Christianity teaches to not worship graven images or icons. If you opt to die for a graven image for Jesus's sake, doesn't that mean that somewhere along the way your beliefs got messed up?
I think you are splitting hairs here. The idea was not so much worshiping the picture but the idea of Christ Himself. If you listen to what the kid said, then you will realize he was dying for being a Christian - not for worshiping a picture.
Perhaps using the picture helped the filmmakers make a point to the audience. I myself consider all pictures of Christ unauthentic and silly. But I would not mock people for using them either.
Think what you want, but he literally says step on the picture or I'll cut your head off. He doesn't say renounce your faith or renounce Jesus or anything like that.
And you make my point for me, really. If worshipping a picture is the same as Christianity to the kid, he wasn't following what Christianity teaches. He was instead DYING FOR A PICTURE because his beliefs got messed up somewhere along the way.
I think that YOU are arguing for no real reason...
Funny how you get so angry and defensive here. Smile.
Since you like to point out what happened in the film....the little boy looks up to Heaven (not the picture) and says "Jesus you died for me...I will die for you". He did not say " I will die for a picture of Jesus".
You are the one who started this whole thing by mocking people who may think it is right to have a picture of Christ in their church. Who are YOU to judge them?
Exactly, the picture wasn't just the picture itself, but first of all - the symbol of all Christian ideas and beliefs.
Besides - in my country we've got this saying: "It's better to die standing than live on your knees". We cannot surrender to evil, because then it just wins and spreads.
It's just a picture. I know the INTENT was that it's a symbol, but Christianity teaches NOT to worship symbols, icons, or images.
HELLO? Am I getting through to you people?
This kid, supposedly a Christian, opts to die for an ICON. If he followed the teachings of Christianity, he would've stepped on the picture and gotten to live and spread the gospel another day. He instead chose to die unnecessarily.... which makes him a STUPID KID.
Again, he never told the kid to give up his faith.
1. Once again. It's not a symbol you worship, rather a symbol of values worshiped. So are actions towards this symbol symbols of other actions towards the values.
I.e. Burning a flag isn't an act of opposition against its colors or shape, but rather against the state.
This commie doesn't want the kid to stomp the picture because he hates the picture itself. He wants him to do it because it's a sign meaning a renunciation of Christian beliefs.
Look, I get that the intention is to make the picture a symbol of his beliefs... but that ISN'T WHAT CHRISTIANITY TEACHES.
If you put ANY of the apostles in the same position, they'd happily step on the picture because THEY would know that it's just an image. What counts is what you BELIEVE, not the symbols of belief. If you die for a symbol, you die a fool's death.
Remember Magritte's famous painting: Ceci n'est pas une pipe..meaning the image representing something is not its substance.
2. It's like a signature on a surrender pact. Itself - meaningless, in our language of symbols - meaningful.
By the way - dying or suffering for one's beliefs is the greatest way of spreading gospel there can be. Look at the example of Christ Himself. And it's not the only one.
Still, IMO it's actually also about not surrendering to evil. It's always better to oppose it (more or less efficiently), than to enable it.
Yes, exaggeration is unnecessary, but Stupid kid? I don't know.
I get what you're saying and, like I said, I understand the symbolism of it... but dying to maintain a symbol is stupid. You know what you believe in your heart and if it means you get to live if you just step on a picture, so be it.
It's just a damn picture.
Besides, you can oppose more effectively when you're alive.
I think this is a case of pragmatism vs. romanticism, though.
Well, a language of symbols is used here - stomping the picture without disrespecting the ideas would be like... "lying". Well, it wouldn't be just stupid but, well - honest.
Still, this is just a movie - a very exaggerated one. The message is "coded" in the symbol that is shown there - it isn't just literal "dying for picture".
And well, it is IMO also about opposing to totalitarianism.
And about "opposing by dying"- what I wrote before.
Stupid anticommunist propaganda dont know anything using false smears.
wowpapa 2 months ago
The pitchfork scene was the best.
ozzyscruggs1 4 months ago
Commie guard looks like Keith Moon as Cousin Kevin from _Tommy_.
ozzyscruggs1 4 months ago
That is the true innocence and bravery of a child.
UnisonChords 5 months ago
That boy looks like Ed Miliband
seehispugnosedface 1 year ago
Notice how the only people on the planet that didn't behead for anything were Americans?
cru1972 1 year ago
What a load of Bo****Ks!
montgomeryrichard 1 year ago
Not an expert on the subject, but I'm sure the religious lot don't believe in worshipping false ido- wait a minute...
PoisonInc 1 year ago
I love that the head he throws has curly hair. Such attention to the little details.
BoredInfidel 1 year ago
Oh those Godless Commie Bastards... lol!
DoctorNociceptor 1 year ago
DO NOT FLAG IT IS REAL
Hundpiraten 1 year ago
this boy is an awesome actor. I love how he looks up to read the cue card, especially since he only had one line.
XartistiqueX 1 year ago 2
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epiksonik 1 year ago
US propaganda funny when it is obvious :D.
sinredml85 1 year ago 2
That kid shoooo do love his imaginary friends.
Phrosty12 1 year ago 2
this is the video Barry shows to his kids
KIMBOSLICE66666 1 year ago
Fuck yeah! Cut his head off! One brainwashed moron down, a lot more to go!
ICLAIMTHISNAME 1 year ago 17
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My thoughts exactly!!!
TheLaurieBergShow 1 year ago
I remember this from religion class; it taught me to be strong in christian faith.
Galan0 1 year ago
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH
Raxer21 1 year ago 9
@Raxer21 You have a problem with Jesus?
jeugdeuroparevolutie 1 year ago 3
Shit bro, just step on the picture! Jesus will forgive you!
EmperorOfMars 1 year ago
WHA YOO THTUPID LIDDL FOO!
TwoCows23 1 year ago 12
Folks...it is NOT that easy to cut someone's head off.
ThoughtTraveler 1 year ago
@ThoughtTraveler how would you know O_O
sk8erboi342 1 year ago
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I seen it on that there TV show.....
ThoughtTraveler 1 year ago
@ThoughtTraveler you have experience with this work?
bitzofdata 1 year ago
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Funny you should ask. Would you like to see my resume?
ThoughtTraveler 1 year ago
@ThoughtTraveler It is if he's a spineless little kid
ICLAIMTHISNAME 1 year ago
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I saw I.F.T.Y.W.W.H.D. when it first came out. The scene right after this one stood out most in my mind.
AlanTheTerrible 1 year ago
I saw I.F.T.Y.W.W.H.D. when it first came out. The scene right after this one stood out most in my mind.
AlanTheTerrible 1 year ago
I saw I.F.T.Y.W.W.H.D. when it first came out. The scene right after this one stood out most in my mind.
AlanTheTerrible 1 year ago
Wow! That was great!
cookwanted 2 years ago
Lol
"why you stupid foo!'
TheHollowFootman 2 years ago
That's right... teach your children to die for a PICTURE.
Such admirable behavior.
OuroborosChoked 2 years ago
Let's not be too judgmental here. I would die for what I though was right. Why mock people's beliefs....
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
Christianity teaches to not worship graven images or icons. If you opt to die for a graven image for Jesus's sake, doesn't that mean that somewhere along the way your beliefs got messed up?
Why, I think it does!
OuroborosChoked 2 years ago 3
I think you are splitting hairs here. The idea was not so much worshiping the picture but the idea of Christ Himself. If you listen to what the kid said, then you will realize he was dying for being a Christian - not for worshiping a picture.
Perhaps using the picture helped the filmmakers make a point to the audience. I myself consider all pictures of Christ unauthentic and silly. But I would not mock people for using them either.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
Think what you want, but he literally says step on the picture or I'll cut your head off. He doesn't say renounce your faith or renounce Jesus or anything like that.
And you make my point for me, really. If worshipping a picture is the same as Christianity to the kid, he wasn't following what Christianity teaches. He was instead DYING FOR A PICTURE because his beliefs got messed up somewhere along the way.
I think that YOU are arguing for no real reason...
OuroborosChoked 2 years ago
Funny how you get so angry and defensive here. Smile.
Since you like to point out what happened in the film....the little boy looks up to Heaven (not the picture) and says "Jesus you died for me...I will die for you". He did not say " I will die for a picture of Jesus".
You are the one who started this whole thing by mocking people who may think it is right to have a picture of Christ in their church. Who are YOU to judge them?
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
Exactly, the picture wasn't just the picture itself, but first of all - the symbol of all Christian ideas and beliefs.
Besides - in my country we've got this saying: "It's better to die standing than live on your knees". We cannot surrender to evil, because then it just wins and spreads.
TapOnX 2 years ago
It's just a picture. I know the INTENT was that it's a symbol, but Christianity teaches NOT to worship symbols, icons, or images.
HELLO? Am I getting through to you people?
This kid, supposedly a Christian, opts to die for an ICON. If he followed the teachings of Christianity, he would've stepped on the picture and gotten to live and spread the gospel another day. He instead chose to die unnecessarily.... which makes him a STUPID KID.
Again, he never told the kid to give up his faith.
OuroborosChoked 2 years ago
1. Once again. It's not a symbol you worship, rather a symbol of values worshiped. So are actions towards this symbol symbols of other actions towards the values.
I.e. Burning a flag isn't an act of opposition against its colors or shape, but rather against the state.
This commie doesn't want the kid to stomp the picture because he hates the picture itself. He wants him to do it because it's a sign meaning a renunciation of Christian beliefs.
TapOnX 2 years ago
Look, I get that the intention is to make the picture a symbol of his beliefs... but that ISN'T WHAT CHRISTIANITY TEACHES.
If you put ANY of the apostles in the same position, they'd happily step on the picture because THEY would know that it's just an image. What counts is what you BELIEVE, not the symbols of belief. If you die for a symbol, you die a fool's death.
Remember Magritte's famous painting: Ceci n'est pas une pipe..meaning the image representing something is not its substance.
OuroborosChoked 2 years ago
It obvious you have some personal issues.
You are really going off the deep end here. This whole argument you are keeping up is now getting very silly.
Maybe you are a troll or just a person who HAS to argue to be RIGHT. I don't know. I am getting tired of it.
Peace to you and yours.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
2. It's like a signature on a surrender pact. Itself - meaningless, in our language of symbols - meaningful.
By the way - dying or suffering for one's beliefs is the greatest way of spreading gospel there can be. Look at the example of Christ Himself. And it's not the only one.
Still, IMO it's actually also about not surrendering to evil. It's always better to oppose it (more or less efficiently), than to enable it.
Yes, exaggeration is unnecessary, but Stupid kid? I don't know.
TapOnX 2 years ago
I get what you're saying and, like I said, I understand the symbolism of it... but dying to maintain a symbol is stupid. You know what you believe in your heart and if it means you get to live if you just step on a picture, so be it.
It's just a damn picture.
Besides, you can oppose more effectively when you're alive.
I think this is a case of pragmatism vs. romanticism, though.
OuroborosChoked 2 years ago
Well, a language of symbols is used here - stomping the picture without disrespecting the ideas would be like... "lying". Well, it wouldn't be just stupid but, well - honest.
Still, this is just a movie - a very exaggerated one. The message is "coded" in the symbol that is shown there - it isn't just literal "dying for picture".
And well, it is IMO also about opposing to totalitarianism.
And about "opposing by dying"- what I wrote before.
Peace.
TapOnX 2 years ago
WHY YOU STUPID LIDDO FOO!
bonham19 2 years ago
"Jesus, you died for me, now I'm gon' die fer yoo!"
jenniemfer 2 years ago
fuck me that was a bit extreme.
Smorg85 3 years ago
godamn lol
fullm3tal90 3 years ago
lol
JERorly 3 years ago