History: Fiction or Science?-True Timeline Rome,Greece,Egypt

[verynicelookingguy27]

This is actually closer to the truth, except the part where it mentions there is no recorded history prior to the 10th century. The problem with this theory is it leaves open a SPACE a huge SPACE in which nothing happened. So the idea of this book is to keep an open mind of our history, and remember that it could have been fixed for Kings who wanted to rule.

[TheCausticGnostic]

I would bet thousands of dollars that DM Murdock aka Acharya S had a hand in this fucking braindead book. Her books are also brain dead in that she denies Jesus ever actually existed and she stubbornly hold to that position despite the evidence that Jesus existed. I am NOT a Christian AT ALL. But I am educated enough to see thru Murdocks lunatic ravings.

[meelusine]

I do agree with him, is that "middle age", is a term which has no meaning.

It's a very long and a very obscure period and where exactly to draw the line between antiquity and middle-age ?

[celeste8801]

Proof....we must find real proof. Not historic "evidence" that may have been tampered with. The real truth lies within ourselves. This external junk aims to keep us dumb and unaware of what truely is. That is the evil of YOUTUBE

[adelle0001]

dili ko kasulti kung fiction or science

[joycloud]

Anything is possible

[hawaii50th]

Definition of this type of claim:

Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but which does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status.

Also, there is a fine line between sanity, and insanity when it comes to being a genius.

[MrLibertydan]

A steaming pile of shit. Thank you for wasting my time.

[Boyan67]

I wonder if there is some genuine conspiracy mixed in the idiotic notions like that Christ is born in 1053 Ad.?!? Archeological a written artifacts will defeat easily this notion. You don't even need carbon dating. Just the verifiable Christian and non Christian dynasties can not be cramped in the proposed time line. Besides the rival Orthodox church should be aiding the Catholics in the lie which they wont do. On the contrary they would expose it just for kicks.

[msherd130]

Perhaps by ignoring logic, reasoning, archaeology, carbon dating, and many other fields while relying completely on speculation or pure made up facts you can believe what this book has to say

[mer3abec]

Stupid ppl belive in what thair been told since childhood. Don't buy book, there are alot free materials, and before complain, check methods which have been used . Ofcours, if you had troubles in math at school, it it useless, ...

[philessexuk]

OMG you are using the computer narrator, you hide yourself, how can anyone take this literally. your pathetic

[12349MJ]

Jerusalem was a placeholder or a religious epithet, it is quite possible that when the old writers mentioned Jerusalem that they had the city known as Constantinople in mind as Constantinople was a premier city for a long period of time.

[DRIDavey]

I guess a human wouldn't narrate this!

[lewars1912]

No, it's not possible. This is silly (:o(

[dartagnian105]

can you believe this book has sold a million copies bull shit all the way Jerusalem and Constantinople are two cities which are in complete different places and yet this commercial states they were the one and the same hahahha nice try to make a little profit with this shetty book

[Mushwan]

smart ADVERTISEMENT of the book! :D

[DeWellstein]

I'm not a big fan of ignorance being spread in the comunity. So why doesn't anybody delete the adverts about this nonsensual book which appears on one youtube video after another? Seeing the advert makes my brain hurt.

[KenCaesarXL]

One little last thing to ponder: Latin was the language of ancient rome, Latin was the language used by the Church to preserve everything they could, and all texts were in latin in europe until the printing press and other things changed. BUT, the MEDIEVAL LATIN is VERY different from ANCIENT LATIN. PROVEN FACT. MEDIEVAL LATIN is sloppier and is a "lazy" form. Point is, the texts from the ancients was NOT produced by anyone other than the ancients. Go read up on it, or STUDY latin sometime

[KenCaesarXL]

THe monasteries were busy translating greek and other ancient texts, and preserving other documents through reproduction, not reinventing history???? really? ESPECIALLY SINCE ISRAEL OR JUDEA (under Rome) DID NOT EVEN EXIST ANYMORE, because the ROMANS under TITUS expelled them from the HOLY LAND. REALLY COME AT US WITH FACTS PROVEN BY ARCHAEOLOGY, ANCIENT TEXTS OR OTHER, not this BULLSHIT intended to make money NO RESPECT

[KenCaesarXL]

ALSO let me add one TINY TIDBIT, ISLAM and CHRISTIANITY ALMOST NEVER GOT ALONG (see the crusades). THEIR GOVERNMENTS AND EUROPEAN GOVS did not get along, and YET, most islamic history of that period is PRETTY DAMN CLOSE TO EUROPEAN CHRONICLES, and guess what that means? ITS PROBABLY PRETTY DAMN ACCURATE HUH? Really...get an education, when things are similar in diff parts of the world at a time when it took months or years to keep in touch at long distances....gee, maybe thats a clue

[KenCaesarXL]

The Church was not involved in re-inventing history, they were trying to preserve it, hence all the big discoveries at that time. THe church preserved almost everything they could from the ancients, that is a fact. Also, the church was involved in politics as a true political entity, they didnt have time to reinvent history, especially when they were first trying to CONVERT THE PAGANS IN ENGLAND AND IRELAND AND SCOTLAND< AND ELSEWHERE, then they were helping form governments

[KenCaesarXL]

SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU BUILD IT AND WASTE RESOURCES FOR SOMETHING THAT CAN"T BE USED????!!!!!!!!!!!! Just to make up history????? REALLY? YOU don't think Popes, Kings, and Holy Roman Emperors had anything better to do???? Like run their nations, avoid wars or declare war, or FEED THE PEOPLE?????

[KenCaesarXL]

I have no words for this, blows my mind.History may be tampered with (the victors write history), like our history of china is different from china's history of china, but, fact remains, that 1000 years IT IS DOCUMENTED that they DID NOT live like in ancient rome or greece, there were no running aquaducts, no bathhouses, no colosseum in USE (BECAUSE LATER CHRISTIANITY BAAAAANNED IT, the colosseum i mean!!!)

[lizazig]

ridiculous....I accidentally stumbled upon this searching Greek history...proven Greek history. I hope no one buys into this and can see that science and carbon dating, etc proves this is worthless information.

[Saiaton]

A Jesuit conspiracy would explain all those Chinese, Indonesian, Tibetan, Sanskrit records, the state of decay of Mayan ruins when the Spanish arrived and for that matter the state of other ancient ruins like the extreme water weathering on the Sphinx, the stripping of the Great pyramid's coating to build parts of Cairo (and the Collisseum to build in Rome) Sure the whole world was just waiting to fall in line with some Jesuit conspiracy - or was it the Illuminati? Or flying pigs?

[jchandler1963]

I wish these ads were done differently. They state the radical conclusions of fomenkos work, which people aren't going to be able to conceive of, without first showing the basis for the conclusions. It turns people off too much. The only people who end up getting the books then are those who simply like to be amused by crazy conspiracy theories. Some of these ads should tell some of the reasons for these crazy ideas. 

[mjwenzel]

How many of you have actually read Fomenko's work? I'll admit that it is hard to fathom this real possibility, but what evidence do you have that history HAS NOT been created (delibrately or not)?

@phallictractor Are you saying that "these guys" should just publish there life's work for free? Everyone who writes history or science or anything and gets it publish is entitled to pay for it. How do you expect anyone to do scholarship if we just expect it for free.

[kojPRVpocna]

my grand-grandmother long ago in the 90` told me that the franki catolics have pass by in the village where hers gran-grand-grand...parents lived and they were heading toward " tzarigrad " (city of kings in the slavic languages) (konstanstinopole, istanbul) where they have distroyed the royality and established new one...

in high scholl i assumed she was talking about the crusade wars ...but in high scholl it was Jerusalim not Konstantinopol... my grandgranmother knew better

[egofanios]

Someone here is in denial. I think it's fomenko ;)

[Tov0voT]

Is this another attempt at Nazi archaeology? Hitler could NOT prove that Germany had a past anything as advanced as ancient Rome or Greece. If the past is as this fomenko new chronology purports Hilter's archaeologists and historians would have discovered it.

[yzScott]

I want what he's smoking.

[ChuckyJesus666]

I guess all those ruins in Greece and Rome are all fake...kind of like the moon landings...::::::rolls eyes::::::

What a maroon....and anyone who follows this. Probably Velikovsky believers too...

[TechnomancerMorhion]

@ChuckyJesus666 This is the result of the political correctness/appeasement disease that's rotted away at society's ability to publicly call bullshit on nonsense. We got this retarded notion that opinions are equally valid even when one opinion is utterly baseless, contradicts with the actual evidence, and is obviously made up bullshit. But hey, it's someones opinion, so we must respect it....*big flaming middle finger to that idea*

[ChuckyJesus666]

@TechnomancerMorhion Yeah, I can respect someone's right to an idiotic opinion, but don't ask me to respect the idiotic opinion itself.

[Takua38000]

LOL, is this serious?

[PARKEREAL]

could it be that all history is onesided by whoever is in charge? history=his story

[x0fx3]

Nothing is true, everything is permitted...

[Nejitheultimate]

@x0fx3 Wow, Assassin's Creed? Really man? this might be as fake as that video game.

[x0fx3]

@Nejitheultimate I didn't say anything about a video game, and yes this is fake. 

[Winter077]

LMAO! All you history buffs are scared shitless! (Oh my God, what if it's TRUE?!)

[tamaduni]

white folk lie---period

[mikeybrumbrum]

Of course, i suppose it could all be a set up, by god, to check us out, before we go to heaven or hell !

Oh hang on, thats pergatory, again, isnt it ?

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

This is bullshit right?

[vusgy]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 No - It is a more accurate 'historic calendar' than the ones we've seen so far

[RaustBD]

I saw an ad for this book before a video about a guy claiming it's possible to raise the dead.

I can't tell which is more insane.

[mikeybrumbrum]

About 500 years ago, it was practise in europe for a man to sit near to a grave, for 2 weeks. A piece of string was inside each coffin, and if the string was pulled, the grave would be dug up, and the man pulled out.

This became common practice, after lots people reported that they had done so with their "dead" families.

LOTS of people DID ring the bell, and WERE pulled out of their graves.

It doesnt happen any more, because of PHERMALDEHIDE (a posion), which is injected into the body.

[mikeybrumbrum]

Im going to finsih by saying, ahve you ever heard the saying

SAVED BY THE BELL ?

It started way before boxers used bells, matey !

All ove reurope, bodies were laid flat for days, to PROVE they were dead.

MANY people woke after 2 or 3 days - MANY !

But it stopped, as i say, when they started pumping PHERMALDAHIDE, into every dead body. Now, if you tried to wake up, you would find your blood contained ACID, and you would feel like you were in hell.

Lets hope that NEVER happens !

[vusgy]

@mikeybrumbrum sounds somewhat like lethal injection the part about acid and being in hell....another creation of man.

[KenCaesarXL]

@RaustBD lol

[feeefyefofuuum]

I am not a creationist, I am all about truth and facts! Read about Fomenko and how the scientific community has declared his theories "pseudoscience", he is a statastician and mathmatecian who fit his math to fit his theories ...his own people awarded him the Russian "shit" award for worst book ever! This is bullshit. Educated yourselves friends.

[vusgy]

@feeefyefofuuum However You will wan't to take most existing historybooks and consider garbage, just as much people consider this book garbage) in the near future.

[finebrova]

hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah­a..... hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah­ahahahahahahahhhahahahahahahah­ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.­..... gr8est joke ever.. give the man a show.. he's hilarious!

[SoLo92ut]

i really hope this is a joke...

[vusgy]

@SoLo92ut its not a joke.....take it very serious and await new perception of human history.

[phallictractor]

why do these guys always have a book to sell? If it is that important shouldn't it be free knowledge?

[kylebstiff]

How much did any of us pay to watch these Fomenko videos?

[vusgy]

@phallictractor you'll find a lot of free sites with info bout the new chronology. Probably a lot of bull out there of course. However this man in on to something much more accurate than ever seen in the modern world(the 'past' 1000 earthyears as it describes)

[skateVA90]

@phallictractor totally agree but in a tyranny world where money controls all you need some way of living although all the videos seem like book advertisements to me

[sdkhfou]

@phallictractor NOO!!! This way you cant point your finger on someone and say that they are telling lies to humanitiy to achieve their evil goals!!

.....and most of the time the truth is pretty boring :D. Im wondering why there arent alines mentioned like in many others of this shitty fucking theorys :D

[summercures2]

@phallictractor: Pop history is not free either. Just go try to obtain a new history book from Barnes & Nobles for free and see how far you get.  Producing books costs money.

Having said that, the last time I checked, History: Fiction or Science is available to read for free on Google.

[DaftAida]

@phallictractor 'these guys' - as if they are a collective unit - have books to sell as it is the most reliable format to impart such detailed information. The years of research from a unique perspective otherwise against all the teachings we have been inculcated with are best contained and transmitted via the written physical form and those years of research cost the time and money sales of a book may only partially cover.How much have we paid for the deception of 'education'?

[jonahbert111]

@phallictractor anatoly fomenko vol 1 & 2 free on GOOGLE Books

[hotnindza]

I don't say Fomenko is necessarily right. But how about that "Mars" example? Planet Mars was named thousands years ago. Mars (the god), or Ares in Greek mythology, has two sons-Phobos and Deimos. In 1877. they discovered that planet Mars actually has two moons-which they (coincidently, right) named after two sons of god Ares.

So, did Romans and Greek knew about Mars' moons, or they made up those "Romans" and their gods after the discovery of the moons? EITHER way we were told a LIE.

[DoctorPlay]

is this april fool jokes

[Borce1990]

This can only work in USA because they have NO history!!!

I am from Serbia,how can they explain my history which has nothing to do with his bullshit???

My conutry's history dates looong before he says...

What about Mesopotamianas who date 3000 years and beyond???

This is BLASPHEMY!!!

[krizla4]

LOL, Anatoly Fomenko is a Russian Mathematicion. In what way is this Blaphemy?

"hIstory" in itself is not a religion, so by defenition it can not be blasphemy.

[Gaaminator]

The greatest mathemitetion? or the dumbest retard in the universe? that should be the new title.

[qxy333]

This is a joke right. Don't fool yourself by listening to this absurd nonsence.

[22poopoo]

I know it doesn't even make sense.

[franzy1]

His follow up treatise, "Aliens ate my lunchbox" further expounds on the true timeline of history

AD 17: The Giants win the pennant

AD 1901: Birth of Al Gore, Internet patented

AD 2012: "History: Fiction or Science" author Anatoly Fomenko moves out of his parent's home into long-term care facility.

[mjanojan]

Hahahahahaa... Right ON!

[u1s1a1]

the greeks came from egypt in balkan 6 C.B. Christus

[ehswan]

Why bother disputing a lyer? How ever the voice and the music are beautiful. I "wikied Anotoly" and found nothing of substance, as in who is he. I think this video is designed to make us feel small and not worth saving.

[VideoPimp22]

Um so Rome, Egypt and Greece never happened?

Well what about the Persians.... Oh and if Rome was created during the renaissance in Italy then how did the ruins get there?So the Italian thinkers during the renaissance must of went to all these ancients sites and planted false runes and artifacts.

OR.....

MAYBE THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT!

Of course i do believe certain exact ancient events may not be as accurately dated as they should be....

[Supersonic9120]

this is the most bullshit thing i have ever seen. Fucking stupid ass whoever made this.

[masrawy91]

who the fuck made this video?? honestly... is this some sort of mentaly ill spaz?? what the fuck is wrong with people these days????

[TengriAsura]

Carbon dating is a serious fraud for measuring recent human history.

[Gaaminator]

I agree

[taimurrasheed]

flamenko is mad from his ass. He needs sympathy because his all family is insance

[CrispyTheCrab]

Please post a vlog of the Five biblical Eons on a timeline .

[inferno0020]

Actually i like this commercial. It is a good joke

[mithec]

not a joke. google 'fomenko new chronology'

[Chairmaneoin]

@mithec google "serious mathematicians laugh at fomenko"

[philessexuk]

@mithec if you belived your theory you would not hide your self or your voice pathetic!!

[mithec]

idem

[1985LISS]

@mithec THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TAMPERING WITH HISTORY IS A NEW IDEA, TO MIX PEOPLE UP AND HAVE THEM FIGH WITH EACH OTHER. TO MAKE PEOPLE STEAL HISTORY FROM OTHERS AND THEN NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE. . FIRST OF ALL WHEN WE USE BC OR AD IT HAS TO DO BEFORE CHRIST OR AFTER CHRIST SO HOW COULD YOU INVOLVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN. YOU SAY WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE CHRIST OR AFTER. ITS SO SO STUPID. THE ONE WHO PUT THIS VIDEO HAS ROCKS IN HIS HEAD

[persiapersian]

what a bout Mesopotamia?

[mithec]

type `Mummies of the Manchester`

[amaravajra]

'mummies of Manchester'

Using this as 'evidence' for the conspiracy hypothesis appears to be a classic Affirmation of the consequent fallacy.

Fomenko's work is also littered with anecdotal evidence where trend analysis and empirical evaluation of the BALANCE of probability is required.

Wouldn't pass philosophy 101

[reptilesrock]

plus, in the Quran its written that jesus was born in the 1st century

[kanister777]

qran - muhammad was inspired by jesuits(Eric Jon Phelps, "Vatican Assassins"). besides jesuits rule the world behind the scenes today. I belive they did falsificate history to hide that roman catholic church is in fact roman empire under different name. IT MAKE SENSE for every one who knows whats going on.

[youngcatlaflare]

wow i thought i was alone.

[XCLU5V3]

@kanister777 stop smoking weed

[reptilesrock]

if ancient egypt was in the renaissance, then how come the mummified bodies in the pyramids were proven to be thousands of years old?

[mithec]

Earth>4.5 bln, humanoids>5 mln yrs. Sapiens<150.000 yrs old, civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS datable earlier than the XI century.

[Life4bombs]

There are 20 angels in this world

10 are sleeping

9 are playing

1 is reading this

put this on 4 video comments within 15 mins,if u do, sum one u love will surprise u sum how!! If u don't , u will lose ur love

[Maureeniegarkie]

I've studied history and I've learned (using the book 'The pursuit of history') that history can never be 100% objective since we weren't actually there at the time to witness everything ourselves, were we? But this theory is outrageous and dramatic(so very american) :P

[Maureeniegarkie]

(By this theory I meant the one from the video) History namely is both fiction and science

[aregyeghnazar]

DUDE... this theory is Russian. America doesn't have ALL the crazies.

[jessy84das07]

this is the funniest thing i ever herd

[mithec]

velikohovsky`s fantasy does not conform to a notion of a scientific theory inspite of einstein`s balmy blessing thereof. new chronology on the contrary is SCIENCE with iron clad and clear statistical and astronimical facts as basis.

[vusgy]

@mithec You are right, and then we also must consider how much we can trust existing documents telling about human actions in the past.

[vusgy]

@mithec do you now about hte crossing planet Nibiru? try google it's pretty exiting

[markierichard]

Everyone thought Immanuel Velikovsky was nuts, too.Check out Earth in Upheaval & Worlds in Colision

[quiksilver222]

every nigger, kike, spick, catholic (yes its a bad word), chink and raghead will burn in hell when the Savior arrives for the 2nd time. just you wait and see

[KostaStar]

you've gotta be kidding me...No matter how much proof historians, archeologists, and various experts produce, there seem to be even more people linking useless pieces of information together and writing their own history. I think ill stick to my confirmed science one this one.

[PirateBooty68]

This idiocy can be dismantled with one word: archeology.

[altiplano666]

Why americans need so great amount of conspiracy shit?! US are the greatest neurotic nation of all times...

[Radogost]

Stupid. That happenes if you only look at one set of data. In this case the writer only looks at written teksts, dissmissing dating methods and ignoring monuments or carved teksts like Egyptian hierogyphes, who are too numerous to fake and who depict Egyptian civilisation, not to mention Roman teksts wich are again too numerous to dismiss as fakes. Not to mention that entire history was made by group of monks? C'mon, I heard a lot of theories, but this is too far feched.

[vusgy]

@Radogost SURE he's probably wrong about a lot of things. However, SO IS HISTORY as we are being taught it now. You'll see....

[stabbagepatch]

Worth consideration. 911 proof again of how false history prevails. Or do you still believe that it was not an inside job?

[rIPZAS]

Sorry i missed something, what does the book have to do with the holocaust?I thing 1000 years it's diferent ,from 50 years..

[thevinerhyme]

This is a book that is carefully engineered pscho-babbling crap! It is designed to shift the mind of the masses into a position of denial of certain historical facts, and perhaps even to the point of denial of things like the buring times and the holocaust so that they never happend. The best way to repeat history is not to learn from it and if we don't know it we will repeat it!

[mithec]

check it just in case: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book for this matter and free of charge.

[cropperb]

Oh My God. Now I've seen it all.

Let's say it is all made up by Jesuits in the 1600's. We still have the works of Aristotle. i guess it doesn't matter who wrote them or when. In other words, the things that matter aren't affected by conspiracies. This conspiracy theory is really freakin wild! I thought Holocaust denial was insane...

[thevinerhyme]

No my friend...do search on the illuminati and the NWO. This book is probabbly a hoax designred to rearrange the preception of our history so that future generations will say that this or that never happened like the holocaust ans so forth. This book is part if the larger illuminati brain-washing scheme!!!

[scatman69]

this reminds me of reading your star sign on the paper no proof very vague, can apply to anything any ignoramos can identify links between two compleatly unrelated subjects, and it doesent take a "mathematician" to right some vague theory with absolutly no supstance or weight... just look at dan brown... what next? fomenko is the decendant of jesus? fek off

0/5

[scatman69]

What a joke why the hell would the classical era be made up? i love the way it trys to justify its own BS rhetoric by stating some upsurd "fact" about stars not being in right positions etc.

[zocann]

Why not - the whole of history is controlled by the wealthy aristocrat whimps of society.

What is really correct is really based on who is actually writing it.

True history started 20 years ago with the birth of the internet anything pre internet history is so distorted that one must be constantly stay challenged in order to accept it as gospel.

The reality is that the rullers make history - however false it may be.

[manchester101]

yea an sun twats stil think the world is flat. ive never heard ov sutch crap. there is more to history than christianity.

[ralphyboy1]

lol he says old and new testaments have stuff from medievil times?? medievil times = christianity = making bibles = adding to bibles??? am I right lol

[ldu06dt]

how very very silly , the romantic in me would love to see this as fact , but as im not a total idiot so i wont

[mithec]

he left no stone unturned. read before potificating.go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book

[oswald1973]

His analysis doesn't stand simply because he left out history in other parts of the world. Where're the historyies in China, India, Africa, Americas? It's entirely his invention... good attempt

[oswald1973]

By the way, the people who "invented" the Egyptians, must be really "creative" hahahahhahaahha

[mithec]

20/20 hit, but still sapiens sapiens < 200 000 years, civilization of humankind (writing,centralized government,army, etc..) < 1000 years old. JC dates 12th cy, New Test. 12-13 cy, Old Test.14-17th cy, Apocalypse compiled 1486 or later. we know nothing exactly about events preceding 1000 years, consensual history erroneus as based on clerical chronology, results from abt 500 years of cooking by clerics and humanists.

[gaquick]

I love the way they show the statue of David as a reference to ancient Greece. I guess it reflects the amount of research they've done.

[Warhorse8]

stupid

[mithec]

check this heresy just in case: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book for this matter and free of charge

[Boromirlover3]

Im todally board when i looked that.but the Egypt i love it!!

[ntbr]

hahhah...ridiculous.

[mithec]

suggest you click on amazon.com link to have alook at ongoing discussion, kindly use "search inside" feature.

thank you for your interest

[TengriAsura]

Read it all. I'm more convinced to Fomenko's theory because of the inconsistancy of archeology and the method. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand this.