@imallpissedoff .......you think so do you?but having the concept and the guts to perform it is not everyone cup of tee now is it? Or you done any (naked) performance lately ;-) no? didnt think so !
I take it you never produced anything art related, be it a painting, sculpture, performance or other?? Because if you did, you would have a deeper insight to appreciate the energy put into a performance and in reverse; coming out of it. Of course she would "love" creating this performance, which however does not mean it doesn't take courage too. But I am afraid my perception and understanding is lost on you. and so is Marinas. Why observe any art, if you can not engage??
This image speaks volumes. Some people think art is dead, when we die...we will be a skeleton, a skeleton is what forms when you are in the womb...I can go on and on
Never have I seen life breathed into a skeleton, and possibly Death itself, quite like this. This is an even more effective expression of pushing the fragility of life into the territory of the finality of Death than skeletons dancing to fast, hollow sounding xylophone music.
In the current climate of Contemporary art there are three qualifications for international museum exhibitions: 1. your last name 2. who you know in the art world 3. family members who are interconnected .
Thoughts: The circularity of life and the passing thereof. Her breath becomes death's breath. She lives and therefore dies, or is dead and therefore, once lived..and perhaps lives on in other ways (skeleton=residual effect of human life on Earth and on other people and things). It could represent mortality's burden or the weight of death. She knows she'll die, thus the exhilarated or terrified breathing in the exciting or sad knowledge of what it means to live. Ride or watch, but no restraints.
this is utterly beautiful. you just need to be on a higher stage of consciousness to understand something like this. there are people who cant see or understand things beyond a point, their understanding is limited and cant exceed the physical body. i feel sad for all people writing dirty comments here. and marina your fabulous. would love to see more work coming from you
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She is a sick, unhealthy person with deep mental illness, who may negativly impact on people! This is NOT an art - this is a cynical explotation of sexual perversions of unhealthy spoiled Western society!
@kalek100 haha, but what is so very sexual perverted about her work?? especially about this one? i actually totally did not notice any sexual connections in this work, i was thinking of others things when i watched this piece. there are some estheatic elements like the soft contact with the skeleton and her skin while its smoothly moving up and down as she breaths. which makes this dead object subtle come to live and in contact
so im curious what is bothering you so much about this performance.
Marina is wonderful , what a sexy 63 year old I am a male artists model and contemporary dancer , I always perform nude as this allows the ARTIST or AUDIENCE to be totally free of any distractions. The best costume is NO COSTUME
it's amazing what kind of art marina is promoting, really limitless and truly inspiring. too bad that in her own country, in serbia, she isn't understood in real way and even that known.
can I just say that if I didn't take my art history course, I would seriously be confused. I mean, I'm an artist myself but I work with more traditional things and so before I took that class, I really didn't understand modern art at all. I liked it for anesthetic reasons but I really didn't think of the meaning behind it. To tell you the truth, I absolutely HATE my art history class, but I don't regret taking it one bit. It makes you appreciate and understand art so much more...
When I saw her at MoMA, another artist performed along with her. His name is Amir Baradaran, he has a website but I think hes got videos on youtube also
there is not a trace of superficiality in Abramovic's work. In essence, the performance itself is dead without the presence of the audience. Performance art cannot be bought nor sold, it gives. True some of this work may be considered challenging without background, but don't just pass this off as the world's superficiality. You are being ignorant.
Sorry about being too prolix, but I feel I needed to speak my mind here even though it is not the best place.
If it helps, read about asceticism and the act of achieving spriritual bliss through self-immolation. I believe someone said it here before that she was the granddaughter of Varnava, a serbian patriarch of the Eastern Orthodox Church. That has a lot to do with the way her perfomances are dealt with, the absence of food, alcohol and sleep.
About the meaning being arbitrary. There is NO meaning, but meanings. The skeleton may be hers through projection, as it follows the same position she has. There is a logic here, but that does not mean I am right.
I don't think arbitrary is the word. If I explain to you the meaning of my work, I am selling it short to you, making it easy for you to understand the effort I had to come up with an image of death, dying or the permance of residues (skeleton) when we part.
the problem here is that effort reads in the eye of most people as strenuous physical work and not as mental elucubration and the capacity of creating an image that may distress, disturb, enrage or move in any other way.
I don't think this work is a tour de force in no way, but just think about it for a while and try to get in touch with the possible particular meaning of this.
Thank you for this video. I must work on Art, Body and Living and it's a nice surprise to find her work here.
It's true, Contemporary Art is not easy to understand for everybody, but art is living with the Time, we can't always made some "paintings with beautiful flowers". Her art is really poetic, involved and strong.
Don't judge before understand what it means. But don't love just because it call "art".
If you read about contemporary art and about what artists have to say, you begin to realize the deeper layers of meaning a simple video like this has.
Problem is most people stop on the visual layer. That's ok if you make beautiful paintings, but really bad if you do what Marina does. Now, she is talking to people with a broader vocabulary of meanings and most people don't understand.
It is, as you say, contemporary and for it is not to be judgded by first sight, the meaning is arbitrary. The problem with this art is, that there is not really an intention to mediate any type of sense.
Saying that she only uses a broader bandwith of vocabulary is - in my opinion - glorification of her work. She most likely provocates. Whatever. I guess she does not really know by herself. In fact, what you can see is a true example of showmanship.
you may be right, although I think, after reading her books and interviews that she actually has no intention of making her work ressonate one meaning only. Of course, this sounds like she's evading thinking about her work and just using rhetoric.
I do believe I was glorifying her work without knowing why, because I have some serious doubts about this issue, but instead of vivisecting every showman I simply view the work as an experience to be felt and thought about, like a movie.
I see the honey, and the blade, the blood, the star, the skull and the body to be symbolic tools used by the artist to communicate a spiritual/carnal way of cleasing, purifying, desecrating, stressing, wounding and marking the figure of the artist and all that is human.
Again, this may sound like pretentious crap but you can also see aborigenes doing their trance rituals and scoff, saying it is showmanship. Maybe it is, but the fact the person believes there is something there, makes it real.
art is not dead.. people think that with contemporary art, the art dies.. but is not that..the art reborns and transforms. now art is not about beauty anymore is about human conscience and social reality.now art is free of prejuice and rules. The important part is the meaning of the Work of art and not how it looks like. so art didn't die it just reborn =)
"Now, art is not about beauty anymore is about human conscience and social reality.now art is free of prejuice and rules."
I believe "art" stripped of beauty is no longer art, as I believe art is ultimately a moral act. It isn't enough to collapse into the easy smugness of the Observer, combing the detritus that is modernity to say, "Look! Detritus!" An artist, in my opinion, is one who points to ALL that it means to be fully human, not just the smoldering cinders.
@amymahaly This is what you call art! It is a naked lady with a stupid plastic skeleton on top of her! WOW, I wish I could've thought of that. Simple things for simple minds...Try some Norman Rockwell, uh, that's talent. If there is some hidden meaning here, please share it.
well, the simple fact that you NEVER thought of that before Marina Abramovic did shows that it's not as simple as you say... Norman Rockwell is good, but you just can't compare them. Rockwell worked between 1920 and the sixties, while Abramovic is a lving artist which keeps doing great performances, and they have different means of expression.And how can you say her art does not have meanings? It's pure ignorance, sorry. Or is art to you just ''pleasing the eyes of the observer?''
@amymahaly I understand what you are saying, and it is certainly true about Ms Abramovic's work - but please don't make a general statement that art is not about beauty anymore. There are still artists whose work is about beauty. Art can be a reflection of many aspects of existence - beauty is one of them. Think of the aesthetic choices Ms Abramovic makes - in the careful draping of her red garment as she faces each person, for example.
@amymahaly Art cannot be transformed to something else than it is art sadly is dieing and transforms in to something whats called philosophy. a good art work have to "stimulate human conscience and social reality" but, throng stable and strong technica and scientific research, or by good intuition. And most importantly. The artwork have to talk about itself, so no one should give my 5 page explanation why the person wasn't able to crate something that tells me more than any word in the world
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Pretty nice body, marina. Wth all respect which is due, I'd certainly "do" ya! :D I guess this is some of that stupid "performance art" I've always heard of. But I suppose I was never gullible and pretentious enough to pretend that I cared about it, like so many of you fools! Ha!
I am from Serbia, where Marina Abramovic was born, and I must say that, if you want to understand Marina, you need to know ortodox filosofy (my English is not so good, sorry).
Furthermore, ascetism is the WAY from which you come to transcedence. But what transcendence? What is our final destination? Freedom of mind? God? Which God? She doesn't want to say, but she knows...
She is grandoughter of Varnava, serbian patriarch which was before Pavle.
Art was my first love in life but I'll try not to get too artsy fartsy with my comment. What I get from this when I watch, that is my interpretation, is she saying "look at what I am and what I will become" or "flesh eventually becomes bone". I like this type of art form.
I don't agree. This is art. People, like you, watch this, because it is shocking. And shocking is entertainment. This is what called Agressive Art. Shocking people is one of the best ways to make your statement. And isn't that what art is all about, making a statement?
My personal opinion is that this can not be called a piece of art. I see, there is some point she tries to express, she shocks people, she is naked, good for her. She has an idea, she presents it, but ever since Duchamp (who did something unusual and different, but to show that he is the master of his surrounding, that he is not just some 'stupid painter'), people have been changing their perception of what art actually is, I think we've crossed some borders and somehow we've lost 'it'.
It is not about shock here. If you are shocked by nudity you have not seen enough art work.
Abramovic is one of the most groundbreaking artists for her time. (Late 60's- early 70's body and performance art). She is one of those rare artists who can still make work that speaks to today.
The work clearly talks about mortality. It is the best choice for her to be naked here. She would look stupid fully clothed doing this.
hm... okay, well, i guess you seem to miss the first few words in my comment - "in my personal opinion".
i do study art history, but i still think that some artists (SOME, not all of them) do stuff to be the center of attention. i DO know what the concept and the idea of modern art is, though.
Of course it is your opinion. What else would it be?
If you don't think this is art than you completely miss the point of Duchamp's work. You have referenced him in your comment yet you do not understand his most important contribution to the Art World. After Duchamp's Fountain anything can be art. It is all about the artist's intention. If the artist says it is art, it is. Period. The "what is art" debate was crushed by Duchamp about 100 years ago.
Whether you personally like it or not is a whole other matter. It might suck to you. Perhaps you think it is heavy handed and sensationalist but there is no denying that it is art.
On the contrary, I think there must always be the possibility to deny that something is art. It is by questioning and by poking holes in theories, ideas and assumptions that we bring out the best in what we call contemporary art. You could lighten up somewhat. :)
Sorry but the "What is art?" is a tired and obsolete debate. It is not up to the viewer to determine what is art and what is not. The artist decides that. It is all about the intention of the maker.
I don't think it is obsolete, and if you perhaps take into account relational or dialogical aesthetics (Bourriard, Kester, and Kwon, she's cool), there are very current questions about the intention of the maker. After all, seating art's meaning in the intention of the maker is an essentialist message, which is Modern, not post-mod. Not that I agree with zhn, but I personally try to give more equal weight to comments that don't seem to fit the structure of how we should talk about art.
You need to hit those Art History 101 books a little harder ..."i DO know what the concept and the idea of modern art is". You need to study your art periods if you are calling Abramovic's work Modern. Modern refers to the period from the L.19th century to approximately the M.20th Century - hence the term Modernism. Modern artists are the likes of Picasso, Klee, Georgia O'Keeffe Abramovic is a Contemporary artist, if anything she is Postmodern, a rejection of the Modern.
what i'm saying is that art is dead. and please don't say that us, mortals, aren't good enough to say whether something should be called art or not. anyone can become an artist nowadays. i can hang a fish on a wall, write a short novel and wr
what i'm saying is that art is dead. and please don't say that us, mortals, aren't good enough to say whether something should be called art or not. anyone can become an artist nowadays. i can hang a fish on a wall and call it a piece of art, write a short novel and an interesting biography, some ideas that came across my mind
while I was high or something, and people will call me an artist. I'm not saying Marina did that, I'm just saying that everything became too relative.
Things are not so simple .If anyone could become an artist with a so simple way without dedication to art then it would be a simple way for all to earn money easily. But artists are people dedicated to what they do. They have passion. They are not just people who hang a fish on a wall and call it art. Many try to become artists without love for art and the only thing they achieve is failure.Prejudices and unwillingness to accept new ideas are very big obstacles for admiring the real art.
When i saw Marina Abramović work in a TV show i fallen in love, she´s a genius. Performance-multimedia-art with a very quality result, full of energy and desolation, with dead touch us to remember that we are alive. sorry by my bad english. i´ll love to see you in México. Please come here Marina.
the weight of death over one. Death and the maiden; the weight of our own bones, our own structure, our own mind estate. our own condition as human beings, the weight of history over us.
Marina the great.
I deeply admire her always
sanchbraj78 3 months ago
wtf is going on here
shnizzlebizzle4rizzl 5 months ago
Does anyone know how long the whole piece lasts for?
HamishCarterable 5 months ago
@HamishCarterable 700 hours... i kid you not
Skrimpish 3 months ago
@Skrimpish wow thats amazing. Marina's work just keeps getting more and more fascinating!
HamishCarterable 2 months ago
Fascinating piece
PtAltmVansanTarr 6 months ago
What the hell is this....someone throw a pie!
gmastasquirrel 7 months ago
See more of the amazing Marina Abramovic for i-D Magazine on SWELL NY's channel!
swellny 8 months ago
I'm nude every day, and every single day all of you walk around completely naked
RedCloudBeechWaveAhh 8 months ago
Yes, yes... Very nice metaphor of a live/death!
Bravo MA!
iliKoy 10 months ago
This isn't art, art is something the average person, like me, doesn't have the talent for.
Anyone can lay naked under a plastic skeleton and "say" it's a profound statement.
imallpissedoff 10 months ago
@imallpissedoff .......you think so do you?but having the concept and the guts to perform it is not everyone cup of tee now is it? Or you done any (naked) performance lately ;-) no? didnt think so !
inner5pace 10 months ago
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Oh come on, she's laying naked...on the floor...under a plastic skeleton.
And, I don't think it takes guts for her to do this, she's obviously an exhibitionist, she loves it!
imallpissedoff 10 months ago
@imallpissedoff
I take it you never produced anything art related, be it a painting, sculpture, performance or other?? Because if you did, you would have a deeper insight to appreciate the energy put into a performance and in reverse; coming out of it. Of course she would "love" creating this performance, which however does not mean it doesn't take courage too. But I am afraid my perception and understanding is lost on you. and so is Marinas. Why observe any art, if you can not engage??
inner5pace 10 months ago
@inner5pace
Hey, I totally get it.
I'm nude, and I've tied peppered salami slices to every part of my body.
I shall now yell louder and louder at my neighbor's garage door, while my friend videos the entire performance.
imallpissedoff 10 months ago
@imallpissedoff yes,YES!GENIUS!
nikola1389 9 months ago
@imallpissedoff Thank you! finally someone who doesn't buy into this crap!
brunesmask 8 months ago
Must be her ex's skeleton.
And, if this is art then we're all I'm Rembrandt, Picasso, Da Vinci, and Michelangelo all rolled into one!
She sure looks nice naked, though.
I hope she makes some more "art."
imallpissedoff 11 months ago 3
I think she's a genious. If she's ever coming to holland I really want to see some of her work.
soFphietjke 1 year ago
stroke this bone dry!
hornyboyrealhornet 1 year ago
This image speaks volumes. Some people think art is dead, when we die...we will be a skeleton, a skeleton is what forms when you are in the womb...I can go on and on
jillaaree 1 year ago
@jillaaree well... the image is not really this "era"....
telecake 1 year ago
smoke some joint and do the same...
art can be anything, ok, but do not talk about WORK....not appropriate for contemporary art most of time....
monQsurlaKomod 1 year ago
Amazing as always
gplaka 1 year ago
The person you love is just a skeleton.
thisisryanblood 1 year ago
life and death and mankind!
MIDJOBZ 1 year ago
I published this video on the Dutch website WELSTIJL (27 august) Kind regards Sem Mallée
welstijlfilms 1 year ago
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THIS IS SO STUPID....SHES AN OLD SKANK
srpskiheroi 1 year ago
feel it.
r0inconnu 1 year ago
Live or Dead !
gunterralfwalter 1 year ago
Never have I seen life breathed into a skeleton, and possibly Death itself, quite like this. This is an even more effective expression of pushing the fragility of life into the territory of the finality of Death than skeletons dancing to fast, hollow sounding xylophone music.
00RockyAngel00 1 year ago 3
In the current climate of Contemporary art there are three qualifications for international museum exhibitions: 1. your last name 2. who you know in the art world 3. family members who are interconnected .
xwaystranger 1 year ago
Thoughts: The circularity of life and the passing thereof. Her breath becomes death's breath. She lives and therefore dies, or is dead and therefore, once lived..and perhaps lives on in other ways (skeleton=residual effect of human life on Earth and on other people and things). It could represent mortality's burden or the weight of death. She knows she'll die, thus the exhilarated or terrified breathing in the exciting or sad knowledge of what it means to live. Ride or watch, but no restraints.
Tempestflare04 1 year ago
I met Marina today in Montenegro, and she is really artist of 21th century!
Geminorum5 1 year ago
this is utterly beautiful. you just need to be on a higher stage of consciousness to understand something like this. there are people who cant see or understand things beyond a point, their understanding is limited and cant exceed the physical body. i feel sad for all people writing dirty comments here. and marina your fabulous. would love to see more work coming from you
gaurysachdeva 1 year ago 4
fuck you, marina.
vanvalldrey 1 year ago
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She is a sick, unhealthy person with deep mental illness, who may negativly impact on people! This is NOT an art - this is a cynical explotation of sexual perversions of unhealthy spoiled Western society!
kalek100 1 year ago
@kalek100 I feel this comment very much justifies everything that Marina does. You just proved the worth of her art.
b3autifu1Di5a5tr 1 year ago
@kalek100 you just want to have sex with her
Kapojos 1 year ago
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@Kapojos are stupid pervert as she is!
She is so ugly and toooooooooooo old for me!
If you have normal sexual relationships with somebody you just would not pay attention to Marina's deviations a.k.a "modern art"!
I just wonder how people may make money (as Marina does) on their perversions!!! Bravo Marina! And bravo to you, fuck her if you could!
kalek100 1 year ago
@kalek100 haha, but what is so very sexual perverted about her work?? especially about this one? i actually totally did not notice any sexual connections in this work, i was thinking of others things when i watched this piece. there are some estheatic elements like the soft contact with the skeleton and her skin while its smoothly moving up and down as she breaths. which makes this dead object subtle come to live and in contact
so im curious what is bothering you so much about this performance.
Kapojos 1 year ago 4
@kalek100 Open your mind a bit.
ManyMovements 1 year ago
Marina is wonderful , what a sexy 63 year old I am a male artists model and contemporary dancer , I always perform nude as this allows the ARTIST or AUDIENCE to be totally free of any distractions. The best costume is NO COSTUME
flashbiddy 1 year ago
it's amazing what kind of art marina is promoting, really limitless and truly inspiring. too bad that in her own country, in serbia, she isn't understood in real way and even that known.
cinkilinkica 1 year ago
this is retarded. attentionwhoree
OdeToNecrophilia 1 year ago
@OdeToNecrophilia They call it "art". Stupid French ppl... Zis is porn.
GorSthak 1 year ago
@GorSthak bahaha no its nto porn because the chick is ugly who would jackoff to this stupidity
OdeToNecrophilia 1 year ago
Ass Vs ash
LeonAmarantos 1 year ago
Where is the art? I saw this same trick at the strip club on halloween.
ladygodia 1 year ago 2
i dont get how when people watch they cry. will someone explain
ConnerDrummer 1 year ago
can I just say that if I didn't take my art history course, I would seriously be confused. I mean, I'm an artist myself but I work with more traditional things and so before I took that class, I really didn't understand modern art at all. I liked it for anesthetic reasons but I really didn't think of the meaning behind it. To tell you the truth, I absolutely HATE my art history class, but I don't regret taking it one bit. It makes you appreciate and understand art so much more...
kittykatlover206 1 year ago 2
Are you a necrophiliac? Crazy ass bitch
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When I saw her at MoMA, another artist performed along with her. His name is Amir Baradaran, he has a website but I think hes got videos on youtube also
NiaNewYork 1 year ago
i wish i could see her at moma! she is amazing.
RLBscoring 1 year ago
Art died? Wrong. There never was any.
2933034 1 year ago
saw her today at MoMA. Amazing.
drfes0607 1 year ago 6
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total artistic bullshit propagated by dubious erotism
ian0green 2 years ago
true.
eeedel 1 year ago
''mr chubbington''
id like to see you come up with something as amazing as this!!
aimee1301 2 years ago 2
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Doesn't take much to amaze people these days? Sad world we live in. Anyway , time will erode all the superficiality away ..all in time.
MrChubbington 2 years ago
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there is not a trace of superficiality in Abramovic's work. In essence, the performance itself is dead without the presence of the audience. Performance art cannot be bought nor sold, it gives. True some of this work may be considered challenging without background, but don't just pass this off as the world's superficiality. You are being ignorant.
felicitygiselle 1 year ago 2
I like the way her body gives life to the skeleton through her breathing..
And I love how this video has som much more views thans her others. Nudity on youtube is a mega hit! ;)
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What a load of pretentious shite!
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22hungarianpainter 2 years ago
Sorry about being too prolix, but I feel I needed to speak my mind here even though it is not the best place.
If it helps, read about asceticism and the act of achieving spriritual bliss through self-immolation. I believe someone said it here before that she was the granddaughter of Varnava, a serbian patriarch of the Eastern Orthodox Church. That has a lot to do with the way her perfomances are dealt with, the absence of food, alcohol and sleep.
Take care,
Victor.
armyofmeisbliss 2 years ago 5
Spot on Victor :)
b1dance 2 years ago
About the meaning being arbitrary. There is NO meaning, but meanings. The skeleton may be hers through projection, as it follows the same position she has. There is a logic here, but that does not mean I am right.
I don't think arbitrary is the word. If I explain to you the meaning of my work, I am selling it short to you, making it easy for you to understand the effort I had to come up with an image of death, dying or the permance of residues (skeleton) when we part.
armyofmeisbliss 2 years ago
the problem here is that effort reads in the eye of most people as strenuous physical work and not as mental elucubration and the capacity of creating an image that may distress, disturb, enrage or move in any other way.
I don't think this work is a tour de force in no way, but just think about it for a while and try to get in touch with the possible particular meaning of this.
armyofmeisbliss 2 years ago
Thank you for this video. I must work on Art, Body and Living and it's a nice surprise to find her work here.
It's true, Contemporary Art is not easy to understand for everybody, but art is living with the Time, we can't always made some "paintings with beautiful flowers". Her art is really poetic, involved and strong.
Don't judge before understand what it means. But don't love just because it call "art".
(and sorry for my bad english)
heypoison 2 years ago
its only senseless and bad
schw4tte 2 years ago
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this isnt art. its crap. art died.
M4RC0SM0 2 years ago
That skeleton was thinking this woman is crap in bed, she doesnt know what to do..must be her first time.
markwindows 2 years ago
Give her a paint brush and we'll see how much of an artist she is.
shaymultimedia 2 years ago
contemporary art does not measure how good you are by how good you paint.
armyofmeisbliss 2 years ago
You are right. But this is no good news ;)
alnicov2001 2 years ago
If you read about contemporary art and about what artists have to say, you begin to realize the deeper layers of meaning a simple video like this has.
Problem is most people stop on the visual layer. That's ok if you make beautiful paintings, but really bad if you do what Marina does. Now, she is talking to people with a broader vocabulary of meanings and most people don't understand.
armyofmeisbliss 2 years ago 3
It is, as you say, contemporary and for it is not to be judgded by first sight, the meaning is arbitrary. The problem with this art is, that there is not really an intention to mediate any type of sense.
Saying that she only uses a broader bandwith of vocabulary is - in my opinion - glorification of her work. She most likely provocates. Whatever. I guess she does not really know by herself. In fact, what you can see is a true example of showmanship.
Kathrinoyo 2 years ago
you may be right, although I think, after reading her books and interviews that she actually has no intention of making her work ressonate one meaning only. Of course, this sounds like she's evading thinking about her work and just using rhetoric.
I do believe I was glorifying her work without knowing why, because I have some serious doubts about this issue, but instead of vivisecting every showman I simply view the work as an experience to be felt and thought about, like a movie.
armyofmeisbliss 2 years ago
I see the honey, and the blade, the blood, the star, the skull and the body to be symbolic tools used by the artist to communicate a spiritual/carnal way of cleasing, purifying, desecrating, stressing, wounding and marking the figure of the artist and all that is human.
Again, this may sound like pretentious crap but you can also see aborigenes doing their trance rituals and scoff, saying it is showmanship. Maybe it is, but the fact the person believes there is something there, makes it real.
armyofmeisbliss 2 years ago
now art is free of art.
it died and ir raised again, as a zombie.
gotinjteevs 3 years ago
art is not dead.. people think that with contemporary art, the art dies.. but is not that..the art reborns and transforms. now art is not about beauty anymore is about human conscience and social reality.now art is free of prejuice and rules. The important part is the meaning of the Work of art and not how it looks like. so art didn't die it just reborn =)
amymahaly 3 years ago 64
@amymahaly
"Now, art is not about beauty anymore is about human conscience and social reality.now art is free of prejuice and rules."
I believe "art" stripped of beauty is no longer art, as I believe art is ultimately a moral act. It isn't enough to collapse into the easy smugness of the Observer, combing the detritus that is modernity to say, "Look! Detritus!" An artist, in my opinion, is one who points to ALL that it means to be fully human, not just the smoldering cinders.
nustermeister 1 year ago
@nustermeister Eloquently expressed, thank you.
Gowanee1 1 year ago
@amymahaly This is what you call art! It is a naked lady with a stupid plastic skeleton on top of her! WOW, I wish I could've thought of that. Simple things for simple minds...Try some Norman Rockwell, uh, that's talent. If there is some hidden meaning here, please share it.
spyle2254 1 year ago
@spyle2254
well, the simple fact that you NEVER thought of that before Marina Abramovic did shows that it's not as simple as you say... Norman Rockwell is good, but you just can't compare them. Rockwell worked between 1920 and the sixties, while Abramovic is a lving artist which keeps doing great performances, and they have different means of expression.And how can you say her art does not have meanings? It's pure ignorance, sorry. Or is art to you just ''pleasing the eyes of the observer?''
MissV0id 1 year ago 3
@spyle2254 the key here being that you didn't think of it. norman rockwell is boring.
emilywilco 1 year ago
@emilywilco No, I agree with you. Nudity is definitely more exciting than Norman Rockwell
spyle2254 1 year ago
@amymahaly I understand what you are saying, and it is certainly true about Ms Abramovic's work - but please don't make a general statement that art is not about beauty anymore. There are still artists whose work is about beauty. Art can be a reflection of many aspects of existence - beauty is one of them. Think of the aesthetic choices Ms Abramovic makes - in the careful draping of her red garment as she faces each person, for example.
Gowanee1 1 year ago
@amymahaly You are obviously retarded. This shit isn't art.
xxdiogenescynicxx 1 year ago
@amymahaly it's just transforming
ludalo 1 year ago
@amymahaly Art cannot be transformed to something else than it is art sadly is dieing and transforms in to something whats called philosophy. a good art work have to "stimulate human conscience and social reality" but, throng stable and strong technica and scientific research, or by good intuition. And most importantly. The artwork have to talk about itself, so no one should give my 5 page explanation why the person wasn't able to crate something that tells me more than any word in the world
Baleynt 1 year ago
@amymahaly Pre - JUICE! before juice!
laleldon 11 months ago
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Pretty nice body, marina. Wth all respect which is due, I'd certainly "do" ya! :D I guess this is some of that stupid "performance art" I've always heard of. But I suppose I was never gullible and pretentious enough to pretend that I cared about it, like so many of you fools! Ha!
jthomas12793 3 years ago
You are a trucker!
aki44 2 years ago
Hahaha! WTF does THAT mean? Never heard that one before...what country are you from? :) LOL
jthomas12793 2 years ago
Thickheaded Truck Driver, stop pretending you don't get it!
aki44 2 years ago
Heh! Sure thing, dollface...whatever you say, lil' sensitive soul! :D
jthomas12793 2 years ago
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aki44 2 years ago
sexy
warlockboyburns 3 years ago
I am from Serbia, where Marina Abramovic was born, and I must say that, if you want to understand Marina, you need to know ortodox filosofy (my English is not so good, sorry).
Furthermore, ascetism is the WAY from which you come to transcedence. But what transcendence? What is our final destination? Freedom of mind? God? Which God? She doesn't want to say, but she knows...
She is grandoughter of Varnava, serbian patriarch which was before Pavle.
pavlijox 3 years ago 3
Art was my first love in life but I'll try not to get too artsy fartsy with my comment. What I get from this when I watch, that is my interpretation, is she saying "look at what I am and what I will become" or "flesh eventually becomes bone". I like this type of art form.
ShesAccurseD 3 years ago 3
spretty good
summerease 3 years ago
Ecco qui la comunicazione è chiara.
I LIKE IT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MAURO
mariglianomauro 3 years ago
oh ... como dice mi maestra de teoria del arte: si lo hago y te espantas, te quedas en shock, porque no hacerlo?
bammbolita 3 years ago
I don't agree. This is art. People, like you, watch this, because it is shocking. And shocking is entertainment. This is what called Agressive Art. Shocking people is one of the best ways to make your statement. And isn't that what art is all about, making a statement?
xxlise 3 years ago
My personal opinion is that this can not be called a piece of art. I see, there is some point she tries to express, she shocks people, she is naked, good for her. She has an idea, she presents it, but ever since Duchamp (who did something unusual and different, but to show that he is the master of his surrounding, that he is not just some 'stupid painter'), people have been changing their perception of what art actually is, I think we've crossed some borders and somehow we've lost 'it'.
zhnj123 3 years ago
You need to study art history.
It is not about shock here. If you are shocked by nudity you have not seen enough art work.
Abramovic is one of the most groundbreaking artists for her time. (Late 60's- early 70's body and performance art). She is one of those rare artists who can still make work that speaks to today.
The work clearly talks about mortality. It is the best choice for her to be naked here. She would look stupid fully clothed doing this.
bluetigerlily 3 years ago 2
hm... okay, well, i guess you seem to miss the first few words in my comment - "in my personal opinion".
i do study art history, but i still think that some artists (SOME, not all of them) do stuff to be the center of attention. i DO know what the concept and the idea of modern art is, though.
that was just my humble opinion, nothing more.
zhnj123 3 years ago
Of course it is your opinion. What else would it be?
If you don't think this is art than you completely miss the point of Duchamp's work. You have referenced him in your comment yet you do not understand his most important contribution to the Art World. After Duchamp's Fountain anything can be art. It is all about the artist's intention. If the artist says it is art, it is. Period. The "what is art" debate was crushed by Duchamp about 100 years ago.
bluetigerlily 3 years ago
Whether you personally like it or not is a whole other matter. It might suck to you. Perhaps you think it is heavy handed and sensationalist but there is no denying that it is art.
bluetigerlily 3 years ago
On the contrary, I think there must always be the possibility to deny that something is art. It is by questioning and by poking holes in theories, ideas and assumptions that we bring out the best in what we call contemporary art. You could lighten up somewhat. :)
happeningfish77 3 years ago 2
Sorry but the "What is art?" is a tired and obsolete debate. It is not up to the viewer to determine what is art and what is not. The artist decides that. It is all about the intention of the maker.
bluetigerlily 3 years ago 2
I don't think it is obsolete, and if you perhaps take into account relational or dialogical aesthetics (Bourriard, Kester, and Kwon, she's cool), there are very current questions about the intention of the maker. After all, seating art's meaning in the intention of the maker is an essentialist message, which is Modern, not post-mod. Not that I agree with zhn, but I personally try to give more equal weight to comments that don't seem to fit the structure of how we should talk about art.
happeningfish77 3 years ago
You need to hit those Art History 101 books a little harder ..."i DO know what the concept and the idea of modern art is". You need to study your art periods if you are calling Abramovic's work Modern. Modern refers to the period from the L.19th century to approximately the M.20th Century - hence the term Modernism. Modern artists are the likes of Picasso, Klee, Georgia O'Keeffe Abramovic is a Contemporary artist, if anything she is Postmodern, a rejection of the Modern.
bluetigerlily 3 years ago 2
You completely misunderstood what i was trying to say. Yes, the idea is that everything CAN be art, but I think some people exaggerate.
[oh, and as for modern - you're right, sorry. I really cant remember why I wrote that. maybe i wanted to say postmodern, lapsus lingue.]
I really can't explain it to you, you keep telling your story, I keep telling mine, whatever. You're not even trying to get what i'm trying to say,
so i'll just leave it that way, and you go um.. starve a dog or smth.
zhnj123 3 years ago
I understood what you said.
You clearly do not know Abramovic's work.
bluetigerlily 3 years ago
what i'm saying is that art is dead. and please don't say that us, mortals, aren't good enough to say whether something should be called art or not. anyone can become an artist nowadays. i can hang a fish on a wall, write a short novel and wr
zhnj123 3 years ago
what i'm saying is that art is dead. and please don't say that us, mortals, aren't good enough to say whether something should be called art or not. anyone can become an artist nowadays. i can hang a fish on a wall and call it a piece of art, write a short novel and an interesting biography, some ideas that came across my mind
while I was high or something, and people will call me an artist. I'm not saying Marina did that, I'm just saying that everything became too relative.
zhnj123 3 years ago
Things are not so simple .If anyone could become an artist with a so simple way without dedication to art then it would be a simple way for all to earn money easily. But artists are people dedicated to what they do. They have passion. They are not just people who hang a fish on a wall and call it art. Many try to become artists without love for art and the only thing they achieve is failure.Prejudices and unwillingness to accept new ideas are very big obstacles for admiring the real art.
arwen987 3 years ago 4
She is my favourite artist of all time. Absolutely astoundingly brilliant.
b1dance 3 years ago 3
La belle dame sans merci...
idée lumineuse!
5*****'s
~ Tim
spotswoodthenewt 3 years ago 2
Totally a genius, I adore her!
recyclopath 3 years ago 3
A body associating with an object of a skeleton, interesting.
heyamme 3 years ago 2
Weird Genius!!!!
simoin 4 years ago 3
When i saw Marina Abramović work in a TV show i fallen in love, she´s a genius. Performance-multimedia-art with a very quality result, full of energy and desolation, with dead touch us to remember that we are alive. sorry by my bad english. i´ll love to see you in México. Please come here Marina.
titanamakinta 4 years ago 2
the weight of death over one. Death and the maiden; the weight of our own bones, our own structure, our own mind estate. our own condition as human beings, the weight of history over us.
'weird' or 'genius' are no comment.
Medeatonal 4 years ago 25
Weird.
Pedocide 4 years ago
weird? NO, G E N I U S!!!
aira9art 4 years ago
genius
hollyhollydolly 4 years ago