Gralloching a Stag at Ardverikie in the Scottish Highlands

[MartinezFamilyRevue]

Hey, thanks for the interest. Unfortunately, I am just the cameraman, now home in the US and Dougie is still in Scotland. He's now the head stalker, after his father (also Dougie, elder is "Duh-gee," younger is "Doo-gee." I normally hunt white tail, but if I could ever learn to gut this fast I would be making a fortune off how-to dvds. Not sure if it's in the video, but the best part is when Dougie uses a clump of moss to wash his hands.

[Lr1gowF]

@MartinezFamilyRevue Thanks for the quick reply. Dougie certainly looks competent and the way he drags the deer off he makes it look easy. :) Thanks again for posting the video.

No moss where I hunt so I put my plastic water bottle between my knees, crack it partway open and use it to wash up. Water only comes out when you squeeze.

[Lr1gowF]

Interesting video, thank you for the post. Question for Dougie: did you cut the trachea, ring the anus and/or cut the diaphragm? I have never cleaned a whitetail but have a fair amount of experience cleaning axis deer. If I was to merely slit the belly there is no way I could pull out the entrails by hand as you seemed to do. I did notice the stomach seemed to tear (not a likely thing with an axis), perhaps the innards are softer on the whitetails?

Good luck & good hunting to you!

[trootoo11]

dougie lugs langlands!!! what a man!!

[wotansrevenge]

Humans are sick!

[blickluke]

@wotansrevenge why?

why would u be watching this then

[bbhlfc]

nowt wrong with that ,,,,even better if you have had a bull cross up its arse for five mins

[saintbarbara]

Justify your behaviour because you have to. I don't justify my comments. These animals are not overrunning the world. The only creatures causing environmental damage are the overrun of humans. This act here is done purely, simply and completely out of sheer and absolute barbary and of course the small dick syndrome, which is inherent in about 98.9% of males. Castrate human males and no problems will exist with the planet. :)

Anyone arguing of course is a "nutcase".

[eezginger]

Look you silly little tart if he didn't gut/gralloch it then the meat would get tainted and then wasted which is worse kill and waste or kill and feast???

P.s I'm having badger soup with fox testicle croutons all served in a kangaroo skull for dinner, and I'm off to club baby seals to death for no other reason apart from fun.

[eezginger]

P.p.s get yourself laid it may remove that chip on your shoulder and blow them cobwebs away. Because you are such an nasty excuse for a human and such A whining cow that no man would sniff you let alone touch you. Get yourself a battery powered F#ck machine.

P.p.s.s Have a bath I can smell the stench from your sweaty flaps' over here in Blighty.

[danebrewer10]

fox testicle croutons .....that made me chuckle....

[belter1001]

@eezginger : i suggest adding osprey eggs to that recipe , and sprinklingdiced kittens on the top... it gives you that lovely warm feeling inside when you know your pissing saintbabara off.

[danebrewer10]

do you know of any natural predators of wild deer in the UK?we step in and fill that space if they were to be allowed to increase in number unchecked they would cause much damage to the British economy in forestry and farming, stalkers select sick old injured or poor quality animals to cull to improve the health of the herd, yes trophy hunting happens but the meat is not wasted, it's a totally wild meat source that has had a much better life than much of the meat found on the supermarket shelves

[billydakid1984]

stupid bitch

[straightliner2000]

Toddle off and eat your muesli burgers ya fat, hairy, lesbian, man hating, cat murderer :=))

[blickluke]

@saintbarbara wow no wonder all the comments are hateing againts you, ur retarded, ok how about we let the deer do what they want and dont kill em so the can over populate and end up dieing of starvation and ruine forestry and so on.

[harrychown1989]

@blickluke What do you say to the millions of cows and sheep that are slaughtered each year for your McDonald's burgers? This is one deer and I guarantee none of the meat will go to waste. They don't just burn the carcass, they fucking eat it.

[blickluke]

@harrychown1989 I think your comment was directed at the saintbarbara person or some one else because thats the same view point i am on. You need to re message that to ur intended person :)

[blickluke]

@saintbarbara typical case of 'loose tits and floppy vagina' syndrome that most feminists have.

make sure to come back and tell us when this perfectly harmonious Eden of yours with no men comes about. Would be good to see

[stitch311]

This guy, Dougie, wow, he's amazing. I met him a few times during some stays on the Estate there. This guy has a lot of knowledge of wildlife, amazing... nice to see him on here al of a sudden, great vid!

[SomthingNew0]

which estate was it you stayed at?

[stitch311]

Ardverikie Estate in the Highlands, Scotland

[jrwklb]

Cracking Stag!! I'd hate to see the things u'd say were'nt worth a bullet. Oh wait that is about the biggest thats left there after i'd done my culling.

[everjim]

GET IT EATEN

[saintbarbara]

I am not deeply disturbed at all "jim's wife". How appropriate that this cowardly, limp-wristed shadow of a man has to have his "wife" respond. Any woman that condones barbaric behavior against animals - well deserves a "husband" just like jim. (bet he's impotent and bald).

Wish your family ill? I DESIRE, WILL it. Fact is "jim's wife", it's people like you that create misery in this world, and what better way to end it? than to eradicate you now isn't it?

Check on your children.

[evans808274mc9la]

Hello Barbara. First of all, I have to say that I've really enjoyed reading your posts with Jim!

I have to ask you though, are you a vegetarian?

The reason I ask is that being bought up in the countryside, I know how the animal is killed and that it is infinately quicker than the way that animals are killed in an abattoire that provide meat to supermarkets and I must say in a much more respectful manner.

[evans808274mc9la]

The problem is that most people associate deer stalking with the same sort of bellicose people that go fox hunting, when in truth, they are worlds apart.

Hunting is an emotionally charged issue, but when I see people labelling it as the height of barbarism, I think that they are a little off the mark.

Hunting for food in my opinion is fine, as the animal has led a natural life up until the moment of death, which with a clean shot, is a matter of milliseconds.

[evans808274mc9la]

I have NEVER met a deer stalker with a blood lust. I'm sure that they are out there, but the deer stalkers that I have met have been countrymen in the truest sense. They live of and in harmony with the land in a symbiotic relationship.

[evans808274mc9la]

Lastly, I just have to state the medical fact that without eating meat, the human brain would not have evolved to the state that it has as to reach the state of development that it has reached in modern man, the brain needs the proteins that are only found in cooked meat (and the fats that are only found in mothers breast milk). The brain is an organic, cholesterol based computer.

[danebrewer10]

clearly you have no idea about deer management and the benefits to the welfare and the quality of the animals produced by taking out old, sick, injured or poor quality animals, get off your PETA bandwagon and go read some literature

[challon123]

Simple fact is "Babs" , if you do not like what you see, don't watch it !!! People like you have far too much time on their hands getting involved in discussions that do not concern you, or know nothing about!!!  Real people like us save the planet and it's creatures whilst people like you just try your best to destroy it.. I agree with Jim, btw you need help - no-one of sane mind would wish harm on anyone they have never met, let alone anyone full-stop! Nice Video BTW...

[saintbarbara]

It's January, I'm sick and tired of a cowardly old fool like jim justifying murdering defenceless animals.

and his only defence is I got the date wrong by 17 days.

and a so-called educated man calls a woman "sweetheart". probably a wife beater.

keep talking jim. family feeling a little unwell yet? careful crossing roads jim.

[jim22222]

Hi Barbara

This is Jim's wife. Firstly, I would like to echo Jim's remarks, in that you are deeply disturbed for wishing ill will to his family.

It is one thing to disagree with somebody's point of view, it is another to use ad hominem attacks.

Your arguments are based on weak willed sentiment and defy common logic. As such I will not berate for your attacks on our family as I genuinely believe that you are deeply disturbed.

Take care

I support my husband's outdoor pursuits.

[evans808274mc9la]

Jim, can I ask how often you hunt, how many deer you've taken in your lifetime and whether or not you eat the deer that you've shot?

Thanks

[jim22222]

I have been hunting since childhood starting off with rabbits, pigeons and other vermin, after which I progressed to pheasant duck and woodcock. I have only been stalking for the the last ten years. But I pretty much eat everything that I kill, from rabbit to deer, trout to salmon.

[evans808274mc9la]

Hello Jim.

I have really enjoyed reading the spirited discussions between Barbara and yourself.

As everybody knows, the best to put across a point of view is to make personal jibes, isn't it? Thats the way the greatest minds have conversed in the past, isn't it? Didn't Plato say to Aristotle when arguing over matters in the Academy, "shut up fat boy" ?

I thought it was funny until the "Check on your children " threat. Bizarre, deluded woman.

[evans808274mc9la]

Because her views are so disjointed, they cannot manifest in reality so that the only thing that is within her power to do is rant on an internet comments board. Hey Barbara, if "murdering" animals bothers you so much, why don't you do something more worthwhile and protest the local butchers?

[jim22222]

Ad hominem attacks are standard practise for her. Her attacks on my family are psychotic to say the least. But I firmly believe that she is seriously disturbed.

Neverthless I enjoyed myself in Scotland last week even if the snow put paid to the sport. Got a couple nonetheless!

[evans808274mc9la]

Yes, I think you may be right about her being disturbed. When you joked about medication she gave quite an exact quote for dosage....

I thought I would try and create a middle ground for a debate by trying to act as intermediary between you two in your discussion. That was until I saw the threats.

The thing is that killing peoples children is only going to do her cause harm. Poor woman. I pity her in a way.

[saintbarbara]

Strange I thought jim had wandered off because he was "bored" and/or shooting something to put on his family's table.

Since the dawn of time? well now jim, hate to tell you it's now 2008 and just a few years ago it was OK to smoke. and eat red meat - both were great for you.

Now you said you were "going away". Well you will. you and your family will certainly go away - forever.

You are continually confirming your imbecilic attitudes. and don't speed anywhere now will you?

[jim22222]

2008?

I knew you were slow but not that slow. It's 2009 where I am sweetheart! Time to catch up and give yourself a reality check...............if only

[challon123]

nutcase!!!!

[saintbarbara]

no jim. you really can't understand the huge wave of intelligent, caring, and outraged people who don't condone your way of life - your barbaric behavior against animals.

I am as well as the most well person on this fragile planet jim.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, those that have committed acts of atrocity against defenceless animals will reap the consequences.

As sure as there is a God in heaven.

[jim22222]

I dont understand animal rights activists. The idea that animals are my equal, that I should accord them the same rights as my fellow man is anathema to me. Your failure to understand that there is a natural order that has existed since the dawn of time beggars belief. You live in a cloud cuckooland, far removed from reality.

Meat is food and is so for a purpose; it helps keep animal numbers in check. Next time you're at the zoo, go into the lion's enclosure and see how long you last?

[jarvey16]

honestly, you need to accept the ways of lives of other people. you have no right to tell someone they cant eat meet because you dont. its ridiculous. scientific fact, the human brain would not have evolved to its current state had humans not eating meat and subsequently we would not be the dominant species on this planet. i don't believe in god so should i rot in hell??? best regards to you

[saintbarbara]

In one post, jim, I'm old. the next post I'm young.

the truth is the longer you keep this going, the happier I am.

you feed into my hands. and to answer your question?

yes I am a witch indeed. *smirks* one that you will wish you never met.

[jim22222]

Barbara

As I said in an earlier post, you, Cant Understand Normal Thinking.

Either take your medication or leave the hard drugs alone. Or could it be thaat you fell off your broomstick and banged your head?

I will let you have the last word as you have long since bored me. And I hope you get better soon before you injure yourself or somebody else.

[saintbarbara]

as you like it. the days when "man" plays God is almost over. the rapidly growing awareness of armies of individuals who will not accept barbaric practices against any animals will see your dirty practices and "sport" and "livelihood" at an end.

To call someone "unstable" because they talk sense and honesty and the TRUTH, only reflects on your inability to justify your actions.

and like it not, you will have to pay for your actions.

[saintbarbara]

I killed nothing. The vet made the decision.

you on the other hand - oh so educated and I don't believe that for a moment and you are obviously from very poor breeding - unlike the deer you shoot.

Your family live quite well? well not for long. trust me, my curses are extremely powerful and unrelenting.

you have how many deaths on your conscience?

add your family to it now. all of them, slow but sure. you're frightened and you should be. many have gone before you.

[jim22222]

You're a witch as well as a cat killer!

You're a bit old to believe that you are a witch?

You should read your own posts! You really do come across as a deeply disturbed person. Pscychotic and delusional!

[saintbarbara]

"Feast on what I have killed?" Where do you live you caveman.

You play God in killing his creatures and you have no right to expedite their death.

you are a cowardly, rotten, horrible little man with a gun thinking he's something by controlling the lives of poor innocent creatures. the only control you have in your life no doubt. no education and obviously no money. poverty makes me sick.

My vet played God and that was OK with me.

wait until your children die of disease. soon.

[jim22222]

Barbara

No matter which way you look at it, you killed your cat; you are responsible for your cat's death. The fact that you used a vet to kill Charlie, or whatever its name was is immaterial; you killed your cat.

I am quite highly educated, BSc, MSc by degree. It is vulgar to discuss money, but my family live quite well. Thanks for the interest!

Cat killer!

[saintbarbara]

I am so happy you continue on your self-justifying tirade jim.

no doubt your livelihood has a lot to do with slaughter.

Religion is man-made, as is the Bible.

Stop quoting God here jim. you are a barbaric coward slaughtering unnecessarily.

if you believe "man" has risen to the top of the food chain, you're a poor sad person. Man was put as custodian of the planet and it's inhabitants - and thats the reason jim, you and yours will soon burn in hell. soon.

check the ratings jim.

[jim22222]

My tirades? Do the words "Pot and Kettle" mean anything to you?

I hunt and fish and have done so childhood. I really enjoy it and I love nothing more than to feast on what I have killed. You should try it!

Why did you have your cat put to sleep. Put to sleep is just a more palatable euphenism for killing is it not? You killed your cat to end its suffering. I cull deer to prevent them from suffering from the effects of old age, starvation and disease.

You are misguided.

[saintbarbara]

Authorised to slaughter? God said it did He? The likelihood that Jesus was a vegetarian given his preachings about love and His creatures - it is very likely.

Man does not need to eat meat to sustain life. Your slaughter can NOT be justified by anyone.

Keep on going, all adding to my curse on you and your family. death and destruction. you and your ilk are total fools and project the lame and miserable excuses of hunters.

Drop me a note when the first of your family is slaughtered.

[jim22222]

Saint Barbara

Cant Understand Normal Thinking!

[jim22222]

JC was not a vegetarian; 7 of his disciples were fishermen! Havent you heard the story about feeding the 5000 with loaves and fishes?

I wish your family peace and fortitude. I cannot imagine how they struggle to cope with a difficult child such as yourself. Can't be easy!

[saintbarbara]

jim. if you weren't so worried about what you were doing and its karmic consequences: ie my extreme curse, then you would stop responding, now wouldn't you.

No medications here - just a clear conscience.

[jim22222]

Christians respect life in all its forms, but they do not worship it; and they are authorised by religion and common sense to take animal life where human need requires it; and man's first need is food.

So, being considerate to animals does not require us to be sentimental. Cruelty on the other hand is the voluntary infliction of unnecessary pain. Given that animals can be killed quickly and humanely, such as by injection (as in your cat) shooting an animal for food is perfectly acceptable.

[saintbarbara]

oh jim. now we're capitalising "God" here. My mind is not sick at all. It's fresh and caring. "beasts" - oh? what happened to the love of animals now? I relate to God and his love of his creations - God did not condone barbaric slaughter.

I AM now His representative and by this, I'm saying to you "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth - and a slaughter for a slaughter".

sick? if you say so. that's exactly what you/yours will progressively become.

you won't get the last word jim.

[jim22222]

Dream on Barbara!

Keep taking your medication and let the professionals look after you!

[saintbarbara]

*yawns* how incredibly condescending of you.

I'm fine. and most of the thinking population of the world would agree.

you and yours on the other hand? well.

good luck is all I have to say.

[jim22222]

If you feel belittled then you are the one with feelings of insecurity. But as we already know that you relate better to beasts, than your fellow man, God only knows what is going throuh your sick little mind.

[saintbarbara]

yes medication jim.

I know you need it. 20 sleepers should do it. although, a good sharp knife in my hand would equally put you to rest.

and I would be as joyful in the task of gutting you as these fools.

[jim22222]

As much as I disagree with you, I dont wish you any will, but rather, I hope you get better preferably some time soon!

[saintbarbara]

thank you Martinez - avid or not - you seem a little more sound of mind than poor old jim.

jim seems to think all females need medication - I'm sure when his wife henpecks him, he tells her she's "on the rag" and take some medication.

the point is, "jim", stop belittling because all it does is make you sound like an imbecile - although this is apparent in any case.

Fact is: you're a coward. Culling can be done by other methods. and my curse on you/your family will remain forever.

[jim22222]

Bye bye Barbara.

Medication, medication, medication..........!

[MartinezFamilyRevue]

Apologies for mislabeling the video, my American ears weren't able to pick up the actual form of the word "gralloch," and when I uploaded "garroting" is what came to mind. It was a 1-shot kill. I'm an avid white-tail hunter and I must say this was the fastest and cleanest gralloch I've ever seen. To Saintbarbara, yes the deer did fine before human intervention, but that took place over a hundred years ago; natural predators are gone, without management the herd would deteriorate.

[jim22222]

Good post. And if I might add, deer numbers in Scotland have never been higher, same in Devon/Cornwall because of modern conservation methods which involves selective culling, a concept which is completely lost on Psychotic Barbara, she who wishes death upon my family!

[saintbarbara]

English indeed. and more education, knowledge and understanding than you or any of your now cursed relatives hope to achieve in twenty lifetimes.

Fact is hunt/sport is nothing if in fact there is no reasonable defence by an opponent.

you are a coward jim. and think the only way to achieve an end is with a gun. you are a coward jim.

read what people feel, get with now. and understand animal cruelty is barbaric behaviour. deal with the truth.

[jim22222]

Barbara, I am concerned for your mental health. I think you are seriously emtionally disturbed. Please seek help, because I suspect that you may be a danger to yourself and others.

[saintbarbara]

jim has apologised for saying the stag was not hung it was only shot! and name calling about my care and concern about animal cruelty inflicted by him seems to be his defence. In total sound mind, wish I could say the same for you, you coward.

Facts is jim, you are a loser. and I do in fact wish all that on your family and even on your distant relatives and would have no qualms about garroting (yes strangling THEN gutting them).

[jim22222]

What part do you not understand? The animal was not strangled, it was shot. The person who posted this has made a mistake by using the word "Garroted" and confused your dizzy little brain, despite my and other having tried to reason with you!

I am not cruel to animals; I respect them, but I also like to eat them and harvest them. If you value the life of an animal over that of a fellow human being, then you have a deeply disturbed sense of morality and there is no reasoning with you. Medication

[saintbarbara]

and no I am NOT a meat eater.

"more respect and love for animals"?

then practice appropriate culling - and old way culling is just that. barbaric and unnecessary cruelty.

get over yourself jim. you're wrong.

[jim22222]

The animal was shot. It was not garroted, that is, it was not strangled. After it was shot, it was gralloched, that is gutted. The person who posted the video has mistakenly used the word garroted instead of gralloched. I am not surprised that you did not pick that up because your grasp of the English language suggests that it is not your mother tongue?

Again, your ignorance of the countryside and those that you claim to defend is remarkable. It is pathetic!

[saintbarbara]

jim: May your children, and if still existing, mother and father and siblings, be hunted and garrotted - now there's a definite no loss. After all? how do I or you for that matter, know that we are the "superior race"?

Horrible little man - go away.

[jim22222]

Barbara.

I feel only sympathy for you. As much as I disgree with your views, under no circumstances do I wish you, nor any members of your family, parents, siblings or children any ill will, let alone a brutal death. You are clearly a very disturbed person and I suggest you seek professional help.

[saintbarbara]

jim. oh your constant, intense defence and hatred of anyone who challenges this awful practice. It is hardly my cat tribute, just a comment - but then again you get so much wrong in your life no doubt. you don't know me at all. I visit Scotland regularly. I'm sure the deer did very well before human intervention and hopefully will do equally as well, after man has gone.

[jim22222]

Another rambling rant totally devois of meaning, nevermind grammar or syntax.

You are a very disturbed person, Barbara. Did you forget to take your medication today?

[jim22222]

Back on topic. Good video, would have been nice to see the shot. I'm off to Scotland next week to cull a few hinds; cant wait!

[saintbarbara]

Well qualified and "interesting" people?

Their "livelihood"?

Oh please.

The ecosystem? all word to justify barbaric behaviour.

Like it or not, ruthlessly slaughtering animals is not something to be proud of nor to justify.

Get real jobs.

[jim22222]

These people have more respect and love for animals than you ever will have. Cuddling a rabbit, a puppy, attributing them human qualities and expressing extreme sympathy upon their death in not loving animals, nor is it in the interest of animal welfare.

You are the one guilty of animal cruelty because you are not emotionally mature enough to accept the animal's place in this world. Your good intentions are your undoing and as everybody knows, good intentions pave the road to hell.

[jim22222]

I just watched your tribute to your cat; you need therapy and lots of it.

[saintbarbara]

So I'm "emotionally retarded" for not accepting that killing animals "to increase their population" and not just sport and abject cruelty. FACT is "jim", animals can be "controlled" in other ways than slaughter. Get it? What a shame your mother didn't introduce the odd contraception pill/device instead of bringing into the world a self-justifying, miserable bastard that has nothing better to do than slay animals.

No natural predators? What a load. I can watch what I like & call YOU out!

[jim22222]

Saint Barbara

Please do grow up. Man has killed animals, animals have killed each other since time began. It is the law of the land, the food chain, the cycle of life. If you do not have the emotional maturity to accept that, then you are a very sad person. Do you live in a state of constant grief for all the animals that are slaugtered on a daily basis? I hope not.

Deer have no natural predators in mainland Europe. Would you prefer to see an aging stag or hind starve to death. Grow up

[jim22222]

So Barbara, Ms know it all. Which animal predates on Deer in Scotland, or Ireland for that matter. I await your answer with great eagerness!

[saintbarbara]

Stop justifying sheer and absolute barbaric behaviour. Scots are better than this - stronger and more proud than "garrotting" these beautiful animals. This is not sport, it's a miserable excuse for kill. Kill the American tourists, that's fair game. Not the beauty of Scotland.

[jim22222]

I am sick and tired of reading comments from people such as yourselves who are opposed to hunting. If you dont like it, dont watch it. Simple as!

The is deer management, and for your interest it is because of management such as this that deer numbers have never been higher in the UK. Why because Deer have no natural predator. As such there numbers have to controlled.

You are emotionally retarded if you cannot accept this. Stop crying over dead animals and grow up

[raybede]

I think the title should be gralloch NOT Garrot!!!

[harryheath1]

i have to say that it is people like Barbara, who have NOOO idea about countryside management that cause so much distress and hardship to the people who are the fundamental care takers of the land around us. Without such folk the land would suffer from over grazing, deforestation, and poor establishment of wildlife. Sadly you are the uneducated people Barbara, and unfortuately you are the people who are going to destroy the land we all love, but moreover be contradictory to your main goal!!!

[charvercharver]

barbara its people like you that have made this world what it is today..... FUCKED UP.

bunny huggers should think b4 saying things like you did,im a stalker and a very good one at that,these so called cuddley deer cause more damage to the ecosystem than man.

what you should do is get a farm and then we can herd all these animals on your land and see how long you will servive b4 you need our help

[notenglishandproud]

get a grip barbara. this is a livelihood to many hardworking, well qualified and interesting men and women across not only Scotland but the world. this is an example of ESSENTIAL countryside management in Scotland which without it the land would change dramatically for the worse affecting many other species. if youre not a vegetarian then you should reconsider your statement and also look into the value of gamekeeping in the Scottish economy as a whole and on a local basis.

[BigErnie00]

The DSS said that Red deer numbers are now approaching 400 000 in Scotland alone, which is having an negative effect upon forest regeneration. No predators = population explosion, if not culled = disease and starvation as well as dramatically changing the countryside as we know it. I love deer, especially with a nice red wine sauce. Mind you here in Germany wild boar and fallow taste better.

[saintbarbara]

What a stupid, barbaric and unnecessary practice. you should be totally disgusted with yourself you have NO attachment to "humanity". We are the custodians of these magnificent creatures and you are boring, uneducated and barbaric scum. I wish I could "gralloch" all of you.

[seahorseoysterfish]

This is called "gralloching" - when the stalker removes the gralloch, or guts. "Garotting" refers to strangling with wire.