We use DAB+ digital radio here in Australia and there are a number of DAB+ radios that can also connect to the web and play internet radio stations, yet I've not seen on YouTube or on the HD Radio website any dedicated hardware receivers that can also receive internet radio stations via Wi-Fi, are you aware of any such HD/IBOC radio receivers that can do this?
@mattluvsvox921 Even if you have a digital receiver connected to a digital amplifier via digital cables you're still listening to analogue because we hear in analogue, our brains process analogue sound only, the equipment converts digital signals to analogue, the speakers produce sound in analogue. How can using the digital outputs on the receiver improve the sound quality when the sound quality on HD radio isn't any good anyway?
@mattluvsvox921 fuck optical, fuck digital audio. that's where audio technology is regressed as far as the fidelity of sound is concerned. modern receivers are made of garbage, therefore you'd be feeding garbage from the HD radio into a garbage receiver. guess what comes out of those speakers. garbage, lol. also, it's not analog composite....it's analog RCA.......composite is video. you realize that analog is better too....any real audiophile will tell you that.
your hearing the same quality sound because you hooked it up to a 40 year old reviver with analog composite cables... try using the digital coax or toslink connection with a receiver that supports it... i guarantee it will sound a lot better.
@RexTheCyberdog How can using the digital connections on the back of the receiver make a difference to the sound quality? If you use good quality analogue cables and a good amplifier and good speakers you'll get very good sound quality from analogue sources, particular records and FM radio.
@RexTheCyberdog Besides, if you use the digital connections and you're listening to a radio station that doesn't broadcast in HD Radio, what do you hear? Does the receiver convert analogue signals to digital for the digital outputs?
Is that the same HD radio tuner that Vwestlife used in his video demonstration where an electric water pump of sorts was causing no end of interference to the signal and taking it out? HD radio is really not getting all the positive feedback the people behind it want it to, in some respects I'm glad we don't have HD radio in Australia, we're using DAB+, in my opinion it sounds far better than AM but no better than FM, it sounds currently like a low quality MP3 file.
HD radio in the car is worse because you are moving causing the signal to move up and down to a point where it just totally goes away. I don't understand why your saying it's bad in the home. I assume your using an FM outside antenna.
HD Radio is shit in homes AND cars (I made the mistake of dessecrating my '78 vette by putting a JVC HDR-1 in the dash (already was setup for a 1-DIN)). HD and anything else digital sounds like shit... major waste of cash mate, MAJOR waste... oh, on the GODD side, some HD radios do Stereo AM...
@Sansui350A The warble is just the beginning! Listening to it in the car is totally annoying. It constantly shifts from HD to analog where the analog is more prevalent. Another interesting point, HD uses the two sides of the main frequency ( for example lets say HD on 103.5 mhz. any station that would have been heard on 103.3 or 103.7 will be gone) all you will hear is a loud hiss on the upper and lower frequencies. Try it you'll see!
@Sansui350A it seems so. digital radio in general just sounds like crap unless it's a pretty good quality internet radio station which is still a little "kbps-y", lol. AM radio is pretty useless in my area. we have no stations i can get reception from around here, none. so i rely on FM, internet radio stations, and Pandora sometimes.
Maybe you bought the one I returned! The FM reception is acceptable, but the tuner purposesly dulls down the analog FM treble response in order to make the digital sound better; compare it to a good quality analog-only tuner and you'll hear the difference. The AM tuner is a complete joke -- hissy, crackly, and horrible sensitivity. And HD reception in a car is even worse; the digital signal is constantly cutting out and dropping back to analog, causing an annoying phasing effect.
@vwestlife the tinny sound/distortion in the upper frequencies of the sound is what did it in for me. internet radio has it beat by far i think. AM in my area is non-existant :P. we have no stations around here, but you go to the south and there are TONS of em, lol. HD radio still has kinks that need to be worked out. the idea is great on paper, but it still needs improvement.
@lmull3 They've been "improving" HD Radio since it was introduced in 2002, and it has a bleak future, to say the least. Most stations simulcast their "HD" channels on the Internet anyway, so an Internet radio definitely is a more useful investment.
@vwestlife sounds like they got it right with FM in the first place. FM Stereo in 1962. that was during the golden age of hi-fi, so, i'm inclined to think that's where radio should stay in addition to internet radio.
We use DAB+ digital radio here in Australia and there are a number of DAB+ radios that can also connect to the web and play internet radio stations, yet I've not seen on YouTube or on the HD Radio website any dedicated hardware receivers that can also receive internet radio stations via Wi-Fi, are you aware of any such HD/IBOC radio receivers that can do this?
Lachlant1984 1 month ago
for some reason on AM mine sounds tinny and horribly distorted.
Aviator14 5 months ago
It looks like they copied insignia NS-HDTUNE design
Aviator14 6 months ago
I've noticed on my Insignia portable HD Radio. That the HD signals seem to have a bit more bass response vs analog.
xmaddictstechnstuff 6 months ago
@mattluvsvox921 Even if you have a digital receiver connected to a digital amplifier via digital cables you're still listening to analogue because we hear in analogue, our brains process analogue sound only, the equipment converts digital signals to analogue, the speakers produce sound in analogue. How can using the digital outputs on the receiver improve the sound quality when the sound quality on HD radio isn't any good anyway?
Lachlant1984 8 months ago
@mattluvsvox921 fuck optical, fuck digital audio. that's where audio technology is regressed as far as the fidelity of sound is concerned. modern receivers are made of garbage, therefore you'd be feeding garbage from the HD radio into a garbage receiver. guess what comes out of those speakers. garbage, lol. also, it's not analog composite....it's analog RCA.......composite is video. you realize that analog is better too....any real audiophile will tell you that.
lmull3 10 months ago
your hearing the same quality sound because you hooked it up to a 40 year old reviver with analog composite cables... try using the digital coax or toslink connection with a receiver that supports it... i guarantee it will sound a lot better.
RexTheCyberdog 10 months ago
@RexTheCyberdog How can using the digital connections on the back of the receiver make a difference to the sound quality? If you use good quality analogue cables and a good amplifier and good speakers you'll get very good sound quality from analogue sources, particular records and FM radio.
Lachlant1984 8 months ago
@RexTheCyberdog Besides, if you use the digital connections and you're listening to a radio station that doesn't broadcast in HD Radio, what do you hear? Does the receiver convert analogue signals to digital for the digital outputs?
Lachlant1984 8 months ago
Is that the same HD radio tuner that Vwestlife used in his video demonstration where an electric water pump of sorts was causing no end of interference to the signal and taking it out? HD radio is really not getting all the positive feedback the people behind it want it to, in some respects I'm glad we don't have HD radio in Australia, we're using DAB+, in my opinion it sounds far better than AM but no better than FM, it sounds currently like a low quality MP3 file.
Lachlant1984 1 year ago
HD radio in the car is worse because you are moving causing the signal to move up and down to a point where it just totally goes away. I don't understand why your saying it's bad in the home. I assume your using an FM outside antenna.
frank1033fm 1 year ago
HD Radio is shit in homes AND cars (I made the mistake of dessecrating my '78 vette by putting a JVC HDR-1 in the dash (already was setup for a 1-DIN)). HD and anything else digital sounds like shit... major waste of cash mate, MAJOR waste... oh, on the GODD side, some HD radios do Stereo AM...
Sansui350A 1 year ago
@Sansui350A also, the sound from HD seems to have a "warble" to it... sounds like shit
Sansui350A 1 year ago
@Sansui350A this makes me wonder what Dolby FM sounded like, lol
lmull3 1 year ago
@Sansui350A I agree HD radio is a waste of money. I love going down the road listening to it go from HD to analog.
frank1033fm 1 year ago
@Sansui350A The warble is just the beginning! Listening to it in the car is totally annoying. It constantly shifts from HD to analog where the analog is more prevalent. Another interesting point, HD uses the two sides of the main frequency ( for example lets say HD on 103.5 mhz. any station that would have been heard on 103.3 or 103.7 will be gone) all you will hear is a loud hiss on the upper and lower frequencies. Try it you'll see!
frank1033fm 1 year ago
@Sansui350A it seems so. digital radio in general just sounds like crap unless it's a pretty good quality internet radio station which is still a little "kbps-y", lol. AM radio is pretty useless in my area. we have no stations i can get reception from around here, none. so i rely on FM, internet radio stations, and Pandora sometimes.
lmull3 1 year ago
Maybe you bought the one I returned! The FM reception is acceptable, but the tuner purposesly dulls down the analog FM treble response in order to make the digital sound better; compare it to a good quality analog-only tuner and you'll hear the difference. The AM tuner is a complete joke -- hissy, crackly, and horrible sensitivity. And HD reception in a car is even worse; the digital signal is constantly cutting out and dropping back to analog, causing an annoying phasing effect.
vwestlife 1 year ago
@vwestlife the tinny sound/distortion in the upper frequencies of the sound is what did it in for me. internet radio has it beat by far i think. AM in my area is non-existant :P. we have no stations around here, but you go to the south and there are TONS of em, lol. HD radio still has kinks that need to be worked out. the idea is great on paper, but it still needs improvement.
lmull3 1 year ago
@lmull3 They've been "improving" HD Radio since it was introduced in 2002, and it has a bleak future, to say the least. Most stations simulcast their "HD" channels on the Internet anyway, so an Internet radio definitely is a more useful investment.
vwestlife 1 year ago
@vwestlife sounds like they got it right with FM in the first place. FM Stereo in 1962. that was during the golden age of hi-fi, so, i'm inclined to think that's where radio should stay in addition to internet radio.
lmull3 1 year ago