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  • thank you :) :)

  • Pinky ad Perkie?

  • Wait up...."a Time Lord has thirteen lives"?

  • @SabreMaiden yeah, so?

  • @SabreMaiden

    They made an admin mistake, and the director did say sorry for this at a Whovian Convention.

  • 1234 1234 1234 1234 before the drums the never ending drums

  • The should have been mumified

  • the 8th doctor is definatley the best doctor

  • @hawkke1

    Well, technically they put Davros on trial. Besides, the Daleks are probably infamous for their kangaroo courts too.

  • Hated the movie, loved the theme. Fact is, Sylvester McCoy is credited with the initial downfall of Doctor Who, but had Doctor Who not failed then and gone through the nineties, it may not have been here now. Doctor Who+90s= :P

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  • @hawkke1

    #1 Remember, this was a made-for-TV movie. Maybe they were just trying something new. Or maybe it had been way too long since the Dalek's last appearance, so maybe the guys who were responsible for the movie just kinda went off-track way more than they should.

    #2 Maybe they were planning on using The Master from the beginning, seeing as they could have aknowledged him as a great threat to The Doctor.

  • @hawkke1 Well, this was (In Time Lord years) pretty much just before the Time War, so who knows? It might have been a new breed of Dalek? Or the Daleks may have decided that they would become judges?

  • The Daleks had a little bit to much Helium....

    Also, a court? Why a Dalek court? Everybody knows that will result in Death Sentance only.....

    Also the Doctor was there, they would kill the Doctor instantly...

  • I was born 2000, so it's good I saw BBC in that year, and Dr Who

  • at :57, listen to the four drumbeats!!!!

    ... forshadowing, anybody?

  • @ClawSlasher1 The way those 4 beats are in every doctor who theme which is what inspired the 4 beats in the first place?

  • @ACtheLegend nothing. but the original theme was done witha very basic synthesizer, so the 4 beats would have been the easiest thing to do

  • @ClawSlasher1 thats always been in doctor who. that was pracically the theme song at first. so no. not forshadowing at all.

  • one thing very interresting is that at 0:56 you can hear the 4 beating drums that the master always heard LOOL

  • i think that the 8th doctor could have been one of th greats like 4th,5th,9th,10th,11th.

  • @dalekarmy correction:

    2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 11th (4th is overrated, tenth is average to me)

  • @dalekarmy

    Ecclestone? One of the greats? Behave, he did one pitiful season then quit for fear of being typecast, which he now is anyway. The only story he did with any decency was 'Dalek'. That was it.

  • pity you didnt show the interior of the TARDIS, the film version is my fav.

  • @hawkke1 i dosen't matter it's ocotr who

  • @hawkke1 Apparently there was an agreed ceasefire before the Time War, and it wouldn't be the first time the Daleks showed a law system - Davros was tried for his crimes at one point.

  • There were plans for 'The Four Doctors' with McGann, Ecclestone, Tennant and Smith but it's dead in the water now. Shame.

  • my favourite theme, its so cinematic and epic

  • No, in "Death of the Doctor" (sja episode) they unconfirmed that theory making it 507 instead of 13. Only logical reason is that before the time war the time lords did some biology stuff and found out how to extend the life stuff and to get more regenerations

  • That means the doctor now has 3 lives..

  • @hawkke1

    a previous incarnation of the Daleks before the Time War, the latest incarnation has red, blue, yellow etc daleks

  • can you hear the master's drumbeat in this?

  • @katherineisastar

    i can indeed

  • @hawkke1 acctualy the renegade daleks put davros on trail, so we can assume its them.

  • the only thing fox did well for this one

  • this theme is better then the normall eighth doctors theme music

  • 90's style FTW!

  • The Daleks sound like Douche Bags

  • The Daleks sound like rabid chipmunks.

  • One of the best doctor who themes since 1963.

  • my favourite variation of the theme.

  • this is the 11th if u forgot!

  • this is one of my fav versions of the fantastic theme!

  • 0:42 the daleks sound a bit like chipmunks lol

  • those are really th daleks!

  • PLEASE SOME ONE TELL ME HOW I CAN GET THIS MOVIE!! I"VE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE!!!!

  • @ToyGunEnt get it on HMV

  • timelords only have 13 lives? That means the doctor only has 2 llives left after matt smith's doctor.

  • @brusselstarlight They will conveniently forget about the 13 lives limit, just as they forgot that the Doctor has a grand-daughter (therefore he must have been married at some point)

    .

    Or the way they forgot Doctor #1 was actually his 6th incarnation (as shown in flashbacks). Doctor Who is not known for continuity or accuracy

    .

  • lol daleks on helium!

  • i thought it was 12.....oh well

  • @luigisonic404 They can Regenerate 12 times, so they have 13 lives. I used to make the same mistake.

  • i love this film! the titles inspired chris eccelstons titles.i think

  • The Time-Lords practically endangered the Doctor by letting the Master have a last wish.

  • 0:40 wtf is with the voices? and daleks not kiolling master straight away? daleks granting him a wish? what are they fairies?

    and then 0:58 onward you hear

    dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum like the masters noise in LOTTL/EOT

    13 lives? wtf. that bit just ruined doctor who. we get a thirteenth doctor then show ends FOREVER.

    no offence to them but that 2 minuites were quite bad

  • @gogallifrey

    The 13 lives thing was put in place before the movie, secondly the after the 13th doctor if its still popular they will do something to bring it back, for example the master dies in this movie and has used up all of his lives and he still comes back

  • I miss that middle 8 ._.

  • Why was he put on trial on Skaro at all?

    Makes no sense, they clearly just wanted to stick some names in.

  • i think i heard that he was captured and he had joined them to help them destroy galifrey and he betrayed them then he bgot trialed about that

    thats what i heard from my dad.and hes seen all episodes from the 2nd to the 11th

    a

  • nah, as far as I know, the master never met the daleks. He certainly never wanted to destroy Galifrey. There isn't any real reason. Not to mention the fact that the 7th Dr destroyed Skaro.

  • Yeah I - Mondas - see your - Sontar - point with great - Raxicorocofallipatorious - ease, yeah... :P

  • the daleks do sound like smerfs.

    maby they hit puberty ever thought of that.

  • @BrIza488 Sadly, they wont;(

  • 100% accurate. This movie is repugnant. Having watched this again recently, I lost count of the number of times I involuntarily huffed, tutted, and cringed.

    And you are right - it was an awful way for the Seventh Doctor to meet his end. That small diminutive figure who was more the Lord of time than any other incarnation deserved to perish in a way befitting his manipulative, dark, unpredictable character. The ending of Survival would have been perfect. Not this bollocks.

  • @stormmine you sound fat

  • @furQ

    You sound insecure. I hope the opportunity to sit on the Internet, at the age of 29, and make comments like that makes you feel better about yourself.

  • @stormmine sorry fatty

  • well considering galifray was destroyed after the master's remains were taken there but he returns again in another couple of years.

  • He didn't fully die though, he regenerated as a Skaro Snake creature that can possess people, I think it was that, I haven't seen this movie in a while. It would be kick ass if they did a remastered version... with the Dalek voices replaced...

  • If I was gonna take a guess, I'd say that this was a plot that the Daleks and The Master had cooked up between them. I'm not quite sure what the Daleks got out of it though... a distraction of some kind? There was certainly some wierd shit going on in the Doctors's 8th incarnation, what with the Richard E Grant version of the Doctor in "Scream of the Shalka", and the Doctor's own claim to be half-human (something that would literally become true for Ternnants "other" Doctor!)

  • @TimeTravellerDB the snake was the master

  • @gogallifrey  That's what I said...

  • I wonder about something. If Paul McCann played the eight doctor in one movie, did Christopher Eccleston play him for the next nine years?

    I really need answers...

  • No - Christopher Eccleston played him for one year (2005). How long there was 'in universe' between the movie and the 8-9 regeneration is uncertain, but it's implied in 'Rose' that the regen was fairly recent.

    Skaro was destroyed, presumably in a future period to this - 'War of the Daleks' is a load of unutterable tripe.

    The movie wasn't bad, but Paul McGann was great - thank goodness he was able to do the audio stories!

  • Skaro was destroyed by that doctor who hung out with Ace - the seventh doctor, remember? Perhaps you know this already...I haven't watched this movie yet. It looks slick however so I'm going to see it when I get the chance. Pete

  • Yes, Skaro was destroyed in 'Remembrance of the Daleks'. However, Davros was last seen in Earth's distant future and suddenly pops up, having made himself Emperor, in 1963. Therefore we can assume his ship had gone back in time. Meanwhile the Hand, when launched, is described as "Entering Skaro Time Zone", suggesting it has gone forward to Davros & Co's home time zone - thus it's quite possible that in the TV Movie Skaro hadn't yet been destroyed. If you see what I mean!

  • Parallel dimensions!? I've spent a week processing what you said to try to see what you mean so hope I've got the answer right!

  • 'Remembrance' takes place mostly in 1963, but the Hand of Omega is sent through time (by the Seventh Doctor) to an unspecified point several centuries in the future to destroy Skaro. Therefore the Master could be executed on Skaro perhaps years before (in strictly linear terms) the Hand actually arrives and turns its sun into a supernova.

  • No Christopher Eccleston plays the 9th Doctor

  • Maybe the eyes that you see are part of the real form

  • No where. They are humanoids in the sense that everytime we have seen them, they have been in human form. But, it has been stated on several occasions that that is NOT their normal form. And we have never been shown their real alien form.

  • No we don't, everytime we've seen a Time Lord he or she has always been in one of his or her regeneration bodies, we don't actually know what Gallifreyans really look like.

  • Hell no! McGann kicked ass, he didn't get the series he deserved, twice doctor who is shafted by producers who don't care about the character's future... Anyway,mcGann has SEVERAL SEVERAL books, audios, cartoons, ETC. and one unseen story, "timewar", the MOST PROLIFIC DOCTOR ever.... I think,anyway.

  • Right on, the 8th Dcotor is the one who fought in the Time War!

    I still don't see why the TV movie was so hated. I enjoyed it...

  • i did to

  • Am I the only one who likes the 8th doctor xD

  • no i saw the movie and i thought he was a really good doctor i think tennant and mcgann should meet eachother because there alike in alot of ways.

  • No, you're not the only one.

  • I never saw this movie (I downloaded it, but it had no sound), but this is probably the worst rendition of the theme I've ever heard. C'mon, where's the creepiness?

  • No way mate, this has to be one of the best!

  • I actually think an orchestral take on the theme worked pretty well. Better than the 7th Doctor's theme in any case!

  • even though i loved this movie the simple fact that it didnt take off in america as the producers thought is that well honestly Doctor Who is too british for american tv and they tried to americanize it and well it just didnt work.

  • Skaro was not destroyed by the 7th doctor, if u read the 8th doctor novel war of the daleks then you will know that the dalek prime/emperor hollowed out skaro's core, replaced it with a proppulsion system and removed it from its orbit and replaced it with another planet which the hand of omega destroyed !!!

  • Skaro was not destroyed, if u read the novel, war of the daleks, you'll know that ther Dalek prime/Emporer hollowed out skaros core for some kind of propultion system, moved it out of its orbit and replaced it with another planet, SKARO WAS NOT DESTROYED !!!

  • There were three main problems with this movie:

    1) The TERRIBLE miscasting of Eric Roberts

    2) The stupid loveydovey stuff that's been carried on to the new series.

    3) The hamster Daleks. :)

    There were other smaller bits but overall this was actually quite a good movie - certianly no worse than the good episodes and much better than the bad ones.

  • explain why 2) is a bad thing. isn't love one of the things the doctor stands for and fights for. a force for good?

  • That doesn't mean I have to LIKE it. :)

  • After Serbia's defences confescated by Arckduke Fekanand. In which the Serbian goverment sent a group to assasinate him. "It was a request they should never have granted...." (speaking when the theme music begins).

  • "It was a request they should never have granted him"

    ...Applies also to the BBC approving a Yankie Wank production, and Ian Levine's "Doctor In Distress"

  • It's The 8th Doctor's Theme 2 Me So Don't The 10th Doctor's Theme Is In It Cause It's Not?

  • It is the tenth title sequence in Doctor Who. That doesn't mean it has anything to do with the Tenth Doctor.

  • @metalgeariain i must admit, it is very alike, the swirling vortex, the names coming in to out. and the tardis is a little bit like the 10th titles but thats about it

  • @PeterDavison1982 as in 1 for William Hartnell = 1 1 For Patrick Torughton = 2 2 for Jon Pertwee = 4 2 for Tom Baker = 6 1 for peter Davison = 7 1 for Colin Baker = 8 Sylvester Mccoy = 1 = 9 1 for this movie = 10

    Tenth title sequence we've seen on doctor Who

  • well they really mucked that up

  • The actual doctor was good. The story was awful. And wtf was with the american daleks at the start???

  • the daleks sound stupid in this movie, i agree

  • hear the daleks say "EXTERMINATE!"

    in this movie?

  • love it! best opening i've heard

  • As much as I dislike this movie, I have to say that is good opening music

  • LOL possesed chipmunks *rolling on the floor*

    sorry but hollywood plus doctor who doesn't work

    but we americans still luv it!!!!!!!!!

  • try wikipedia type in 8th doctor then go down to links and right click the music link then choose save as and thats where you get the music well thats where I got it anyway.

  • the USA had a crap go at Doctor Who didn't they?

    i told them we Brittish should have done it but nooo!

  • The movie still turned out better than any Sci-Fi channel original series since. Dr Who only tanked because science fiction on network TV fares poorly.

  • It also tanked because Doctor Who was very much a niche market and the audience that watched Roseanne instead of this had never heard of Doctor Who and could care less.

  • As much as I love Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica is one of the best TV shows on today - and it's a Sci-Fi original. That said, it's still better than most of the junk on TV these days, sci-fi or no.

  • Galactica is especially bad. They didn't ewven TRY to make it like the original classic of Sci-Fi TV.

    Instead of humans rising above their problems to unite and show the best of the human spirit, humanity is a bunch of backstabbing examples of the most horrible parts of humanity. Doesnteven seem like an alien culture at all. Its EXACTLY like moden day Earth with the exception of warp drive.

    And if it has a vagina, it ain't Starbuck.

  • @ReverendSyn The movie did quite well when it aired - #1 show in its slot and seen by about 8% of America (that's bigger than Star Trek had - only 5%). I don't know why FOX decided not to pick up season 1

    .

    Probably the same reason they canceled Futurama, Space A&B, Family Guy, Lone Gunmen, and Firefly - an aversion to scifi shows

    .

    I also don't understand why the BBC did not pick it up. The sets were already built and sitting there in British Commonwealth Canada. BBC could have used them

    .

  • Actually, this was written and directed by British dudes, the Americans just funded it.

  • british DID do it. they just aired it here. it was filmed by the BBC in Canada

  • Brittain did what? Surely not the movie!

  • great entrance just pure brilliance just one problem can't find the audio anywhere on the net it would be great if someone colud help me thank you

  • As horrible as everyone thinks this movie was I don't actually think it was all that bad. It's main down points were:

    It was done by Americans who do not understand Dr. Who

    The horrible miscasting of Eric Roberts as The Master

    The whole Skaro thing

    The Eye of Harmony being in the TARDIS instead of the Panopticon

    The whole Half human thing.

  • I have to agree with you, Wirrn. IMHO, I think the Skaro thing and Eric Roberts as the Master were the worst problems with the movie. First of all, Daleks do not have any kind of due process laws, so they can't hold a trial for the Master. Also, in the opening, the Daleks' voices sound kinda like electronic chipmunks. Finally, Skaro was destroyed, as dalekcaan and Wiseelm said, by a supernova in Remembrance of the Daleks. Either way, the intro is quite good. Especially the CGI logo :)

  • I can only explain it as being Skaro of another niverse. Maye the same one as the one the Alternate Universe Cybermen seen in the future BBC series.

    And Ill take this movie over what SLIDERS became. There was a spin-off series after the movie proposed but FOX went with the SLIDERS proposal instead.

  • It was never specified which time period the Skaro that the Doctor destroyed with the Hand of Omega was in. How do we know this Skaro isn't from before the future time it was destroyed?

  • I expect they just did it to mention Daleks in as they are most people's favourite badies

  • That makes no sense: Skaro was destroyed by the 7th doctor and the daleks would exterminate the doctor when he tries to get the remains from them. Make no sense... still, good intro 5 stars!

  • Only thing that annoys me about this is that Skaro was destroyed by the seventh Doctor in Rememberance of the Daleks, so how can the Master be put on trail there?

  • I never got that, too.

  • Those dalek voices were waaaaay to squeaky.

  • What's with those eyes at the beginning? Im presuming they're the Masters. I alays thought Gallifreyans regenerated into human looking lfieforms. Or is that common for Gallifreyans?

    And are ALL Gallifreyans really Jello snakes inside or something? I don't get that whole bit.

  • Nobody knows what Time Lords really look like, but the Tenth Doctor seemed relieved he didn't regenerate two heads, or three arms, so.......we never know.

  • This what you do when you have american money and run out of idea's, this was dire. I think they kept the idea for the opening got for the faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar superior recent serials

  • Its called "Doctor Who". It was a movie made in 1996 starring Paul McGann as the eighth doctor. If you live in the UK you can buy the DVD.

  • wats this cald i reely want 2 c this it looks awesum

  • Why would they have the Master executed by Daleks but not actually show us the Daleks? Seems kind of a copout, since theyre the Doctors most pre-eminent foes.

  • They didn't want to have to pay royalties to Terry Nation.

  • But if you have the rights to Dr Who you automatically have the rights to everything in it, and that includes Daleks. Theyre part and parcel with the show.

  • Nope, apparently not. Terry Nation created the Daleks, and when they're used in a story by that name, his estate recieves royalties. The BBC, however, owns the design (and by extension, the voices) of the Daleks, which let them use the Daleks here without naming them. (The same thing happens when the show uses the Cybermen - both Nation and Kit Pedler, the Cybermen creator, are named in the ending credits to "Doomsday".)

  • i have the DVD of this

  • Any good?

  • EPIC!

  • does anyone know when this originally aired

    Click (Reply) below...

  • It was aired on the 27th May 1996.

  • I'm I the only feeling this is like a jab at Paramount "see we at the BBC can also do Next Generation kinda of Star Trek GFX if we really want too" hehehe.. The planets and all.. and the intro with the Doctor Talking :D. And the music change. PLus also how the credits roll on the screen hehe.

  • This movie wasn't made by the BBC. It was made by Fox in the U.S.

  • Am I the only one who likes the 8th doctor

  • Nope, I adore the Eighth Doctor, he's one of my favourites. But the TVM is DIRE - Eight is just about the only good part. (Along with this version of the opening music! Whee, orchestra.)

  • I thought he was pretty decent. They should have started the new show off with him for a season or two before switching to Christopher Eccleston, (Who dont get me wrong did a great job) It's not like McGann ever got any work after the movie.

    Come to think of it, I dont think McGanns doctor is canonical, when the 2005 series started it was Eccleston, with absolutely no mention of regenerating from McGann

  • but Eccleston is the 9TH doctor, mcgann is the 8TH,

  • Wrong. Go watch the first episode of the new series. Its very clear the doctor just regenerated... and in a picture in one of the later episodes theres a picture with the 8th doctor smack dab in the middle.

  • wich episode???????????

  • Human Nature.

    The 8th Doctor is smack bang in the middle of the "Journal Of Impossible Things"

  • oh thanks

  • bring back the marster i say

  • They can't after this. WHat happened to him at the end of the movie looks pretty final. He's already used up all of his regenerations. He hasnt shown up in two seasons of the new show so it's pretty safe to say he's never going to come back.

  • *taps to the Sound Of Drums* ;) You'll know when you see it.

  • I wouldn't be so sure, if I were you. Wait for the drumbeat, in the new series.

  • i thought skaro was destroyed during the 7th doctors dalek confrontation, but i heard the daleks managed to move the whole planet before the hand of omega destroyed it, i see this is true as the planet still remains

  • Skaro was destroied by the hand of omega in the future so the Skaro in this intro could be some time befor it was destroied.

  • yeh i understand but i thought i read some where about how daleks could place warp engines inside planets, but this may have been just a theory so who knows

  • they lost the rights at some point in production to use the daleks so due to copyright they were forced to remove the images and distort the voices so they were almost impossible to identify as daleks as the word 'exterminate' is hardly a copywrited word. And by copyright law they could only use the dalek term once without needing permission

  • whats with the exterminate noise theres no daleks there!!!

  • can someone put the movie up here..id love to see it

  • someone already did just type in doctor who movie paul mcgann and its in 9 parts

  • Well i havent seen the movie but i dont give a crap about what the others think im gonna get it...

    p.s

    thanks for the opening sequence!

  • Always loved this opening music; very like hail to the king and that

  • I really wish the movie would come out on DVD in North America.