Sydney CityRail Miscellany 3 - Museum, Town Hall, Wynyard.

[designline21]

Wow 4 car T-sets , i must admit the livery now has made the Tangara look a bit worse

[CMCHRYSLERVALIANT]

Is there any red rattlers left for special tours? I would love to rid on one of them again

[citytransportinfo]

@CMCHRYSLERVALIANT I think that one train has been preserved, maybe a good place to ask is the Australian Railway Historical Society.

Youtube dont allow links in these comments, but a quick web search will point you to their website.

Hope this helps

Simon

[CMCHRYSLERVALIANT]

@citytransportinfo Hi Simon, thanks for your reply, I will check it out

cheers

Dean

[KG84C]

Meatheads crossing tracks

[97268324]

I knew it wasn't just a dream. People did used to cross the rail freely in around and before 2001. I always thought it was one of those wide train dreams I used to have.

[MrChowTheTroll]

7:27 strange, C sets used to go to on the north shore line, am I right?

[nGRSteve0]

Oh the days without T.I, where a train could move regardless if the doors were open or not haha.

[chrissy15101]

i like how the doors are still closing while the train leaves

[ZiRo175]

was that a C-set @ 7:09?

[pentergraph]

the days before traction interlocking and we could cross the tracks without a care in teh world

[sydnytrainspotter]

13:13 Is that C3104?

[cityraildude]

What is the difference between the silver trains with the blue stripe and the ones without? Also, the text is a bit too fast and I can't read it but other than that 6 stars out of 5!

[citytransportinfo]

@cityraildude I think that the different liveries were just rebranding / marketing exercises. Hopefully someone who knows more will be able to answer better than I can.

I'm pleased you liked it - I liked being able to film it and now, many years later, be able to share it. If I had of known 'then' what I know 'now' about computers, the Internet and youtube I would probably have filmed even more!!!

[cityraildude]

@citytransportinfo

I don't think youtube existed then and your films are fantastic!

[pakenhamtrain]

@citytransportinfo

The first 4 cars(The Blue striped train) of the first train and last train at Town hall is the expermental Citydecker refurb. Two 4 car trains were done. S77 and S78.

[cityraildude]

I love this film but there is only one small problem, the text is too fast and I can't read it!

[citytransportinfo]

@cityraildude sorry about the text being too fast - I try to allow between 5 and 8 seconds, depending on how much text there is. Sometimes it may be useful to pause the video to read the text.

[cityraildude]

@citytransportinfo

I DO PAUSE IT

[CMCHRYSLERVALIANT]

@cityraildude try hitting the pause button like I do

[123yessure]

Another great vid! I can almost feel the wind and smell that classic sydney subway burn't rubber smell (a bi-product from the electric motors?). Love the whining sound from the red rattler when pulling out from the platform at then end too. Damn I'd love to ride one of those again

[TheEdwardoishyland]

what train has no doors

[slugnbozo]

This video is pure gold! Like a time machine! C Sets and Tangaras all shiny with their original livery. Station signs with the line colours underneath the name. Doors staying open. The indicator board with the little lights infront of each stopping station. Kids just crossing the tracks. The male voice for announcements. I could go on and on!

Most train footage on YT is recent and doesn't interest me. But this early 90s stuff is brilliant!

BTW, did you take any footage *inside* a C set?

[citytransportinfo]

@slugnbozo Thanks! btw, which is the C Set? The train with the unpainted ribbed side?

One of the unfinished films includes footage inside some of the trains, although I am not sure which type. I also have still images which will be in one of the films - I was going to use them in the film which also has some 1988 Super 8 cine film, but 2 nights ago my film projector broke, so until its repaired I cannot digitise any of my cine films :-(

Simon [now trying to find someone to repair it!]

[slugnbozo]

@citytransportinfo The C set is the train with the red, yellow & orange (also known as "candy") fibreglass livery, seen at 7:45. They were similar inside to the silver unpainted trains but to me as a kid I thought they looked futuristic. They were a lot brighter inside & they had non reversible vandal proof orange seats.

The 1st time I rode one was in the 80s, where they actually had button operated doors (which I think confused everyone) and an opening door indicator complete with melody.

[JoeRoss1993]

The doors were still open on that old red train wyou filmed when it arrived and departed the station. Bit dangerous isn't it? But good filiming and great video.

[citytransportinfo]

@JoeRoss1993 Some trains had hand operated sliding doors, so they could be open between stations.

For many years the same applied on some British trains - eg: in London, on Tyneside.

[extremedebris]

kwl

[T4799]

C3805 at 11:40 . C3805 was the first Comeng double deck power car and was built in 1972. It is still around today. In 1969 there were four experimental double deck power cars built by Tulloch which were of the same design as the double deck carriages on the red rattler towards the end of the video. The Tulloch power cars were in service until around 1980 when they were withdrawn. C3801 and C3803 were converted to trailers T4797 and T4799. T4797 was scrapped after a mishap on the bridge in 1982.

[raakone]

Also...those idiots crossing the tracks? What were they thinking? *besides that there was no third rail, I mean* Also, those red trains had NO DOORS? Unbelievable! (They also sounded like Tube trains when they moved)

[raakone]

Weren't parts of the 1st and 3rs Matrix movies filmed in Cityrail stations?

[Klingl3r]

Interesting what can happen when filming. Blokes climbing over the rails and people waving friendly at you. I assume that the old trains without automatic doors were only used as extra service in the rush hour.

[citytransportinfo]

@Klingl3r When I was there the old trains (the red ones) were being used all day Monday - Friday. But not at weekends, which explains why I have so little film of them.

[Klingl3r]

@citytransportinfo Seems to be common all over the world that old trains are only used on workdays. In my town they have "old" trams which are only in use on workdays.

The old red trains in Sydney were called "Red Rattlers" and were withdrawn in 1993, someone has uploaded the news from this year here on YT.

[xmaspast]

@Klingl3r I was in Sydney in 1991 and I'm pretty sure I traveled on all those.

The red rattlers were an experience but at least the breeze running through them was nice in the summer.

Loved the Tangara's at the time.

[MrChowTheTroll]

@xmaspast But would be hell annoying if is a 40 degrees day and yeah...... If is was warm, but not hot, well its would be good

[Bails992]

Cityrail trains took off much faster back then because as you can here in the video the guard gives the driver the bell when the doors are closing, now the guard will sound the digital voice announcement then he or she will close the doors make sure all the traction interlocking light or lights on some sets have gone out then will give the driver the all clear bell.

Also no more horns departing stations since July 1 2010 but let me tell you it's a hard habit to break.

[citytransportinfo]

@Bails992

We have door closing alarms etc on trains here too. But on many routes we do not have guards anymore.

In some cities (eg: Berlin, Germany) the trains have flashing lights as well as audable alarms. This was standard on East Berlin trains and after unification was extended to West Berlin trains as well.

Simon

[Klingl3r]

@citytransportinfo In german subways they always say "zurückbleiben bitte" and then a signal comes. The only trains without a door closing signal here are the old DT3 subway trains in Hamburg and the ET420 commuter trains in Frankfurt. Maybe worth a visit before they will be withdrawn in the next years.

[pizotjeannoel]

THANK YOU FOR THE VIDÉO

JEAN-NOEL

[citytransportinfo]

@pizotjeannoel You are welcome!

Simon