@Yeshulion Zionist Israel only siphons off millions from the poor American tax-payers. IT never gives, it only knows how to take.YOU MISERS.Thief Bernard Ma-doff,Lehman Brothers and Bergman's are all rotten Jews.Please don't equal yourself with real American Christians.We hate you and we know your crimes against the Palestinians................the real owners of today's ISRAEL.
@TruthPowerful1 wow...for starters you consider yourself a christian? secondly, career welfare recipients take billions more from us than israel ever will...and as for the owners of israel, are you muslim? do you support terrorism? your clearly racist and you know nothing about "real Christian Americans"...
"1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates another brother or sister is really a murderer at heart. And you know that murderers don't have eternal life within them."
It doesn't matter where the border lines are drawn, Palestines' charter of hate calls for the destruction of Israel, period. Signing 'piece' treaties was the method the old fox Arafat deployed until it became evident he was simply trying to nibble the Jewish state down to nothing. Remember it was him who coined the clever double-entendre, 'destruction of Israel 'peace by peace'...Wake up and smell the coffee, people, it's burning....
No, Israel should dump the USA. Obama is clearly an uneducated idiot. Those 1967 borders were indefensible and unusable. Go educate yourself and then base your opinion on facts.
@TheMostSublime It's the international law.The 1967 borders are the only legal borders.The safety of Israel should be garanteed by Nato and Israel allies.You can not take somebody elses land just because you want.
Mark my words, Obama TODAY ON 5/20/2011 will back peddle so fast on this (very true and fair) statement about the 1967 Borders. It will make Deion Sanders jealous! The Jewish community will make sure of it!
9/11 happened because of the US's one-sided support of Israel to the detriment of Palestine. If the US doesn't mend her fences with her former allies in the Middle East and start playing fair, it's going to happen again.
You know what is funny, America the number one Western Country that commits the most human rights violations is the one who gets to dictate what is write or wrong. America is currently involved in 8 ongoing wars. Has 761bases not counting Iraq and Afghanistan, or the secret ones in countries other the USA. And is in occupation of Native Indian land in North America. How can the USA say don't take land (which Jews are the actual natives) away from people who have the whole middle east already.
Even assuming that you are correct, that it is hypocritical for the U.S. to tell Israel to pull off land that Israel is illegally occupying, that still does not change the fact that Israel is illegally occupying land. Your argument is moot because the rest of the world agrees with America, and in fact wants Israel to give up more than what America is proposing. So what do you say to Europe and the rest of the World who says Israel should pull back to 67 borders? Go to Hell?
@Plato86 I say to the rest of the world, borders are made by wars. Each and every one of you live in a country whose borders were drawn by the sword. Why are Jews not able to share this same luxury? Why are the Jews always second class? Why Is Germany still allowed to be a country after it attacked all of you?
Israel is continuously attacked by aggressor nations, it has consistently won each and every battle yet she gives back the land in hopes of "land for peace," which no longer has merit.
Do you seriously believe your own argument? In the modern world a nation gets to keep whatever ground it takes in war? So if by some miracle the Palestinians were able to take back the land that they lost in 67 and more that would be perfectly fine with you? I doubt it. International law holds that after a conflict is over there is to be a transition and the occupying force is to return the land to the original inhabitants. This is the reason why German and Japan were allowed to become nations.
Under President Obama, the 1967 lines have become a reference point for the peace process again. President Bush made clear in his 2004 letter to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon that "it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949".
Israel's right to defensible borders must replace the 1967 lines, it has strong foundation in international law and in the past policies of the UN Security Council.
It is increasingly assumed that there was a recognized international border between the West Bank and Israel in 1967 and what is necessary now is to restore it. Yet this entire discussion is based on a completely distorted understanding of the 1967 line, given the fact that in the West Bank it was not an international border at all. The temporary 1967 green line is solely where Israeli and Arab forces stopped at the end of the War of Independence, with some added adjustments in certain sectors.
I'm not a muslim or a christian, but its clear to see that Israel is the aggressor here and I agree that the UN should be sent in to make them comply. Enough is enough it's time to change the future and for America to stop pussy footing around with them. Big deal if they take their money elsewhere, America will adapt and leave them behind.
netanyahu is a fucking ugly warmonger, a peace rejectionist, a law-rejectionist, a UN-resolution-rejectionist, he got nukes and have threatened to use them, he refuse to stop illegal blockade, occupation, settlements, wall, annexation. israel is indeed the biggest threat to world peace, in fact the apartheid is worse than in the South african state. this man must be stopped before he starts another bloody war. DOWN WITH ISRAEL!
After the Six-Day War, the architects of UN Security Council Resolution 242 insisted that the old armistice line had to be replaced with a new border. Thus Lord Caradon, the British ambassador to the UN admitted at the time: "I know the 1967 border very well. It is not a satisfactory border, it is where the troops had to stop." He concluded: "it is not a permanent border."
It was noteworthy that on May 31, 1967, the Jordanian ambassador to the UN made this very point to the UN Security Council just days before the Six-Day War, by stressing that the old armistice agreement "did not fix boundaries".
In fact, Article II of the Armistice with the Jordanians explicitly specified that the agreement did not compromise any future territorial claims of the parties, since it had been "dictated by exclusively by military considerations." In other words, the old Armistice Line was not a recognized international border. It had no finality.
Formally, the 1967 line in the West Bank should properly be called the 1949 Armistice Line. Looking back to that period, on the Egyptian and Syrian fronts there had been a history of international boundaries between British Mandate and its neighbors. But along the Jordanian front what created the armistice line was solely where Israeli and Arab forces stopped at the end of the War of Independence, with some added adjustments in certain sectors. Really only a temporary military line.
Its irresponsible to even entertain the idea of the 1967 green line due to security reasons. Israel must control the Jordan Valley. The Jordan Rift Valley on the east forms a natural barrier between Israel and the countries of Jordan, Iraq and Iran. It rises from 1,200 feet below sea level to a height of 3,000 feet above, creating a steep virtual wall opposite any force attacking from the east. PA control of the mountains region means Jerusalem and most spots in Israel would be in rocket range.
I am proud that Obama had the courage and moral integrity to call for a return to the 1967 borders. The 67 borders are the only legitimate dividing line between Israel and a would be Palestinian state. Granting Israel any more territory would just be continuing occupation. What I did not like about Obama's speech was his attempt to discourage the Palestinians' from appealing to the U.N. for recognition of their state and isolation of Israel.
@Plato86 1967 borders are security threat to Israel as the country would be narrow making it harder to defend. Not to mention that it would divide Jerusalem what the Israelis consider their undivided capital. This is nothing more than political ploy to win the liberal vote in 2012 American presidential elections. He said something about 1967 borders previously only to start talking about Israel's security. He's flip flopping like Kerry.
@Plato86 - Those are my thoughts, too. Netanyahu has no intention of ceding one inch of land that Israel has stolen from her neighbors. This will end badly for Israel. G
Zionists have been screeching for Palestinians to recognize 78% of their original home as racially Jewish against all of their refugee's and descendants while 3.5+ million are still being occupied, but Zionists absolutely REFUSE to recognize the 22% leftover as a faint guide to a mangled Palestine!
OBAMA you have no right to dictate to Israel what land they need to give up! Keep you freaking nose out of Israel's business because it appears to me you are no friend to the Jewish nation! You will feel the wrath of God's fury when he returns to pass judgement not only on the Islamic nations but those who were against Israel!
Lets give the southwest back to mexico!!! that would be a great idea...and while we're at it, germany can have austria, and lets put the east coast in control of the royal crown...its only fair...
you people are idiots...israel is our ally... sometimes i think some people need to look at their social security cards to remember that we're american...
@raiderline65 let's not forget to give Alaska back to Russia... it will be theirs soon enough anyways when we have to sell it to pay our debts. then they will strip mine the place and Putin can club all the seals to show how manly he is.
No fall of a nation has ever been more foreseeable or preventable and we are just sitting back and watching it happen.
Appeasing Arabs only insights them further, only infidel death or conversion will stop the violence. kindness is weakness in their eyes.
@TheZachish oh nice.didnt think about that.say goodbye to our oil... its almost like the current administration wants the US to fail and fall into a united government! but thats for psychotic conspiracy theorists and hateful racist rednecks... never mind the barrage of money being spent that is driving us irreparably into debt...or the fact that our president is best buds with open communists and nwo supporters...idk...lets not jump to conclusions though...wouldnt want to hurt the pres. feelings
Good solution? You are a fuckin moron. Obama is shiting a turd as black as he is on our only strong allies in that area. Use your head and realize that obama is a muslim sympathizing bigger.
@MihaiBorcan sadly I think he is serious about it, I think he will be regarded as America's Neville Chamberlain and well on his way to becoming our Nero... he picks and chooses which laws he will enforce, he won't defend the US boarder and every time Netanyahu comes to the US Obama feels the need to give him a bitch slap
Giving land to the Arabs has not stopped the violence any time Israel has done it and it will not work now.
why? because we are infidels and we must convert or die.
The world will not be safe until all nations support all nations.
Enough of this ally stuff! What are we trying to do, anyway, play Survivor and vote other contestants off the island?
eastariel 5 months ago
Mr. Nintinyahu,
I don't think I've spelled your name right yet. Can I just call you Mr. Yahu? It rhymes with Mr. Magoo. Remember him?
Are you fed up with advice yet? I see you don't allow comments on any of your boobtoob sites. So I'll drop a hint here.
How does it feel to be stuck between a rock and a hard place? Do you wish other nations would just mind their own business?
Sorry. Not going to happen.
If you divide Israelestine, you'll never achieve peace with your Palestinian neighbors. Share.
eastariel 5 months ago
thats bullshit, israel should be completely destroyed similar to the 3rd reich. fucking jew pigs think they can get away with genocide.
xdroon3 8 months ago
Wow he is a major idiot.
TheMostSublime 9 months ago
@Yeshulion Zionist Israel only siphons off millions from the poor American tax-payers. IT never gives, it only knows how to take.YOU MISERS.Thief Bernard Ma-doff,Lehman Brothers and Bergman's are all rotten Jews.Please don't equal yourself with real American Christians.We hate you and we know your crimes against the Palestinians................the real owners of today's ISRAEL.
TruthPowerful1 9 months ago
@TruthPowerful1 wow...for starters you consider yourself a christian? secondly, career welfare recipients take billions more from us than israel ever will...and as for the owners of israel, are you muslim? do you support terrorism? your clearly racist and you know nothing about "real Christian Americans"...
"1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates another brother or sister is really a murderer at heart. And you know that murderers don't have eternal life within them."
raiderline65 9 months ago
It doesn't matter where the border lines are drawn, Palestines' charter of hate calls for the destruction of Israel, period. Signing 'piece' treaties was the method the old fox Arafat deployed until it became evident he was simply trying to nibble the Jewish state down to nothing. Remember it was him who coined the clever double-entendre, 'destruction of Israel 'peace by peace'...Wake up and smell the coffee, people, it's burning....
sirql8 9 months ago
USA dump Israel
Paintballerfromhell1 9 months ago
@Paintballerfromhell1
No, Israel should dump the USA. Obama is clearly an uneducated idiot. Those 1967 borders were indefensible and unusable. Go educate yourself and then base your opinion on facts.
TheMostSublime 9 months ago
@TheMostSublime It's the international law.The 1967 borders are the only legal borders.The safety of Israel should be garanteed by Nato and Israel allies.You can not take somebody elses land just because you want.
Paintballerfromhell1 9 months ago
@TheMostSublime And do you have to insault me.I'm just expressing my opinion.And my opinion is based on international law.
Paintballerfromhell1 9 months ago
@Paintballerfromhell1
Your opinion is based on idiocy.
TheMostSublime 9 months ago
@TheMostSublime Again.no arguments but insaults.Real face of Zionism.
Paintballerfromhell1 9 months ago
@Paintballerfromhell1 lol...why? your a jackass
raiderline65 9 months ago
Why American Govt care about other country rather than own country..
There 14% below poverty line in USA
crazy3641 9 months ago
Mark my words, Obama TODAY ON 5/20/2011 will back peddle so fast on this (very true and fair) statement about the 1967 Borders. It will make Deion Sanders jealous! The Jewish community will make sure of it!
drbayoms 9 months ago
9/11 happened because of the US's one-sided support of Israel to the detriment of Palestine. If the US doesn't mend her fences with her former allies in the Middle East and start playing fair, it's going to happen again.
dyad2r1 9 months ago
Obama's wrong on 99% of everything, but he's right on this one. I'm glad he's sticking to his guns.
dyad2r1 9 months ago
At the end of the day it's an arab dispute with all jews being descended from arabs and africans.
ktrout17I 9 months ago
You know what is funny, America the number one Western Country that commits the most human rights violations is the one who gets to dictate what is write or wrong. America is currently involved in 8 ongoing wars. Has 761bases not counting Iraq and Afghanistan, or the secret ones in countries other the USA. And is in occupation of Native Indian land in North America. How can the USA say don't take land (which Jews are the actual natives) away from people who have the whole middle east already.
joabl 9 months ago
Even assuming that you are correct, that it is hypocritical for the U.S. to tell Israel to pull off land that Israel is illegally occupying, that still does not change the fact that Israel is illegally occupying land. Your argument is moot because the rest of the world agrees with America, and in fact wants Israel to give up more than what America is proposing. So what do you say to Europe and the rest of the World who says Israel should pull back to 67 borders? Go to Hell?
Plato86 9 months ago
@Plato86 I say to the rest of the world, borders are made by wars. Each and every one of you live in a country whose borders were drawn by the sword. Why are Jews not able to share this same luxury? Why are the Jews always second class? Why Is Germany still allowed to be a country after it attacked all of you?
Israel is continuously attacked by aggressor nations, it has consistently won each and every battle yet she gives back the land in hopes of "land for peace," which no longer has merit.
joabl 9 months ago
Do you seriously believe your own argument? In the modern world a nation gets to keep whatever ground it takes in war? So if by some miracle the Palestinians were able to take back the land that they lost in 67 and more that would be perfectly fine with you? I doubt it. International law holds that after a conflict is over there is to be a transition and the occupying force is to return the land to the original inhabitants. This is the reason why German and Japan were allowed to become nations.
Plato86 9 months ago
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joabl 9 months ago
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joabl 9 months ago
Under President Obama, the 1967 lines have become a reference point for the peace process again. President Bush made clear in his 2004 letter to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon that "it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949".
Israel's right to defensible borders must replace the 1967 lines, it has strong foundation in international law and in the past policies of the UN Security Council.
joabl 9 months ago
It is increasingly assumed that there was a recognized international border between the West Bank and Israel in 1967 and what is necessary now is to restore it. Yet this entire discussion is based on a completely distorted understanding of the 1967 line, given the fact that in the West Bank it was not an international border at all. The temporary 1967 green line is solely where Israeli and Arab forces stopped at the end of the War of Independence, with some added adjustments in certain sectors.
joabl 9 months ago
I'm not a muslim or a christian, but its clear to see that Israel is the aggressor here and I agree that the UN should be sent in to make them comply. Enough is enough it's time to change the future and for America to stop pussy footing around with them. Big deal if they take their money elsewhere, America will adapt and leave them behind.
ktrout17I 9 months ago
Israel commits mass murder. See: "youtube israeli soldier tells about the mass murder in gaza"
dyad2r1 9 months ago
Zionists don't want borders. They want to possess every inch of the entire Middle East.
dyad2r1 9 months ago
Memo to Netanyahu: God is not mocked.
dyad2r1 9 months ago
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netanyahu is a fucking ugly warmonger, a peace rejectionist, a law-rejectionist, a UN-resolution-rejectionist, he got nukes and have threatened to use them, he refuse to stop illegal blockade, occupation, settlements, wall, annexation. israel is indeed the biggest threat to world peace, in fact the apartheid is worse than in the South african state. this man must be stopped before he starts another bloody war. DOWN WITH ISRAEL!
antekification 9 months ago
@antekification
The Israel-Palestine conflict should be handled by the UN and NATO forces. It's their job, not the US's..
dyad2r1 9 months ago
@dyad2r1 exactly, US is a biased arbter that havent made any substantial progess ever.
antekification 9 months ago
Obama won't last long, right or wrong he's crossed an imaginary line in the sand. This is very scary timing.
chewbaca1989 9 months ago
After the Six-Day War, the architects of UN Security Council Resolution 242 insisted that the old armistice line had to be replaced with a new border. Thus Lord Caradon, the British ambassador to the UN admitted at the time: "I know the 1967 border very well. It is not a satisfactory border, it is where the troops had to stop." He concluded: "it is not a permanent border."
joabl 9 months ago
It was noteworthy that on May 31, 1967, the Jordanian ambassador to the UN made this very point to the UN Security Council just days before the Six-Day War, by stressing that the old armistice agreement "did not fix boundaries".
joabl 9 months ago
In fact, Article II of the Armistice with the Jordanians explicitly specified that the agreement did not compromise any future territorial claims of the parties, since it had been "dictated by exclusively by military considerations." In other words, the old Armistice Line was not a recognized international border. It had no finality.
joabl 9 months ago
Formally, the 1967 line in the West Bank should properly be called the 1949 Armistice Line. Looking back to that period, on the Egyptian and Syrian fronts there had been a history of international boundaries between British Mandate and its neighbors. But along the Jordanian front what created the armistice line was solely where Israeli and Arab forces stopped at the end of the War of Independence, with some added adjustments in certain sectors. Really only a temporary military line.
joabl 9 months ago
Its irresponsible to even entertain the idea of the 1967 green line due to security reasons. Israel must control the Jordan Valley. The Jordan Rift Valley on the east forms a natural barrier between Israel and the countries of Jordan, Iraq and Iran. It rises from 1,200 feet below sea level to a height of 3,000 feet above, creating a steep virtual wall opposite any force attacking from the east. PA control of the mountains region means Jerusalem and most spots in Israel would be in rocket range.
joabl 9 months ago
Actually Isreal is the true Jewish homeland. Jesus was born in Bethlehem, not Tehran, and that was a long time before there were any muslims.
earlyhemibill 9 months ago
I am proud that Obama had the courage and moral integrity to call for a return to the 1967 borders. The 67 borders are the only legitimate dividing line between Israel and a would be Palestinian state. Granting Israel any more territory would just be continuing occupation. What I did not like about Obama's speech was his attempt to discourage the Palestinians' from appealing to the U.N. for recognition of their state and isolation of Israel.
Plato86 9 months ago
@Plato86 1967 borders are security threat to Israel as the country would be narrow making it harder to defend. Not to mention that it would divide Jerusalem what the Israelis consider their undivided capital. This is nothing more than political ploy to win the liberal vote in 2012 American presidential elections. He said something about 1967 borders previously only to start talking about Israel's security. He's flip flopping like Kerry.
dhilrukshan 9 months ago
@Plato86 - Those are my thoughts, too. Netanyahu has no intention of ceding one inch of land that Israel has stolen from her neighbors. This will end badly for Israel. G
dyad2r1 9 months ago
Obama is an ass
BigStev44 9 months ago 2
Zionists have been screeching for Palestinians to recognize 78% of their original home as racially Jewish against all of their refugee's and descendants while 3.5+ million are still being occupied, but Zionists absolutely REFUSE to recognize the 22% leftover as a faint guide to a mangled Palestine!
qwertypoiu4321 9 months ago
OBAMA you have no right to dictate to Israel what land they need to give up! Keep you freaking nose out of Israel's business because it appears to me you are no friend to the Jewish nation! You will feel the wrath of God's fury when he returns to pass judgement not only on the Islamic nations but those who were against Israel!
ChristianHamOperator 9 months ago 2
He must know he has no chance for a second term ,,,Watch the Joos distroy him !
zeno57 9 months ago
Lets give the southwest back to mexico!!! that would be a great idea...and while we're at it, germany can have austria, and lets put the east coast in control of the royal crown...its only fair...
you people are idiots...israel is our ally... sometimes i think some people need to look at their social security cards to remember that we're american...
raiderline65 9 months ago
@raiderline65 let's not forget to give Alaska back to Russia... it will be theirs soon enough anyways when we have to sell it to pay our debts. then they will strip mine the place and Putin can club all the seals to show how manly he is.
No fall of a nation has ever been more foreseeable or preventable and we are just sitting back and watching it happen.
Appeasing Arabs only insights them further, only infidel death or conversion will stop the violence. kindness is weakness in their eyes.
TheZachish 9 months ago
@TheZachish oh nice.didnt think about that.say goodbye to our oil... its almost like the current administration wants the US to fail and fall into a united government! but thats for psychotic conspiracy theorists and hateful racist rednecks... never mind the barrage of money being spent that is driving us irreparably into debt...or the fact that our president is best buds with open communists and nwo supporters...idk...lets not jump to conclusions though...wouldnt want to hurt the pres. feelings
raiderline65 9 months ago
Good solution? You are a fuckin moron. Obama is shiting a turd as black as he is on our only strong allies in that area. Use your head and realize that obama is a muslim sympathizing bigger.
kenziebrax 9 months ago
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freedom44ify 9 months ago
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SpandyAndyDotCom 9 months ago
Cmon cmon cmon. This is Obama whose saying this. You know hes not serious about it.
MihaiBorcan 9 months ago
@MihaiBorcan sadly I think he is serious about it, I think he will be regarded as America's Neville Chamberlain and well on his way to becoming our Nero... he picks and chooses which laws he will enforce, he won't defend the US boarder and every time Netanyahu comes to the US Obama feels the need to give him a bitch slap
Giving land to the Arabs has not stopped the violence any time Israel has done it and it will not work now.
why? because we are infidels and we must convert or die.
TheZachish 9 months ago
I wish this was serious.
RoundDaFur 9 months ago