Im a 2handed bowler, and i have been it whole my life, when i was around 9-10 years old, I wanted to learn to throw the ball with one arm. But then my coach told me about Jason Belmonté and Osku Palermaa. I want to thank My coach and Jason/osku, without them i would not be the bowler i am today (sry for my english) :)
@Superbowler08 It is mostly considered a sport since you use strength and exert your body, a game is something that doesn't requite physical exertion to any extreme.
@sonadid They are not there to help him lift, they are there to make the ball legal. lol. lift is not necessary anymore in bowling, and has actually been labeled as bad. watch the way he lays the ball down. it lands like an airplane, smoothly. there is nothing in the air in bowling, so why would you want to lift the ball? thanks for the vid!
@harrypter123 he uses finger holes to get the revolutions he needs, but he has no thumb hole, his left arm is used like the thumb which gives him the support and accuracy he needs.
@harrypter123 As noted, finger holes needed to lift ball. As far as the bowl itself, Belmonte uses just two of the holes. His thumb is not in the thumb hole when he bowls.
Nope, he isn't. This is not a mystery, Belmonte's style has been discussed and debated by many. Check around the web and you can verify. Even in this video, if you watch, you can clearly see his thumb flat against the ball upon windup and release.
I bowl with two hands and ive done it since i was 3 just came natural and I bowled my first 300 recently im only 17 still Lots of more room to improve.
i just love the fact that ppl are talkin about two handed bowling and what not, do whatever's comfortable but all in all, this is a vid of belmo losing to a one handed bowler. one hand FTW!
2 hands are actually better then 1 since you can throw faster with more rotation and with lots of practice comes accuracy. i raised my average 30 pins by bowling with 2 hands and not thinking about going back to 1h xD
and another thing if you notice he is only using his left hand to keep the ball from falling he basically bowls 1 handed he just keeps his hand there for support
i dont know who your usbc coach is but he obviousley wants you to throw your arm out and also to the people saying 2 hands are better than 1 no its not and you actually get better rotation on the ball using one hand not two
its not recomended to even throw with two hands or two fingers i was told many times not to do it by my coachs dave husted and jeff combs yes one of my coaches was dave husted lol but yah they told me not to do it
well i'll be honest, im 13 years old i started at the start of 2007 and i carry a 160 average with a high game of 232, i am more so a spare shooter, i can nearly spare any straight forward spare.
I've reached a 190-195 average and my younger brother bowls two-handed and I can tell you from my own experience with the style that it's definately not one to be underestimated. I can't get the hang of two handed bowling myself and if its so easy to get strikes with two hands then every bowler on the PBA would switch to a two-handed delivery the fact is you bowl however you feel comfortable bowling, there are people who bowl backwards for christ sakes that could out bowl most people commenting
Myth: two-handed style has no future, requires no skill, is lousy
Fact: two-handed style has a larger margin of error on some lanes due to higher power and rev. However it has the cost of making the ball harder to control and throw consistently, while employing the entire body's muscles intead of just the arm.
@JEEPMAN1195 I'm with you man! I am not two-handed, but I have so much respect for the athleticism it takes to bowl with two hands, i've tried in practice for fun, and barely broke 150 lol
@wiiman0001 no one respected me when i first started two handed i told them to just let me bowl i pay my league fees and now im in 1st place and have held that for the last 12 weeks and they figured out that im right and their wrong my average went from 180 to a 208 in 3 weeks and they tell me its stupied
@JEEPMAN1195 see I have no problem with it, for me when conditions are dry, i move to the outside and throw it slow to give it enough time to hook, if its oily i stay in my normal spot and just throw it faster so my ball doesn't hook as much, we ALL do things to change our game to our advantage, and two handed bowling is exactly that, is a new form of bowling that has swept thru the bowling world. Sorry those one handers are jerks, we're not all like that. Congrats on your success! Keep it up!
@JEEPMAN1195 me too! but i still dont get much respect in my youth league even though im the top and a 200+ average bowler. just gotta prove them wrong on the score board i guess.
@zzzzzzzz231 requires no skill? Try bowling against Jason Belmonte or Osku Palermaa and see who beats who. I am not two-handed but have some respect for those who are excelling at this sport. Who is the number #1 bowler in the PBA right now???......Jason Belmonte is!
@jakeg111222333 Dude, you are fucking blind or suck at English too much to understand what "Myth" is. As are countless other posters on this video. I am merely debunking mistaken assumptions about two-handed bowling, being a two-handed bowler myself. Please read carefully ya fucking idiots. Apparently most posters can't differentiate between "Myth" and "Fact". Let me show you an example of a Myth: You have a six-inch dick. Let me show you an example of a Fact: You have a three-inch dick. _|_
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i personally dont like two handed style. to me it makes bowling just look like a stupid play game. people dont take it serious if people bowl two handed. and sry jason but the two handed style is not bowling of the furture. since two handed has so much power it takes way less skill to get a strike. anyone can get a strike two handed. it takes real skill to get one one handed.
Haha I couldn't get a strike two handed, but I agree, two handed style is probably not the future, but it does keep bowling a little bit more interesting, don't you think?
Honestly, one or two handed bowling doesnt matter. It's not any easier or any harder to bowl two handed. It is not hard to be consistent bowling two handed. People just don't try it because it "looks more professional one handed"
he's just a good player,,, he even won on the PBA tour,, bowling is a sport about knocking the pins down,, no mater how u do it..so get over it tata966
hahaha r u serious? its a technique. by exaggerating it like that, its like your accusing ppl who use different techniques of cheating. take tennis for example. techniques and materials have changed over the years and made winning hits change from around 60 mph hits to 90 mph hits or higher. is it cheating and demeaning the sport? of course not. is it cheating to use 2 hands on a racket? of course not. ur thinking way too traditional and one dimensional.
Your analogies and examples are oversimplistic and erroneous. No insult, but I don't think you're capable of wrapping your mind around the essence of what I'm conveying to you.
exactly how r they oversimplistic? uve never provided any actual flaws in my arguement. your trying to say that skill and talent only comes from one handed bowling and its a travesty to bowl differently. ur not that hard to understand. traditional has its own merits but improving on it is just natural. and ur last comment doesnt counter anything. all uve basically sed is "ur rong, im rite. im rite cuz u dont understand my feelings" =P. seriously.cmon.u gotta do better than that
You're an idiot. Pointing out the flaws in your argument is pointless because there are so many -- two-handed bowling is essentially cheating because it is outside the scope of what bowling is intended to be.
and who are you to judge this "scope" of wut bowling is. did u create bowling? no u didnt. and im tired of idiots like you who say that ther r sooo many reasons im rong but point out no flaws. o i noe, its pointless well thats just like saying "your wrong, im rite, cuz i am". n that just makes you a 5 year old. such a freakin troll. =P
honestky it really doesnt matter dude, i completely agree with you but its not worth getting upset over because the fact is that two-handers are never going to go anywhere anyway
I understand that new ideas frighten most humans. The two handed style does require skill. While revs and speed do help, accuracy is what is most important in bowling. It is very difficult to be consistently accurate when using the two handed style. You obviously have limited to no experience with what you are talking about. That fact must be quite embarrassing in hindsight.
Keep your sweeping, base assumptions about the majority of individuals to yourself- It makes you look less than intelligent. You also are dead wrong when postulating that accuracy is high with this form of "bowling". The dynamics of hi-rev ball-spin bowling and resultant pin interaction makes it much easier to bowl high scores with less accuracy. Go educate yourself in simple physics as well as in extensive, long-term experience in bowling. Then feel your own hindsight embarrassment.
And, btw, If you want to talk about accuracy, go watch a number of Earl Anthony videos. He was the definition of an accuracy-based bowler- And he did it without utilizing auxiliary methods or equipment to improve his game.
If you read my comment instead of skimming, you would see that I didn't postulate high accuracy. I am a mechanical engineer, so I don't need any education in dynamics. You are wrong to assume that those factors make bowling easier overall. The two handed bowler can't just hit anywhere around the pocket and get a strike. The revs and speed make the ball harder to control and ultimately harder to stay consistent. So your theory that the style doesn't take skill is incorrect.
I'll tell you what is unintelligent. Making definitive convictions about something with which you have no experience. Saying such things as "The was bowling was intended to be". You know nothing about the true intentions of bowling, if there were any other than a ball being thrown down a lane by a person. Do you have a personal relationship with the creator? You sound like a senile old man, angry at the evolving world around him.
Not to harp on the blame the equipment game, but two handed bowling seems like a logical extention of where bowling is going. The physical parameters of the lane have not changed, but the new gear has changed how the pins are knocked down. I, for one, am in favor of going back to single void pin; re:Bill Taylor. I'm fairly certain that ball/pocket placement would be more critical than a high rev shot getting a whiff of the pocket. A lot of high rev players would ping on pins that don't fly.
ive bowled a 795 1 hand a 786 2 handed and 2 300's 2 handed. Been bowling both ways since i was 9 and since i don't have all the money in the world sometimes i need the revs or a flatter shot for the conditions w/ 1 ball. It's bowling, not a beauty contest. Ten pins up, ten pins down. -peace
The bottom line is this, watch how the other guy (who WON) bowls. Everything he does is perfect, fundamentally sound and he was flush on every shot. If there is ANY style to emulate here, it's HIS, regardless of how tempting or enticing it might be to some here to bowl like a pansy.
thats stupid. as ppl learn more and evolve, so too are the way we do things. take a look at any sport and compare it to its origin. it still takes skill and talent fool, its just different and modified to produce more results. i suggest you try not to be so conservative.
You're wrong. By using excessive methods that are physically outside the scope of what bowling was intended to be, you are creating an imbalance in the sport that will only degrade or cheapen it. It may take a certain amount of skill to bowl in the high 200's all day, utilizing the two-handed delivery with a juiced-up ball and other maximized factors, but there is no talent involved whatsoever. This will become evident when games in the upper 200's are commonplace and expected.
So if everyone is can become good at the game and enjoy it, it cheapens it? He's got a perfectly normal ball but just has a different delivery. I'm sure one handed bowlers can keep up with him. The two handed method is just a matter of preference. You know how long it took football players to start passing the ball forward? did that break the game? No it changed it for the better. What about a one timer in hockey. This two handed method is exactly like any other sport. It adds more depth.
How many titles has this guy won bowling like a girl? Two in eight years as a pro??? If he had learned how to bowl the RIGHT way, he would probably be more consistent and would win more.
So how many titles have you won? Have you been player of the year ANYWHERE? If you were any good, you would be supportive of other people. But you are obviously bitter about bowling.
Actually, when I was in third grade and I used go bowling, a lot of the other kids my age used to bowl like this because they weren't strong enough to roll with one hand.
All of you guys don't realize the athetic ability it takes to bowl it two handed. You think it is just hooking the ball but its far from that. Your accuracy and speed have to be perfect or you will leave split after split. My best friend bowls two handed and has 35 800's and 50 300's in the past 10 years with the style. Don't hate till you try and find out how much it takes to do it.
its not something you can really teach. i used to bowl like this when i first started up until i was like 10 or 12(now im one of those high backswing kinda crankers..) but its just something that has to come like natural to you. i find it useful and fun since i can pick up basically any ball and make it move. i never bowl like that in league or tournaments though
why is it bad for the sport I see it as the future and here is my reasoning balls are getting more aggressive oil is getting heavier so if guys want to play a ball that doesn't involve 2nd arrow they are gonna have to adapt im actually practicing this style be cause the amount of revs available give more room for error and pin action also i am a very low rev bowler low pin action meaning i have to shoot more perfect shots too try to keep up with high rev bowlers.
agreed. i think its stupid and all the weak kids start doing it without even trying real bowling. wouldnt be surprised if it become illegal in USBC and PBA play in the future cause its just stupid and not REAL bowling. i mean... common, when you go bowling you throw the ball with one hand NOT TWO!
i might not stand where he does, but i throw the same line, same curve, and not as many revolutions as he does, he has 600ish. idk how many i have. i get the same pin action, i hold my ball b4 the approach where he does. he is an outstanding bowler. and i am improving since i switched. and im 18.
I don't mean to sound like an A-- Hole but it's true. This kind of mentality pisses me off more than ever. If you've got talent, you've got talent. By the way, out of curiosity - How many 2 handed professional bowlers have bowled a 300 game? Now I don't know the answer, but if 2 handed bowlers are better, I want some evidence. I'm not going to bother looking yet since you put this on yourself.
all u other guys need to shut up. ive been bowling for 6-7 years, and since ive changed to 2 hands cuz of a minor thumb injury, my scores went up dramatically. ive been bowling with 2 hands for 3 weeks now, and i already had my first 700 series with a 759. i would of never got that with my thumb, and yea i also use 2 fingers as well, my ring finger and my pinkey, cuz of a middle finger injury. and yea, 2 handed bowlers are better. i am more consistant, and i can pick up speed when i need to.
Bull, if you can bowl, you can bowl. Also if you're not a pro, then shut the F*** up, I don't wanna see you type you're wanna be PBA Championship Non-Sense. If you're not a pro, you deserve to keep your mouth shut. There are plenty of people out there only been bowling for 1 year with a 600+ Series.
yea i would love to. If you have actually done that then how come ive never heard of you. 2 900's from a 14 year old?? i can guarentee i would have heard of you if that was true.
He was using his own branded storm spare ball
fwtdDummie 4 months ago
Anyone know what were the oil patterns on these lanes? Belmonte made it look extremely easy for sure...
CSCount44 5 months ago
why are they bowling on 32 and 33
TheQuiggles22 8 months ago
Who ever thinks zzzzzzzz231 is an idiot give me a thumbs up.
narCable 9 months ago
Im a 2handed bowler, and i have been it whole my life, when i was around 9-10 years old, I wanted to learn to throw the ball with one arm. But then my coach told me about Jason Belmonté and Osku Palermaa. I want to thank My coach and Jason/osku, without them i would not be the bowler i am today (sry for my english) :)
poikela12 1 year ago
That is where you are wrong. Bowling is not a SPORT!!!!!! It is a game.
Superbowler08 1 year ago
@Superbowler08 It is mostly considered a sport since you use strength and exert your body, a game is something that doesn't requite physical exertion to any extreme.
Flygon11 10 months ago
Two handed bowling is for pussies and is a complete disgrace to the sport.
MyOscarMeyerIsOnFire 1 year ago
best two handed gripper(is that how you say it?)
who8mahbacon 1 year ago
a PBA bowler at a bowling alley? *gasp*
bahamarama22 1 year ago
ive only being bowling 4 18 months and im a two handed bowler highest score 280
jackytuapou 1 year ago
What patterns are they bowling?
Guibu2 1 year ago
i wonder if he needs finger holes?
harrypter123 1 year ago
@harrypter123
finger holes still needed to lift the ball
sonadid 1 year ago
@sonadid thanks i was wondering that.
harrypter123 1 year ago
@sonadid And to add revolutions.
99fire11 3 months ago
@sonadid They are not there to help him lift, they are there to make the ball legal. lol. lift is not necessary anymore in bowling, and has actually been labeled as bad. watch the way he lays the ball down. it lands like an airplane, smoothly. there is nothing in the air in bowling, so why would you want to lift the ball? thanks for the vid!
CheifOsceola 1 month ago
@harrypter123
He has finger holes he puts in his index and middle finger and leaves the thumb out
Uncfan120290 1 year ago
@harrypter123 he dont use the thumb hole :)
isaksenosterberg 1 year ago
@harrypter123 he uses finger holes to get the revolutions he needs, but he has no thumb hole, his left arm is used like the thumb which gives him the support and accuracy he needs.
wiiman0001 1 year ago
@harrypter123 your retarded!
narCable 1 year ago
@narCable I'm not a 2 handed bowler so...
harrypter123 1 year ago
@harrypter123 he does
brian7521 11 months ago
@harrypter123
Hes def using using all but his thumb.
agratias716 10 months ago
@harrypter123 As noted, finger holes needed to lift ball. As far as the bowl itself, Belmonte uses just two of the holes. His thumb is not in the thumb hole when he bowls.
Faybio 10 months ago
@Faybio
Im almost certain he uses his thumb.
necrocannibal 9 months ago
@necrocannibal
Nope, he isn't. This is not a mystery, Belmonte's style has been discussed and debated by many. Check around the web and you can verify. Even in this video, if you watch, you can clearly see his thumb flat against the ball upon windup and release.
Faybio 9 months ago
@harrypter123 and put more spin
1DanniiBoii6 6 months ago
whats the name of the ball belmonte plays with?
Oliverthornberg2 1 year ago
He lost by 5 pins you stupid douche bags...Wow that is some hard core ownage... GFY one handers.
ChesterMolested 1 year ago
Look at all the advertising, its as bad as nascar !
Nelvin78 1 year ago
I bowl with two hands and ive done it since i was 3 just came natural and I bowled my first 300 recently im only 17 still Lots of more room to improve.
animalliker 1 year ago
the anouncers said cock like 30 times
bowlingprodogy 1 year ago 21
@bowlingprodogy he must be dick ridin.
idontnoapassword 2 months ago
i just love the fact that ppl are talkin about two handed bowling and what not, do whatever's comfortable but all in all, this is a vid of belmo losing to a one handed bowler. one hand FTW!
ShadesVA2FL 1 year ago
he`s a retard.He`s throwing the ball with both hands,just like a baby.That`s stupid.
alek0957 1 year ago
2 hand bowling increases fun and laughter :D:D
meg1413 1 year ago
2 hands are actually better then 1 since you can throw faster with more rotation and with lots of practice comes accuracy. i raised my average 30 pins by bowling with 2 hands and not thinking about going back to 1h xD
D34JV 1 year ago
and another thing if you notice he is only using his left hand to keep the ball from falling he basically bowls 1 handed he just keeps his hand there for support
ladyzmann 1 year ago
i dont know who your usbc coach is but he obviousley wants you to throw your arm out and also to the people saying 2 hands are better than 1 no its not and you actually get better rotation on the ball using one hand not two
ladyzmann 1 year ago
two hands work better but this big fat lady is keep saying to me you have to use three fingers im like shut up i hate bowling straight
2mreatme 1 year ago
its not recomended to even throw with two hands or two fingers i was told many times not to do it by my coachs dave husted and jeff combs yes one of my coaches was dave husted lol but yah they told me not to do it
ladyzmann 1 year ago
my USBC coach told me to bowl like this and it has raised my average like 20 pins
icehawk1223 1 year ago
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2mreatme 1 year ago
yeah
oOoJosh611oOo 1 year ago
@2mreatme
You don't have to, but it's recommended to do it, to get better rotation on the ball.
Yakushii 1 year ago
Its not recommended..
itsmystory2 1 year ago
better 2 hands then 1 xD
poikela12 2 years ago
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well i'll be honest, im 13 years old i started at the start of 2007 and i carry a 160 average with a high game of 232, i am more so a spare shooter, i can nearly spare any straight forward spare.
hommyg40 2 years ago
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wtf why does my comment have 5 down thumbs wtf you weird people
hommyg40 2 years ago
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i am 12 been bowling a year and my high is a 268 , have 13 200s but i average like 190
matthewmatakis22 2 years ago
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i did my first 300 game when i was 11 years old :P
kajvaj 2 years ago
Is that a white team storm ball?
DeniaLol 2 years ago
Yeah he is with storm now.
shadowzero33 2 years ago
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i am 2 handed shot 2 300s and 3 299s and i am 14
baler07 2 years ago
haha fuck off mate, if thats the truth tell me your name and i'll google it.
Vengenz666 2 years ago
in league or practice?
drakecsage15 2 years ago
last week i had a 257 game 2-handed style and i am only 13
wwerulesj 2 years ago
@wwerulesj Not bad. I got my first ever 200 game when I was 9 but I haven't been able to get the 250. I can only seem to get the high 240's
protenpinner 2 years ago
Results are the only thing that matter. Don't care how you get that ball down the lane. Kick it if works for you
NotComplicated 2 years ago
You are the most intelligent person I have met on Youtube yet.
You are absolutely right.
starsandbarsDixie 2 years ago 2
How does anyone in their right mind think Belmonte is slop? Gimme a break, if you can bowl multiple 300's you are not slop.
MurkinYou 2 years ago
just play on the way which we comfortable with it. what important is to get strike and legal. just like that
sonadid 2 years ago 5
What's the point of having to share two ball returns here?
uberbcs 2 years ago
Wow.. Jason looks real young here :)
DaveBais 2 years ago
I've reached a 190-195 average and my younger brother bowls two-handed and I can tell you from my own experience with the style that it's definately not one to be underestimated. I can't get the hang of two handed bowling myself and if its so easy to get strikes with two hands then every bowler on the PBA would switch to a two-handed delivery the fact is you bowl however you feel comfortable bowling, there are people who bowl backwards for christ sakes that could out bowl most people commenting
iainbandit 2 years ago
i bowl two handed i am ok i bowl i 120 i have been bowling for about 3 week and i am hoping i will find my permenant mark when i get my own ball
thesaber23 2 years ago
that other guy i think is the one with the bad form. he drops the ball down on the third step
SayrevilleBombers18 2 years ago
Myth: two-handed style has no future, requires no skill, is lousy
Fact: two-handed style has a larger margin of error on some lanes due to higher power and rev. However it has the cost of making the ball harder to control and throw consistently, while employing the entire body's muscles intead of just the arm.
zzzzzzzz231 2 years ago 8
while two handing uses all the body's muscle, it decreases longevity for the sport.
JustHereForBowling 2 years ago 2
It means that a large amount of no-talents can successfully bowl, versus being failed single-handed bowlers.
Tata996 2 years ago
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xXiaolinXx 2 years ago
@zzzzzzzz231 screw u man i would love to see you beat me and i roll two handed
JEEPMAN1195 1 year ago
@JEEPMAN1195 I'm with you man! I am not two-handed, but I have so much respect for the athleticism it takes to bowl with two hands, i've tried in practice for fun, and barely broke 150 lol
wiiman0001 1 year ago
@wiiman0001 no one respected me when i first started two handed i told them to just let me bowl i pay my league fees and now im in 1st place and have held that for the last 12 weeks and they figured out that im right and their wrong my average went from 180 to a 208 in 3 weeks and they tell me its stupied
JEEPMAN1195 1 year ago
@JEEPMAN1195 see I have no problem with it, for me when conditions are dry, i move to the outside and throw it slow to give it enough time to hook, if its oily i stay in my normal spot and just throw it faster so my ball doesn't hook as much, we ALL do things to change our game to our advantage, and two handed bowling is exactly that, is a new form of bowling that has swept thru the bowling world. Sorry those one handers are jerks, we're not all like that. Congrats on your success! Keep it up!
wiiman0001 1 year ago
@JEEPMAN1195 me too! but i still dont get much respect in my youth league even though im the top and a 200+ average bowler. just gotta prove them wrong on the score board i guess.
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@zzzzzzzz231 screw u man i would love to see you beat me and i roll two handed
JEEPMAN1195 1 year ago
@zzzzzzzz231 requires no skill? Try bowling against Jason Belmonte or Osku Palermaa and see who beats who. I am not two-handed but have some respect for those who are excelling at this sport. Who is the number #1 bowler in the PBA right now???......Jason Belmonte is!
wiiman0001 1 year ago
@zzzzzzzz231 just stop typing your a fucking moron...you probably suck at bowling a dont know shit about the sport
jakeg111222333 4 weeks ago
@jakeg111222333 Dude, you are fucking blind or suck at English too much to understand what "Myth" is. As are countless other posters on this video. I am merely debunking mistaken assumptions about two-handed bowling, being a two-handed bowler myself. Please read carefully ya fucking idiots. Apparently most posters can't differentiate between "Myth" and "Fact". Let me show you an example of a Myth: You have a six-inch dick. Let me show you an example of a Fact: You have a three-inch dick. _|_
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i personally dont like two handed style. to me it makes bowling just look like a stupid play game. people dont take it serious if people bowl two handed. and sry jason but the two handed style is not bowling of the furture. since two handed has so much power it takes way less skill to get a strike. anyone can get a strike two handed. it takes real skill to get one one handed.
madman102792 2 years ago
Haha I couldn't get a strike two handed, but I agree, two handed style is probably not the future, but it does keep bowling a little bit more interesting, don't you think?
Opsomaniac 2 years ago
Honestly, one or two handed bowling doesnt matter. It's not any easier or any harder to bowl two handed. It is not hard to be consistent bowling two handed. People just don't try it because it "looks more professional one handed"
pochifortunati 2 years ago 2
no its beacuase when they where young 2 handed bowlers keept playing with 3 hands becuase when the where like 3 the balls where too heavy
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ciao, sai che esiste un sito tutto sul calcio? vai sul sito di KICKO
MrMou86 2 years ago
Jason is best. I've started to throw like him and my average has raised 7pins in a month.
ValtZuu 2 years ago
kool
Guitarfreek400 2 years ago
How desperate organized bowling has become to allow this two-handed travesty to exist..
Tata996 2 years ago
youre just jealous
can you bowl with two hands
i didnt think so
vutnukka 2 years ago
he's just a good player,,, he even won on the PBA tour,, bowling is a sport about knocking the pins down,, no mater how u do it..so get over it tata966
thetrxstr 2 years ago
Well, with your logic then maybe people should start using a ball that detonates when it hits the pins.
Tata996 2 years ago
hahaha r u serious? its a technique. by exaggerating it like that, its like your accusing ppl who use different techniques of cheating. take tennis for example. techniques and materials have changed over the years and made winning hits change from around 60 mph hits to 90 mph hits or higher. is it cheating and demeaning the sport? of course not. is it cheating to use 2 hands on a racket? of course not. ur thinking way too traditional and one dimensional.
kadazero 2 years ago
Your analogies and examples are oversimplistic and erroneous. No insult, but I don't think you're capable of wrapping your mind around the essence of what I'm conveying to you.
Tata996 2 years ago
exactly how r they oversimplistic? uve never provided any actual flaws in my arguement. your trying to say that skill and talent only comes from one handed bowling and its a travesty to bowl differently. ur not that hard to understand. traditional has its own merits but improving on it is just natural. and ur last comment doesnt counter anything. all uve basically sed is "ur rong, im rite. im rite cuz u dont understand my feelings" =P. seriously.cmon.u gotta do better than that
kadazero 2 years ago
No sense in going back and forth like this. Just wait... time should prove my theory to be correct.
Best Regards..
Tata996 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Pointing out the flaws in your argument is pointless because there are so many -- two-handed bowling is essentially cheating because it is outside the scope of what bowling is intended to be.
WithExtremePrejudice 2 years ago
and who are you to judge this "scope" of wut bowling is. did u create bowling? no u didnt. and im tired of idiots like you who say that ther r sooo many reasons im rong but point out no flaws. o i noe, its pointless well thats just like saying "your wrong, im rite, cuz i am". n that just makes you a 5 year old. such a freakin troll. =P
kadazero 2 years ago
honestky it really doesnt matter dude, i completely agree with you but its not worth getting upset over because the fact is that two-handers are never going to go anywhere anyway
DethRail 2 years ago
wow.. yall are really taking this subject serious... its just bowling... relax
RohanSingh1983 2 years ago
I think they have to be extremely good two handers to bowl well on pba but i think they will continue to have success internationally
stormBIGbowling 2 years ago 2
I understand that new ideas frighten most humans. The two handed style does require skill. While revs and speed do help, accuracy is what is most important in bowling. It is very difficult to be consistently accurate when using the two handed style. You obviously have limited to no experience with what you are talking about. That fact must be quite embarrassing in hindsight.
JayDay111 2 years ago
Keep your sweeping, base assumptions about the majority of individuals to yourself- It makes you look less than intelligent. You also are dead wrong when postulating that accuracy is high with this form of "bowling". The dynamics of hi-rev ball-spin bowling and resultant pin interaction makes it much easier to bowl high scores with less accuracy. Go educate yourself in simple physics as well as in extensive, long-term experience in bowling. Then feel your own hindsight embarrassment.
Tata996 2 years ago
And, btw, If you want to talk about accuracy, go watch a number of Earl Anthony videos. He was the definition of an accuracy-based bowler- And he did it without utilizing auxiliary methods or equipment to improve his game.
Tata996 2 years ago
If you read my comment instead of skimming, you would see that I didn't postulate high accuracy. I am a mechanical engineer, so I don't need any education in dynamics. You are wrong to assume that those factors make bowling easier overall. The two handed bowler can't just hit anywhere around the pocket and get a strike. The revs and speed make the ball harder to control and ultimately harder to stay consistent. So your theory that the style doesn't take skill is incorrect.
JayDay111 2 years ago
I'll tell you what is unintelligent. Making definitive convictions about something with which you have no experience. Saying such things as "The was bowling was intended to be". You know nothing about the true intentions of bowling, if there were any other than a ball being thrown down a lane by a person. Do you have a personal relationship with the creator? You sound like a senile old man, angry at the evolving world around him.
JayDay111 2 years ago
Not to harp on the blame the equipment game, but two handed bowling seems like a logical extention of where bowling is going. The physical parameters of the lane have not changed, but the new gear has changed how the pins are knocked down. I, for one, am in favor of going back to single void pin; re:Bill Taylor. I'm fairly certain that ball/pocket placement would be more critical than a high rev shot getting a whiff of the pocket. A lot of high rev players would ping on pins that don't fly.
parkit56 2 years ago
I like the idea of the detonating bowling ball. I bet that would make the number 1 slot on ESPN's top plays.
byucoug27 2 years ago
Can Lasse get any more sponsors on that shirt??? HOLY CRAP!!!
scottcenter 2 years ago
is jason belmonte italian?
angelotennis 2 years ago
no he is australian
thanoobsowne 2 years ago
W0W crazy curve
WhitesoxallthewayFAN 2 years ago
two handed..too goofy looking, it should be on a cartoon!
ClintLickler 2 years ago
lol i play like him too
EricSmyth14 2 years ago
ive bowled a 795 1 hand a 786 2 handed and 2 300's 2 handed. Been bowling both ways since i was 9 and since i don't have all the money in the world sometimes i need the revs or a flatter shot for the conditions w/ 1 ball. It's bowling, not a beauty contest. Ten pins up, ten pins down. -peace
Rofe110s21 3 years ago
Amen!
Curtie555 2 years ago
i dont understand how that would be legal...
BUT, he is pretty damn good
Lzenna 3 years ago
when u release just with one hand, it still legal
sonadid 3 years ago
That two handed stuff is candy ass...throw it like a man, not a little boy.
ClintLickler 3 years ago
Like Jimmy Keeth.
Polarcupcheck 3 years ago
We are talking about bowling... there are no lumberjacks here!
angelreyes7 3 years ago
The bottom line is this, watch how the other guy (who WON) bowls. Everything he does is perfect, fundamentally sound and he was flush on every shot. If there is ANY style to emulate here, it's HIS, regardless of how tempting or enticing it might be to some here to bowl like a pansy.
thunderstruck665 3 years ago
You forgot that the single-handed bowler has a real SKILL and TALENT
Tata996 2 years ago
the guy is going to make pro bowling bigger then ever. I don't see anybody else do it.
BeauHansen14 2 years ago
thats stupid. as ppl learn more and evolve, so too are the way we do things. take a look at any sport and compare it to its origin. it still takes skill and talent fool, its just different and modified to produce more results. i suggest you try not to be so conservative.
kadazero 2 years ago
You're wrong. By using excessive methods that are physically outside the scope of what bowling was intended to be, you are creating an imbalance in the sport that will only degrade or cheapen it. It may take a certain amount of skill to bowl in the high 200's all day, utilizing the two-handed delivery with a juiced-up ball and other maximized factors, but there is no talent involved whatsoever. This will become evident when games in the upper 200's are commonplace and expected.
Tata996 2 years ago
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And, btw, talent will only be found in the single-handed bowler.
Tata996 2 years ago
Do you seriously think 2handed bowling requires no talent? I feel sorry for you.
Hurlmon 2 years ago
So if everyone is can become good at the game and enjoy it, it cheapens it? He's got a perfectly normal ball but just has a different delivery. I'm sure one handed bowlers can keep up with him. The two handed method is just a matter of preference. You know how long it took football players to start passing the ball forward? did that break the game? No it changed it for the better. What about a one timer in hockey. This two handed method is exactly like any other sport. It adds more depth.
alecness 2 years ago
That's what he gets for bowling like a girl. He gets his ass beat. Bowling like a girl on the professional level should be against the rules.
thunderstruck665 3 years ago
That's one of the most idiotic comments I've ever read.
Curtie555 3 years ago
How many titles has this guy won bowling like a girl? Two in eight years as a pro??? If he had learned how to bowl the RIGHT way, he would probably be more consistent and would win more.
thunderstruck665 3 years ago
So how many titles have you won? Have you been player of the year ANYWHERE? If you were any good, you would be supportive of other people. But you are obviously bitter about bowling.
Curtie555 3 years ago
Jason is the 2004 and 2008 World Bowler of the Year, not to mention the first person to shoot 2 300s on TV.
TranswarpXL 2 years ago
lol
angelreyes7 3 years ago
Sounds like something a third-grader would say on the playground. How infantile.
mrsooline 3 years ago
Actually, when I was in third grade and I used go bowling, a lot of the other kids my age used to bowl like this because they weren't strong enough to roll with one hand.
thunderstruck665 3 years ago 3
All of you guys don't realize the athetic ability it takes to bowl it two handed. You think it is just hooking the ball but its far from that. Your accuracy and speed have to be perfect or you will leave split after split. My best friend bowls two handed and has 35 800's and 50 300's in the past 10 years with the style. Don't hate till you try and find out how much it takes to do it.
Brianbright36 3 years ago
This two handed shit sucks...it looks stupid and it is stupid.cant bowl?..try two hands!
ClintLickler 3 years ago
how this guy beat belmo is beyond me
mrtvmankiller01 3 years ago
bad for the sport..but he is very good, one of the best bowlers in the world..I just think it's bad to teach this style.
ClintLickler 3 years ago
its not something you can really teach. i used to bowl like this when i first started up until i was like 10 or 12(now im one of those high backswing kinda crankers..) but its just something that has to come like natural to you. i find it useful and fun since i can pick up basically any ball and make it move. i never bowl like that in league or tournaments though
goldberg107 3 years ago
why is it bad for the sport I see it as the future and here is my reasoning balls are getting more aggressive oil is getting heavier so if guys want to play a ball that doesn't involve 2nd arrow they are gonna have to adapt im actually practicing this style be cause the amount of revs available give more room for error and pin action also i am a very low rev bowler low pin action meaning i have to shoot more perfect shots too try to keep up with high rev bowlers.
jesusthehomie 3 years ago
agreed. i think its stupid and all the weak kids start doing it without even trying real bowling. wouldnt be surprised if it become illegal in USBC and PBA play in the future cause its just stupid and not REAL bowling. i mean... common, when you go bowling you throw the ball with one hand NOT TWO!
milktrey 3 years ago
this guy has like no revs...lol
stillrob420 3 years ago
wtf are you on??? he averages 570rpm
mrtvmankiller01 3 years ago
lol its joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stillrob420 3 years ago
Don't get me wrong, he's a great bowler. But when you start stereotyping... That irritates the hell out of me.
ThaReapa 3 years ago
i might not stand where he does, but i throw the same line, same curve, and not as many revolutions as he does, he has 600ish. idk how many i have. i get the same pin action, i hold my ball b4 the approach where he does. he is an outstanding bowler. and i am improving since i switched. and im 18.
johnbarton5 3 years ago
I don't mean to sound like an A-- Hole but it's true. This kind of mentality pisses me off more than ever. If you've got talent, you've got talent. By the way, out of curiosity - How many 2 handed professional bowlers have bowled a 300 game? Now I don't know the answer, but if 2 handed bowlers are better, I want some evidence. I'm not going to bother looking yet since you put this on yourself.
ThaReapa 3 years ago
barton u robviously a noobish scrub cause its called hook not curve.
milktrey 3 years ago
dude, its the same fuckin thing.
johnbarton5 3 years ago
no... thats what people that know anything about bowling call it
milktrey 3 years ago
a curve is baseball a hook is bowling...jackass
billiam4212 3 years ago
all u other guys need to shut up. ive been bowling for 6-7 years, and since ive changed to 2 hands cuz of a minor thumb injury, my scores went up dramatically. ive been bowling with 2 hands for 3 weeks now, and i already had my first 700 series with a 759. i would of never got that with my thumb, and yea i also use 2 fingers as well, my ring finger and my pinkey, cuz of a middle finger injury. and yea, 2 handed bowlers are better. i am more consistant, and i can pick up speed when i need to.
johnbarton5 3 years ago
Bull, if you can bowl, you can bowl. Also if you're not a pro, then shut the F*** up, I don't wanna see you type you're wanna be PBA Championship Non-Sense. If you're not a pro, you deserve to keep your mouth shut. There are plenty of people out there only been bowling for 1 year with a 600+ Series.
ThaReapa 3 years ago
we got a guy on our bowling team who bowls with ring pinky we call it pinky power he also caries the highest avg
jesusthehomie 3 years ago
there is no rule on how to throw a bowling ball. he can throw however he want. the only thing that counts is the score, baby ;)
balvan13 3 years ago
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stupid 2 handed bowler
1337ScubaTal 3 years ago
screwing up the sport?? bull he could beat you anyday
draketrevor 3 years ago
i hate how he is fucjing up the sport
bowlingprodogy 3 years ago
who the fuck is this gyt
duffr98 3 years ago
no one cares pal, i used to give a damn about bowling and averaged 215 when i was 16-17 but its all in good fun and you dont here me bragging :p
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darrin686 3 years ago
bowling with 2 hands not so easy to consistant. must training a lot. but that's very unteresting to playing using 2 hands haha
sonadid 3 years ago
ok give me 1 week and it will b up on youtube
loserx37 3 years ago
dude i don't even care anymore. your obviously lying so i dont really give a squirrels patooty! or a rats ass.
bowlintigersrock88 3 years ago
im 14 and i bowled 16 300games and 2 900 series
loserx37 3 years ago
Yea i can guarentee youre lying
bowlintigersrock88 3 years ago
wanna get on a lane with me then
loserx37 3 years ago
yea i would love to. If you have actually done that then how come ive never heard of you. 2 900's from a 14 year old?? i can guarentee i would have heard of you if that was true.
bowlintigersrock88 3 years ago
because it's on a different website... and damn ur rude
loserx37 3 years ago
ok i bet. i didn't even say anything rude, i just dont like liars.
bowlintigersrock88 3 years ago
ok well u dont kno the truth then
loserx37 3 years ago
why haven't i heard of you?
bowlintigersrock88 3 years ago
maybe u dont pay attention to t.v
loserx37 3 years ago
haha omg dude your ridiculous. where are you from?
bowlintigersrock88 3 years ago
las vegas were are u form
loserx37 3 years ago
michigan and next year im bowling for national champion svsu. 2 years running.
bowlintigersrock88 3 years ago