In Theory, The velocity of the ball would increase substanteously given that the mass of the ball and the power of the magnets would be great enough. Now then, im only 14, and yet cant fit into my head why this doesnt work. it makes SENSE that every action consumes energy in which must come from either a potential or "Stored" source, or from a direct source like a push. The Friction would inevitably call the ball to a stop, but if the force of the magnets would be enough, wed have infinite power
anyone can make a ball roll downwards, but can you make a ball roll in a circle on a pretty much level plane? I can, and mine don't stop rolling till you make it stop. It works because even though the track is mostly Level, the tracks are also spread farther apart on one side making the ball actually think that it is traveling slightly down when it is actually going slightly up... not much fun in that though till you put a couple magnetic coils under the iron ball...
@wirlin92 so what you just described to us is a machine that defies gravity... if the track is slowing spreading, then the ball is slowly sinking as it moves along the track. And once the track reaches the width of the ball at its widest the ball will fall through. Either you made this up or the laws of physics don't apply where you live.
Small problem here. It takes just as much energy to move something away from a magnet as you get from the magnet pulling it in. It's like trying to build a motor with springs. Sure you can get quite a lot of energy out of them but no more than you put in.
Find a way to block or cancel out the magnetic field which takes less energy than you get from pulling something toward the magnet; then you'll have something to talk about.
@LorddGray ya know, i've been watching these vids for years now but I have to admit, you summed it up quite nicely! The spring analogy is really good, while it doesn't represent the 'pull' factor that a magnet has, it's still understood. Thanks for posting, it's nice to hear something explained simply while not trying to sound like a genius.
@ItsALongboard Because energy is conserved. The ball is converting potential energy in a magnetic field to kinetic energy and then back again. It could at most reach its starting position if the system was 100% efficient, but in practice some energy will be lost. The description says it's "powered" by magnets, but there's no such thing as magnetic energy. The only ability to do work in that system comes from the potential energy of the starting position.
wouldn't it be possible to build one of these without it stopping at the end? perhaps a design so the ball is hovering over something like the famous stair optical illusion and essentially falling down infinite stairs?
@YokoX23 no. the purpose of the magnets are to both reduce the energy loss caused by friction and giving the ball direction. but perpetual motion machines cannot exist because friction cannot be completely eliminated.
@YellingSilently The universe is a perpetual motion machine. It has existed for eternity. (I draw this conclusion from the fact that something can neither come from nor become nothing.) If it wasn't in perpetual motion it would be completely cold and dead.
I don't get the hate for this video, it is literally what it advertises: A ball travels 360 degree circle, utilising the power of magnets to traverse the upward phase of its journey.
@geordietoddy an airless chamber could fix that. To actually make it perpetual, you'd need magnets that stay that.... Magnetized.... Forever. Without forever consistent magnets, you'd need to replace the magnets every once in a while (depends on magnet). Personally, I think solar power is the way to go.
True, the magnets may eventually lose their magnetic forces but there's also a shit-ton of friction going on here.
You'll lose all the energy to friction very very rapidly. In practise you'll never need to worry about the magnets.
Also as the ball gets attracted to each new magnet in line, it also get attracted by the previous magnet it just passed this adds up and soon the ball is as motionless as the like bar for this video.
@haunted beetlejuice: Why? Im not trying to be difficult but if you created a circle of magnets, faced all the north poles inwards, then rotated them 45 - 60 degrees, and put a cone in the centre, surely a magnetized ball would be continually pushed around by the magnets? Ok, so as an energy generator it would be impractical, but I see no problem with a combination of magnets and gravity being used to push a ball around indefinitely. No doubt others have tried this and failed, but why?
@MotNguoiNuocNgoai Sorry to interrupt your discussion. It wouldn't work, because there is still friction (between the ball and the air), so the ball would eventually come to a stop.
@geordietoddy wrong. if the force produced overcomes or equals the dynamic force of friction, the net force is 0 meaning it will never stop. this includes air friction or drag. theoretically.
perpetual movement really is something utopic with magnets, but i think we can minimize energy loses with it, isnt it? so we cam make ``cheap`` movement, or more durable movement mechanisms.
I think part of the problem is the inability of the inventors to come up with practical uses that are easily demonstrated for the common man. People want to invest in a sure thing, they don't like risks. Big oil also doesn't like competition, they pay the media to paint alternative energy as "quack"
science or fraudulent endeavor. That just sucks major ASS for you and me, for now. Not much longer tho, I already feel a slight breeze on my cheek...the winds of change are starting to blow!
If ideas were really feasible and usable then someone would have them in place or would be getting them to market unless there is a technological hurdle.
@RisingPhoenix120 WE have technology that is far more advanced than what we are actually using. ITs all a matter of making money from it and being able to produce/market/sell it. WE will never have a technology designed and created just because. Socialist countries like japan have more resources to develop this kind of tech but even they dont get past a certain phase because its just not worth it.
@RisingPhoenix120 Dude, there are solar panels 10x the strength of the ones we have currently. They won't get released for a long time because it means energy corporations won't make money from it. They also are already selling the current shit solar panels at a frequent rate so there is no need to bring in a new generation unless sales dip.
@saxplayingcompnerd If you think gravity is more efficient than magnets, get a tiny magnet and hold a metal ball under it. Watch that tiny magnet create a force greater than the gravity of the ENTIRE Earth.
@saxplayingcompnerd: Well gravity is the weakest of the 4 forces. Think about it - a tiny magnet overcome the entire Earth's gravity by lifting up say a paperclip.
@saxplayingcompnerd no, gravity is the weakest force in the universe. Gravity is governed by mass. the more massive an object is, the greater its gravitational pull. Think how big the earth is compared to a tiny magnet, gravity is so weak that a huge planet the size of earth can lose in a tug of war between the earth a paper clip and a little magnet. not only that but gravity is so weak that despite the earth's immense size, your body can jump in the air, walk around & run without being squashed
@MGazT Then explain how it holds onto 81 billion tons of Moon. A magnet is NOT gravitational And as you said gravity is dictated by mass this includes the mass of the object. The grater the mass of the object the stronger the pull. A paperclip is very light its magnetic attraction supersedes its mass. Big shock. And Yeah gravity is guna be weak next to the forces that keep freaking MATTER together But it still gives a tiny ball of gas the power to hold onto 8 planets, and millions of asteroids.
@MGazT You're thinking in the wrong frame of mind. Think of the paperclip is too small to contain enough gravity to be PUSHED towards Earth. Or that it hasn't enough mass to be affected by Earths 'gravitational pull'. Yet having free electrons (being metal) makes it highly magnetic.
@saxplayingcompnerd Actually it is kinda interesting because, the ball is moving up and down..but the force has to be replenished for it to keep going..
@saxplayingcompnerd You think gravity is more efficient? Consider the following: It takes all of the mass of the ENTIRE WORLD to make your ball roll down that hill. This only takes a few magnets.
@vaughanify Gravity is effective over the entire width of the universe and is produced by all concentrations of matter. Electromagnetic fields...not so much. In either case, the question is, how do you harness this to provide "work"?
After the 1st ball starts, place a 2nd ball where the 1st one stops. When the 1st one comes around it will hit the 2nd one to begin its lap around and then it will circle around and hit the other one and keep going.
@Jeffrosplace if the first ball doesn't have enough energy to make it into the second loop, it won't have enough energy to transfer to the second ball to start it moving
I notice that out of all these machines...none have used resonance at all. I wonder if it could be possible to have the ball ocsillate at the right frequency to "cut" through the intial force of entering a magnets field...so when it enters it flows with the current appropriately...but would be able to use the "outgoing" force of the maget on the way out? Would a sound wave work?
Out of energy. In the end, it was a good run, actually. Lesser implementations rarely get the traveling particle back to where it started, looking in such good shape.
@frithwks its kinda funny that your quoting physics whilst you fail to realise the fact that each magnet exerts a force of kinetic energy onto the ball, thus even if the ball was able to sustain a constant motion it isnt breaking the laws of thermodynamics due to the presence of the magnets which are giving the ball energy
There is no such thing as infinite energy. Unless you can find some way to pull energy through wormholes and steal energy from other time-spaces, you can't have limitless energy.
Also, gov'ts don't want elec cars because they don't get as much money back from the people. Think of all the parts and gas that are taxed to no end.
I invented a breakthrough energy source which violates the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. I am looking for $30 000 for a prototype and $3M for patents. Making a 6 kW generator will cost $1200 in mass production, value of the energy produced per year $5400.
There are no known forms of shielding from magnetism, engineers simply conduct it away by using steel, check out FuelBan & Magnet Motors 1.wmv ........ videos 1 to 3, you can get an idea how to manipulate the steel to suite rotation. But it is not shielding , you are conducting forces away from a given location.
If you put it there you gave it energy, which is fine, but the very fact that it is making noise means that the systems is losing energy along the way.
well, you can actually do the think on the video, IF you use a spetial material that doesn't lose energy when electrons travel throught. the problem is, these materials onli work on very low temperature. and you have to use a lot of N liquid.
That took a lot of work. Keep it up. I'm here to say that when the first caveman was carving out a wheel all the others were grunting at him that it wouldn't work because the thing would be too heavy to push all over the place :)...we may have yet to tame the ox and discover the proverbial oil for this device but it's there.
Yeah, that's my point - as reistive forces will always be present, perperual acceleration would in fact be necessary to guarantee overall perpetual motion. While in theory you can "gently push a ball on a level surface and it rolls a mile" (TTKMKaizen's comment), in the real world there is ALWAYS a resistive force, even as tiny as radiation pressure in space.
Actually, perpetual motion is completely possible. Perpetual acceleration, however is not. Consider Newton's first law: (In the absence of a net force, the center of mass of a body either is at rest or moves at a constant velocity). Perpetual motion is a given as long as there are no resistive forces on the object. Perpetual motion using a device such as this is impossible, as perpetual acceleration (a constant force) would be required to overcome the forces of friction and air resistance.
Now, I understand that perpetual motion, for the time being, is impossible. I also understand that you cannot get more energy out of something than you put in (eg you gently push a ball on a level surface and it rolls a mile)
But think for a second about this experiment, the ball is only elevated from the track a few millimeters and the guy gives it a little push yet it makes a full run of the track.
@TTKMKaizen I also forgot to mention that the force a magnet has on a magnetic object in relation to the distance between them is not a linear constant.
NICE, Gravity assisted Ball-Bearing falling and then Magnetized Ball-Bearing on the up slope...just watch that ball bounce. Please may I use it in ANY Casino Legally :)) Damn, I just lost my Money again!
@XxWhoopiexX Just looked at him - not on youtube - too many cranks, but I read several news stories about him and his hydrogen car. The Philipine government have declared it a hoax, and also dingel was found guilty of fraud for misappropriating $410,000 which was supposed to help bring his idea to market.
who exactly would benefit from suppressing such ideas anyway? most countries are getting crippling debts from buying oil, and there is a war going on to secure rights to what is left of it!
@LionCome well, actually its the oposite, they create watter with H and O. these cars already exist, i have seen them, the problem is stocking the H, if you let a little O near it, there is a huge explosion.
@XxWhoopiexX very true a man was killed and all his research burned and destroyed (you cant get rid of a car by burning it) HYDROGEN POWER LEARN IT!!!!!!!!!!!! not a fuel tank full of hydro... a tank full of water and an engine that splits the molecules
most people think youd be sitting on a bomb NOT TRUE!!!!
great job! don't pay attenetion to the skeptics. this is by far the best depiction of the "Vortex Theory" i have seen anywhere. kudos to you on breaking the law of conservation of energy as surely any energy expended to make or view this vid is rendered forever useless. thank you.
They do. Even peranent magnets run out of energy. Every time a magnet comes close to another magent (which is always because of magno-gravitational fields), the atoms are moved into a sluightly different pattern. The more the pattern changes, the weaker the magnet.
Very true, although I think that the only way that one would be able to make this device work would be to employ the use of some complex network of electromagnets that dynamically change polarity with the passing of the ball.
Just thought of something; what if you made the first magnet fairl weak and slowly progress to a very powerful magnet at the end? The powerful magnet might be able to push the ball around to the weak magnet, which would then accelerate the ball again to the strong magnet. Would this work theoretically?
a problem with magnetics is that eventually they will all come to share an equal amount of pull after sitting close to each other over time(they will all eventually even out with each other).
now if you could say, isolate the magnets from each other but still keep the field going.....then you might well have something interesting.
The magnets are positioned such that they roughly cancel out the gravitational force acting on the ball. If you give the ball a little bit of a push it will roll up the magnets and momentum will carry it over the edge.
If you designed the track extremely carefully, with nice gentle slopes, it is in principle possible to get the ball bearing to roll around with as little friction as a ball bearing on a flat circular steel track.
when you approach the ball to the magnet, you have to keep it back , basically giving and storing some potential energy in form of magnetic field "stress". When you release the ball , the energy stored will be given up as motion till ....whatever will happen ...and stay at minimum until you stick your fingers again into the stuff ...or whatever is that extraterrestrial technology based perpetuum mobile machine... :-) Anyway its a nice piece of mechanical sculpture !
@konatsukuonji Are those the same "laws" of physics that once had Galileo Galilei placed under house arrest for saying the earth was round? Or maybe the kind that said AC electricity was pointless and dangerous? Take care not to fall in with the group of naysayers that the world ends up laughing at for all eternity. Surely then it will be your ego that implodes, and not the Universe, however similar in size they might be
@jimmytea1 I think you misunderstand: it was Galileo's great ability to be rational and scientific that enabled him to discover the things not accepted by the insistence-over-fact crowd (that's you). Physics enabled Galileo, they did not hinder him.
I'm afraid my ego will be just fine. Since science demands no involvement of ego, and I would be glad to expand my understanding of the universe, even if contradictory to my current understanding. =) But that requires evidence, not wishes.
@konatsukuonji. True. What then of Boson particles, which violated accepted thinking that no two particles could occupy the same space, at the same time? Philosophically, evidence of Boson particles was not needed for them to exist, they always were; mostly we seek "evidence" to help us understand what we already observe. Sneering at the posters experiment, likening it to the implosion of the universe, to me includes a rather large amount of ego, little science, and a distinct lack of courtesy
@jimmytea1 I'm sorry that you misunderstood me yet again.
True science is based on observation and testing. Over-unity "science" is based on insistence, personal attacks (against my ego, no less), and more insistence.
Once someone creates a perpetual energy device that actually works, then please feel free to haw haw at me about how wrong I was. IN FACT I WILL JOIN YOU. And hell, I'll be excited about the discovery!
Until then, please stop using bosons to try and justify throwing out physics.
I too am sorry that we misunderstand one another. I was under the impression that the poster was in fact "observing and testing", perhaps not achieving PE, but trying none the less. As for using Bosons to illustrate my point, that is no justification for "throwing out physics" as you so eloquently put it, in fact quite the opposite. It shows us how limited our understanding of our universe can be at any one time, and that no one can ever be 100% sure that something is "impossible". EOD.
@jimmytea1 I suppose I have to concede that we can never really be 100% sure about anything.. but still, you're not likely to tie yourself to the ground and tell people "laugh at me now, but one day this gravity thing will be proven wrong and then you'll all look like idiots!"
The real irk with these wankel "motors" is that they are a fantastic physical representation of entropy, but the people that build them are completely oblivious to that.
I don't think there is such thing as permanent magnets... but it looks cool! XD
marioclub12 3 days ago
WOW!
gsfhg 3 days ago
In Theory, The velocity of the ball would increase substanteously given that the mass of the ball and the power of the magnets would be great enough. Now then, im only 14, and yet cant fit into my head why this doesnt work. it makes SENSE that every action consumes energy in which must come from either a potential or "Stored" source, or from a direct source like a push. The Friction would inevitably call the ball to a stop, but if the force of the magnets would be enough, wed have infinite power
Zarrykotter 3 days ago
Truth in advertising: It is indeed, with out a doubt, a ball rolling.........being pushed by permanent magnets. Good job! So what was the point?
statikreg 2 weeks ago
this would be amazing if it didnt stop
djkahnivore 3 weeks ago
Why so many dislikes, this thing is awesome!
TheTopMostDog 1 month ago
anyone can make a ball roll downwards, but can you make a ball roll in a circle on a pretty much level plane? I can, and mine don't stop rolling till you make it stop. It works because even though the track is mostly Level, the tracks are also spread farther apart on one side making the ball actually think that it is traveling slightly down when it is actually going slightly up... not much fun in that though till you put a couple magnetic coils under the iron ball...
wirlin92 1 month ago
@wirlin92 The ball doesn't "think" anything. The ball will stop rolling in a hurry unless you continue to power it.
aluisious 1 month ago
@wirlin92 does it roll forever without any electricity?
hardXcoreminecraft 2 weeks ago
@wirlin92 so what you just described to us is a machine that defies gravity... if the track is slowing spreading, then the ball is slowly sinking as it moves along the track. And once the track reaches the width of the ball at its widest the ball will fall through. Either you made this up or the laws of physics don't apply where you live.
Ezsh13 2 weeks ago
Why have so many people downvoted this?? The video does exactly what it says it will.
MetroAdventures 2 months ago 3
@MetroAdventures but it stops on it's own, it wasn't supposed to.
Deliphin11 2 months ago
I know how to make this work non stop, email me
smartstuff2buy 2 months ago
@smartstuff2buy ya me too! get a little midget to stand by it and keep flickin it....
I want to build one and see what I would have to do to keep it goin...
dirtMcgert5 2 months ago
Small problem here. It takes just as much energy to move something away from a magnet as you get from the magnet pulling it in. It's like trying to build a motor with springs. Sure you can get quite a lot of energy out of them but no more than you put in.
Find a way to block or cancel out the magnetic field which takes less energy than you get from pulling something toward the magnet; then you'll have something to talk about.
LorddGray 2 months ago
@LorddGray ya know, i've been watching these vids for years now but I have to admit, you summed it up quite nicely! The spring analogy is really good, while it doesn't represent the 'pull' factor that a magnet has, it's still understood. Thanks for posting, it's nice to hear something explained simply while not trying to sound like a genius.
Tzstep 2 months ago
That's pretty good but I can make my balls roll around in your mom's mouth and not expend any energy. Feels good, man.
clownbaton 2 months ago 3
Attach it to a flywheel
DjGisME 2 months ago
Would've been better if it went on forever.
dreamingWisdom 3 months ago
Why is it so hard to get the last bit?
ItsALongboard 3 months ago
@ItsALongboard Because energy is conserved. The ball is converting potential energy in a magnetic field to kinetic energy and then back again. It could at most reach its starting position if the system was 100% efficient, but in practice some energy will be lost. The description says it's "powered" by magnets, but there's no such thing as magnetic energy. The only ability to do work in that system comes from the potential energy of the starting position.
Gnomefro 2 months ago 2
whats the point of this ?
MistaDollaD 3 months ago
make a rail cannon
VictorVonFox 4 months ago
glad it only did 1 round.. i'd cut my ears of if it kept goin forever
fyte4luv808 4 months ago
wouldn't it be possible to build one of these without it stopping at the end? perhaps a design so the ball is hovering over something like the famous stair optical illusion and essentially falling down infinite stairs?
YokoX23 4 months ago
@YokoX23 no. the purpose of the magnets are to both reduce the energy loss caused by friction and giving the ball direction. but perpetual motion machines cannot exist because friction cannot be completely eliminated.
YellingSilently 4 months ago
@YellingSilently The universe is a perpetual motion machine. It has existed for eternity. (I draw this conclusion from the fact that something can neither come from nor become nothing.) If it wasn't in perpetual motion it would be completely cold and dead.
momentinpassing 4 months ago
I don't get the hate for this video, it is literally what it advertises: A ball travels 360 degree circle, utilising the power of magnets to traverse the upward phase of its journey.
That's it. its a curious novelity, nothing more.
Lollocide 5 months ago 18
@geordietoddy an airless chamber could fix that. To actually make it perpetual, you'd need magnets that stay that.... Magnetized.... Forever. Without forever consistent magnets, you'd need to replace the magnets every once in a while (depends on magnet). Personally, I think solar power is the way to go.
DarkLordofYamaha 5 months ago
@DarkLordofYamaha
True, the magnets may eventually lose their magnetic forces but there's also a shit-ton of friction going on here.
You'll lose all the energy to friction very very rapidly. In practise you'll never need to worry about the magnets.
Also as the ball gets attracted to each new magnet in line, it also get attracted by the previous magnet it just passed this adds up and soon the ball is as motionless as the like bar for this video.
WarriorofCathar 5 months ago 2
that looks like something from transformers...
RunePenguinNinja 5 months ago
@HauntedBeetlejuice What if it pushes the ball uphill, and the last part rolls down a ramp past the start position?
Makotoichio 5 months ago
@HauntedBeetlejuice That's right, for the time being at least, another force will have to be used to get past the start point.
I believe less is more.
ensile 5 months ago
@haunted beetlejuice: Why? Im not trying to be difficult but if you created a circle of magnets, faced all the north poles inwards, then rotated them 45 - 60 degrees, and put a cone in the centre, surely a magnetized ball would be continually pushed around by the magnets? Ok, so as an energy generator it would be impractical, but I see no problem with a combination of magnets and gravity being used to push a ball around indefinitely. No doubt others have tried this and failed, but why?
MotNguoiNuocNgoai 5 months ago
@MotNguoiNuocNgoai Sorry to interrupt your discussion. It wouldn't work, because there is still friction (between the ball and the air), so the ball would eventually come to a stop.
geordietoddy 5 months ago
@geordietoddy wrong. if the force produced overcomes or equals the dynamic force of friction, the net force is 0 meaning it will never stop. this includes air friction or drag. theoretically.
FutebolFanatico001 5 months ago
@MotNguoiNuocNgoai Why? A little difficulty known as conservation of energy.
flowerbower 5 months ago
@HauntedBeetlejuice
perpetual movement really is something utopic with magnets, but i think we can minimize energy loses with it, isnt it? so we cam make ``cheap`` movement, or more durable movement mechanisms.
Emanuelmartins69 6 months ago
I think part of the problem is the inability of the inventors to come up with practical uses that are easily demonstrated for the common man. People want to invest in a sure thing, they don't like risks. Big oil also doesn't like competition, they pay the media to paint alternative energy as "quack"
science or fraudulent endeavor. That just sucks major ASS for you and me, for now. Not much longer tho, I already feel a slight breeze on my cheek...the winds of change are starting to blow!
BrainCreep 6 months ago
All you need is a flux capacitor...
kn4cc 6 months ago 4
could that work on car wheels?
cangri48lbp 6 months ago
looks like a transformer eye
adweapons 7 months ago 3
Regarding the Hydrogen powered car..
The inventor was probably murdered. His death by explosion was a cover up.
This happens all the time.
leegenix 7 months ago
@leegenix
If ideas were really feasible and usable then someone would have them in place or would be getting them to market unless there is a technological hurdle.
RisingPhoenix120 6 months ago
@RisingPhoenix120 WE have technology that is far more advanced than what we are actually using. ITs all a matter of making money from it and being able to produce/market/sell it. WE will never have a technology designed and created just because. Socialist countries like japan have more resources to develop this kind of tech but even they dont get past a certain phase because its just not worth it.
mockhazzard 6 months ago
@RisingPhoenix120 Dude, there are solar panels 10x the strength of the ones we have currently. They won't get released for a long time because it means energy corporations won't make money from it. They also are already selling the current shit solar panels at a frequent rate so there is no need to bring in a new generation unless sales dip.
Monkeyfishism 6 months ago
make it longer!
academicroach 7 months ago
I can make a ball roll downhill without magnets. Impressive looking but i think gravity is more efficient.
saxplayingcompnerd 7 months ago 592
@saxplayingcompnerd If you think gravity is more efficient than magnets, get a tiny magnet and hold a metal ball under it. Watch that tiny magnet create a force greater than the gravity of the ENTIRE Earth.
penguin414rs 7 months ago
@saxplayingcompnerd
Electromagnetism is a thousand time more efficient than gravity. That's why you can hold something in the air with magnets
dadsa5 5 months ago
@saxplayingcompnerd: Well gravity is the weakest of the 4 forces. Think about it - a tiny magnet overcome the entire Earth's gravity by lifting up say a paperclip.
sutasman 4 months ago
@saxplayingcompnerd no, gravity is the weakest force in the universe. Gravity is governed by mass. the more massive an object is, the greater its gravitational pull. Think how big the earth is compared to a tiny magnet, gravity is so weak that a huge planet the size of earth can lose in a tug of war between the earth a paper clip and a little magnet. not only that but gravity is so weak that despite the earth's immense size, your body can jump in the air, walk around & run without being squashed
MGazT 3 months ago 6
@MGazT gravity is not a pull it's a push
ndt3575 3 months ago
@MGazT Then explain how it holds onto 81 billion tons of Moon. A magnet is NOT gravitational And as you said gravity is dictated by mass this includes the mass of the object. The grater the mass of the object the stronger the pull. A paperclip is very light its magnetic attraction supersedes its mass. Big shock. And Yeah gravity is guna be weak next to the forces that keep freaking MATTER together But it still gives a tiny ball of gas the power to hold onto 8 planets, and millions of asteroids.
gingergiggles 3 months ago
@MGazT You're thinking in the wrong frame of mind. Think of the paperclip is too small to contain enough gravity to be PUSHED towards Earth. Or that it hasn't enough mass to be affected by Earths 'gravitational pull'. Yet having free electrons (being metal) makes it highly magnetic.
539forgotten 3 months ago
@saxplayingcompnerd somehow this comment makes me think of Dr. House lol!
aliasskiller 2 months ago
@saxplayingcompnerd Actually it is kinda interesting because, the ball is moving up and down..but the force has to be replenished for it to keep going..
chadbaker666999 1 week ago
@saxplayingcompnerd You think gravity is more efficient? Consider the following: It takes all of the mass of the ENTIRE WORLD to make your ball roll down that hill. This only takes a few magnets.
vaughanify 1 week ago
@vaughanify BUT its free! :D
Lievcocijo 6 days ago
@vaughanify Gravity is effective over the entire width of the universe and is produced by all concentrations of matter. Electromagnetic fields...not so much. In either case, the question is, how do you harness this to provide "work"?
NorthForkFisherman 5 days ago
@vaughanify Um, a few magnets AND gravity...
Born1os3r 2 days ago
@saxplayingcompnerd but can you return it to its original position without an external force being applied to it?
OliRancidTen 5 days ago
Thanks for the work, an excellent example. Soon we will get this tecnology aplied widely, i promise
MrParombo 7 months ago
After the 1st ball starts, place a 2nd ball where the 1st one stops. When the 1st one comes around it will hit the 2nd one to begin its lap around and then it will circle around and hit the other one and keep going.
Jeffrosplace 9 months ago
@Jeffrosplace Eternal energy!! LETS POWER OUR CARS!!
sonyvegasfxvideos 8 months ago
@sonyvegasfxvideos i already thought this... i asked my physic teacher and he said that it wouldnt work, i dont remember why :(
ppcg25102 8 months ago
@Jeffrosplace if the first ball doesn't have enough energy to make it into the second loop, it won't have enough energy to transfer to the second ball to start it moving
plantera07 7 months ago
You are 1mm away from a perpetual motion machine. The hope was obviously to keep the ball moving continuously. It was a good attempt.
mvigilante 9 months ago
how long of work did you put into that
oscar68834 9 months ago
That is essentially the principal behid the large hadron collider if im not mistaken?
bigfatzut 10 months ago
@bigfatzut
Yup, that's it.... except that the large hadron collider doesn't suck...
queencitykids 9 months ago 186
@queencitykids Until they recreate the big bang and kill us all, then it will really suck.
Ikoris 3 months ago
@Ikoris ...Or if they manage to actually create a black hole in there. That would suck.... Everything around it! :p
Urzaran 3 months ago
put 2 balls in, on different ends of the track...
DonlineIam 10 months ago
1. it looks like part of megatron
2. it sounds like a transformer
I think that's a pretty successful build.
Questtechie 10 months ago 8
I notice that out of all these machines...none have used resonance at all. I wonder if it could be possible to have the ball ocsillate at the right frequency to "cut" through the intial force of entering a magnets field...so when it enters it flows with the current appropriately...but would be able to use the "outgoing" force of the maget on the way out? Would a sound wave work?
magicyte 10 months ago
at first i thought it was going to be a perpetual motion machine but then it stopped. why does it stop at the 1st magnet?
ishouldplayzelda 11 months ago 4
@ishouldplayzelda
Out of energy. In the end, it was a good run, actually. Lesser implementations rarely get the traveling particle back to where it started, looking in such good shape.
No machine has ever gotten beyond that point.
FateJHedgehog 10 months ago
@frithwks its kinda funny that your quoting physics whilst you fail to realise the fact that each magnet exerts a force of kinetic energy onto the ball, thus even if the ball was able to sustain a constant motion it isnt breaking the laws of thermodynamics due to the presence of the magnets which are giving the ball energy
lotussheath 11 months ago
Couldnt you tilt the device so the ball, on the way back, will keep going? Does it really have to be perfectly flat?
SirCumferance 11 months ago
its really funny. cause it didnt go in a complete circle
8Degtyarev8 1 year ago
cooooool
plantera07 1 year ago
Fucking Magnets, how do they work?
itoaragon 1 year ago 3
There is no such thing as infinite energy. Unless you can find some way to pull energy through wormholes and steal energy from other time-spaces, you can't have limitless energy.
Also, gov'ts don't want elec cars because they don't get as much money back from the people. Think of all the parts and gas that are taxed to no end.
mangakid19 1 year ago 2
That thing is scary...
sparkster7744 1 year ago
Why the ball stop ? You can't made a perpetual move ?
swpoIo 1 year ago
INFINITE ENERGY!!!
xrayguns 1 year ago
nossa.... tudo isso pra fazer a bola dar uma volta?
gustavo0lais 1 year ago
OK, so the magnet pulls the ball towards it, then you expect it to lose interest and let the ball roll away?
If it pulls it forwards, surely it will also pull it backwards.
Sooner or later (once around the track in this case) the ball will lose momentum
st0rmforce 1 year ago
What may I ask is keeping the ball from rolling any further?
If there is something impeding it?
Can you remove it?
raveman33 1 year ago
This is going to sound crazy but hey its youtube. I dreamt of this when I was a kid, I even sketched the idea. The concept is there.
HIRE2HACK 1 year ago
This is the future. One day every cinema will have one of these... and they will call it a gumball machine.
sini8080 1 year ago
Newtonian physics demonstrated
mojokiss 1 year ago
nice
ayalde 1 year ago
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henrykay01 1 year ago
@henrykay01 lolfail
Gameczar 1 year ago
cool but pretty damn useless
panzuman 1 year ago
@XxWhoopiexX
That was potential energy you gave that there ball.
jspade1019 1 year ago 3
perpetual motion is impossible atm. maybe forever. if that was truely perpetual then i think our energy crisis would be over
TheSugarEng 1 year ago
There are no known forms of shielding from magnetism, engineers simply conduct it away by using steel, check out FuelBan & Magnet Motors 1.wmv ........ videos 1 to 3, you can get an idea how to manipulate the steel to suite rotation. But it is not shielding , you are conducting forces away from a given location.
Thom in Scotland.
fuelban 1 year ago
If you put it there you gave it energy, which is fine, but the very fact that it is making noise means that the systems is losing energy along the way.
quidproquo2004 1 year ago
Hee hee, this makes me smile :)
TheKrimzonGuard 1 year ago
well, you can actually do the think on the video, IF you use a spetial material that doesn't lose energy when electrons travel throught. the problem is, these materials onli work on very low temperature. and you have to use a lot of N liquid.
1000PETORIA 1 year ago
@XxWhoopiexX exactly, you help the ball over the first hill. You just said it.
TakronRust 1 year ago
That took a lot of work. Keep it up. I'm here to say that when the first caveman was carving out a wheel all the others were grunting at him that it wouldn't work because the thing would be too heavy to push all over the place :)...we may have yet to tame the ox and discover the proverbial oil for this device but it's there.
srs876chief 1 year ago
Yeah, that's my point - as reistive forces will always be present, perperual acceleration would in fact be necessary to guarantee overall perpetual motion. While in theory you can "gently push a ball on a level surface and it rolls a mile" (TTKMKaizen's comment), in the real world there is ALWAYS a resistive force, even as tiny as radiation pressure in space.
TheLardbob 1 year ago
@rkyeun are you reffering to the gauss law?
yascumbag 1 year ago
@yascumbag
No, I was making a statement of logic, but I messed it up a bit. I used implication when I needed a relationship function.
I was commenting on DieTheDeath's spamtastic sigline.
If A is marriage and B is love and W(1,2) means that 1 is without 2, then
W(A,B)→W(B,A)
is a false statement.
rkyeun 1 year ago
@XxWhoopiexX you still put energy into its motion
Prodcake 1 year ago
Actually, perpetual motion is completely possible. Perpetual acceleration, however is not. Consider Newton's first law: (In the absence of a net force, the center of mass of a body either is at rest or moves at a constant velocity). Perpetual motion is a given as long as there are no resistive forces on the object. Perpetual motion using a device such as this is impossible, as perpetual acceleration (a constant force) would be required to overcome the forces of friction and air resistance.
TheLardbob 1 year ago 2
@TheLardbob
Except there's always a resistive force in the real world.
rkyeun 1 year ago
Yeah but then it stops!!
Nice try tho... Good effort.
Is there any computer software that can mimic magnitisim in a 3d enviroment?
187781jason 1 year ago
Now, I understand that perpetual motion, for the time being, is impossible. I also understand that you cannot get more energy out of something than you put in (eg you gently push a ball on a level surface and it rolls a mile)
But think for a second about this experiment, the ball is only elevated from the track a few millimeters and the guy gives it a little push yet it makes a full run of the track.
Can someone please enlighten me here?
TTKMKaizen 1 year ago
@TTKMKaizen I also forgot to mention that the force a magnet has on a magnetic object in relation to the distance between them is not a linear constant.
TTKMKaizen 1 year ago
@TTKMKaizen That`s because the field is curved normally; an expensive, modified
magnet could be made to produce a linear, inverse-square attraction.
AClarke2007 1 year ago
@TTKMKaizen That`s because you don`t know how Perpetual motion could work!
AClarke2007 1 year ago
@AClarke2007 Thats not exactly a helpful reply :/
TTKMKaizen 1 year ago
@TTKMKaizen It may be more helpfull for you to know that Perpetual Motion does exist!
AClarke2007 1 year ago
@AClarke2007 Orly? Can you send me the link to the video?
TTKMKaizen 1 year ago
@AClarke2007
And nobody else does either.
rkyeun 1 year ago
very smart
the1westside 1 year ago
realyt cool but can you adjusted so it can be perpetual infinite round and around
01WALKMAN01 1 year ago
I think if he could do that, he would save the world...
makihikorain 1 year ago
Ever heard of friction?
limeroundup 1 year ago
i dont know why the hell people are rating this down, its a good comment!
NovaN0va 1 year ago
NICE, Gravity assisted Ball-Bearing falling and then Magnetized Ball-Bearing on the up slope...just watch that ball bounce. Please may I use it in ANY Casino Legally :)) Damn, I just lost my Money again!
marshmellafella 1 year ago
Today already, we could drive our cars by water or other technologies, but some nice people don't want it!
XxWhoopiexX 2 years ago 148
@XxWhoopiexX I read that a company in Japan has come out with a water powered car.
LionCome 1 year ago
@LionCome
Please search for "Daniel Dingel" via Youtube and Google. He had made the best water car worldwide.
XxWhoopiexX 1 year ago
@XxWhoopiexX thanks
LionCome 1 year ago
@XxWhoopiexX Just looked at him - not on youtube - too many cranks, but I read several news stories about him and his hydrogen car. The Philipine government have declared it a hoax, and also dingel was found guilty of fraud for misappropriating $410,000 which was supposed to help bring his idea to market.
who exactly would benefit from suppressing such ideas anyway? most countries are getting crippling debts from buying oil, and there is a war going on to secure rights to what is left of it!
gnorty 1 year ago 4
@LionCome well, actually its the oposite, they create watter with H and O. these cars already exist, i have seen them, the problem is stocking the H, if you let a little O near it, there is a huge explosion.
1000PETORIA 1 year ago
@LionCome
great.....so now they can turn water into oil!
thats a fail...
fipfapfallywap 1 year ago
@XxWhoopiexX very true a man was killed and all his research burned and destroyed (you cant get rid of a car by burning it) HYDROGEN POWER LEARN IT!!!!!!!!!!!! not a fuel tank full of hydro... a tank full of water and an engine that splits the molecules
most people think youd be sitting on a bomb NOT TRUE!!!!
skilletfan1415up 7 months ago
@skilletfan1415up "An engine that splits the molecules". Two ways: you heat the water to 6000 ºC (11000 F) or you use electricity...
omarnug 7 months ago
@XxWhoopiexX wanting or not we will drive with water :).
LucaTurilli89 7 months ago
@XxWhoopiexX main reason is some nice ppl wish make soem money on oil.
shadownoob83 6 months ago
The point from this video is: Finally the ball stopped, SEG is a new *perpetual motion machine*. Thank you for the video.
sinoalpha 2 years ago 3
what is your point?
1chrisdaman1 2 years ago
keep looking on youtube, you'll see the device described..
walter0bz 2 years ago
great job! don't pay attenetion to the skeptics. this is by far the best depiction of the "Vortex Theory" i have seen anywhere. kudos to you on breaking the law of conservation of energy as surely any energy expended to make or view this vid is rendered forever useless. thank you.
peacehorn 2 years ago
the permanent magnets are full of energy that is being used to move the ball bearing - conservation of energy still holds
imh0 2 years ago 4
imh0, look up sarcasm.
peacehorn 2 years ago
but they still have the energy after the demo
MrProgrampro 2 years ago
the magnets arn't losing energy, otherwise magnets would run out of pulling force
zantrua 2 years ago
They do. Even peranent magnets run out of energy. Every time a magnet comes close to another magent (which is always because of magno-gravitational fields), the atoms are moved into a sluightly different pattern. The more the pattern changes, the weaker the magnet.
mwhite112393 2 years ago 5
but this energy loss is negligible in the scale of energys needed to get the ball arround
zantrua 2 years ago
Very true, although I think that the only way that one would be able to make this device work would be to employ the use of some complex network of electromagnets that dynamically change polarity with the passing of the ball.
mwhite112393 2 years ago
Just thought of something; what if you made the first magnet fairl weak and slowly progress to a very powerful magnet at the end? The powerful magnet might be able to push the ball around to the weak magnet, which would then accelerate the ball again to the strong magnet. Would this work theoretically?
mwhite112393 2 years ago
no ,the same could be accomplished by distance. metal is attracted to a magnet
although i did show a repulsion effect through possible back Emf one time
i will post a video
datzfast 2 years ago
a problem with magnetics is that eventually they will all come to share an equal amount of pull after sitting close to each other over time(they will all eventually even out with each other).
now if you could say, isolate the magnets from each other but still keep the field going.....then you might well have something interesting.
xeronicus 2 years ago
The magnets are positioned such that they roughly cancel out the gravitational force acting on the ball. If you give the ball a little bit of a push it will roll up the magnets and momentum will carry it over the edge.
If you designed the track extremely carefully, with nice gentle slopes, it is in principle possible to get the ball bearing to roll around with as little friction as a ball bearing on a flat circular steel track.
There is no overunity anything going on here.
soylentgreenb 2 years ago 2
a pernament magnet will last about 3 hundred years befor loosing half strength
even inside a spinning eletrical motor in use today so what is your point? did you think is was going to discharge like your battery.
datzfast 2 years ago 2
They lose their energy when the ball gets deeper in their magnetic field, and get it back when the ball gets further away from their magnetic field.
anonimystro12345 2 years ago
have you tried using electromagnets to accelerata a toroidal superfluid ferrous suspension up to relativistic velocity?
walter0bz 2 years ago
when you approach the ball to the magnet, you have to keep it back , basically giving and storing some potential energy in form of magnetic field "stress". When you release the ball , the energy stored will be given up as motion till ....whatever will happen ...and stay at minimum until you stick your fingers again into the stuff ...or whatever is that extraterrestrial technology based perpetuum mobile machine... :-) Anyway its a nice piece of mechanical sculpture !
nfexp 2 years ago 2
One small step to the railgun...
TheGustaveOon 2 years ago 16
do you remember the energy your finger exerted on the ball?
micrisc 2 years ago 86
@micrisc His finger energy can't make the ball move that fast.
SuperSharpboy 1 year ago
@micrisc that's the only thing that ur allowed to use. and you can only push it once
randomacountboy 9 months ago
One day, that ball is gonna roll right on past the first magnet and keep on going..
...of course, your victory will be short lived, as the universe will suddenly implode upon itself, now that physics are gone.
konatsukuonji 2 years ago 136
@konatsukuonji Are those the same "laws" of physics that once had Galileo Galilei placed under house arrest for saying the earth was round? Or maybe the kind that said AC electricity was pointless and dangerous? Take care not to fall in with the group of naysayers that the world ends up laughing at for all eternity. Surely then it will be your ego that implodes, and not the Universe, however similar in size they might be
jimmytea1 1 year ago
@jimmytea1 I think you misunderstand: it was Galileo's great ability to be rational and scientific that enabled him to discover the things not accepted by the insistence-over-fact crowd (that's you). Physics enabled Galileo, they did not hinder him.
I'm afraid my ego will be just fine. Since science demands no involvement of ego, and I would be glad to expand my understanding of the universe, even if contradictory to my current understanding. =) But that requires evidence, not wishes.
konatsukuonji 1 year ago
@konatsukuonji. True. What then of Boson particles, which violated accepted thinking that no two particles could occupy the same space, at the same time? Philosophically, evidence of Boson particles was not needed for them to exist, they always were; mostly we seek "evidence" to help us understand what we already observe. Sneering at the posters experiment, likening it to the implosion of the universe, to me includes a rather large amount of ego, little science, and a distinct lack of courtesy
jimmytea1 1 year ago
@jimmytea1 I'm sorry that you misunderstood me yet again.
True science is based on observation and testing. Over-unity "science" is based on insistence, personal attacks (against my ego, no less), and more insistence.
Once someone creates a perpetual energy device that actually works, then please feel free to haw haw at me about how wrong I was. IN FACT I WILL JOIN YOU. And hell, I'll be excited about the discovery!
Until then, please stop using bosons to try and justify throwing out physics.
konatsukuonji 1 year ago
I too am sorry that we misunderstand one another. I was under the impression that the poster was in fact "observing and testing", perhaps not achieving PE, but trying none the less. As for using Bosons to illustrate my point, that is no justification for "throwing out physics" as you so eloquently put it, in fact quite the opposite. It shows us how limited our understanding of our universe can be at any one time, and that no one can ever be 100% sure that something is "impossible". EOD.
jimmytea1 1 year ago
@jimmytea1 I suppose I have to concede that we can never really be 100% sure about anything.. but still, you're not likely to tie yourself to the ground and tell people "laugh at me now, but one day this gravity thing will be proven wrong and then you'll all look like idiots!"
The real irk with these wankel "motors" is that they are a fantastic physical representation of entropy, but the people that build them are completely oblivious to that.
konatsukuonji 1 year ago
cool... but that many views for a rolling ball?
qwertyg33ks 2 years ago
Perfect...short and sweet...why can't other inventors use your example when showing their device.
AccuracyMarked 2 years ago
you made all that to watch a ball go in a circle?
wow
jessekarate08 2 years ago 83
@jessekarate08: It's a demonstration of controlled magnetic force.
I'd have to see a diagram/the actual thing to explain it to you fully.
Natesmodelrailroad 1 year ago
nice try, but too obvious to me :)
manhill 2 years ago
You may be confusing kinetic and potential energy here.
Magnets do run out of "energy" and then you re-magnetize them.
tigerbody69 2 years ago
wow, and the point in that was?
chillz27 2 years ago 2
Actually, a coiled metal spring does have a