Nazis needed a database to control and kill all those people, so sad technology is used for that but that is war, one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse...
If I could have made just one suggestion it would be this: do not make use of the popularized terms -- "terrorists, tyrannic regimes, etc" because it automatically assumes that such categories really exist (I'm assuming the word "terrorists" is used in the context to mean (a homogeneous?) "Middle Eastern/Islamic" threat against the so called "Western world"? Trace the term "terrorists" and you will find nazi Germany where they used it to de-legitimize their political opponents and win favor
"US court [ Federal Judge Shira Scheindlin ] allows apartheid claims against IBM and carmakers - A US court has ruled that lawsuits seeking monetary damages can continue against five large companies accused of aiding South Africa's former apartheid system of racial segregation." 09 Apr 2009
IBM & the NAZIS what did you think those numbers on the arm were? Also, IBM is in a FED Lawsuit with Judge Shira Scheindlin for Computer Software used in Aparthied crimes, same stuff that was in German Camps. That Software is now the BACKBONE to US Census Bureau. The Software categorizes you and your family and your assets for extermination, etc...
Is it just me or does Mr Moore miss the point when it comes to the dangers of using state power to get companies to work with you towards a greater end. There isn't that much of a difference between the way members of the EU run their economies today and the national socialist of the 30s. The USA in the 1930s shared economic elements with the Nazis. It was just the end result in a way of thinking that got going after ww1.
Corporations do not carry the guilt of the conspiracy of the Ideological Political Organizations that the Corporations for a time profited by. Corporations exist for a limited purpose. To attempt to tie them together with either a good or evil cause, is a misrepresentation of fact of history. It is a guilt by association, not a proof of cause and effect. The Soviet Structure owned all the means of production, and yet they did not demonstrate the values that the "Humanists" would seek.
Considering that Codes, Titles and Legislation apply to these corporations shouldn't they receive the "death penalty" for their crimes and be dissolved/dismantled?
One cannot serve two masters. Of course they don't have allegiance to the flag; it's a law of the universe that they can't pledge their allegiance both to a nation and to profit.
One cannot serve two masters... Glad we read that part of the Bible and thought long and hard on what it meant. Pretty sure that passage specifically referred to whether a man could serve money and God at the same time, too. Funny how that works.
Business means money. And there's no better business than war. Never has been, never will be. "The Beginning of everything is war" a Greek once said. And you better believe it.
@StateQuoable Here's a list of possible accomplices to the regime. The information is sometimes loose and hard to verify but it can at least point you in the right direction. Hugo Boss Kodak Ford Volkswagen Bayer Pfizer Siemens Coca-Cola Standard Oil Chase Bank Random House Publishing IBM The list is actually pretty long. It takes a lot of resources to run a program like the Holocaust so it doesn't surprise me.
@PenTheMighty Your list of collaborators is short, but the number of corporations that colluded with the German government in the years leading up to 1939 and even after is frighteningly long. But Volkswagen doesn't actually belong on this list. The literal translation of the company name is "Wagon for the People," and the company was German in origin.
Why would there be a separate number for executions and "special treatment"?
Also, the Dachau gas executions have been long debunked, yet footage of the camp's delousing chamber is still being presented as an instrument of genocide. That isn't fringe revisionism; it's academically accepted that there were gas chamber executions in Auschwitz, but not in Dachau.
yep. we always hear about the jews who got killed, not the millions of others who were also persecuted, or the tens of millions Stalin, our ally btw, had put away or executed. Always question what you are told is 'history'.
Also who cares if Coke was selling the nazis fanta? How is that such a crime, in fact it means coke was taking Nazi money and putting it in the American economy doesn't it?
"that was what they made so they could continue making money while millions of people died." What a drama queen. It's fucking soda, how were the Germans going to use that to help their war effort?
Try this one "One Laptop Per Child", IBM and others tried to make money out of the poor children in 3rd world country whilst crushing the non profit OLPC organization
I love it in this piece that u see Moore attacking only Coca Cola and IBM for their roles in Hitler's Reich but when you look at Germany before '38 you see corporations aiding the Hitler's rise like Union Banking Corp. IG Farben, GE, etc, who without the funding and business like oil and steel, Hitler would've not claimed control over Germany or been able to fight the world war. I mean this assessment is only the tip of the iceberg for corps. funding dictatorships. Research Anthony Sutton 4 more
@loganss1 not to mention that before the Nazi regime the germans were so far into debt that they were burning their currency to keep warm because it was essentially worthless pieces of paper with pretty writing on it...so im sure that whatever the fanta drink cost wasn't bringing in even close to the revenue that it was using to create the product and thus resulting in a net loss of money for coke anyways...right?
It's not about banning IBM...lol...that's beside the point. I think they are trying to make a psychological portrait of your average big corporation...Believe it or not some people think corporations are their friends and the best thing that ever happened to them. Although it may be true in some cases, this film tries to depict the other side of the medal...
Irving you Uncle Tom Mutherfucker.... How cynical of IBM to send a jew out to defend against accusation of Nazi collusion. Of course a jew would never defend such things as the holocaust, right?
Old Man Watson should have been dragged out into the streets of New York and executed like the dog he was. Same with Irving and Drucker here....
i love the bit on nazi germany and fanta, in fact the cost for america to create fanta is pennies compared to it's selling price, this means coke was doing more create economic prosperity for america while in return providing a worthless product and economic disparity in germany.
So a psychopathic regime takes control of a large western nation, and suddenly we all want to direct our anger at IBM? What the fuck?
You people are all mindless idiots parroting back what the film maker wants you to think. If you think corporations are so damn evil, how do you think they compare to governments? Would you rather have Hitler deciding how many computers to make, or Watson? Your choice.....
@andharvey8 Private interests corrupt Public Institutions. That's the point. You have a shocking lack of knowledge about the Progressive/Populist Era. Or on this history of say, Standard Oil Trust.
@eaodak So what's your solution here? You think we should have no private institutions? Did you actually read the history of Standard Oil, or did you just get the highlights from some liberal douche-bag university professor?
You contend that IBM shares blame for the Nazi Death Camps? Let me ask you this. If you were the IBM rep on the scene, would you have refused them service, after watching them murder a pile of people? I don't think so. Who's at fault here?
@andharvey8 I am a 'liberal douche bag university professor' Dolt.
"If you were the IBM rep on the scene, would you have refused them service, after watching them murder a pile of people?" This is one of the stupidest questions I have ever seen..... Are you mentally challenged?
@eaodak Well that would explain it then. I suppose that means that you haven't read the Standard Oil case either, and you're now infecting young minds with your liberal douche-bag philosophies. So I'll ask you again,
If you were a representative of IBM in Germany circa 1942, would you have had the balls to tell the Nazi's to go F themselves, and risk becoming yet another member of a very grim set of statistics?
@andharvey8 "f you were a representative of IBM in Germany circa 1942, would you have had the balls to tell the Nazi's to go F themselves, and risk becoming yet another member of a very grim set of statistics?"
Are you suggesting that Watson HAD to sell these machines or face death?
What idiotic point are you trying desperately to make. Just say it dolt....
@eaodak The picture in the video of Hitler and Watson was from 1937, long before anyone knew what was going to happen. The Nazi's hadn't yet invaded anyone.
Regardless, we're not talking about Watson here. Its the German employees who are in question. Either (a) they were Nazis themselves and didn't care that Jews were being killed, or (b) they were "along for the ride" despite their better judgement.
In either case, the corporate profit motive is not to blame for the Holocaust.
@andharvey8 Hitler’s political ideology & intentions, such as elimination of the Jews and the use of poisonous gas, were pretty much clear since the publication of Mein Kampf in 1925-26. And the war had been on the cards since 1933. Who knows how much Watson knew in 1937 but he wasn’t in the dark in 1939 when Hitler announced the "Vernichtung" of the Jewish race in Europe" & Watson “approved the opening of a new Europe-wide school for Hollerith technicians in Berlin”
@andharvey8 When Poland was occupied he authorised opening of a new subsidiary with a punch-card printing plant across the street from Warsaw Ghetto and rushed another one in to newly occupied Holland. They vehemently opposed any type of competition in this market and sued potential competitors to maintain their monopoly in that market.
@andharvey8 Nobody is blaming IBM for Holocaust, even Black himself separates IBM today from the one in the 30s and 40s. The whole point of this segment was to illustrate how far some corporate entities will go in maintaining their profitability and accumulation of wealth be it privatisation of rain water, ‘trading with the enemy’, which many of the corporations are fined for on the daily basis, to claiming their profits in product used for “cataloguing and dispatching millions of victims”.
The video attempts to make the case that Corporations are soulless entities that would gladly sell accounting machinery to facilitate the extermination of the Jews, so long as they're making profits.
The problem with this example: There's a strong possibility that the IBM employees in Germany at the time were not in any kind of position to refuse the demands of the Third Reich.
Sorry to have to spell it out, but some of you Uni types are a little slow on the uptake
Apparently at this time money was more imporant than human lives. Also what was the vice president of IBM in this film on in order to say such garbage?
That is so fucked up. "We don't know how the Nazi's got or used our equipment" Then they show a picture of the CEO of IBM eating lunch with Hitler. We live mostly in a civilized culture and what the main problem is , in this day and age is the Business comunity doesn't not. They go by the laws of the jungle. They have the money & have the judges, politicans, cops working for them. They can legally act like Psycho's in our global society and get away with it.
Are the morons who made this movie suggesting that Hitler and Mussolini funded armies that in 1940s dollars cost ONE TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR out of nowhere? Are they honestly suggesting that the response against communism just came about magically? So it had NOTHING to do with the fact that communists were murdering millions of people? How about The Holodomor? That had nothing to do with it? How about the business owners that Stalin murdered and robbed. Of course a reaction would happen.
Look at these fucking loser leftists comparing everything to Nazis. What a bunch of fucking losers thinking that counts as a logical argument against capitalism. Nazis thought 1+1=2 so math must be wrong too!
@redhouse1976 I've decided to become a leftist. I will just proceed to compare everything and everyone with "Nazis" to make my point. Yeah, real intellectual!
Holocaust is a fact!Tones of clothes, hairs, bones, etc. of Jews, Polish, Romes after killed in german`s camps in Poland prove it. Real Jews of Abraham, remember that US Jews-the reachest could stop holocaust easilly but they did nothing as there was no political and financial profits of that. Survivals,80000, are still robbed by jewish "claims conference" and live in poverty.Holocaust is nowadays used in NWO propaganda to stop any voice against lucyferian order without God and Jesus Christ!
I'm american and it just occurred to me - no one has said anything racist about the jews on these videos. No one has called the female advertisers "cunts" or told them to get back in the kitchen. The discussion is coherent and thoughtful... is this youtube?
Wait, who's watching this.... oh yeah, the film is made in CANADA! lol
@StinkadoodlePie Canadians are no better than anyone else. I know because I am one. There are just more White people here which is why things are more pleasant and there is less crime.
I'm gonna go buy a Fanta. I have to say I think regulations endorsed by corps and thier lobbyists to(in a way) weed out mom and pop competitors and corner a little more of the market is a disaster, and I think companys like wal-mart destroy small communitys. I think there is alot more to ww2 than Nazi's killing Jews. Alot of what is going on in the world right now stems from ww2. I think the plight against the jews was/is overembellished.Not as many jews died, or died the way thats explained.
@AphoticAquatic This is a great comment. You are right about the truths and lies of WWII. By the way, it's good when mom and pop shops close down because Wal-Mart offers much lower prices which increase the quality of life for all the poor people in a community at the expense of a few mom and pops.
@leeason1 I guess thats one way to look at it. Hmm. I was thinking I guess more along the lines of other industrys as well, like small meat packers, beer brewers, soda pop, tobacco, etc. Just a couple small local style industrys, regulating small business owners out of business. I see what your saying though, and as I feel one way, my wallet has me inclined to shop at wal-mart. What can I say?lol
@leeason1 um no its not its terrible.. and to add to the pain of these moms and pops, they will more than likely be forced to work for the same company that shit on their dreams for crap pay and crappier benefits.. on another note wal mart does NOTHING for poor people
@leeason1 Sometimes the cheaper prices are at more than just the expense of a few mom and pops....I think paying a bit more in order to sustain a community is worth it. The poor people in a community would benefit more in the long term with a sustainable community than they would because of short-term "band-aid" fixes for their economic problems
@dazeity Yeah, then go ahead and pay twice as much for your goods and services. Yeah, that's a brilliant idea right? For everyone to have twice the cost of living to support a handful of home based businesses. Oh, and what happens if those home based businesses BECOME MORE SUCCESSFUL and turn into giant corporations? Then what?
It seems alot of different corporations have serious blood on thier hands. From IBM, to Coke and Phillip Morris. As we wonder in aww at the meglomaniac progressing, our fate slowly seals.
@AphoticAquatic How the fuck does Coke have blood on their hands? They sold orange soda to Germans during WWII (probably mostly civilians). That was it.
@FatherTime89 "They sold orange soda to Germans during WWII (probably mostly civilians). That was it."
To you, because you're ignorant. I'm not going to sell goods and services to a genocidal society that has thrown the Earth into war. Not only that but the ingredients to make it, like sugar, were being restricted. We were saving our fucking GREASE to DONATE at the time. Hello?
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@EcFXSN1P3RX its means mixsure of business and government. We live in a facist governement. Schools teach it wrong they say that communist is to the left and fascism is to the right but its wrong. Government control is to the left and no government to the right. On the left its communist and facism and on the right its have no government, Anarchy.
I can't believe that IBM VP. Your company had a part in the largest genocide of modern history and you're spouting some BS about dots that aren't connected? God, the irresponsibility and arrogance is disgusting.
corporations are formed by decree from government. they dont occur naturally. without government allowing businesses to incorporate, you would have no corporations, only sole proprietorship and partnerships that would stay small naturally because the owners would be personally responsible for all debts and personally responsible for any lawsuits.
government is the root problem. it has the power, companies dont. they can only get power through colluding with government.
the government does not hold all power, corporations and wealthy individuals also have power.
even without the government, businessmen would still pollute, exploit, and externalize costs. Yes we need less government, but we have to take things one step at a time, changing the way our social system works.
until people and organizations are accountable for their actions by our social system alone, we cannot fully abolish the government.
not saying we should have no government, just remove the collusion which allows incorporation. incorporation was only meant for public projects that were not very profitable so businesses would not do it unless they had protection. now your dog can incorporate. too much.
'abolish the government' is not a strategy its a goal, and if we want to achieve that goal in a way that does not leave a power vacuum which is sure to be filled by yet another hierarchical system. we need to transition into a more directly democratic system where individuals cannot insulate themselves from the effects of their actions. companies should be run by their workers, communities should govern themselves and no man should own the rights of another man.
im not saying abolish government completely. just sever the collusion (incorporation) which is the root cause of the problem. the only government i'd abolish in america is the u.s. federal government. keep the state governments.
direct democracy is mob rule. constitutional democracy is better.
companies run by workers is communism. doesnt work.
i agree communities should govern themselves and the rights of the individual are the most important, not the "collective."
constitutions and direct democracy are not contradictory and direct democracy refers to the way laws are made not to lawlessness. I think your thinking of Ochlocracy.
companies run by workers is not communism, communism means that all products are in a warehouse and if you need something you get it (basicly), and worker run businesses do work. (there are about 300 ncba style worker owned businesses in the us and thats only one type of democratic business system)
well if you mean workers organizing buying out or starting a business, thats fine. but i wouldnt agree with government forcing current business owners to sell out to the workers! successful entrepreneurs are rare. if it was easy then half of all business startups wouldnt fail. most people are not good managers/owners. have you ever read the peter principle?
I dont think the government needs to force owners to do anything, but our current system strongly discourages worker ownership. for example, irs recognized business structures (partnerships, LLCs, corps, etc.) are all hierarchal. with a few owners who are generally completely isolated from the workers, and/or have no obligation to anyone but their shareholders. a simple way to make progress would be to recognize one (or more) democratic structure for those that want to try it.
I think the rights of the individual can form a natural balance to promote the greater good. but only if that individual is not allowed to inhibit the freedom of other individuals. I think ethical egoism would slowly destroy the human race.
i dont really believe in the "greater good." its a dangerous concept, like patriotism, or communism.
i think "ethical egoism" is fine as long as your normal. normal people know instinctively you need people to survive so its in their interest to care about other people. its why you feel bad when you see someone hurt, even if you dont know them. you subconsciously feel your security has been diminished. to be otherwise is abnormal, a sociopath.
I do agree that it is a part of human nature to care about others, but if were going to embrace ethical egoism then that psychopath has the right to do as he pleases and thats a problem, and I dont see a way to fix that psychopath problem without invoking the concept of greater good, as within ethical egoism, there is only concern for self interest. and if that psychopath believes mass murder to be in his self interest, he can commit mass murder.
Corporations have no loyalty or patriotism save that which serves their bottom line. If a corporation can make money colluding with the enemies of the United States or plotting its demise--then it will do so. This is why it is DANGEROUS to allow corporations to make political donations and lobby Congress.
We need a Constitutional Amendment to abolish "Corporate Personhood" and ban corporations from politics
...Yes, but if America stopped trading with Germany in the 40's, they would have went elsewhere and had their war machine helped along by someone else...
@fleurgi actually none of it surprises me bc this time period had alot of antisemetic hatred. ppl think that only hitler had these ideas with elimating what he considered inferior races but really eugenics was so popular in this time and phrenology so...
IBM and Coke are evil ¬¬ That's why I don't drink anymore Coke. (I don't drink coke anymore just because Coke is too much sugar. Same with other soda drinks)
They just did business, to provide services just as any other business, you say they are evil but look at how the german gov't allowed the persecution of the jews, who is more evil, its the gov't that has to protect fraud, criminals,force, and their rights, it wasn't a legit gov't
A gov't is there to promote how men are to live, what is right, and what is wrong. But in a way i do agree with you, just keep these arguments in mind.
IBM has been very successful in keeping this quiet. I've worked in computers for 35 years and never knew this.
(As for copyright infringement. I don't know the case, but while you can copyright your specific sentences, you can't copyright historical facts. And getting the historical facts out is the main thing that needs to be done.)
Yes IBM and Coke did business with Hitler - and Fanta was advertised as the Fuhrer's Soft Drink! (I have copies of old ads) but they didn't mention the fact that the INSURANCE COMPANIES had ALL the data on all of the camps, and sent inspectors regularly. In other words, everyone knew what was going on. But we shouldn't just blame the corporations because when people in the US weren't getting their letters returned from Aunt Greta and Uncle Josef, they didn't ask any questions either!
1XMarksSpot < i believe the Illuminati is real and does thrive in North America through IBM. and that soon.. if we do not find a way of stopping them . we will die from not having the chip
AMERICAN REPUBLICAN FASCISM: Nationalism without merit - Constant desire for "rebirth" Military Worship Worship of the ultra rich Corporation & State collaboration - avoiding labour rights Social Darwinism - "Bad things happen to bad people" Inequality is good & necessary Fraudulent Elections Imperialism - Culturally & Militarly Minimal social policies Corporate media manipulation Anti-intellectual Anti-multiculturalism Anti-homosexuality Anti-labor unions Anti-social democracy
there is a country which is still virgin to corporate exploitation, and thats the north korea, surely the corporate presence there is minimal which it only receives donation, we should all follow north korea's example of not being the slave of a corporation, better yet copy our system of government after our communist friend north korea
that Vice President talking in the video is full of shit, IBM saw Hitler as a lucrative trading partner and went along for the ride, they didn't give a shit
I'm Canadian, and well, we are built up of American Corp's such as McDonalads, Starbucks, etc. and its our choice to shop at these establishments and send money to American Corporations. This is not only Canada, but the entire world. There is a McDonalds in every country. How many people purchase, and even represent Nike and Coca Cola? Its our fault, not anyone elses
@randybtown, I agree, but in some cases there isn't much choice because it isn't so easy to find things made/owned in Canada anymore and things that say 'made in Canada' aren't always actually made here because of loopholes in the law or are partially made here. I disagree about Starbucks though, I know no one who prefers it over Tim Hortons.
@randybtown Umm........McDonald's is ISRAELI Owned. Oh and If you are Canadian then YOU are also AMERICAN. The U.S. shares the same continent with Canada you realize. The U.S. does not really export ANYTHING anymore. Nike shoes are actually manufactured in China. BP Is an English Corporation as are most of the Gold mining companies on the North and South American continents. Do a little research Randybtown
@randybtown Exactly. The totalitarian idiots who produced this movie want to take away everyone's freedom of choice. What a bunch of sickos. Move to Cuba if you want to lose your freedoms. I'll keep mine, thank you.
We Americans had nothing to do with it.. learn your history ... We Americans were born into this just like you.. America the Corporation is "Owned" but not by Us the Americans... Just please do the research and see who really owns the Corporation of America and most all other countries.
Sorry maryelsia, we can't escape fault as Americans. We care more about prices being low then we do about where they come from and the suffering of the people who make them.
I see the kind of American you describe as being a dieing breed. A new awaking is sweeping this planet and human beings all over our world are starting to open their eyes to what is really going on. I think more then not caring about the suffering of others..we simply did not know. We are not spoon fed this kind of truth.. and we were taught to trust the spoon.. As we become aware of what is really going on... we do care! You want to blame the lied to or or the ones who lied?
I agree with you, I see people who have been "blind" to the truth opening their eyes, with our bought and paid for news media, what a waste, a lie, showing happy happy, even many teenagers are through all the bullshit.
The rise of corporations is responsible for government actions? We blame the corporations and NOT the Governments?? Good God... how can you not blame those in power for ENABLING corporations to do evil. Without the help of those in POWER, Corporations are POWERLESS. You have to look at the people who ENABLE greed to manifest into evil. Greed is human NATURE, you cannot get around that. Attack those in POWER, since they are the true EVIL, that enables all other evils. Anarchy is PEACE.
I bought an espresso machine that turns out to be one of the company's that used slave Jewish labor in Nazi Germany. I was disgussed when I found out. You just never know how what you do and buy can be traces back to something so incredibly sinister.
Yeah I know what you mean. I found out that starbucks is helping the ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza and the WestBank. Now I quit buying starbucks products
My problem with this is Hitler was adamantly against capitalism. He considered it a Jewish monstrosity. Ironically in Mein Kempf he said capitalism was the road to Marxism. This is nothing communist propaganda.
The Bush family sold weapons to the nazis. The catholic church (jesuites) also supported the nazis at the beginning of thier regiem. Of coarse we know how the church felt about Jews or non converts. The present pope was a nazi youth. Lots of photo documented proof if you search. Im not a Jew but i regard the truth.
I am tired of all you patriots of fiction. You have no country, you are just level headed slaves. Did you think matrix was just made for your entertainment. Why do we all have this my country attitude, when all its gov does is lead your family into stupid slaughter as military officers & pawns. Wake up, the U.S republic was high jacked under the colour of arms ages ago.
I don't care who you are once you are white, this land is not yours. You are children of murderers, so what are you then? no?
Nazis needed a database to control and kill all those people, so sad technology is used for that but that is war, one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse...
Deutschip 1 month ago
I know my employer would prefer total control of the workers lives and fates. I think facism is a corporate experiment.
jerome3151 1 month ago
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"Fascism ought more properly to be called corporatism -- it is the merger between state and corporate power." -- Mussolini
mctrlsys 4 weeks ago
Please, please, PLEASE, take your anti-corporation bullshit and keep it to yourself.
mummyjohn 1 month ago
@mummyjohn
"Fascism ought more properly to be called corporatism -- it is the merger between state and corporate power." -- Mussolini
mctrlsys 4 weeks ago
AMERICANS ARE SO STUPID AND BLIND !
PrinceSamanti 1 month ago
@PrinceSamanti whats your problem asshole? what great country are you from?
897Club 3 weeks ago
greed is greed nothing else
makeiteasyable 1 month ago
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cubedude666 1 month ago
I remembered the saying of Gandhi, "The resources in the earth are available to everyone except GREED"
charredpalace 2 months ago 3
If I could have made just one suggestion it would be this: do not make use of the popularized terms -- "terrorists, tyrannic regimes, etc" because it automatically assumes that such categories really exist (I'm assuming the word "terrorists" is used in the context to mean (a homogeneous?) "Middle Eastern/Islamic" threat against the so called "Western world"? Trace the term "terrorists" and you will find nazi Germany where they used it to de-legitimize their political opponents and win favor
iiNDiTC 2 months ago
Americans think they live in the home of the free but in facts they are slaved people of corporations
Octopus0051 2 months ago 2
"US court [ Federal Judge Shira Scheindlin ] allows apartheid claims against IBM and carmakers - A US court has ruled that lawsuits seeking monetary damages can continue against five large companies accused of aiding South Africa's former apartheid system of racial segregation." 09 Apr 2009
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5128938/US-court-allows-apartheid-claims-against-IBM-and-carmakers.html
Eliot Bernstein, Iviewit Inventor and Nazi Hunter
eliotbernstein 3 months ago
IBM & the NAZIS what did you think those numbers on the arm were? Also, IBM is in a FED Lawsuit with Judge Shira Scheindlin for Computer Software used in Aparthied crimes, same stuff that was in German Camps. That Software is now the BACKBONE to US Census Bureau. The Software categorizes you and your family and your assets for extermination, etc...
eliotbernstein 3 months ago
Is it just me or does Mr Moore miss the point when it comes to the dangers of using state power to get companies to work with you towards a greater end. There isn't that much of a difference between the way members of the EU run their economies today and the national socialist of the 30s. The USA in the 1930s shared economic elements with the Nazis. It was just the end result in a way of thinking that got going after ww1.
EasyEs 4 months ago
hypocrisy on the part of michael moore and mr achbar.
telemetry9 4 months ago
Corporations do not carry the guilt of the conspiracy of the Ideological Political Organizations that the Corporations for a time profited by. Corporations exist for a limited purpose. To attempt to tie them together with either a good or evil cause, is a misrepresentation of fact of history. It is a guilt by association, not a proof of cause and effect. The Soviet Structure owned all the means of production, and yet they did not demonstrate the values that the "Humanists" would seek.
CarmineFragione 6 months ago
Gotta love that fanta orange
torpex808 8 months ago
Every time you use the computer you can thank Nazis and Corporate Greed!
TheTC 8 months ago
When I see Micheal Moore appear
--I disappear
Bye
Zendout1 9 months ago
Considering that Codes, Titles and Legislation apply to these corporations shouldn't they receive the "death penalty" for their crimes and be dissolved/dismantled?
FFCS2009 10 months ago 11
One cannot serve two masters. Of course they don't have allegiance to the flag; it's a law of the universe that they can't pledge their allegiance both to a nation and to profit.
onehundredeightytwo 10 months ago
One cannot serve two masters... Glad we read that part of the Bible and thought long and hard on what it meant. Pretty sure that passage specifically referred to whether a man could serve money and God at the same time, too. Funny how that works.
mrthebest54321 10 months ago
Business means money. And there's no better business than war. Never has been, never will be. "The Beginning of everything is war" a Greek once said. And you better believe it.
aZZmodan 10 months ago
wow, just wow
triforcelink 11 months ago
salesmen will sell to anyone !!!
ukipodder 11 months ago
Can I have reliable sources on corporations that helped build, supported, and kept doing business with Nazi Germany during the war?
StateQuoable 11 months ago
PenTheMighty 11 months ago
@PenTheMighty Your list of collaborators is short, but the number of corporations that colluded with the German government in the years leading up to 1939 and even after is frighteningly long. But Volkswagen doesn't actually belong on this list. The literal translation of the company name is "Wagon for the People," and the company was German in origin.
sunnydalesucks 10 months ago
@sunnydalesucks
Yeah, not enough space on youtube to actually list ALL of them. And thanks for the correction on VW.
PenTheMighty 9 months ago
Why would there be a separate number for executions and "special treatment"?
Also, the Dachau gas executions have been long debunked, yet footage of the camp's delousing chamber is still being presented as an instrument of genocide. That isn't fringe revisionism; it's academically accepted that there were gas chamber executions in Auschwitz, but not in Dachau.
FreeVonHelton 11 months ago
@FreeVonHelton "Why would there be a separate number for executions and "special treatment"?"
4 was for "executed". As in the execution or "special treatment" had already taken place regarding the victim.
Starry2000 11 months ago
@Starry2000 No, that's not how it's portrayed.
FreeVonHelton 11 months ago
WHEN YOU'RE DRINKING FANTA YOU'RE DRINKING HITLER'S PISS
hogwashsentinel 11 months ago 10
I would have thought that "jew" would have been earlier on the list.
KenArrari 11 months ago
@KenArrari
yep. we always hear about the jews who got killed, not the millions of others who were also persecuted, or the tens of millions Stalin, our ally btw, had put away or executed. Always question what you are told is 'history'.
Also who cares if Coke was selling the nazis fanta? How is that such a crime, in fact it means coke was taking Nazi money and putting it in the American economy doesn't it?
parklinkin52 11 months ago
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Starry2000 11 months ago
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Starry2000 11 months ago
That fanta story is BS. Read about it. The guy who owned the cola factory could no longer get coke syrup so invented fanta.
MrTeaB 11 months ago
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Starry2000 11 months ago
this is nothing. How about exposing george bush's grand father who was a nazi money launderer! It is a well known fact, just look it up people.
tkuliocowske 1 year ago
"that was what they made so they could continue making money while millions of people died." What a drama queen. It's fucking soda, how were the Germans going to use that to help their war effort?
FatherTime89 1 year ago
wow i can't believe IBM worked for those bastards
ishouldplayzelda 1 year ago
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FatherTime89 1 year ago
oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04aslamv 1 year ago
I love Fanta.
macr0machine 1 year ago
Try this one "One Laptop Per Child", IBM and others tried to make money out of the poor children in 3rd world country whilst crushing the non profit OLPC organization
Guesswhokk 1 year ago
It's too bad that not many of you get this video. Haplasly passing your time in the grassland away.
lebiew 1 year ago
Fanta Orange = Nazi Cola! HAHA I love Fanta and I'm German, crap...
AptlyFictional 1 year ago 2
@AptlyFictional
haha :) but i hate ppl still think nazi when subject is germany but germans r very cool ppl
sumerates 1 year ago
@AptlyFictional
Well I hate to break it too you, but you may just be a Nazi.
There is a test you can preform though.
1) Look into a mirror. Do you see a small bit of hair just above your lip and under your nose. If yes. You just may be a Nazi
2) Look around you. Any Nazi memorabilia around,. If so you may be a Nazi
3) Lastly look at your family. Are they all blond hair and blue eyed? If so. You may be a Nazi.
I hope I helped :)
JimmyEatWorld55 1 year ago
@JimmyEatWorld55 wow what an american answer jimmy!
AptlyFictional 1 year ago
Goddamnit, now I won't be able to drink an orange Fanta without feeling guilty!
killeraddiction 1 year ago
bussiness is bussiness huh
brainiacxx 1 year ago
I love it in this piece that u see Moore attacking only Coca Cola and IBM for their roles in Hitler's Reich but when you look at Germany before '38 you see corporations aiding the Hitler's rise like Union Banking Corp. IG Farben, GE, etc, who without the funding and business like oil and steel, Hitler would've not claimed control over Germany or been able to fight the world war. I mean this assessment is only the tip of the iceberg for corps. funding dictatorships. Research Anthony Sutton 4 more
sil3ntxOblivion 1 year ago
@loganss1 not to mention that before the Nazi regime the germans were so far into debt that they were burning their currency to keep warm because it was essentially worthless pieces of paper with pretty writing on it...so im sure that whatever the fanta drink cost wasn't bringing in even close to the revenue that it was using to create the product and thus resulting in a net loss of money for coke anyways...right?
xSabres626 1 year ago
Wir mussen die Juden ausrotten!
Es ist Zeit für Rache!
Mize5 1 year ago
It's not about banning IBM...lol...that's beside the point. I think they are trying to make a psychological portrait of your average big corporation...Believe it or not some people think corporations are their friends and the best thing that ever happened to them. Although it may be true in some cases, this film tries to depict the other side of the medal...
alleygh0st 1 year ago
Irving you Uncle Tom Mutherfucker.... How cynical of IBM to send a jew out to defend against accusation of Nazi collusion. Of course a jew would never defend such things as the holocaust, right?
Old Man Watson should have been dragged out into the streets of New York and executed like the dog he was. Same with Irving and Drucker here....
eaodak 1 year ago
Capitalism is evil and will destroy this planet.
eaodak 1 year ago
i love the bit on nazi germany and fanta, in fact the cost for america to create fanta is pennies compared to it's selling price, this means coke was doing more create economic prosperity for america while in return providing a worthless product and economic disparity in germany.
loganss1 1 year ago
So a psychopathic regime takes control of a large western nation, and suddenly we all want to direct our anger at IBM? What the fuck?
You people are all mindless idiots parroting back what the film maker wants you to think. If you think corporations are so damn evil, how do you think they compare to governments? Would you rather have Hitler deciding how many computers to make, or Watson? Your choice.....
andharvey8 1 year ago
@andharvey8 Private interests corrupt Public Institutions. That's the point. You have a shocking lack of knowledge about the Progressive/Populist Era. Or on this history of say, Standard Oil Trust.
Get an education before posting such idiocy....
eaodak 1 year ago
@eaodak So what's your solution here? You think we should have no private institutions? Did you actually read the history of Standard Oil, or did you just get the highlights from some liberal douche-bag university professor?
You contend that IBM shares blame for the Nazi Death Camps? Let me ask you this. If you were the IBM rep on the scene, would you have refused them service, after watching them murder a pile of people? I don't think so. Who's at fault here?
andharvey8 1 year ago
@andharvey8 I am a 'liberal douche bag university professor' Dolt.
"If you were the IBM rep on the scene, would you have refused them service, after watching them murder a pile of people?" This is one of the stupidest questions I have ever seen..... Are you mentally challenged?
eaodak 1 year ago
@eaodak Well that would explain it then. I suppose that means that you haven't read the Standard Oil case either, and you're now infecting young minds with your liberal douche-bag philosophies. So I'll ask you again,
If you were a representative of IBM in Germany circa 1942, would you have had the balls to tell the Nazi's to go F themselves, and risk becoming yet another member of a very grim set of statistics?
andharvey8 1 year ago
@andharvey8 "f you were a representative of IBM in Germany circa 1942, would you have had the balls to tell the Nazi's to go F themselves, and risk becoming yet another member of a very grim set of statistics?"
Are you suggesting that Watson HAD to sell these machines or face death?
What idiotic point are you trying desperately to make. Just say it dolt....
eaodak 1 year ago
@eaodak The picture in the video of Hitler and Watson was from 1937, long before anyone knew what was going to happen. The Nazi's hadn't yet invaded anyone.
Regardless, we're not talking about Watson here. Its the German employees who are in question. Either (a) they were Nazis themselves and didn't care that Jews were being killed, or (b) they were "along for the ride" despite their better judgement.
In either case, the corporate profit motive is not to blame for the Holocaust.
andharvey8 1 year ago
@andharvey8 CLEARLY you did not bother to read Black's book....
Actually, we ARE talkign about Watson, even if you restrict your 'scholarship'to this video, he shows a letter to Watson at the run up to the war.
Listen, if you care to be willfully ignorant, that is your business, but you need a pretty thick rug to sustain your claims....
eaodak 1 year ago
@andharvey8 Hitler’s political ideology & intentions, such as elimination of the Jews and the use of poisonous gas, were pretty much clear since the publication of Mein Kampf in 1925-26. And the war had been on the cards since 1933. Who knows how much Watson knew in 1937 but he wasn’t in the dark in 1939 when Hitler announced the "Vernichtung" of the Jewish race in Europe" & Watson “approved the opening of a new Europe-wide school for Hollerith technicians in Berlin”
AzazeIIo 1 year ago
@andharvey8 When Poland was occupied he authorised opening of a new subsidiary with a punch-card printing plant across the street from Warsaw Ghetto and rushed another one in to newly occupied Holland. They vehemently opposed any type of competition in this market and sued potential competitors to maintain their monopoly in that market.
AzazeIIo 1 year ago
@andharvey8 Nobody is blaming IBM for Holocaust, even Black himself separates IBM today from the one in the 30s and 40s. The whole point of this segment was to illustrate how far some corporate entities will go in maintaining their profitability and accumulation of wealth be it privatisation of rain water, ‘trading with the enemy’, which many of the corporations are fined for on the daily basis, to claiming their profits in product used for “cataloguing and dispatching millions of victims”.
AzazeIIo 1 year ago 2
@eaodak The point being:
The video attempts to make the case that Corporations are soulless entities that would gladly sell accounting machinery to facilitate the extermination of the Jews, so long as they're making profits.
The problem with this example: There's a strong possibility that the IBM employees in Germany at the time were not in any kind of position to refuse the demands of the Third Reich.
Sorry to have to spell it out, but some of you Uni types are a little slow on the uptake
andharvey8 1 year ago
@eaodak lol I admire your honesty..
alleygh0st 1 year ago
How to correct a democracy once it has gotten out of control: watch?v=BBezaI0bnAQ&
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
Isn't the Fanta thing a myth?
animalcrosser591 1 year ago
Alright, let's add HIGH FUCKING TREASON to the lists of crimes these corporations have committed! What the fuck!
MikeIronweaver56 1 year ago 57
@MikeIronweaver56
Treason implies that a Corporation has a nationality. Multinational corporations are anything but.
PraPHunk 1 year ago
Apparently at this time money was more imporant than human lives. Also what was the vice president of IBM in this film on in order to say such garbage?
ahilleary1 1 year ago 33
@ahilleary1 "at this time" ... ?
you think things have gotten "better"?
androydnyc 6 months ago
That is so fucked up. "We don't know how the Nazi's got or used our equipment" Then they show a picture of the CEO of IBM eating lunch with Hitler. We live mostly in a civilized culture and what the main problem is , in this day and age is the Business comunity doesn't not. They go by the laws of the jungle. They have the money & have the judges, politicans, cops working for them. They can legally act like Psycho's in our global society and get away with it.
flubno 1 year ago 2
FUCKING IBM elites can rot in hell
carychilton 1 year ago
@carychilton
Oh yes! And they will...you can bet they WILL!
evernetherall 1 year ago
Are the morons who made this movie suggesting that Hitler and Mussolini funded armies that in 1940s dollars cost ONE TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR out of nowhere? Are they honestly suggesting that the response against communism just came about magically? So it had NOTHING to do with the fact that communists were murdering millions of people? How about The Holodomor? That had nothing to do with it? How about the business owners that Stalin murdered and robbed. Of course a reaction would happen.
msredalbert1 1 year ago
Look at these fucking loser leftists comparing everything to Nazis. What a bunch of fucking losers thinking that counts as a logical argument against capitalism. Nazis thought 1+1=2 so math must be wrong too!
leeason1 1 year ago
@leeason1 Goose step much?
redhouse1976 1 year ago
@redhouse1976 I've decided to become a leftist. I will just proceed to compare everything and everyone with "Nazis" to make my point. Yeah, real intellectual!
leeason1 1 year ago
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Holocaust is a fact!Tones of clothes, hairs, bones, etc. of Jews, Polish, Romes after killed in german`s camps in Poland prove it. Real Jews of Abraham, remember that US Jews-the reachest could stop holocaust easilly but they did nothing as there was no political and financial profits of that. Survivals,80000, are still robbed by jewish "claims conference" and live in poverty.Holocaust is nowadays used in NWO propaganda to stop any voice against lucyferian order without God and Jesus Christ!
JezusSlave 1 year ago
I'm american and it just occurred to me - no one has said anything racist about the jews on these videos. No one has called the female advertisers "cunts" or told them to get back in the kitchen. The discussion is coherent and thoughtful... is this youtube?
Wait, who's watching this.... oh yeah, the film is made in CANADA! lol
StinkadoodlePie 1 year ago
@StinkadoodlePie Canadians are no better than anyone else. I know because I am one. There are just more White people here which is why things are more pleasant and there is less crime.
leeason1 1 year ago
Just compare everything to Nazis and Hitler. Wow, these lefty "intellectuals" sure are brilliant!
leeason1 1 year ago
@leeason1 Yea I know right? Those lefties are always using Hitler and Nazi's! It's not like right wing people like Glenn Beck do that! oh wait....
MrIrishDrink 1 year ago
I'm gonna go buy a Fanta. I have to say I think regulations endorsed by corps and thier lobbyists to(in a way) weed out mom and pop competitors and corner a little more of the market is a disaster, and I think companys like wal-mart destroy small communitys. I think there is alot more to ww2 than Nazi's killing Jews. Alot of what is going on in the world right now stems from ww2. I think the plight against the jews was/is overembellished.Not as many jews died, or died the way thats explained.
AphoticAquatic 1 year ago
@AphoticAquatic This is a great comment. You are right about the truths and lies of WWII. By the way, it's good when mom and pop shops close down because Wal-Mart offers much lower prices which increase the quality of life for all the poor people in a community at the expense of a few mom and pops.
leeason1 1 year ago
@leeason1 I guess thats one way to look at it. Hmm. I was thinking I guess more along the lines of other industrys as well, like small meat packers, beer brewers, soda pop, tobacco, etc. Just a couple small local style industrys, regulating small business owners out of business. I see what your saying though, and as I feel one way, my wallet has me inclined to shop at wal-mart. What can I say?lol
AphoticAquatic 1 year ago
@leeason1 um no its not its terrible.. and to add to the pain of these moms and pops, they will more than likely be forced to work for the same company that shit on their dreams for crap pay and crappier benefits.. on another note wal mart does NOTHING for poor people
dbfro1 1 year ago
@leeason1 Sometimes the cheaper prices are at more than just the expense of a few mom and pops....I think paying a bit more in order to sustain a community is worth it. The poor people in a community would benefit more in the long term with a sustainable community than they would because of short-term "band-aid" fixes for their economic problems
dazeity 1 year ago
@dazeity Yeah, then go ahead and pay twice as much for your goods and services. Yeah, that's a brilliant idea right? For everyone to have twice the cost of living to support a handful of home based businesses. Oh, and what happens if those home based businesses BECOME MORE SUCCESSFUL and turn into giant corporations? Then what?
leeason1 1 year ago
It seems alot of different corporations have serious blood on thier hands. From IBM, to Coke and Phillip Morris. As we wonder in aww at the meglomaniac progressing, our fate slowly seals.
AphoticAquatic 1 year ago
@AphoticAquatic How the fuck does Coke have blood on their hands? They sold orange soda to Germans during WWII (probably mostly civilians). That was it.
FatherTime89 1 year ago
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@FatherTime89 "They sold orange soda to Germans during WWII (probably mostly civilians). That was it."
To you, because you're ignorant. I'm not going to sell goods and services to a genocidal society that has thrown the Earth into war. Not only that but the ingredients to make it, like sugar, were being restricted. We were saving our fucking GREASE to DONATE at the time. Hello?
Starry2000 11 months ago
I fucking hate Michael Moore. Fat bastard.
AphoticAquatic 1 year ago
@AphoticAquatic The Corporation: A film bashing corporations CREATED by a corporation called the Big Picture Media Corporation.
leeason1 1 year ago
@leeason1 Thats pretty funny.
AphoticAquatic 1 year ago
@AphoticAquatic He's a fat piece of shit.
msredalbert1 1 year ago
Support the mission and work of Machbar and others that are rasing our consciousness- buy the DVD's and give contributions. Also, buy and read Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins. And please, as much as possible, let's stop buying food, makeup, etc. from publicly traded companies. Let's support small, local, sustainable businesses. As much as possible, use herbs not pharmaceuticals. And start growing your own food- even if it's just a few sprouts, herbs or salad greens.
Cairokmt 1 year ago
RIP Howard Zinn, what a great author
jampt1989 1 year ago 2
@jampt1989 He was a fucking loser.
leeason1 1 year ago
Its only a matter of time before this becomes illegal. We only need a big disaster something like a nuclear bomb on a major city.
cookiekoen 1 year ago
can someone please tell me what fascism means... i dont understand online google definitions =/
EcFXSN1P3RX 1 year ago
@EcFXSN1P3RX its means mixsure of business and government. We live in a facist governement. Schools teach it wrong they say that communist is to the left and fascism is to the right but its wrong. Government control is to the left and no government to the right. On the left its communist and facism and on the right its have no government, Anarchy.
andrewrosso 1 year ago
1. Jews and Arabs suck and are the same race.
2. Corporations need well incomed customers.
3. I support these film makers so ill send them some milk!
iamdiaperman 1 year ago
I can't believe that IBM VP. Your company had a part in the largest genocide of modern history and you're spouting some BS about dots that aren't connected? God, the irresponsibility and arrogance is disgusting.
allconsumingfire92 1 year ago
corporations are formed by decree from government. they dont occur naturally. without government allowing businesses to incorporate, you would have no corporations, only sole proprietorship and partnerships that would stay small naturally because the owners would be personally responsible for all debts and personally responsible for any lawsuits.
government is the root problem. it has the power, companies dont. they can only get power through colluding with government.
michaelpshipley1 1 year ago
@michaelpshipley1
the government does not hold all power, corporations and wealthy individuals also have power.
even without the government, businessmen would still pollute, exploit, and externalize costs. Yes we need less government, but we have to take things one step at a time, changing the way our social system works.
until people and organizations are accountable for their actions by our social system alone, we cannot fully abolish the government.
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple
not saying we should have no government, just remove the collusion which allows incorporation. incorporation was only meant for public projects that were not very profitable so businesses would not do it unless they had protection. now your dog can incorporate. too much.
michaelpshipley1 1 year ago
@michaelpshipley1 (cont.)
'abolish the government' is not a strategy its a goal, and if we want to achieve that goal in a way that does not leave a power vacuum which is sure to be filled by yet another hierarchical system. we need to transition into a more directly democratic system where individuals cannot insulate themselves from the effects of their actions. companies should be run by their workers, communities should govern themselves and no man should own the rights of another man.
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple
im not saying abolish government completely. just sever the collusion (incorporation) which is the root cause of the problem. the only government i'd abolish in america is the u.s. federal government. keep the state governments.
direct democracy is mob rule. constitutional democracy is better.
companies run by workers is communism. doesnt work.
i agree communities should govern themselves and the rights of the individual are the most important, not the "collective."
michaelpshipley1 1 year ago
@michaelpshipley1
constitutions and direct democracy are not contradictory and direct democracy refers to the way laws are made not to lawlessness. I think your thinking of Ochlocracy.
companies run by workers is not communism, communism means that all products are in a warehouse and if you need something you get it (basicly), and worker run businesses do work. (there are about 300 ncba style worker owned businesses in the us and thats only one type of democratic business system)
(cont.)
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple
well if you mean workers organizing buying out or starting a business, thats fine. but i wouldnt agree with government forcing current business owners to sell out to the workers! successful entrepreneurs are rare. if it was easy then half of all business startups wouldnt fail. most people are not good managers/owners. have you ever read the peter principle?
michaelpshipley1 1 year ago
@michaelpshipley1
I dont think the government needs to force owners to do anything, but our current system strongly discourages worker ownership. for example, irs recognized business structures (partnerships, LLCs, corps, etc.) are all hierarchal. with a few owners who are generally completely isolated from the workers, and/or have no obligation to anyone but their shareholders. a simple way to make progress would be to recognize one (or more) democratic structure for those that want to try it.
aSheeple 1 year ago
@michaelpshipley1
I think the rights of the individual can form a natural balance to promote the greater good. but only if that individual is not allowed to inhibit the freedom of other individuals. I think ethical egoism would slowly destroy the human race.
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple
i dont really believe in the "greater good." its a dangerous concept, like patriotism, or communism.
i think "ethical egoism" is fine as long as your normal. normal people know instinctively you need people to survive so its in their interest to care about other people. its why you feel bad when you see someone hurt, even if you dont know them. you subconsciously feel your security has been diminished. to be otherwise is abnormal, a sociopath.
michaelpshipley1 1 year ago
@michaelpshipley1
I do agree that it is a part of human nature to care about others, but if were going to embrace ethical egoism then that psychopath has the right to do as he pleases and thats a problem, and I dont see a way to fix that psychopath problem without invoking the concept of greater good, as within ethical egoism, there is only concern for self interest. and if that psychopath believes mass murder to be in his self interest, he can commit mass murder.
aSheeple 1 year ago
Corporations have no loyalty or patriotism save that which serves their bottom line. If a corporation can make money colluding with the enemies of the United States or plotting its demise--then it will do so. This is why it is DANGEROUS to allow corporations to make political donations and lobby Congress.
We need a Constitutional Amendment to abolish "Corporate Personhood" and ban corporations from politics
wbaltzley 1 year ago 2
this is disgusting! what is ever more disgusting is denying when the proof is staring you the face....
Hottielvr 1 year ago 3
@Hottielvr I don't want to have children anymore, I don't want them to grow up in a world this ugly.
Decoybl 1 year ago 2
How did Fanta kill people again?
shine2rust 1 year ago
@shine2rust LOL!!!! HAHA, great question!
msredalbert1 1 year ago
...Yes, but if America stopped trading with Germany in the 40's, they would have went elsewhere and had their war machine helped along by someone else...
afterdavit 1 year ago
explain more
Hivento 1 year ago
i heard henry ford was an admirer of hitler so ford does not surprise me but IBM and coke certainly does
fleurgi 1 year ago
@fleurgi actually none of it surprises me bc this time period had alot of antisemetic hatred. ppl think that only hitler had these ideas with elimating what he considered inferior races but really eugenics was so popular in this time and phrenology so...
fleurgi 1 year ago
IBM and Coke are evil ¬¬ That's why I don't drink anymore Coke. (I don't drink coke anymore just because Coke is too much sugar. Same with other soda drinks)
coldplay109 1 year ago
They just did business, to provide services just as any other business, you say they are evil but look at how the german gov't allowed the persecution of the jews, who is more evil, its the gov't that has to protect fraud, criminals,force, and their rights, it wasn't a legit gov't
A gov't is there to promote how men are to live, what is right, and what is wrong. But in a way i do agree with you, just keep these arguments in mind.
Hivento 1 year ago
IBM has been very successful in keeping this quiet. I've worked in computers for 35 years and never knew this.
(As for copyright infringement. I don't know the case, but while you can copyright your specific sentences, you can't copyright historical facts. And getting the historical facts out is the main thing that needs to be done.)
KeithCanadaa 2 years ago 8
Yes IBM and Coke did business with Hitler - and Fanta was advertised as the Fuhrer's Soft Drink! (I have copies of old ads) but they didn't mention the fact that the INSURANCE COMPANIES had ALL the data on all of the camps, and sent inspectors regularly. In other words, everyone knew what was going on. But we shouldn't just blame the corporations because when people in the US weren't getting their letters returned from Aunt Greta and Uncle Josef, they didn't ask any questions either!
jumpygrouch 2 years ago
meh. Chompy, Zimmy and Moo always spout this crap.
corncat 2 years ago
i call godwin
spikedgav 2 years ago
1XMarksSpot < i believe the Illuminati is real and does thrive in North America through IBM. and that soon.. if we do not find a way of stopping them . we will die from not having the chip
goldenagedrummer15 2 years ago
HI MR SHULL :D
bangitsnimmy 2 years ago
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junkyassmonkey 2 years ago
So.....WHO owns the corporations?......Just curious.
gorylatko 2 years ago
@gorylatko The international Banking Elite like the Rothschilds family.
1XMarksSpot 2 years ago
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happiness6589746 2 years ago
there is a country which is still virgin to corporate exploitation, and thats the north korea, surely the corporate presence there is minimal which it only receives donation, we should all follow north korea's example of not being the slave of a corporation, better yet copy our system of government after our communist friend north korea
happiness6589746 2 years ago
@happiness6589746
Lol, splendid point, but North Korea is a nation-corporation. They are the ultimate corporation with the ultimate monopoly.
Not that I am a corporation-basher myself. Corporations are cliché just like women - can't live with them, can't live without them.
generalpatton3 2 years ago 3
IBM
Insidious
Bloodletting
Managers
SelamatJarin2012 2 years ago
@SelamatJarin2012
IBM = IBeaM = Illuminati
1XMarksSpot 2 years ago
that Vice President talking in the video is full of shit, IBM saw Hitler as a lucrative trading partner and went along for the ride, they didn't give a shit
tfrenn 2 years ago 24
you Americans fucked up everything with these big ass corporations
MetalManiac66 2 years ago
we sewed the seeds.
NiGhtMarEs0nWax 2 years ago 2
I'm Canadian, and well, we are built up of American Corp's such as McDonalads, Starbucks, etc. and its our choice to shop at these establishments and send money to American Corporations. This is not only Canada, but the entire world. There is a McDonalds in every country. How many people purchase, and even represent Nike and Coca Cola? Its our fault, not anyone elses
randybtown 2 years ago 17
@randybtown, I agree, but in some cases there isn't much choice because it isn't so easy to find things made/owned in Canada anymore and things that say 'made in Canada' aren't always actually made here because of loopholes in the law or are partially made here. I disagree about Starbucks though, I know no one who prefers it over Tim Hortons.
wander099 1 year ago
@randybtown Umm........McDonald's is ISRAELI Owned. Oh and If you are Canadian then YOU are also AMERICAN. The U.S. shares the same continent with Canada you realize. The U.S. does not really export ANYTHING anymore. Nike shoes are actually manufactured in China. BP Is an English Corporation as are most of the Gold mining companies on the North and South American continents. Do a little research Randybtown
naomirthy 1 year ago
@randybtown Exactly. The totalitarian idiots who produced this movie want to take away everyone's freedom of choice. What a bunch of sickos. Move to Cuba if you want to lose your freedoms. I'll keep mine, thank you.
leeason1 1 year ago
@randybtown it's both our fault and their fault
bullbunnies 1 year ago
We Americans had nothing to do with it.. learn your history ... We Americans were born into this just like you.. America the Corporation is "Owned" but not by Us the Americans... Just please do the research and see who really owns the Corporation of America and most all other countries.
maryelsia 2 years ago 4
Sorry maryelsia, we can't escape fault as Americans. We care more about prices being low then we do about where they come from and the suffering of the people who make them.
bsbeaver 2 years ago
I see the kind of American you describe as being a dieing breed. A new awaking is sweeping this planet and human beings all over our world are starting to open their eyes to what is really going on. I think more then not caring about the suffering of others..we simply did not know. We are not spoon fed this kind of truth.. and we were taught to trust the spoon.. As we become aware of what is really going on... we do care! You want to blame the lied to or or the ones who lied?
maryelsia 2 years ago
I agree with you, I see people who have been "blind" to the truth opening their eyes, with our bought and paid for news media, what a waste, a lie, showing happy happy, even many teenagers are through all the bullshit.
badattitude77769 2 years ago 3
I agree, but the majority of us hate them just the same. Democracy is an illusion.
tomvercetti 2 years ago
The rise of corporations is responsible for government actions? We blame the corporations and NOT the Governments?? Good God... how can you not blame those in power for ENABLING corporations to do evil. Without the help of those in POWER, Corporations are POWERLESS. You have to look at the people who ENABLE greed to manifest into evil. Greed is human NATURE, you cannot get around that. Attack those in POWER, since they are the true EVIL, that enables all other evils. Anarchy is PEACE.
daveyg07 2 years ago
So is it just me, or is everyone else who watched this never supporting IBM again?
MercedesBenz1994 2 years ago 2
I bought an espresso machine that turns out to be one of the company's that used slave Jewish labor in Nazi Germany. I was disgussed when I found out. You just never know how what you do and buy can be traces back to something so incredibly sinister.
mathproof 2 years ago
Yeah I know what you mean. I found out that starbucks is helping the ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza and the WestBank. Now I quit buying starbucks products
saltydog78 2 years ago
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mathproof 2 years ago
or..coke?
Shouldn't support any major corp. Support the small independant companies.
Elite1987 2 years ago
My problem with this is Hitler was adamantly against capitalism. He considered it a Jewish monstrosity. Ironically in Mein Kempf he said capitalism was the road to Marxism. This is nothing communist propaganda.
bubuh1117 2 years ago
The Bush family sold weapons to the nazis. The catholic church (jesuites) also supported the nazis at the beginning of thier regiem. Of coarse we know how the church felt about Jews or non converts. The present pope was a nazi youth. Lots of photo documented proof if you search. Im not a Jew but i regard the truth.
journeyquest1 2 years ago
godwins law in full effect
hisoj 2 years ago
@hisoj Tell me about it. It seems that is the only thing leftists can do, compare everything to Nazis.
msredalbert1 1 year ago
I am tired of all you patriots of fiction. You have no country, you are just level headed slaves. Did you think matrix was just made for your entertainment. Why do we all have this my country attitude, when all its gov does is lead your family into stupid slaughter as military officers & pawns. Wake up, the U.S republic was high jacked under the colour of arms ages ago.
I don't care who you are once you are white, this land is not yours. You are children of murderers, so what are you then? no?
Avabz 2 years ago