Heroin For Dummies

[canibaldance]

alcohol and tobaco takes more lifes

than heroin

[ka1rtw]

Don't shoot up, you stupid fucking idiots. These scum just want you to die.

[alleygh0st]

Can I have a social worker to do it for me?

[twizz420]

It seems like everyone is getting hung up on the word "safe".

THE PAMPHLET IS TELLING YOU HEROIN IS SAFE ITS TELLING YOU HOW TO SAFELY INJECT IT YOU STUPID KNOBS.

I'd imagine if they put "how to safely use needles" there wouldn't have been HALF the media attention that there is. NOBODY in their right mind would read this thing and say "oh shit, now i should try some heroin since i know how to inject it!"

[GeneralThieu]

I find it funny that CNN is getting on that dude for the whole pamphlet while they show footage of people getting ready to shoot up and preparing it themselves.

[italianbitch20]

he didnt die of the AIDS he died of the OD, he killed himself casue he couldnt take the pain of the AIDS..he took the needles and shoved it in his heart and injected the heroin into his heart and died...and if u guys knew the shit he went through cause of heroin..and if u read the heroin diaries by nikki sixx, like, my god that'll be your fucking education and your thing to get help, you read what they all went through..

[italianbitch20]

this is bullshit! so many grett talents have been lost to heroin... ROBBIN CROSBY FROM RATT.. an amaszing great man... RIP ROBBIN! and mitch hedberg died of a heroin OD....i mean so many greats have died...this is bullshit, and this is the generation i am growing up in! im fucking 13....this is making me hysterical...robbin crosby got AIDS from a dirty needle,

[Starchildvixen]

HILARIOUS, hey u dont like it piss off, waa waa

[trepidity23]

Ok here is the thing. I highly doubt anyone who is running herion already is thinking about all this stuff as their priority when they are going to get it and doing everything to prep and inject it. This pamphlet is completely worthless.

[isair81]

This sort of stuff does jack squat to deal with the underlying problem.

And in a way, it's ironic, the government is now telling you how to safely inject the heroin

that they themselvs have brought in!

Poppy fields in Afghanistan anyone ?

[jskim1]

another one of dem crack smokin' bureaucrats ending up supportin' ills of our society w/ our tax money...

[sklassen]

How many times does he have to say "safer, not safe" before they stop claiming the pamphlet implies that heroin can be safe?

How to use heroin is no big secret. I'm sure anyone who would sell it to you could show you. But information about how to minimize the risks of infection and overdose are much less available on the street.

This pamphlet doesn't make it any easier to do heroin, nor does it imply that it can ever be safe. The outrage over this is unjustified.

[snookyeoj]

people are fucking retarded

[MangaChocobo]

Wtf is this, showing how to use an illegal drug , and what's potency varies from sale to sale.

Crazy system.

[xUbastardx]

WTF! Time to have a public hanging for whatever elected official let this happen. Let the junkies die. Spend my tax dollars on tainting the heroin with a supertoxin that'll kill the junkies with a single injection. That I'd let my tax dollars be spent on. Unbefuckinlievable. Bleeding heart assholes.

[venuecam]

Quote: "No, no, no "Safely" is wrong. The word is "Safer""

No, no, no we're not stupid and yes, yes, yes this is all part of the elitist's plan.

[venuecam]

Druglord behaviour 101:

1. Occupy the world's largest producing heroin country (Afganistan).

2. Teach your own countrymen and women how to use the drug you've just gained control of.

3. Start flooding the streets of your country with gear.

4. Profit form the scam.

[devilndeepbluesea]

Veneucam, loads of truth in that statement.

Total truth there. I assume that you know the heroin trade was almost nil under the Taliban control , and since NATO it has sky rocketed.

You could never legalize the drug due to the fact it pays out more than taxes not to and its import and tax free...And people think C-130's are used strictly for military? Between your list iof one and four is distribution and money laundering.

[devilndeepbluesea]

Want to reduce risk, try helping those on it to get off it...I guess a heroin addict life isn't just as important as keeping people from getting hiv. oh but it is okay to shoot horse and die

[the4thd]

people are gonna shoot heroin. there is nothing you can do to stop that. the only thing you can do is try and manage the risk.

its time for people to face drugs in this country instead of trying to sweep it under the rug.

[devilndeepbluesea]

I agree, but this is not the way. It is time the nation had a real discussion on this...You can min,. risk without teaching them how to use.....Not with

tax money...

[devilndeepbluesea]

These so called intellectuals are some of the dumbest people. Yes John, lets forget ethics and morality. What next, how to rape? I mean after all, they are both a crime. How about free pamplets on how not to get caught on various crimes too. Why stop teaching people how to use heroin when there is so many more ways to kill yourself if not others.

[teddybruscie]

I see what they are trying to do. And understand, but dont use taxpayer money. I mean do what you like but dont use our money if anything. I see the key word is "SAFER." No one is saying that you will be safe, but you may be safer.

Its not a bad idea, but its not a good one either. Like I said I see where they are trying to go with this... but yea.

Just dont use our money, thats my opinion. just dont use our money to so.

[AlterEgoTrip]

yes, over all the nod yes to so many people, to an illegal and risk filled substance, problematicly, the reduction of HIV infection may just be concerning the over all reduction, however Hep C is on the rise among those who use in Malmö. The officals who are in conflict in Stockholm about the provision of "clean needles" have more to fight against due to the fact we don't want to bend over backwards and provide more people the ok to use and there is HELP; but where is idea of illegalness NY?

[dietermaas]

John Gilbride has a typical standpoint I would say a "control freak" "war on... whatever" mindset. I would like to see a statistics about how many especially heroin users are kids of "control freak" parents, who believe, they can control what their kids put into their brain or bodies. But I could imagine also from the other side, someone being hurt and dishonered, who is living right now in a "bad" housing due to economy, being handed this broshure..as "risk group" just because.... insensitive

[chivaking]

John Gilbride is a fagot! He does not get what the pamphlet is for. It is sad that people who are ignorant of the bigger picture.

[burnpoi86]

who needs street heroin doctors prescribe the shit all the time in the much more pure and regulated form of oxycontin. legalization taxation and regulation is the way to go scince people will rob pharmacy's to get the stuff even if the dea did manage to eliminate the import from cartels. its just that the "war" on drugs is profitable to many people and agencies

[SubmarinerAndroid]

Everything the asshole Federal cop says, also applies to alcohol.

Alcohol is never truly safe, it is a poison, lives are ruined by it, and we should not encourage its use.

And alcohol is much more widely abused than any other drug.

[jezmundberserker]

@SubmarinerAndroid: I agree 100%. And what about Oxycontyn, Zanax, Demerol, Percocet, etc. Aren't those things legal too? The drug policy in this country makes no sense. I personally never messed with any of the aforementioned substances, but it's amazing most of the most destructive ones are legal while a certain plant is not.

[phnixlady]

My wealthy colleege student neighbors and their 50 or so different guests weekly are all on it. They sure are thin, all of em. I worry about the younger kids they bring over. They have the straight landlord fooled with the nice college student couple persona. Waiting for ambulance.Never saw this til last year, heroin. sadness.

[MEpianist]

Fuck the DEA, fuck D.A.R.E - this is a Medical problem, and this prohibition on pot is killing people. These DEA scumbags are literally murderers, and more responsibility lies on Congress for the law. Any black market will hurt our communities.

[Gilliatt83]

agree with the man

[karlsantos]

Why do some people just want to ignore the problems?

Just locking people up will solve nothing.

Educating is never a bad thing.

This is not destined to distribution on schools and there aren't going to be people distributing these panflets asking passers by "have you have considered trying heroin?"

This is targeted at users of the drug, so that people that don't use aren't affected so much by the spread of diseases.

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

DARE - to introduce kids to drugs.

[cloudstrife543]

@ExposeZionistCrimes are you trying to say thats bad? They want to introduce you to them before the kids find out aobut it on their own. It's the same with sex education.

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

@cloudstrife543

Both are FAILURES. Both teenage pregnancy and drug use is way UP since these programs got started. These are both family issues, and should be dealt with as such.

[SubmarinerAndroid]

Not true. States which mandate 'abstinence-only' (i.e. no sex education) have much higher rates of pregnancy and STDs.

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

21 states and the District of Columbia mandate that public schools teach sex education; many states, including several that do not mandate sex education, place requirements on how abstinence and contraception are treated when taught.

22 states require that abstinence be stressed when taught as part of sex education; 12 states require simply that it be covered during instruction.

15 states and the District of Columbia require that sex education programs cover contraception

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

@SubmarinerAndroid

If you can give me a list of a few states that do abstinence-only I would appreciate it. That is still sex education in schools though. I think high rates of drug use and sex also have to do with the media promotion of it. Before you couldn't even have 2 married adults on tv sleep in the same bed.

[nchmch]

This whole "controversy" and "debate" are bogus. It's disappointing that only one side of debate appears on the program -- both panelists believe strongly in government intervention and regulation of the parts of chemical entertainment industry (partially, as e.g. not including alcohol), and the only "argument" is over technicalities regarding this intervention (leaflets vs. law enforcement).

What about personal responsibility and individual liberty?

[anyfekinnamewilldo]

John Gilbride is full of BS..as if someone will decide to try heroin after reading that pamphlet!?

[Mahoivlich]

very few people that are homeless have cash for H.....

[dfadchoco]

@Mahoivlich never been to skid row have you?

[mos619]

alcohol and tobacco are poisons....why dont you schedule those Dick Eating Assholes

[KraXoom]

WTH was that footage from O_O a heroin camp?

[2LeBronJordan3]

Message from CNN and the DEA: it's never safe to educate people

[sx200ser]

make it all legal just tax it, no one new is going to take this shit just cause its legal. and everyone who is on it will do it anyway. use that tax money to help people seeking help. if people OD and die they don't have any excuse one cuz there dead two cuz the help was out there. plus you get rid alot of drug dealers, gangs, street violence, and getting people treatment instead of jail time. what crime is committed when the only person hurt is yourself. stupid fucking laws

[Lynx787]

@sx200ser - Exactly. Some people seem to think that people who don't want to do something, automatically will if legalized. An explosion of new addicts. What BS.

Making something taboo makes people want to do it more, like abstinence education which caused an increase in teen pregnancies instead of curbing them.

[Evasively]

@sx200ser

EXACTLY.

It makes economic sense to legalize it...

[thegreatestbak]

they are not going to be able to stop people, so why not keep them safe?

[Bunnicula71]

Lets be perfectly honest here: If one is to the point where he/she is creating a new hole for drugs to go into, they are serious.

Most likely they are addicted already when they start, via smoking or snorting.

The counter argument guy ain't making much sense. Ain't no kid on the street picking this thing up and thinking, "I wanna go bang some smack.."

Nobody in their right mind thinks its safe, not even seasoned addicts.

[burnpoi86]

@Bunnicula71 great comment and great screenname i used to love those books as a child

[mos619]

See the problem is people, especially the police, want to keep treating addiction as a moral issue. That way they can continue to recieve funds to arrest junkies, a tactic that obviously hasnt worked. Meanwhile states cut the money for public health which funds treatment agencies that view addiction as a disease, which it is. Treatment for addiction works and harm reduction is a part of that. But cops dont want you to think that way cause they'll be losing money and the DEA would cease to be.

[connielane]

They need customers for all the Afghanistan poppy fields!

[Scarlatti2007]

Sod-off John Gilbride, you disingenous piece of scheisse. The only thing that heroin causes ,when clean and done right , is a good case of constipation.

The rational, sane and moral thing to do is to inform these people as to safety issues.

Can we quit hidding our heads in the sand?

[Innize]

The DEA guy is retarded. Is he even listening to what the other guy is saying? He is NOT saying it is a safe way to use heroine, you fucking idiot.

[AfricanMadman]

oh god!

Just use Martha Stewart! It'll work out better folks!

[marniespeaks]

haha meanwhile CNN shows you a video on how to shoot up

[keytoothed]

Okay, let's look at the alternative: Government treatment for heroin addiction is prison. Period. How well does that work? You can't even stop drugs from getting inside. If you're not going to spend the spend to treat people with serious addictions (if you're not going to spend government money that way), then the least you can do is try to stop the spread of AIDS, hepatitis, etc., all of which are also rampant in prison. Prison doesn't treat addiction, it punishes.

[acs6464]

Like the one tweet said, this sounds just like the debate over abstinance only vs. safe sex education. Heroin users know how to use; they don't need a guide in that respect. Heroin users will continue to use if they so choose. This pamphlet, as Jarlais says, is designed to provide information on who to contact if they would like to quit using, and if not, at least impart some information that will reduce the spread of disease and prevent death. Get your head out of your ass, Kyra!

[axelxrb]

It's poison in your body?

Well it's ok if you drink your poison (alcohol), but god forbid you inject or even smoke your poison

Fuck you, I want to consume whatever poison I want freely without people telling me I can't.

[foolishbob]

@axelxrb i agree except... you forgot that heroin is a greater poison than weed and alcohol. plus the addiction? it would be ignorant to compare heroin to any other drug

[axelxrb]

@foolishbob Oh I would never dare to say both are the same, just that by THEIR standards, they are all poison, despite them having a bunch already legal.

[Newfie4646]

MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM METHADONE - OXY COTIN - MORPHINE then herion those are all man made drugs provided by doctors, they have panflets

[Newfie4646]

LOOK if people are going to use, then they should be educated. Heroin is not a party drug is a highly addictive drug that is required after the first time. the lady and the DEA guy are over racting and haven't done their research about the drug

[greyflcn]

@Newfie4646

Well of course the issue is that it's a hard drug.

The trick of course being that you have two extremes hear.

Either someone gets addicted to a hard drug.

OR they spread deadly diseases and potentially kill themselves

Neither option is particularly good, but the second option is better than the first.

[jayrod59]

Newfie; Yes heroin is a highly addictive drug however you cannot get hooked on it by doing it once. It depends on the person but after using for 3-4 days to a week is when most people get a heroin "habit" where your body gets sick from not having it. By the way methadone is much safer than heroin. Unfortunately I know too much about this crap.

[FixedNewsAlerts]

It's stopping them spreading HIV all over the place. What's the problem?

[CollateralSandwich]

People who are against these kinds of pamphlets are the same morons who say that condoms promote sex.

[S1Genocide]

Why is this bad? This is what I was tought in DARE in the 90's. I guess they want more kids strangling themselves and snorting Tylennol PM. (cheese)