HEATER WITH HHO

[bhaikhurram1]

hello you can show or make the block diagram of this system

[Snapshotok2000]

How much power did you have to put into your hho system to generate 1LPM ?

How long can you maintain your production of hho?

PEACE!

[astrialkil]

Do you have a carbon monoxide detector to check the "cleanliness" of the exhaust?

It would be terrible if you gassed your self.

if you used solar power this wouldn't be too bad.

[jasuh]

carbon monoxide?where from? by burning hho you get H2O 2H+O2=H2O (water) :)

[baggedandblown]

@jasuh Its only one oxygen.

2H + O > H2O

[jasuh]

@baggedandblown yes sir my mistake



[KyleCarrington]

"it is only the oxygen making the improvement." ~ Not necessarily. The HHO may contribute to a more complete combustion of the fossil fuel, resulting in a higher BTU output, not the experimenter stated the combustion seemed to clean up emissions. If it indeed is cleaning up emissions, it may be that you could govern the input of the propane. Find a happy medium where you dial back the LPG and still get high BTU. If you can dial it right back, it would be more viable for shop use, healthier.

[ke4uyp]

Now repeat this test using only oxygen and you will have the same results. When cutting steel with a Oxy-Acetylene torch once the steel is cherry red you turn the Acetylene off and do all the cutting with the oxygen. In your example the same thing applies it is only the oxygen making the improvement.

[fuelzer]

@ke4uyp Good point but it is hho that i am adding and i would say that it is both that make a differance. take a 1000 ml of hho put a fuse in it and light it. leave the top off even and check the amount of energy released. wouldnt say that was just oxygen.

[1moeser]

@fuelzer i suppose as you are using hho there are no emmisions so you could use it in a not very well ventilated space which is great because with these heaters you usually lose half the heat because you have to have the door open lol

[IcechickenSr]

@ke4uyp I understand what your saying mate, but the phenomonon your reffering to mostly hewre is Oxidization. so for EG, when your cutting steel and pre heat it to cherry red your already starting to creat Iron Oxide. Iron oxide is responsable for creating the extra heat alone and is one of the only reasons we can cut thick material at all. In the HHO catalytic heater eg, he is consuming a more combustable gas as it is burning here, HHO is about 400 deg shy of Acetylene, so it's a good burner.

[rouelibre1]

@ke4uyp No! When you start cutting, you add O2 to the mix. You don't cut-off acetylene supply for so much.

Acetylene is the combustible and O2 the comburant, an oxydizing agent needed in any combustion reaction. The air intake on your car if you whish. If the gaz pump stops, the engine will stall, no matter how much air is pumped-in.

[ke4uyp]

@rouelibre1 You are wrong I have been cutting all types of steel for 30 plus years using a Acetylene torch once the metal is cheery red you then turned off the Acetylene completely. But you do not have to take my word for it just google the proper techniques for Acetylene torch cutting.

[rouelibre1]

@ke4uyp I stand corrected as per steel cutting with torch. You are right, but in this case, O2 alone still doen't burn, it helps (or make) other materials burn. In this case, the heated red steel becomes the combustible. So you still need something to burn.

This is why HHO is used in this heating application. You can't burn the stove itself.

As per efficiency, I don't know how much electricity producing 1lpm of HHO is used compared to a similar power electric heater.

[AllSectorsHearThis]

Are you using pure HHO or and HHO air mix?

[pouderbern]

YES!!!!!

[jdmforyou]

im runing a proplane ready heater on hho only did some mods works well. nice work

[Davehho1]

Isn't the air intake for the propane , the propanes flashback arrester ? Make sure you have a secondary check valve or FBA on your propane supply line.

Good stuff !

[fuelzer]

does anyone know, is it possible to post pictures in comment? if so how is that done?

thank you

[jdcmusicman]

Very nice..

[HydrogenTechnology]

Can you tell us how you are piping the HHO into the line with propane?

[fuelzer]

please read the last comment. i will be posting additional videos/pictures today. thanks for the comment.

[fuelzer]

that was my concern also, but finally decided to try it. the heater has an up tube. at the base of the up tube, a propane nozzle. there are two air inlets on each side of the tube where i added the hho with an 1/8 inch tube. there is no flame present at that point. the hho just modifies the scavenged air. really quit amazing, there is something to be said about improving the burn of propane.

thanks for the comment.

[SmartScarecrow]

so its a basic camping style catalytic heater ... and where the propane flow sucks air in for mixing, you have introduced a fairly small volume of hydroxy ...

is that all that is required to replicate your technique ??? its an interesting experiment ... if its that simple, I may just give it a try over the weekend ...

I blew up a perfectly good Coleman propane camp stove a couple years ago trying to run on 100% hydroxy ... scared me off a bit ... so this is encouraging to see ...

[tjgame2]

You haveany idea on the mix levels, like how much pro to hho. Nice man

[fuelzer]

Thanks, dont quite know what the ratio is. heater is on low and and just rechecked the hho is 1400ml./min. make sure you have a flash back device. i have two in the line and a water trap bubbler.

[tjgame2]

Yep safety first. I use a few flash and a blow off, but have you had any flash back with the mixed gas. I seams like maybe it's likely to happen, but I havnt done any propane stuff ,YET.

[tjgame2]

Sorry I meant not likely to happen.

[fuelzer]

the up tube is protected from open flame. if i move the hho tube in front of the heater say 2 inchs it ignites. i think this might work on my camp stove if used in the same manor. i will give it a try. thanks for comments.

[SmartScarecrow]

would love to see how you are feeding it without getting flash backs ...