I do not believe that the twin towers were were brought down by controlled demo,it was gone in under 10 sec, thats 11 storys every second,if you watch videos of it which I`m sure most of you have,you can see it turn to dust right before your eyes.I`m not aware of any explosives that can turn whole floors of concrete and steel to dust that fast.
After all the dust went away where was all the steel and concrete [the debris].There was more mass to the towers than was on the ground.
If you come to me looking for a job as a nine eleven denier I will be happy to consider your application.
However, unless you can back up your claims I will feel rightly justified in rejectiing your application on the grounds that you are willing to entertain fantasy in the light of no evidence whatsoever.
Wow look at these two guys below me lol. It's a battle of the wits in peak form! Who will make the best general insult without knowing anything about the other?
I'm not from America and I could not careless what people from America thinks, but I would just like to comment that you conspiracy theorists and believers of those stuff are dumb idiots! LOL! How can people believe things like this? Some even believe that the Moon Landing was a hoax? Maybe WWII was a big setup also for whatever reason! ROFL!
You are not normal. I study civil engineering. there is a study called material strength. it is just impossible to take that building down buy fire, plain crash. maybe earthquake with mark 8 could and then it would not fall down like that! please go back to school and start to study.
IT show how stupid you are, science does not lie. Science can down to molecularly, by chemicla reactions and physics, prove that it is not possible for those buildings to collaps.. ..+thermite was found in dust after collaps.+Thermite - Most varieties are not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures.PLAIN FUEL doesn burn hot enough to weaken steal! Sorry about your braindamage, get better and then give your advice proving it scientificaly, not emotionaly!
@RolandsSmoked Wow what big words you've used to prove to yourself that those two buildings were actually destroyed through a planned demolition by your OWN government and really wanted that to be an excuse to attack Iraq, oh yeah tell that to the families of those 2,900+ victims that died day, and to those people who was in the plane that hit those two buildings... Oh you're so smart dear sir!!! I can't believe I missed that fact, maybe because I am brain damaged and refuse to accept reality?
didnt matter where the planes were gonna hitthe explosives were found and that all that matters building fell down like dominos from thermite. why the fuk would there be traces of military grade explosive in the dust of world trade centers ?????????????are u stoopid or u just beleave the goverment lies. realy wake the f up
For an excellant video review & related commentary, check-out Jon Cole's recent post "9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate" on youtube and/or 911blogger(dot)com; Nat. Geo's absurd 'experiment' disproving viability of thermite to cut steel is shown to be a nonsensical farce, designed to fail; NIST's failure to test for explosive despite abundant eyewitness, video & byproduct evidence is inexplicable EXCEPT as intentional fraud. Only 2% sulpher making thermate GREATLY increases efficiency.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor and printing it without her approval?
How can Marvin Bush be in charge of WTC security when he stopped working for Securecom in June of 2000?
If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
@ctcole77 ...the point that you're missing is that "911 truthers" want these questions to be asked as well. They want to know what really happened. Just because you think you've identified 3 questions that are worth asking, does not make all of the other evidence go away. A real investigation would look at all of the info, and your questions would hopefully get answered as well. Stop focusing on "truthers" and start focusing on the facts.
IDIOTS OUT THERE!!! That say explosives/thermite wasnt used. Answer this How does a buiding fall in 7 sec? how does all the remains turn to dust and ash? How does jetfuel reach 2700F when it only reaches 1500F and steel melts at 2700F? How come there was hot moltan meltal weeks and months after the collapse?How come there has never been a building collaspe built of steel from fire or plane? The only buildings that have collapsed do to fire or "plane" are the trade towers and building 7.Wakeup!
the only ppl who knows if 9/11 was controlled demolition are NYers. ppl who were in the building during the "crash/explosion" whatever u want to call it. they could tell if something below them exploded or if a plane above crashed. or both which is also possible
this guy is liying they never found any thermate on the steel attal jones apparntley found thermate stuff in the dust from 911 but wheres that proof wheres the evidence ? show me the test results do a fucking test on camera or somthing ? no evidence no explosions simple as that
@robbierealist Wow! Were YOU there? Are YOU a professional in this field? Are YOU an expert? Do YOU understand the consequences of bearing false witness? Where is the evidence for true Americans to diligently sift through and complete a thorough investigation "on camera or somthing" as you stated? In the end there is only one TRUTH. I've learned to ask many questions before laying judgement.
Try this on for size.
It's better to appear a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
@robbierealist Good point, except Jones never even found thermate in the dust. What they said they found were the chemical signatures of a thermate reaction; various chemicals found in thermate. Problem is those chemicals can be the by products of lost of other stuff, none of it being thermate. Other problem is that what was found was not in the signature quantities/ratios of thermate. DRGriffin is as much of an idiot as Barrett.
I need a scientifically sound explaination of all 3 building collapse that does not lead to controlled demolition 'theory'. Til then i guess I am just a nut job conspiracy theorist that asks logical questions.
The highest point at which jet fuel burns is 1800 degrees F*. Steel begins to weaken at at 2800 degrees F*. This is why fire does not melt steel!
The black smoke from the towers indicates that the jet fuel was oxgyen deprived meaning the max heat capacity in the towers was only about 500 degrees F*.
All I really need to convince me that the official story is bullshit:
Not the physics of the building collapes...
Not the chemical evidence of thermite...
Not the pathetic cover-up...
Not the overwhelming financial and political gains made by the few...
...
Just that Fox News is so maniacly, foaming-at-the-mouth, rabidly defensive of the official story and so derisive to anyone unconvinced by it. Anything spouted on Fox News, you can guarantee is right-wing propaganda. without exception.
I SEE COMMENTS FROM JUST MONTHS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OVER 5 YEARS AGO 9-11 AND I RESPECT THOSE WHO STILL PAY INTEREST IN THE 9-11 INCIDENT DON'T LET THE GOVERNMENT LEAD YOU A STRAY
If you read the passenger lists and investigate, you will find that something is definitely wrong. Some of the people allegedly on board those planes the government would not mind if they went away. Such as a former admiral scapegoat for the tail hook scandal. Who was an Honorable man with an amazing record.
How about it NaciremaRiorepus...Did you forget to tell everyone WHy your beloved SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 Truth group SPLIT IN TWO. Why did that happen......Oh yeah....I remember why you now have 2 9/11 Scholars groups......the original one spilt because around half the members supported the "Death Ray from Space took down the towers,,,and mini Nukes helped too"... VS the NANO THERMITE MELTED THE BUILDING Scholars.....LOL.....its like a retard convention everyday at the Truther households..LOL
Firefighters....really.....hmmmmm.....lets examine that.....why is it then,,If its so obvious as you say......that NOT ONE FDNY FIREFIGHTER IS A MEMEBER OF THE Firefighters for 9/11 truth movement. HUH...all you have is a view Volunteer losers from Jersey....LOL....how come you cant get a single paper published in a respected PEER REVIEWED journal if its SOOO obvious like you say..how come you dont have ANY RESPECTED structural engineers in your scholars group..OH I forgot. JUDY DEATH RAY WOODS
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO HAVE HAD COLLAPSED WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES. PERIOD. Debris? Are you high? You obviously don't know anything about structural engineering and the laws of physics.
Stephen2152002: That's the problem. Many of the shills that voice the "truthers are kooks" position apparently do not understand basic laws of physics or they would not make an ass out of themselves (like JPPolochek) . I have a video up on Bldg. 7 you might find interesting.
the real 'truth' is actually more interesting, a lot more complex and actually useful to society.
Alex jones is a douchebag
dylan avery is a douchebag
jason bermas is a douchebag it did look like explosives but a tranny looks like a woman but is still a man, you know why,.. because EVIDENCE of her chromosomes would tell you so. I.e. dont judge a book by its cover.
@antischapp, I couldn't agree more. It's 2010, we know its an inside job. We're still in a war and the we, the American People still are doing nothing about this. I wish we could do something
Look what happened to Dan Rather & Rosie O'Donnell.
Rather's was the only voice that day reporting what he was seeking with his own eyes, as WTC7 went straight down. "Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time today..." Sans-teleprompter he voiced what he saw with his own eyes. As it happened.
Next thing you know a Miss Lewinsky bit him the ass - an excuse to get him silenced.
This "Univ of Holland" thing is actually just the latest version of the thermite claim from Steven Jones & co. The problem is that there's no such thing as paper-thin nano-thermite that can be "painted on" thick structural steel & cause synchronized, precision cuts/explosions. It doesn't exist. That's why you'll find no mention of it anywhere except from 9/11 conspiracy believers. Jones & co. refuse to send their "samples" to independent testing labs. Why?
It was on fire as well...except it did NOT collapse!
And there is plenty - PLENTY! - of technical, photographic, and expert evidence, collected in the days AFTER 9/11, that WTC5 was also about to collapse from the fires alone.
How do the truthers explain that?
The truthers never show the photographic evidence of the interior - INTERIOR! - of WTC5 after - AFTER! - the fires. CT'ists selectively choose to ignore this fact because it is inconsistent with their CT.
There was NO EVIDENCE OF ANY DETONATION CORD OR DETONATION CAPS WHERE USED. This dude is idiot. Hes a jobless loser that has no credible background in Islam studies or Engineering. He is an English major.....English people.....Bring up his wikipedia.
I asked for any video of nano-thermite cutting steel or any nano thermite video at all and you link me a trash "peer reviewed" article and you think I am owned? I will say this 1 more time as I can see you are having trouble. Find me 1 video of nano thermite reacting and doing anything of use and then we will go from there. I say this because nanothermite was only available in tiny amounts labs in 2001. Not commercailly available at all. Good Luck.
Its not my fault you can't read. Read the paper. I dont have to answer your straw man questions. You want proof, there it is. Its up to you to ignore the evidence. Its ok I understand you don;t want to admin youve been defeated. :) Good luck.
Not one time in that entire paper does he ever conclude that he has found nanothermite or thermite. He actually makes up words like "thermatic" material. Thermatic is not a word. You can look it up. When you make up words, you lose scientific credibility. Your still ignoring the fact that, even if this stuff did exist. #1 You cant find enough to take down buildings. #2 If cannot be used to cut through massive steel beams. You dont have to answer questions because you have no answer.
It should also be noted that the samples were held in non sterile conditions by regualar new yorkers SIX YEARS after 9-11. So what did he find in these contaminated examples? Rust and Aluminum. WOW. I bet there was no rust and aluminum in the world trade centers BEFORE they planted all that "thermitic" material in there. Actually its probably just paint being that it looks identical to paint attached to iron. The same red paint that was used while building the WTC towers.
@Timmay123456789 Buildings do NOT fall down like that when hit by debris. It came down completely clean. The only way to do that is by the use of controlled demolition.
How do you explain the diagonal cuts found on some of the supporting beams on both the N and S towers? They were weakened PRIOR to those planes hitting to ensure they'd come down. It was all about covering the evidence.
The guy has a PHd. There are plenty others like him with similar credentials who think something isnt right.
and there are many more people with better credentials who think exactly what we rational people think. Debris strikes building 7, fires rage for hours. Supports fail building collapses.
How can you jump to the conclusion that it was a controlled demolition, when there were clearly no signs of controlled explosives. This is where you guys fail, you jump to conclusions without considering the best explanation.
Uneven fires should have had a collapse that was way more lop-sided.
Thermate dust residue was found at all WTC sites. Similarly with molten iron found in the basement levels--the byproduct of thermate ignition--weeks after the attacks.
Witness statements and a recorded video of a telephone conversation have sounds of closely timed sequence of explosions just prior to collapse.
@Timmay123456789 you do realize the secret service along with other federal agents were not lettting rescuers and construction crews after the collapse into the collapsed and destroyed/burning concourse in the days after the attack right?
you do realize that the debris contained harmful chemical compounds, and prolonged exposure would cause serious and possibly permanent damage to anybody who spent enough time in there right? The government does care about it's people my friend.
@Timmay123456789 the thermite was used to cut tru the steel pillars holding the building you can see it on some of the pictures on groundzero . the thermite was attached diagonaly like this \ and used to weaken the foundation...
And lastly. What does the paper say about what the material was? Was it really nanothermite or maybe just thermite? The paper says they really dont know but it reminded them of nano-thermite. They dont know for sure. Why? Because they had NO SAMPLES OF NANO THERMITE TO COMPARE IT TO. So you "peer reviewed" paper says its not really sure what it is. That sounds pretty conclusive to me. BTW. They published that article behind the back of the editor in chief and she quit right after. Gotta love it.
WTC7 is the best evidence that there was NOT a controlled demolition. Why? This is proved by Steven E Jones. How did he prove this? He proved this by proving that a group of perpetrators had absolutely NO problems by smuggling in, place and set, tons of explosives in WTC1+2 without ever being noticed by 25,000 tenants. Perpetrators who are this attention shy will have NO problems focussing NO attention on themselves by taking any evidence out of WTC7 instead of blowing up WTC7. QED.
there were people in the towers supposedly installing a new security system a few weeks before 9/11...many eye witnesses saw them and wondered what they were doing
we conclude... is unreacted thermitic material...or explosive material.
Me:
Who is the "we"? You mean Harrit? Steven E Jones?
Harrit's paper never was, and still isn't, peer-reviewed by any scientific peer. Not one! Most of the 9 co-authors of his paper have no clue about science. His paper also implies that 1000 tons of explosives was used. The material investigated is also declared to be nanothermite to the exclusion of any other explanation. A hasty conclusion.
Thank you voice of reason. Of all the scholars in the "Scholars for 9-11 Truth" there is 1 in the field of science. I think he is the only acitve engineer. There are roughly 75 of them and they are mostly in the field of English/Fine Arts. They review each others papers and call them "peer reviewed". Yet no credible magazine/paper will publish them.
9 co authors who work at a university in holland have NO idea what they're doing? Well why don't you move to holland and get a job there because since they don't know what they're doing over there you may as well join the club, you'd get laughed at you idiot. ignorant statement. Anyone working at a university besides maybe the janitor knows the scientific method which is their job you dumb fuck.
LOL? "Anyone working at a University". Really? So English teachers know the scientific method? Knesiology teachers? Psych teachers? Philosophy? Get a life bro. Invest your time into something that ISNT complete bullshit.
Yeah The scientific method is pretty common, I learnt about it in high school science class, so I'm sure anyone in university would know. And nano-thermite doesn't 'cut' it more or less explodes as a reaction to heat, if you would look up the chemical properties of nano thermite, you'd know this.
AmericasFan is too stupid to think for himself. He doesn't see the connection between Bush Sr.'s speech on Sept. 11th 1991 on the NWO and the attacks exactly ten years later.
He's not so much a thinker. I bet he thinks Oswald is the one who killed JFK...and that bullets can turn circles in mid-air. He doesn't understand govt-media manipulation...at all
Speaking of that. I have a video that places Bush Sr. In Dallas on that day. He was CIA. It was said that he was one of the shooters basically, Because his alibi was not right places him in three other places that don't add up. All three were his words too.. He was lost on that day.. Killing JFK !! His father helped place Hitler into power financing Nazis.
Why do these conspiracy idiots claim the 9/11 commission report is the official story? Who said it was? The President never has. Neither has any of the board members. It is not the official story you morons. Take your lazy ass and read the reports of professional structural engineers. People who have an idea of what they are talking about.
You're right, AmericasFan. People have NO right to question authority, especially on matters concerning 9/11. Walk the Party Line, is what they should be doing. I'm just wondering... When WILL the "official story" be revealed to the public? What will the gov have to say about it? Is government censorship warranted in this case? Should the 1st Amendment be suspended on this subject?
You have a right to ask questions. But just because the commission report didn't explain the collapses and crash sites doesn't mean shit. None of the board members are experts in the proper fields. Why explain something that they have no knowledge of? Again read the reports of lead investigators and experts. Don't rely on the commission report for all of your accusations.
Oh, I "have the right to ask questions", well thank you very much, Mr. Stalin, but I already knew that. Why was the commission stacked with people that were mere idiots "in their proper fields"? Say what you want, cover-up with your desperate attempts, but we all KNOW now, and we're pissed as hell. Are you the one assigned to squash all debate on this subject? I only need my eyes, and Dr. Jones for my affirmation. Anyone who believes the gov, or guys like you, needs their head examined.
It's obvious that you are too lazy to read the reports of world leading institutions and experts. The only purpose of the commission report is to figure out why the attacks occurred? Thats it. Why so much confusion? Why so much miscommunication? Things of that nature. If you really have evidence of your stupid claims why don't you take your so called evidence to countries that hate the U.S. Because you can't. Because even they will say it's all bullshit. It's you who needs your head examined.
Here we go again; Attack the Messenger! If the commission were to simply determine "why" the attacks occurred, that answer is very simple: To dupe the American public into another damn war. Your smug innuendos make it obvious you're either a poser, or one who is DESPERATELY trying to discredit the truth in this tragedy. Do you work for the MIC? Are you a pro-Zionist type? The cat is out of the bag. There's alot of pissed-off people out there, and they're mad as hell. Go sell your soul.
Typical. Your fantasies are debunked and all you can come up with is that i'm a shill. If I am then i'm still watiting for my first paycheck. You discredit your own theories. You can't even make up your mind if flight 93 landed in Cleveland. Despite saying that you have evidence that it was shot down. Which one is it? You can't have it both ways.
Okay, then you prove to me how the buildings fell straight down after being struck by two comparatively small planes with a comparatively small amount of jet fuel? It's hideous to imagine this as factual! And what about Building #7? I noticed that your so-called "experts" (spin doctors), couldn't, WOULDN'T answer this phenomena. Keep trying to convince us. We'll be laughing all the way until the next government generated disaster strictly designed to install more KGB style bureaucracies.
How else is a building suppose to fall down?Was it suppose to tip over like a tree? If thats what you are expecting than you are living in a fantasy world. All of your questions have answers. You can't look at only conspiracy websites and assume they are right. You have to look at both sides. Thats why we have "google". Try using it for once in your life. Based on your comments I am thoroughly convinced you are too lazy to do research on anything about 9/11.
Again, you're either a shill, or someone that just refuses to see the truth. If even the hand picked 9/11 Commission couldn't explain the collapse of #7, wouldn't that speak volumes? Ever watched a live demolition, or known anyone who demolishes old structures? What about this Prof. Barrett? Or Prof. Jones (BYU)? I suppose they don't know what they're talking about, eh? Do you think these professors, or any educator, should be banned from employment for not walking the "official story"?
No because none of the board members are structural engineers. Why explain something they have no knowledge of? As for Jones and Barrett, are they world leading structural engineers? I have watched a live demolition. And the collapse of the towers didn't sound like one. I have yet to hear a huge amount of really loud bangs.
So, you believe the 9/11 Commission that DID NOT consist of any structural engineers. But, WON'T believe either Barrett, or Jones, which IS a structural engineer. You take the cake! Your desperate attempt to defuse the truth is crumbling. Try harder.
Barrett and Jones are not structural engineers. They have an education in other areas. Jones is a physices guy not a structural engineer guy. It's amazing how his Journal of 911 studies were never reviewed by a panel of experts. Instead it was reviewed by a bunch of people who believe in this buillshit.
Maybe those so-called "panel of experts", or LAPDOGS, would rather keep their government grant monies, or college jobs that don't tolerate freedom of speech, or expression. It's a sad day in America when the principles of the 1st Amendment are abandoned for the lies of influential political groups. I can see where you're coming from now. "The scholars and intellectuals!" dogma! To hell with the LIARS. To hell with all those that SELL OUT for a pittance. We know the truth, and it's not good 4 u
So why don't they take it to France, Iran, or any other country that hates the U.S. and have their experts review it. Why can't you do that? It's amazing that in a world of anti-american media you can't even do that.
Simple. The gov wanted an alibi to find an end-run around the Bill of Rights. The government HATES the Bill of Rights, the Constitution in general, because in their words it "gives the People too much freedom". Now, that's really bad. Too much freedom is BAD. Bush needed an excuse for signing his long sought after E.O. for instituting Martial Law. The big advantage came with the war on Iraq. PRE-EMPTIVE WAR! War is Peace! AIPAC ordered it, DC follows orders from AIPAC. Simple, eh?
And you expect me to only view the establishment's line, and their websites that carry the same lie that "19 Islamic highjackers downed the WTC buildings"? You guys are losing the argument, bigtime. Try as you may to convince the American public otherwise, it will never work. You guys have lost the debate.
That is the funniest thing I have ever read.LMAO. If we lost the debate there would be a worldwide outcry. Demanding Bush's resignation, prosecution, imprisionment, and perhaps even death. When 99% of the experts in the proper fields disagree with all of your fantasies. With so much anti american and anti bush media and press around the world you think they wouldn't jump at the chance to get rid of our idiot of a president.
"If we lost the debate there would be a worldwide outcry. Demanding Bush's resignation, prosecution, imprisionment,". Oh, and just WHOM would prosecute Bush? Another Skull and Bones member? Someone from the D of J? WHOM??? It's a secret insiders CLUB, and the peoples of the world are NOT members of it.
Bush wouldn't be in office. He would've been forced out one way or another. The fact is that you can't even get Iran, one of the U.S. and Bush's worst enemies, to agree with all of your bullshit. People like you are the most paranoid on the planet. You really believe in this NWO bullshit.
"Bush wouldn't be in office.", Please! Bush is a member of the American oligarchy! He wouldn't be FIRED. He does what he wants, when he wants, and what are the People gonna do about it? Go on an attack me with your adolescent verbiage. You do this because you've LOST the debate. You lose, and WE WIN! And I don't have to use name-calling tactics, either. It is YOU that's paranoid now, AmericasFan. Are you worried that the People will be enraged that you lied to them? Shills are shills...
"We win". Thats a good one.LMAO. He doesn't do what he wants. If he did people like you would be dead within a blink of an eye. You are lucky we live in a democracy. Go to Cuba and see if the press and media rip Castro. I havn't lost nothing. Only in your eyes. Conspiracy idiots are conspiracy idiots. Get a girl and some pussy first.
Being a paid "shill" must be boring work, eh? I couldn't care less if they kill me! They killed Christ, didn't they? History repeating itself? We DON'T live in a "democracy". This PROVES your SHILL status in trying to promote false teachings. We have a REPUBLIC! "democracy" doesn't appear in the Constitution. REPUBLIC does! And using fowl words is a common tactic of shills. You're losing the battle, and we're glad!
If we're losing the battle where are the world leaders calling for Bush's arrest or impeachment. Oh wait a minute they are all part of the NWO. I forgot.
I was surprised myself after learning of the many intertwining secret lodges, Fan. There's no doubt that something stinks here, and those responsible are getting nervous.
Thank you YOUTUBE and AMERICA for having the opportunity to express own opinions. Voltaire also would be proud upon you. Everybody has to fight for this fundamental right, also those people who do not share my own opinion!
conspiracy terrorists always see explosives, looool!!!!!!they are against america.
but, easily debunked: at such a spectaculous day you have many reporters and secret agents taking photographs. so everywhere you can see flashlights of their cameras. ...absolutely nothing unusual. damn fucking ....!!!!!
-Sorry, but I've read to much of such stupid BULLSHIT! Fortunately many Americans really love their country and want to know who is really responsible for these crimes!
CD makes noise that you can hear from a long way. I have seen the collapses and I didn't hear any explosive go off. It did not sound like a CD. Second, a CD makes flashes or sparks the sign of an explosive yet the buildings show none what so fucking ever.
You republican retardos and blind believers make fucking sick.Go buy a fucking brain for once.You never doubt the goverment and never ask for an explanation all you need is a big "God bless America!" or "This is America whoo!!" and then you feel happy and satisfied you are like little lumbs in a farm. If you don't dare to think or ask a few questions THEN WHATS THE FUCKING POINT BEING HUMAN BEINGS? sorry i didnt mean to be mean but you people just get me on my nerves.Pls fuck off and die.
Evidently you don't understand how investigations are suppose to be done. First of all it should have started right away, and the "experts " should have been taken samples from ground zero. Not just given a guided tour then taken to a hangar or landfill where the "evidence" they were given could have came from anywhere. Why do you think they rope off a crime scene? Why do they document everything at the site?
since you decided to be patronizing I will be nasty. you are an asshole. you don't understand a thing I said. the Loizeaux's of CDI were onscene 9/12. they weren't given a guided tour of a hanger stupid.they were right at WTC combing the debris for evidence of a cd job. I spoke to them directly & was told it wasn't an implosion.these are the real experts I would listen to instead of your idols Jones,Griffin & all the others who sucker you & get you to buy their tripe.
you say they were there looking for evidence, but nowhere is there any record, pictures or any other confirmation of your statement. It is well documented that investigators complained of being guided thru ground zero and not being able to do their job on site. It is well documented that the first step by our goverment was to "clean up" ground zero and most of the steel was shipped to China.
It is also well known that the Official investigation took over 400 days to start
I know you believe whole heartedly the cters by your saying the steel was sent to China. it wasn't. a lot of the steel is now in the bow of the USS NEW YORK. but I wouldn't expect you to listen to me or to the people of CDI Inc. because you listen to lying assholes. I really don't need to hear any more from an idiot such as yourself.
it was common knowledge and well documented that most of the steel was shipped off to China, even a national magazine for firefighters noted this and said it should never have happened. Why would anybody believe a company who has profited so much from the death of thousands? Hope you can sleep at night and if you really believe this crap, well I do feel sorry for you.
Watch "9/11: blueprint for truth"...the evidence is almost overwhelming, no stone unturned...you call people idiots, yet its YOU who is the idiot...how about you plug a source to your (dis)information, and maybe people will acknowledge your views
what this guy has said in this video is a lie. all this guy went on is the word of Griffin who is a known liar. I was there on 9/11 as a 1st responder, and am a construction worker - I would know it if there was a cd job done. there was no evidence of 1 for any of the 3 buildings.this clown neglected to say a lot of damage was done to the buildings from fire & the planes hitting the 2 towers, the debris hitting the 3rd causing it to fall.
You say he is a liar, but the evidence supports his claimns and proves the goverment's story a lie, who should we believe? I believe scientist like David Griscom and Steven Jones, because they use proper scientific methods to reach their conclusions.
his "evidence" is bullshit. Steven Jones has as well as Griffin to have no background in any of the fields relating to the events of 9/11. they weren't even at Ground Zero when it happened! another thing - they neglected to say that the materials used in the construction could produce the same findings as what they claimed was the remains from explosives. they falsified their findings to support their claims of a cd job. would you rather believe someone who works in construction or a known liar?
Sorry Steven Jones has had his findings confirmed by 3 other independent labs, the sulfur he found was not the sulfur from calcium sulfate found in sheetrock, there was no calcium with it. And having a PhD in Physics does qualify Jones to discuss the physics involved. ae911truth . org has lots of engineers with the experience you think is needed.
Jones has not lied about anything and there is no evidence he lied about anything, his science proves to be solid. David Griscom supports it
Jones has YET to submit his paper for peer review. I also just literally finished reading the paper that may or may not have been written by Griscom & found a major omission in the report. He neglected to say that the impacts of the planes blew the fireproofing off the trusswork supports & the resulting fires weakened them to the point that they failed causing the towers to come down. next time you pass a firehouse, ask a firefighter what this means to them: "don't trust the trusswork".
there is no evidence that the fireproofing was "blown off" the only evidence of fireproofing being knocked off or destroyed was pictures of some areas in impact zone.
Jones paper has been peer reviewed that is well documented. What hasn't been peer reviewed is any of the "official investigations" James Quintiere points this out. Quintiere also points out that investigations were blocked from seeking answers.
Again - JONES HAS YET TO SUBMIT HIS PAPER FOR PEER REVIEW. to be peer reviewed means to be submitted to a recognized journal & from there open to opinions. Jones has yet to do this. you can stick with the bullshit these people are feeding you & I'll stick with actual facts & expert opinions.
you say Jones hasn't had his paper peer reviewed, Jones who has over 35 papers peer reviewed says it has been peer reviewed, by at least 4 PhD's yet you say nothing about the "official investigations" not being peer reviewed. Just who are your "experts" James Bennett or Mark Roberts? who happen to have no education or experience to justify any support of anything they say and have no idea how the scientific process works
hey stupid 4 people with phds doesn't constitute the scientific community. plus I happen to know that he NEVER had the paper he did peer reviewed. it is you who has zero experience or training in cd jobs or construction but feel you can talk down to me like you do. I work in construction & know a hell of a lot more about what happens to go on on a jobsite than you could ever hope to. when will you get it through your thick head that Jones is a liar?
4 independent PhD's reviewing a paper is a Peer review. David Griscom who has over 185 peer reviewed papers says Jones Paper has been peer reviewed. It is obvious that you have no experince with CD jobs or construction of tall steel buildings. You seem to have no idea how the scientific method works or how to check out your sources.
James Quintiere says investigations so far are flawed and he is a expert in fire investigations. Maybe you know more then him?
you are a total asshole. I am a NYC Ironworker. what is obvious is your total deep throating of the crap conspiracy sites post as truth. another thing you lack is intelligence. you don't seem to realize you need to have the community at large look at the paper & comment on it for it to be peer reviewed which means you can't go to your close friends & call it peer reviewed. open you eyes dummy.
Youn have no idea what you speak of, maybe the fumes have damaged your brain, and most likely the toxic air from ground zero has for sure, our country owes you much, maybe the truth would bve a good start
just because Jones said it was peer reviewed doesn't mean it was, to be peer reviewed you need to publish it & send it to a journal dealing within the community for this to happen. he has yet to do that. my experts have a hell of a lot more training & experience in controlled demo than the people you hold as idols. the people I will listen to DO controlled demo jobs. they have more than enough expertise in this field than all the people you listen to. I will listen to onsite experts.
it is illogical to try to compare a normal cd to what happened on 9-11. If explosives were used they would not have to be used the same way as a normal CD. All they needed to do was weaken the steel structure enough to destroy the buildings. Hundreds of witnesses heard & felt these explosions before the collapse. I know for a fact that military experts could destroy the buildings just like they were destroyed and they could set it up in a few hours
listen stupid this is how a cd job is ALWAYS DONE. bottom up not top down. you drop the rest of the building after taking out the main support beams in the bottom of the building. you NEVER begin from the top. stop posting because you have zero training in a CD job or construction.
Are you really that dim that you can't figure out that the 3 WTC collapses were not normal CD's? The evidence suggests explosives were used, maybe you can try to explain why the evidence points to explosives but you cling to "it wasn't a normal cd" rhetoric.
Maybe you can tell James Quintiere he doesn't know what he is talking about. Anybody with any intelligence would listen to Prof. Steven Jones or David Griscom instead of you. Wonder why?
why do they think it would bottom up, if it were bottom up, it would make no sense seeiing as though the impact was at the top. even though the whole "master plan" makes no sense at all
here is a hint for you: whenever somebody avoids the issues with unreleated topics it is a sure give away they don't have anything to add except diversions
Actually there are lots of people who heard explosions from the basement. Multiple people got their faces smashed in and other injuries when bits of walls and whatnot hit them while being in the basement. Not sure why the poeple injured in the buildings would be lying. Their stories would be spectacular enough without exagerations. Really. Watch Zeitgheist. Don't view it as absolute truth, just watch it. Then think for yourself, fill in the blanks.
Another thing, if a CD job is done bottom up, maybe that's silly, if the WTC's were actually done top down, then this seems to be an unbelievably effective way of doing CDs. 3 buildings in a few hours, all perfectly done. And they were HUGE. So this would probably be a fantastic way of doing it. And you'd only need to start a fire in the top levels of the buildings. Cheap and effective. Think I'll get into the demolition business. Only need a jerry can of gasoline and some matches.
David Griscom with over 185 peer reviewed papers supports Steven Jones and David Ray Griffin work on 9-11.
Griscom is one of the worlds most respected and sourced scientist,( meaning other scientist use Griscom's work as fact.) Nobody has better credentials or more respect in the scientific communtity as Griscom. So politicians or Scientist, who do you believe?
I believe what I saw with my own eyes. I was right there from when the first plane hit. There was no evidence of a cd job anywhere in the wreckage of the buildings(detonation cords,blasting caps,blast sequencing board etc etc) - NONE. Believe me when I tell you that there was no demo job done because a cd is done from the bottom up NOT top down. Plus a hell of a lot more buildings would've been wrecked from flying debris shooting outward from the detonations & the body count much much higher.
many other very educated people opinion is that it look like a CD, and there is scientific evidence that supports their view.
You have no idea what was found after the collapse, almost all evidence was destroyed by the collapse or taken away and destroyed. The only possible way to know what caused the collapse was a scientific investigation, and scientific tests on material from the buildings. There was no normal CD done, but explosives could have been used. evidence supports this
you are talking out of your ass. you have absolutely no clue that "looked like a cd" means LOOKED LIKE OR SEEMED TO BE but not "was a cd job". Having been right there when it all happened means I saw what was there & I saw no evidence of a cd. you have zero training in construction,cd jobs & expect be to believe the crap of Jones & company. well it ain't gonna happen. don't try to tell an actual witness what they saw according to you when you were not there. not all the evidence was destroyed.
Jones has had his scientific tests confirnmed by 3 other independent labs. Test which indicate thermate was used. Very well educated people and hundreds of experts do not agree with the Goverment's story. The facts are, that the facts & the evidence do not support the "official" story. There is no explanation for the collapse of the 3 WTC buildings without something weakening the steel besides the fires & impacts. 47 core & 247 exterior steel columns have more resistance then air
See this is funny, yeah you can debunked the kids for loose change because let face it there not experts, but when real experts in physics,structural engineering start to prove that 9/11 is bullshit and even make the NIST report be as credible as a Dr Seuss cat in hat "HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM "
segn66 you seem to miss the point that professor Barrett, has read the commission report and has found the evidence to be lacking! So, as far as he is concerned, there is not mounds of evidence in the 9\11 report. For starters the 9\11 report never mentions wtc 7. So how do you explain that?
I do not believe that the twin towers were were brought down by controlled demo,it was gone in under 10 sec, thats 11 storys every second,if you watch videos of it which I`m sure most of you have,you can see it turn to dust right before your eyes.I`m not aware of any explosives that can turn whole floors of concrete and steel to dust that fast.
After all the dust went away where was all the steel and concrete [the debris].There was more mass to the towers than was on the ground.
2000tc88 4 months ago
If you come to me looking for a job as a nine eleven denier I will be happy to consider your application.
However, unless you can back up your claims I will feel rightly justified in rejectiing your application on the grounds that you are willing to entertain fantasy in the light of no evidence whatsoever.
Think about your position. Is it justified?
Sarusource 5 months ago
Wow look at these two guys below me lol. It's a battle of the wits in peak form! Who will make the best general insult without knowing anything about the other?
lasoogneypubes 7 months ago
I'm not from America and I could not careless what people from America thinks, but I would just like to comment that you conspiracy theorists and believers of those stuff are dumb idiots! LOL! How can people believe things like this? Some even believe that the Moon Landing was a hoax? Maybe WWII was a big setup also for whatever reason! ROFL!
anoobys 10 months ago
@anoobys
You are not normal. I study civil engineering. there is a study called material strength. it is just impossible to take that building down buy fire, plain crash. maybe earthquake with mark 8 could and then it would not fall down like that! please go back to school and start to study.
RolandsSmoked 9 months ago
@RolandsSmoked Just goes to show, even with the amount of education some people have, they're still stupid =D
anoobys 9 months ago
@anoobys
IT show how stupid you are, science does not lie. Science can down to molecularly, by chemicla reactions and physics, prove that it is not possible for those buildings to collaps.. ..+thermite was found in dust after collaps.+Thermite - Most varieties are not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures.PLAIN FUEL doesn burn hot enough to weaken steal! Sorry about your braindamage, get better and then give your advice proving it scientificaly, not emotionaly!
RolandsSmoked 9 months ago 3
@RolandsSmoked Wow what big words you've used to prove to yourself that those two buildings were actually destroyed through a planned demolition by your OWN government and really wanted that to be an excuse to attack Iraq, oh yeah tell that to the families of those 2,900+ victims that died day, and to those people who was in the plane that hit those two buildings... Oh you're so smart dear sir!!! I can't believe I missed that fact, maybe because I am brain damaged and refuse to accept reality?
anoobys 9 months ago
@anoobys
Wow. Way to say absolutely nothing. Nah you're prolly not brain damaged. Just stupid and/or in denial
splendid1000 8 months ago
@splendid1000 You're either dumbest troll in youtube, or just too stupid to come up with a decent rebut to what I just said LMAO!
anoobys 8 months ago
@anoobys
Way to say nothing again LMAO!
splendid1000 8 months ago
@splendid1000 Talking to yourself again I see? =P
anoobys 8 months ago
this is all very disturbing and to see that goverment is trying to vote in order to shut people up that are talking about it..........its all f up
outlawbenning 11 months ago 2
didnt matter where the planes were gonna hitthe explosives were found and that all that matters building fell down like dominos from thermite. why the fuk would there be traces of military grade explosive in the dust of world trade centers ?????????????are u stoopid or u just beleave the goverment lies. realy wake the f up
outlawbenning 11 months ago 2
mossad did it
=nIH50KhpVWg
voodoowichdoctor 11 months ago
For an excellant video review & related commentary, check-out Jon Cole's recent post "9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate" on youtube and/or 911blogger(dot)com; Nat. Geo's absurd 'experiment' disproving viability of thermite to cut steel is shown to be a nonsensical farce, designed to fail; NIST's failure to test for explosive despite abundant eyewitness, video & byproduct evidence is inexplicable EXCEPT as intentional fraud. Only 2% sulpher making thermate GREATLY increases efficiency.
starmanskye 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor and printing it without her approval?
How can Marvin Bush be in charge of WTC security when he stopped working for Securecom in June of 2000?
If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
ctcole77 11 months ago
@ctcole77 ...the point that you're missing is that "911 truthers" want these questions to be asked as well. They want to know what really happened. Just because you think you've identified 3 questions that are worth asking, does not make all of the other evidence go away. A real investigation would look at all of the info, and your questions would hopefully get answered as well. Stop focusing on "truthers" and start focusing on the facts.
RLOC44 11 months ago
IDIOTS OUT THERE!!! That say explosives/thermite wasnt used. Answer this How does a buiding fall in 7 sec? how does all the remains turn to dust and ash? How does jetfuel reach 2700F when it only reaches 1500F and steel melts at 2700F? How come there was hot moltan meltal weeks and months after the collapse?How come there has never been a building collaspe built of steel from fire or plane? The only buildings that have collapsed do to fire or "plane" are the trade towers and building 7.Wakeup!
copenhagenlct 1 year ago 3
@copenhagenlct
agree with u 10000 %good to see people out there uniting and bringing the truth out real truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
outlawbenning 11 months ago
@outlawbenning Its sad people are completly brain washed!
copenhagenlct 11 months ago
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the only ppl who knows if 9/11 was controlled demolition are NYers. ppl who were in the building during the "crash/explosion" whatever u want to call it. they could tell if something below them exploded or if a plane above crashed. or both which is also possible
Livinglifehigh 1 year ago
this guy is liying they never found any thermate on the steel attal jones apparntley found thermate stuff in the dust from 911 but wheres that proof wheres the evidence ? show me the test results do a fucking test on camera or somthing ? no evidence no explosions simple as that
robbierealist 1 year ago
@robbierealist Wow! Were YOU there? Are YOU a professional in this field? Are YOU an expert? Do YOU understand the consequences of bearing false witness? Where is the evidence for true Americans to diligently sift through and complete a thorough investigation "on camera or somthing" as you stated? In the end there is only one TRUTH. I've learned to ask many questions before laying judgement.
Try this on for size.
It's better to appear a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
i2live4truth 1 year ago
@robbierealist Good point, except Jones never even found thermate in the dust. What they said they found were the chemical signatures of a thermate reaction; various chemicals found in thermate. Problem is those chemicals can be the by products of lost of other stuff, none of it being thermate. Other problem is that what was found was not in the signature quantities/ratios of thermate. DRGriffin is as much of an idiot as Barrett.
bman342 1 year ago
Damn, he made the commission report believers sound dyslexic!
playtimehomies 1 year ago
I need a scientifically sound explaination of all 3 building collapse that does not lead to controlled demolition 'theory'. Til then i guess I am just a nut job conspiracy theorist that asks logical questions.
Kbonefan 1 year ago
The highest point at which jet fuel burns is 1800 degrees F*. Steel begins to weaken at at 2800 degrees F*. This is why fire does not melt steel!
The black smoke from the towers indicates that the jet fuel was oxgyen deprived meaning the max heat capacity in the towers was only about 500 degrees F*.
Elementary laws of physics!
9-11 was a controlled demolition!
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago 2
al Qaeda is really al CIAda.......
hich101 1 year ago
All I really need to convince me that the official story is bullshit:
Not the physics of the building collapes...
Not the chemical evidence of thermite...
Not the pathetic cover-up...
Not the overwhelming financial and political gains made by the few...
...
Just that Fox News is so maniacly, foaming-at-the-mouth, rabidly defensive of the official story and so derisive to anyone unconvinced by it. Anything spouted on Fox News, you can guarantee is right-wing propaganda. without exception.
ThePassiveFist 1 year ago
I SEE COMMENTS FROM JUST MONTHS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OVER 5 YEARS AGO 9-11 AND I RESPECT THOSE WHO STILL PAY INTEREST IN THE 9-11 INCIDENT DON'T LET THE GOVERNMENT LEAD YOU A STRAY
1990banks 1 year ago
it doesnt matter what anyone says, its still an inside job. i aint american but even i know its an inside job.
sarahmama1984 1 year ago
ouch
secretwatcher100 1 year ago
If you read the passenger lists and investigate, you will find that something is definitely wrong. Some of the people allegedly on board those planes the government would not mind if they went away. Such as a former admiral scapegoat for the tail hook scandal. Who was an Honorable man with an amazing record.
laserus333 1 year ago
is the ZION that did it with the help of the American governementnwake up people,!!!!!
strongfucker25 1 year ago
You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it. MALCOLM X
BangEmOutProductions 1 year ago
Yet another ill guy
johammbass 1 year ago
to the coward who deleted their comment ,I know for a FACT that firefighters have joined the movement.
Not sure about the exact number but it is high.
NaciremaRiorepus 1 year ago 2
How about it NaciremaRiorepus...Did you forget to tell everyone WHy your beloved SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 Truth group SPLIT IN TWO. Why did that happen......Oh yeah....I remember why you now have 2 9/11 Scholars groups......the original one spilt because around half the members supported the "Death Ray from Space took down the towers,,,and mini Nukes helped too"... VS the NANO THERMITE MELTED THE BUILDING Scholars.....LOL.....its like a retard convention everyday at the Truther households..LOL
JPPolachek 1 year ago
pathetic failure, no explosives used, was a plane in each building and debris on the 3rd building.
stop being a coward and try being intelligent.
RageagainstRacism 1 year ago
controlled demolition, says demo experts and firefighters.
Learn about the truth before spewing lies.
NaciremaRiorepus 1 year ago 4
Firefighters....really.....hmmmmm.....lets examine that.....why is it then,,If its so obvious as you say......that NOT ONE FDNY FIREFIGHTER IS A MEMEBER OF THE Firefighters for 9/11 truth movement. HUH...all you have is a view Volunteer losers from Jersey....LOL....how come you cant get a single paper published in a respected PEER REVIEWED journal if its SOOO obvious like you say..how come you dont have ANY RESPECTED structural engineers in your scholars group..OH I forgot. JUDY DEATH RAY WOODS
JPPolachek 1 year ago
@NaciremaRiorepus
you need to watch
911 PASSENGERS MIGHT BE FICTITIOUS
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO HAVE HAD COLLAPSED WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES. PERIOD. Debris? Are you high? You obviously don't know anything about structural engineering and the laws of physics.
stephen2152002 1 year ago 3
Stephen2152002: That's the problem. Many of the shills that voice the "truthers are kooks" position apparently do not understand basic laws of physics or they would not make an ass out of themselves (like JPPolochek) . I have a video up on Bldg. 7 you might find interesting.
valuecreation75 1 year ago
@valuecreation75
check this one out
THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
inside job
8712222q 2 years ago 32
@8712222q
Watch
911 TABOO
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
@LifeRegenRevolution - good one, I see it before, no plaine crash but some kind of computer manipulation
peace
8712222q 1 year ago
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EXPLOSIVES WERENT USED
read the NIST report
stop fantacising
the real 'truth' is actually more interesting, a lot more complex and actually useful to society.
Alex jones is a douchebag
dylan avery is a douchebag
jason bermas is a douchebag it did look like explosives but a tranny looks like a woman but is still a man, you know why,.. because EVIDENCE of her chromosomes would tell you so. I.e. dont judge a book by its cover.
intruda11 2 years ago
the fun thing is so many know the 9-11 facts so many know the new world order facts
and we still do nothing watching youtube vids and go to work.
they must be laughing their asses of at us sheep
antischaap 2 years ago 3
@antischapp, I couldn't agree more. It's 2010, we know its an inside job. We're still in a war and the we, the American People still are doing nothing about this. I wish we could do something
TheRealPinkMenace 1 year ago 5
Sionistas - Demônio do World
marqueszum 2 years ago
is usama bin laden a code?cia and fbi spelling of his name?the anagram for this is ...and in U.S.A.,blame !!!
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
You wana know why I know he is wrong....because if he was right, he would be dead
hensomm 2 years ago
@hensomm
^_^
Look what happened to Dan Rather & Rosie O'Donnell.
Rather's was the only voice that day reporting what he was seeking with his own eyes, as WTC7 went straight down. "Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time today..." Sans-teleprompter he voiced what he saw with his own eyes. As it happened.
Next thing you know a Miss Lewinsky bit him the ass - an excuse to get him silenced.
(AWOL bush story)
Same thing happened to Eliot Spitzer.
Rosie and Charlie - REAL PATRIOTS!
Research0digo 2 years ago
This "Univ of Holland" thing is actually just the latest version of the thermite claim from Steven Jones & co. The problem is that there's no such thing as paper-thin nano-thermite that can be "painted on" thick structural steel & cause synchronized, precision cuts/explosions. It doesn't exist. That's why you'll find no mention of it anywhere except from 9/11 conspiracy believers. Jones & co. refuse to send their "samples" to independent testing labs. Why?
PoetryHound 2 years ago
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To add...
How about WTC5?
It was on fire as well...except it did NOT collapse!
And there is plenty - PLENTY! - of technical, photographic, and expert evidence, collected in the days AFTER 9/11, that WTC5 was also about to collapse from the fires alone.
How do the truthers explain that?
The truthers never show the photographic evidence of the interior - INTERIOR! - of WTC5 after - AFTER! - the fires. CT'ists selectively choose to ignore this fact because it is inconsistent with their CT.
wimahlers 2 years ago
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wimahlers 2 years ago
There was NO EVIDENCE OF ANY DETONATION CORD OR DETONATION CAPS WHERE USED. This dude is idiot. Hes a jobless loser that has no credible background in Islam studies or Engineering. He is an English major.....English people.....Bring up his wikipedia.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
Don't worry there's only about 300 other engineers in A&E for 9/11 truth, and 400 other people with good resumes behind in there as well.
Krawnikal 2 years ago
You don't need cords when you have highly reactive nano-thermite, it's triggered by heat, not by electrical charges, noob.
Krawnikal 2 years ago
Show me a video of nano thermite cutting through steel girders....I'll wait.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
wTc 7, bro. ...ill wait.
TheAmericanThinker 2 years ago
a question with a question? thats cute. if you cant answer it just say you cant and move on.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
Peer reviewed scientific paper that was handed to congress:
bentham-open . org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ . SGM
Can you say, owned?
TheAmericanThinker 2 years ago
I asked for any video of nano-thermite cutting steel or any nano thermite video at all and you link me a trash "peer reviewed" article and you think I am owned? I will say this 1 more time as I can see you are having trouble. Find me 1 video of nano thermite reacting and doing anything of use and then we will go from there. I say this because nanothermite was only available in tiny amounts labs in 2001. Not commercailly available at all. Good Luck.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
Its not my fault you can't read. Read the paper. I dont have to answer your straw man questions. You want proof, there it is. Its up to you to ignore the evidence. Its ok I understand you don;t want to admin youve been defeated. :) Good luck.
TheAmericanThinker 2 years ago
Not one time in that entire paper does he ever conclude that he has found nanothermite or thermite. He actually makes up words like "thermatic" material. Thermatic is not a word. You can look it up. When you make up words, you lose scientific credibility. Your still ignoring the fact that, even if this stuff did exist. #1 You cant find enough to take down buildings. #2 If cannot be used to cut through massive steel beams. You dont have to answer questions because you have no answer.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
It should also be noted that the samples were held in non sterile conditions by regualar new yorkers SIX YEARS after 9-11. So what did he find in these contaminated examples? Rust and Aluminum. WOW. I bet there was no rust and aluminum in the world trade centers BEFORE they planted all that "thermitic" material in there. Actually its probably just paint being that it looks identical to paint attached to iron. The same red paint that was used while building the WTC towers.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
then explain how building 7 came down like that from a fire
if wasnt thermite
antischaap 2 years ago 24
try using google. its a very usefull tool
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
haha very funny qeuss you dont have the anwser ....
antischaap 2 years ago
@antischaap
watch this 1
SEPTEMBER CLUES
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
@antischaap Google and read "Structure" magazine's" Why the WTC 7 fell.
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@antischaap
thermite CANT be used in controlled explosions. It doesn't explode, it just burns at a very high temperature for a short time.
Building 7 was getting struck by debris from the north tower when it fell. Everyone knows that.
Timmay123456789 1 year ago
@Timmay123456789 Everyone doesn't knows that they are just stupid and want to stay that way
derrick713 1 year ago
@derrick713
wat?
Timmay123456789 1 year ago
@Timmay123456789 Buildings do NOT fall down like that when hit by debris. It came down completely clean. The only way to do that is by the use of controlled demolition.
How do you explain the diagonal cuts found on some of the supporting beams on both the N and S towers? They were weakened PRIOR to those planes hitting to ensure they'd come down. It was all about covering the evidence.
The guy has a PHd. There are plenty others like him with similar credentials who think something isnt right.
KosmicFlux 1 year ago
@KosmicFlux
and there are many more people with better credentials who think exactly what we rational people think. Debris strikes building 7, fires rage for hours. Supports fail building collapses.
How can you jump to the conclusion that it was a controlled demolition, when there were clearly no signs of controlled explosives. This is where you guys fail, you jump to conclusions without considering the best explanation.
Timmay123456789 1 year ago
@Timmay123456789 Google WTC7 fires
Uneven fires should have had a collapse that was way more lop-sided.
Thermate dust residue was found at all WTC sites. Similarly with molten iron found in the basement levels--the byproduct of thermate ignition--weeks after the attacks.
Witness statements and a recorded video of a telephone conversation have sounds of closely timed sequence of explosions just prior to collapse.
Google video search: WTC proof of explosives
About 36 pages of vids come up.
oldspammer 1 year ago
@oldspammer
dprjones did a great series on the thermite/thermate claim
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=yPyM8sDFCoQ (part 1)
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=SMvz3taoMnU (part 2)
you'll see after watching this why thermite/thermate was not used
Timmay123456789 1 year ago
@Timmay123456789 you do realize the secret service along with other federal agents were not lettting rescuers and construction crews after the collapse into the collapsed and destroyed/burning concourse in the days after the attack right?
cj397 1 year ago
@cj397
you do realize that the debris contained harmful chemical compounds, and prolonged exposure would cause serious and possibly permanent damage to anybody who spent enough time in there right? The government does care about it's people my friend.
Timmay123456789 1 year ago
@Timmay123456789 the thermite was used to cut tru the steel pillars holding the building you can see it on some of the pictures on groundzero . the thermite was attached diagonaly like this \ and used to weaken the foundation...
antischaap 1 year ago
@antischaap hahaha were are you 2006? fuck man that question is old school haha fuck me, idiot
gazoopi 7 months ago
And lastly. What does the paper say about what the material was? Was it really nanothermite or maybe just thermite? The paper says they really dont know but it reminded them of nano-thermite. They dont know for sure. Why? Because they had NO SAMPLES OF NANO THERMITE TO COMPARE IT TO. So you "peer reviewed" paper says its not really sure what it is. That sounds pretty conclusive to me. BTW. They published that article behind the back of the editor in chief and she quit right after. Gotta love it.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
WTC7 is the best evidence that there was NOT a controlled demolition. Why? This is proved by Steven E Jones. How did he prove this? He proved this by proving that a group of perpetrators had absolutely NO problems by smuggling in, place and set, tons of explosives in WTC1+2 without ever being noticed by 25,000 tenants. Perpetrators who are this attention shy will have NO problems focussing NO attention on themselves by taking any evidence out of WTC7 instead of blowing up WTC7. QED.
wimahlers 2 years ago
there were people in the towers supposedly installing a new security system a few weeks before 9/11...many eye witnesses saw them and wondered what they were doing
nathenism 2 years ago
Wow....Im gonna mail you 2 million dollars tomorrow. Go sit by your mailbox.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
the biggest maffia in the world is the USA !!!!
mikesyd 2 years ago 3
He is right, Demolished, And this is why The U.N pulled out of Afghanistan and Iraq.
They are now planning War on America I would bet as most are now. Just to take out the powers that run America.
Snowman374th 2 years ago
Based on these observations, we conclude that the red
layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC
dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating
nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or
explosive material.
!!!!!!!Prof. Barrett is rehabilitated!!!!
freidenki 2 years ago
freidenki,
You said:
we conclude... is unreacted thermitic material...or explosive material.
Me:
Who is the "we"? You mean Harrit? Steven E Jones?
Harrit's paper never was, and still isn't, peer-reviewed by any scientific peer. Not one! Most of the 9 co-authors of his paper have no clue about science. His paper also implies that 1000 tons of explosives was used. The material investigated is also declared to be nanothermite to the exclusion of any other explanation. A hasty conclusion.
wimahlers 2 years ago
Thank you voice of reason. Of all the scholars in the "Scholars for 9-11 Truth" there is 1 in the field of science. I think he is the only acitve engineer. There are roughly 75 of them and they are mostly in the field of English/Fine Arts. They review each others papers and call them "peer reviewed". Yet no credible magazine/paper will publish them.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
9 co authors who work at a university in holland have NO idea what they're doing? Well why don't you move to holland and get a job there because since they don't know what they're doing over there you may as well join the club, you'd get laughed at you idiot. ignorant statement. Anyone working at a university besides maybe the janitor knows the scientific method which is their job you dumb fuck.
Krawnikal 2 years ago
LOL? "Anyone working at a University". Really? So English teachers know the scientific method? Knesiology teachers? Psych teachers? Philosophy? Get a life bro. Invest your time into something that ISNT complete bullshit.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
Yeah The scientific method is pretty common, I learnt about it in high school science class, so I'm sure anyone in university would know. And nano-thermite doesn't 'cut' it more or less explodes as a reaction to heat, if you would look up the chemical properties of nano thermite, you'd know this.
Krawnikal 2 years ago
AmericasFan is too stupid to think for himself. He doesn't see the connection between Bush Sr.'s speech on Sept. 11th 1991 on the NWO and the attacks exactly ten years later.
He's not so much a thinker. I bet he thinks Oswald is the one who killed JFK...and that bullets can turn circles in mid-air. He doesn't understand govt-media manipulation...at all
JSSTyger 3 years ago 3
Speaking of that. I have a video that places Bush Sr. In Dallas on that day. He was CIA. It was said that he was one of the shooters basically, Because his alibi was not right places him in three other places that don't add up. All three were his words too.. He was lost on that day.. Killing JFK !! His father helped place Hitler into power financing Nazis.
Snowman374th 2 years ago
Why do these conspiracy idiots claim the 9/11 commission report is the official story? Who said it was? The President never has. Neither has any of the board members. It is not the official story you morons. Take your lazy ass and read the reports of professional structural engineers. People who have an idea of what they are talking about.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
You're right, AmericasFan. People have NO right to question authority, especially on matters concerning 9/11. Walk the Party Line, is what they should be doing. I'm just wondering... When WILL the "official story" be revealed to the public? What will the gov have to say about it? Is government censorship warranted in this case? Should the 1st Amendment be suspended on this subject?
joe80dman 3 years ago
You have a right to ask questions. But just because the commission report didn't explain the collapses and crash sites doesn't mean shit. None of the board members are experts in the proper fields. Why explain something that they have no knowledge of? Again read the reports of lead investigators and experts. Don't rely on the commission report for all of your accusations.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Oh, I "have the right to ask questions", well thank you very much, Mr. Stalin, but I already knew that. Why was the commission stacked with people that were mere idiots "in their proper fields"? Say what you want, cover-up with your desperate attempts, but we all KNOW now, and we're pissed as hell. Are you the one assigned to squash all debate on this subject? I only need my eyes, and Dr. Jones for my affirmation. Anyone who believes the gov, or guys like you, needs their head examined.
joe80dman 3 years ago
It's obvious that you are too lazy to read the reports of world leading institutions and experts. The only purpose of the commission report is to figure out why the attacks occurred? Thats it. Why so much confusion? Why so much miscommunication? Things of that nature. If you really have evidence of your stupid claims why don't you take your so called evidence to countries that hate the U.S. Because you can't. Because even they will say it's all bullshit. It's you who needs your head examined.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Here we go again; Attack the Messenger! If the commission were to simply determine "why" the attacks occurred, that answer is very simple: To dupe the American public into another damn war. Your smug innuendos make it obvious you're either a poser, or one who is DESPERATELY trying to discredit the truth in this tragedy. Do you work for the MIC? Are you a pro-Zionist type? The cat is out of the bag. There's alot of pissed-off people out there, and they're mad as hell. Go sell your soul.
joe80dman 3 years ago
Typical. Your fantasies are debunked and all you can come up with is that i'm a shill. If I am then i'm still watiting for my first paycheck. You discredit your own theories. You can't even make up your mind if flight 93 landed in Cleveland. Despite saying that you have evidence that it was shot down. Which one is it? You can't have it both ways.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Okay, then you prove to me how the buildings fell straight down after being struck by two comparatively small planes with a comparatively small amount of jet fuel? It's hideous to imagine this as factual! And what about Building #7? I noticed that your so-called "experts" (spin doctors), couldn't, WOULDN'T answer this phenomena. Keep trying to convince us. We'll be laughing all the way until the next government generated disaster strictly designed to install more KGB style bureaucracies.
joe80dman 3 years ago
How else is a building suppose to fall down?Was it suppose to tip over like a tree? If thats what you are expecting than you are living in a fantasy world. All of your questions have answers. You can't look at only conspiracy websites and assume they are right. You have to look at both sides. Thats why we have "google". Try using it for once in your life. Based on your comments I am thoroughly convinced you are too lazy to do research on anything about 9/11.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Again, you're either a shill, or someone that just refuses to see the truth. If even the hand picked 9/11 Commission couldn't explain the collapse of #7, wouldn't that speak volumes? Ever watched a live demolition, or known anyone who demolishes old structures? What about this Prof. Barrett? Or Prof. Jones (BYU)? I suppose they don't know what they're talking about, eh? Do you think these professors, or any educator, should be banned from employment for not walking the "official story"?
joe80dman 3 years ago
No because none of the board members are structural engineers. Why explain something they have no knowledge of? As for Jones and Barrett, are they world leading structural engineers? I have watched a live demolition. And the collapse of the towers didn't sound like one. I have yet to hear a huge amount of really loud bangs.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
So, you believe the 9/11 Commission that DID NOT consist of any structural engineers. But, WON'T believe either Barrett, or Jones, which IS a structural engineer. You take the cake! Your desperate attempt to defuse the truth is crumbling. Try harder.
joe80dman 3 years ago
Barrett and Jones are not structural engineers. They have an education in other areas. Jones is a physices guy not a structural engineer guy. It's amazing how his Journal of 911 studies were never reviewed by a panel of experts. Instead it was reviewed by a bunch of people who believe in this buillshit.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Maybe those so-called "panel of experts", or LAPDOGS, would rather keep their government grant monies, or college jobs that don't tolerate freedom of speech, or expression. It's a sad day in America when the principles of the 1st Amendment are abandoned for the lies of influential political groups. I can see where you're coming from now. "The scholars and intellectuals!" dogma! To hell with the LIARS. To hell with all those that SELL OUT for a pittance. We know the truth, and it's not good 4 u
joe80dman 3 years ago
So why don't they take it to France, Iran, or any other country that hates the U.S. and have their experts review it. Why can't you do that? It's amazing that in a world of anti-american media you can't even do that.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Simple. The gov wanted an alibi to find an end-run around the Bill of Rights. The government HATES the Bill of Rights, the Constitution in general, because in their words it "gives the People too much freedom". Now, that's really bad. Too much freedom is BAD. Bush needed an excuse for signing his long sought after E.O. for instituting Martial Law. The big advantage came with the war on Iraq. PRE-EMPTIVE WAR! War is Peace! AIPAC ordered it, DC follows orders from AIPAC. Simple, eh?
joe80dman 3 years ago
Where did you get that? Please don't give me a conspiracy website because thats where people like you become so gullible.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
And you expect me to only view the establishment's line, and their websites that carry the same lie that "19 Islamic highjackers downed the WTC buildings"? You guys are losing the argument, bigtime. Try as you may to convince the American public otherwise, it will never work. You guys have lost the debate.
joe80dman 3 years ago
"You guys have lost the debate"
That is the funniest thing I have ever read.LMAO. If we lost the debate there would be a worldwide outcry. Demanding Bush's resignation, prosecution, imprisionment, and perhaps even death. When 99% of the experts in the proper fields disagree with all of your fantasies. With so much anti american and anti bush media and press around the world you think they wouldn't jump at the chance to get rid of our idiot of a president.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
"If we lost the debate there would be a worldwide outcry. Demanding Bush's resignation, prosecution, imprisionment,". Oh, and just WHOM would prosecute Bush? Another Skull and Bones member? Someone from the D of J? WHOM??? It's a secret insiders CLUB, and the peoples of the world are NOT members of it.
joe80dman 3 years ago
Bush wouldn't be in office. He would've been forced out one way or another. The fact is that you can't even get Iran, one of the U.S. and Bush's worst enemies, to agree with all of your bullshit. People like you are the most paranoid on the planet. You really believe in this NWO bullshit.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
"Bush wouldn't be in office.", Please! Bush is a member of the American oligarchy! He wouldn't be FIRED. He does what he wants, when he wants, and what are the People gonna do about it? Go on an attack me with your adolescent verbiage. You do this because you've LOST the debate. You lose, and WE WIN! And I don't have to use name-calling tactics, either. It is YOU that's paranoid now, AmericasFan. Are you worried that the People will be enraged that you lied to them? Shills are shills...
joe80dman 3 years ago
"We win". Thats a good one.LMAO. He doesn't do what he wants. If he did people like you would be dead within a blink of an eye. You are lucky we live in a democracy. Go to Cuba and see if the press and media rip Castro. I havn't lost nothing. Only in your eyes. Conspiracy idiots are conspiracy idiots. Get a girl and some pussy first.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
Being a paid "shill" must be boring work, eh? I couldn't care less if they kill me! They killed Christ, didn't they? History repeating itself? We DON'T live in a "democracy". This PROVES your SHILL status in trying to promote false teachings. We have a REPUBLIC! "democracy" doesn't appear in the Constitution. REPUBLIC does! And using fowl words is a common tactic of shills. You're losing the battle, and we're glad!
joe80dman 3 years ago
If we're losing the battle where are the world leaders calling for Bush's arrest or impeachment. Oh wait a minute they are all part of the NWO. I forgot.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
I was surprised myself after learning of the many intertwining secret lodges, Fan. There's no doubt that something stinks here, and those responsible are getting nervous.
joe80dman 3 years ago
Dont point out facts. It will force the truthers to think of some other absurd notion to get around it.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
911 truthers should look up "peer review process"
Don't believe everything that people tell you.
dreamdewil 3 years ago
Thank you YOUTUBE and AMERICA for having the opportunity to express own opinions. Voltaire also would be proud upon you. Everybody has to fight for this fundamental right, also those people who do not share my own opinion!
freidenki 3 years ago
this professor loves his country and he runs the risk to shorten his career, only because he wants to know the truth. is this our future?
freidenki 3 years ago
conspiracy terrorists always see explosives, looool!!!!!!they are against america.
but, easily debunked: at such a spectaculous day you have many reporters and secret agents taking photographs. so everywhere you can see flashlights of their cameras. ...absolutely nothing unusual. damn fucking ....!!!!!
-Sorry, but I've read to much of such stupid BULLSHIT! Fortunately many Americans really love their country and want to know who is really responsible for these crimes!
THINK OF BARRY JENNINGS!
freidenki 3 years ago
well no SHIT
EVERY fuckin question for you damn truthers is impossible to answer because you all dont have any real evidence.
the only "jerk off" is the one claiming stupid idiodic outrageous things and not having anything to back it up with.
glasspig 3 years ago
what type of explosives were they??
how were they placed???
WHERE were they placed??
WHO placed them there?? (actual names, not generic terms like "the gov" or "the cia")
WHEN were they placed ???
WHO set them off??
hmmm, funny how nobody has any proof of any of this.
glasspig 3 years ago
CD makes noise that you can hear from a long way. I have seen the collapses and I didn't hear any explosive go off. It did not sound like a CD. Second, a CD makes flashes or sparks the sign of an explosive yet the buildings show none what so fucking ever.
AmericasFan 3 years ago
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You republican retardos and blind believers make fucking sick.Go buy a fucking brain for once.You never doubt the goverment and never ask for an explanation all you need is a big "God bless America!" or "This is America whoo!!" and then you feel happy and satisfied you are like little lumbs in a farm. If you don't dare to think or ask a few questions THEN WHATS THE FUCKING POINT BEING HUMAN BEINGS? sorry i didnt mean to be mean but you people just get me on my nerves.Pls fuck off and die.
cypresspuz 3 years ago
a lot of evidence still exists. it is in the Fresh Kills landfill & in a hanger at JFK airport. nice try but you failed.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
Evidently you don't understand how investigations are suppose to be done. First of all it should have started right away, and the "experts " should have been taken samples from ground zero. Not just given a guided tour then taken to a hangar or landfill where the "evidence" they were given could have came from anywhere. Why do you think they rope off a crime scene? Why do they document everything at the site?
lisabob22 3 years ago
since you decided to be patronizing I will be nasty. you are an asshole. you don't understand a thing I said. the Loizeaux's of CDI were onscene 9/12. they weren't given a guided tour of a hanger stupid.they were right at WTC combing the debris for evidence of a cd job. I spoke to them directly & was told it wasn't an implosion.these are the real experts I would listen to instead of your idols Jones,Griffin & all the others who sucker you & get you to buy their tripe.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
you say they were there looking for evidence, but nowhere is there any record, pictures or any other confirmation of your statement. It is well documented that investigators complained of being guided thru ground zero and not being able to do their job on site. It is well documented that the first step by our goverment was to "clean up" ground zero and most of the steel was shipped to China.
It is also well known that the Official investigation took over 400 days to start
lisabob22 3 years ago
I know you believe whole heartedly the cters by your saying the steel was sent to China. it wasn't. a lot of the steel is now in the bow of the USS NEW YORK. but I wouldn't expect you to listen to me or to the people of CDI Inc. because you listen to lying assholes. I really don't need to hear any more from an idiot such as yourself.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
it was common knowledge and well documented that most of the steel was shipped off to China, even a national magazine for firefighters noted this and said it should never have happened. Why would anybody believe a company who has profited so much from the death of thousands? Hope you can sleep at night and if you really believe this crap, well I do feel sorry for you.
lisabob22 3 years ago
Watch "9/11: blueprint for truth"...the evidence is almost overwhelming, no stone unturned...you call people idiots, yet its YOU who is the idiot...how about you plug a source to your (dis)information, and maybe people will acknowledge your views
johnconnolly111 3 years ago
what this guy has said in this video is a lie. all this guy went on is the word of Griffin who is a known liar. I was there on 9/11 as a 1st responder, and am a construction worker - I would know it if there was a cd job done. there was no evidence of 1 for any of the 3 buildings.this clown neglected to say a lot of damage was done to the buildings from fire & the planes hitting the 2 towers, the debris hitting the 3rd causing it to fall.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
You say he is a liar, but the evidence supports his claimns and proves the goverment's story a lie, who should we believe? I believe scientist like David Griscom and Steven Jones, because they use proper scientific methods to reach their conclusions.
lisabob22 3 years ago
his "evidence" is bullshit. Steven Jones has as well as Griffin to have no background in any of the fields relating to the events of 9/11. they weren't even at Ground Zero when it happened! another thing - they neglected to say that the materials used in the construction could produce the same findings as what they claimed was the remains from explosives. they falsified their findings to support their claims of a cd job. would you rather believe someone who works in construction or a known liar?
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
Sorry Steven Jones has had his findings confirmed by 3 other independent labs, the sulfur he found was not the sulfur from calcium sulfate found in sheetrock, there was no calcium with it. And having a PhD in Physics does qualify Jones to discuss the physics involved. ae911truth . org has lots of engineers with the experience you think is needed.
Jones has not lied about anything and there is no evidence he lied about anything, his science proves to be solid. David Griscom supports it
lisabob22 3 years ago
Jones has YET to submit his paper for peer review. I also just literally finished reading the paper that may or may not have been written by Griscom & found a major omission in the report. He neglected to say that the impacts of the planes blew the fireproofing off the trusswork supports & the resulting fires weakened them to the point that they failed causing the towers to come down. next time you pass a firehouse, ask a firefighter what this means to them: "don't trust the trusswork".
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
there is no evidence that the fireproofing was "blown off" the only evidence of fireproofing being knocked off or destroyed was pictures of some areas in impact zone.
Jones paper has been peer reviewed that is well documented. What hasn't been peer reviewed is any of the "official investigations" James Quintiere points this out. Quintiere also points out that investigations were blocked from seeking answers.
lisabob22 3 years ago
Again - JONES HAS YET TO SUBMIT HIS PAPER FOR PEER REVIEW. to be peer reviewed means to be submitted to a recognized journal & from there open to opinions. Jones has yet to do this. you can stick with the bullshit these people are feeding you & I'll stick with actual facts & expert opinions.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
you say Jones hasn't had his paper peer reviewed, Jones who has over 35 papers peer reviewed says it has been peer reviewed, by at least 4 PhD's yet you say nothing about the "official investigations" not being peer reviewed. Just who are your "experts" James Bennett or Mark Roberts? who happen to have no education or experience to justify any support of anything they say and have no idea how the scientific process works
lisabob22 3 years ago
hey stupid 4 people with phds doesn't constitute the scientific community. plus I happen to know that he NEVER had the paper he did peer reviewed. it is you who has zero experience or training in cd jobs or construction but feel you can talk down to me like you do. I work in construction & know a hell of a lot more about what happens to go on on a jobsite than you could ever hope to. when will you get it through your thick head that Jones is a liar?
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
4 independent PhD's reviewing a paper is a Peer review. David Griscom who has over 185 peer reviewed papers says Jones Paper has been peer reviewed. It is obvious that you have no experince with CD jobs or construction of tall steel buildings. You seem to have no idea how the scientific method works or how to check out your sources.
James Quintiere says investigations so far are flawed and he is a expert in fire investigations. Maybe you know more then him?
lisabob22 3 years ago
you are a total asshole. I am a NYC Ironworker. what is obvious is your total deep throating of the crap conspiracy sites post as truth. another thing you lack is intelligence. you don't seem to realize you need to have the community at large look at the paper & comment on it for it to be peer reviewed which means you can't go to your close friends & call it peer reviewed. open you eyes dummy.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
Youn have no idea what you speak of, maybe the fumes have damaged your brain, and most likely the toxic air from ground zero has for sure, our country owes you much, maybe the truth would bve a good start
lisabob22 3 years ago 2
mightyavatar: why don't you google "peer review process" and learn something. you really need to have more sources than 911myths
lisabob22 3 years ago
just because Jones said it was peer reviewed doesn't mean it was, to be peer reviewed you need to publish it & send it to a journal dealing within the community for this to happen. he has yet to do that. my experts have a hell of a lot more training & experience in controlled demo than the people you hold as idols. the people I will listen to DO controlled demo jobs. they have more than enough expertise in this field than all the people you listen to. I will listen to onsite experts.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
it is illogical to try to compare a normal cd to what happened on 9-11. If explosives were used they would not have to be used the same way as a normal CD. All they needed to do was weaken the steel structure enough to destroy the buildings. Hundreds of witnesses heard & felt these explosions before the collapse. I know for a fact that military experts could destroy the buildings just like they were destroyed and they could set it up in a few hours
lisabob22 3 years ago
listen stupid this is how a cd job is ALWAYS DONE. bottom up not top down. you drop the rest of the building after taking out the main support beams in the bottom of the building. you NEVER begin from the top. stop posting because you have zero training in a CD job or construction.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
explain why a normal CD applies to 9-11.
Are you really that dim that you can't figure out that the 3 WTC collapses were not normal CD's? The evidence suggests explosives were used, maybe you can try to explain why the evidence points to explosives but you cling to "it wasn't a normal cd" rhetoric.
Maybe you can tell James Quintiere he doesn't know what he is talking about. Anybody with any intelligence would listen to Prof. Steven Jones or David Griscom instead of you. Wonder why?
lisabob22 3 years ago
why do they think it would bottom up, if it were bottom up, it would make no sense seeiing as though the impact was at the top. even though the whole "master plan" makes no sense at all
Triple3Deuce2 3 years ago
here is a hint for you: whenever somebody avoids the issues with unreleated topics it is a sure give away they don't have anything to add except diversions
lisabob22 3 years ago
Actually there are lots of people who heard explosions from the basement. Multiple people got their faces smashed in and other injuries when bits of walls and whatnot hit them while being in the basement. Not sure why the poeple injured in the buildings would be lying. Their stories would be spectacular enough without exagerations. Really. Watch Zeitgheist. Don't view it as absolute truth, just watch it. Then think for yourself, fill in the blanks.
ronnysoeberg 3 years ago
Another thing, if a CD job is done bottom up, maybe that's silly, if the WTC's were actually done top down, then this seems to be an unbelievably effective way of doing CDs. 3 buildings in a few hours, all perfectly done. And they were HUGE. So this would probably be a fantastic way of doing it. And you'd only need to start a fire in the top levels of the buildings. Cheap and effective. Think I'll get into the demolition business. Only need a jerry can of gasoline and some matches.
ronnysoeberg 3 years ago
David Griscom with over 185 peer reviewed papers supports Steven Jones and David Ray Griffin work on 9-11.
Griscom is one of the worlds most respected and sourced scientist,( meaning other scientist use Griscom's work as fact.) Nobody has better credentials or more respect in the scientific communtity as Griscom. So politicians or Scientist, who do you believe?
lisabob22 3 years ago
I believe what I saw with my own eyes. I was right there from when the first plane hit. There was no evidence of a cd job anywhere in the wreckage of the buildings(detonation cords,blasting caps,blast sequencing board etc etc) - NONE. Believe me when I tell you that there was no demo job done because a cd is done from the bottom up NOT top down. Plus a hell of a lot more buildings would've been wrecked from flying debris shooting outward from the detonations & the body count much much higher.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
many other very educated people opinion is that it look like a CD, and there is scientific evidence that supports their view.
You have no idea what was found after the collapse, almost all evidence was destroyed by the collapse or taken away and destroyed. The only possible way to know what caused the collapse was a scientific investigation, and scientific tests on material from the buildings. There was no normal CD done, but explosives could have been used. evidence supports this
lisabob22 3 years ago
you are talking out of your ass. you have absolutely no clue that "looked like a cd" means LOOKED LIKE OR SEEMED TO BE but not "was a cd job". Having been right there when it all happened means I saw what was there & I saw no evidence of a cd. you have zero training in construction,cd jobs & expect be to believe the crap of Jones & company. well it ain't gonna happen. don't try to tell an actual witness what they saw according to you when you were not there. not all the evidence was destroyed.
MightyAvatar 3 years ago
Jones has had his scientific tests confirnmed by 3 other independent labs. Test which indicate thermate was used. Very well educated people and hundreds of experts do not agree with the Goverment's story. The facts are, that the facts & the evidence do not support the "official" story. There is no explanation for the collapse of the 3 WTC buildings without something weakening the steel besides the fires & impacts. 47 core & 247 exterior steel columns have more resistance then air
lisabob22 3 years ago
See this is funny, yeah you can debunked the kids for loose change because let face it there not experts, but when real experts in physics,structural engineering start to prove that 9/11 is bullshit and even make the NIST report be as credible as a Dr Seuss cat in hat "HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM "
Dominuce 4 years ago
segn66 you seem to miss the point that professor Barrett, has read the commission report and has found the evidence to be lacking! So, as far as he is concerned, there is not mounds of evidence in the 9\11 report. For starters the 9\11 report never mentions wtc 7. So how do you explain that?
rustilin 4 years ago