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  • Interesting!

  • ...and Erudite, I don't think Martine feels that tethered to the gender binary [I do, but she doesn't] to take offense at being referred to as 'he.' She can be 'he' or 'she' whenever he wants to. i think the A.I. beings contemplated by shim are genderless. i love and celebrate my chosen gender, it is a part of me - but not necessarily so with everyone all of the time. ultimately, it really doesn't matter what gender any of us are anyway.

  • I'd rather focus on enjoying the beautiful earth and its 6 billion beautiful inhabitants than some AI beings of the possible future. We have everything we need to be whole and happy right here, right now, already. I dont wanna live forever or memorialize my every thought or experience. I'm just not that important to take up the bytes. When people are starving, fleeing warfare or enemies it just seems downright cruel to be focused on a science-ficition future that can only be enjoyed by a few.

  • ...too devote my time to creating a digital copy of myself. I just thinnk it is so much more meaningful to work to relief human suffering that is so unfortunately all around us, and I'm not sure what real utility artificial-intelligence has in that endeavor. I mean, what happens when the electricity goes out. Shouldn't we be building a 'green' future that doesn't electricity for survival - even solar-generated electricity should never become a necessity of our existence. Should it?

  • ya know, i just have too much problem living THIS Life ... the real, un-artificial, here-and-now, earthbound one... to get too excited about a possible, artifically-intelligent, somewhere-in-the-future electronic/digital Life. And I know my survival issues are far less life-threatening than those facing billions and billions of my fellow biologically-intelligent beings on this planet. There is so much untapped, unappreciated and un-understood [sic] beauty right here in the here and now ...

  • Question is who would want to talk to or see a digital copy of their own mind? Besides anything digital can be hacked, when talking about creating a digital copy of consciousness it sounds great but what about x-factors? Eh, I'll wait and see besides who doesn't want to have years of schooling condensed into a download?

  • Having a digital mind is like talking things through to yourself (quietly or outloud), or keeping a journal. Also, if you risk your life, or igetting Alzheimer's, it is good to continue life as a cyberconscious being. Regarding hacking, you are right, but it is just as true for flesh minds. Torture, abuse, manipulation and so on has hacked many a flesh mind. Just as that kind of harm to a flesh mind is a crime, so will it be a crime hacking mindclones.  Mac-based mindclones suffer less :-).

  • nonsense

    he undervalues subconsciousness

    and personality

  • Not undervaluing. Just confident that, given enough people working on it, and exponential growth in IT, we will be able to replicate subconsciousness and personality with mindware. Many people said the first airplane enthusiasts undervalued flight and Bernoulli. Some did, and crashed. Others persisted, and today we fly, soar, sail, and launch through the air with great diversity and democracy. Capabilities (like mind) based on atoms and electrons can be functionally replicated.

  • where's my comment though.

    egocentric slides into egomany, ...so?

    to copy yourself digitally, good, a pretty nice game.

    but it shows in what kind of universe you think to live in. greetings from aristoteles.

  • it is really not about copying a "myself" but copying "ourselves." It is about replacing a universe of uncaring or unconnected social islands with a universe of collective consciousness. It will take time, but it can happen, with mindfiles, mindware and mindcloning. Each consciousness, if kind, is precious. Let's extend and network that kindness. There is a possibility of God, but it will take our collective cyberconsciousness to achieve it.

  • @vuotopiuscuro Martine is NOT a he

    She deserves to be refered to properly.

  • Love it!

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