@Terreebad You were told wrong. It is a common upgrade, but they never came that way from the factory.
summeronthechain 7 months ago
tthat GTR is sexyy. what a beautiful machine
PorscheGT2turbo 8 months ago
LOL GAY GT-R with AWD, Paddle Shifters and electronics.
noshabibis 8 months ago
@noshabibis I agree, totally gay.
summeronthechain 8 months ago
@noshabibis GAY VIPER , rwd V10 8.1L , its still a f*cking chrysler .
ACCORDDEBROUSSE 7 months ago
@noshabibis And you are an idiot. do you know that the Corvette already has paddle shifters and electronics offered? The only difference is that the GT-R actually executes it right.
kageryu311 7 months ago
@kageryu311 R U and IDIOT? Do you know Corvette enthusiast dont even bother having that option for their Corvette. GT-R = Pussy Car
noshabibis 7 months ago
@noshabibis What are you talking about. Corvette enthusiast love all of the features that GM offers. 90% of Corvette owners own Automatic Corvettes. For C5 and C6 Corvettes Z06's only make up about 7% of all of the corvettes on the road.
kageryu311 7 months ago
@kageryu311 STFU already.
noshabibis 7 months ago
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kageryu311 7 months ago
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@noshabibis Also learn how to spell and punctuate properly before you ask someone if they are an idiot. It makes you look like a bigger idiot.
kageryu311 7 months ago
yeah both great cars but my favourite is the Nissan, i think its more refined then its competitor even though the Viper is a beast i think the gtr is better slightly
LAXIEBABY123 8 months ago
poor gtr.
joedaddy305 8 months ago
viper atw
SouljaTrav 8 months ago
And an ACR is slower than a stock Viper because of all the downforce it generates.
ellisfreedman 9 months ago
@ellisfreedman downforce is good
SouljaTrav 8 months ago
The Viper will eat the silly nissan for dinner in the corners.
ellisfreedman 9 months ago
@ellisfreedman No it won't
kageryu311 7 months ago
@kageryu311 Ring times: 09' Viper ACR: 7:22 09' GTR: 7:26 '12 GTR: 7:24. Go ahead, bring on the excuses. Or do you want me to re-type it in spanish so you can understand the times better?
ellisfreedman 7 months ago
@ellisfreedman Hey fucktard. I'm talking about the ACR in this vid. Its a 98 and is far slower than the GT-R around the twisties. Yes the 09 ACR is faster but it makes 600hp and is much lighter.
Haters gonna hate.
kageryu311 7 months ago
@kageryu311 Viper > GTR. Want me to re-type it in Chinese?
ellisfreedman 7 months ago
@ellisfreedman GT-R > Viper. Vipers are clown shoe looking cars that have nothing redeeming in them other than the engine.
STFU.
kageryu311 7 months ago
@kageryu311 Viper = Man's car. The GTR is an unentertaining, unreliable, easy to drive, automatic piece of shit. My grandmother could run a decent lap time in a GTR with its stupid flappy paddles and electronic gizmos. The Viper is for someone who wants a challenge. It doesn't even have a tcs button. I am completely unimpressed by the GTR and would take a 370z over one if I had a choice.
ellisfreedman 7 months ago
@ellisfreedman First of all the GT-R isn't an automatic. Its a dual clutch manual. Secondly the GT-R is a fun and outstanding car. Thirdly it is very reliable and has very few issues. Vipers are for guys who are looking to compensate for the lack of what they have in their pants. Nice cars but not as fun or accomodating as a Corvette or GT-R.
And how can you say you would take a 370z over a GT-R when you haven't even driven one?
kageryu311 7 months ago