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  • ..."She is a facial shameleon?" I think he meant to say chameleon. LOL.

  • I gotta say it's funny watching these hearings. The inmate and her lawyer are shuffling papers, and acting like they're giving a presentation at a board room meeting. They don't seem to get the fact that this isn't just an administrative hearing to those impacted, it's a torturous reminder that their loved ones were slaughtered to death by pathetic losers.

  • Doris Tate, Debra Tate, Patricia Tate, Sharon Tate's father HAVE VICTIM'S RIGHT'S. Doris Tate FOUGHT to change the law so that victim's could have THE RIGHT to SPEAK out for the DEAD LOVED ONE's right to the dignity of their memory.

    Susan Atkins, Leslie Van Houto , Tex Watson were MODEL Manson FOLLOWERS. They followed evil and did what they were told. Now they are model prisoners and have the nerve to ask for parole. The convicted killer Edward William Gacy was also a model prisoner.

  • Seems like the prosecutiion got the favorable treatment. All they did was rehash stuff we already knew, sensationalist stuff. The purpose of the hearing should have been how she has done since the incarceration began. Susan was a born-again Christian. Why was the SAME doctor who trashed her the same one who was to question her again? I don't see why the hell Debra Tate should have been allowed to say anything.

  • @fruticetum

    There are consequences to crime. Susan Atkins may have felt those consequences were unpleasant; probably not as unpleasant as being held down while a stranger stabs you and your unborn baby to death.

    Susan Atkins' victims can never speak for themselves. The horrific suffering inflicted upon their families is real, and counts. Debra Tate speaks to that effect. Thank goodness for that.

    Being a 'Born-again Christian' is not a get out of jail free card.

  • @fruticetum

    Its true the parole boards never given Atkins a fair hearing But Its irrelevent in this case, Atkins & Co were initially given the death penalty but the death penalty was outlawed a year later So they all got "life with parole" (no such thing as life without parole back then) Its not that these hearings are unfair to Atkins the reality is the parole boards just going thru the motions of a hearing because of the "legal technicality" & all parties know it. What a farce !

  • I point out those scriptures for the religious but I don't have any desire to force my opinions on anybody, people have the right to their own. We've all been around only a short while and are doing the best we can with what we've got, hopefully.

  • The way I see it is you either utilize the death penalty, make the sentence devoid of parole possibility BUT if there is parole, actually give the person the chance to show the signs of rehabilitation. Take out the heavy drugs and Manson's manipulation and if she had still done all that then I wouldn't be saying any of this. It's a tragedy in so many ways it's ridiculous.

  • I don't say any of this lightly, My cousin had his head blown off on his front porch when he was barely in jr high. One of my good friends around the block was butchered along with her mother a couple streets up from my house when we were in high school. They were stabbed repeatedly by a transient that had gone to our school. She was only 17. I read helter skelter for the first time in 1988 and did my own research on and off over the last 14 years.

  • Literally she was not even the same human being after 7 years, add to that 7 years after a complete change she was physiologically and psychologically a different Susan atkins after a minimum of 14 years and definitely by 19 years taking the original 5 years into account. These are medical facts and interesting that what she had done in the courtroom and PRIOR to the trial was the grounds for keeping her in. People forget what was done to create the monster that existed in 69.

  • I find it odd that her use of LSD and other drugs was not brought up, add to that Charles Manson's personal influence, the family too, as well as the brainwashing/programming that had gone on. She speaks to the fact that it took 5 years just to begin to think normally. LSD renders a person insane at a certain dose, how could these factors not be brought up 25 years later. This isn't even the same human being.

  • @ALL CHRISTIANS

    You can't claim to be a follower of Christ while at the same time preaching an eye for an eye, Matthew 5:38-43 Jesus explains that no longer applies and lays down new commands that he says ARE THE ATTRIBUTES OF THE CREATOR, THE FATHER.

    Second, Christ says that anybody who wishes hell fire on another will receive it themselves. If you want to be able to condemn and hate, leave the faith. Otherwise start practicing what you preach.

  • @joancrawford1933 Hey! That may be one of the victims family members or friends. Why the need to flip out on a person who's chosen to forgive? What people don't understand is that forgiveness is more of a gift to the self, NOT the perpetrator. Have you ever seen a carefree, joyful, healthy elderly person full of resentment and unforgiveness?They don't exist. You cheat yourself by thinking your condemnation gives you power, it actually destroys you. It's a secret most don't learn.

  • nice party.....fuck americans. our friend from ösiland (austria) will whistle you something :-)

  • If she was truly remorseful she wouldn't ask to be released.

  • @90sMusiclova bingo!

  • i think is really pathetic for debra tate and her father to hold on to was susan atkins was, every opportunity given they repeat over and over again how crazy susan atkins was back in 1969-1970, does anyone knows the word CHANGE? it's been like 40 years now, people CAN change, and i really think that susan atkins is really remorsed about it and she's a sane lady. However, they want to keep her there not because she's remorsed or not, but because they feel she has to pay for ever

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  • @belladonna1482 : those are the typical thoughts of a sexually repressed american catholic churchgoer....so so pathetic!

  • @artemiscarrington and she should..she took or watched Tex take the life of Sharon & her child..she should have been excuted..

  • @artemiscarrington ..and pay 4ever , she should..She was present or participated in the death of several people & a pregnant woman and unborn child..She does not deserve to live..All of these murderers shold have been excuted..If it was ur sister wouldn't u feel the same way..

  • @MSpamelamarie Yes, but i just find pathetic the fact that they ALWAYS repeat on every single hearing that she was a crazy bitch who insulted everyone on the trial back in '71. She was a changed woman. I know that that's no reason to let her free, but still

  • @artemiscarrington how in the world do you expect a father and a sister to let go of the fact that their own daughter/sister was burtally murdered by this woman?? how the hell can you let go of that??? and how the hell is she remoseful if she hasnt even apollogized to the families themselves!!!! HUH???? answer me that!

  • @tyryryrrr it's been 40 years already, it's crazy to think that in that period of time she didn't change,

  • @artemiscarrington i said nothing about change... i asked how can a family let go of the fact that someone brutally murdered their family member! who gives a damn if its been 40 year, the fact is she still murdered people and the family has every right to always remain mad! i could care less if atkins changed.. she still murdered people! and she will always be remember as a murderer.. not a changed person!

  • @tyryryrrr well they have to consider change, i don't care what U have to say

  • @artemiscarrington well then stop commenting on my posts!

  • @tyryryrrr you were the one who started bitch

  • One down; three to go ...

  • Well she isnt in heaven, that's all i know.

  • Shut the fuck up with your forgivness bullshit! you've said it on every fucking video of susan atkins. fuck susan! she's burning in hell now.

  • There's no such thing as hell.

  • @1337Yazman What are you going to do if you find out hell is real?

  • @MrManEnough I won't do anything because it isn't :)

  • @JoanCrawford1933 Can't handle the forgiveness stuff? You can't have salvation without forgiveness. It's in God's word. We all will be judged by his word. Doesn't matter if you choose to believe he exist or not.

  • @MrManEnough It's my opinon and uhhh i dont recall saying i dont believe god exsists all i meant was, that idiot kept posting the same thing on every damn video, it was pretty annoying. and no i dont believe susan should be forgiven, she did the crime, now she's paying.

  • Susan ,I forgave you. RIP ,May 7, 1948 - September 24, 2009

  • Type in Susan Atkins on Google images , on the first page you will see a photo of Sharon Tate when she was found after those monsters slaughtered her . Do you still forgive her now ? There must be something seriously wrong with your brain if you can forgive the evil bastards who butchered those poor people . Would you forgive if it had been a member of your family who had been killed in the most horrendous way ? I doubt it very much . Susan Atkins is dead , good riddance I say . Rot in hell .

  • @naja46 those are the typical thoughts of a sexually repressed american catholic churchgoer....so so pathetic!

  • @discodelirio Well well , a bit presumptious aren't we ? Get your facts straight before you start flinging insults at people . I'm not sexually repressed , I'm not American ( thank God ) & I'm not a catholic churchgoer . Wrong on 3 counts then . If I'm pathetic , what does that make you ? Oh I see you're German , well that says it all doesn't it ?

  • @discodelirio: Although your "sexually repressed American" post was ridiculous, I gotta give you credit for sheer audacity! One would have hoped that, since you are German, you of ALL people, would avoid stereotyping people and condescending to other nationalities. You should relate well to Atkins, in that she too was easily led by a nutcase. She killed 8 people, your countrymen killed tens of millions. But keep joking about Americans if that's what helps you feel okay ;)

  • It's not for you to give forgiveness to that warped woman. It's the family that had their pregnant daughter, sister, wife, etc stabbed and choked to death. I mean...you 'forgive' a woman that dipped a cloth in a pregnant womans blood and wiped pig on the wall? Who laughed in court when talking about Sharons last breaths. Vile, just vile.

  • It's poetic justice that prior to her death, Doris Tate became an activist by giving her testimony at the Manson murderers' parole hearings (her 2 youngest daughters also carried the torch)...Sharon Tate begged for her mother as Atkins stabbed her to death. For years Atkins had to face Mrs. Tate for whom Sharon cried that night in 1969. Yes, Mrs. Tate did come to Sharon's defense and all of the murderers had to listen. My thoughts are with the families of the victims.

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  • That' not sharon's mom! that's her sister debra.

  • Tate's mom seems to have aged well...

  • hahaha that ISN'T her mom

  • oh, is that her sister?

  • yes, her younger sister

  • rest in piss cunt murderess bitch!

  • buliosi now is not against susan bieng released case she is unconsious 85% of the time amd cant speak and had a leg removed

  • Why do these people even seek parole? Their life would be a living hell on the outside. Stabbing a pregnant woman and her baby dozens of times doesn't really look too good on a resume'

  • Sharons mother looks beatiful, I wish her comfort & peace and most of all I wish that the monster would die so sharons mother can put this behind her god bless her soul.

    PS how old is the mother anyone know ??

  • readynow12345. that's not sharons mother. that's her sister debra.

  • This is a fucking joke that there even having a hearing for this monster she should have been killed a long time ago,

    the nerve of her to say she is suitable for parole, I want so bad to see this cunt die

    I will surely have a toast to it when it happens, my wish is that when she is dying that I can look right at her an laugh my ass off and say die die die die.

  • Atkins, ROT IN HELL yer dirty montrous bitch. The Devil will be waiting 4 u - may you suffer eternally in pain you wicked filthy monstrous cunt DIE DIE DIE

  • stupid people shouldnt talk..ELMO

  • Yeah..ignorantass elmo..if that was YOUR sister getting killed that way and an insensitive clod like you were making fun of it..u r sick.

  • if that idiot woman can't sit there and read that letter then what the hell is she doing there, that tate has no more business there than atkins does.

  • You're ignorant. She can't read it because she's in PAIN!! Maybe more pain

    than you will ever experience in your lifetime!!

  • sure she is, so much pain tate posed for Playboy, give me a break.

  • Which 1? Debra? So what? She can still be in pain!

  • yeah debra tate nude in playboy, nice titties but a lousy ass on her.  her pain has nothing to do with this parole hearing, this hearing is about atkin's fitness for release. its not about poor piggie tate.

  • Watch your fucking mouth faggot, I'll come knocking on your door boy, I know who you are and where you live watch ass wipe

  • im waiting.

  • Imagine how you'd feel if it was your sister! Also, her other sister had died earlier that same year in 2000 -- Patti Tate died in 2000 and her dad was ill.. She was probably nervous as all get out and upset.

    Leave her alone!

  • i gave up playing imagination when i was about age 4 or 5, thanks anyway.

  • You're just looking for attention. It is pathetic. Get some help dude.

  • speak for youself from now on, you can't speak for me, you don't even know my language.

  • You're a troll.. get help please. thanks.

  • ok im a troll, and you're a perfectly well-adjusted individual that sees fit to insult others and imply they're insane. glad that's settled.

  • Col Paul Tate died in 2005. After the murders he went undercover as a hippie to try and smoke out the killers

  • wicked spiritual forces led her astray-she is a kind woman which could ordinarily lead to confusion.

  • snaggletooth67 doesn't get enough attention..poor little thing..

  • Well said there SHRINA17!!

  • I'm sorry to hear you begging for mercy of your life Susan. But have you forgotten that Sharon begged for TWO lives?! Neither her cries or yours will be heard in this life. Perhaps if you really have FOUND God, then he will grant you your mercy.

  • she is EVIL-PERSONIFIED!

    god bless the Tates, although Debra is the only one still alive.

  • Each of those murderers desperately hopes for a parole recommendation. They have decades more to hope and pray. Look at them get their hopes up! They're right where they're going to die.

  • You sick bastard.

  • HA HA AND hope u get your loved one whom you hold so dear killed and may u live with taht your whole liefe and may they be hung from a tree for u to see HA HA HA

  • u sick shit

  • You're truly a disgusting human being, a despicable person and above all a giant fuck bastard

  • wow, u suck

  • Its nice to know what Susan wants so at least she can be denied that,freedom!

  • "Woman I have no Mercey For You"

    quote by Susan Atkins

    now I am saying it to her

  • Go debra!! I love you !! God bless!

  • "Religion has nothing to do with release, because if it did, we would be opening the doors to half of the prison population." You got that right.

  • Good call, grneyes. This stupid bitch is asking for parole?! She should be happy they didn't blow torch her ass!

  • She should take a cue from another former murderer (and serial killer) David Berkowitz. He accepts the FACT that he belongs in jail for his former crimes and (I believe) he is a completely transformed person because of his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. There's a story on him in one of my playlists at the top of my profile, in case you're interested in checking it out.

  • If she is truly remorseful, she would STOP trying to get out on parole. She needs to be grateful that she is even alive today and accept the fact that she DESERVES to be in jail for the rest of her life. I'm glad she found the Lord and I hope that she really IS a Christian, but IF she is, then she needs to ACCEPT her sentence and accept the fact that she belongs where she is for the sake of justice. I hope that she NEVER gets out.

  • Please see my comments on Part 2 of this 'grneyes7' as i agree with you totally

  • Be nice!!

  • It's hard to see that even after 31 years her sister is still too emotional to even speak...if they had originally given Susan Atins the death penalty and it was oveturned they should have given a life sentence with NO parole to keep these family members from suffering over and over at each parole hearing...that is injustice.

  • What you are saying is absolutely moronic...

  • oh yeah im sure that sharon tate wanted to die. Not! The last words she said was please let me live, all i want to do is have my baby. Its not about the family it is the justice for all that was murdered. She was a killer once and can kill again.

  • she was reading, and it said I WATCHED my family ripped apart, she just read it wrong or there was a typo or perhaps it was hand written

  • what about Susans attorney/husbands argument. Part I ends with him starting and Part 2 begins with him finishing. WTF?

  • I believe all the killers are remorseful and would not be a threat to society if release, but the crime is just too horrible and brutal and infamous to allow any of these killers to be released. Since they are truly remorseful perhaps they should accept their fate and life in prison.

  • It is Absolutely Devastating, Heart-breaking, and an

    Outrage of the True Realms of Absolute JUSTICE that the Families of Sharon Tate and the other Victims of Susan Atkins have to be put through this Ordeal of Parole Hearings every small number of years... It is Resoundingly and Eternally Clear that Susan Atkins is a Remorseless, Cold-Blooded, Calculating Murderess- one of the Most Heinous and Diabolical in American History-even the Entire Earth...

  • Ah come on let the chick out.Keep Manson in.

  • no she was actually at the murder scence. Manson wasnt even there. He let her do his dirty work and 2 oher girls and a man. So why should she get any remourse? She did it.

  • Poor Patti..she died that year of cancer..

  • That's not Patti in this video. Patti died a few years before this parole hearing. The Tate sister appearing here is Debra Tate. Too bad we can't see the look on lying sadie's face.

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