Ironic that the car was thinking because it must prevent a big one with jumping cars,and was this trouble coincidence that Dan lost his life because the car began later,it was a fatal coincidence.
more downforce underneath the car? It's a big mistake. With this configuration, cornering speed will be extremely high and chances to have a dangerous situation like Las Vegas will increase. The solution is: downforce only from the wings (less downforce as a whole), more like 1990's CART racecars.
more downforce underneath the car? It's a big mistake. With this configuration, cornering speed will be extremely high and chances to have a dangerous situation like Las Vegas will increase. The solution is: downforce only from the wings (less downforce as a whole), more like 1990's CART racecars.
They could have just got the Panoz chassis like in the Champ Car World Series in 2007 instead of the Dallara crap, nonetheless I respect what they are trying to do to improve exciting racing and more importantly driver safety.
It's a fucking spec series, that's rubbish!! Why the fuck is Indycar so afraid to let Lola build cars?? Are they afraid of true competition?? Instead of competition we get ugly fucking lemon Dallaras which have a lethal flying problem.
Seems to me that the new rear "bumper" pods intended to keep cars from launching over the rear tire during rear end collisions will do a good job of that. HOWEVER, on the other hand, the lower edge of those pods seems much higher than the nose cone of the car. This means in a rear end collision, the rear car could potentially submarine under the car in front of it. I don't exactly like the outcome of that scenario either!
Is it just me, or does Jon Beekhuis seem like the biggest dweeb in the history of motorsports? I mean, he looks and sounds like a Science or Calculus high school teacher than a former race car driver.
Sad to see you leave so soon Dan...will think of you every time I watch an Indy car race....what a wonderful ambassador you were for the sport. God Bless you buddy!
@fredomeireles The "classic open wheel" disappeared when the Lotus people showed up. OR, it disappeared when they put wings on 'em. Then again, real Indy 500 races ended when the "pits" were no longer "pits" on the front stretch?
The design kinda harkens back to the very early 80's cars like the Gurney Eagle and the "Batmobile" Danny Ongais drove- and nearly got killed in. . .
I'm sure when these cars hit the track, the teams will have they're own aero/body kits and the cars will looks moderately different to what we see here. I'm curious to see what Penske will develop.
There shouldn't even have been a design competition to start with, write an updated version of the early 90s rules and let the manufacturers battle it out on the track instead of the board room.
Makes me sad to think that we'll be stuck with this for x amount of years when they had the chance to create something great. The engine rules are a step in the right direction though.
I don't care if those hideous drag reducing lumps were Dallara's solution. Dallara have already inflicted that pig ugly 2003 car on us for almost a decade. Time for IndyCar and Cotman to step in and legislate that the area in front of the rear wheels must not be covered like that in any bodykit. It's bad enough having the rear bumpers, which also NEED to be made less obtrusive. Lola's design got them right, although I'm against such health and safety in the first place.
What a fucking hideously ugly piece of fucking camel shit!!! The 2012 Dallara is the ugliest fucking open wheeler ever. Bring back CHAMPCARS: even 10 year old Reynards and Lolas are 100 times better than this 2012 Indycar turd. Fucking Crapwagon rubbish!!
If only Conway hadn't gotten into that accident and we wouldn't have to deal with this ridiculous rear bumper. We might as well roll out Daytona Prototypes.
Lets put a steel bar around the entire chassis to prevent any kind of contact, like the go-carts at the Mini-Golf Land.
…and speed bumps on the tracks to keep the speeds down. SAFETY FIRST!!!
@ispankmidgets247 "whatever happened to 800+hp with 40lbs boost" Friends of mine were at that Michigan race, sitting about 2 rows from where those fans were decapitated. That's where that formula went. Quite frankly, watching Paul Tracy do 247 at MIS wasn't any fun.
Since we'll never see record speeds again, what good is 800 hp? Do fans really show up rooting for the most boost? Didn't NASCAR bury CART with 30 mph slower cars? Can you do 800 hp on a current Indyca budget ($2-$8 million)?
@geek49203 actually the plan in Indycar is for them to exceed track records at nearly all the ovals, at the least. That's one of the goals of the new Indycar.... to produce record breaking speed AND good racing at the same time.
@erasetoimprove "...actually the plan in Indycar is for them..." I'll tell the Indycar officials next time I interview them. I'll let Penske know when I see him in a couple of days at the press conference. (pause) My neighbor was next to the people killed at MIS -- you seriously think that anyone wants 247 mph at MIS, or 254 at California? More vertigo in Texas? What you say cannot be insured, has no way to pay for itself, and produces a bad show.
I am excited for the new chassis. Something different. I'm really excited for 2013 with the aero kits. I'd like to see the creativity and designs the teams will come up with for body styles.
The whole rear bumper and fenders thing is screwing with me. I understand that it's more aero - great, whatever - but if they want more aero just freakin close in all of the wheels and use LMP chassis instead. This is just silly. That is NOT an open wheel car. Sorry.
Still, it's exciting to see something new and for them dto finally be doing away with the Crapwagon formula in favor of something decidedly more CART/Champcar.
@TheCounter005 This car is no less open wheeled than the Coyote chassis AJ Foyt raced in the late 70s. The wheels are plenty exposed enough to call it open wheel.
@DBoy02 I can see where your comparison comes from, but there is a huge difference between what you see on the Coyote and what they've done with this design. The new car, as Beekhuis said, has an undercarriage that comes out past the wheels. Plus(I'm just going to call them) "fenders" actually come up almost to the same level as the top of the wheel while also wrapping around them.The Coyote also didn't have a bumper =) This is no open wheel car.
@TheCounter005 The front wheels are entirely exposed, and the rear wheels are about 60% exposed(if you count the bottom area that contacts the ground as being exposed, which I do). This is more than enough to consider it open wheel. The front wheels being fully exposed in and of itself should be enough to consider it such.
The rear wheel shrouds are not fenders. Fenders by definition COMPLETELY, not partially, enshroud a wheel.
@TheCounter005 I think the same, but it might be better in case of safety. But lets see how it really performs. And i think we will see other solutions in 2013.
@TheCounter005 They say it's for aero, but my understanding is that it is for safety. It prevents wheel-on-wheel contact and one car going over top of another.
Standing starts give chance to more action at the first turn, some will start well, some may go to anti-stall. It makes sense, as in some races, the first 2 or 3 rows are lined up, while the rest can't do it on time for the green.
As for the car itself, it looks OK, but I'm not too fond of that piece of bodywork in front of the rear wheels. The "bumper" could've been a bit more subtle, like on the LOLA design. Not a fan of the intake, as I wanted a more CARTish look.
@Pabig93 bitch at the fans...they don't show up to them (or watch on TV), therefore track owners don't make any money, so no races at Milwaukee, New Hampshire and Kentucky. And possibly more.
Meanwhile street races draw crowds for all three days (practice/qualifying/race) and TV viewers more so than the ovals.
Thank god they're not bringing these cars back to the Gold Coast. They look seriously crap
drf22 5 days ago
the body will take some getting used to but damn i love a turbocharger...
RIP Dan Wheldon
burton0078 1 week ago
Ironic that the car was thinking because it must prevent a big one with jumping cars,and was this trouble coincidence that Dan lost his life because the car began later,it was a fatal coincidence.
Arianovich 2 weeks ago
perfect car for Barrichello, he's the best test and increase the performance
arcebrasil 3 weeks ago
So the kits won't be on the cars this year? Not until 2013
EricSHinton 3 weeks ago
Dang. RIP Dan. He lives on with his work.
mylifeisJDM 1 month ago
Best soundtrack ever!
mylifeisJDM 1 month ago
I´m gonna love onboard cams 0:16
Ikeochoa 1 month ago
eugh, it makes me long for the pre IRL days even more
JontieDesario 1 month ago
Does anybody know the name of the song that starts 1:03 ? I need that song, thanks.
IndyCarDriver 1 month ago
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eliasdiseno1 1 month ago
the song..... Justice / Genesis
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more downforce underneath the car? It's a big mistake. With this configuration, cornering speed will be extremely high and chances to have a dangerous situation like Las Vegas will increase. The solution is: downforce only from the wings (less downforce as a whole), more like 1990's CART racecars.
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more downforce underneath the car? It's a big mistake. With this configuration, cornering speed will be extremely high and chances to have a dangerous situation like Las Vegas will increase. The solution is: downforce only from the wings (less downforce as a whole), more like 1990's CART racecars.
riccardot516 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
They should have stayed with the old cars, the new one looks like a cross between an F1 (front) and a Le mans (Rear)
XTera22 2 months ago
R.I.P Dan
MrCalebvideos 2 months ago
They could have just got the Panoz chassis like in the Champ Car World Series in 2007 instead of the Dallara crap, nonetheless I respect what they are trying to do to improve exciting racing and more importantly driver safety.
bigdc48 2 months ago
rip!!!
ToroQ3000 3 months ago
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It's a fucking spec series, that's rubbish!! Why the fuck is Indycar so afraid to let Lola build cars?? Are they afraid of true competition?? Instead of competition we get ugly fucking lemon Dallaras which have a lethal flying problem.
Lock007i 3 months ago
Seems to me that the new rear "bumper" pods intended to keep cars from launching over the rear tire during rear end collisions will do a good job of that. HOWEVER, on the other hand, the lower edge of those pods seems much higher than the nose cone of the car. This means in a rear end collision, the rear car could potentially submarine under the car in front of it. I don't exactly like the outcome of that scenario either!
2002Mark2002 3 months ago
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Linkto4 3 months ago
I can't barely hear anything, the video sound quality is very low.
Linkto4 3 months ago
RIP Dan Wheldon
steviebutt2002 4 months ago 3
Is it just me, or does Jon Beekhuis seem like the biggest dweeb in the history of motorsports? I mean, he looks and sounds like a Science or Calculus high school teacher than a former race car driver.
LMCMInterloper 4 months ago
Sad to see you leave so soon Dan...will think of you every time I watch an Indy car race....what a wonderful ambassador you were for the sport. God Bless you buddy!
PDSDrivingSchool 4 months ago
Please, what's the name of the song in the start and in the last part of the video? Thanks!
eapompeu 4 months ago
The very car he tested would have saved his life. What a shame
TheRohBoat 4 months ago
・・・・・Good bye Dan,Good bye HERO!! and Thank you
kimifanF2007 4 months ago in playlist kimifanF2007 さんのお気に入り 2
R.I.P Dan Wheldon.......This car would have save your life.
darkness2121 4 months ago 2
@darkness2121 i totally agree, with the protection behind the rear wheels it should prevent the cars to take off.
reading70 4 months ago
i can´t wait to see a rear flat tire destroy the full side pods!!!!
sinubiochex 4 months ago 4
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fredomeireles 4 months ago
@fredomeireles The "classic open wheel" disappeared when the Lotus people showed up. OR, it disappeared when they put wings on 'em. Then again, real Indy 500 races ended when the "pits" were no longer "pits" on the front stretch?
geek49203 4 months ago
like everything but the back bumper thing...makes it look like the batmobile.
camm1991 4 months ago
Anything that uses Genesis by Justice as background music is automatically fucking sweet.
F1000X 4 months ago
The design kinda harkens back to the very early 80's cars like the Gurney Eagle and the "Batmobile" Danny Ongais drove- and nearly got killed in. . .
I'm sure when these cars hit the track, the teams will have they're own aero/body kits and the cars will looks moderately different to what we see here. I'm curious to see what Penske will develop.
BlueFox284 4 months ago
@BlueFox284 - No-one will have their own bodykits until 2013 at the earliest. So we're stuck with Dallara's ugly bodywork for at least a year.
klesterchopperchipe 4 months ago
just wait for the kits in 2013 ...
Neuxramus48 4 months ago
front of the car looks sweet.. rear looks terrible
notyetpro1 4 months ago 19
@notyetpro1 Not that sweet to me... the nose's too round! It should be more pointy.
VWatch07 2 months ago
INDYCAR— SEMI-Open-Wheel Racing!!!
…coming 2012 to your paid Versus cable channel.
Hunker down and grab a bottle… or we can start watching F1.
Achenato 4 months ago 4
@Achenato Get back to me when F1 races on ovals and legalizes ground effect. IndyCars are the fastest open wheel cars in the world.
IndyCarAce 4 months ago
Does anybody know the music at the beginning ?
Flori207 4 months ago
@Flori207 Justice-Genesis.
RealRacer2442 4 months ago
@Flori207 I have heard it on Need For Speed : Undercover.
2008PowerStrokeF450 4 months ago
Wow that's one hideous car.
There shouldn't even have been a design competition to start with, write an updated version of the early 90s rules and let the manufacturers battle it out on the track instead of the board room.
Makes me sad to think that we'll be stuck with this for x amount of years when they had the chance to create something great. The engine rules are a step in the right direction though.
petterupetteru 4 months ago
Serious wheel to wheel accidents were never a frequent occurence until IRL crapwagons and dumb pack racing with underpowered cars became the norm.
klesterchopperchipe 4 months ago 2
I don't care if those hideous drag reducing lumps were Dallara's solution. Dallara have already inflicted that pig ugly 2003 car on us for almost a decade. Time for IndyCar and Cotman to step in and legislate that the area in front of the rear wheels must not be covered like that in any bodykit. It's bad enough having the rear bumpers, which also NEED to be made less obtrusive. Lola's design got them right, although I'm against such health and safety in the first place.
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What a fucking hideously ugly piece of fucking camel shit!!! The 2012 Dallara is the ugliest fucking open wheeler ever. Bring back CHAMPCARS: even 10 year old Reynards and Lolas are 100 times better than this 2012 Indycar turd. Fucking Crapwagon rubbish!!
Lock007i 4 months ago 2
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Lock007i 4 months ago
If only Conway hadn't gotten into that accident and we wouldn't have to deal with this ridiculous rear bumper. We might as well roll out Daytona Prototypes.
Lets put a steel bar around the entire chassis to prevent any kind of contact, like the go-carts at the Mini-Golf Land.
…and speed bumps on the tracks to keep the speeds down. SAFETY FIRST!!!
Achenato 4 months ago 4
@Achenato The problem isn't that the driver got into the car. The problem is that the car might get PAST the fence. See also, "Le Mans 1955".
geek49203 4 months ago
That car is just far too ugly for my taste...
JRRacing64 4 months ago 4
the rear "bumper" is to help keep cars from launching into the air.
underbird 4 months ago
Please remove the rear bumper and the rear wheel ramps! If anything it would at least save the teams a little money.
stevemoore12 4 months ago
The engine sounds like the F1 V6 turbo.
ChampCarforlife 4 months ago
@ChampCarforlife it's a V6 Turbo, actually. I think is twinturbo.
ninosummers 4 months ago
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I know! I was listening to the sounds of the F1 V6 engines and they sound very similar than the Indy V6 engine.
ChampCarforlife 4 months ago
whatever happened to 800+hp with 40lbs boost
ispankmidgets247 4 months ago
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@ispankmidgets247 "whatever happened to 800+hp with 40lbs boost" Friends of mine were at that Michigan race, sitting about 2 rows from where those fans were decapitated. That's where that formula went. Quite frankly, watching Paul Tracy do 247 at MIS wasn't any fun.
Since we'll never see record speeds again, what good is 800 hp? Do fans really show up rooting for the most boost? Didn't NASCAR bury CART with 30 mph slower cars? Can you do 800 hp on a current Indyca budget ($2-$8 million)?
geek49203 4 months ago
@geek49203 actually the plan in Indycar is for them to exceed track records at nearly all the ovals, at the least. That's one of the goals of the new Indycar.... to produce record breaking speed AND good racing at the same time.
erasetoimprove 4 months ago
@erasetoimprove "...actually the plan in Indycar is for them..." I'll tell the Indycar officials next time I interview them. I'll let Penske know when I see him in a couple of days at the press conference. (pause) My neighbor was next to the people killed at MIS -- you seriously think that anyone wants 247 mph at MIS, or 254 at California? More vertigo in Texas? What you say cannot be insured, has no way to pay for itself, and produces a bad show.
geek49203 4 months ago
I am excited for the new chassis. Something different. I'm really excited for 2013 with the aero kits. I'd like to see the creativity and designs the teams will come up with for body styles.
spellgo 4 months ago 2
Standing starts my ass.
greatassistant 4 months ago
The whole rear bumper and fenders thing is screwing with me. I understand that it's more aero - great, whatever - but if they want more aero just freakin close in all of the wheels and use LMP chassis instead. This is just silly. That is NOT an open wheel car. Sorry.
Still, it's exciting to see something new and for them dto finally be doing away with the Crapwagon formula in favor of something decidedly more CART/Champcar.
TheCounter005 4 months ago 16
@TheCounter005 amen brother
kvkTR 4 months ago
@TheCounter005 dude u read my mind
ObeyTheSystem93 4 months ago
@TheCounter005 This car is no less open wheeled than the Coyote chassis AJ Foyt raced in the late 70s. The wheels are plenty exposed enough to call it open wheel.
DBoy02 4 months ago
@DBoy02 I can see where your comparison comes from, but there is a huge difference between what you see on the Coyote and what they've done with this design. The new car, as Beekhuis said, has an undercarriage that comes out past the wheels. Plus(I'm just going to call them) "fenders" actually come up almost to the same level as the top of the wheel while also wrapping around them.The Coyote also didn't have a bumper =) This is no open wheel car.
TheCounter005 4 months ago
@TheCounter005 The front wheels are entirely exposed, and the rear wheels are about 60% exposed(if you count the bottom area that contacts the ground as being exposed, which I do). This is more than enough to consider it open wheel. The front wheels being fully exposed in and of itself should be enough to consider it such.
The rear wheel shrouds are not fenders. Fenders by definition COMPLETELY, not partially, enshroud a wheel.
IMO, this car looks awesome.
DBoy02 4 months ago
@TheCounter005 I think the same, but it might be better in case of safety. But lets see how it really performs. And i think we will see other solutions in 2013.
t3hroOf 4 months ago
@TheCounter005 They say it's for aero, but my understanding is that it is for safety. It prevents wheel-on-wheel contact and one car going over top of another.
carsismeZ06 3 weeks ago
I personally hate it right now but I guess I'll have to just get used to it.
LostHighwayFilms 4 months ago 2
standing starts please
johnthedude 4 months ago
...alright, I was thinking about this before, but I'm sold on it now, seeing the 2012 car in action:
The wrong car won.
RRVCrinale 4 months ago 5
Nice car!!!!
saminhaturbinada 4 months ago
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33kalam 4 months ago
@33kalam didn't listen at 2:05 ?
fleshwoundNPG 4 months ago
@fleshwoundNPG sorry about that
33kalam 4 months ago
i actually made that comment right after i started watching
33kalam 4 months ago
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33kalam 4 months ago
More engines, more aero! I think indy cars heading the right direction finally!
oneofakind32 4 months ago
Standing starts give chance to more action at the first turn, some will start well, some may go to anti-stall. It makes sense, as in some races, the first 2 or 3 rows are lined up, while the rest can't do it on time for the green.
As for the car itself, it looks OK, but I'm not too fond of that piece of bodywork in front of the rear wheels. The "bumper" could've been a bit more subtle, like on the LOLA design. Not a fan of the intake, as I wanted a more CARTish look.
Sounds awesome though.
PAXTONF1ob 4 months ago
Standing starts on road courses, yes please! Much more exciting than a rolling start.
nickyp28 4 months ago
What's bad about standing starts?
KINGOSWALD 4 months ago
@KINGOSWALD Boring, requires less skill, and its an european tradition.
IndyCarBlog 4 months ago
this engine sounds too faint. i wanna hear it SCREAM!
franneck1989 4 months ago
I vomited at 3:23
I want more ovals and please NO standing starts. 5 Ovals in 2012 is a big big joke.
Pabig93 4 months ago
@Pabig93 bitch at the fans...they don't show up to them (or watch on TV), therefore track owners don't make any money, so no races at Milwaukee, New Hampshire and Kentucky. And possibly more.
Meanwhile street races draw crowds for all three days (practice/qualifying/race) and TV viewers more so than the ovals.
SUPPLY/DEMAND. Simple.
fleshwoundNPG 4 months ago
This video is the one on the 2012 car.So far has lot fact. It is about time.We more video like this.They should give more information on the new car.
ebuck175 4 months ago
my spine tingled at 0:18
Dogman36 4 months ago
sounds incredible
Steve8518 4 months ago
loooks cool :D
tsukasa2k6 4 months ago
NO STANDING START!!!
IndyCarBlog 4 months ago
@IndyCarBlog Standing start yes!
VWatch07 4 months ago
@VWatch07
We need to have standing starts.
ChampCarforlife 4 months ago
Did he say standing starts?
cliffkram 4 months ago
it looks awesome
nickforthetitle 4 months ago