1920 The year the Arabs discovered Palestine (part 1)

[krimlin85]

hehe , do you want to change the history ?! Palestine was always holy land for Arabs & Muslims for 1500 year

[AleesatheIsraeli]

@krimlin85 3,000 for jews

[krimlin85]

@AleesatheIsraeli yes , but the Original Jews (Sons Of Israel) converted to the new Religion ( Christianity ) & later to Islam :)

[AleesatheIsraeli]

@krimlin85 stop doing drugs muslim

[wildlettuce]

@krimlin85 think of it this way - tomorrow, a new religion is formed, we'll call it mooshoo.

mooshoo accepts all previous islamic, jewish and christian profits but introduces a new one (Kevin). Kevin preached for gambling and ascended from the Belagio casino on a white hummer.

mooshoo then claims that mecca, jerusalem and las-vegas are the holiest cities - as their prophets (moses, jesus, muhammad and kevin) walked, talked and ascended from them.

who owns mecca/las-vegas in 1,500 years?

[krimlin85]

@wildlettuce Muslims didn't attack Palestine because its a holy-land , they attacked it as part of Byzantium , & Byzantium started the war against Muslims , so, Muslims just ruled Palestine & later its people converted to Islam ... . so , mecca/las-vegas people own their cities & they decide what a religion they follow, if they convert to Mooshoo then its mooshoo cities :).

[wildlettuce]

@krimlin85 right, muslims (and only muslims) have a justification for expansionist conquests.

lets not forget that 500 years ago the arabs lost the region to the ottomans (turks)..

by your (simplistic) logic:

- the people of Israel own their cities and land (thus palestinians have no rights to it)

- all israel has to do is forcefully convert all palestinians to judaism, and it will immediately become jewish land.

[krimlin85]

@wildlettuce - Muslims didn't force the owners of that region to convert to Islam ... they converted to Islam by themselves , you can read the old christians resources about the dealing with muslims in palestine .

- Turks didn't take palestine from arabs , arabs peoples called turks leaders to Rule palestine ... & under turks governance it was arabic region .( Ottomans empire wasn't Turkish , it was Islamic , & turks was part of it with arabs & kurds & caucasian ..etc )

[Intelwethink4u]

There will not be peace until all Jews, Christians, and infidels are killed or removed from Israel and the world, and Islam is world-wide. Ask a practicing Muslim. The so-called moderate Muslims are not practicing Muslims, in that they do not enforce or observe the full measure of the Hadiths of Mohamed and the Quran. The truest form of Islam is the brand of Islam found in Saudi Arabia/ Arabia, the birth place of Mohamed. This form of Islam is known all over the world, if you know what I mean.

[Intelwethink4u]

Palestine has always been a geographic area, not a people. Palestine was thus named by the Romans, it was out of spite for the Jews that the Romans did this. Various conflicts fighting the Romans and their occupation caused bitterness against Jews on behalf of the Romans. The Palestinian issue is about the system of Islam against jews (Islam is more than just a religion), Islam wants back what it has conquered. Under the doctrines of Islam any land conquered by Islam is their forever.

[nmgscp]

I think that during the Crusades and before, in the middle ages, the Arabs had already discovered Palestine. And those many of those "Arabs" in Palestine were actually Jews who converted 1st to Christianity and later, most of them, to Islam. So, in a large part, Palestinians end up to be actually converted Jews.

[MUDSHARK111]

@midleground "jesus was 100% jewish" the fucking jews are not 100% jewish what ever the hell being 100% jewish means.the Jews and Arabs have more in common with each other, genetically than with any other pepole.is short you cant prove a damn thing 100%

[ZviJ1]

@MUDSHARK111 According to well-conducted studies the Jews have more in common genetically with the curds and Armenians than with the Arabs. Deal with it.

[MUDSHARK111]

@ZviJ1 there are "well-conducted studies" supporting what i said ,and also pointing out the Kurds are are closely related to Arabs themselves .but its beside the point. there is no such thing as 100% Jewish. Jews along with most of the word and including my self are a mongrels, as it should be much as Jews have tried to maintain there purity and much as that might upset you .there's no getting away from the fact .now you deal with it .

[ZviJ1]

@MUDSHARK111 It doesn't upset me since I don't define Jewishness along racial & genetic lines like u. I don't even define it necessarily the Ortho way.To me the Qaraite (Scriptural) & Reform & Orthodox criteria are all fine 4 establishing one's Jewishness.

But u're entitled to practice ur right to be wrong on this (to decide Jewishness,lack thereof or "partial Jewishness" by genetic and/or racial lines).

Judaism is even more a nation than a religion,which explains why athiests born to secular

[ZviJ1]

@MUDSHARK111 ( continued ) Jews can be Jewish.

[freethequeen]

zionist rubbish

[wildlettuce]

@OrthodoxDarwinist it is irrelevant how big israel was. kuwait and qatar are quite small - shall we cancel them?

the reality is that out of all the nations/peoples/identities that existed 3,000 years ago, the only one that survived is israel - there are no babylonians around, no assyrians, no pharaohs, no philistines, no canaanites.

and no, palestine is not philistine - if palestinians were philistines (invading sea people), they would claim the greek islands as their historic homeland.

[OrthodoxDarwinist]

@wildlettuce

No, the REALITY is that the ONLY people to be living in that land in the vast majority for the past few millenia are the Palesatinian Arabs.

That's undisputed fact you moron.

[wildlettuce]

@OrthodoxDarwinist and yet, there is no such thing as palestinian.

some arabs have been there since their occupation of Syria.. notice how the word 'occupation' describes the way they got 'ownership' over the land.

i'm pragmatic, i dont believe anyone really 'owns' or 'has right' to a land. land changes hands and the political map of the world is in constant flux. countries only exist because they can defend themselves.

the arabs havent ruled this land for 500 years, now someone else has it.

[OrthodoxDarwinist]

Who are the ONLY people to have lived in that land in the vast majority for as long as we know?

The Palestinian Arabs.

Who were only 1% of the population in 1900?

The Jewish people

Therefore it is absolutely absurd to allow this 1% to ethnically cleanse the other 99% just because they think they're ethnically superior.

It's racist sadists like you who allow this to occur.

And YES the Arabs HAVE ruled that land for the past 500 years, AND MORE.

[wildlettuce]

@OrthodoxDarwinist what was the arab population in 'palestine' before the arab occupation? 0%. what are you trying to say?

yes, some arabs have a long list of ancestors who have been squatting in jerusalem, jericho, nablus, hebron for centuries... but there are also many 'palestinian arabs' who have no history in the region.. who cares.

in the last 500 years, the ottomans (turks) were the ruling force, not arabs.

countries only exist because they defend themselves, not by ancestral right.

[wildlettuce]

@OrthodoxDarwinist if there was never 'arab occupation', what are the arabs doing in egypt?

maybe you're trying to tell us that egypt has always been arab? perhaps you think the pharaohs were arabs too?

dont put words in my mouth - i never suggested they're not humans; attacking a straw man is a very weak argument strategy - it only exposes your lack of capacity for a reasonable argument.

[OrthodoxDarwinist]

@wildlettuce

Because what we know today as the Egyptian Arabs have been living there for thousands of years you retard.

The only reason you are attempting to deligitimize the fact that that whole area of the Levant has been occupied by the Arabs for thousands of years, is because you want to legitimize the wholesale ethnic cleansing of millions of indigenous Palestinians by sickeningly racist Zionist Jews because they were seen as an inferior ethnicity.

You are no better than a Nazi.

[wildlettuce]

@OrthodoxDarwinist if they have been living there for thousands of years - how come they know NOTHING about their history? if it wasnt for the french, the arabs wouldnt even understand what hieroglyphs mean. israelis still read/write hebrew.

i'm not trying to "deligitimize the fact that .. Levant has been occupied by the Arabs", on the contrary - i'm saying is that israels presence is no worse than the ARAB OCCUPATION of that land.. if you dont like it, roll back the arab occupation first.

[wildlettuce]

@OrthodoxDarwinist keep talking about races, inferiority and ethnicities and then call me a nazi. charming - you've almost perfected turnspeak.

go to the library and brush up on your ignorance.

[OrthodoxDarwinist]

@wildlettuce

How can you believe that the ethnic cleansing of millions of indigenous Palestinians merely because they're seen as an inferior ethnicity, and not be racist?

You are IDENTICAL in theory to a Nazi. You have sold into this sickening idea of ethnic self-worship and Jewish ethnic supremacy within Zionism, and so you have no qualms when other people you see as innately infeiror are ethnically cleansed, and forced into perpetual poverty, because YOU'RE A RACIST.

[wildlettuce]

@OrthodoxDarwinist you dont even know me, yet you've already concluded that i'm jewish and therefore a self-worshipping supremacist... that makes you the racist, not me.

its pretty funny to see you ignorant fascists squirm when confronted with facts and logical arguments. when all else fails you personally attack your counterpart.. pathetic and funny at the same time.

[nicco47]

@wildlettuce You are known.You are a self worshiping supremacist,a fascist even with your own people,larcenist of the lands of others and destroyer of it's crops,thief of it's waters,jailer of children,worshiper of money & power robbing your own,liar & traitor of the Jewish people,hiding,denying history,race,& forfathers as those who deny the Holocaust,you have cheated your children of their Peace,you are a pox on humanity,your hands are covered in blood.Karma awaits...You are a zionist.

[wildlettuce]

@nicco47 took you a month to come up with more racist generalizations.. i'm almost impressed.

you need not wait for karma, hate is already consuming you.

[larrybee1000]

@nicco47 garbled nonsense.

[larrybee1000]

@OrthodoxDarwinist "Millions of indigenous Palestinians"? Show me your sources please - where do you dredge up such rubbish.

[nicco47]

@OrthodoxDarwinist In fact the Jewish were in power for only 80 years at the time of Soloman.

[larrybee1000]

@nicco47 what are you talking about? Your ignorance is astounding.

[nicco47]

@OrthodoxDarwinist Correct..Jewish control in Palestine lasted for only 80 years at the time of Soloman...but the zionsts are deniers and congenital liars (amongst their other traits) and keep trying to rewrite history...as stated by the finest Jewish scholars.

[gghostd]

This recent report on the BBC exposes videos like this one as false Israeli/Zionist propaganda-based lies --> bbc.co.uk / news / world-middle-east-13583055

[MsCuriousCat]

I believe Jesus was half Jew and half Arab. Palestinians are half Jews and half Arabs, this I believe one of the reasons why Isralis want to kill them and they'll tell you they killed Jesus as well today. Israelis dont like Christians, they use Americans to fight their wars because they brain wash the Americans to believe it is their duty to die for them and this is way America will always be in wars. Israel today think Americans are STUPID and there's a video about it as well look it up.

[gamboni100]

@MsCuriousCat what a lot of bullshit american or anyone else never faught israel wars don't lie jesus wasn't palestian because there were nopalestianin in hte time it seems you believe all the lies the palstian tell you

[degen83]

@MsCuriousCat 100% false. Israel fights her own wars, and has defeated the Arabs numerous times in war.

[questcheck]

Arabs in 1920 accepted Jewish state. Faisel, the Arab leader of the villagers in British Mandate Palestine:."We Arabs... look with the deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement. Our deputation here in Paris is fully acquainted with the proposals submitted yesterday by the Zionist Organisation to the Peace Conference, and we regard them as moderate and proper. We will do our best, in so far as we are concerned, to help them through; we will wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home..."

[Optimus7777]

what about the Arab/Muslim-Nazi co-operation during WW2?... seems to be missing from this video as it skips right to after the war. the Mufti of Jerusalem was one of the most avid supporters of Hitler, and so were many Muslims who volunteered to the Nazi army.

[SarahShlomo]

@Optimus7777

don't forget the bestseller of "mein kampf" by hitler in the arabic states; nowadays, which has been translated in arabic....

it is used as textbook in arabic schools!

[glanoy66]

@Optimus7777 Please, look for the article "Demography and Geography in the Land of Israel"

So you will know who are the Palestinians.

When and why they come to Israel.

And also, learn about the great injustice That is done to the Jewish people these days.

[wsimon98]

at 3:12 did that guy say zionist and arab leaders could sit together in peace? uh....okay....

[perazh]

The population of the Jews before 1919 was 3% of the population of the area ad they were not Khazar.

[perazh]

Jews have been in exile by the cammand of G-d and cursed to have their state.

Remember the attacks of Babilonians and Romans after building the state for Jews!

Wait for the new one.

[jpqnlyv1]

btw way before 1948 even 100 years earlier there was a majority of jewish people in jerusalem

[jpqnlyv1]

LOL...discovered palestine.. the arabs first major terror act was in 1920. and it was against.. jewish people.

[pipmaker1]

great propaganda movie.......

[eyadooooo]

non-scene ... palestine had cannaanites living in ... haifa yafa tall-arrabee jerusalim ext ext ... then bretain gave jews the right to shipp into palestine exactly like they did with Australia and then jews starting killing palestinians claiming that there is nothing called Palestinians while the culture and the cities are palestinian cities afterwards they kicked palestinians to nearer countries and build their illegal state! i say to zionists get back on your ships and leave the country...

[samuils]

@eyadooooo LOL wow your historical knowledge is so absent its just funny, LOL

[SupositoryRepository]

If this bullshit is true, then why did Daoud al Issa first publish the Palestinian nationalist newspaper Filistin in 1914?

I won't give the uploader nor the creator of this video the benefit of the doubt, they deliberately lie about the Palestinian people about everything, trying to de-legitimize them and even deny their very existence (as Golda Meir famously did.)

[JBGodzilla]

There was no such place called "Palestine" in the Ottoman empire. There is no TURKISH map with the name "Palestine" on it. Only Western or European maps had that name. The name "Palestine" was brought back with the British victory over the Ottoman empire. The Arabs began to adopt this identity for themselves strictly in opposition to the Zionists. Before that, they mostly considered themselves either as simply "Arabs" or as residents of Al Shams (southern Syria).

[sopmodm4]

/watch?v=YcL31YqZaQQ

[sopmodm4]

It's this simple, if the Jews are immigrants and the Palestinians are natives(which they in reality are not) it boils down to this. When Blacks get to elect their own president in the USA and enforce a slew of laws against whites,conservatives and rednecks does that mean they get to call all non-whites thieves and magically create White-a-stine and say the brown people stole their country? It was illegal for non-whites to vote not so long ago so that was "Legal"? Get some perspective

[sopmodm4]

No, it means they are no longer the majority in a democratic state and that all of the Militia Terrorists and KKK goons need to be dealt with if they decide to terrorize the legitimate majority and it's infrastructure. Jews outnumber Arabs in the Levant but this could change in another 20 years but the Arabs are too short sighted to see it and separated themselves from their support which was mostly from Israelis.1 in 3 small business owners in 90's Israel+Territories was Arab with Jew patrons

[sopmodm4]

The highest level of living wage employment, the lowest rate of infant mortality, the highest rate of small business ownership and the highest per capita graduation from post secondary school for people calling themselves "Palestinians" today occurred under Israeli occupation during the first Netanyahu regime. 70% of the PA's food, water, electricty and advanced medical care are provided free of charge by the state of Israel. No Arab nation cares enough to feed them anything but semtex and hate

[genYprogressive]

As far as a solution goes, all the Palestinians are asking for is the land that they alredy leagally own (the 67 borders) and East Jerusalem, that is not unreasonoble.

[sopmodm4]

Why not the 1922 borders? Why not the Oslo accords? It's all arbitrary and you calling it "Legal" does not change the fact that these people want to destroy Israel and kill Jews and live in apartments in Tel Aviv. They are fine with democracy as long as they are the majority but then they become Nationalistic Rednecks the minute they know they will be outvoted? They fled to Jordan and were afraid to return, Israelis invited them back in fact. Israeli Arab's say Palestine is a scam don't they?

[genYprogressive]

1. In 2004 World Court ruled 14-1 that the wall and the settlements are illegal under international law. Israel has no rights to any of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. This issue is no longer even debatable.

2. You you say that they want to destroy Israel and this is based on the "PLO Phase Plan." Rational people don't know weather to laugh or cry at this statement.

How is it even possable for a small force armed with 45 year old AK-47s to destroy a military superpower?

[sopmodm4]

The superpower cannot use military might to defend it's playgrounds, hospitals,houses of worship, farms is they cannot keep them out. Who even legitimized the 67 borders? Jordan invaded and go their asses kicked and the Jews didn't annex it. Any other nations from Greece to France to China to Russian and even the USA has permanently annexed any land taken in a similar defensive military success. Stop holding Israel to a higher standard than your own(or any other country). "Illegal" my ass.

[jimbaba16]

@sopmodm4 Is Iraq USA now? Is Afghanistan the USA now? If Jordan was succesful in invading Israel then the finger would be pointed at Jordan, but inreality Israel Was created out of Terrorism, and Ethnic Cleasning, so the arabs nieghbours finaly helped the Palestinians after 10+ years of Jewish Militia Terrorim(Irgun,Stern gang) it is ILLEGAL

[genYprogressive]

@sopmodm4 Yes the U.S. Mexico war was a unjust war that was a big land grab, but at least president Polk compensated Mexico for sealing there land. When is Israel going to pay the billions of compensation that they owe because Israel started the 67 war.

Yes I hate the leadership of my country, Hosni Mubaric played a role in last years Gaza Massacure by closing the borders. All you have to do is look at a population graph from those years to see that half are not Egyptian.

[djzacmaniac]

@genYprogressive Palestinians have no language or culture, they have never had an autonomous state named Palestine. That is the point. You can't be compensated for what you never had.

[genYprogressive]

@djzacmaniac They do have a culture. 750k were driven from their homes in 1948, that is something that they did have. All of the stuff here is from Joan Peters book that has been discredited.

[djzacmaniac]

@genYprogressive They lived and identified as Arabs. There are numerous Arab countries they can go to if they so choose. The Arabs began to adopt this identity for themselves strictly in opposition to the Zionists. Before that, they mostly considered themselves either as simply "Arabs" or as residents of Al Shams (southern Syria).The Jews WERE forced out, THOUSANDS of years ago. There is no other Jewish nation.

[genYprogressive]

@djzacmaniac This claim about Jews returning to their homeland is dishonest. The Ashekenazi Zionists that came there have very little connection to the Ancient Hebrews. DNA tests that anybody can look at online show that 80-90% of Ashekenazi Jews are not Semetic. They were just white people of the Hebrew Faith. It would be like if the 54 million Chiniese Muslums all moved to Saudi Arabia and kicked out the people living there and said that they are returning to their homeland.

[sopmodm4]

@genYprogressive You must get your information from Stormfront or other Neo-Nazi sights. Try looking up some university studies where exactly the opposite is concluded.Interestingly though the origins of the J1 Haplotype Arabs is the Arabian Peninsula and the J2 Haplotype originated in Northern Syria within a thousand of so years of each other yet the J1 Haplotype only spread across the entire middle east after Islamic conquest while the J2 group only remained prevalent in Syria and ISRAEL

[sopmodm4]

@sopmodm4 Even the majority of European Jews have pre-islamic ME paternal ancestry(matrilineal descent is a fairly recent custom). In fact it wasn't until the invasion of the Sassanids that J2 ceased to be the dominant haplotype in Judea and Samaria according to fossil DNA studies. You argument isn't merely a deviation from the truth but a complete racist fabrication and you should take anything you read on Jew Bashing sites and check it with authentic academic sources so you don't look foolish

[genYprogressive]

@sopmodm4 No you are just trying to throw in a non issue. I didn't even know who or what Stormfront was. I am not disputing what you say about those groups remaining in Syria and Israel. What I was talking about is the Ashekenazi who came there in the 20th century had very little connection to the ancient hebrews. They were just white people of the Hebrew Faith. Theodore Herzel was not even Jewish.

[sopmodm4]

The solution is to dissolve the Knesset and PA and let them all have one big national election and let that settle it forever but they proved at Oslo that being 11% of the population and being offered 48% of the land was not enough for their aspirations because THEY WANT IT ALL. Even if their grandparents came from Egypt(like Arafat) and never knew Al-Quds before 1922. Separation of the PA was an engineered crisis. Their jobs, welfare, education, etc came from Jews.Hamas steals their aid to sell

[genYprogressive]

3. You are misrepresenting the peace process by saying THEY WANT IT ALL, and Arafat and the PLO rejected peace.

What does the record show? In Camp David and Tabba under every issue raised all of the concessions came from the Palestinians. They were willing to let Israel keep 60% of the settlers and 80% of the settlements. They were willing to compromise on East Jerusalem, and they were willing to give up on the right of returne. Israel made no concessions.

[sopmodm4]

They were still feeling their way through the identity crisis left over from Black September. Too many people remembered that the entirety of Palestinian Nationalist Leadership had tried to overthrow Jordan(rightfully so I might add) and called Jordan a stolen Palestinian state. It took the following decade to brainwash enough people and hope that apathetic old people forgot the words of the Palestinian leaders themselves to make the kinds of demands they make today. World Court=Euro/Arab Court

[genYprogressive]

@sopmodm4 Why not the 1922 borders you ask? I really hope that you were joking. There are a few extreamist Zionists that claim that the borders of the 1922 Churchill White Paper are stolen property form the Jews. If a Palestinian claimed that there land is the 1939 White Paper they would get laughed out of the room and shown the door. They have as much rights to the 22 borders as the Palestinans do the 39 borders and that is being really generous to the Israelis.

[sopmodm4]

@genYprogressive I can't believe I didn't properly respond to this but.... JORDAN HAD "LEGAL" POSSESSION OF EAST JERUSALEM PRE-1967! No the Palestinians who have never had control of East Jerusalem.The Ottomans limited the number of Arabs allowed to be permanent residents within Jerusalem.Legal ownership of Jerusalem never belong to Arabs in 400 years!All ownership documents in the Levant where only "Legal" if the Ottomans issued them. Arab from documents from that time period are fool-stuffing

[genYprogressive]

@sopmodm4 East Jerusalem Belongs to Palestine. That is a controversity that is the law.The World Court alredy rulled on this back in 2004. BTW your claim that Jordan taking that land was illeagal is true. I am not disputing that. Israel taking the extra 22% was illegal as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[genYprogressive]

The Zionists leagally owned only 6% of the land under the 47 Partition Plan.

Saying that that alone attracted this big of a migration is a joke.

[sopmodm4]

not a joke.6% of ownership included 80% of the arable land in the Levant and the first thing ther Zionists did was to IRRIGATE and the amount of arable land, habitable towns with infrastructure brought in by the Zionists increased 400% from 1922-1948. Today African and Asian workers with guest worker visas are harvesting crops on land that Jews reclaimed from the desert almost a century ago. These jobs used to be held by Arabs before the separation from Israel and Arabs say "they took our land"?

[genYprogressive]

Are you trying to use the many times debunked myth that Joan Peters says in her book From Time Immemorial that Palestine was a empty wasteland before the Zionists arrived?

Even Pro-Israel Pro-Zionist historians say that this is bullshit.

[sopmodm4]

#1 Joan Peters is selling something(I am not) #2 the land was not empty at all, it had a population of Turks, Arabs, Jews, Armenians and Europeans that were meticulously counted by the Ottoman government. Historical accounts by Arab, British, Turkish and Syrian sources all comment on the population being limited to the amount of arable land. Jews increased the amount by 400% and soon outnumbered the Arabs. In the 1920s Haj Amin al Husseini tried to abate this trend by inviting foreign Arabs,fact

[genYprogressive]

Israels most well known historian Benny Morris has stated that in the 1890s that all the land was fully developed for agriculture and the only change that the Zionist settlers made was urbanizing rural land. He cites the ZIonist Intellectual Ahad Ha'am from 1891, who went aginst the phillosophy of the Labor Zioninists and favored Jewish/Arab collaboration.

[sopmodm4]

Benny Morris is not Israel's most "well known historian" by a long shot and even Arab sources detail the miracles of Zionist Agriculture on Israel.

you have a viewpoint that you claw desperately to find supporting bullshit evidence for(most of it generated in the last 20 years) but as they say "pictures don't lie" and the photographic record is clear on Canaan's agricultural prospects prior to Zionist settlement. As long ago as Napoleon the condition of the land and it's low population are fact

[genYprogressive]

I have seen 19th century pictures that show both.

This is what Ahad Ha'am who lived there 3 years said in 1891

"We abroad are use to believe that Eritz Yisrael is now almost totally desolate, a desert that is now sowed....But in truth that is not the case. Only rocks and stony mountans are not cultivated" (Righteous Victoms, p. 42)

No quote mining, nothing out of context. Ha'am wrote extensevly about this.

[sopmodm4]

If you are really Egyptian then you know full well that more than half of today's so called "Palestinians" immigrated to Israel from Egypt in the 1920s and many even have Egyptian names. If you care so much you should open the border with Gaza instead of building a wall and shooting any "Palestinian" who tries to get out of Gaza! You should know better, seriously. Who is the #1 violent criminal element in Egypt today? Tell me honestly..

[jimbaba16]

@sopmodm4 Sopmodm4 I am Egyptian with a Palestinian Background, because of my Grandmother that is Palestinian, Immigration... Are you forgetting about the Aliyas? Thew Jewish immigration from Europe? Yemen etc.

whos 'you'? since when have us the people have power? :S Not even in 'demoractic' countries do we have such power.

[sopmodm4]

@jimbaba16 Your people haven't been the majority for a lifetime of anyone who is alive today but persist in demanding that the majority bow to your will via force rather than vote in Israeli elections like the other million or so Arabs who don't want anything to do with Hamas or Fatah.

[jimbaba16]

@sopmodm4 Sopmodm4 have you looked at the population during the early 1900's? The arabs approximatly made 80%+ of the British Mandate of Palestine...i do not want Hamas you ignorant person. The Majority of the people voted HAMAS in a DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS!!!! IT HAS BEEN DONE AND THEY HAVE VOTED GET OVER IT THEY VOTED IN HAMAS.

[sopmodm4]

@jimbaba16,trying to create a "State within a State" is preposterous. Basing it on an identity that changes it's claims and supposed articles of legitimacy is even more rediculous. Saying your mom was from Palestine is like someone from Kansas saying their mom is from Missouri and expecting Missouri to be dissolved.Arabs could have peacefully become the majority in the Knesset in a few decades via birthrate alone but chose violence instead?

[jimbaba16]

@sopmodm4 what are you talking about good sir?

Creating a state within a state? Israel was never a state accept for 5000 years ago...

Palestine ahs been the name for the region for a LONG time, just like Egypt has had their name for that LONG. Arabs were the Majority of Palestine lol, until the mass immigration from Europe.

[djzacmaniac]

@jimbaba16 The Southwest is a region too, in America. This does make it a distinct nation with it's own culture or language.

[jimbaba16]

@sopmodm4 sopmodom i find it funny how you change the subject so quickly when you are proven wrong

[genYprogressive]

@sopmodm4 HAMAS is a creation of Mossad anyway so what is the big deal.

[sopmodm4]

a 70x90 mile area and only 11% of it fit for human habitation made for the 80-110K Arab population quite neumerous by comparison to many states within the USA but many key areas claimed as ostensibly "Palestinian" today were sparsely inhabited.Example, the anciuent city of Jaffa did not have significant population growth from the time of the crusades until the founding of Tel Aviv. The primary source of employment, services, etc for the expanded Jaffa area only exists because of Tel Aviv today

[sharmuta155]

VIVA ISRAEL

EXPEL THE ARAB ENEMY

[lambent123]

Well from the Bible, Canaans were the palestinians and not the jews and the natives of Palestine. They mainly embraced Islam after the Khilafat of Omar. Yitzak Rabin, Simon Peres did all have palestinian passport under Biritish rule and wanted terrorists.

[sopmodm4]

You have never read the bible have you? Go read it again. If the Palestinians were Philistines then they came AFTER Abraham and Moses if they were the Canaanites then they would be almost Black and look very different than they do today.There is a small percentage of modern "Palestinians" who can trace their DNA to biblical times and guess what? They share that DNA with most Jews :D

[sopmodm4]

These people calling themselves "Palestinians" are not the descendants of Levantine Arabs who fought under Faisal. they came AFTER. names like Khalidi and Nablusi and Masen are old Syria-Palestina names but they only make up for 10% of the "Palestinians" today and it was Haj Amin Al Husseini who got every Arab who wanted a piece of what Jews were building to come in and try to claim it because he was not happy with what they had chosen under Faisal.Remember Arabs chose Jordan as Arab Palestine!

[tdot22]

Have the Americans (true Americans) started dragging you parsites out on the streets and stoning you yet!?!? give it time!! I open the eyes of an one American a week! and after they find out how you mock Christians in your prayers, and what your Talmud says about Jesus and Christians they hate you with a vengence!! you might be safe in America for now but I guarantee you your children and grand children will not, and I also guarantee you by that time there will be no Israel.

[sopmodm4]

Jesus was a Jew, all of his apostles were Jews,the majority of the first Christians were Jews and Muslims killed millions of Christians and oppressed,enslaved,raped and forcibly converted millions more.

[sopmodm4]

Taking what one cranky rabbi wrote to mock Christianity while being persecuted Catholics as a cheap jab to smear all Jews will never compare to the global conquest and warfare perpetrated by bloodthirsty Muslims. Jews,Christians,Hindus,Buddhis­ts,Animists have all been mass murdered by the predatory filth of Islam for 1400 years and every lie you tell and fact you distort will not erase.

[kurdlands]

i am sure use didnt do the same

[sopmodm4]

You Kurds used to be a mighty empire and ruled a large part of the old world before the Arab Muslims conquered you,killed a million of you and forcibly converted the survivors to Islam.You are the descendants of the Medes and Kurdistan is your Israel. When Al Araby tries to say you can't have Kurdistan because Arabs conquered and lived there for generation is the same as the Arabs in Judea and Samaria saying there can be no Israel because they conquered there.Know your history Medes!

[kurdlands]

waw how dou know all this hisotry where did u learn this from may i ahve the websites,

islam is from yahweh muslim means a submitter a person who submits himself to yahweh and the glory quran is from yahweh .

islam is from yahweh to mankind not arabs, but it came dwon in clear arabic and sanse till now yahweh has protected the quran and still it has never being changed and lots of us muslims memorieses it.

in the quran yahweh says ifu want to memories the quran yahweh will help u

[sopmodm4]

I learned all of my Feritle Crescent and West Asian History in college 20 years ago(not many websites back then ;) but I also spent a semester learning the history of the Hijaz and studying the Quran and I noticed that the Arabs claim any place they have lived as their own forever even if they took it by force from innocent people. Judea and Samaria(Israel) do not belong to Arabs,Persia(Iran) do not belong to Arabs and Media does not belong to Arabs.The Quran says Judea,Samaria belongs to Yahudi

[kurdlands]

and do u believe the law of yehwah is the quran as the last revelation to mankind

[ballbreaker1900]

asshole jesus was a JEW!

[tdot22]

You are so pathetic, either you are a lying Zionist, or you have been so indoctrinated by the Zionists you now think your enemy is your friend and your friend is your enemy. well enjoy your time on top it will be 20 years tops before you become a has been power like France/England/Russia

[Tom101229]

He really was. He was born in Bethlehem, which is in Judea.

[amrjosef]

Any smart person can think and see the truth in a simple and logical way. geographical Palestine is in the heart of the Arabworld. The British struck two birds with one stone. To maintain divided Arab states and get rid of their own Jews.

We arabs dont give a fuck if your wife is a billydancer Sopmodm4.

[sopmodm4]

You are retarded,The Hijaz is the center of the Arab World and Trans-Jordan was Ottoman Turk land for 400 years.You are a walking corpse full of lies,malice and deceit. It was the Hashemites who fought the Ottomans and gave the British the right to administer that land and it was the guardian of Mecca who agreed to the division of land which most of the Palestinian mandate was supposed to be in Jordan but the Hasmites reneged on the agreement and finally gave them Black September

[sopmodm4]

I like Arabs, I like Arab food, Arab ,music and I even played sports with Arab boys and dated Arab girls when I was younger,my wife teaches belly dancing but the concept of trying to make your neighbor's land into some sort of Arab Superstate is rediculous. This video clearly shows that the idea of a Palestinian Nation is only a few decades old while Jews have been praying for the ability to return for 2000 years.2/3 of a legitimate "Palestinian" state should be inside of modern day Jordan

[amrjosef]

sopmodm4 how about take your own head and then push it in your wifes ass while she belly dance?? Why u should do that , becuse you are dump and all decomentary videos at that time was sionist propaganda, Who gived Balfour the right to promise our accupied land to european ( Khazarr) jews??

[sopmodm4]

Lebanon,Judea,Constantinople all invaded by Muslims and put to the sword if they refused to abandon the beliefs of their forefathers and you think you have the right to complain about Jews RETURNING to the land promised to them in the Quran by Almighty God?It's not Arab land and more than the America is Anglo-Saxon Land and if I'm a Khazar then why is my DNA the same as a Syrian or Lebanese Phoenician?The Khazars all became Muslims,Jews emigrated from Rome to Europe before Islam existed

[lambent123]

if your claim is true, then why did so many Jews seek refuge in Ottoman Empire after Spaniards took Andulisia and Jews moved to Turkey during World war I? I know this because I was in Turkey almost 20yrs ago and Israelies decents from Andulisia era were celebrating their 500th year of freedom and living in Turkey.

[sopmodm4]

True, Turks treated the Jews better than they did the Arabs most of the time. The Turks were not the strictest of Muslims and they were quick to recognize who was a benefit to them and who wasn't that is why the Sultans prohibited Arabs from building new homes in and around Jerusalem for 160 years while allowing the Jews to come and go freely and even become governors and administrators.They could be trusted and they did not try to overthrow them.Ask the Hashemite King or the Lebanese Christians

[Tom101229]

It is a funny story. People don't understand what Zionism is.

Zionism in the Levant of what was Israel before Roman Occupation was actually started by Muslims briefly before they started to discriminate Jews. What I believe what happened was that the Muslims began feeling sorry for the Jews (after Muhammad and the killing of Jews in the Arabian Peninsula) and sought to bring them back into the Levant. But shortly thereafter, a new leader had arose that saw the Jews as new converts to Islam.

[Tom101229]

There were many times that other Muslims would try to establish a Jewish return of Israel well before Napoleon. Saladin was a Zionist. And of course we know Napoleon was a Zionist. Napoleon is the character that truly revived Zionism in Europe.

Now most people will argue that Zionism is solely a European invention, when that really isn't the case. It is actually invented by Middle-Eastern Muslims who actually had a heart for the poor suffering Jewish people.

[login76]

the druz jumping in with false promises of power is in no way a sign that they jews were opressed under arab rule in palestine.

it is a known fact that jews in palestine (and i quote)

"flourished" in palestine under arab rule while they were prosecuted all over the western world.

arabs are jewish christian and muslim. they dont tie religion to race because they dont believe that God is a racist.

[sopmodm4]

My grandmother would poke you in the eye with a sharp stick and she was from Morroco where Jews enjoyed the best treatment of anywhere in the Muslim world but they still paid the Jizyah,still were not allowed to worship in public spaces and could not get the authorities to punish a Muslims criminal without a Muslim witness.You are a liar and what's more you know you are a liar and God knows you are a liar.

[login76]

they paid jizyeh in order not to serve in the army...

and any crime was not punishable without not 1 but 2 witnesses.. so??

[sopmodm4]

A whole village of Jewish witnesses was not enough to convict Muslim thief or rapist unless there was at least 1 Muslim witness also while 2 Muslims could say ANYTHING and have a Jew dragged from their home and abused or killed.I have heard the story over and over again from my mother's family since I was a small child...

[login76]

im sorry to hear that friend... honestly, im not trying to blidly defend any entity.

2 wrongs dont make a right. jews muslims christians athiests budhists etc..... we all deserve good living conditions and equality. maybe at some point in time jews were frowned upon, i dont know and im not arguing that..

the point is why are they making the arabs pay for what has happened to them in germany and europe??

[sopmodm4]

Arabs pay nothing.The best quality of life,lowest infant mortality,highest level of education,highest access to telecom,clean water,etc was brought by Jews.Arabs and Turks left Canaan in squalor for 600 Years! The height of Arab prosperity in the Levant in 1360 years of Muslim rule was in 1996 AD under Netanyahu.Literally there wouldn't be enough "Palestinians" to create an Arab Palestine without Jews.Arab unity?Jordan,Kuwait and Egypt treated Palestinians worse than the IDF in Gaza..

[login76]

God does not "give" land... nor does he differentiate between races..

[sopmodm4]

That's not what the Quran,Torah or Bible says.

[login76]

i think that israel was purposly placed there to break up the arab trade route and therefore cultural unity. the europeans divided the land whereby each arab country was given its own borders and therefore its own agenda.

having the arabs blindsighted by that gave the western world a chance to flourish. economic and military aid to israel bacame ever so important. so HUUUGE amounts of money and arms were given to it in order to keep the arab power divided.

this will backfire.

[login76]

seems to me like you nor one of ur ancestors has ever lived in the region.. its not a lie that , for the most part, jews christians and muslims lived side by side..... research it !! sure there were some mis-haps from all ends but in general, it was the status quo.

[sopmodm4]

Kind conveniently glossed over that whole conquest and mass murder thing followed by 1000+ years of Jizyah didn't he,LOL

[scarab088]

what a fucking joke, the land belongs to palestinians, and nobody else. ISRAELIS ARE INVADERS AND WILL ALWAYS KNOW PAIN UNTIL THEY ARE OUT OF THE LAND.

[sopmodm4]

It's completely factual and no amount of bluster of fantasy about a great felastin history that never existed.Britain is the father of Palestine not ancient history and Jordan.Your just Al Araby nothing more and 90% of your "So Called Palestinians" had grandparents who walked to Canaan on foot looking for jobs and freebies from the Zionists while native Levantine Arabs were selling their land for 4 times it's value to gullible European Jews who borrowed that money from the Rothschild Banks

[login76]

claiming that God gave this land to the jews kind of implies that god is biased and prefers one people over another.

i find that hard to believe.

[shawry86]

most israelis dont attach god to israel..the settlers are the radical minority

[login76]

so what makes an israeli 'an israeli'? judaism is a Godly religion not a race..

[login76]

the land is a very strategic trade rout so it always had many cultures and races pass by and live throughout history.

1) claiming that judaism is a race is ridiculious because there are jews from different races.

2) palestinians were not of any one religion until the birth of zionism. muslims jews and christians were one healthy social entity

3) to claim that jews are semites and arabs are not is nonsense because many arab muslims and christians today have jewish ancestors

[Goldilocks88]

Palestinian identity goes back to biblical times....they were known as the CAANNAITES....aka the people native to the land. The jews were led to the land by Moses...the Palestinians were born there.

[sopmodm4]

Canaanites were E1B Haplotype and in no way related to either Jews or Palestinians.You are pulling drivel out of your ass

[sopmodm4]

J2(Phoenicians,Sidonians,Assyr­ians,Syrians,Jews) and J1(Saudi Arabians,Modern Egyptians,Sunni Iraqis,ect) are the dominant types in the ME.Jews,Lebanese,Syrians are J2 originating in Syria 10,000+ years ago.Palestinians are mostly J1 originating in the Arabian Peninsula 10,000+ years ago and not spreading to Canaan or Leban until the spread of Islam 700AD."Palestinians" are a modern invention with only a handful of old names dating back even to the Crusades by Ottoman accounts(Masen,Nablusi,ect)

[sopmodm4]

Philistines came to Canaan AFTER the Apiru Shashu(Abrahamic Shemites).Tel Amarna Tablets detail this with Shaul Labayu(King Saul) complaining about the Sea People's(Philistines) being newcomers and invaders which is both historically and biblically accurate.Yaseph was the grand vizier of Egypt but born in Canaan 400 years before Moses and 600 years before the Phillistines.Moses send scouts into Canaan to spy on the Rephaim(giants)not Philistines.If you are gonna play this better take a refresher

[sopmodm4]

Uh that's history and interviews with with all parties involved including the Arabs.What you think you know is from the 100 Billion dollar Saudi funded Islamic propaganda machine.Jimmy Carter changed his position to favors Arabs after 40 years?Why?Because he was paid $2,500,000 by Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan to write Palestine:Peace not Apartheid.This is a universal case of PROPGANDA.This is a BBC historical documentary made prior to the collapse of objective thinking by Islamic Influence

[AbuEdwan]

lol

[p058720235]

good lord - can you spell M-I-K-A-K-O-0-1 H-A-S N-O I-D-E-A W-H-A-T H-E I-S T-A-L-K-I-N-G A-B-O-U-T !

You are welcomed to counter this Historical FACT by trying to find the opposite (but I think you will just waste your time) there is no other side!