I agree.. Everything looks, and sounds good on paper but when it comes down to it you cant. And if you want to start something like that.. man the government would come down on you like a rock from the sky. But my best of luck with everything man. I wish i had a video to respond but if your willing to read an e-mail let me know. 5/5
If we rose up and destroyed this government, who would take it's place? The majority of this nation's citizens would instate a fascist theocracy, hands down.
I know what you mean when you talk about the peoples reaction the doors in their neighborhood being knocked down wasn't that of outrage but if this keeps happening more often I think you are going to see a change in reaction. And remember this...IT WAS VIOLENT REVOLUTION THAT MADE US A NATION.
It's u w/o "GOD". It's gonna get worse and then the bestest of the best. And then man, whom u (can) see, feel, touch, etc.. whom uv rathered than The True "GOD", will turn on u and then will begin the worse woes uv known. Repent! For The KINGDOM OF "GOD" IS @ HAND.
The only non violent way, is by voting. When that doesn't work, there is only one other way, and that is many levels of sacrifice. It would happen in every small community. Unless Americans become not lazy, their liberties will continue to be raped.
Cristofer7, I think you're wise to see the society conditioning that has help put us in the situation we are in, as well as sustain and worsen its effect.
However in a system with so much chaos spread across a nation the only thing that can be done is a steady stream of public awareness, and the promotion of real elected officials that can penetrate the governing body and actually make some change.
However, the unbalanced power infrastructure in the form of lobbying corporations and corporate agendas is not going to just sit back and idly watch as this opposition takes place. So all you can do is keep the steady stream of awareness alive and infiltrate as many of these social infrastructures that you can in order to cause real change.
However I just don't think the vast majority of the help this sort of reform is going to call for, is going to respond until it is in fact too late.
It might be the main flaw of the democratic system. It has no mechanisms to change with time nor the people. You can chouse your presidents and representetives. But you cant instate a policy stating that the head of state has to have any qualifications besides being a citisen. (Unlike any other job) The main standard for chousing one over the other is how good the candidates PR guy is.
The truth is plain and simple, we may not want to hear it but the only way to truly fix the situation is to completely start over. Wipe the slate clean. A socio-political revolution. To think a non-violent one would be possible is silly. The answer is in a pseudo-violent one. The only true violence would be against images and buildings much like in the movie V-for Vendetta. People would not be violently targeted. People will organize when they know there are other like minded people.
"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."
Good response man. You have made some very poignant and interesting points. The shit boils down to conditioning man. The media isn't asleep, they report on what they are told by their politico/corporate owners. Sad but true.
Everything has turned into a joke in this country, that's why we are turning into a police state. Oh the Rodney King riots got the government to really pay attention. A peaceful protest will not work if you want a revolution. Anyway, people don't care enough to have a revolution anyway. Only a select few will do something and that of course is not enough. I for one think it's too late for that. Anyone that starts some shit will end up in the Fema Concentration Camp.
one side complains that the other is complacent and negligent of issues, while the latter complains that the former is crying and paranoid. sure, there are problems, but youre not living in zimbabwe, and many in america might say they prefer to live there just to try and rebel and shock, but theyre bullshitting people.
i prefer to go with the flow because most people dont know the long-term consequences of their decisions, they just listen to what their political dogma states and thats it.
This shit just depresses me. I look at Europe and see how there is a mass demonstration every other week then look out my window and see nothing but people doing everything they can to avoid human contact.
We can not win through civil wars, we must win the majority and we musn't only agitate, we must communicate, we have the means to communicate and create peaceful change!
We must realize the workers mass consciousness all over is growing, the momentum is growing and we must not be impatient and ruin the revolution by violent adventurism causing a backlash and brutal reactionism diminishing any chance for change
Patience? No doubt that would've been the same thing our Founders would've told the Blacks about slavery being abolished and women getting the right to vote. If we don't act now, we may never be able to toss the fascists out on their asses. Whenever we do act is gonna bring a reaction, whether it's now or 100 years from now. I don't care to wait that long nor should anyone else.
Emiliano Zapata said it best- "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees".
Even if only 5% of the population is pissed off enough to act, that's 15 million people, plus at least an approximately equal number of sympathizers and potential supporters. Not to mention that many military personnel would most likely refuse to fire on their fellow citizens, especially members of the National Guard and Reserve. All too many are coming back from extended deployments to find their jobs outsourced, their homes foreclosed, and their families facing homelessness and cold.
They're pissed off too and they've been trained to kill. And many regular military are pissed off about seeing their benefits cut and the promises made to them broken by this mis-administration. I'm guessing that revolution will likely start with food and gas riots, like in Petrograd in 1917, and once it starts, will no doubt snowball. If/when that happens, no doubt much of the military will refuse to fire on their friends, relatives, neighbors, and co-workers and go over to the people.
you mention 15 million people and you say its 5%, plus sympathizers etc.. thats a whole lot
and you make perfect sense.
you also mention petrograd 1917,
but there the masses stormed the winter palace and the army, the police, etc... had already been won over by patient agitation not by violent uprisings, leaving noone to defend the palace and shedding no blood while coming to power,
socialism, capitalism, and communism dont solve anything. in europe every country is socialist except maybe ireland, and unemployment is much higher than in the US. economic growth is also slower. but even in socialist europe you can become very rich, and have "private profit" and big corporations, which you seem to dislike.
the question is not which form of government a country should choose, the question is how can a country attract foreign investment.
Even if only 5% of the population is pissed off and informed enough to act, that's 15 million people, plus at least around an equal number of sympathizers and supporters.
Great video, as always. I tend to have the same sort of attitude, like "This world sucks, here are the reasons, but I don't know how to solve them," and I sometimes wonder if I'm just doing a caricature of a seasoned wise man. Like Socrates when said "All I know is that I know nothing." I mean, am I just mimicking the wise (rhetorical question)?
Very true my friend. That haircut works really well on our Cristofer.
Good video Cris ;) Difficult subject.
I have kind of gotten a liking of the Chinese solution to politics. They may have a lack of peoples democracy, but the politicians in the different Parties (yes, there are numerous) have the best of education (in stark contrast to the US) in their field of service.
A combination of this and free press would be a nice solution. Democracy for the ignorant people will never work out good.
What do you think of compulsory voting? I hear arguments like, "part of your right to vote is also your right to abstain", but not having the right to abstain isn't synonymous with right not to protest. You could write yourself in if you were dissatisfied. But if people were forced to show up constantly with no results, don't you think people would become more politically educated, and agitated to change?
On a chessboard you can see everything except your opponents intentions.
Religion WILL destroy your society (and mine) and you wont see it coming until its too late to stop.
It has one purpose. People control. It is almost pure fluke that Hitler and the Pope don't control the whole of Europe today. Within 100 years your nation will go the same way too and we are now too weak to help.
Also, the guy you are responding to said most federal prisons are made up of just poor people. They are made up of poor criminals, not poor people planning to protest. This person seems to forget or just is not aware of the correlation between poverty and crime, and does not seem to realize that is a major problem. Crime, at least in this sense, comes from poverty and social decadence.
The only way you are going to curtail exploitation, exporting jobs to third world countries, achieve a more fair and free society is by more international laws, international cooperation, and international governance.
I never got why people who would generally be opposed to international oppression and exploitation, and corporatism would be so against the concept of world government. As technology advances, society needs to expand. You cant keep a growing technological infrastructure around without expanding governance and society. Also, it is the corporations who love weak international laws and no international oversight (just like how mobs loved the situation in the US before the FBI).
I think America's mainstream political discourse is laughable. In the last few elections, media coverage has focused on campaign strategy and pointing out tactical errors, for instance selecting Palin as running mate to woo disappointed Clinton supporters. Where is talk of the issues?
The political system needs to be fixed, and I think perhaps it can be, without demolishing it and starting again. First things:
The only way you could pull a revolution with any reasonable means of success, Is with the cooperation of high ranking military officials and soldiers willing to pledge themselves to the cause.
I know that I can seem cold and callous ,I'd rather a few dead souls then a billion.
Russia is run by a network of clandestine spy cells ,They would perceive these journalists as foreign agents sent to undertake divide et impera , That's how they perceive things.
I think that a violent revolution could work because it'll make the ruling class scared. who would you attack? occupy governmental buildings. Not sure if it'd work because they might just use it as an excuse to pass more regulation where you lose more rights.
I'm simply in favor of living outside society physically and completely independent in poverty or abusing the hell out of the (welfare/criminal) system to make it collapse from complete economic failure and benefiting yourself in the process.
The solution is to recognize the government doesn't even really exist. Once police officers turn and the army turns against the state it will fail. It is nothing more than a few well dressed mafia men.
$ issues. chris please listen to dave ramseys show via web or 'fix" buisess channel. he gives great $ advice but he sprinkles in a lot of god BS. He turned my $ around. I just roll my eye when he says things like. It not your money its gods money. i would love to hear your comments on his show. please check it out and comment.
Good point ! I understand your doubts and feel your pain. Violence is never the solution. Civil disobedience and peace activism are the only solutions. Spread the message of truth, peace, freedom, critical thinking is the solution to wake up the brainwashed people and take back our liberty. A revolution can be non-violent. Keep hope alive ! Keep up the good work ! Peace and Wisdom from France !
It would take rational people to out-reproduce the religious. The next generation will have to be taught to reject idiocies. We would also have to run out of oil globally.
Russia is not a country that can be held together without authoritarianism, As repulsive it may be, Having a nuclear armed nation fall into civil war and chaos would be a threat to world safety.
So you're in favor of the Russian police shooting journalists in the head?!?!?!?!?
Sorry if that's not your point but with the context of the link Cris provided that's the way I am understanding it. Please! correct me if I am taking it the wrong way.
Revolutions usually begin by people simply DEFENDING themselves against attacking police/soldiers, rather than by a group of militants storming down to a court house, say, and attacking people.
A content citizenry will never revolt. A few isolated cases of injustice and police brutality isn't nearly enough to provoke a revolution. A bad economy, historically isn't even enough.
That said.. the day will certainly come. There's a reason why Rome started as a democracy and ended as a dictatorship.
First of all, I do understand both of you, although I think this is where Cris loses you (correct me if wrong Cris). Even if - as cris says - someone starts a violent revolution and it gets brutally slaughtered down, it would still have made a difference.
If nothing else, it would open the world up for how America is led and how its society has been spiralling to a very dangerous place.
Of course the government would beat it down, but the revolutionists would now be world--known martyrs.
I would like to agree with you. Problem is, no one wants to be that martyr. Who's stepping up? And once a few do, most people will call them terrorists. They won't understand that this was for them, the people. The difference will be minimal. The truth is, things must get much worse before enough people will support such a movement. Don't worry though, things are getting worse.
Things a helluva lot worse than FS is suggesting have happenned before. Sometimes there's been outrage, sometimes there hasn't. But this whole discussion is a bit paranoic to begin with. There's definitely an element of pothead paranoia in the mix here.
But a revolution toward what end, FS? You'd still have a democracy with a fascist-inclined, theocracy-inclined voting majority. The people are the problem. Perhaps education is the answer? It might save the next generation.
And interactions with that demographic you've described, Fisch, is why I've essentially given up on education as the final solution to the world's problems
The Oklahoma city bombing is an example of this, it was an example of a government target for a revolutionary stance & was an attempt at fighting back but clearly had indiscriminate victims who made up the very citizenry you're saying technicality is the government and because of this technicality, they were also part of the target and even if they hadn't been so directly part of the target, such a bombing would still have made a huge political statement.
But of course, that terrorist attack is just how one man made a threatening revolutionary statement. I believe that the closest thing FakeSagan said to that effect was more along the lines of inevitably being forced to give the government some of the same or i.e. to say, conducting similar scare tactics to what the government did to those vegan hippies or at least retaining our right to bear arms in case they "start dragging people out of their homes".
Whenever I hear people talk this way my 1st question is who are you gonna shoot first? Nah, we're not 'there' yet; I'm not sure if we'll ever be 'there' in this country. It may be emotionally satisfying at times to say "that's it, get my gun!" but what the fuck are you gonna do with that gun? We need to make better use of the power we have. We're lazy ass mofos who sit on our ass & let the system choose our candidates for us & then we complain when we're left to choose between frick & frack.
People would rather laugh than cry. If people started taking things seriously, they'd get depressed (well, more so than they are now) because there's not a whole lot that Joe T. Normal and Jane Doe can do on their own to change things. And no one knows how to change what needs to be changed - heck, no one even agrees about *what* needs to be changed in the first place. Also, those neighbors were probably just happy it wasn't *their* door being kicked down - people are like that.
A revolution, even if successful, would only establish what we already have: a democracy in which the majority of its citizenry are poised to vote against democracy.
I think The American revolution started when either our Army or civilian rebels fired at some red coats (government loyalists/police forces, ect) and the first guy to get killed was some black dude, I think.
Maybe a second revolution would begin with some organized militia's popping some bullets at homeland security agents, secret service or police depots?
In the case of the American Revolution people had begun to see the British army as something other than themselves and that hasn't happened here yet. Americans see the CIA etc as themselves and wouldn't at this time turn guns on them unless directly threatened and even then I think most haven't done the necessary mental work to make that decision fast enough.
It's not a new disease - or, it's at least as old as the Romans. They had an expression for it - Panem et circenses - Bread and circuses. As long as we have 150 channels of TV and a six-pack in the fridge, we'll pretty much let corporate and government interests do what they want. Evolution gave us a new trick - big brains, but using those big brains is just too much effort, as is evidenced by the last couple of elections. It's going to have to get worse before our apathy is discarded. Sorry.
To be fair, I heard that the neighbours kicked up a stink at the police trying to condemn the building afterwards (theres a fucking crack den next door *facepalm) so they gave the (imprisoned at the time...) owner some hours to fix the two doors the cops kicked in. I'm glad people are kicking up some stink about this.
Your video is def going on my facebook page.
You speak the truth man.
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I agree.. Everything looks, and sounds good on paper but when it comes down to it you cant. And if you want to start something like that.. man the government would come down on you like a rock from the sky. But my best of luck with everything man. I wish i had a video to respond but if your willing to read an e-mail let me know. 5/5
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Jcolinsol 1 year ago
If we rose up and destroyed this government, who would take it's place? The majority of this nation's citizens would instate a fascist theocracy, hands down.
meinperpetualmotion 3 years ago
Apathy is the only state that the most people can be in. We are all stumbling round in the twilight of consciousness and the vast majority dont care.
We're apathetic to being apathetic.
DanC9189 3 years ago
I know what you mean when you talk about the peoples reaction the doors in their neighborhood being knocked down wasn't that of outrage but if this keeps happening more often I think you are going to see a change in reaction. And remember this...IT WAS VIOLENT REVOLUTION THAT MADE US A NATION.
mootallica 3 years ago
It's u w/o "GOD". It's gonna get worse and then the bestest of the best. And then man, whom u (can) see, feel, touch, etc.. whom uv rathered than The True "GOD", will turn on u and then will begin the worse woes uv known. Repent! For The KINGDOM OF "GOD" IS @ HAND.
marcsimac 3 years ago
crazy fucker
AgentGhost 3 years ago
can someone give me some insight on what revolution?
hyphope 3 years ago
I think some people want a second american revolution.
LiamGodlington 3 years ago
The only non violent way, is by voting. When that doesn't work, there is only one other way, and that is many levels of sacrifice. It would happen in every small community. Unless Americans become not lazy, their liberties will continue to be raped.
DrewDawg50 3 years ago
Cristofer7, I think you're wise to see the society conditioning that has help put us in the situation we are in, as well as sustain and worsen its effect.
However in a system with so much chaos spread across a nation the only thing that can be done is a steady stream of public awareness, and the promotion of real elected officials that can penetrate the governing body and actually make some change.
shiningcross 3 years ago
However, the unbalanced power infrastructure in the form of lobbying corporations and corporate agendas is not going to just sit back and idly watch as this opposition takes place. So all you can do is keep the steady stream of awareness alive and infiltrate as many of these social infrastructures that you can in order to cause real change.
However I just don't think the vast majority of the help this sort of reform is going to call for, is going to respond until it is in fact too late.
shiningcross 3 years ago
It might be the main flaw of the democratic system. It has no mechanisms to change with time nor the people. You can chouse your presidents and representetives. But you cant instate a policy stating that the head of state has to have any qualifications besides being a citisen. (Unlike any other job) The main standard for chousing one over the other is how good the candidates PR guy is.
LddStyx 3 years ago
The truth is plain and simple, we may not want to hear it but the only way to truly fix the situation is to completely start over. Wipe the slate clean. A socio-political revolution. To think a non-violent one would be possible is silly. The answer is in a pseudo-violent one. The only true violence would be against images and buildings much like in the movie V-for Vendetta. People would not be violently targeted. People will organize when they know there are other like minded people.
sparky565 3 years ago
There is a need for a revolution, but not necessarily violent.
wwickeddogg 3 years ago
"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."
GBart 3 years ago
Good response man. You have made some very poignant and interesting points. The shit boils down to conditioning man. The media isn't asleep, they report on what they are told by their politico/corporate owners. Sad but true.
mconn2112 3 years ago
Everything has turned into a joke in this country, that's why we are turning into a police state. Oh the Rodney King riots got the government to really pay attention. A peaceful protest will not work if you want a revolution. Anyway, people don't care enough to have a revolution anyway. Only a select few will do something and that of course is not enough. I for one think it's too late for that. Anyone that starts some shit will end up in the Fema Concentration Camp.
prestige334 3 years ago
one side complains that the other is complacent and negligent of issues, while the latter complains that the former is crying and paranoid. sure, there are problems, but youre not living in zimbabwe, and many in america might say they prefer to live there just to try and rebel and shock, but theyre bullshitting people.
i prefer to go with the flow because most people dont know the long-term consequences of their decisions, they just listen to what their political dogma states and thats it.
loturos 3 years ago
This shit just depresses me. I look at Europe and see how there is a mass demonstration every other week then look out my window and see nothing but people doing everything they can to avoid human contact.
fathead8489 3 years ago
We can not win through civil wars, we must win the majority and we musn't only agitate, we must communicate, we have the means to communicate and create peaceful change!
We must realize the workers mass consciousness all over is growing, the momentum is growing and we must not be impatient and ruin the revolution by violent adventurism causing a backlash and brutal reactionism diminishing any chance for change
patience comrades we need patience
patiently explain to the working masses
SoCalSocialism 3 years ago
Patience? No doubt that would've been the same thing our Founders would've told the Blacks about slavery being abolished and women getting the right to vote. If we don't act now, we may never be able to toss the fascists out on their asses. Whenever we do act is gonna bring a reaction, whether it's now or 100 years from now. I don't care to wait that long nor should anyone else.
Emiliano Zapata said it best- "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees".
Pbirv 3 years ago
you want to act now okay how many are we uh...not enough!
you say whenever we do act it will bring a reaction, true, and that reaction will win if we dont have the majority of the masses,
but you want to act now! while we're still a minority
we need more numbers
more awareness comrade
we must politicize the masses
organize the working class
patiently agitate and explain to the working class!
then when the time is right strike and act!!
with an unstoppable force of 100 million!!
SoCalSocialism 3 years ago
Even if only 5% of the population is pissed off enough to act, that's 15 million people, plus at least an approximately equal number of sympathizers and potential supporters. Not to mention that many military personnel would most likely refuse to fire on their fellow citizens, especially members of the National Guard and Reserve. All too many are coming back from extended deployments to find their jobs outsourced, their homes foreclosed, and their families facing homelessness and cold.
Pbirv 3 years ago
They're pissed off too and they've been trained to kill. And many regular military are pissed off about seeing their benefits cut and the promises made to them broken by this mis-administration. I'm guessing that revolution will likely start with food and gas riots, like in Petrograd in 1917, and once it starts, will no doubt snowball. If/when that happens, no doubt much of the military will refuse to fire on their friends, relatives, neighbors, and co-workers and go over to the people.
Pbirv 3 years ago
you mention 15 million people and you say its 5%, plus sympathizers etc.. thats a whole lot
and you make perfect sense.
you also mention petrograd 1917,
but there the masses stormed the winter palace and the army, the police, etc... had already been won over by patient agitation not by violent uprisings, leaving noone to defend the palace and shedding no blood while coming to power,
yes we must act but not violently
thats stupid and childish dont you think?
SoCalSocialism 3 years ago
The Winter Palace was stormed after the March Revolution had ousted the Tsar. That was the one I was referring to.
The October Revolution, the one where the Bolsheviks took the Palace, was against Kerensky's Provisional Government.
Pbirv 3 years ago
lol everyone thinks theyre the hero...big, brave words. been there, done that.
loturos 3 years ago
i aint no hero i just dont like capitalism,
we can do better than selfsih people out for their private profits exploiting millions of honest hands for private profits
millions of skilled people and university grads cant have jobs cuz companies cant make profits off them,
millions of normal people can't have jobs cuz that would create too much product and companies wouldnt be able to sell it
and millions live in poverty
thats a circus and sick humanity
SoCalSocialism 3 years ago
socialism, capitalism, and communism dont solve anything. in europe every country is socialist except maybe ireland, and unemployment is much higher than in the US. economic growth is also slower. but even in socialist europe you can become very rich, and have "private profit" and big corporations, which you seem to dislike.
the question is not which form of government a country should choose, the question is how can a country attract foreign investment.
loturos 3 years ago
A revolt may get us dead, but it's far better to be dead than to live as a slave.
Pbirv 3 years ago
Even if only 5% of the population is pissed off and informed enough to act, that's 15 million people, plus at least around an equal number of sympathizers and supporters.
Pbirv 3 years ago
I'd guess that others maybe have pointed this out already but our violent revolution wouldn't work because of their military strength.
When it comes to violence, 'they' have it down to a science.
Thanks for giving these issues attention fakesagan and cristofer.
LJPpro 3 years ago
"but our violent revolution wouldn't work because of their military strength"
People said the same thing in 1776. Look what happened then.
Pbirv 3 years ago
Great video, as always. I tend to have the same sort of attitude, like "This world sucks, here are the reasons, but I don't know how to solve them," and I sometimes wonder if I'm just doing a caricature of a seasoned wise man. Like Socrates when said "All I know is that I know nothing." I mean, am I just mimicking the wise (rhetorical question)?
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago
I know this may seem like a dumb comment in an important video but, You've got a nice haircut. :)
PennyRoyaleTea 3 years ago
Very true my friend. That haircut works really well on our Cristofer.
Good video Cris ;) Difficult subject.
I have kind of gotten a liking of the Chinese solution to politics. They may have a lack of peoples democracy, but the politicians in the different Parties (yes, there are numerous) have the best of education (in stark contrast to the US) in their field of service.
A combination of this and free press would be a nice solution. Democracy for the ignorant people will never work out good.
GermanExceptionalism 3 years ago
What do you think of compulsory voting? I hear arguments like, "part of your right to vote is also your right to abstain", but not having the right to abstain isn't synonymous with right not to protest. You could write yourself in if you were dissatisfied. But if people were forced to show up constantly with no results, don't you think people would become more politically educated, and agitated to change?
AnticDispossession 3 years ago
Ron Paul rEvolution ?? :P
arconus 3 years ago
Christ - have you ever played chess? LEARN!
On a chessboard you can see everything except your opponents intentions.
Religion WILL destroy your society (and mine) and you wont see it coming until its too late to stop.
It has one purpose. People control. It is almost pure fluke that Hitler and the Pope don't control the whole of Europe today. Within 100 years your nation will go the same way too and we are now too weak to help.
simonrorke 3 years ago
Also, the guy you are responding to said most federal prisons are made up of just poor people. They are made up of poor criminals, not poor people planning to protest. This person seems to forget or just is not aware of the correlation between poverty and crime, and does not seem to realize that is a major problem. Crime, at least in this sense, comes from poverty and social decadence.
berrypievision 3 years ago
The only way you are going to curtail exploitation, exporting jobs to third world countries, achieve a more fair and free society is by more international laws, international cooperation, and international governance.
berrypievision 3 years ago
I never got why people who would generally be opposed to international oppression and exploitation, and corporatism would be so against the concept of world government. As technology advances, society needs to expand. You cant keep a growing technological infrastructure around without expanding governance and society. Also, it is the corporations who love weak international laws and no international oversight (just like how mobs loved the situation in the US before the FBI).
berrypievision 3 years ago
The only person who can organize a revolution now is TheAmazingAtheist. He's got 21,323 men. On the christian side, VenomFangX have 16,379.
ogapadoga 3 years ago
hang on a second. Fakey wants to overthrow the government and he chickens out of a boxing match with capnoawesome?
Hmm...
memblor 3 years ago
I think America's mainstream political discourse is laughable. In the last few elections, media coverage has focused on campaign strategy and pointing out tactical errors, for instance selecting Palin as running mate to woo disappointed Clinton supporters. Where is talk of the issues?
The political system needs to be fixed, and I think perhaps it can be, without demolishing it and starting again. First things:
1)Introduce preference voting
2)Ban lobbying
3)Better accountability
riversonthemoon 3 years ago
Which is the name of Warren youtube account?
(warren25 no longer exists)
dilmo22 3 years ago
I think it's warren26peace, or something like that (I should know I'm subscribed to him lol).
ChrisCummins 3 years ago
I know we're not supposed to talk about it but, don't forget 'Project Mayhem'.
VonSchnutze 3 years ago
There is nothing so bad that we can't make it worse....we have to figure out how to make it better.
sablechicken 3 years ago
Can someone direct me towards the video of the "passive neighbours" talked about at the beginning of this video?
NaturalLogorithm 3 years ago
This is definitely one of your best videos. 6 stars.
438MillionBC 3 years ago
Goods points.
Mjhavok 3 years ago
The only way you could pull a revolution with any reasonable means of success, Is with the cooperation of high ranking military officials and soldiers willing to pledge themselves to the cause.
Gringoman911 3 years ago
I know that I can seem cold and callous ,I'd rather a few dead souls then a billion.
Russia is run by a network of clandestine spy cells ,They would perceive these journalists as foreign agents sent to undertake divide et impera , That's how they perceive things.
Gringoman911 3 years ago
I think that a violent revolution could work because it'll make the ruling class scared. who would you attack? occupy governmental buildings. Not sure if it'd work because they might just use it as an excuse to pass more regulation where you lose more rights.
Finiras 3 years ago
I'm simply in favor of living outside society physically and completely independent in poverty or abusing the hell out of the (welfare/criminal) system to make it collapse from complete economic failure and benefiting yourself in the process.
Reproductivist 3 years ago
This was an excellent video and I'm going to do a video response on my thoughts and what points I thought you hit on that really made sense.
FistsoFuckinFreedom 3 years ago
This video did not show up in my subscriptions. Ultragayness
fucksatanism 3 years ago
The solution is to recognize the government doesn't even really exist. Once police officers turn and the army turns against the state it will fail. It is nothing more than a few well dressed mafia men.
overmind25 3 years ago
$ issues. chris please listen to dave ramseys show via web or 'fix" buisess channel. he gives great $ advice but he sprinkles in a lot of god BS. He turned my $ around. I just roll my eye when he says things like. It not your money its gods money. i would love to hear your comments on his show. please check it out and comment.
a300pilotster 3 years ago
Good point ! I understand your doubts and feel your pain. Violence is never the solution. Civil disobedience and peace activism are the only solutions. Spread the message of truth, peace, freedom, critical thinking is the solution to wake up the brainwashed people and take back our liberty. A revolution can be non-violent. Keep hope alive ! Keep up the good work ! Peace and Wisdom from France !
olorin007x 3 years ago
It would take rational people to out-reproduce the religious. The next generation will have to be taught to reject idiocies. We would also have to run out of oil globally.
cynisturb 3 years ago
Russia is not a country that can be held together without authoritarianism, As repulsive it may be, Having a nuclear armed nation fall into civil war and chaos would be a threat to world safety.
Gringoman911 3 years ago
So you're in favor of the Russian police shooting journalists in the head?!?!?!?!?
Sorry if that's not your point but with the context of the link Cris provided that's the way I am understanding it. Please! correct me if I am taking it the wrong way.
CitizenWorm 3 years ago
Revolutions usually begin by people simply DEFENDING themselves against attacking police/soldiers, rather than by a group of militants storming down to a court house, say, and attacking people.
A content citizenry will never revolt. A few isolated cases of injustice and police brutality isn't nearly enough to provoke a revolution. A bad economy, historically isn't even enough.
That said.. the day will certainly come. There's a reason why Rome started as a democracy and ended as a dictatorship.
bishop8000 3 years ago
you know MLK said america was now anti revolutionary, and i see that as the major problem.....now we just sit there...
matereymate 3 years ago
First of all, I do understand both of you, although I think this is where Cris loses you (correct me if wrong Cris). Even if - as cris says - someone starts a violent revolution and it gets brutally slaughtered down, it would still have made a difference.
If nothing else, it would open the world up for how America is led and how its society has been spiralling to a very dangerous place.
Of course the government would beat it down, but the revolutionists would now be world--known martyrs.
Fr0ggeh86 3 years ago
I would like to agree with you. Problem is, no one wants to be that martyr. Who's stepping up? And once a few do, most people will call them terrorists. They won't understand that this was for them, the people. The difference will be minimal. The truth is, things must get much worse before enough people will support such a movement. Don't worry though, things are getting worse.
cowboycoco 3 years ago
Things a helluva lot worse than FS is suggesting have happenned before. Sometimes there's been outrage, sometimes there hasn't. But this whole discussion is a bit paranoic to begin with. There's definitely an element of pothead paranoia in the mix here.
BillTheHeathen 3 years ago
But a revolution toward what end, FS? You'd still have a democracy with a fascist-inclined, theocracy-inclined voting majority. The people are the problem. Perhaps education is the answer? It might save the next generation.
Fisch71 3 years ago
And interactions with that demographic you've described, Fisch, is why I've essentially given up on education as the final solution to the world's problems
MassZombicide 3 years ago
Isn't this somehting they can lock you up for now? You can be labeled a terrorist and apprehended..
Hurray for america.
PISTOLcm 3 years ago
The Oklahoma city bombing is an example of this, it was an example of a government target for a revolutionary stance & was an attempt at fighting back but clearly had indiscriminate victims who made up the very citizenry you're saying technicality is the government and because of this technicality, they were also part of the target and even if they hadn't been so directly part of the target, such a bombing would still have made a huge political statement.
MassZombicide 3 years ago
But of course, that terrorist attack is just how one man made a threatening revolutionary statement. I believe that the closest thing FakeSagan said to that effect was more along the lines of inevitably being forced to give the government some of the same or i.e. to say, conducting similar scare tactics to what the government did to those vegan hippies or at least retaining our right to bear arms in case they "start dragging people out of their homes".
MassZombicide 3 years ago
They don't need to drag you out, they'll just tell you that you have to leave and you will.
VonSchnutze 3 years ago
That too
MassZombicide 3 years ago
Whenever I hear people talk this way my 1st question is who are you gonna shoot first? Nah, we're not 'there' yet; I'm not sure if we'll ever be 'there' in this country. It may be emotionally satisfying at times to say "that's it, get my gun!" but what the fuck are you gonna do with that gun? We need to make better use of the power we have. We're lazy ass mofos who sit on our ass & let the system choose our candidates for us & then we complain when we're left to choose between frick & frack.
BillTheHeathen 3 years ago
The government would love a rebellion to crush. One more excuse to rewrite the constitution and strip away personal freedoms.
silicon2001 3 years ago
Fakesagan's sanity needs to be called into question. His Gumbinista revolution is nothing but hot air and flapping horse teeth.
theBigTakeover 3 years ago
People would rather laugh than cry. If people started taking things seriously, they'd get depressed (well, more so than they are now) because there's not a whole lot that Joe T. Normal and Jane Doe can do on their own to change things. And no one knows how to change what needs to be changed - heck, no one even agrees about *what* needs to be changed in the first place. Also, those neighbors were probably just happy it wasn't *their* door being kicked down - people are like that.
albapuella 3 years ago
A revolution, even if successful, would only establish what we already have: a democracy in which the majority of its citizenry are poised to vote against democracy.
Fisch71 3 years ago
ahhh shit plato!
mikezephyr 3 years ago
I think The American revolution started when either our Army or civilian rebels fired at some red coats (government loyalists/police forces, ect) and the first guy to get killed was some black dude, I think.
Maybe a second revolution would begin with some organized militia's popping some bullets at homeland security agents, secret service or police depots?
Rahab111222 3 years ago
In the case of the American Revolution people had begun to see the British army as something other than themselves and that hasn't happened here yet. Americans see the CIA etc as themselves and wouldn't at this time turn guns on them unless directly threatened and even then I think most haven't done the necessary mental work to make that decision fast enough.
CitizenWorm 3 years ago
I think you're referring to the Boston Massacre the person in question is Crispus Attucks, a sailor on a merchant ship
cehbeach 3 years ago
i liked this vid alot
i think u should do some more political videos or somthin all those lines
keep it up!
neatoizer 3 years ago
It's not a new disease - or, it's at least as old as the Romans. They had an expression for it - Panem et circenses - Bread and circuses. As long as we have 150 channels of TV and a six-pack in the fridge, we'll pretty much let corporate and government interests do what they want. Evolution gave us a new trick - big brains, but using those big brains is just too much effort, as is evidenced by the last couple of elections. It's going to have to get worse before our apathy is discarded. Sorry.
47f0 3 years ago
Do you have a link about the journalist's assassination?
TheScrewOnHead 3 years ago
TheScrwOnHead- I will post a link now in the description box...
Cristofer7 3 years ago
To be fair, I heard that the neighbours kicked up a stink at the police trying to condemn the building afterwards (theres a fucking crack den next door *facepalm) so they gave the (imprisoned at the time...) owner some hours to fix the two doors the cops kicked in. I'm glad people are kicking up some stink about this.
WholeDarnShow 3 years ago
what video are you reffering to?
macwild1234 3 years ago
macwild1234-fakesagan's vid has links to the vids I am talking about in his description... I may post links in my description box...
Cristofer7 3 years ago