1985-86 Boston Celtics @ Los Angeles Lakers (2nd Half)

[TheBrainMachine78]

Parish = Kareem's bitch

[greendynasty32]

@hazmat1000 Many ask the same thing and thats why many don't understand how great was the 87 Lakers team. Or they don't want to. 1.Magic was not pass first any more. You had to choose what to guard. 2. AC Green was starting and he was SHOOTING BIG FRON 15-16 feet. That was a reason that in 86 the Lakers where struggling. That resulted to Kareem have one big man to worry about. 3. Thompson. Everyone makes comparison with the role of Walton on 86 C's. Thompson made that team THE BEST. Why?

[greendynasty32]

@greendynasty32 Thompson was a big man that he could run the floor so he could play with Kareem and still Lakers had a 4 men fast break. He coyld shoot to keep the Sampsons the Waltons and the McHales outside the paint and he was by far the best matchup against Kevin McHale. 4. They tried to add Lucas in the mix to take McAdoo's place on offence and that wasn;t the case in 86. Green and Thompson worked like magic and had BEHIND THEM the 86 starter Rumbis, only a banger, not a scorer like AC

[greendynasty32]

@greendynasty32 5. Whorthy and Scot were having career years and they where both good not only at scoring the ball but also distributing, Scot on the break and Worthy on the post. Those two continued their imrovement next season and made the 1988 Championship possible. 6. Kareem was aging but that was the lst year that he didn't just have glimpses of his greatness. He had a great year and he had the chance to play only as much he was in shape having Thompson behind him and Magic scoring too.

[greendynasty32]

@greendynasty32 That team could compete just fine against any great team in history because they had the half court game they could run they could bang they could create on the fast break and in the post, and they had a great depth of rebounders. So, Peter May can right 20 books about the 86 season but they weren't the ones that could translate their games to what the game needed every single time. Boston was 40-1 at home? Well with Thompson LA had olso only 1 loss at home and was 33-5 overall.

[greendynasty32]

@greendynasty32 excuse me excuse me in 33 games they had 5 losses. 4 on the road and the 2 of 4 were the last two games of the RS when the team was resting and Kareem and Magic's minutes where diminished with Kareem not playing in the last game at all. That team could compete with anyone. Fast slow half court fast break. What ever you wan't. Bird knew what was coming when the San Antonio made the deal for Thompson and was mad about "Spurs helping the Lakers" Does that reminds us something? haha

[Seaverful]

For the Record, during 6 seasons between 80-81 and 85-86, The Celtics beat the Lakers more times than the Lakers beat them. These were the Celtics' best and healthiest years. And in 87' and 88 The Lakers ripped them off in two of their wins, and beat them by three points or less in at least 3 of their victories. 86' Celtics..best team ever. They won this game at The Forum...WITHOUT Kevin McHale. Check out Peter May's book "The Last Banner" the story of the 86' Celtics, The NBA's best team ever"

[dreman1970]

86 Celts greatest of all time?? I don't know about that....They were great....but there were teams that were every bit as good (71 Bucks, 72 Lakers, 83 Sixers, heck the 73 Knicks you can put in there....they BEAT a CELTIC team that actually won more games than the 86 team (68) in the 7th game AT Boston, then beat the defending champion Lakers on THEIR floor). The 72 Lakers won 33 games in a row....

[BCH19821091]

@dreman1970 those "73 knicks" barely beat a celtic team in 7gms with no havlicek and the shitty garbage 82-83 celts split the season series with the 83 sixers. i wanna rethink ur statement jr?

the answer is 86 celtics greatest of all time

[dreman1970]

@BCH19821091 Okay first off, the 73 Celtics were not JUST havlicek...and the Knicks STILL did something that NOBODY had done up til that point and that's beat the Celtics in a 7th game...And the 83 Sixers may have split the season series with boston (and they were arch rivals so records mean NOTHING with those two), but who had the better PLAYOFFS between the 86 Celts and the 83 Sixers?? The Sixers lost ONCE in the ENTIRE PLAYOFFS....BEST RECORD EVER in the POSTSEASON...

[dreman1970]

To all you guys who say the 86 Lakers would have gotten "crushed" by the 86 Celtics. The Rockets who were completely outmatched won 2 games against Boston. You don't think the Lakers couldve won at LEAST 2?? The Celts would have PROBABLY won, but you also forget if LA gets there they wouldve had the motivation of going back to back and they had gotten swept in the regular season.

[mkkiwan]

Wow. These were the days

[jimsy73]

I miss the old Forum...

[Stalley75]

Goddamn was Kareem an offensive power house. He always seemed so old and slow, but goddamn, in 1985, he was fast and unstoppable---and he was like 38 then! Imagine Shaq (a fat ass, injured ridden lazy, one dimensional yet with god gifted ability) doing what kareem did when he was 38? Shaq, what a fucking waste.

[MrBolas33]

Man, the NBA was fun to watch back then.

[fearmonster13]

there's always blood bath between lakers and celtics, and its still on since now. damn, nothing new!

[rafikz77]

No tacos !

[ReekoChet]

86' Celdicks my ass....! If they were that good then they would've beaten the Lakers in 87' and reclaimed the title of Back to Back Champions. They didn't because THAT WAS THE TEAM OF THE DECADE....87' LAKERS....! They proved it by beating the PissOns in 88' and going Back to Back. Unlike the 86' Celdicks who lost in 87' to the Lakers....! Who the fuck started that bullshit rumor...!

[TheSuperEupher]

@ReekoChet Fuck You.

[ReekoChet]

@TheSuperEupher Ha Ha Ha .... No...FUCK YOURSELF...YOU'LL GET MORE PUSSY.....!  Ha Ha Ha....! XP feel free to use that one when you see your team the Celdicks....or maybe when your boyfriend says fuck you....! Ha Ha Ha....! It's all just for shits and giggles...I'm just fuckin' wit you....! I like the Celdicks ain't nothin' like fan rivalry....! I hope to see you bastards next year. Shit, I hope I see the Lakers next year...fuckin' Mike Brown...!

[hazmat1000]

@ReekoChet If that is the case, then why did the Lakers not go ahead and just win the title in 86? I mean, that is only one year's difference as well??? Lakers or Celtics in the 80's was a coin flip on who was better. Both teams had all time greats on them and its why either one or both was in every finals of the 80s.

[ReekoChet]

@hazmat1000 "If that is the case, then why did the Celdicks not go ahead and just win the title in 88?" See how stupid your question is...?

[hazmatone1]

@ReekoChet By 88, the Celtics team were past their prime.

[hazmat1000]

@hazmat1000 How were the 87 Lakers so much different than the 86 Lakers?

[badpdx]

@hazmat1000" the 87 Lakers Mychal Thompson and A.C. Green instead of Maurice Lucas.

[bootiack]

jesus lakers hakin shit outa DJ no calls

[clubhouseme]

I like the 87 Lakers chances against the 86 celtics!

[ErikS1975FreeState]

I still can't believe that the Rockets beat the Lakers in the 86 Western Finals. The NBA Finals that years should've been Lakers vs Celtics Round 3.

[mrho4speed]

Thanks for uploading the second half of this game. Two great teams showing how the game should be played. Too bad todays players jump from team to team seeking money and titles instead of building a team and establishing a style and their own legacy. Maybe the NBA should only allow a player in the HOF if he plays 10 years with 1 team?

[radiolaugh]

what a pass by Magic around 1:20

[logjammers]

my bad,the gimpy guard was in 89....still though,they only beat Detroit who cakewalked in over the crippled Celts.

[TheBrainMachine78]

I love all this "what if?" bullshit from Celtic fans. "If the Lakers had made the Finals in '86 they would have lost". Maybe, but I could just as easily say the same thing with regards to the Celtics. If they had made the FInals in 1980,1982 and 1988, instead of crapping out in the conference finals, the Lakers would have easily won.

Lakers = team of the '80s

'87 Lakers = greatest team of all-time

[logjammers]

@TheBrainMachine78 yah,real impressive.

They beat Detroit with a gimpy point guard who in turn had defeated a Boston team(oh ya,the one who beat your darlings the prior year),who were without 3 of their 4 front line players..pretty strong credentials for best team ever.lol

They may have been second best ever,they still tower over the Chicago teams,but the 86 Boston team was without question the most perfect basketball team ever assembled. Congrats this year tho, I am really happy for Kobe.

[jefmered]

I don't think Laker fans really give this 86 Celtic team its due. Even if the Lakers got past the Rockets, there was no way they would beat this Celtic team and its frontline. Boston had a much better bench in 86 than in 87 -- Walton made a difference. I would agree that the 85 Lakers and 87 Lakers were decidedly better than the Celtics ... and the Lakers should've won it in 84, but they were soft back then.

[celticsarebest]

I wish the lakers beat the rockets,then lose to the celtics.what if Len bias did not die? The celtics would have been better in 87-90.

[jefmered]

With Bias, the Celtics would have had the firepower to hold off the Pistons and keep playing the Lakers in the Finals. Hell, with Bias and Reggie and a player like Tim Hardaway (whom they could've chosen instead of Michael Smith in 1989), they would've held off the Bulls in the early 90s. But Bias died and Red became senile (Smith - not only a draft bust but a bad human being ... he's a Clipper broadcaster now). And Larry's back, McHale's foot, on and on ... which is why the Celtics peaked in 86

[415Riggs]

@celticsarebest what??? the Laker showtime break of 87 led by magic would have smoked the old knee;d celtics oh wait??? they did.

[415Riggs]

@jefmered i hear ya.... even after the l.a. beat em badly in 85....86 was diff. boston was pissed. i still think that a healthy laker team vs a healthy celtic team would have favored the Champs. however the lakes met with ralph sampson.... 87 kind made the statement though. just a younger, faster , healthier Magic mvp Lakers were way too much. remember the Lakers were in transition from Kareem to Magic in the 86 season. result? 87 mvp for earvin

[415Riggs]

@jefmered lol ur right but they won the last 2-3 nba championships. i dont think they were soft just had to overcome the "Garden" mystique and a history of celtic domination. well future years told the story.

[Shawshank23]

1986 celtics was best team ever (with healthy walton)

1987 showtime lakers was close second

and the rest...

[19PHS74]

u know ur basketball.

[Flipper79able]

This just goes to show the Lakers would have had no chance in beating Boston in the 86 season, if they had made it to the finals. They lost twice to Boston in the regular season.

[rainrunner1]

I agree but not based on the regular season games. Remember UTAH swept the Bulls in 98 and got beaten pretty convincingly in the finals.

In 86 Bostons run the playoffs in the words of Don Nelson "The Celtics are playing on another Basketball Planet" would have probably beating LA soundly.

I so wanted to see a healthy Walton against Jabbar in the finals that year. Too bad

[FrsBigeasy]

Another great Chapter in the Greatest Rivalry in NBA History.

[gocelts34n7]

My favorite celtic team ever

SO DOMINANT

[415Riggs]

no no no magic missed a few free throws and boston slipped in with the 84 championship. 85 was domination of athletes vs old guys and 87 was an absolute joke. the lakers were learning how powerful they were in 84 and how to overcome that boston garden crap. lakers totally smoked them after that.

[13war25]

415Riggs-1985...1987.What about 1986 fool?

[adheckle]

87 was a so called joke because of how handicapped the Celtics were by injuries. Imagine the Lakers in the finals if James Worthy had a broken foot, Kareem a sprained ankle, Byron Scott with an injured hamstring and no help off the bench because your two best reserves were out for the season. 1986 showed how unbeatable the Celtics were when they were healthy and had depth.

[rainrunner1]

I won't deny that LA by virtue of the first 3 games should have Swept Boston that year but you have to be able to finish games and the Lakers couldn't in 84.

In 85 the Lakers were the better team on both ends of the floor but I still wonder what a healthy Larry Bird could have done that year.

[415Riggs]

the bulls would have no chance against a young magic and worthy. bill cartwright could not guard kareem. our bench players would have destroyed chicago.

[rainrunner1]

Would love to match up a few of these Laker and Celtics squads with some of the Jordan teams. I think the front court match ups would heavily favor L.A. and Boston but those would be some titanic battles.

[celticsarebest]

Too bad this matchup was not the 86 finals.the celtics would have still won,and the teams would have played in 4 strait finals (84-87)with both teams winning 2 each insted of lakers winning 2 of 3.If Len Bais played in 87 that finals could have possibly gone the celtics way.The lakers were the better team in 85.

[rainrunner1]

I was so looking froward to that rematch but it would have been a blood bath. There was no way Boston was loosing that year.

[gocelts34n7]

me too

[huskerfan50]

Great dunk my Worthy at 3:04 poor Bill Walton helpless. Worthy in my opinion to quickest forward ever to play he could be by you and dunk it before you could move.

[rockjohnson80]

Walton was destroyed by Big Game James on that dunk at 3:04 !!!!

[ace11rothstein]

And yet the Celtics, w/o McHale, still fuckin' won.

[rainrunner1]

Loved Worthy, He sprang like a mouse trap.

[austinbeat]

The passing in this game by both teams is incredible.

[mikeycereal]

Lakers aquired intimidating F Maurice Lucas to try to match up physically with Boston but the strategy failed. Lucas slowed down the Lakers and he was released the following year. If anything, Luke showed AC how to enforce under the boards - and AC could run like the wind, which Boston found out in 87!

[nater479]

nice clip thank you

[KidAJonni]

the forum always looked so dark and the yellow was too bright

[raiderfan14943]

Even if the Lakers did make the Finals in '86 they would of had no shot vs the Celtics.

During the regular season the Celtics beat the Lakers @ the Boston Garden by 15 points and @ the Forum by 6 points WITHOUT Kevin McHale.

[WonderBread006]

thats why the lakers beat the team celtics couldnt in 7 games...

[raiderfan14943]

two years later when the Celtics were old and had no bench.

[WonderBread006]

5>3

[raiderfan14943]

The Lakers were better throughout the 80's, but if we are talking about single season team...the '86 Celtics would have beaten any of the lakers teams. And this is coming from a laker fan.

[WonderBread006]

why'd they lose?..i believe you though, im only 17 i dont know that stuff

[rockjohnson80]

THAT' BULL****!!! The Lakers missed the 1986 Finals by a last 2nd shot by Ralph Sampson in the Western Finals. They would not have beaten the 1988 Lakers the year in which Worthy killed everyone who guarded him.

[raiderfan14943]

You obviously need a history lesson. The Rockets beat the Lakers in 5 games in the WCF. It wasn't even a close series.

[rockjohnson80]

The series would have been extended though.

[raiderfan14943]

But it didn't. So stfu.

[rockjohnson80]

Your name alone explains you...lol!! Raiders...please dude do us a favor and lick Al Davis.

[Jiltedin2007]

@raiderfan14943 I'll put the '72 Lakers against ANY Celtics team. And this is coming from a Lakers Fan!

[natedaug1]

@raiderfan14943 Very true, Lakers overall had more talent, but 86 Celtics one of the best teams in the history of NBA.

[libertatus]

@raiderfan14943 The '86 Celtics were scary plus they had the no, 1 pick the following year with Len Bias. (also a long-time Lakers fan)

[natedaug1]

@raiderfan14943 Yeah, actually the greatest team of all time might have been the 1986 Celtics. Even better than the 1996 Bulls, in my opinion.

[TheBrainMachine78]

@raiderfan14943 This is coming from a pansy-Laker hater.

Not a Laker fan.

FIXED

[rockjohnson80]

Get the hell outta here!!!

[KHayes666]

THIS was the reason the Lakers tanked it against the Rockets in the Western finals.

The Celtics without McHale go into LA with a healthy Bill Walton and beat them, after already beating them earlier in Boston.

The Lakers were TERRIFIED of the Celtics so they purposely lost to the Rockets so they could take the beating from the greatest NBA team in History, the 85-86 Celtics

[TheBrainMachine78]

Yeah, I'm sure the Lakers were just terrified of the same team they whipped soundly in the '85 Finals. They were probably shaking in their boots in 1987 too, right before they clownstomped them in the Finals. Sure thing, homer.

[KHayes666]

The 86 Celtics had a BENCH that was deep enough to be starters elsewhere, the Lakers in 86 didn't have the depth the Celtics did. The 85 and 87 Celtics didn't have the health or rotation the other 2 teams did which is why THAT PARTICULAR YEAR in 86 the Lakers would have been smoked in the Finals.

The 88 Celtics had Mark Acres, Brad Lohaus and Jim Paxson coming off the bench. I'm no homer, they would have been blown out in 5 games by the Lakers. Even I admit that

[TheBrainMachine78]

Don't you think you're overrating the '86 bench a little bit? Walton couldn't start for many teams, at least no effectively. At his age, he was tailor made to come off the bench. Same with Wedman. They were starter material once, but not in 1986. Beyond that, who was starter worthy? Sichting? Thirdkill? I'm not saying the '86 Lakers would have beat the '86 Celtics, but their depth was still greater. They had Maurice Lucas, Cooper, McGee, Rambis, and AC Green coming off the bench.

[KHayes666]

@TheBrainMachine78 Did you watch every single game of the 87 Finals end to end? I have....what I noticed was the games the C's lost...the Celtics would keep the game close (or hold a lead) before falling apart in the end. What happened was the starters were playing 40 minutes a game and were exhausted by the end.

The 86 Celtics bench with a "washed up" Wedman and Walton still were able to give quality minutes and points that weren't there in 87. There's your difference right there.

[Defender80s]

@TheBrainMachine78 They beatem twice and without McHale at L.A

I think u don`t realize the level that McHale had in 86

[TheBrainMachine78]

Sorry, Rambis was a starter. I still like LA's bench though. Crazy depth. Too bad complacency (and a red hot Rockets team) doomed them in '86.

[AceroySangre]

Fuck this is beutiful basketball nothing lik the Golden 80s

1986 Celtics = Best Team Ever

1987 Lakers = Second Best Team Ever

[juniorthug1]

87 lakers were better than boston bandwagon.

[LYONSPOTTER]

The depth of this 1986 Celtics team is what a lot of people do not realize or recall. No McHale in this game? No problem. Go into LA and beat the Lakers on their home court.

[redtailari]

outside jumpers? i never seen that before....

[workouthrd]

Its just plain nuts to suggest that in 87 the Lakers beating the Celtics was somehow due to Johnson being better than Larry Bird. Nonsense.

[logjammers]

we can agree there. With 3 of their 4 main frontline players nearly crippled,they get a mulligan for that year. Comparing Magic and Bird is a ridiculous argument.Magic had the advantage of being taller than all others at his position,hence his advantage there.

No doubt he was a great talent.

 But Larry did things that were truly amazing for a guy going up mainly against guys bigger and stronger than him. Watching the things Bird did made watching basketball one of the biggest joys in life.

[workouthrd]

I wholeheartedly agree that it is a ridiculous argument, the two having played different positions. I especially agree with your comments arout watching Bird play the game of b-ball and what he did on the court being one of the biggest joys in life. I wish we had TNT and ESPN back then so we could have watched much more.

[logjammers]

I think TNTs coverage started somewhere around 85-86,so we got to see Larry at his peak ONLY against Atlanta,which were not bad games to see at all. But ya,I moved from Boston the year they drafted him and of course,he didn't start playing till the following year..so I missed alot.(oops..did I just give away my allegiance?) At least CBS showed us alot of the classic matchups with Philly.(I still have some on tape)awesome basketball back then. I'm starting to sound very old.lol

[workouthrd]

I forgot that TNT was in existence in the 80's, they must have more games these days. I remember pretty much only being able to watch the Celtics when they played my local team in Boston, then the later rounds of the playoffs, then Finals. The Philly matchups were great to watch. I'm not young anymore either, you're not the only one lol.

[logjammers]

Ya,I believe all TNT games,which featured Atlanta solely,were announced by Skip Caray. Oh,the early days of cable.

Somewhere I have a tape of Boston going on like a 30-2 run and I remember Caray saying in a most deadpan fashion,"you've never seen a hotter team in your life." They did it with such ease and against a good squad of Rivers,Wilkins,Webb,Battle,Wil­lis...oh ya,the finger muncher,Tree Rollins.

[workouthrd]

These days there are so many games, if you like a certain team or player, you can see them just about every week or two if they have a decent team. The last place teams are never one though: Wizards, Bobcats, etc.

I remember that finger biting episode between Rollins and Ainge, lol that still givees me a laugh every time I hear about it.

[workouthrd]

typo- never on.

[logjammers]

funny..yesterday on NBA channel,they showed a game from that very era,where Dominique poured in 54 as they beat the Celtics at the Omni. Just watching the Celtics passing was unbelievable. And sorry to stress this point,but they also showed the highlights of 87 Lakers over Celtics and almost ZERO important or relevant plays involved Lou Alcindor.

He kind of like had the best seat in the house.

[logjammers]

And on the Ainge -Rollins incident..funny how over time,so many have it backwards now,that Ainge was the biter. Fact is,Ainge was the BITEE.

The Tree was the muncher.

Ainge just seemed like a guy who would do that.and it made a better story to tell,especially among Celtic haters.

[workouthrd]

I wouldn't put it past Ainge to do the biting either lol..although, at the same time, I think he was singled out by some opposing players much more than he deserved.

[workouthrd]

Wilkens was a scorer, no doubt. He was tough. As for 87' its really a moot point about Jabbar because of all the Celtic injuries, two grueling 7 games series before that and the easy ride the Lakers had en route to the Finals (no competion to speak of-alot of rest). Even in 87' when he was ancient, Jabbar had at least one or two strong games. He was a factor.

[Soundtrack1000]

jhjjhjh

[workouthrd]

Then there is the fg% of Parrish and Jabbar when they faced off. There is no poin tin even discussing 97' due to the amount and severity of the injuries to the Celtics that year. This doesn't even include their having to go through Detroit. The Lakers were healthy and had it easy.

[workouthrd]

Then there is 85 and 84, even more of a difference.

[workouthrd]

The 86 celtics would beat the 07 or 08 "Celtics" four games to nothing, just as they did to Jordan's Bulls in the 1st round that year. The league has become more and more watered down (more teams) since Bird retired.

[joekiddlouischama]

.. this caliber of basketball is wonderful.

[adheckle]

This game might have been the highlight of Rick Carlisle's career. The difference between this game and the following year was Boston had a bench. This game showed how dangerous Boston was with a bench.

[nikos007333]

this was the deepest team in the history of the nba.(celtics)

[workouthrd]

Yes, and the best team. The Lakers were damn lucky to have been eliminated by the Rockets that year, or they would have gotten annialated just as the Rockets.

[jimmyrocks1122b]

also, remember the rockets won that series 4-1. if the lakers had gotten to the finals they would've been crushed.

[WonderBread006]

they beat the celties twice in de finalsssss

[workouthrd]

Yup, better teams. They should have beaten the Celtics in 84' also. The 86'Celts is another story though, they were untouchable.

[LuigiLaker]

This was James Worthy's first All-Pro selection of his career..

[freddycupples]

Nice editing job....

[hillbucks22]

Walton and bird together were incredible, two of teh best ever

[nikeyhead]

great video man, never seen this game before.

[LuigiLaker]

LMAO at 7:43 Dennis Johnson may have been a 1st team All-Pro defender, but his ass was a sitting duck with a 4 on 1!

[MattMc33]

85-86 Celtics. Four Hall of Famers (should be five when DJ gets in). Best forward ever (Bird). Best frontline ever. 40-1 at home. BEST. TEAM. EVER.

[lionraider]

this years team would beat that team they played no defense.

[judahsong]

The 86' Team didn't need defense (though they were very tough downlow with Mchale) They shot better than anyteam in history. Unbelievable!!!!

[workouthrd]

Agreed with all of that, only that Parrish was overrated. The "Big 3", come one, Parrish does not deserve to be mentioned with Bird and McHale. PS-Switch Parrish and Jabbar and the Lakers lose to Boston in 85 & 87, even with all the other injuries to the Celts. Jabbar against Parrish in the Finals was always men against boys. Someone had to make up for Jabbar's 30 pts. Total mismatch in the middle.

[workouthrd]

Typo-I mean't to say "come on".

[logjammers]

that's absurd.Without Parrish,they win none.

Men against boys with the ultimate loafer,Kareem? Ha!

Revisionist history is a beautiful thing. In 87 McHale,Parrish and Walton ALL were out or hobbled with foot/ankle injuries.

Even a healthy Kareem on Bostons side would've made little difference.

I always thought the Lakers won their titles DESPITE Kareem.

Lol at overmatched and at overrated.

[workouthrd]

lol you talk about "absurd" and you add in "despite" Kareem!?Amazing! Yeah, that 30 pts and 14 REB against the Celts whe they faced each other really hurt the Lakers chances lol..Parrish was overrated, they would have won with another decent center.

[logjammers]

where in the world do you get your figures from?

In 1987(look this up if you'd like)in the finals alone,Kareem averaged 21.7 points and 7.3 boards per game.

Same series,Mr. Parrish ON ONE LEG,when he could actually walk,averaged 16.7 points and 6.5 boards per game.

And you call that domination?

wow?

[workouthrd]

Did Parrish ever have a 30 pt 12-15 Reb game like Kareem did in 87, no. Advantage Lakers, either way. Total mismatch in the middle, even though you want to downplay it. There was at least one game in 87 alone that the Lakers won solely because of Kareem.

[TheBrainMachine78]

LMAO, Kareem was 40 years old. He still outplayed Parish, just like he did in '84 and '85. It wasn't as one-sided as the other whippings though, I'll give Parish that.

[13war25]

@TheBrainMachine78 Nobody said Parrish was as good as Kareem you fucking fool and he retired at age 39. Parrish sucked he only lasted in the NBA until he was 41...LOL

NOW STFU you idiot!!!L

[Phaktor1]

My god...look at these guys hitting the mid-range jumpers. Never in today's NBA. Dunks, three pointers and flops all day.

[rpm773]

Nice square-up and brick by Worthy @ 9:25 on the video / :33 in the game.

[AceroySangre]

Lat me just fucking say that the level of game I have just seen: passing, speed, witty minded plays and well executed fast breaks I see here makes the nowadays NBA look like a playground of school ball!

[zzremington]

You said it best, those guys cared about winning and team-ball. It's all about shoe contracts and me,me,me today. Either one of those teams on this video would be the Spurs today by 40!!

[AceroySangre]

We must understand that also the level of players was far superior. Dude not even Jordan, Pippen, Grant and Paxon could win a title through 87 to 91 XD. By far more stars and even roll players where more b-ball educated and witty minded than the players we see today. 80s players ruled the 90s, 80s best time in NBA history

[hypermonkey24]

I don't know about that AcerorySangre. You have to realize that the Bulls did not get to the finals 3 straight years because the same team kept eliminating them. When Jordan and the Bulls finally evolved into a power house, they swept the 80s Pistons in pure, dominating fashion. Please don't tell me that the Pistons were over the hill either....cuz thats crap.

When Jordan began using Phil Jacksons game plan they were unstoppable....and could have competed in the 80s.

[bionicbigfoot]

No, the Bulls most certainly could not have competed with Larry and Magic in the 80's. Actually, now that I think of it, the Bulls DIDN'T compete!! Celtics-Lakers of the 80's were by faaaaar the two greatest b-ball teams of all-time. 83 Sixers were great, later Pistons were talented but dirty, and MJ's Bulls won junk titles in a junk era. Noone, but noone, could hand with these 2 teams...except for each other.

[hypermonkey24]

6 championships suggest that you ain't "junk" in a "junk era". That is still impressive in any era. Whether achieving them were considered easier it don't take from the fact that that is an accomplishment.

It is so ridiculous how people downplay the BUlls because they didn't peak in the early 80s. You can't fault a team for that. Jordan and the Bulls grew in the 80s. They were shaped by that era of competition. It rubbed off on them. They easily swept an 80s championship team.

[hypermonkey24]

Jordan was considered the best by Bird, Magic, Detroit head coach, and just about everybody in the NBA. He played on a team that went to the Eastern conference finals without him.

NO 80s team had an answer for him. He embarrassed that league according to the Detroit Head Coach in that era. He played with another top 50 NBA basketball player.

Stop the hating. It gets old. I love my SHOWTIME Lakers but this inaccurate, insincere, account of Michael Jordan and Bulls gets old.

[bionicbigfoot]

Obsess much? I love MJ as much as the next guy, but you put his Bulls against the 83 Sixers, all-80's Celtics and Lakers, or late 80's Pistons, and you've got a slaughter on your hands. That's a fact, no matter how empty it makes you feel. Actually I blame MJ for today's junk-NBA; he was so good, and so different, that players now want all flash with no team concept or fundamentals. I grew up in Boston, and this year's Celts-LA Finals (maybe) hardly means a thing to me.Magic & Larry..best.FACT.

[hypermonkey24]

"Obsess much" ....Yes.

"you've got a slaughter on your hands" ...BULL

"Actually I blame MJ for today's junk-NBA" ....possibly true

"Magic & Larry..best.FACT." ....exciting rivalry...YES....best teams ever....not fact but opinion.

[hypermonkey24]

BTW,

In 88 The Lakers barely squeezed a win over the Pistons in the finals.....I mean barely..including a controversial foul at the end of game 7 and Isiah sitting out of the game from an injury. Now don't tell me that those Lakers were over the hill. Because that is crap. In 89 the Pistons easily swept the Lakers (Magic injured, whatever...the Lakers would not have dominated the Pistons had they had him).

In 1991 the Bulls finally peaked and swept the Pistons...WHO WERE NOT OVER THE HILL.

[bionicbigfoot]

The 88 Lakers were in the early stages of decline; that's a fact. In 89, it was obvious their time had passed; another fact. By 91, the creaking Pistons' time was past; another fact. MJ won junk titles in a junk era; historical fact. Best single-season team of all-time: 86 Celtics. Fact. If you're gonna argue this fact, tell me this: who'd guard McHale? Gimme any peak Celts/Lakers squad from the 80's against the Chicago MJs of 90's & it's over in 5. F-A-C-T. Any questions?

[hypermonkey24]

Question? How could the best Lakers team be in 1987....be so much less elite in 1988 to where they almost lossed (No Isaiah?).

NO facts..your full of crap.

"Creaking Pistons"...how were they declining? FACT. Even a "declining Pistons" team would not have been swept by a "junk 90s team".

The FACT is you have a bias opinion and your not a very objective analyst. I, who don't care about the Bulls, and love the Lakers, no the best when I saw it. I am passionate about facts not lies.

[bionicbigfoot]

Dude....stop salivating, okay...? You'd be better served by spending less time compulsively watching other men play b-ball and more time honing your sorry spelling, grammar, and syntax skills...("almost lossed"; "your full of..."; "I...no the best"; etc,etc,etc). We're done. I no longer wish to associate with such an ignorant, uneducated, mo-ron such as you. By the way, EVERYTHING you've said about hoops is wrong. Idjut. Enjoy MJ's junk titles in a junk era. Every fan "no's" this, tool.

[hypermonkey24]

It's O.K I understand. Perhaps I am little over the top. But heck, what is YouTube for but to debate with others.

Spelling insults, pretty typical.....best way to insult somebody when you have nothing else.

We disagree. It happens.

Take care.

[bionicbigfoot]

All right. Let's agree to disagree. I love MJ and you respect Larry and Magic, so we're not really that far off anyway. Sorry about the spelling attacks; that was petty, and I'm no scholar myself. Being passionate's just a part of fandom, right? If the Celts hang on against Detroit, who do you like in the Finals? I'd say LA in 5, maybe 6...except if Larry can dust off the Converse one last time! Either way, it still won't be the same for me as the 80s. Enjoy the rest of the playoffs.

[hypermonkey24]

It's cool man.

I love the Lakers and Kobe makes basketball exciting again. However, Celtics swept them in the regular seasons and have a solid TEAM with the home court advantage. I predict Lakers in 6.

Yeah the 80s is something else totally. Just watched a game in 87 with Lakers and Celtics...it was like watching an all star game....damn those games were exciting.

Enjoy the playoffs as well.

[fartlessass]

hey MJ made "thriller" and he was good!

[hypermonkey24]

Here we go again. Jordan, Pippen, Grant, and Paxon did not peak until the 90s. Not until Phil Jackson got on the scene, Jordan started playing unselfish ball, and his team actually stepped it up.

Take the Pistons, they probably could have beaten the Celtics in 87, and the Lakers in 88, but they had to grow mentally as a team to finally get a championship. Jordan, the closest thing to God, had to grow individually as well. Nobody takes into account that young teams have to mature first.

[SkeffingtonP]

You're also looking at the best teams by far. But the guards in the 80's had no left hands including Magic. Today they'd be eaten alive.

[naturalfinish]

Worthy was hot with his tomahawk in this game (too bad he couldn't shoot threes), but the Laker's flaws in the 86 team (i.e. weak bench) were exposed by the great Celtic team of '86...

[adheckle]

No wonder the Lakers were too chicken to play the Celtics in the finals that year. The Celtics beat them at the Forum without Kevin Mchale. If Mchale had played this game might have been a blowout.

[JABP333200]

Brings back great memories -- thanks for this. Hopefully we see Celtics Lakers in the 08 finals!

[LYONSPOTTER]

At 8:20..."The crowd is going bananas!"

Hard not to with those banana colored uniforms and banana colored floor.

Love to see the Lake circus go down in LA.

[LuigiLaker]

Oh well, we took away the world title from you guys the following year, so it's all good...

[LYONSPOTTER]

Nice point Luigi, that injured 1987 Celtics team had heart, and the loss to LA in 6 games is a sad fact that I remember well. But I also remember beating you in the 2008 Finals, and being 9-2 against the Lakers overall. LA has lost 15 championships. Those years must have been tough for ya... ...While we are remembering things about 1987, I also remember losing Len Bias to premature death, which instantly prevented us from challenging LA for many years to come, not only 1987.

[918211507]

What a shot by Carlisle at 5:42!

[tustari]

1:27 - an absolutely amazing pass my Magic!

[Raford146]

Yep, Magic made those passes look easy.

[jp3813]

Where's Kevin McHale?

[lovesvinylchicks]

He was injured during the Celtics' West Coast swing in February 1986 and thus was replaced by Scott Wedman in the starting lineup for this game.

[pcorf]

This is a Regular Season Game. These teams DID NOT play in the Finals this season. Ralph Sampson knocked the Lakers out of the playoffs later that year.

[lovesvinylchicks]

So what's your point? It's still a classic NBA game and one I'm surprised I've never seen NBA TV or ESPN Classic show.

[whiteboi626]

dj is great wow, sad lakers lost today.

[litjourney]

What a great game. I wish I could've been there, watching Magic and Bird in their prime. Thanks for posting =)