those old guys in what 1793 I think had the right mindset if anyone sets foot in your house with the intetnion to do you harm send him to hell with your bullet in his brains ahhh why cant more countries get it
im going to state something. its a bit out of the ordinary but still something to think about.
Most communist/socialist governments are not afraid of our military, because of the rules of engagement and what not and they can be pulled out.
what they are afraid of is the United State's MILITIA, yes GUN owning civilians who will do anything to defend their country and don't give a shit about rules of egagment. So think about it, get rid of guns and we may loose our country due to invasion
A beautiful girl who is the daughter of a pastor was shot in the head becuase a guy was showing off his gun to his friends, In CHURCH? Thanks alot Chuck, keep pushing guns on people and more and more innocent people will die as a result.
@cromagnan lol funny u dont realize its the people that pull the trigger on the gun causing the gun to fire and kill people the gun laying there alone cannot be fired typical liberal douche bag u are lmao
@cromagnan no but i think a asshole that carries a gun into a church then wants to show it off without knowing anything about the gun is retarded but to say all guns should be banned because of that is like banning spoons cause people get fat eating moron
@Southernjuggalo63 Try to wrap your little brain around this idea. Guns are being sold to people at gun shows in the south. The sellers don't agree with federal regulations, so they go around the process and sell guns to felons. The felons use the guns to kill people. Until you have a solution to this problem, there is no point in listening to anything you have to say.
@cromagnan and there are laws against such things so therefore its the failure of the federal government to do its regulating of such things lol i see your very anti-guns funny u dont seem to support the CONSTITUTION that forever allows the rights of gun ownership lol either your a liberal american or from a european country that is anti guns
@Southernjuggalo63 You have been living in the South too long. You are incorrect on all accounts. The US Gov has laws in place that are dictated by the NRA who has one mission, To Make Money. My comments have to do with keeping guns out of the hands of mentally ill people. There is no good program in place for that issue. The rest of your comments are simply rediculous.
@cromagnan hahaha the federal government regulates guns and makes money of the sale of guns u must not know anything about how guns are regulated so its the failure of the federal government to enforce punishments on men that sell to ill people not normal gun owners fault like myself p.s. nra gets donations i know i get their donation mail all the time since im a nra member
@rocket10racer I disagree. There is a line that should not be crossed. A mentally ill suicidal person should not own a gun. As long as the individual can show they have no history of mental illness and they have no history of violent behavior against a spouse or co-worker, then fine. I see no reason why it needs to go any further than that.
@rocket10racer actually the constitution was set up as a restraint for government from stepping over its boundaries no i have a founding father view as when it was ratified that it is not a living document but try to take away the guns from the citizens and see how many northerners and southerners unite to fight the federal government
@cromagnan Ironic, how your username belies your intellect.
Look at his comment, and apply some of the principles from 8th grade english. The part he thought was "funny" had nothing to do with the tragedy of a girl being shot. He was amused at your lack of realization regarding the source of the tragedy. Clearly, you still don't get it.
@rmcdaniel423 Just like him you are a useless asswipe who does not care that children are being shot by GUNS. I am a parent, If anyone were to shoot my kids, they would need to worry less about the courts and worry more about what I would do to them. Now shut up unless you have something constructive to say. Think solution. C'mon, I know it tough with your small Republican brain, but you can do it!
@cromagnan I am not an "asswipe". You are incorrect, and have no basis for asserting that I don't care about children being shot. I am not republican. You offend me by making one unfounded false assertion after another.
I quote you: "If anyone were to shoot . . " Notice, you did not say "If a gun were to shoot . . ." Even YOU know that people are shot by people, not guns. By all means, treat the people who do harm with extreme prejudice. Just focus your anger properly.
@cromagnan LOL, you actually think most crimes are committed with responsibly obtained, legally purchased guns? If you take guns away, it leaves criminals with weapons. So you don't think a person has the right to defend him/ herself and the people they love? Liberals don't seem to think things through.
@GoreSmasher Liberals don't think like normal people do. Normal people usually have some knowledge of what the conversation or issue is about before they form a opinion.
@cromagnan o ya? what u gonna do to the criminal that killed ur child while hes holding a gun? i mean u clearly dont own one, u gonna dial 911 and ask the armed murderer to wait in ur living room till police arrive? and then just take it on good faith hes not gonna turn the gun on u or other family members? ur to scared to own a gun thats fine, u think i shouldnt have 1 too? ur perfectly welcome to come to my house and attempt to take them, fucking prick.
An 8-year-old girl is in critical condition Wednesday after she was shot in the abdomen at her elementary school near Seattle. Thanks alot Chuck, you are partially responsable.
I love how people feel like they can use a single country as an example of low rates of crimes and high rates of gun ownership and then just completely ignore the majority of the developed world.
Like I've said before, I'm not supporting a ban. I'm supporting stricter controls on sales to make it slightly harder for your average petty criminal to obtain a firearm than it is to buy a lollipop at a carnival.
Switzerland not the U.S. has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world. By law you are required to keep you gun after being released from compulsory military service-- the only caveat being it is altered to function in semi auto mode. Ammo is subsidized by the government and shooting clubs are a popular family affair. YET, they have one of the lowest gun crime rates in the world. This would suggest that a culture of crime and violence is America's problem--not guns.
@rubymickey That's a false statement. Switzerland does not have a higher rate of gun ownership than the United States. Take 5 seconds to look it up. Go ahead - I'll wait.
There. Now that we know the beginning of your statement is false, we can move on to the rest. Switzerland is both wealthier than the United States and culturally completely different. Gun ownership is part of their national defense; you grow up with them.
Let's not ignore the REST of Europe because of one nation
@Valyn66 guns per 100 people is the U.S. but armed citizenry I'll go with Switzerland. As a modest gun owner with 4 pieces, every other person I know has got between 8 and 30 pieces. Where the U.S. really leads the pack is in ILLEGAL GUNS.
@rubymickey There is absolutely no argument or ambiguity anywhere - the United States is the most armed nation on the planet. Rates of gun ownership are, in terms of both total numbers of firearms and percentage of households owning a gun, higher in the United States than anywhere else.
Illegal guns. That's exactly the problem and exactly what I'm talking about. It's too easy to buy and then resell a gun. Felons, the mentally-disturbed, drug addicts - they all have a cakewalk.
@Valyn66 If you could totally make all guns magically disappear resulting in equality between criminals and law abiding citizens, I would surrender my guns and support banning all firearms. You have to make the following decision: Are guns the problem or strict regulation of law abiding citizens the problem. BTW: You are assuming I'm a Yank...I'm a Canadian and with the 4th highest gun ownership in the world--we don't have your problem due to draconian regulating/licensing.
@rubymickey I'm not assuming you're a "yank." It's a little hilarious to hear you try to claim that Canada has the 4th highest rate of gun ownership in the world, though. You need to check your statistics a bit, mate.
You aren't thinking about this properly. I understand that criminals won't obey the law. I'm not trying to regulate them, I'm trying to regulate the legal situation which facilitates them breaking the law.
@rubymickey I think I've made it clear before, but it's worth stating again: regulation of gun sales is the problem. Not guns themselves.
But I certainly don't mean that in the sense that regulations preventing legal owners from buying guns are what cause crime or increase rates of lethal crimes. That's an absurd contention.
Simply put, it's too easy to buy a gun in the United States. Guns don't deter crime and they don't encourage it. Crime rates stay the same, more people die.
@Valyn66 Guns don't deter crime? Can you explain then why according to FBI crime statistics that the incidences of violent crime; murder, rape, car jacking etc. go down significantly in states that have adopted right to carry laws?
To say that regulations that Prevent legal owners from buying guns Don't cause an increase in crime IS Absurd.
Criminals are predators, they are far less likely to attack if they believe a person is armed and can defend themself. It's called Deterrence.
that is pure horseshit.In places where it is known people have guns,the crime rate is much lower. Would you rather face a poodle or a gun? Right.
The crime rate in the U.K. has multiplied since thugs know there are no guns.
Take Americans guns and we will have every mega maniac country trying to take us over.
They will just wait until leftliberalretards do it with the legal system. Peta,green tree huggers and all the rest of the bleeding hearts.pioneers would have left you to die !!!
@Valyn66 You're mythafying. Most criminals in the U.S. don't buy their guns at gun shows. They're bought on the black market, the guns are usually stolen in a gun shop robbery or from a legal gun owner in a home burglary and sold on the street.
At least 90% of gun related crimes in the U.S. are committed with a hand gun, a percentage with shot guns, and very few with military weapons or hunting rifles. Hand guns are easier for them to conceal, try hiding an AK-47 in your pocket.
@Dem0D1ck NOW who's "mythafying" That's utter nonsense. The majority of "black market" guns are BOUGHT legally and then sold illegally. That's the whole point. There's no control.
@Valyn66 Mythafying, spreading myths. OK, most illegal guns, as I've said are not obtained legally in the first place. They're stolen, either from legal gun owners or gun dealers. Forget a come back, I live in the States, you don't. You believe leftist propaganda, I don't. I don't even believe the propaganda your media in Australia passes of as news or fact.
BTW, even our own leftist politicians here don't even push that BS anymore because it can't be substantiated.
@Dem0D1ck I grew up in the States, I'm an American citizen, and I've been treating gunshot wounds on three different continents for about as long as you've been alive, you little clown.
I don't "believe" propaganda of any type. If you're concerned about propaganda, you should stop suckling at the teat of the NRA. You're full of shit when you say the majority of guns used in crimes are stolen. What's easier? Going house to house robbing hoping to find a gun or strolling into Walmart?
@Valyn66 You obviously are a leftist libtard, otherwise the use of insults wouldn't be necessary. So, as a follow up, your an ignorant buffoon who really can't support their position with facts.
Keep listening to propaganda, it's really all you have. Myself, I'll stick to facts.
@Dem0D1ck Youtube is bugged at the moment and I can only post 190 characters on this video. When it's fixed, I'll respond in more depth. But there's a lot wrong with what you just said.
@rubymickey I don't know, I haven't checked the stats but what about Israel? They've been on a virtual war footing for over 60 years now, surrounded by Indians, mandatory military service for men and women over the age of 18, under the constant threat of terrorist attack, I would think they would have the highest rate of gun ownership in the world.
@Dem0D1ck P.S. even ISRAEL has stricter gun control than the United States. You, like most overgrown NRA parrots, don't bother to actually read about the shit you try to sell. You don't even bother.
If guns deter crimes, why does the United States have a comparable or higher crime rate than the rest of the developed world when the United States is, unarguably, the most armed nation on the planet? Weird, right? All those guns and crime rates stay the same with lethal crimes 5x higher.
@Valyn66 You can't compare the US to Israel like that. You have to compare the US before gun control to the US after gun control. A lot of times you'll see that crime rates increase after imposing gun bans (take Chicago for instance). Once the gun ban was lifted crime rates plummeted.
@epicjas0n You CAN'T compare a U.S. before and after gun control because there has never been a national gun control policy.
This is best illustrated by the ban in Washington D.C. - lethal crime rates dipped initially and then returned to previous rates. It was discovered that criminals were simply obtaining guns from neighboring states. And that will ALWAYS be the case unless there's a national policy. There has never been one, so we have to compare places where there has.
Their is always people who think that taking guns away will solve the problem...When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns...what is it that you dont understand?? responsible people are the victims. If you are not a responsible person then you should maybe change youre ways.!! Tell it like it is Chuck Norris.
i support freedom guns help keep you free from gov. control. slaves we r when disarmed thats what the left want to tell u what u can & cannot do r have./ R what they r is thives & robbers just like o b. if we must fight give us freedom r death.
Having a firearm to help you defend your home is wise,since if a burglar is bold enough to break into a home where they know someone is there, they are probably willing to hurt/kill you or your family.. Its not enough to just own a gun, one needs to know how/when to use it.
Of course if your home is broken into, contact the law if you can, but do not expect them to always get there in time to save you. Having a good Dog is great since some crooks are more afraid of a dog than a gun.
@GoodJobGuy ok. be an asshole and tell me or let me carry on with my life without knowing somebody acctually give a shit about what i said. just pointing out there were 357 likes of this video and i see others had liked it. but im sure there are people who agree with me and think it is quite ironic
@GoodJobGuy ok. be an asshole and tell me or let me carry on with my life without knowing somebody acctually give a shit about what i said. just pointing out there were 357 likes of this video and i see others had liked it. but im sure there are people who agree with me and think it is quite ironic
i wish britian would make laws more unrestircted i have a passion for firearms and if gun control works tell me ONE JUST ONE place that has lower crime rates becuase of gun contro land
i am very sad that i can not enjoy my hobby becuase the british people have been told lies and made up crap from the media why why why do people that have never shot a gun is always anti-gun shoot a gun before you say anything about gun control
@MrGta12367 I can tell you about every developed nation on the planet with gun control which, while not enjoying "lower" rates of crimes, instead enjoy 1/5 or less the rate of lethal crimes than the United States. Oddly enough, if you make obtaining firearms about as easy as buying a lollipop at a carnival, your rates of lethal crime skyrocket. General crime rates stay the same. But everyone, criminal and otherwise, is armed, so the rate of lethal crime is orders of magnitude higher.
@Valyn66 yes i know a lot of countries with lower crime rates then amercia but what i am saying is can you tell me one country that the crime deacresed becuase of a gun ban or a new gun law
@Valyn66 and a gun ban would not take the guns of the criminals they would still use them they do not care what a peice of paper says its ileagal to murder someone but they do it any way
@MrGta12367 It's not about making it "more illegal" for criminals to be armed. It's about making it harder for them to get armed in the first place. And it IS possible to make it harder for criminals to get armed while still preserving the ability for law-abiding gun owners to buy guns.
It just takes a little common sense on the part of gun owners and willingness to jump through some hoops and inconvenience to keep them armed and the bad guys unarmed.
@Valyn66 and the fact is no leting people have guns mean more crime LOL so so stupid there are plenty of states in amercia which is full of guns and has very low crime rates california has the strictest gun control in amercia and it has one of the highest crime rates in the USA so no you are very very wrong
@MrGta12367 You can't compare the gun laws and crime rates between States. This fact has been illustrated with the Washington D.C. gun ban. While purchasing guns was illegal in D.C.criminals were able to obtain them anyway by simple driving across the state border and buying. This is true all over the country. When one State / city / municipality passes laws, criminals just bypass them using the "gun freedom" states like gigantic armories.
@MrGta12367 The rate of lethal crimes in the UK is 5 times lower than that of the United States and their rate of non-lethal crimes is almost identical to that of the United States. Which is perfectly illustrative of my point:
When you make obtaining firearms so easy to avoid the slightest inconvenience on "law-abiding owners" you also make it absurdly easy for petty criminals to get armed. The consequence of this is everyone is armed. Same crimes, more guns, more deaths.
@MrGta12367 Because in places like Australia, they can't buy a gun for $50. They can't buy a gun for $500. They have to either smuggle it in from overseas in a kit, build it themselves, or rob a military base.
But anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time on you. There's a reason you're getting your ass kicked, here, and it's because you're parroting what other people have said without doing the actual research yourself.
"You're full of shit" is the best you can come up with?
@MrGta12367 What a silly statement. You're doing a very good job illustrating the general level of education enjoyed by your typical "NRA parrot" type. I'm an adult male with a CCW permit and a whole collection of guns I inherited from my father. I grew up around guns.
I am, however, an educated person. And I've been all around the world. What you're asserting about guns and crime rates just aren't true. Guns don't deter crime; they don't encourage it. Just make it deadlier.
@Valyn66 i have another issue with guns dont deter crime so lets say i was a criminal and i knew that the house on the right was armed and the house on the left was not armed i would propaly pick the one that is not armed a world full of guns would be a world with very little crime
@MrGta12367 Then why are crime rates the same in the single most armed country in the world? There are 90 guns for every 100 citizens, here. If your contention were correct, crime rates should be incredibly low...right?
The simple fact of the matter is that crime is a function of social dynamics. Things like poverty, culture, etc. And crime is inevitable. In a world where the criminals are just as armed as the homeowner, what do you get? Somebody gets shot.
@Valyn66 well like i said washington dc very low firearm ownership compared to other states lets look at ohio or virgina high gun ownership low crime rates
@MrGta12367 What part of this are you not getting? You can't compare states because bypassing a ban in one state is as easy as a 40 minute drive to the next state over.
Let's look at COUNTRIES that completely ban firearms, shall we? Like Japan. And Australia. And most of Europe.
Same or lower crime rates, with lethal crime rates 1/5th, on average, that of the U.S.
You're walking in intellectual circles and I'm getting really bored of it.
@MrGta12367 Switzerland is unique in that. Remember those social issues I talked about? Things like culture, ethnic diversity, and education? Switzerland is a rich, safe country. They're armed heavily because that's their traditional form of defense. The United States has much, MUCH more guns than Switzerland and our rates of crime are twelve times higher than Switzerland.
@Valyn66 well all you can say is amercia has a higher crime rate then this country well for fuck sake THERE ARE PLENTY OF COUNTRIES WITH HIGH GUN OWNERSHIP and low crime
@MrGta12367 What are you talking about "high gun ownership" rates? They have less than 1/3 the number of guns as the United States.
Bwhaha. This has gotten comical.
Okay, kiddo, I'm not going to waste any more of my day arguing with someone only barely even a teenager.
Stay in school. Try actually reading about things before you try to debate. I did 4 years of university, followed by 4 years of medical school, followed by another 3 years of residency.
@Valyn66 and aswell if chuck norris says gun control is bull shot you better listen end of arguement if you do not belive in what chuck norris says you need some help
@MrGta12367 That's the funniest thing you've said yet.
Don't you have some aliens to go kill in Halo or whatever it is you kids shoot at in video games these days?
P.S. The world isn't black and white. I can support gun ownership while also supporting strict procedural controls on the sale of firearms. The good guys can jump through a few hoops to buy a gun. That keeps them armed and all the petty criminal losers forced to smuggle or steal their guns. Which isn't easy.
@Valyn66 what did i just say if chuck norris the man himself letting you sissies know about gun control says gun control is bull shit you better listen
@Valyn66 what the hell did i just say in my other comments i said i want sensible gun laws like finland in one of my toher comments i agreed that britain and the us need sensible gun laws that do not prevent sport shooters and hunters from getting guns put helps prevent criminals from getting guns
Fuck that"Good guys jumping through hoops" bullshit. If you aren't 100% for guns,your part of the problem.I don't care if you are a life member of the NRA.If you give an inch,they will take your guns.
@Valyn66 the only reason those countrys have high crime rates is becuase they are very very poor amercia no they are nor poor but the rest of the countrys you said do have high gun onwership and high crime but most of those country are very poor and have no toher option but to defend themselfes with a gun
@Valyn66 when will i get it in youtr thick skull gun control does work and dont say look at amercia there are plenty of countries with little gun control and low crime rates and do not say its becuase they have got a diffrent culture crime is nothing to do with culture
@MrGta12367 You're just squawking NRA talking points at me like a giant human parrot. The simple fact of the matter is that the United States is unique in the developed world. We are the single most armed country on the planet, yet our rate of crime is similar to or higher than any other developed nation. Our rates of murder, suicide, and other lethal crimes are about five times higher.
If guns deter crime, why aren't our crime rates lower? Most guns in the world...same crime rates
@Valyn66 and i have a propelem with your why amercias crime rates are so high compared to other countries well there are PLENTY parts of amercia that has low crime rates and high gun ownership lets look at washington dc it has a 86.1 crime rate and dc has one of the strictest gun laws in amercia virgina has a crime rate of 1.6 dont belive me look it up
@MrGta12367 I already tried to explain to you why you can't compare individual pieces of the United States. For every area with high rates of gun ownership and low rates of crimes, there is another area with high rates of crimes and high rates of gun ownership. And for every one of those, there's an area with low rates of gun ownership and low rates of crimes.
If a whole state banned guns completely tomorrow, criminals would just drive across the border and buy guns. This is simple
Get it yet? Criminals will get guns "no matter what" in the United States, because getting a gun is as easy as strolling into a gun show with some cash. Or buying one from a buddy who doesn't have a felony record.
Criminals are NOT getting guns in places like Australia because they just aren't available. Nobody has guns, therefore the only way to get them is through ridiculously expensive means.
@Valyn66 hahaha lol i live in england we banned handguns here when we banned handguns we had a 40percent crime increase and criminals still have handguns in the uk there are around 4milion ilegal guns in the uk
@MrGta12367 Oh so that must mean the rest of the developed world is wrong? Your arguments are absurd, kid. You throw out one example of a place and then go, "See! See! I told you so! It's all about the gun laws!"
As you get older, you'll start to realize that crime is a function of much more complicated issues than firearms. And the UK has problems that facilitate its situation. How about tackling little things like immigration and self-defense laws before giving everyone a handgun?
@Valyn66 and asswell yes i do belive that amercia should have sensible gun laws but not as strict as us british get i would like britian to have laws like finland or czech and aswell i do not belive you are a gun owner could you tell me what guns you have becuase thats not like a gun owner to say something like that
@MrGta12367 I have already said the guns I have. I concealed carry a Glock 36 because I like how thin it is; I find it more comfortable. I also own a range of antique and modern rifles, everything from a Remington 12-gauge to a pair of Model 19 .357 Magnums.
I don't give two shits whether you believe I'm a gun owner or not. You need to actually listen to what I'm saying. I don't support a ban. I also don't support the U.S. policy of making guns as easy to obtain as lollipops.
@Valyn66 Obtaining firearms ILLEGALLY is about as easy as you put it, and even if you got your little nazi dream of disarming everybody so we can live in your liberal big government paradise, criminals WOULD STILL get ahold of guns.. because CRIMINALS DO NOT GET THEIR GUNS LEGALLY YOU MORON! God you anti gun, big gov loving freaks are really lacking common fucking sense aren't you. Also provide proof where these gun controlled nations enjoy "lower" crime rates, because you're wrong.
@LunarPoetry473 Let's not put words in my mouth. I didn't advocate disarming anybody and, though it's really none of your business, I both grew up shooting guns and carry a Glock 36 everywhere it is legal to do so while I'm in the United States. Why, you may ask? Because I know that U.S. law makes it absurdly easy for every drugged up loser who wants to rob a pharmacy to obtain a firearm. I feel forced to carry.
While in Australia, I do not carry. And I feel very safe.
@Valyn66 Riiiiight, because Australia is different right? Crime is just as bad IF NOT worse since that cunt decided to take away people's guns and melt em down. No shit it's absurdly easy to obtain a firearm, that has nothing to do with LEGALLY purchasing a gun, hence why government gun control wouldn't do anything to criminal intentions. Also you still have yet to provide proof of your little "My favorite democratic socialist gun controllers enjoy lower crime" statement.
@LunarPoetry473 I have provided "proof" of that statement over and over again in probably 8 different posts in this cesspool of a thread alone. What exactly more do you want?
I'm so tired of this crap. You guys just want to believe the way you do, so you stubbornly stick your fingers in your ears and start howling "Nuh uh! Nuh uh!" when somebody comes along and points out that the rate of lethal crimes in the U.S. is 4-5 times higher than the rest of the developed world.
@LunarPoetry473 It's only absurdly illegal to obtain firearms in the United States. Why? Because there are so few safeguards on the sale of firearms that criminals don't even need to break a sweat to get them. Have a buddy pick one up at Walmart or stroll into a gun show with cash. In Australia, they have to either build them in their basement or steal them from a military base.
Now which do you think is easier, asshole? Look at the lethal crimes rate in Australia.
It takes me less time to take the safety off of my 357 magnum, aim and fire. Than it does to pick up the phone, call 911, and explain to some random stranger that someone is robbing me or trying to kill me.
You have no right to call yourself a Patriot after endorsing Gingrich..he will disarm everyone because he's a Chamilion..An amoral freak !!!..Ron Paul the true Patriot and real Christian taotally honest..Once they go hollwood they turn..Ted Nugent has it right!!!
i am very very depressed and upset that i have no almost no chance of owning a firearm in britiain i think its about 1 in 10 who apply for a licence will get one and i will not be able to shoot hand guns or -fully or semi auto rifles and it makes me feel very sad and i can not move to amercia becuase its almost impossible to get a green card you have to be some rich person or a doctor to get one people do not know what its like being a person who loves guns and living in britian
he sided with gingrich, so either he has lost his mind, or hell froze over. he couldnt have made a worse choice based on a candidates views on the second amendment.
grinch is just another liar that wil;l say anything to get elected, throw the people a few bones to ensure a second term, then
A:he doesnt think he will win a second term so he waits til the of 1st, then starts pushin agenda, or
B: wins, then goes apeshit on the Constitution for 4 years
@edslides1 Sorry, buddy, but NONE of the current GOP potential candidates have anything to offer. Really, objectively and with an open mind, listen to the State of the Union address and the GOP response to it. If you can't see what the practical GOP is about after Mitch Daniels' enumeration of tired, refuted policies and blind hysteria, there's just no hope for American Democracy. Do I think Obama is great? No. But for the love of God, the guy hasn't had a chance to do ANYTHING.
@edslides1 Ed, those are straw man arguments completely unfounded in reality. I'm not going to try and engage in some debate about the relative merits of presidential candidates. I'm very much done with this thread and all the people in it.
All I ask is that you actually take the time to research what you just said. I could go line by line and DROWN you in evidence against every hysterical little claim you just made. I really could.
@edslides1 All politicians are "liars" if you really want to define it that way. In truth, he does nothing more than present the most favorable facts in support of his arguments, exactly the same as every GOP candidate currently in the field.
I'm asking you to research the actual polices you've criticized. Research "trickle down" economics. Research nationalized health care. I can tell you as someone who has practiced medicine all around the world that the U.S. system is a disgrace.
@tplur4426 I ain't your bro, cunt patrol. Your head clearly fits up your ass, now try and pull it out. You'd be able to see what I said wasn't meant as self righteous, just an observation, which youtube is full of if you weren't too busy trying to critique others. Take your half assed logic elsewhere.
Tired old debate becomes troll attempt becomes at 4 day old (at least) argument on the same Chuck Norris informational video. Just proves how much time some people have i guess.
Hey have a look at my song "The Guns of Freedom" on my youtube page. Hope I'm not too presumtuous by posting this, but it seemed fitting and I really think you'll dig it.
So all you Chuck Norris ball sweaters should all be conservatives by now. He's one. So if he kicks ass so much, put your money where your mouth is and vote like Chuck.
I am no atheist by strict definition, but more and more I am thinking that "God" is an exploitative, highly criminal, alien race having "fun" with humanity before THE SECOND COMING-uh oh..
Anyone for lunch? Anyone NOT wanna be on the menu?
12-31-12: EMPEROR OBAMA SIGNS NATIONAL DEFENSE LAW TO: ARREST, DETAIN ~INDEFINITELY~ WITHOUT, PROBABLE CAUSE AND WITHOUT TRIAL US FREE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS IMPLEMENTS MARTIAN LAW AND MILITARY DRAFT! omg! PLEASE CONSIDER RON PAUL!!!
I go to every gun show that comes to town. I have seen people ask dealers if they have to do the paperwork on private stock and I've seen the dealers all of the sudden decide their private stock is not for sale anymore. Most dealers I know will not sell their private stock to someone whom they don't know, or they will require you to have a CCW permit before they will. Yes, there are a few who will sell to anyone.
Gun show loophole blah blah blah. If I want a gun, I don't have to go to a gunshow and buy from a dealer's private stock. There are the want ads, word of mouth, people sell guns privately outside of gun shows all the time. If I'm a felon, I can steal one, or do as one did in NYC. He just walked up behind a cop and cold cocked him and took his gun. Thankfully, he was caught. Gun laws only affect the law abiding.
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Handguns in Canada for self defense?????? watch this video if your a Canadian .
notregme 2 days ago
I was never a big fan of chuck but he's ok with me ;)
Patmclean232 3 days ago
those old guys in what 1793 I think had the right mindset if anyone sets foot in your house with the intetnion to do you harm send him to hell with your bullet in his brains ahhh why cant more countries get it
haris000000 4 days ago
im going to state something. its a bit out of the ordinary but still something to think about.
Most communist/socialist governments are not afraid of our military, because of the rules of engagement and what not and they can be pulled out.
what they are afraid of is the United State's MILITIA, yes GUN owning civilians who will do anything to defend their country and don't give a shit about rules of egagment. So think about it, get rid of guns and we may loose our country due to invasion
JZ67SS 5 days ago
I love that "We don't dial 911" sign on the house.
EasternSnap 1 week ago 2
A beautiful girl who is the daughter of a pastor was shot in the head becuase a guy was showing off his gun to his friends, In CHURCH? Thanks alot Chuck, keep pushing guns on people and more and more innocent people will die as a result.
cromagnan 1 week ago
@cromagnan lol funny u dont realize its the people that pull the trigger on the gun causing the gun to fire and kill people the gun laying there alone cannot be fired typical liberal douche bag u are lmao
Southernjuggalo63 1 week ago
@Southernjuggalo63 So you think a little girl being shot in the head is funny. What an ASSHOLE!
cromagnan 1 week ago
@cromagnan no but i think a asshole that carries a gun into a church then wants to show it off without knowing anything about the gun is retarded but to say all guns should be banned because of that is like banning spoons cause people get fat eating moron
Southernjuggalo63 1 week ago
@Southernjuggalo63 Try to wrap your little brain around this idea. Guns are being sold to people at gun shows in the south. The sellers don't agree with federal regulations, so they go around the process and sell guns to felons. The felons use the guns to kill people. Until you have a solution to this problem, there is no point in listening to anything you have to say.
cromagnan 1 week ago
@cromagnan and there are laws against such things so therefore its the failure of the federal government to do its regulating of such things lol i see your very anti-guns funny u dont seem to support the CONSTITUTION that forever allows the rights of gun ownership lol either your a liberal american or from a european country that is anti guns
Southernjuggalo63 6 days ago
@Southernjuggalo63 You have been living in the South too long. You are incorrect on all accounts. The US Gov has laws in place that are dictated by the NRA who has one mission, To Make Money. My comments have to do with keeping guns out of the hands of mentally ill people. There is no good program in place for that issue. The rest of your comments are simply rediculous.
cromagnan 5 days ago
@cromagnan hahaha the federal government regulates guns and makes money of the sale of guns u must not know anything about how guns are regulated so its the failure of the federal government to enforce punishments on men that sell to ill people not normal gun owners fault like myself p.s. nra gets donations i know i get their donation mail all the time since im a nra member
Southernjuggalo63 5 days ago
@cromagnan
You have a point.Problem is if you start with mentally ill,it WILL NOT STOP THER !! History has proven that.
Just like the way the current administration is DAILY taking away personal rights.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@rocket10racer I disagree. There is a line that should not be crossed. A mentally ill suicidal person should not own a gun. As long as the individual can show they have no history of mental illness and they have no history of violent behavior against a spouse or co-worker, then fine. I see no reason why it needs to go any further than that.
cromagnan 1 day ago
@Southernjuggalo63
The constitution does not support the right to own guns.It does support the the fact that God has given us the right of freedoms,each one of us.
If the Constitution is considered as a law,well?We know that laws can be changed.The right to own a gun is a right,not a law.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@rocket10racer actually the constitution was set up as a restraint for government from stepping over its boundaries no i have a founding father view as when it was ratified that it is not a living document but try to take away the guns from the citizens and see how many northerners and southerners unite to fight the federal government
Southernjuggalo63 1 day ago
@cromagnan Ironic, how your username belies your intellect.
Look at his comment, and apply some of the principles from 8th grade english. The part he thought was "funny" had nothing to do with the tragedy of a girl being shot. He was amused at your lack of realization regarding the source of the tragedy. Clearly, you still don't get it.
rmcdaniel423 1 week ago
@rmcdaniel423 Just like him you are a useless asswipe who does not care that children are being shot by GUNS. I am a parent, If anyone were to shoot my kids, they would need to worry less about the courts and worry more about what I would do to them. Now shut up unless you have something constructive to say. Think solution. C'mon, I know it tough with your small Republican brain, but you can do it!
cromagnan 1 week ago
@cromagnan I am not an "asswipe". You are incorrect, and have no basis for asserting that I don't care about children being shot. I am not republican. You offend me by making one unfounded false assertion after another.
I quote you: "If anyone were to shoot . . " Notice, you did not say "If a gun were to shoot . . ." Even YOU know that people are shot by people, not guns. By all means, treat the people who do harm with extreme prejudice. Just focus your anger properly.
rmcdaniel423 1 week ago
@cromagnan LOL, you actually think most crimes are committed with responsibly obtained, legally purchased guns? If you take guns away, it leaves criminals with weapons. So you don't think a person has the right to defend him/ herself and the people they love? Liberals don't seem to think things through.
GoreSmasher 1 week ago
@GoreSmasher Liberals don't think like normal people do. Normal people usually have some knowledge of what the conversation or issue is about before they form a opinion.
Libertyin2010 1 week ago
@GoreSmasher OK I accept the fact that you have a feeble brain and cannot understand the concept I am describing. Move on.
cromagnan 1 week ago
@cromagnan Lol@ you not having any argument against anything I said so you resort to kiddie insults.
ThunderBullitt 2 days ago
@ThunderBullitt Say something that makes sense and is based in FACTS and I will respond.
cromagnan 2 days ago
@cromagnan o ya? what u gonna do to the criminal that killed ur child while hes holding a gun? i mean u clearly dont own one, u gonna dial 911 and ask the armed murderer to wait in ur living room till police arrive? and then just take it on good faith hes not gonna turn the gun on u or other family members? ur to scared to own a gun thats fine, u think i shouldnt have 1 too? ur perfectly welcome to come to my house and attempt to take them, fucking prick.
kbforme 6 days ago
An infant was shot in the head two weeks ago by a GUN. Thanks Chuck, between you and Ted Nugent we will all get shot at some point.
cromagnan 1 week ago
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An 8-year-old girl is in critical condition Wednesday after she was shot in the abdomen at her elementary school near Seattle. Thanks alot Chuck, you are partially responsable.
cromagnan 1 week ago
I love how people feel like they can use a single country as an example of low rates of crimes and high rates of gun ownership and then just completely ignore the majority of the developed world.
Like I've said before, I'm not supporting a ban. I'm supporting stricter controls on sales to make it slightly harder for your average petty criminal to obtain a firearm than it is to buy a lollipop at a carnival.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66
stricter laws bring bans.Didn't that happen to you and England?
I've seen beautiful family heirlooms cut up.For what? It 's to keep people suppressed.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@rocket10racer
Damned youtube.Afraid someone is going to have a discussion so they limit usage.they are just the first to do so.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@Valyn66
Fuck this and you.It's like hearing turds hit the bottom of the toilet.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
Switzerland not the U.S. has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world. By law you are required to keep you gun after being released from compulsory military service-- the only caveat being it is altered to function in semi auto mode. Ammo is subsidized by the government and shooting clubs are a popular family affair. YET, they have one of the lowest gun crime rates in the world. This would suggest that a culture of crime and violence is America's problem--not guns.
rubymickey 2 weeks ago
@rubymickey That's a false statement. Switzerland does not have a higher rate of gun ownership than the United States. Take 5 seconds to look it up. Go ahead - I'll wait.
There. Now that we know the beginning of your statement is false, we can move on to the rest. Switzerland is both wealthier than the United States and culturally completely different. Gun ownership is part of their national defense; you grow up with them.
Let's not ignore the REST of Europe because of one nation
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 guns per 100 people is the U.S. but armed citizenry I'll go with Switzerland. As a modest gun owner with 4 pieces, every other person I know has got between 8 and 30 pieces. Where the U.S. really leads the pack is in ILLEGAL GUNS.
rubymickey 2 weeks ago
@rubymickey There is absolutely no argument or ambiguity anywhere - the United States is the most armed nation on the planet. Rates of gun ownership are, in terms of both total numbers of firearms and percentage of households owning a gun, higher in the United States than anywhere else.
Illegal guns. That's exactly the problem and exactly what I'm talking about. It's too easy to buy and then resell a gun. Felons, the mentally-disturbed, drug addicts - they all have a cakewalk.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 If you could totally make all guns magically disappear resulting in equality between criminals and law abiding citizens, I would surrender my guns and support banning all firearms. You have to make the following decision: Are guns the problem or strict regulation of law abiding citizens the problem. BTW: You are assuming I'm a Yank...I'm a Canadian and with the 4th highest gun ownership in the world--we don't have your problem due to draconian regulating/licensing.
rubymickey 2 weeks ago
@rubymickey I'm not assuming you're a "yank." It's a little hilarious to hear you try to claim that Canada has the 4th highest rate of gun ownership in the world, though. You need to check your statistics a bit, mate.
You aren't thinking about this properly. I understand that criminals won't obey the law. I'm not trying to regulate them, I'm trying to regulate the legal situation which facilitates them breaking the law.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 International Firearms Stats rate Canada #3
Mibazaar rates Canada #8
Wikipedia rates Canada #13th
Still waiting for your answer: Are guns the problem or regulation?
rubymickey 2 weeks ago
@rubymickey I think I've made it clear before, but it's worth stating again: regulation of gun sales is the problem. Not guns themselves.
But I certainly don't mean that in the sense that regulations preventing legal owners from buying guns are what cause crime or increase rates of lethal crimes. That's an absurd contention.
Simply put, it's too easy to buy a gun in the United States. Guns don't deter crime and they don't encourage it. Crime rates stay the same, more people die.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 Guns don't deter crime? Can you explain then why according to FBI crime statistics that the incidences of violent crime; murder, rape, car jacking etc. go down significantly in states that have adopted right to carry laws?
To say that regulations that Prevent legal owners from buying guns Don't cause an increase in crime IS Absurd.
Criminals are predators, they are far less likely to attack if they believe a person is armed and can defend themself. It's called Deterrence.
Dem0D1ck 1 week ago
@Valyn66
that is pure horseshit.In places where it is known people have guns,the crime rate is much lower. Would you rather face a poodle or a gun? Right.
The crime rate in the U.K. has multiplied since thugs know there are no guns.
Take Americans guns and we will have every mega maniac country trying to take us over.
They will just wait until leftliberalretards do it with the legal system. Peta,green tree huggers and all the rest of the bleeding hearts.pioneers would have left you to die !!!
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@rubymickey
The problem is the lack of CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. Law breakers know they will get three hots and a cot,t.v.,workout equipment,etc....................
Publicly kill them like other countries do and we would see less.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@rubymickey In Australia (where I currently reside in Melbourne), criminals have 3 options to obtain a firearm:
1. Buy a kit online at enormous cost, ship it to Australia, and build the gun in their garage.
2. Go through the ridiculously difficult process to obtain a sporting license.
3. Rob a military base or a police station.
Same criminal in the United States:
1. Stroll into a gun show with some cash.
2. Get their "no prior convictions" cousin to buy one at Walmart
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 You're mythafying. Most criminals in the U.S. don't buy their guns at gun shows. They're bought on the black market, the guns are usually stolen in a gun shop robbery or from a legal gun owner in a home burglary and sold on the street.
At least 90% of gun related crimes in the U.S. are committed with a hand gun, a percentage with shot guns, and very few with military weapons or hunting rifles. Hand guns are easier for them to conceal, try hiding an AK-47 in your pocket.
Dem0D1ck 1 week ago
@Dem0D1ck NOW who's "mythafying" That's utter nonsense. The majority of "black market" guns are BOUGHT legally and then sold illegally. That's the whole point. There's no control.
Valyn66 1 week ago
@Valyn66 Mythafying, spreading myths. OK, most illegal guns, as I've said are not obtained legally in the first place. They're stolen, either from legal gun owners or gun dealers. Forget a come back, I live in the States, you don't. You believe leftist propaganda, I don't. I don't even believe the propaganda your media in Australia passes of as news or fact.
BTW, even our own leftist politicians here don't even push that BS anymore because it can't be substantiated.
Dem0D1ck 1 week ago
@Dem0D1ck I grew up in the States, I'm an American citizen, and I've been treating gunshot wounds on three different continents for about as long as you've been alive, you little clown.
I don't "believe" propaganda of any type. If you're concerned about propaganda, you should stop suckling at the teat of the NRA. You're full of shit when you say the majority of guns used in crimes are stolen. What's easier? Going house to house robbing hoping to find a gun or strolling into Walmart?
Valyn66 1 week ago
@Valyn66 You obviously are a leftist libtard, otherwise the use of insults wouldn't be necessary. So, as a follow up, your an ignorant buffoon who really can't support their position with facts.
Keep listening to propaganda, it's really all you have. Myself, I'll stick to facts.
Dem0D1ck 1 week ago
@Dem0D1ck Yeah, sure buddy. Go ahead and claim that you "stick to the facts" and they support you while not actually backing up anything you say.
Typical NRA parrot. I have a CCW by the way
Valyn66 1 week ago
@Dem0D1ck Youtube is bugged at the moment and I can only post 190 characters on this video. When it's fixed, I'll respond in more depth. But there's a lot wrong with what you just said.
Valyn66 1 week ago
@Valyn66
It sucks when members of the Olympic team from the U.K. have to go to another country to practice.
You keep talking about criminals buying guns.At least the upstanding citizen can buy a gun to protect themselves.You can't.End of discussion !!!!!
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@rubymickey I don't know, I haven't checked the stats but what about Israel? They've been on a virtual war footing for over 60 years now, surrounded by Indians, mandatory military service for men and women over the age of 18, under the constant threat of terrorist attack, I would think they would have the highest rate of gun ownership in the world.
Dem0D1ck 1 week ago
@Dem0D1ck P.S. even ISRAEL has stricter gun control than the United States. You, like most overgrown NRA parrots, don't bother to actually read about the shit you try to sell. You don't even bother.
If guns deter crimes, why does the United States have a comparable or higher crime rate than the rest of the developed world when the United States is, unarguably, the most armed nation on the planet? Weird, right? All those guns and crime rates stay the same with lethal crimes 5x higher.
Valyn66 1 week ago
@Valyn66 You can't compare the US to Israel like that. You have to compare the US before gun control to the US after gun control. A lot of times you'll see that crime rates increase after imposing gun bans (take Chicago for instance). Once the gun ban was lifted crime rates plummeted.
epicjas0n 1 week ago
@epicjas0n You CAN'T compare a U.S. before and after gun control because there has never been a national gun control policy.
This is best illustrated by the ban in Washington D.C. - lethal crime rates dipped initially and then returned to previous rates. It was discovered that criminals were simply obtaining guns from neighboring states. And that will ALWAYS be the case unless there's a national policy. There has never been one, so we have to compare places where there has.
Valyn66 1 week ago
Ever since Chuck endorced Newt Gingrich, I lost respect for him. THe only guy standing up for gun rights in Ron Paul.
aaronandnicole 2 weeks ago
Chuck Norris for president 2012!!!
skibum1610 2 weeks ago
Yaaaaa Chuck!!!!!!!
kguitar765 3 weeks ago
Their is always people who think that taking guns away will solve the problem...When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns...what is it that you dont understand?? responsible people are the victims. If you are not a responsible person then you should maybe change youre ways.!! Tell it like it is Chuck Norris.
swampcabbage52 3 weeks ago
Id give 1 million bux to who ever could survive a chuck norris home invasion...
He would stare you to death b4 getting in the driveway
DisBoiWhitebread 3 weeks ago
i support freedom guns help keep you free from gov. control. slaves we r when disarmed thats what the left want to tell u what u can & cannot do r have./ R what they r is thives & robbers just like o b. if we must fight give us freedom r death.
BUBBA4728 3 weeks ago
Dear liberals,
Switzerland
d3ltadrive 3 weeks ago
Having a firearm to help you defend your home is wise,since if a burglar is bold enough to break into a home where they know someone is there, they are probably willing to hurt/kill you or your family.. Its not enough to just own a gun, one needs to know how/when to use it.
Of course if your home is broken into, contact the law if you can, but do not expect them to always get there in time to save you. Having a good Dog is great since some crooks are more afraid of a dog than a gun.
spiritwolfbro 4 weeks ago
11 people are defective
SlickVega 4 weeks ago
NOBODY LIKE THIS VIDEO THERE ARE 357 LIKES. SAME NUMBER OF THE PISTOL!!
LiftedRamPowerWagon 1 month ago
@LiftedRamPowerWagon everyone should just post "like." to let the poster know we like the video.
LIKE
GoodJobGuy 1 month ago
@GoodJobGuy ok. be an asshole and tell me or let me carry on with my life without knowing somebody acctually give a shit about what i said. just pointing out there were 357 likes of this video and i see others had liked it. but im sure there are people who agree with me and think it is quite ironic
LiftedRamPowerWagon 4 weeks ago
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@GoodJobGuy ok. be an asshole and tell me or let me carry on with my life without knowing somebody acctually give a shit about what i said. just pointing out there were 357 likes of this video and i see others had liked it. but im sure there are people who agree with me and think it is quite ironic
LiftedRamPowerWagon 4 weeks ago
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i wish britian would make laws more unrestircted i have a passion for firearms and if gun control works tell me ONE JUST ONE place that has lower crime rates becuase of gun contro land
i am very sad that i can not enjoy my hobby becuase the british people have been told lies and made up crap from the media why why why do people that have never shot a gun is always anti-gun shoot a gun before you say anything about gun control
MrGta12367 1 month ago
@MrGta12367 I can tell you about every developed nation on the planet with gun control which, while not enjoying "lower" rates of crimes, instead enjoy 1/5 or less the rate of lethal crimes than the United States. Oddly enough, if you make obtaining firearms about as easy as buying a lollipop at a carnival, your rates of lethal crime skyrocket. General crime rates stay the same. But everyone, criminal and otherwise, is armed, so the rate of lethal crime is orders of magnitude higher.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 yes i know a lot of countries with lower crime rates then amercia but what i am saying is can you tell me one country that the crime deacresed becuase of a gun ban or a new gun law
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and a gun ban would not take the guns of the criminals they would still use them they do not care what a peice of paper says its ileagal to murder someone but they do it any way
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 It's not about making it "more illegal" for criminals to be armed. It's about making it harder for them to get armed in the first place. And it IS possible to make it harder for criminals to get armed while still preserving the ability for law-abiding gun owners to buy guns.
It just takes a little common sense on the part of gun owners and willingness to jump through some hoops and inconvenience to keep them armed and the bad guys unarmed.
I do not support a gun ban.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and the fact is no leting people have guns mean more crime LOL so so stupid there are plenty of states in amercia which is full of guns and has very low crime rates california has the strictest gun control in amercia and it has one of the highest crime rates in the USA so no you are very very wrong
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 You can't compare the gun laws and crime rates between States. This fact has been illustrated with the Washington D.C. gun ban. While purchasing guns was illegal in D.C.criminals were able to obtain them anyway by simple driving across the state border and buying. This is true all over the country. When one State / city / municipality passes laws, criminals just bypass them using the "gun freedom" states like gigantic armories.
In Australia, the ban is total. And works.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and when i say crime rates i mean violent crime too
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 type in on youtube gun control uk and go on to the the one below gun control is a myth and on the video skip to 6:50
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 The rate of lethal crimes in the UK is 5 times lower than that of the United States and their rate of non-lethal crimes is almost identical to that of the United States. Which is perfectly illustrative of my point:
When you make obtaining firearms so easy to avoid the slightest inconvenience on "law-abiding owners" you also make it absurdly easy for petty criminals to get armed. The consequence of this is everyone is armed. Same crimes, more guns, more deaths.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and aswell why would a criminal buy a legal gun for $500+ when the criminal can buy a ilegal gun for $50 its just common sense
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 Because in places like Australia, they can't buy a gun for $50. They can't buy a gun for $500. They have to either smuggle it in from overseas in a kit, build it themselves, or rob a military base.
But anyway, I'm not going to waste any more time on you. There's a reason you're getting your ass kicked, here, and it's because you're parroting what other people have said without doing the actual research yourself.
"You're full of shit" is the best you can come up with?
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 you are full of shit
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 Nice argument, there, kid.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and have you ever even shot or held a REAL GUN
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and are you a women with children becuase women with children are always anti-gun
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 What a silly statement. You're doing a very good job illustrating the general level of education enjoyed by your typical "NRA parrot" type. I'm an adult male with a CCW permit and a whole collection of guns I inherited from my father. I grew up around guns.
I am, however, an educated person. And I've been all around the world. What you're asserting about guns and crime rates just aren't true. Guns don't deter crime; they don't encourage it. Just make it deadlier.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 i have another issue with guns dont deter crime so lets say i was a criminal and i knew that the house on the right was armed and the house on the left was not armed i would propaly pick the one that is not armed a world full of guns would be a world with very little crime
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 Then why are crime rates the same in the single most armed country in the world? There are 90 guns for every 100 citizens, here. If your contention were correct, crime rates should be incredibly low...right?
The simple fact of the matter is that crime is a function of social dynamics. Things like poverty, culture, etc. And crime is inevitable. In a world where the criminals are just as armed as the homeowner, what do you get? Somebody gets shot.
Lethal crime rate x5.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 well like i said washington dc very low firearm ownership compared to other states lets look at ohio or virgina high gun ownership low crime rates
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 What part of this are you not getting? You can't compare states because bypassing a ban in one state is as easy as a 40 minute drive to the next state over.
Let's look at COUNTRIES that completely ban firearms, shall we? Like Japan. And Australia. And most of Europe.
Same or lower crime rates, with lethal crime rates 1/5th, on average, that of the U.S.
You're walking in intellectual circles and I'm getting really bored of it.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 switzerland lowest violent crime rate in the world one of the highest firearm ownership in the world
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 Switzerland is unique in that. Remember those social issues I talked about? Things like culture, ethnic diversity, and education? Switzerland is a rich, safe country. They're armed heavily because that's their traditional form of defense. The United States has much, MUCH more guns than Switzerland and our rates of crime are twelve times higher than Switzerland.
Weird, huh?
Gonna have to do better than that kiddo.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 well all you can say is amercia has a higher crime rate then this country well for fuck sake THERE ARE PLENTY OF COUNTRIES WITH HIGH GUN OWNERSHIP and low crime
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 Name some of them. Other than Switzerland.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 czech finland norway norther ireland swedan france all have high gun ownership and low crime
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 What are you talking about "high gun ownership" rates? They have less than 1/3 the number of guns as the United States.
Bwhaha. This has gotten comical.
Okay, kiddo, I'm not going to waste any more of my day arguing with someone only barely even a teenager.
Stay in school. Try actually reading about things before you try to debate. I did 4 years of university, followed by 4 years of medical school, followed by another 3 years of residency.
Catch up and we'll talk.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 what are you anti-gun or progun you said you have guns but it semms you are very anti-gun weird
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and yes i have done some reaserch on gun control
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and aswell if chuck norris says gun control is bull shot you better listen end of arguement if you do not belive in what chuck norris says you need some help
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 That's the funniest thing you've said yet.
Don't you have some aliens to go kill in Halo or whatever it is you kids shoot at in video games these days?
P.S. The world isn't black and white. I can support gun ownership while also supporting strict procedural controls on the sale of firearms. The good guys can jump through a few hoops to buy a gun. That keeps them armed and all the petty criminal losers forced to smuggle or steal their guns. Which isn't easy.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 what did i just say if chuck norris the man himself letting you sissies know about gun control says gun control is bull shit you better listen
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 what the hell did i just say in my other comments i said i want sensible gun laws like finland in one of my toher comments i agreed that britain and the us need sensible gun laws that do not prevent sport shooters and hunters from getting guns put helps prevent criminals from getting guns
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66
Fuck that"Good guys jumping through hoops" bullshit. If you aren't 100% for guns,your part of the problem.I don't care if you are a life member of the NRA.If you give an inch,they will take your guns.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@MrGta12367 Here are the top 5 countries by gun ownership:
1. The United States.
2. Serbia
3. Yemen
4. Switzerland
5. Saudi Arabia
Hmm...
Weird, right?
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 the only reason those countrys have high crime rates is becuase they are very very poor amercia no they are nor poor but the rest of the countrys you said do have high gun onwership and high crime but most of those country are very poor and have no toher option but to defend themselfes with a gun
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 when will i get it in youtr thick skull gun control does work and dont say look at amercia there are plenty of countries with little gun control and low crime rates and do not say its becuase they have got a diffrent culture crime is nothing to do with culture
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 You're just squawking NRA talking points at me like a giant human parrot. The simple fact of the matter is that the United States is unique in the developed world. We are the single most armed country on the planet, yet our rate of crime is similar to or higher than any other developed nation. Our rates of murder, suicide, and other lethal crimes are about five times higher.
If guns deter crime, why aren't our crime rates lower? Most guns in the world...same crime rates
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and i have a propelem with your why amercias crime rates are so high compared to other countries well there are PLENTY parts of amercia that has low crime rates and high gun ownership lets look at washington dc it has a 86.1 crime rate and dc has one of the strictest gun laws in amercia virgina has a crime rate of 1.6 dont belive me look it up
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 I already tried to explain to you why you can't compare individual pieces of the United States. For every area with high rates of gun ownership and low rates of crimes, there is another area with high rates of crimes and high rates of gun ownership. And for every one of those, there's an area with low rates of gun ownership and low rates of crimes.
If a whole state banned guns completely tomorrow, criminals would just drive across the border and buy guns. This is simple
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 that is what i said you cant ban guns criminals will always have guns no matter what
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 Sigh. Just sigh.
I'm going to say this slowly:
That
is
not
true.
Get it yet? Criminals will get guns "no matter what" in the United States, because getting a gun is as easy as strolling into a gun show with some cash. Or buying one from a buddy who doesn't have a felony record.
Criminals are NOT getting guns in places like Australia because they just aren't available. Nobody has guns, therefore the only way to get them is through ridiculously expensive means.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 hahaha lol i live in england we banned handguns here when we banned handguns we had a 40percent crime increase and criminals still have handguns in the uk there are around 4milion ilegal guns in the uk
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 Oh so that must mean the rest of the developed world is wrong? Your arguments are absurd, kid. You throw out one example of a place and then go, "See! See! I told you so! It's all about the gun laws!"
As you get older, you'll start to realize that crime is a function of much more complicated issues than firearms. And the UK has problems that facilitate its situation. How about tackling little things like immigration and self-defense laws before giving everyone a handgun?
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 who said i wanted to give everyone a hand gun and i know immigration is a very big issue i know and yes i am a kid im 13
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 and there are guns that criminals can get in australia
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66
He may be 13 but he is correct. Criminals can get guns,they always have.
If not guns,bombs,baseball bats,knives,rocks,whatever.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
@Valyn66 and asswell yes i do belive that amercia should have sensible gun laws but not as strict as us british get i would like britian to have laws like finland or czech and aswell i do not belive you are a gun owner could you tell me what guns you have becuase thats not like a gun owner to say something like that
MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@MrGta12367 I have already said the guns I have. I concealed carry a Glock 36 because I like how thin it is; I find it more comfortable. I also own a range of antique and modern rifles, everything from a Remington 12-gauge to a pair of Model 19 .357 Magnums.
I don't give two shits whether you believe I'm a gun owner or not. You need to actually listen to what I'm saying. I don't support a ban. I also don't support the U.S. policy of making guns as easy to obtain as lollipops.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
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MrGta12367 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 Obtaining firearms ILLEGALLY is about as easy as you put it, and even if you got your little nazi dream of disarming everybody so we can live in your liberal big government paradise, criminals WOULD STILL get ahold of guns.. because CRIMINALS DO NOT GET THEIR GUNS LEGALLY YOU MORON! God you anti gun, big gov loving freaks are really lacking common fucking sense aren't you. Also provide proof where these gun controlled nations enjoy "lower" crime rates, because you're wrong.
LunarPoetry473 2 weeks ago
@LunarPoetry473 Let's not put words in my mouth. I didn't advocate disarming anybody and, though it's really none of your business, I both grew up shooting guns and carry a Glock 36 everywhere it is legal to do so while I'm in the United States. Why, you may ask? Because I know that U.S. law makes it absurdly easy for every drugged up loser who wants to rob a pharmacy to obtain a firearm. I feel forced to carry.
While in Australia, I do not carry. And I feel very safe.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66 Riiiiight, because Australia is different right? Crime is just as bad IF NOT worse since that cunt decided to take away people's guns and melt em down. No shit it's absurdly easy to obtain a firearm, that has nothing to do with LEGALLY purchasing a gun, hence why government gun control wouldn't do anything to criminal intentions. Also you still have yet to provide proof of your little "My favorite democratic socialist gun controllers enjoy lower crime" statement.
LunarPoetry473 2 weeks ago
@LunarPoetry473 I have provided "proof" of that statement over and over again in probably 8 different posts in this cesspool of a thread alone. What exactly more do you want?
I'm so tired of this crap. You guys just want to believe the way you do, so you stubbornly stick your fingers in your ears and start howling "Nuh uh! Nuh uh!" when somebody comes along and points out that the rate of lethal crimes in the U.S. is 4-5 times higher than the rest of the developed world.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@LunarPoetry473 It's only absurdly illegal to obtain firearms in the United States. Why? Because there are so few safeguards on the sale of firearms that criminals don't even need to break a sweat to get them. Have a buddy pick one up at Walmart or stroll into a gun show with cash. In Australia, they have to either build them in their basement or steal them from a military base.
Now which do you think is easier, asshole? Look at the lethal crimes rate in Australia.
Valyn66 2 weeks ago
@Valyn66
you're just pissed because you can't own one.
Next time you're in fear for your life call for a cop with a billy club.
rocket10racer 1 day ago
It takes me less time to take the safety off of my 357 magnum, aim and fire. Than it does to pick up the phone, call 911, and explain to some random stranger that someone is robbing me or trying to kill me.
JOROZC7009 1 month ago
why did bruce lee let chuck out of his pen?
richie8811 1 month ago
Who the hell disliked this?
yujg12 1 month ago
You have no right to call yourself a Patriot after endorsing Gingrich..he will disarm everyone because he's a Chamilion..An amoral freak !!!..Ron Paul the true Patriot and real Christian taotally honest..Once they go hollwood they turn..Ted Nugent has it right!!!
ronpaulfreedom1 1 month ago
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i am very very depressed and upset that i have no almost no chance of owning a firearm in britiain i think its about 1 in 10 who apply for a licence will get one and i will not be able to shoot hand guns or -fully or semi auto rifles and it makes me feel very sad and i can not move to amercia becuase its almost impossible to get a green card you have to be some rich person or a doctor to get one people do not know what its like being a person who loves guns and living in britian
GUNnut247 1 month ago
Only Ron Paul supports 2A.
chivenyc 1 month ago
i used to like chuck.
he sided with gingrich, so either he has lost his mind, or hell froze over. he couldnt have made a worse choice based on a candidates views on the second amendment.
grinch is just another liar that wil;l say anything to get elected, throw the people a few bones to ensure a second term, then
A:he doesnt think he will win a second term so he waits til the of 1st, then starts pushin agenda, or
B: wins, then goes apeshit on the Constitution for 4 years
edslides1 1 month ago 2
@edslides1 Sorry, buddy, but NONE of the current GOP potential candidates have anything to offer. Really, objectively and with an open mind, listen to the State of the Union address and the GOP response to it. If you can't see what the practical GOP is about after Mitch Daniels' enumeration of tired, refuted policies and blind hysteria, there's just no hope for American Democracy. Do I think Obama is great? No. But for the love of God, the guy hasn't had a chance to do ANYTHING.
Valyn66 1 month ago
@Valyn66
obama has had plenty of time to do many things. and he has.
he signed our internet over to a globalist organization (acta)
he is tryin "under th radar" to do away with the second amendment.
he regularly violates Constitutional doctrine (national healthcare mandates, questionable cabinet appointments) trillions of dollars of debt
his belief that his powers are absolute
and he is a pathological liar
either he is evil, or hes incompetent
either way it gives me the heebiejeebies
edslides1 1 month ago
@edslides1 Ed, those are straw man arguments completely unfounded in reality. I'm not going to try and engage in some debate about the relative merits of presidential candidates. I'm very much done with this thread and all the people in it.
All I ask is that you actually take the time to research what you just said. I could go line by line and DROWN you in evidence against every hysterical little claim you just made. I really could.
But I'm leaving this up to you. Truth or not.
Valyn66 1 month ago
@Valyn66
nothing i said was wrong, except maybe he doesnt actually fit the clinical definition of "pathological liar"
regardless he is a liar.
edslides1 1 month ago
@edslides1 All politicians are "liars" if you really want to define it that way. In truth, he does nothing more than present the most favorable facts in support of his arguments, exactly the same as every GOP candidate currently in the field.
I'm asking you to research the actual polices you've criticized. Research "trickle down" economics. Research nationalized health care. I can tell you as someone who has practiced medicine all around the world that the U.S. system is a disgrace.
Valyn66 1 month ago
Awesome!!!!
burnrider2001 1 month ago
@tplur4426 I ain't your bro, cunt patrol. Your head clearly fits up your ass, now try and pull it out. You'd be able to see what I said wasn't meant as self righteous, just an observation, which youtube is full of if you weren't too busy trying to critique others. Take your half assed logic elsewhere.
FeralBlackOut 1 month ago
In world war II Chuck Norris shot down a German plane by pointing his finger at it and saying bang!
soukupb 1 month ago
i wonder who the 10 oxygen thieves are?
wheatgrinder762by54 1 month ago
"WE Don't Dial 911", Oh Chuck.
TheEllampalli 1 month ago
Tired old debate becomes troll attempt becomes at 4 day old (at least) argument on the same Chuck Norris informational video. Just proves how much time some people have i guess.
FeralBlackOut 1 month ago
@FeralBlackOut yeah right bro. it just take SOOOO much time to write out 1 paragraph comments. take your self righteous shit elsewhere.
tplur4426 1 month ago
Can we plz cut the comments down to a sentence plz? thank you.. Fucking liberal..
xRemisHx 1 month ago
Hey have a look at my song "The Guns of Freedom" on my youtube page. Hope I'm not too presumtuous by posting this, but it seemed fitting and I really think you'll dig it.
jerryjenningsmusic 1 month ago
I love Chuck!
fork1964 1 month ago
no
TheTFlon 1 month ago
for the last time the second amendment is my carry permit.
obama is destroying this country, one illegal, unconstitutional
executive order/recess appointment at a time.
does anyone really believe the average high school grad does not see that?
get your bugout bags ready folks, the revolution is upon us.
please open your eyes, people
and dont come knockin on my door askin for my food (and get your own damn bullets)
30 day food supplies on ebay for $160, 25 year shelflife 3 squares x 30
edslides1 1 month ago
Chuck Fucking Norris
MoonbatKiller 1 month ago
@MoonbatKiller tell chuck that to his face
rte66byhd 1 month ago
@rte66byhd It was a compliment, dummy.
MoonbatKiller 1 month ago
@MoonbatKiller well pardon me all to hell mo'fo'.
rte66byhd 1 month ago
@rte66byhd You are pardoned...
MoonbatKiller 1 month ago
So all you Chuck Norris ball sweaters should all be conservatives by now. He's one. So if he kicks ass so much, put your money where your mouth is and vote like Chuck.
rodge2001 1 month ago
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I am no atheist by strict definition, but more and more I am thinking that "God" is an exploitative, highly criminal, alien race having "fun" with humanity before THE SECOND COMING-uh oh..
Anyone for lunch? Anyone NOT wanna be on the menu?
amitus8 1 month ago
Chuck Norris for president
danceswithcatfish 1 month ago
I now have a new kind of respect for Chuck Norris!
james1375446 1 month ago
It's like Arnald becoming govenor, but Chuck is american so he could become president. And he would win, there is no competition against him.
DrMFoster7 1 month ago
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12-31-12: EMPEROR OBAMA SIGNS NATIONAL DEFENSE LAW TO: ARREST, DETAIN ~INDEFINITELY~ WITHOUT, PROBABLE CAUSE AND WITHOUT TRIAL US FREE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS IMPLEMENTS MARTIAN LAW AND MILITARY DRAFT! omg! PLEASE CONSIDER RON PAUL!!!
FrancineStar 1 month ago
I go to every gun show that comes to town. I have seen people ask dealers if they have to do the paperwork on private stock and I've seen the dealers all of the sudden decide their private stock is not for sale anymore. Most dealers I know will not sell their private stock to someone whom they don't know, or they will require you to have a CCW permit before they will. Yes, there are a few who will sell to anyone.
auburn886 1 month ago 2
Gun show loophole blah blah blah. If I want a gun, I don't have to go to a gunshow and buy from a dealer's private stock. There are the want ads, word of mouth, people sell guns privately outside of gun shows all the time. If I'm a felon, I can steal one, or do as one did in NYC. He just walked up behind a cop and cold cocked him and took his gun. Thankfully, he was caught. Gun laws only affect the law abiding.
auburn886 1 month ago
Id rather be shot than take a chuck norris round house kick to the face...
charlesjones32787 1 month ago