Why is it only the USA who are still living in the Dark Ages & are still even discussing whether to teach the facts of evolution or the outdated creation myth? I'm so glad that my children are not growing up over there & being misinformed.
I don't even knw why there should be a debate. Religions are all different from around the world, and not every child in the public school will follow the same religion. At least with science, it's the same no matter where you go. It's consistent while religion is not. I actually think teaching religion in school is good, where children can learn about different kinds of beliefs and practices, but teaching one specific one and calling it the 'truth', then that's bad.
I agree with her proposed solution but disagree with her describing it as two points of view as though they are equal. Evolution is a reasoned explanation supported by ever increasing evidence whilst creationism is a bronze age myth competing with a plethora of competing myths.
Omfg. Why not debate whether people should teach their kids that the earth is flat or round. It is really scary that a country with such a large stock of nuclear amunition has so many nutjobs who even debate whether they should teach their kids creationism.
Science class is for SCIENCE. 1987's Edwards v. Aguillard ruled that Creationism was science and 2005's Tammy Kitzmiller, et al. v. Dover Area School District, et al, ruled that Intelligent Design is both a renaming of Creationism and, as such, NOT science, therefore neither should be taught in science classes.
In America we have a creation "museum", I happen to live about 20 minutes from it. If I'm not mistaken, Darwin is on one of your pound notes. Quite the disparity lol
"perhaps it should be taught in religion class, not science"
So public schools should have religion classes now, which teach religion? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to take the class and utterly destroy all the nonsensical claims, but shouldn't public schools be devoted to things like...uhhhh...education?
@flylike1 The sad and slippery part of the evolution issue is it’s taught as if it’s fact and the fact is it’s is still JUST a theory. So if you say you believe evolution is how we got here then you must use faith, to use faith makes it religion not science. State sponsored religion no less.
"you say you believe evolution is how we got here "
Evolution is as much a fact as gravity, cells, atoms, germs, plate tectonics, and relativity. Organisms that reproduce with variation are subject to the mechanisms that have been proven to drive evolution. This is a very basic biological fact. If you do not accept evolution, you cannot possibly understand biology in the least.
Natural Selection, Adaptation, Mutation, Gene Flow, Genetic Drift- just a few of the things you should understand
@MiloPepper The word 'theory' in science conveys different meaning than the same word in everyday language. In Science, for something to be called a 'theory', it must have considerable experimental (where possible) or otherwise observed evidence to back it up. Until then, it is just a 'hypothesis'. The argument of evolution being "just a theory" to detract from its validity was NEVER valid and was ALWAYS just a misinterpretation of the scientific usage of the word by critics.
"Did we descend from Ape-like ancestors, or Adam and Eve?"
Hmmm 5 seconds in and there's already a logical fallacy. It's called a false dichotomy.
An ape-like ancestor branched into what would become Homo sapiens, which would of course eventually give rise to the vast and diverse human population of today.
So, to answer your question, (referring to Adam and Eve as the first humans biologically, not the dirtman+magic and ribwoman+magic) both.
Ms. Couric may be right. A scientist has no right dictating what is taught in a religion class. They can teach any crazy notion. Just stay out of the science classroom!
This absolutely blows my mind that this imaginary debate still exists among us simple folk....THERE IS NO DEBATE BETWEEN EVOLUTION AND CREATIONISM!! Just circular arguments from creationists....
A quote that has always stuck with me is ...."Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer.
@DayneAW I agree and disagree. I agree because I think the two have overlapping truth and I think a lot of religious text is metaphorical at times... From the Christian perspective I think even Jesus said he spoke in metaphors or parable on purpose. So even if there are differences on the literal text the main idea is still the same or similar and maybe the text was not translated right. Anyawy I disagree in that evolution and the bible seem to have some differences
Practically all of it is metaphorical because it's a story, one of the greatest stories ever written. Very little of it is actually historically accurate if any of it is....There's no legitimate evidence to support a man named Jesus of Nazareth ever actually existed and the whole purpose of the Bible was to have a written document to support the goal of mass population control, which it worked...
@DayneAW it seems to me that the pro-evolutionary argument is reductionist. While it is fine for a theory to be reductionist, I find it dubious to assert that it is applied to everything. I am not saying it is not true but I am not saying it is true either. I think Max Plank had a point when he wrote "the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: 'Ye must have faith.' " to BELIEVE in evolution takes faith, doesnt it?
You're viewing evolution and science as entities, they are not, they're processes that involve progression...a never-ending progression...I never really understood some people's innate desire to HAVE to know the answer without putting any effort into searching for it then say "well since you don't have the exact explanation then God did it..."
The absolute only component to evolution that involves 'faith' is the prediction of our next step in evolution. SOME try to keep evolving.
@DayneAW It seems like you are implying that I am the type of guy you are refering to and further are trying to put words in my mouth. I disagree with your last post. I never said God did it, and I never said he didnt. Who is to say that evolution did "it"? have you personally seen evolution occur? Anyone can claim a theory is true, but have you yourself tested any of them? No need to get defensive mate, Im just trying to discuss the topic at hand.
I'm sorry if I seemed defensive, I wasn't trying to be...Evolution through adaptations occur over time and yes I see them everyday and the outcomes they produce. As part of defining and establishing a theory, it needs to be demonstrable and testable via the peer review. What I see in my career is the effects of having clothes on and wearing shoes over the past millenia and it's effect on our well-being and performance....
...the prevalence of foot related injuries can be traced to having our feet lay dormant in shoes....if you look into, from a evolutionary perspective, how blacks (those of african decent), not all, tend to have enhanced performance in athletics can be traced to the maintenance of a more primitive culture in their ancestry for a longer period of time (sounds racist but isn't meant to be)...we can observe bacterial and viral adaptations to drugs, vaccines, environmental changes, etc
that's the point of research,...the only thing I can tell someone if their want to "know" anything, is do the research, find out for yourself, and the sources need to be secular and non-biased in natured, which is difficult to find but IS there....Part of the process of science i the discovery and weeding out the falsehoods to progress....if the falsehoods aren't weeded out, then we can't progress at the optimal speed....imagine what the world would be like without religion...
those that attempted to progress our species were burned at the stake, those that even questioned within the religion were killed (guy who translated the bible to english).....The only role of religion in the past 2000 years has been to slow our progression and impede science, that's it..what other options are there for the explanation of our origin? we HAVE to take what is presented to us in reality, analyze, study it, test it, and figure WHY it happens..we go nowhere if we don't
don't worry Americans, there are 3 billions Indian and Chinese out there who are not bound by your superstitions and they are chomping at the bit to take your place as the leader in biological technological industries. Soon your offspring will be technologically illiterate and you will wonder what went wrong.
You can only prove things that are observable, predictable and repeatable. I guess the bones of dead animals can talk and tell you that one of them gave birth to the first batch of bananas.
@blueberryblood101 the debate you refer to is not a debate at all. It is simply intellectuals trying to explain science to less intelligent or stubborn people.
Furthermore, high school students have had 14-18 years to solidify their personal views. The job of a teacher is to teach. They present the ideas and whether the student accepts them or not is not up to them. There should be no criticism for teachers who simply present the sides of the debate and let the students think for themselves.
Whether it's Adam and Eve or the coming together of random elements in a primordial soup, we can fight it out. However, "evolution" should not be skipped in science class because the subject that's closly related to it is highly controversial.
the mythical story of adam and eve is nowhere near eqivialent to the current theory abiogeneisis. by no means should adam and eve be taught in schools like it's a 50/50 debate.
Please read this whole comment before you start bashing. Please.
The problem is, "evolution" is often considered the same thing as "origin of life." "Evolution" is the changing of species to better their chances of survival: Darwin's natural selection is the most supported theory in this field. Evolution implies that species are not fixed, they're just winnowing out the genes that aren't helpful.
I do not want my hard-earned tax mony being used to teach the false religion of evolution and atheism in our schools. My little Justin doesn't need to learn all this BS that we are all decencded from monkeys. And dinosar bones were planted by scienitsts in order to try to fool us into believing EVILution. Fuck liberals and fuck scienists.
Well first off their is a clear difference between monkeys and chimps, both are in completely different genuses. Okay, you then state that dinosaur bones were planted?! Are really that naive? Guess what, maybe I don't want my hard earned tax money being used to teach Christian creationism and dogma in the classroom!
What is your expertise that you can say that evolution is bs? Are you a scientist who studies it? Or do you just not like it because facts are conflicting with your religious fairy tales. Fuck scientists? Well, you should just go live in a cave then because every modern convienience around you is made possible by scientific knowledge.
we should just listen to gaty gouric or whatever this wannabe dudes name is. shes a anchor dike..she needs to stfu. this is why i dont watch fox,msnbc etc. fake journalists pretending to know what they are reporting on and throwing their opinion around as if we need it.
when there is a scientific theory that suggest anything besides the theory of evolution be given credit for the vast amount life on this planet then we can have this disscussion. till then you religious nuts have to leave the science to scientist
but i gotta say...even when i disagree, they arent bad.
in this case i do agree...creationism is retarded. yesterday i watched a video where a preacher said dinosaurs lived with adam and eve in the garden of eden...
im gonna fight tooth and nail to not have it taught to my kids. if it is, im leaving the country to die at the hands of fundamentalist christianity and its neandrathal leaders.
@hdtwoodsman i think next horde of muslim creationist will be just as bad as our christians in here. its funny to look our monkeys attacking against their own image in denial. but in the end its just sad.
Haha, good one USA. Go ahead and teach your kids fairy tales, the rest of the world will happily take the lead in science and everything that comes with it. Fucking christian retards xD
You can't have it both ways. I hear religious people say man was created just as we are today but in the same breath believe in the evolution of all other animals such as woolly mammoth for example. So I ask them this: If that was the case then how come we didn't have this technology centuries earlier? If man kind was as smart then as they are now then shouldn't we be far more advanced then this by now? Isn't the ability to learn a form of Evolution?
Indeed!! Why didn't the french or the British land a man on the moon in the 1700s or even the 1400s. Kind of proves that evolution of the ability to learn is now advancing very rapidly.
There goes that Gotcha Media with their homosexual agenda of pushing socialist fruit-fly research in Paris, France and taking Gawd out of our classrooms as the founding fathers intended in this, our Christian nation, you betcha.
"Darwin's theory of evolution, however, has been DISPROVED by evolutionary scientists." If you believe this, you'll believe anything. Go read a book on fossils.
good sentiment but the last sentence was weak. 1. creationism isn't a theory and 2. creationism should not 'perhaps' be taught as mythology or religion. try 'definitely'.
Couric is wrong. Creationism is not an "alternative theory". That statement represents an ignorance of what a scientific theory actually constitutes. Creationism isn't a theory. It doesn't even meet the definition of a scientific hypothesis. It is religion. It is imagination. No different than the human source of the claim that the "Sandman" leaves that gunk in your eye at night -- only there's no ancient religion or "holy" book standing behind it.
Alternative theory? to what? Couric tries to turn clever spin around the strengthening evidence supporting "intelligent design."
Ask any scientist and he will tell you that in order to advance studies, one must involve in their study biological matter a foundation of intelligent design. Creationism itself has been less clearly defined in the past era's censored and compromised scientific community.
Alternative theory...of human origins. Didn't you listen to the video?
There is NO "strengthening evidence" to ID! It teaches, "God did it." -- period. There's not one iota of empirical evidence of a supernatural creator. ID demonstrated catastrophic failure in the Dover, PA trial and everywhere else it's been challenged. Now, get you credulous mind out of your fantasyland and grow the fuck up!
ha ha ha ha - nobody believes that except a few religious fundamentalists - there are thousands of theories out there, and some people believe them to be sound and worthy of respect, so yes, they believe in them - that doesn't make all theories "Religion" - yoiks!
Evolution is fact. It's a scientific theory, but its fact. Creationists take the word 'theory' to mean that it's not proven, but it is proven beyond doubt.
Whoops - someone should tell the 99% of Western scientists who still believe in evolution - maybe you could call them on the phone - or is the telephone an instrument of the devil?
Darwin's theory of evolution has been improved, but it is still Darwinian evolution. Just like the theory of gravity even though it has been modified and changed is still the theory of gravity.
@robertghouston I believe microevolution has been shown to be fact under a microscope, however I'd like to hear a good argument for macroevolution. While I think it is pretty likely that some kind of macroevolution has occured, however my criticism is this: what is THE "theory of evolution," I think there are more than one theory of evolution. Is "evolution" falsifiable?
I think Ms. Couric makes a compelling point about Religion class (although shes not the first to say such a thing).
It's been 150 years, you tell us...has it been falsified?
That's part of the scientific procedure where the theory is obtained through scientific method then reviewed, tested, more data is collected, changed if need be due to the testing, etc.....If you have doubts about macroevolution, DO THE RESEARCH!!! It's there.....
@DayneAW I am not sure if it can be falsified or in other words that it is falsifiable. None of us were around 100,000 years ago. If it was falsified, than it would have been proven wrong, but if it is a type of thing that cant be proven right or wrong than it is more of a fiction than nonfiction right? Im not an expert in these things... Did Darwin later promote the idea of sexual selection because his original idea of everything by natural selection was false?
I'm not biologist and don't attempt to get into the complexity of it but natural selection is an observable undeniable fact...
As far as falsifying evolution, that's the point of the scientific procedure...once a theory is established it goes through peer review, more data collection, and testing to verify the current data of the theory...that is when it is falsified and evolution being of many different components has had some be falsified and others stand strong....
BUT the big picture of evolution is verified as FACT....There is new data constantly being collected to support the process of evolution...there is no actual debate between creationism and evolution, except at our level of understanding...Us common folk are the only ones arguing about it...Scientists have accepted evolution since the mid 19th century, and the only ones that haven't have been put in their place as being utterly wrong, but continue to argue with christian propaganda
@robertghouston Acctually theory doesnt mean fact it just means that it comes up in favor time after time which would be fact in a way but not true SCIENTIFIC fact but on that note i am an atheist and do believe in the evolutionary theory
What do you know? Evolution has no basis or mechanism so it should never be taught anywhere.
The function of hydrogen working inside of us, when directed, proves that we have a Maker.
All function, working parts and mechanisms always have a maker equal to or greater than whatever is made to work.
JungleJargon 2 weeks ago
Why is it only the USA who are still living in the Dark Ages & are still even discussing whether to teach the facts of evolution or the outdated creation myth? I'm so glad that my children are not growing up over there & being misinformed.
ACCSESS247 4 months ago
I don't even knw why there should be a debate. Religions are all different from around the world, and not every child in the public school will follow the same religion. At least with science, it's the same no matter where you go. It's consistent while religion is not. I actually think teaching religion in school is good, where children can learn about different kinds of beliefs and practices, but teaching one specific one and calling it the 'truth', then that's bad.
musicholickgp 4 months ago
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The function of hydrogen working inside of us proves that we have a Maker.
watch?v=HoKVVYJ8KJM
JungleJargon 4 months ago
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Evolution is an absolute disgrace to science.
Objects never order anything, mutations never order anything and natural selection will only select what has already been ordered.
Evolution is so irrational that it should be removed from all classrooms.
watch?v=HoKVVYJ8KJM
JungleJargon 4 months ago
"A bitter debate is evolving." Evolving. I think that was a subtle fuck you haha.
jimmyconvulsion 4 months ago
I agree with her proposed solution but disagree with her describing it as two points of view as though they are equal. Evolution is a reasoned explanation supported by ever increasing evidence whilst creationism is a bronze age myth competing with a plethora of competing myths.
IEndeavourAlways 5 months ago
Omfg. Why not debate whether people should teach their kids that the earth is flat or round. It is really scary that a country with such a large stock of nuclear amunition has so many nutjobs who even debate whether they should teach their kids creationism.
Iyoulikeyoutoo 6 months ago
Science class is for SCIENCE. 1987's Edwards v. Aguillard ruled that Creationism was science and 2005's Tammy Kitzmiller, et al. v. Dover Area School District, et al, ruled that Intelligent Design is both a renaming of Creationism and, as such, NOT science, therefore neither should be taught in science classes.
HimesInu 6 months ago
evolution should be taught in religion class because it sure isn't science!
fellowservant34 7 months ago
Teach creationism in religious class and make that class optional.
choongd 10 months ago
@choongd Or we could get religion out of public schools and let the religious teach whatever they wish in their own privately funded schools.
HimesInu 6 months ago
oh man im sooo glad i live in the UK!
xolizziox 10 months ago
In America we have a creation "museum", I happen to live about 20 minutes from it. If I'm not mistaken, Darwin is on one of your pound notes. Quite the disparity lol
flylike1 7 months ago
"perhaps it should be taught in religion class, not science"
So public schools should have religion classes now, which teach religion? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to take the class and utterly destroy all the nonsensical claims, but shouldn't public schools be devoted to things like...uhhhh...education?
Methought skools wuz fur lernin nd churches fur religionin.
flylike1 1 year ago
@flylike1 The sad and slippery part of the evolution issue is it’s taught as if it’s fact and the fact is it’s is still JUST a theory. So if you say you believe evolution is how we got here then you must use faith, to use faith makes it religion not science. State sponsored religion no less.
MiloPepper 8 months ago
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"is it’s taught as if it’s fact and the fact is it’s is still JUST a theory. "
Do you know how science works? It appears that you do not know what the definition of THEORY is as it pertains to science.
Here's a list of THEORIES (that you apparently also consider "not facts, JUST theories")
-Gravity
-Atoms
-Germs
-Plate Tectonics
-Relativity
-Cells
flylike1 8 months ago
"you say you believe evolution is how we got here "
Evolution is as much a fact as gravity, cells, atoms, germs, plate tectonics, and relativity. Organisms that reproduce with variation are subject to the mechanisms that have been proven to drive evolution. This is a very basic biological fact. If you do not accept evolution, you cannot possibly understand biology in the least.
Natural Selection, Adaptation, Mutation, Gene Flow, Genetic Drift- just a few of the things you should understand
flylike1 8 months ago 2
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"you must use faith"
Faith is belief without evidence. I have lots of evidence. Here's some:
Homologous Structures, Vestigial Organs, Genone Synteny, Gene Order, Wobble Position Sequence, Intron Sequence, Pseudogene Sequence, Retroviruses, Transposons, Human Chromosome #2, Beneficial Mutations, Molecular Clock, Neanderthal DNA, New Genes, New Structures, Biogeography, Natural Selection, Variation, Stratigraphy, Order of Fossils, Transitional Fossils
flylike1 8 months ago
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dobkayaker 8 months ago
@MiloPepper The word 'theory' in science conveys different meaning than the same word in everyday language. In Science, for something to be called a 'theory', it must have considerable experimental (where possible) or otherwise observed evidence to back it up. Until then, it is just a 'hypothesis'. The argument of evolution being "just a theory" to detract from its validity was NEVER valid and was ALWAYS just a misinterpretation of the scientific usage of the word by critics.
dobkayaker 8 months ago 4
"Students should also be taught opposing views"
Yep. But don't stop in biology plz. What about geology? Some people believe the Earth is flat. Better teach that too.
flylike1 1 year ago
"Did we descend from Ape-like ancestors, or Adam and Eve?"
Hmmm 5 seconds in and there's already a logical fallacy. It's called a false dichotomy.
An ape-like ancestor branched into what would become Homo sapiens, which would of course eventually give rise to the vast and diverse human population of today.
So, to answer your question, (referring to Adam and Eve as the first humans biologically, not the dirtman+magic and ribwoman+magic) both.
flylike1 1 year ago
"alternative THEORY, like creationizm" She failed.
ILIYYILI 1 year ago
Ms. Couric may be right. A scientist has no right dictating what is taught in a religion class. They can teach any crazy notion. Just stay out of the science classroom!
b991228 1 year ago
THERE IS NOT FUCKING DEBATE
xn117 1 year ago
@xn117 how bout it, evolution is fact.
RockLIFE001 1 year ago
Katie, that was lame! I expect better from you!
acme181169 1 year ago
we are apes still to this day and we will always be APES !!!!!!! take that
neoarcadezr 1 year ago
this how news reporting should be. all the facts none of the bullshit. subtle jab at creationism in the end, but still supported by court decisions
danielyeh 1 year ago
Religion is poison, it has to die for mankind to achieve peace and success. Useless superstition has dragged us in the mud for long enough.
bary1234 1 year ago
any REAL chance for peace on earth entails the destruction of religions - not very likely, even in the next couple of millenia
tdjdk 1 year ago
It's just another religiously fanatic scheme to give the impression there is a controversy - There is no controversy.
Evolution is a fact. It's supported by mountains of evidence.
Creation is supported by zero facts.
That's not a controversy, that's just lying for jeebus
tdjdk 1 year ago
This absolutely blows my mind that this imaginary debate still exists among us simple folk....THERE IS NO DEBATE BETWEEN EVOLUTION AND CREATIONISM!! Just circular arguments from creationists....
A quote that has always stuck with me is ...."Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer.
DayneAW 1 year ago
@DayneAW I agree and disagree. I agree because I think the two have overlapping truth and I think a lot of religious text is metaphorical at times... From the Christian perspective I think even Jesus said he spoke in metaphors or parable on purpose. So even if there are differences on the literal text the main idea is still the same or similar and maybe the text was not translated right. Anyawy I disagree in that evolution and the bible seem to have some differences
tubebooboob 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
Practically all of it is metaphorical because it's a story, one of the greatest stories ever written. Very little of it is actually historically accurate if any of it is....There's no legitimate evidence to support a man named Jesus of Nazareth ever actually existed and the whole purpose of the Bible was to have a written document to support the goal of mass population control, which it worked...
DayneAW 1 year ago
@DayneAW it seems to me that the pro-evolutionary argument is reductionist. While it is fine for a theory to be reductionist, I find it dubious to assert that it is applied to everything. I am not saying it is not true but I am not saying it is true either. I think Max Plank had a point when he wrote "the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: 'Ye must have faith.' " to BELIEVE in evolution takes faith, doesnt it?
tubebooboob 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
You're viewing evolution and science as entities, they are not, they're processes that involve progression...a never-ending progression...I never really understood some people's innate desire to HAVE to know the answer without putting any effort into searching for it then say "well since you don't have the exact explanation then God did it..."
The absolute only component to evolution that involves 'faith' is the prediction of our next step in evolution. SOME try to keep evolving.
DayneAW 1 year ago
@DayneAW It seems like you are implying that I am the type of guy you are refering to and further are trying to put words in my mouth. I disagree with your last post. I never said God did it, and I never said he didnt. Who is to say that evolution did "it"? have you personally seen evolution occur? Anyone can claim a theory is true, but have you yourself tested any of them? No need to get defensive mate, Im just trying to discuss the topic at hand.
tubebooboob 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
I'm sorry if I seemed defensive, I wasn't trying to be...Evolution through adaptations occur over time and yes I see them everyday and the outcomes they produce. As part of defining and establishing a theory, it needs to be demonstrable and testable via the peer review. What I see in my career is the effects of having clothes on and wearing shoes over the past millenia and it's effect on our well-being and performance....
DayneAW 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
...the prevalence of foot related injuries can be traced to having our feet lay dormant in shoes....if you look into, from a evolutionary perspective, how blacks (those of african decent), not all, tend to have enhanced performance in athletics can be traced to the maintenance of a more primitive culture in their ancestry for a longer period of time (sounds racist but isn't meant to be)...we can observe bacterial and viral adaptations to drugs, vaccines, environmental changes, etc
DayneAW 1 year ago
@DayneAW in other words how do you know that you actually know what you think you know? How do you know what you think you know isnt false?
tubebooboob 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
that's the point of research,...the only thing I can tell someone if their want to "know" anything, is do the research, find out for yourself, and the sources need to be secular and non-biased in natured, which is difficult to find but IS there....Part of the process of science i the discovery and weeding out the falsehoods to progress....if the falsehoods aren't weeded out, then we can't progress at the optimal speed....imagine what the world would be like without religion...
DayneAW 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
those that attempted to progress our species were burned at the stake, those that even questioned within the religion were killed (guy who translated the bible to english).....The only role of religion in the past 2000 years has been to slow our progression and impede science, that's it..what other options are there for the explanation of our origin? we HAVE to take what is presented to us in reality, analyze, study it, test it, and figure WHY it happens..we go nowhere if we don't
DayneAW 1 year ago
Katie does not just have nice legs but a good head as well.
mamushi72sai5575 1 year ago
we are Muslim from Texas ready to behead those who are going to pass the bill that require schools to teach Evolutions.
samgee2007 1 year ago
don't worry Americans, there are 3 billions Indian and Chinese out there who are not bound by your superstitions and they are chomping at the bit to take your place as the leader in biological technological industries. Soon your offspring will be technologically illiterate and you will wonder what went wrong.
stoltobot 1 year ago 5
You can only prove things that are observable, predictable and repeatable. I guess the bones of dead animals can talk and tell you that one of them gave birth to the first batch of bananas.
darien811 1 year ago
@blueberryblood101 the debate you refer to is not a debate at all. It is simply intellectuals trying to explain science to less intelligent or stubborn people.
ashman102 2 years ago
Furthermore, high school students have had 14-18 years to solidify their personal views. The job of a teacher is to teach. They present the ideas and whether the student accepts them or not is not up to them. There should be no criticism for teachers who simply present the sides of the debate and let the students think for themselves.
blueberryblood101 2 years ago
So, a history teacher should present the "the holocost was a lie" side and let the students think for themselves?
wendighoul 1 year ago
If it is an important part of history, then I believe yes.
blueberryblood101 1 year ago
"Origin of Life" is the controversy.
Whether it's Adam and Eve or the coming together of random elements in a primordial soup, we can fight it out. However, "evolution" should not be skipped in science class because the subject that's closly related to it is highly controversial.
blueberryblood101 2 years ago
@blueberryblood101
the mythical story of adam and eve is nowhere near eqivialent to the current theory abiogeneisis. by no means should adam and eve be taught in schools like it's a 50/50 debate.
itzahazylife 1 year ago 2
Please read this whole comment before you start bashing. Please.
The problem is, "evolution" is often considered the same thing as "origin of life." "Evolution" is the changing of species to better their chances of survival: Darwin's natural selection is the most supported theory in this field. Evolution implies that species are not fixed, they're just winnowing out the genes that aren't helpful.
blueberryblood101 2 years ago 2
CSE all the way.
jasonscfr 2 years ago
That's so funny it's sad.
TheGodWhisperer 2 years ago
I do not want my hard-earned tax mony being used to teach the false religion of evolution and atheism in our schools. My little Justin doesn't need to learn all this BS that we are all decencded from monkeys. And dinosar bones were planted by scienitsts in order to try to fool us into believing EVILution. Fuck liberals and fuck scienists.
Wanda4DecentValues 2 years ago
Well first off their is a clear difference between monkeys and chimps, both are in completely different genuses. Okay, you then state that dinosaur bones were planted?! Are really that naive? Guess what, maybe I don't want my hard earned tax money being used to teach Christian creationism and dogma in the classroom!
Clempath 2 years ago
You're a moron, and I suspect you know it.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
Yeah! EVILution!! You see, it's in the name itsself that SATAN invented it to FOOL US!
We must BURN ALL books concerning this PAGAN BLASPHEMY
Oh, I'm being sarcastic. I hope the excessive caps made me look like a decent internet retard
brambo3636 2 years ago
i cant tell if that comment is a joke or not
icedog141 2 years ago
Looks like youve got it all figured out.
Damn looks like my dinosaur bone factory is gonna get shut down :(
digitised 2 years ago
What is your expertise that you can say that evolution is bs? Are you a scientist who studies it? Or do you just not like it because facts are conflicting with your religious fairy tales. Fuck scientists? Well, you should just go live in a cave then because every modern convienience around you is made possible by scientific knowledge.
georgetcr 2 years ago 3
Fucking katie couric, god I hate her.
Creationism taught in religion class and not science?! Duh.
COUGHmcCOUGH 2 years ago
I`m in love with that person.
sheilacow 2 years ago
we should just listen to gaty gouric or whatever this wannabe dudes name is. shes a anchor dike..she needs to stfu. this is why i dont watch fox,msnbc etc. fake journalists pretending to know what they are reporting on and throwing their opinion around as if we need it.
matthew4307 2 years ago
............ you do know she said evolution shouldn't be considered science right?
diomedes39 2 years ago
the second coming of jesus will co-incide with the zombie uprising.
Pyroglyphikz 2 years ago
the second cumming of Jesus will result in orgasm.
NaxDram 2 years ago
and thus the lord bequeath his seed unto those who he deems worthy.
and she loved it
Pyroglyphikz 2 years ago
I love how places like the Discovery Institute fuck up our public school systems
MisterSelatcia 2 years ago
our country is fucked
elea1885 2 years ago 5
ok i think i just became a racist
AMERICANS ARE FUCKING STUPID
in europe we wouldn't even think of discussing the topic: FAITH vs. SCIENCE
SteilAmSeil 2 years ago
Yeah our country fucking sucks.
WatanukiProductions 2 years ago
We're not all that stupid- I promise. I'm fairly sure some of us are Europeans stuck in American bodies. >.>
Blackhorn6 2 years ago
Oh please. Trust me, there are just as many stupid Europeans as stupid Americans. Yes, proportionally.
MaximusRelaximus 2 years ago
there is no way i came from a monkey...evolution is a lie... it is an athiest conispiracy...bud God did tell me that he doesn't exist ....
alador2212 2 years ago
lol
Blackhorn6 2 years ago
Poor Texas. Don McLeroy and the other creationists want to take the state education system back 100 years.
Evolution is the foundation of modern biology. Read a book.
I wonder if McLeroy and other Biblical literalists think the Earth is flat too?
"The earth takes shape like clay under a seal." (Job 38:14)
"take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it (Job 38:12-13)
g12er 2 years ago
100, psss 2000
THADI0US 2 years ago
Fuck it let em teach that shit the smart people will ignore it and they will learn evolution through natural selection ...
BobAnonSmith 2 years ago 3
when there is a scientific theory that suggest anything besides the theory of evolution be given credit for the vast amount life on this planet then we can have this disscussion. till then you religious nuts have to leave the science to scientist
breeze28 2 years ago 5
"Did we descend from ape-like ancestors..."
Not only do we need to purge imaginary sky gods from our science classes, we also need to better educate out talking heads.
It's a simple, objective fact that not only are we descended from apes, but we are apes.
mistergarth 2 years ago 4
i used to make fun of these "notebooks"
but i gotta say...even when i disagree, they arent bad.
in this case i do agree...creationism is retarded. yesterday i watched a video where a preacher said dinosaurs lived with adam and eve in the garden of eden...
im gonna fight tooth and nail to not have it taught to my kids. if it is, im leaving the country to die at the hands of fundamentalist christianity and its neandrathal leaders.
mcalien24 2 years ago 11
Onward, Christian Retards!
hdtwoodsman 2 years ago 42
@hdtwoodsman lol
stoltobot 1 year ago
@hdtwoodsman i think next horde of muslim creationist will be just as bad as our christians in here. its funny to look our monkeys attacking against their own image in denial. but in the end its just sad.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
@hdtwoodsman LOL, so good!
whiltetodayitisme 7 months ago
Haha, good one USA. Go ahead and teach your kids fairy tales, the rest of the world will happily take the lead in science and everything that comes with it. Fucking christian retards xD
lornloxor 2 years ago 3
You can't have it both ways. I hear religious people say man was created just as we are today but in the same breath believe in the evolution of all other animals such as woolly mammoth for example. So I ask them this: If that was the case then how come we didn't have this technology centuries earlier? If man kind was as smart then as they are now then shouldn't we be far more advanced then this by now? Isn't the ability to learn a form of Evolution?
lordcron 2 years ago
Indeed!! Why didn't the french or the British land a man on the moon in the 1700s or even the 1400s. Kind of proves that evolution of the ability to learn is now advancing very rapidly.
GuitarSpeller 2 years ago
Creationism ISN"T a THEORY. It's a hypothesis.
Evolution is a Theory.
Runindoe 2 years ago
It's not even a hypothesis... there's no way to test it at all because it's based in the supernatural.
bhig3 2 years ago
evolution is a fact...the other is a story written by a bunch of control freaks.
spareaxe 2 years ago 3
evolution is no longer a theory!
they only say its a theory to avoid offending childish simpletons.
Gilgamesh387 2 years ago
Evolution is a theory so is gravity, atomic theory, and so on.
A theory in science means a unified system of facts.
Why don't the creationist doubt the Universal Theory of Gravity too? Why don't they doubt atoms too?
g12er 2 years ago 3
There goes that Gotcha Media with their homosexual agenda of pushing socialist fruit-fly research in Paris, France and taking Gawd out of our classrooms as the founding fathers intended in this, our Christian nation, you betcha.
Also, I kid you not.
tehinfidel 2 years ago
twas me sorry
hotae333 2 years ago
Katie Couric, you just won youself a new fan!
jeffcordell 2 years ago 2
Creationism is not a science, it is a religious belief! Keep it out of the science classes, teach it in a religion class.
B4TT3RY 2 years ago
Go read a book about Darwin's theory of evolution post-19th century.
xenzuva 2 years ago
"Darwin's theory of evolution, however, has been DISPROVED by evolutionary scientists." If you believe this, you'll believe anything. Go read a book on fossils.
robertghouston 2 years ago
Sorry, Kate. Time to fly a kite.
xenzuva 2 years ago
not only creationism has no place in a science class if they teach it in a religion class they should say its an allegory just a made up story.
renofury 2 years ago 2
good sentiment but the last sentence was weak. 1. creationism isn't a theory and 2. creationism should not 'perhaps' be taught as mythology or religion. try 'definitely'.
toomanytribbles 2 years ago 4
Couric is wrong. Creationism is not an "alternative theory". That statement represents an ignorance of what a scientific theory actually constitutes. Creationism isn't a theory. It doesn't even meet the definition of a scientific hypothesis. It is religion. It is imagination. No different than the human source of the claim that the "Sandman" leaves that gunk in your eye at night -- only there's no ancient religion or "holy" book standing behind it.
JesusSavesAtCitibank 2 years ago 6
Alternative theory? to what? Couric tries to turn clever spin around the strengthening evidence supporting "intelligent design."
Ask any scientist and he will tell you that in order to advance studies, one must involve in their study biological matter a foundation of intelligent design. Creationism itself has been less clearly defined in the past era's censored and compromised scientific community.
xenzuva 2 years ago
Alternative theory...of human origins. Didn't you listen to the video?
There is NO "strengthening evidence" to ID! It teaches, "God did it." -- period. There's not one iota of empirical evidence of a supernatural creator. ID demonstrated catastrophic failure in the Dover, PA trial and everywhere else it's been challenged. Now, get you credulous mind out of your fantasyland and grow the fuck up!
JesusSavesAtCitibank 2 years ago 2
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Where did you get your education? As long as people "believe" in a theory, that will be their religion.
Darwin's Theory of Evolution has been disproved by evolutionary biologists.
xenzuva 2 years ago
ha ha ha ha - nobody believes that except a few religious fundamentalists - there are thousands of theories out there, and some people believe them to be sound and worthy of respect, so yes, they believe in them - that doesn't make all theories "Religion" - yoiks!
davis80smusic 2 years ago
havnt you heard? anything with moving parts comes from the devil
chunkybutt420 2 years ago
well said katie
MulcheArcade 2 years ago 3
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The same science helped bring about the credit crisis. CBS has a lot to answer for.
xenzuva 2 years ago
Huh? Science is challengeable and reproducible. Religion is neither.
spamvigilante 2 years ago 2
CBS has a lot to answer for. From the global econo crisis to promotion of war of state-sponsored terrorism, CBS has a lot to answer for.
xenzuva 2 years ago
Evolution is fact. It's a scientific theory, but its fact. Creationists take the word 'theory' to mean that it's not proven, but it is proven beyond doubt.
robertghouston 2 years ago 17
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"Evolution is a fact." Only uneducated people can play with words like that. Of course evolution is a fact, who was disputing that?
Darwin's theory of evolution, however, has been DISPROVED by evolutionary scientists. Get your records straight!
xenzuva 2 years ago
Whoops - someone should tell the 99% of Western scientists who still believe in evolution - maybe you could call them on the phone - or is the telephone an instrument of the devil?
davis80smusic 2 years ago 3
Darwin's theory of evolution has been improved, but it is still Darwinian evolution. Just like the theory of gravity even though it has been modified and changed is still the theory of gravity.
nospacesallowed 2 years ago
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tubebooboob 1 year ago
@robertghouston I believe microevolution has been shown to be fact under a microscope, however I'd like to hear a good argument for macroevolution. While I think it is pretty likely that some kind of macroevolution has occured, however my criticism is this: what is THE "theory of evolution," I think there are more than one theory of evolution. Is "evolution" falsifiable?
I think Ms. Couric makes a compelling point about Religion class (although shes not the first to say such a thing).
tubebooboob 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
It's been 150 years, you tell us...has it been falsified?
That's part of the scientific procedure where the theory is obtained through scientific method then reviewed, tested, more data is collected, changed if need be due to the testing, etc.....If you have doubts about macroevolution, DO THE RESEARCH!!! It's there.....
DayneAW 1 year ago
@DayneAW I am not sure if it can be falsified or in other words that it is falsifiable. None of us were around 100,000 years ago. If it was falsified, than it would have been proven wrong, but if it is a type of thing that cant be proven right or wrong than it is more of a fiction than nonfiction right? Im not an expert in these things... Did Darwin later promote the idea of sexual selection because his original idea of everything by natural selection was false?
tubebooboob 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
I'm not biologist and don't attempt to get into the complexity of it but natural selection is an observable undeniable fact...
As far as falsifying evolution, that's the point of the scientific procedure...once a theory is established it goes through peer review, more data collection, and testing to verify the current data of the theory...that is when it is falsified and evolution being of many different components has had some be falsified and others stand strong....
DayneAW 1 year ago
@tubebooboob
BUT the big picture of evolution is verified as FACT....There is new data constantly being collected to support the process of evolution...there is no actual debate between creationism and evolution, except at our level of understanding...Us common folk are the only ones arguing about it...Scientists have accepted evolution since the mid 19th century, and the only ones that haven't have been put in their place as being utterly wrong, but continue to argue with christian propaganda
DayneAW 1 year ago
@robertghouston Acctually theory doesnt mean fact it just means that it comes up in favor time after time which would be fact in a way but not true SCIENTIFIC fact but on that note i am an atheist and do believe in the evolutionary theory
LonghairedGiraffe 1 year ago
I love you Couric!
Doazic 2 years ago