if u want to test a weaker version at home witch is the way all this started mix corn starch and water then punch it rapidly and then just put your fist on it, it will sink and if u pull it up rapidly once your in the bowl will lift with it u got to go slow
the way this shit works is that the molecules actually get into a tighter formation the harder the impact is. I believe the term is non-Newtonian fluid Kind of like corn starch in water how you can smack it and run on top of it, but lightly moving your hand or walk slowly and it is like a liquid and you sink. If the bullet does gain a tad more velocity like one comment said when heated then that would be the reason they heated it. Making the bullet go faster actually makes this armor stronger
The whole video was not about the kevlar or whatever, its just testing of a special shear resistant liquid (non-newtonian) on any kinds of aramid (in this case they use Kevlar) or ballistic fabric. It simply makes the material more resistant, not totally so. No sucha thing as god mode armour....
Yes it in Singapore and it is tested in the indoor range at Cisco.
The bullets being shot in this video are 9mm no terrorist or insurgent group would use just 9mm when it can do that with 7.62mm bullets then there may be discussion for it
my issue is: what happens when you have someone firing more than one shot... it seems to really have a smaller area after the tfirst shot hits it, and does the first bullet make the vest inoperable?
My question is... If the adhesive of dragon skin was that sensitive to temperature do the really think that painting a liquid over Kevlar is not going to thin out in hot and/or humid air and run off? I mean really...
@Orthrus When people refer to small arms, they usually mean handguns. An AK is by no means a small arm. For fucks sake, it's an assault rifle and furthermore a very powerful weapon. The 7.62x39mm Rounds do quite a bit of damage. The AK is a very reliable weapon, just like the RPG-7. They may be cheap, but they are effective.
No they don't. If they do, then they don't' know the term and jump to the most likely conclusion. Small arms are small arms, including everything less than a Vulcan Cannon. They include everything from pistols to submachine guns to rifles. An .50 cal M2 machine gun is a small arm.
On top of that, don't overestimate the AKs firepower. It's an intermediate rifle round, very light-duty when compared to our older 7.62 Russians and NATO issue rounds. It does quite a bit of damage as you say simply because bullets in general do a hell of a lot of damage. The AK is by no means 'weak', but it's JUST an assault rifle. Far as I'm concerned, an M240 or a Mk.19 are 'very powerful' weapons. An AK isn't. Just a solid rifle.
@yourkillersfan yes well you have to think in the long run if we go to war with Korea for example they have heat rockets, .50, 7.62 so you think about it that is why they still use shit from the cold war like the Abrams the cobra the apache longbow and others
Kevlar does the same thing but worse. If u get shot with kevlar on, depending on the round type, your going to get a big bruise and a few broken ribs. I still think thats better then actually geting shot.
@vampireallie there just showing how much the bullet pushes in, of course it would be less on a real human body, and hell, try getting punched, its worse than this, and thats not 3 inchs its like 1
This is the first step twords Mjolnir style master chief armor. Lightweight actuated armor system with 90+% coverage? Hells yeah, just need us some power.
I'm just referring to the style when i reference spartan armor. Lightweight overlapping carbon nanotube structured plates coated in hydroflex. Hydroflex takes the brunt of the impact, plates spread it over a larger surface area like dragonskin armor. No penetration because of the hydroflex and the kinetic energy would be dispersed enough to make it painless to the user. Add something like the HULC system and a soldier could wear a few hundred pounds of the armor and still be able to move
Mr NL, I'm very impressed by your work, I believe you were at Milipol? Are you going to Shot Show? I would like to learn more about your R&D in this field and discuss product development in Europe. Best regards JP
@EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie because they don't fight at the northpole but in hot countries. The gun may get confused shooting at people from cold countries for a change.
@EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie All i know was he was heating the round, and bullets travel faster when heated because the powder will burn at a higher rate then normal. It does a little, not a whole lot.
@EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie i dont know to much about this, but my guess is they are cooking the round, so the gunpowder outputs more power than it would cold.
The point is not whether or not Hydroflex would make good body armor currently, but whether it is a stepping stone to the next generation of body armor. A form of liquid gel armor is already being used by prison guards to protect from stab wounds; who knows, in ten years, technology might advance to the point where something like Hydroflex could defend against .308 winchester FMJ!
The military doesn't want to issue them because of how much it costs to deploy a new armor. The military needs a newer much better armor to persuade them to switch.
You got it right there. Money. The governemtn really doesn't care at all about it's soldiers, despite what they say. It's all about economics. Forget values and ethics, they don't give a rat's ass about some 18 year old who signed in to work as front line infantry. It's much easier to let him die and claim deniability then to spend more money then they have.
And trust me, it's the fucking truth... politicians shaking like shitting dogs while they watch all their money go down the drain on this useless war.
At 0:07 seconds you can observe the firearm and ammunition, it appears to be a 9mm round and a MP5 SMG. I think a rifle that fires rounds like 5.56 or 76x39 would penatrate the liquid armor with no problem....
Not good to stop bullets, even if the bullets doesnt penetrate.. imagine a large caliber gun getting shot to the chest.. your lungs could collapse.. a slow choke to death.
It didn't penetrate. but, it still focuses a lot of the impact energy which is still quite deadly. The wearer will still probably die from severe internal bleeding or organ failure and its only from a pistol round. This armor failed.
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a vest aint shit if they want to kill you and your a cop they know you are wearing a vest so they aim for your head and most body armor sucks any ways like dragon skin and that new shit from the thing the eche a sketch that magnatis to hold the bullet
ok. go get a fragmentation grenade. put on dragonskin, and lay down on top of the grenade as it detonates.. you will not survive, even if the fragments dont penetrate, which is iffy, your internal organs will suffer massive shock and reduced to pulp. dragon skin is good at stopping penetration. body armor is also measured on its compression ratio when shot, ie how much force is transmitted from the projectile to your body... dragon skin is not good at that part unfortunately
im not saying u would live the blast im just saying that its so strong it would take the blast and not penetrat the vest ..... and theres storys frome people in iraq that took sevril round of 7.62 x39 and didnt even know there vest whas hit so i dont know what u are talking about
they relly dont have proof .... theres people who tested it in heat and said it passd ....... if u think about it how is it going to miss shap thats a fat lie are military just dont want to spend the money on them
its not a fat lie its sceientificly proven that it misshapes the material has a relitivly low melting point so a year in iraq it wouldn't stop bullets
i agree with you they send our trrops to iraq and afghanistan and won't give them the best body armor to protect them form being killed that gragon skin is good stuf i saw them put high explosives on it an blew it up the guy that was on the testing of the dragon skin said they never tried that test but it passed it with no problem if that had been a person in that he would have survived with only minor injuries
lol your hull would be there.. nothing else though. just bits and pieces my friend.. bits and pieces. They should give soldiers out there Dragon Skin though, Its better than the kevlar, and if they fund it good enough it might even have force impact reducing capabilities. It woud be a livesaver. even more than it is now.
@Breaker3051 I'm a PFC in the Marine Corps, so which body armor I get is obviously very important to me. For a while I was also astounded that the DOD didn't issue all troops Dragonskin after the testing I'd seen. However, I looked into it and the key reason it isn't used is because at sustained high temperatures (such as in Iraq and Afghanistan) the adhesive in the vest falls apart, turning it's greatest strength into a catastrophic weakness.
also since it's made from multiple discs besides the glue failure it's relatively easily penetrated from certain angles and only 100% secure at head on bullet impact.
@Bfwizard15 Dragon Skin was canned not because of temp, the ceramic plates are arranged in such a way that by design default they can't take even the smallest caliber at extreme angles. The plates are stacked so they overlap with lips exposed, the bullets will chip the lips enough making their way in because of lack of surface area they don't stop. If temperature is the main issue then they would of properly sealed it and added better materials. Interceptor is great for what it is.
Yeah, I saw that report. The material is promising but it still has a lot of research in the area of versatility and reliability before it's combat ready. Bulletproof armor should be something you could wear while trudgeing through swamps and desserts and frozen tundras for days and still work fine regardless.
@Bfwizard15 So one failer means it sucks forever and can't be improved upon at all huh how long did it take for the Military to upgrade the M16 to a survacable rifle again? you know that would work good enough what 10-20 years minimum and they can't even try upgradeing a great design/concept with some minor heat issues? Yeah sure bet it's to expencive and would rather use you guys as bullet magnets for the SF oh well have fun trying not to get shot.
@Bfwizard15 that's actually quite wrong. The main issue that it had was that it couldn't properly redistribute the force of the bullet. When the navy did testing, it found that the blunt force which was received from the hit strike face was still VERY lethal. The "testing" most people refer to when they talk about the wonders of Dragonskin is generally the testing done in the future weapons issue. Every thing done in that episode can be done by level III armour.
Look at the environments that we are fighting today. In a desert, the little plates tended to separate from the composite, leaving holes for bullets to enter the body. Dragonskin may be better in a European type environment, but it was not better in the desert. There is still much improvement to be done and yet people don't seem to accept that fact.
@Breaker3051 dude... bad bad. who do you think these people doing tests are? Unfortunately, no Singaporean citizen holds guns like those to do these tests.... They are real people working on improving body armor
@Breaker3051 I know this is old but Dragon Skin wasnt as great as people thought it was. The Army tested Dragon skin and found that the resin holding the plates together fail at extreme temperatures, for instance in hot areas (such as Iraq and Afghanistan) the resin would melt and the plates would fall out of order. And in extreme cold places, such as the mountains of Afghanistan, the resin would freeze and break.
lol police armor is ment to stop mainly small caliber weapons, unless u have situations were better armor is required, such as for S.W.A.T. , the army wears better armor that has to be more durable, flexable and can take repeated hits from high caliber bullets. the police generally use vests that are somewhat stab proof and can resist mainly 9mm rounds
Your retarded...it was edited to save time because no one wants to see them just taking measurements and they knew that. Finish school before you decide to try and make a good invention look bad.
They go very far in a short amount of time, meaning that they collide with air at around 900 km an hour. I'd say that it would get a shitload of friction, and since friction warms things, yes they do get hot.
the olan isnt to use it as a total body armormor, just around the arms and legs in places that u dont hav NE armor. so instead of geting shot in the arm or leg u just break it or get HUGE bruises
most of the time BODYARMOUR only gives you a bruise' that is the most that bodyarmour can do "OVER 44mm" of force could cause injury but NIJ has too be least then 44mm too pass the blunt truma test.
44mm of blunt truma this means of "DEFORMATION" this means that clay thing they had that acted as the human body that took LESS then 44mm of blunt truma.
and threw out this vedio they used 9mm x 19 hydro flex is not N.I.J. certified becuase it has no LEVEL of protection and plus full bodyarmor uses products like (DSM DeYEMMA) becuase its more thinner then ARAMIDS.
and i do not mean (44.mag)
i mean't 44mm like on a ruler. lol.
you would need less then 44mm too pass N.I.J. testing.
you won't have massive injury if its less then 44mm of blunt truma you would have no or lil truma injury this means it would feel like a PUNCH and not a HAMMER hiting you.
but hydro flex failed as you saw the hole was over 44mm this caused massive injury.
this is so dumb apsolutly useless and at the begining it looks like an mp5 clip can you imagine anything bigger lmao this alone would break your rib cage, haha how would you even wear this thing, wut you gunna run around with a bag taped to you lmao
steel is not used in softbodyarmor so don't even relay it on that.
softboydarmor that covers legs and arms uses DSM DEYMENNA or LEVEL III-B aka X-2 pinnacle armor system too stop AP PIsTOL threats and high veotity SUBS. like 4.6cal and 5.7cal
...its not a bag you wear, its the material...since its very maleable you can essentially line this is any piece of armor/gear. Like Roark said instead of getting shot in exposed limbs that normally arent covered by armor, you'd get a bruise or a broken limb.
hydro flex FAILED and it suppose too be the bag inside a CARRIER other shell panel.
and yes most LEG and ARM protection is LEVEL III-A but some like Polyethyelene plates are used too stop RIFLE ROUNDS such as 5.56mm x 45 and 7.62mm x 39
so if i was anybody i wouldnt wear HYDRO FLEX becuase it is no good and FAILED N.I.J. testing and it would not break your rib cage because you would be wearing it on your "LEGS AND ARMS" and it went over 44mm of deformation so it FAILED N.I.J. DUMB ASASINS
Doh is called Plastilina clay, at 40 degrees C, its for measuring backface, the yellow skin you talked about is the armour.
And for the Dragon Skin guys out there, bulk is the main problem with mobility.
For Level 5 guys, that is called the ESAPI or Enhanced Small Arms Protective Insert, its 8.5mm of full 3.2 density Silicon Carbide with 9.9kg/m2 density of Polyethylene UD fabrics as the spall lining. What polymer glues it together is PU
hell this is horrible, why not just use dragon skin (yes i know the military banned it but some troops still get to use it for special missions or protecting v.i.p.s)
Dragon skin is horrible and needs major revisions. The reason why it was banned by the US Army is because the glue holding the scales together breaks up in the middle east's high heat. Solve that problem it it will be excellent.
Apparently in the level 5II and up (Military grade) the plates are held together by some kind of plastic or polymer (The feds won't let them release the specs *irony*) and when the over 120+ daytime temprature for six hours gets to it its about as effective as Elmers.
Its is not shit by any stretch, but it can't take powerful hits and it can't take repeated hits. The only problem with dragon skin is the adhesive. Sewing it together would compromise plate strength, the enemy would only have to hit the stitching and plates would fall off. But once we nail the adhesive, it will work wonders, especially in a real war.
if u want to test a weaker version at home witch is the way all this started mix corn starch and water then punch it rapidly and then just put your fist on it, it will sink and if u pull it up rapidly once your in the bowl will lift with it u got to go slow
BkbladzZz 5 months ago
the way this shit works is that the molecules actually get into a tighter formation the harder the impact is. I believe the term is non-Newtonian fluid Kind of like corn starch in water how you can smack it and run on top of it, but lightly moving your hand or walk slowly and it is like a liquid and you sink. If the bullet does gain a tad more velocity like one comment said when heated then that would be the reason they heated it. Making the bullet go faster actually makes this armor stronger
chesterbesterfeild 5 months ago
The whole video was not about the kevlar or whatever, its just testing of a special shear resistant liquid (non-newtonian) on any kinds of aramid (in this case they use Kevlar) or ballistic fabric. It simply makes the material more resistant, not totally so. No sucha thing as god mode armour....
Yes it in Singapore and it is tested in the indoor range at Cisco.
Prometheus3052 7 months ago
omg thats a crap protection
Warzonerusher 8 months ago
singaporeans alright. hahaha whr is dis? baik ah singapura.
SkyAmbassdeur6500 8 months ago
from the way they talk... I think they're from Singapore... correct me if i'm wrong =P
trykillmi 8 months ago
Im sorry this might be quite amazing to some but armour is useless if it curls up after being hit once.
Kiiiizle 9 months ago
Fake
hcdub 10 months ago
Singapore?
noelsoong777 11 months ago
LOL, when they are testing this, I was getting ready for my reservist shooting test.
Humster 11 months ago
spider silk is still better
Psilocybe85 1 year ago
this+dragon armor+trojan suit+exoskeleton superhuman styrength thing=
HALO IN REAL LIFE
lambhunter0 1 year ago 6
@lambhunter0 gay...
158057 1 year ago
hmm... looks like there is a bit of spalling on the last test.
Namolis 1 year ago
Singaporeans alright.Can tell by the singlish and cisco.
zacTAG 1 year ago
Singaporeans?
zacTAG 1 year ago
There is another reactive liquid armor I've seen. Its supposed to be liquid and turns solid when energized.
johnyjoe2k 1 year ago
Liquid armour? Fantastic! I thought of that a few times when really high.
Zenlake 1 year ago
VIET!
abacusasian 1 year ago
Where can i get some of this stuff?
callowaymotorcompany 1 year ago
The bullets being shot in this video are 9mm no terrorist or insurgent group would use just 9mm when it can do that with 7.62mm bullets then there may be discussion for it
roguewarrior5 1 year ago
Anymore info on this? Site or anything?
bbglas007 1 year ago
if the bullet bounces why is he in front of the shooter and not behind the stand
TheBrandin1234 1 year ago
my issue is: what happens when you have someone firing more than one shot... it seems to really have a smaller area after the tfirst shot hits it, and does the first bullet make the vest inoperable?
glennlump 1 year ago
My question is... If the adhesive of dragon skin was that sensitive to temperature do the really think that painting a liquid over Kevlar is not going to thin out in hot and/or humid air and run off? I mean really...
dragonamt 1 year ago
I just love the cocking sound of the mp5
AstatineMime 1 year ago
Singapore, Singapore.... tsk tsk...
AstatineMime 1 year ago
two words 1- dragon 2-skin ;)
chicayote 1 year ago
2:54 WTF? Magic ruler?
CoffeeLord 1 year ago
Dragonskins' way better then this.
QuinlanRanger 1 year ago
U missing the point. Fuck body armor, sandwich this shit between steel plates and built an APC out of it.
TheCoxblox 1 year ago
@cox
Any round meant to go through our current APCs would go through that like butter. RPGs and .50s. No real point.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@Orthrus
Guess what, not every terrorist has those. they mainly have small arms and AKs.
yourkillersfan 1 year ago
@yourkillersfan
Since when is warfare fought against armies of terrorists?
Furthermore, small arms and AKs? What, is an AK not a small arm?
Orthrus 1 year ago
@Orthrus When people refer to small arms, they usually mean handguns. An AK is by no means a small arm. For fucks sake, it's an assault rifle and furthermore a very powerful weapon. The 7.62x39mm Rounds do quite a bit of damage. The AK is a very reliable weapon, just like the RPG-7. They may be cheap, but they are effective.
deebonig23 1 year ago
@deebonig23
No they don't. If they do, then they don't' know the term and jump to the most likely conclusion. Small arms are small arms, including everything less than a Vulcan Cannon. They include everything from pistols to submachine guns to rifles. An .50 cal M2 machine gun is a small arm.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@deebonig23
On top of that, don't overestimate the AKs firepower. It's an intermediate rifle round, very light-duty when compared to our older 7.62 Russians and NATO issue rounds. It does quite a bit of damage as you say simply because bullets in general do a hell of a lot of damage. The AK is by no means 'weak', but it's JUST an assault rifle. Far as I'm concerned, an M240 or a Mk.19 are 'very powerful' weapons. An AK isn't. Just a solid rifle.
Orthrus 1 year ago
@yourkillersfan yes well you have to think in the long run if we go to war with Korea for example they have heat rockets, .50, 7.62 so you think about it that is why they still use shit from the cold war like the Abrams the cobra the apache longbow and others
midgetmarine2 6 months ago
are they saying this armor will protect us? dont mind the 3 inch craters the bullet leaves. that wont hurt very much
vampireallie 1 year ago
@vampireallie you get that with any body armor
tallestoner 1 year ago
@tallestoner thats what the ceramic and the padding is for. this is LIQUID thats what happens with it.
vampireallie 1 year ago
@vampireallie
Kevlar does the same thing but worse. If u get shot with kevlar on, depending on the round type, your going to get a big bruise and a few broken ribs. I still think thats better then actually geting shot.
yourkillersfan 1 year ago
@vampireallie there just showing how much the bullet pushes in, of course it would be less on a real human body, and hell, try getting punched, its worse than this, and thats not 3 inchs its like 1
opiatkiinq 1 year ago
This is in Singapore
gRiLeDcHiKen 1 year ago
This is the first step twords Mjolnir style master chief armor. Lightweight actuated armor system with 90+% coverage? Hells yeah, just need us some power.
sp4cepope 1 year ago
@sp4cepope
master chief spartan armor is not lightweight, its approximate weight is 1 TON, this is closer to the Crysis nanosuit, except without the nanobots
mastergiux 1 year ago
I'm just referring to the style when i reference spartan armor. Lightweight overlapping carbon nanotube structured plates coated in hydroflex. Hydroflex takes the brunt of the impact, plates spread it over a larger surface area like dragonskin armor. No penetration because of the hydroflex and the kinetic energy would be dispersed enough to make it painless to the user. Add something like the HULC system and a soldier could wear a few hundred pounds of the armor and still be able to move
sp4cepope 1 year ago
master chief weighs 267 pounds outside of amor, he weighs roughly 1000 pounds in the mark vi, and its also hydraulic for movement.
thedocwhofan 1 year ago
Mr NL, I'm very impressed by your work, I believe you were at Milipol? Are you going to Shot Show? I would like to learn more about your R&D in this field and discuss product development in Europe. Best regards JP
MrJP1664 2 years ago
Money > lives of troops. Now if i see a giant robot doing all the work i wouldnt complain...so wheres my giant robot?
TheWTFsauce 2 years ago
Look up foster miller talon, big dog, and of course the sentry guns made for the DMZ in south korea.
Military robots are fully scary. Soldiers won't kill civilians...
bishopdante 1 year ago
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"Military robots are fully scary. Soldiers won't kill civilians..."
@ bishopdante
On what planet?
BlackShogun 1 year ago
what are they doing with the heat gun?
EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie 2 years ago 19
@EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie heating the round up
drsta84 2 years ago
@EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie because they don't fight at the northpole but in hot countries. The gun may get confused shooting at people from cold countries for a change.
sjeessjees 1 year ago
@EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie All i know was he was heating the round, and bullets travel faster when heated because the powder will burn at a higher rate then normal. It does a little, not a whole lot.
Kevintb10 7 months ago
@EhhhRiteYaPureGadgie i dont know to much about this, but my guess is they are cooking the round, so the gunpowder outputs more power than it would cold.
anonforuz 6 months ago
The point is not whether or not Hydroflex would make good body armor currently, but whether it is a stepping stone to the next generation of body armor. A form of liquid gel armor is already being used by prison guards to protect from stab wounds; who knows, in ten years, technology might advance to the point where something like Hydroflex could defend against .308 winchester FMJ!
Holnonymous 2 years ago
WONT EVER BE ISSUED
arronfoster17 2 years ago
YOU GUYS IN SINGAPORE? WHICH RANGE?
predalien47 2 years ago
I thing its the range in HTA , Lim Chu Kang
Humster 1 year ago
Great idea light ,doesn't make you warm,and does better than kevlar i think they use this aganist rpg shrapnel
dxmoe 2 years ago
The military doesn't want to issue them because of how much it costs to deploy a new armor. The military needs a newer much better armor to persuade them to switch.
ZaoHuZhua 2 years ago
You got it right there. Money. The governemtn really doesn't care at all about it's soldiers, despite what they say. It's all about economics. Forget values and ethics, they don't give a rat's ass about some 18 year old who signed in to work as front line infantry. It's much easier to let him die and claim deniability then to spend more money then they have.
MadamKouassi 2 years ago 2
you got a good point.
frozenhiphop09 2 years ago
Thanks.
And trust me, it's the fucking truth... politicians shaking like shitting dogs while they watch all their money go down the drain on this useless war.
MadamKouassi 2 years ago
It's not that at all. It's just money. They really don't care about the soldiers, despite what they may say:
"Join our forces, we'll keep you safe and give you a good job."
Bullshit...
MadamKouassi 2 years ago 3
At 0:07 seconds you can observe the firearm and ammunition, it appears to be a 9mm round and a MP5 SMG. I think a rifle that fires rounds like 5.56 or 76x39 would penatrate the liquid armor with no problem....
Elderworm 2 years ago
Not good to stop bullets, even if the bullets doesnt penetrate.. imagine a large caliber gun getting shot to the chest.. your lungs could collapse.. a slow choke to death.
OlyJeebus 2 years ago
It didn't penetrate. but, it still focuses a lot of the impact energy which is still quite deadly. The wearer will still probably die from severe internal bleeding or organ failure and its only from a pistol round. This armor failed.
Blitz4000 2 years ago
I agree if this guy isn't dead hes at least out of the fight so the armor is a failure
patmaklot 2 years ago
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a vest aint shit if they want to kill you and your a cop they know you are wearing a vest so they aim for your head and most body armor sucks any ways like dragon skin and that new shit from the thing the eche a sketch that magnatis to hold the bullet
jayhoody121 2 years ago
dragon skin is the best armor in the world it can stop a frag gernade blast and it wont penatrat all t he way through
isaiahman1234567 2 years ago
but it starts to come appart in conditions where it is soaked in gas. Also in extreme cold and hot. That's why.
If they sewed the parts together instead of gluing them then the problem may be fixed.
paratrooper6 2 years ago
ok. go get a fragmentation grenade. put on dragonskin, and lay down on top of the grenade as it detonates.. you will not survive, even if the fragments dont penetrate, which is iffy, your internal organs will suffer massive shock and reduced to pulp. dragon skin is good at stopping penetration. body armor is also measured on its compression ratio when shot, ie how much force is transmitted from the projectile to your body... dragon skin is not good at that part unfortunately
ChinaGhost52 2 years ago
im not saying u would live the blast im just saying that its so strong it would take the blast and not penetrat the vest ..... and theres storys frome people in iraq that took sevril round of 7.62 x39 and didnt even know there vest whas hit so i dont know what u are talking about
isaiahman1234567 2 years ago
but sadly the material its made up starts misshaping in heat so in the middle east it would start to not work
jaystar316 2 years ago
they relly dont have proof .... theres people who tested it in heat and said it passd ....... if u think about it how is it going to miss shap thats a fat lie are military just dont want to spend the money on them
isaiahman1234567 2 years ago
its not a fat lie its sceientificly proven that it misshapes the material has a relitivly low melting point so a year in iraq it wouldn't stop bullets
jaystar316 2 years ago
dude i dont think so man ..... is that why genrals and shit have been reported wearing it in iraq
isaiahman1234567 2 years ago
my brother was there for 2 1/2 years and said no one had it...both sides of the arguement can lie the goverment and the makers
jaystar316 2 years ago
i guess nobuddy knows forsher im mean after all its just the ward . of other people ive never witnessed and proble never will
isaiahman1234567 2 years ago
what the hell is that.
piraat6666 2 years ago
look at the cocksucker heating up the bullets so they can forn into the vest easier, if this was bulletproof, it would be on us soldiers
deptofmisc 2 years ago
You've never heard of greed then. Look up armor called "Dragon skin" and you'll see how much a soldiers life is worth in the governments eyes.
Breaker3051 2 years ago 4
i agree with you they send our trrops to iraq and afghanistan and won't give them the best body armor to protect them form being killed that gragon skin is good stuf i saw them put high explosives on it an blew it up the guy that was on the testing of the dragon skin said they never tried that test but it passed it with no problem if that had been a person in that he would have survived with only minor injuries
radioactivesludge23 2 years ago
in that future weapons test? that guy would have had his arms and legs blown off.... not what i would call a minor injury my friend
ChinaGhost52 2 years ago
lol your hull would be there.. nothing else though. just bits and pieces my friend.. bits and pieces. They should give soldiers out there Dragon Skin though, Its better than the kevlar, and if they fund it good enough it might even have force impact reducing capabilities. It woud be a livesaver. even more than it is now.
OlyJeebus 2 years ago
@Breaker3051 I'm a PFC in the Marine Corps, so which body armor I get is obviously very important to me. For a while I was also astounded that the DOD didn't issue all troops Dragonskin after the testing I'd seen. However, I looked into it and the key reason it isn't used is because at sustained high temperatures (such as in Iraq and Afghanistan) the adhesive in the vest falls apart, turning it's greatest strength into a catastrophic weakness.
Bfwizard15 1 year ago 33
@Bfwizard15 how hard is it to use a better adhesive like gorilla glue of something
HeatSroken777 1 year ago
@Bfwizard15
also since it's made from multiple discs besides the glue failure it's relatively easily penetrated from certain angles and only 100% secure at head on bullet impact.
Thefallenraptor 1 year ago 2
@Thefallenraptor if it withstood a grenade blast and ide shot wouldnt it withstand a shot from any angle wouldnt u think?
iluvbigbootie 1 year ago
so you would recommend using dragonskin in colder areas?
johnym89 1 year ago
@johnym89 No
39483294jdw0 1 year ago
@Bfwizard15 thanks for the info. I don't see much of this type of information on the web.
frankgon4 1 year ago
@Bfwizard15 Dragon Skin was canned not because of temp, the ceramic plates are arranged in such a way that by design default they can't take even the smallest caliber at extreme angles. The plates are stacked so they overlap with lips exposed, the bullets will chip the lips enough making their way in because of lack of surface area they don't stop. If temperature is the main issue then they would of properly sealed it and added better materials. Interceptor is great for what it is.
39483294jdw0 1 year ago
@Bfwizard15 Actually it's biggest weakness is not being able to take shots from angles. Anything more than 30 degrees would penetrate.
reddog418 1 year ago
@Bfwizard15 Shower shoe boot ass mfer. Go clean the head and stop bragging about being a PFC
only1option 1 year ago
@only1option Bragging? No, just stating what he is. You're an asshole.
trannycorebeatbox 6 months ago
@Bfwizard15
Yeah, I saw that report. The material is promising but it still has a lot of research in the area of versatility and reliability before it's combat ready. Bulletproof armor should be something you could wear while trudgeing through swamps and desserts and frozen tundras for days and still work fine regardless.
MichaelCox 1 year ago
@Bfwizard15 So one failer means it sucks forever and can't be improved upon at all huh how long did it take for the Military to upgrade the M16 to a survacable rifle again? you know that would work good enough what 10-20 years minimum and they can't even try upgradeing a great design/concept with some minor heat issues? Yeah sure bet it's to expencive and would rather use you guys as bullet magnets for the SF oh well have fun trying not to get shot.
GUNS4MIKE1234 8 months ago
@Bfwizard15
Boot
ehnogi 7 months ago
@Bfwizard15 that's actually quite wrong. The main issue that it had was that it couldn't properly redistribute the force of the bullet. When the navy did testing, it found that the blunt force which was received from the hit strike face was still VERY lethal. The "testing" most people refer to when they talk about the wonders of Dragonskin is generally the testing done in the future weapons issue. Every thing done in that episode can be done by level III armour.
Marcownz747 1 month ago
@Breaker3051 -from Dragon Skin.
Look at the environments that we are fighting today. In a desert, the little plates tended to separate from the composite, leaving holes for bullets to enter the body. Dragonskin may be better in a European type environment, but it was not better in the desert. There is still much improvement to be done and yet people don't seem to accept that fact.
dinmagic 1 year ago
@Breaker3051 dude... bad bad. who do you think these people doing tests are? Unfortunately, no Singaporean citizen holds guns like those to do these tests.... They are real people working on improving body armor
AstatineMime 1 year ago
@AstatineMime why does that matter? Its still going to cost more than a human life to the government.
matticus12345 1 year ago
@matticus12345 at the same time it would be used to save lives
AstatineMime 1 year ago
@AstatineMime but the govenrment wont buy it because they had rather lose a few soldiers. Its cheeper than giving them all the best equipment.
matticus12345 1 year ago
@matticus12345 it depends
AstatineMime 1 year ago
@AstatineMime depends on what
matticus12345 1 year ago
@Breaker3051 I know this is old but Dragon Skin wasnt as great as people thought it was. The Army tested Dragon skin and found that the resin holding the plates together fail at extreme temperatures, for instance in hot areas (such as Iraq and Afghanistan) the resin would melt and the plates would fall out of order. And in extreme cold places, such as the mountains of Afghanistan, the resin would freeze and break.
Devilsfurry 1 year ago 2
@Devilsfurry Good idea, terrible execution...
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Enough so that they won't buy a failvest. As far as I know it fucking sucks at taking shots which aren't hitting it straight but from certain angles.
MoaiMaea 1 year ago
lol police armor is ment to stop mainly small caliber weapons, unless u have situations were better armor is required, such as for S.W.A.T. , the army wears better armor that has to be more durable, flexable and can take repeated hits from high caliber bullets. the police generally use vests that are somewhat stab proof and can resist mainly 9mm rounds
SpiderMonkeyA69 2 years ago
It would be to expensive
HamMedBukserne 2 years ago
the ruler dissappers without anybody touching it knarly!!
footballplayr96 2 years ago
knarly wtf who says that....
westy092 2 years ago
i do got a problem with that to damn bad.
footballplayr96 2 years ago
whay is he heating up the bullets? is it frezing coold there or what?
stian1986 2 years ago
Maybe to Simulate Desert Temperatures ?
DJFanatiq 2 years ago
they're singaporeans. able to tell the poor way they talk
Alphapunk2 2 years ago
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this is fake dude its all computer thing look at minute 2:55 who took the ruler out of the clay wtf computer man
xxcubanproxx305 2 years ago
if you pause it you can see the bullet hit on the right side of the ruler it was fired using a silencer took the ruler clean off
gemcutter187 2 years ago
Your retarded...it was edited to save time because no one wants to see them just taking measurements and they knew that. Finish school before you decide to try and make a good invention look bad.
nonamre 2 years ago
it's called an edit, ever heard of it
mrfrankincense 2 years ago
Their speak like India.
Matanjun1970 2 years ago
Thats nice...what happens when the second round comes in with it a bunched up??
MrTsunami1126 2 years ago 2
lol
SupermanExtreme1 2 years ago
it...bunches up more...maybe...
what the fuck is he holding a drill for?
USMC2nd 2 years ago
That's not a drill, that's a heat gun. What the fuck is he holding a heat gun for?
fresnel149 2 years ago
He is heating up the bullet
DJFanatiq 2 years ago
I was about to say "well that's obvious, but to what end?", but when I got to the comment page, the first and second comments answer that question.
fresnel149 2 years ago
Lol, Singaporeans.
TheHarleyScott 2 years ago
nick name it custard armor lol
okuma0kuma 2 years ago 2
why are they heating the bullet with a heat gun?
chuckno8 2 years ago
to show the effects of more long range...
rsdie1988 2 years ago
more long range?
more air friction=hotter bullet?
does that actually make a big difference?
bestSVMS 2 years ago
They go very far in a short amount of time, meaning that they collide with air at around 900 km an hour. I'd say that it would get a shitload of friction, and since friction warms things, yes they do get hot.
r3573r 2 years ago
This looks like crap. Not stopping shit.
Proletariat12 2 years ago
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kabkabk 2 years ago
insomma cinegri
donvidol 2 years ago
i can tell they are singaporean...cisco plus the singlish they use
devilcarnate 2 years ago
are they indian??
serpentphoenix 2 years ago
AzN
chaozbladex 2 years ago
sounds like singaporeans.
clementchew 2 years ago
1 2 tree.
donz899 2 years ago 2
2:03
donz899 2 years ago
the olan isnt to use it as a total body armormor, just around the arms and legs in places that u dont hav NE armor. so instead of geting shot in the arm or leg u just break it or get HUGE bruises
Roark1234567890 2 years ago
most of the time BODYARMOUR only gives you a bruise' that is the most that bodyarmour can do "OVER 44mm" of force could cause injury but NIJ has too be least then 44mm too pass the blunt truma test.
TerroristLarryPhillp 2 years ago
44mm ? that is 4,4 cm, I think u mean 44. cal !
airgunwarrior 2 years ago
44mm of blunt truma this means of "DEFORMATION" this means that clay thing they had that acted as the human body that took LESS then 44mm of blunt truma.
and threw out this vedio they used 9mm x 19 hydro flex is not N.I.J. certified becuase it has no LEVEL of protection and plus full bodyarmor uses products like (DSM DeYEMMA) becuase its more thinner then ARAMIDS.
and i do not mean (44.mag)
i mean't 44mm like on a ruler. lol.
you would need less then 44mm too pass N.I.J. testing.
TerroristLarryPhillp 2 years ago
you won't have massive injury if its less then 44mm of blunt truma you would have no or lil truma injury this means it would feel like a PUNCH and not a HAMMER hiting you.
but hydro flex failed as you saw the hole was over 44mm this caused massive injury.
TerroristLarryPhillp 2 years ago
this is so dumb apsolutly useless and at the begining it looks like an mp5 clip can you imagine anything bigger lmao this alone would break your rib cage, haha how would you even wear this thing, wut you gunna run around with a bag taped to you lmao
drakeaengland 3 years ago
its lighter and more flexible than fucking steel. you could put normal body armor overtop.
nleboe 2 years ago 2
steel is not used in softbodyarmor so don't even relay it on that.
softboydarmor that covers legs and arms uses DSM DEYMENNA or LEVEL III-B aka X-2 pinnacle armor system too stop AP PIsTOL threats and high veotity SUBS. like 4.6cal and 5.7cal
TerroristLarryPhillp 2 years ago
...its not a bag you wear, its the material...since its very maleable you can essentially line this is any piece of armor/gear. Like Roark said instead of getting shot in exposed limbs that normally arent covered by armor, you'd get a bruise or a broken limb.
mmddkk 2 years ago
hydro flex FAILED and it suppose too be the bag inside a CARRIER other shell panel.
and yes most LEG and ARM protection is LEVEL III-A but some like Polyethyelene plates are used too stop RIFLE ROUNDS such as 5.56mm x 45 and 7.62mm x 39
so if i was anybody i wouldnt wear HYDRO FLEX becuase it is no good and FAILED N.I.J. testing and it would not break your rib cage because you would be wearing it on your "LEGS AND ARMS" and it went over 44mm of deformation so it FAILED N.I.J. DUMB ASASINS
TerroristLarryPhillp 2 years ago
wht if tht hole in the green shit was ur ribs or lungs ? >.> stupid gooses
xDontFaintx 3 years ago
That's just funny. From spare rib tips to armor that cracks your ribs in half. No, i don't think so.
dankeschone 3 years ago
RUBBISH!
eggy0999 3 years ago
now shooted bullet no. 3 ...:)
jabbaboy 3 years ago
omg i can tell their from singapore... hear their accent!!!
ryanrenesis 3 years ago
haha ya ...im a malaysian chinese ..haha they spoke their " sing-lish "
Hoyenwey 3 years ago
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ur crews' english sucks-
singaporepeople 3 years ago
well theyre obviously not english are they you dumb shit
lukphonp 3 years ago 9
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son of a bitch
singaporepeople 3 years ago
@singaporepeople you know im right :P
lukphonp 1 year ago
Doh is called Plastilina clay, at 40 degrees C, its for measuring backface, the yellow skin you talked about is the armour.
And for the Dragon Skin guys out there, bulk is the main problem with mobility.
For Level 5 guys, that is called the ESAPI or Enhanced Small Arms Protective Insert, its 8.5mm of full 3.2 density Silicon Carbide with 9.9kg/m2 density of Polyethylene UD fabrics as the spall lining. What polymer glues it together is PU
normanlimdo 3 years ago
Indoor range In Singapore??? WHERE????!!!
FlammingFart 3 years ago
there is no glue? in the disk ceramic. it's all laryer up and snitched. the probelm is the angle shots but you can easyiey just put a IV-A plate.
TerroristLarryPhillp 3 years ago
lol
RUMPLEF0RESK1N 3 years ago
hell this is horrible, why not just use dragon skin (yes i know the military banned it but some troops still get to use it for special missions or protecting v.i.p.s)
emodude123123 3 years ago 2
Dragon skin is horrible and needs major revisions. The reason why it was banned by the US Army is because the glue holding the scales together breaks up in the middle east's high heat. Solve that problem it it will be excellent.
tattat44 3 years ago
sew it in?
emodude123123 3 years ago
Apparently in the level 5II and up (Military grade) the plates are held together by some kind of plastic or polymer (The feds won't let them release the specs *irony*) and when the over 120+ daytime temprature for six hours gets to it its about as effective as Elmers.
tattat44 3 years ago
sew the plates in or something? i would, also i bet level 4 would beat normal armor, reciever is totaly shit
emodude123123 3 years ago
Its is not shit by any stretch, but it can't take powerful hits and it can't take repeated hits. The only problem with dragon skin is the adhesive. Sewing it together would compromise plate strength, the enemy would only have to hit the stitching and plates would fall off. But once we nail the adhesive, it will work wonders, especially in a real war.
tattat44 3 years ago
....where are you getting this info from???? who are you and how would you know this?
uknighter 3 years ago