Re: WHY I did NOT vote for Barack Obama

[antonioagosto]

I did not Vote for Obama, for the reason is that I did not know who he was and he did not have a record. In fact most of his history is covered no college records. I only saw him in a Punahou School Video

[reneelillian]

OBAMA is NOT a Christian!!!

Christians shouldnt vote for a non-Christian.

Read your bible. Obama and God's word are opposites.

VersatileMind4Christ knows that thoes men arent perfect... she knows.

you completely misundrstood her video.

poor video

[zebbie2000]

Just because someone seems to be christian does not mean they are faithful. God does not care about elected officials. He only cares that each of us as individuals understand our purpose as children of God. If you have faith then you don't cast your lot with a man as your spiritual guide. Whether he seems "christian" or not . You don't have to vote at all. Its your choice to vote and it won't matter one way or the other in determining your ultimate salvation or damnation.

[PROTOKALL]

@reneelillian thats not true

the christian faith exepts all faiths and denominations

[BeaSk8r117]

@PROTOKALL Wrong... God does not accept devil worshipers

[PROTOKALL]

@BeaSk8r117 God accepts everyone no matter who you are or what faith you are, he created everyone. its wrong to worship the devil but it doesnt mean God hates you

[AUTZEN29]

Obama will turn his back on Isreal, and Our nation will fall, there will be nukular war and Jesus will be returning very soon To take Obama out himself! praise God! Obama thinks he is the massiah but he will find out he is sadly mistakin!

[zebbie2000]

You are kidding right? Jesus will be returning soon to take out Obama? You are the main reason guys like Bill Maher make movies mocking faith in God and Jesus.

[KageTrauma]

lol but Israel is ran but corrupt Luciferian Jews, who when confronted hide behind their peoples heritage. It says it in Revelations 2:9. Obama is hand in hand with the corrupt leaders in Israel.

[AUTZEN29]

This man is going to fuck everything up! He is the anti-christ! If you would listen to him you would hear him talk like he is God! and no 1 man on this earthb has been worshiped and I mean worshiped around the world as this anti- christ obama! and MLK and JFK did not rise up from nowhere like obama! jfk, and MLK were big time sinners. But like I said b4 sin is sin and u dont go to hell 4 ur sins, but 4 simply rejecting bush as your lord and savior!

[BlessedPrincess81]

So I dont personally care about who voted for who, because it doesnt matter. But what does matter to the TRUE CHRISTIAN is, why?—that is the true question, because it is a matter of the individuals heart. The scripture clearly says that, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God-Romans 8-14

[BlessedPrincess81]

I believe she was simply comparing how different Barack truly is from the two men and/or what they were stating. Everyone who has knowledge/wisdom knows that there is no perfect person, so that argument means nothing. What matters is truth vs. hypocrisy and whether a person claiming the name of Christ is truly walking in it with integrity. Weve been blessed in this country to be able to freely vote etc. but as TRUE CHRISTIANS, that right can not be nor should be taken lightly.

[BlessedPrincess81]

However, as an African American Christian I must say this. I understand what u r saying about giving Barack the time/chance to do his job—yet I dont believe u clearly understood where our sista was coming from. If you watch the video a second time or more, then you may see her perspective differently than before. Its all about people being deceived. And when you are deceived you are blind to the truth. Throughout his candidacy prior to election, I saw many references to JFK and MLK.

[BlessedPrincess81]

Zebbie: Im not posting to defend either u or the sista your video is in response to—but to bring clarity to a few things. Besides, the comment areas are here for a reason-so hear me out just as Ive heard u. This will be long so I APOLOGIZE, for I wanted all to understand- if u wont block me-(I dont have the ability to record videos)With the sistas video, I completely understood where she was coming from, & I understand where u r coming from.

[akjcad]

america is not run by a single elected leader. no one person holds the power, in fact the supreme court has more power than the president, and there is only so much that obama can do. and so far he hasn't done anything good for this country. he spent over a trillion dollars that we don't have. therefore raising the national debt and screwing over the econmoy, both nationaly AND globaly. he IS a socialist........

[ettolebe]

please get to the point than elaborate

[zebbie2000]

I think I made a point but I guess its all up to interpretation. When I say read your bible I mean that literally. You can gain understanding if you open your mind and read it. Read specifically the New Testament because it gives perspective on how God expects man to live and treat one another.

[AUTZEN29]

Read ur Bible! the only person that will be distroy the anti-christ is Jesus! No man shall take him!

[Valyk126]

glad you didnt jump on the bang wagon and vote for him just because the masses did!!

[johnsde1]

I get so tired of Quasi Christians. They spew the Bible but rarely do most of them live by it. Most are the BIGGEST Hypocrits. What happened to loving your brother. Obama has not been in office for a hot minute while all Christians should have been marching against Bush for his war crimes against humanity both in Iraq and the US!

[Dashell4Christ]

As if hypocrisy is a test of whether something is good or evil, NOT! I am pretty sure that, if a thief says stealing is wrong, it doesn't make theft suddenly morally acceptable.

[MalcomAP]

Well according to his policies and voting records he did not gain my vote I thought he was absolutely the wrong choice for America. This has nothing to do with religion or his personal beliefs, Obama was just created hype for people who think that they actually hold some kind of power when they vote, not realizing that your vote means SHIT his speeches were nothing more & nothing less by empty rhetoric for people who really wanna see a change

[zebbie2000]

Who else out there was better in your opinion and please don't say McCain. Empty rhetoric thats all anyone has to say. The man has not done anything yet but it was all rhetoric. Let him get into office first then JUDGE him. Palin as VP would have been a disaster PERIOD. Just because you think Palin is so religious and righteous yet she allows her daughter to associate with a loose kid dumb enough to help get her pregnant. I really want that person helping to run my country.

[MalcomAP]

Who was a better choice? Is McCain the only politician after Obama you can mention who was running & was in the post election debates? Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Cynthia McKinney, Bob Bar, Chuck Boldwin & Dennis Kucinich, were all better choices than BOTH of them. And you automatically assumed I was a McCain/Palin supporter. Ha typical of the average uninformed person, you Obama supporters disgust me far worse than republicans you vote base off good emotion, rather than logic ha ha what simpletons.

[zebbie2000]

Who I supported was not emotional it was about people coming together. This is where that starts. If God didn't give a choice on how to live then he would have destroyed us by now. He has given everyone a chance to choose that was his covenant... CHOICE. We choose to do right or wrong. Only God dictates where we end up as a consequence of our choices. He is the ultimate judge. My point is?... (repeat after me) God doesn't need "righteous" men to govern. He just wants us to live righteously.

[MalcomAP]

Oh and I fully agree with your statement! but (repeat after me)..Who gives a shit about what he believes in?? I believe in his policies which will affect us not his religious stance, and if his religious stance does affect policies, he should be president!! I fully support yours & anyone else decision on who they voted for, but my point is just know issues before making that crucial decision

[MalcomAP]

Oops what I meant was = if his religious beliefs are affecting his policies then he SHOULD NOT be president

[zebbie2000]

You are the simpleton. Because I haven't heard many supporters of Paul or Kucinich talk about Obama the way you do... you sound like a McCain supporter. Its funny that all of these "christian" values weren't harped when Clinton or Bush was elected. Now all of a sudden the world is coming to an end. Thou shalt not kill goes for capital punishment as well. Killers deserve to live among men. God deals with them himself. Everybody deserves life. But God gives all a CHOICE to kill or not kill.

[MalcomAP]

I clearly stated that his religion or personal beliefs has nothing to do with my vote, I said it's about policies, not what he believes in. I could careless about him & McCain, and what does a McCain supporter sound like? Last time I checked anyone who criticize Obama was not only McCain supporters thats why they happen to be other supporters of other candidates!! and vice versa for McCain.

[SolideoGloriafella]

The media led America into idol worship of Obama = The American "messiah"...

Under Obama, more innocent babies will die, and pro-choice justices will be selected to make sure things stay this way.

To Video poster:

If you love blacks, you hate slavery,

If you love jews, you hate the halocaust,

If you love children, you hate abortion. Obama doesnt love them, hes okay with them dying.

[zebbie2000]

So you want to give me examples of what I should be for or against. Jews believe in an eye for an eye because they don't understand what the original rules were meant for. Thats why Jesus came. God gave us as men freedom to choose how we live our lives. He requires that we honor the commandments in order to see him. Everything else is everything else. We must repent for all sins. No one sin is more important than the other. Obama wants people to be able to use the God given gift of CHOICE.

[SolideoGloriafella]

To Zebbie2000,

(Z) "Obama wants people to be able to use the God given gift of CHOICE."

(S) Adultery is a 'CHOICE', and it is one that God despises because it is SIN.

When the Bible mentions the unborn it says (((WITH CHILD))))

Zebbie, the unborn need rights too, just like the blacks who were 3/5 of a man 150 years ago. What an atrocity!

[SolideoGloriafella]

To Zebbie 2000,

(Z) "Obama wants people to be able to use the God given gift of CHOICE."

(S) Your statement is false. Since abortion is a "CHOICE", why doesnt Obama allow rape and murder? Arent those ((choices)) also?

If abortion is just a 'choice', then murder must also be a 'choice', right?

Bottom line, when abortion is abolished, like slavery was abolished, people will scoff at its supporters.

[Mamifamilyfunk]

You are so twisting his words! if you love animals do you hate meat? So many people love animals but are not vegitarians. Thats not the point though. I believe in adoption but if that is their choice its their choice!

[SolideoGloriafella]

To Mamifamilyfunk,

Murder is also a choice many felons decide to make; its their choice, but the fact that its their choice does not make it right.

The Bible refers to pregnant mothers with this phrase: ((With Child)))....

Abortion rapes children of the right to live in the name of a murderous choice.

Call it what it is " A Choice to murder",,,, not just "a choice".

[SolideoGloriafella]

To Mamifamilyfunk:

(M) "if you love animals do you hate meat? So many people love animals but are not vegitarians."

(S) If you love animals, you hate ((KILLING THEM))

[SolideoGloriafella]

To Mamifamilyfunk,

If you love babies, you hate when they are stripped of their right to live in the name of someones poor choices.

[SolideoGloriafella]

Obama will provide planned parenthood with $400 million more tax dollars to fund abortions.....

Since 2003 there have been 7 million abortions in America.

Blacks have killed 1/3 of their entire race due to abortion. America must repent/

[ColumbiaCowboy]

"You CAN hate the sin without hating the person."

I hear this line over and over, and must remind you a few things...

1. "Love the sinner, hate the sin" isn't in the Bible.

2. Being gay is NOT a sin.

3. It isn't a "sin" that's being harmed by homophobia and hate...it's people. There is tremendous harm and suffering caused to real people by homophobia.

We aren't told to hate anything or anyone. We're told to love, including loving our enemies.

[zebbie2000]

Now I have to correct you on a couple of things.

1. Love the sinner, hate the sin is not verbatim in the bible but make no mistake the sentiment is given as a form of parable.

2. It is a sin to practice adultery. This means man to woman as well as man to man or woman to woman. God acknowledges marriage between a man and a woman only. Everything else is adultery. It may not be verbatim but I'm certain God didn't think he had to make the obvious plain. I can give you the scripture if needed.

[zebbie2000]

Now I didn't say this to you to combat you but if I'm to uphold The Truth I have to uphold ALL of it. I acknowledge that I am a sinner and fall short of God's glory and according to the Bible I CANNOT enter the Kingdom of Heaven unless I REPENT and give up my sins. It doesn't matter that God loves us. He has given us an oppurtunity to change our ways which is His Mercy manifested AS His Love. You need to understand the Word instead of using the Word as an excuse. Its pretty simple.

[donjuan1demarco]

your using reverse psychology, we follow no man! but rather we support candidate's and people of one mind in Christ the people followed Moses but they weren't to worship him or other god's nor idols. just cause we support past presidents don't mean we bowed to them.

[zebbie2000]

You still don't get it. Why all of a sudden does this one President invoke such strong feelings toward God and repenting? The country is in financial trouble and people are worried about jobs and homes. He comes along and tries to ease the fears of the citizens.... they respond and all of a sudden its idol worship? You can't be serious. He is an inspirational figure to this world alone - not to the Kingdom. There is a difference those who don't know need to read their Bible more closely.

[danheg]

I don't think he is the economic saviour for which are looking. Hasn't he been saying that the economy is going to get worse?  Also, how do you reduce and stimulate economic growth by spending more government money on programs? There is a definite parallel between what he promises and what Castro promised Cuba. I submit the condition of Cuba at this present day.

[zebbie2000]

You said he is not the "economic saviour"? What does that mean? The man is gathering a group of advisors to ADVISE him. He doesn't need to be an economic expert. The program he is touting is to help rebuild the country's infrastructure. It is designed to create jobs and oppurtunity. It is not "welfare". It needs to be managed properly in order to be efficient and not wasteful of funds. I think that Obama undertsands that but time will tell whether it is run responsibly.

[donjuan1demarco]

also good thing Moses didn't tell god NO!! I WILL NOT LET Aaron SPEAK FOR ME. America does need to repent for voting obama reason!!! David didn't personally kill Bashiba's husband but his mind murdered Bashiba's husband first so yes if you vote for a man you vote all of it example :

2 Thessalonians 2:10-13 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness

[ColumbiaCowboy]

What on earth???

America doesn't need to "repent" for voting for Obama. There was nothing sinful in voting for him. The video was based in the lie that it's Christian to discriminate against and hate gay people, which is not Christian.

[donjuan1demarco]

huh ? its not christian to hate anyone but rather hate the sin. that's fine ppl have their own mind and they choose to vote what ever which way but.. we know obama never defined his "change and hope" but rather the things he did specify was abortion and gay marriage that's no secret. also this video says no one is perfect, so i guess its OK to say no matter what evil happened in the past is OK, after all no one is perfect. so we will say Hitler was just less then perfect "shrug"

[zebbie2000]

When Barack Obama sends people to gas chambers and burns books then we will be qualified to say he is evil. Until this happens let the man do his job. His job now is to lead this country to more prosperous times. God will always be with us whether Obama or any other man is POTUS. We have to live our OWN lives properly. We are not obligated to "vote" for any person, we don't have to vote period. Live YOUR life right and let YOUR light shine. You CAN hate the sin without hating the person.

[donjuan1demarco]

like a smart man i know you wouldn't believe that just cause he said so. rather you will enlighten youtube with your gift of knowing the future. please by all means enlighten me as well as all the other no minded ppl, that over looked this. ohhh i know you know him personally that's how you know he will make this country prosperous. what was i ever thinking go obama "prosperous times" yaaa

[donjuan1demarco]

OH! im sorry i must of missed something, that you know. what is it obama's going to do to lead this country to more prosperous times ?. i mean that's so great. is it cause he said he will ? or is it cause of the "hope and change" spiel ? im dying to know. i mean after all no other man ever said such good things. i mean it's not like any other president ever said they was going to change Washington and better us. WOW "prosperous times" i must be narrow minded, cause you seem

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Being gay isn't a sin. Obama DID define, with great detail, change and hope and his agenda. His views on reproductive choice is a topic there can be disagreement with within people of faith on both sides, but in no WAY is it Christian to oppose equality and justice in marriage for gay people. Just as the church fought for social justice for racial minorities, we should be fighting for justice and equality for gay people. Obama's an excellent Christian.

[danheg]

Romans 1 amply speaks out against homosexuality; but, Obama's pro abortion stance even to the point of killing babies AFTER they are born is my main though not only reason I did not vote for him.

[johnsde1]

Danheg, this is a lie. Killing babies after birth is murder. No where in his campaign , did he say abortion after birth was possible. Please pick up a book or newspaper, prefably outside of the US. Stop spreading this lying rhetoric. Peace

[danheg]

It isn't a lie ; and, you need to look beyond his campaign at his actions and voting record and check the FACTS!  All you need to do is to google "Obama baby born alive"

[johnsde1]

Danheg, I did as you said and went a step further to pull up SB 1082 and in fact Obama was concerned about the overturn Roe V Wade. The bill The amendment undermines the right to have an abortion because it blurs the line of when a child is defined by law. I know your group wants to save innocent lives. How about starting with the 1 million innocent Iraqi souls killed and leave my right as a WOMAN alone, to choose. This is something between the woman and her GOD not you.

[danheg]

We don't say that murder is between a murderer and God or theft is between a thief and God.

You also did not look at the third presentation of the bill which had wording to protect Roe V Wade and he still voted against it.

By the way more than 40 million lives have been lost to abortion over the years.

[johnsde1]

This is the problem Danheg, you call it murder and others call it surgery. As it is now, Abortion is not a crime while Theft is. There is a very good reason why there should be continued separation of church and state. Also, please refer me to your readings that protected Roe v Wade. Another question, do you believe that the fetus should be kept alive if aborted at 2 months and some how survived the procedure?

[danheg]

Section 136 " (c) Nothing in this Section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive, as defined in this Section. (d) Nothing in this Section shall be construed to affect existing federal or State law regarding abortion."

I can't seem to get links to post, so try going to bill status page and then clicking on the statutes amended.

[danheg]

As to whether the baby should be kept alive at 2 months, you should already get the gist of my view. Whether or not the law has not defined it abortion as a crime does not mean it isn't crime. Obviously the law of the land in Nazi Germany didn't define the Holocaust as a crime either or Stalin's purge in Russia.

But then, all law and legislation is legislating "morality. Challenge: try to find a law that I can't make a moral statement out of it.

[Dashell4Christ]

It is a matter of record on BAIPA in the illinois state senate of how he voted. Look it up! There is also a youtube video uploaded by Jillstanek of a CNN report on the matter. The illionois review in their Jan. 10, 2008 article gave the top 10 reasons why Obama voted against BAIPA.

look it up!

[donjuan1demarco]

in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

[VersatileMind4Christ]

You might believe in God but it went RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD. You completely missed the mark.

There has been deception from the very beginning. Especially with President Bush and Nixon.

I'm done. God bless

[ColumbiaCowboy]

It didn't go over his head. It was bizarre, and wrong.

[zebbie2000]

You may be done but you did not prove your point....

You are right though there HAS been deception in the past. But to take all this out on one man is not right. He is NOT the messiah and anyone deceived by this, well that is their lack of knowledge of The Truth. No one has the right to incite this man as being so sinful that he would set in motion the events that will lead up to the final conflict. No one especially YOU has that moral authority. He is just a man who was voted into office.

[danheg]

Actually there are good and bad things mentioned in prophecy that set the stage for the conflict. Some of the good things are the gathering of Israel back to their homeland and the Gospel being preached to the ends of the world.

[zebbie2000]

The difference between this country and Cuba is that Cuba is run by a dictator and this country is run by a Democratically-elected president. If Obama has a positive influence on the U.S. and other countries who watch us than that can only be a good thing. When it is time for the final conflict it will be undeniable and I doubt that the Anti-Christ will be as obvious as the current "theorized" version people see in Obama. Killing babies even after they are born? Please explain where thats from.

[danheg]

When Castro lead his revolution, he promised his people the same policies in health care, education, and etc that Obama promised. Castro did implement those policies for the most part and it resulted in disaster for the education and health care areas as wellas others. As to prophecies, I meant a man does not have to be sinful to prepare the way for the end times. For instance, it is not sinful to preach the Gospel to the ends of the earth. More to follow.

[zebbie2000]

You still don't understand my point... Castro is a DICTATOR. Now as for that policy about the babies born alive. So what you are saying is he was THE ONLY person to oppose the bill? And exactly what was the language of the bill? Sounds like McCain's attempt to say Obama wanted to teach sex education to kids by saying the policy "basically said/basically meant" when the language of the bill itself was taken out of context. Nice try but you have to pull that one up verbatim.

[danheg]

As to babies, when he was state senator, there was a bill similiar to the Baby born Alive Act proposed. This bill basically said that if an abortion failed and the baby was born then the doctor could not kill it. Obama was the ONLY senator to oppose that bill.