The problem with solar is that it requires fully 2% of the land to power a growing global power use (1% if GaAs fresnel arrays). Conventional panels convert the other 85% of light into much infrared. Storage such as 96% eff LiFePO4 batteries MUST be robotically mass produced (as with the arrays themselves).
Power towers and molten salt heat storage is the other option, much better than troughs.
Go to my channel for more about the parameters and land required for solar and its storage.
Thorium is just the same bullshit like Uranium. A nuclear power plant does not ask how many radiation it is allowed to release when it explodes. In Germany we had the Thorium-Powered THTR-300 and it was shit. And we have 20 % renewables now – and we will go for 100 %. Nuclear Power Kills starting with Mining ending with radioactive Waste!
Before criticizing, please realize the differences between the stupid light water reactor (in use today) and the MSR. LWR "wants to blow up" because it pressurizes water and needs water to cool the core. That is very stupid even though (usually) engineered quite well. It also spits out 100 TIMES the wastes (which lasts 500 times longer) because its fuel is only ~1% fissioned before it "poisons" itself.
MSR (and LFTR) needs NO water and CAN'T meltdown...
Also, they don't need to be engineered for safety, If parts were to melt or if the whole thing broke in half in an earthquake, damage would be like "just a radioactive room" for 300 years (the mix cools which is the opposite of the LWR!). That's not good but much better than whole cities being radioactive for thousands of years!
That said, I prefer a global initiative to build robotic solar and LiFePO4 battery factories... It's GOT to be cheap to compete!
@Boehri5vor12 The THTR-300 was not a molten salt reactor. The MSR is a superior concept and is very well suited for thorium. It isn't the thorium itself which is safer, its the rector design. Thorium is a byproduct of rare-earth metals which are essential for renewable energy and most new technologies. We wouldn't have to mine any new thorium.
@Boehri5vor12 Would you care to document your claim that Germany now gets 20% of its energy from "renewables?" Would that be wind, solar, hydro, or what?
I only have got the numbers of the Year 2010: Hydro: 3.4 %, Wind: 6.2 %, Bio-Mass: 4.7 %, Photovoltaic: 1.9 %, bio gene waste burning: 0.8%. So in Sum it was 17 %. But in the first half of 2011 we had more than 20 % renewables. (Source: all Wikipedia). The renewables will exceed nuclear this year the first time: Renewables: 19.9 %, Nuclear: 17.7 % (2010: 22.4 %) (Source: Extrapolation in a Newspaper). Regards Boehri
I’m not talking about cow farts, I am talking about the strongest nuclear reactor in our solar system – the sun. In 8 Minutes it sends the Primary Energy to earth, that is needed by all countries in 1 year. To make it usable you need some technology – but we are working on it (Solar-Thermal Powerstations, Wind turbines, Methaneisation (for storage and transportation of erergy), …). And 20 % is already a good number, isn’t it?
The answer is simple. There is a Nuclear industry that stands to LOSE a lot of money in the switch over to a cheaper and CLEANER source of energy.. and that's what it's ALL about right??
Keep trying. I'd suggest (if you are not already), joining EnergyFromThorium on Facebook, and making sure members are aware IN ADVANCE when an electronic town hall is going down. Get them to vote-up your video, and help submit similar questions. Be sure to ping me in advance too. I'm Canadian but might be able to help with any needed video assets.
If we are able, and do purchase Thorium-based LFTR's from China in ten years, it will still be a VERY large net benefit for everyone. I really don't care who invests and perfects this technology first, just as long as it is done. However, I would agree that it sure would be nice to transfer most domestic 'green energy' research "investment" into Thorium-based LFTR research.
==> What a coincidence! As of 25 Jan 2011 the Chinese Academy of Sciences launched a development program for Thorium Fueled Molten Salt Reactors (TFMSR's). This is a "green" nuclear solution, thanks to Oak Ridge research done in 1965-1969. TFMSR's won't be an instant replacement for the existing reactors, but they will be the best possible alternative. Please google "Energy From Thorium" and "Thorium Energy Alliance" for the rest of the story.
@1293drive LFTR waste is highly radioactive witch is a problem when it comes to deal with it, but because, of that will decay very quickly to stable isotopes. After 10 year 75-83% of waste will decay so it is much much better then LWR. Dont forget that some of those isotopes u can use in medicine and it is much easier to bury 250kg of waste compared to 35tones
Steven Chu has a facebook page. It's a long shot but worth posting a link to this question on facebook. Aslo any visitors voting that they like this video will help the popularity spread.
I wonder how much time Obama gives Steven Chu in his weekly schedule. I hope Obama knows that Thorium Molten Salt Reactors are different than the ones being used in India. I hope he knows that it's not being taught in the Universities and that is far more likely to succeed than fusion. I also hope he knows that replacing coal with Nuclear is the only sensible way to keep up with energy demands while reducing carbon emissions.
Hey @hellezb (/Brian?) it isn't clear how folks are supposed to help you get this question in front of the president (or heck, the Energy Secretary). Is there a White House page question forum this has been submitted to and should be voted up? How do they determine what questions are asked? If it is a matter of YouTube up-votes, let viewers know so THEY know how to help you.
Dude, Your question is way to sane and rational for Mr. President or the Luddite legions he represents.
jimeast2 3 weeks ago
Could this reactor be made small and safe enought for home use if it used to power a Stirling Cycle Engine?
ufoengines 1 month ago
The problem with solar is that it requires fully 2% of the land to power a growing global power use (1% if GaAs fresnel arrays). Conventional panels convert the other 85% of light into much infrared. Storage such as 96% eff LiFePO4 batteries MUST be robotically mass produced (as with the arrays themselves).
Power towers and molten salt heat storage is the other option, much better than troughs.
Go to my channel for more about the parameters and land required for solar and its storage.
fireofenergy 1 month ago
Well, the man asks an important, interesting question, and I'm waiting for an answer.
I'm not holding my breath, though.
henrycate 2 months ago
Thorium is just the same bullshit like Uranium. A nuclear power plant does not ask how many radiation it is allowed to release when it explodes. In Germany we had the Thorium-Powered THTR-300 and it was shit. And we have 20 % renewables now – and we will go for 100 %. Nuclear Power Kills starting with Mining ending with radioactive Waste!
Boehri5vor12 3 months ago
@Boehri5vor12
Before criticizing, please realize the differences between the stupid light water reactor (in use today) and the MSR. LWR "wants to blow up" because it pressurizes water and needs water to cool the core. That is very stupid even though (usually) engineered quite well. It also spits out 100 TIMES the wastes (which lasts 500 times longer) because its fuel is only ~1% fissioned before it "poisons" itself.
MSR (and LFTR) needs NO water and CAN'T meltdown...
fireofenergy 3 months ago
@Boehri5vor12
Also, they don't need to be engineered for safety, If parts were to melt or if the whole thing broke in half in an earthquake, damage would be like "just a radioactive room" for 300 years (the mix cools which is the opposite of the LWR!). That's not good but much better than whole cities being radioactive for thousands of years!
That said, I prefer a global initiative to build robotic solar and LiFePO4 battery factories... It's GOT to be cheap to compete!
fireofenergy 3 months ago
@Boehri5vor12 The THTR-300 was not a molten salt reactor. The MSR is a superior concept and is very well suited for thorium. It isn't the thorium itself which is safer, its the rector design. Thorium is a byproduct of rare-earth metals which are essential for renewable energy and most new technologies. We wouldn't have to mine any new thorium.
bogusnachos 2 months ago
@Boehri5vor12 Would you care to document your claim that Germany now gets 20% of its energy from "renewables?" Would that be wind, solar, hydro, or what?
henrycate 2 months ago
@henrycate
Hi,
I only have got the numbers of the Year 2010: Hydro: 3.4 %, Wind: 6.2 %, Bio-Mass: 4.7 %, Photovoltaic: 1.9 %, bio gene waste burning: 0.8%. So in Sum it was 17 %. But in the first half of 2011 we had more than 20 % renewables. (Source: all Wikipedia). The renewables will exceed nuclear this year the first time: Renewables: 19.9 %, Nuclear: 17.7 % (2010: 22.4 %) (Source: Extrapolation in a Newspaper). Regards Boehri
Boehri5vor12 2 months ago
@Boehri5vor12 Dude, you can't run a real economy on cow farts.
geonerd 1 month ago
@geonerd
I’m not talking about cow farts, I am talking about the strongest nuclear reactor in our solar system – the sun. In 8 Minutes it sends the Primary Energy to earth, that is needed by all countries in 1 year. To make it usable you need some technology – but we are working on it (Solar-Thermal Powerstations, Wind turbines, Methaneisation (for storage and transportation of erergy), …). And 20 % is already a good number, isn’t it?
Boehri5vor12 1 month ago
Obama would have to use $ taken from "free and clean" (until you look closely) energy, which would alienate too many support groups.
Or he'd have to deregulate nuclear business to attract new investors.
Those 10% of green morons will never give up their dream....to ruin capitalism.
"renewables" could work if population is very poor and very low. Or rich but very low. They are suicidal.
MrDanielBowman74 3 months ago
The answer is simple. There is a Nuclear industry that stands to LOSE a lot of money in the switch over to a cheaper and CLEANER source of energy.. and that's what it's ALL about right??
MONEY
mistrtim 3 months ago 2
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"China is leading the way." India are also building Thorium reactors. It's like there is a conspiracy againt the west getting cheap energy!
sang3Eta 4 months ago
Keep trying. I'd suggest (if you are not already), joining EnergyFromThorium on Facebook, and making sure members are aware IN ADVANCE when an electronic town hall is going down. Get them to vote-up your video, and help submit similar questions. Be sure to ping me in advance too. I'm Canadian but might be able to help with any needed video assets.
gordonmcdowell 6 months ago
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Are the graphics in your presentation posted on the web somewhere?
jamesmonsen 8 months ago
In ten years, we'll be buying LFTRs from China - another missed opportunity - another step in the decline of the west.
bogusnachos 10 months ago 30
@bogusnachos
If we are able, and do purchase Thorium-based LFTR's from China in ten years, it will still be a VERY large net benefit for everyone. I really don't care who invests and perfects this technology first, just as long as it is done. However, I would agree that it sure would be nice to transfer most domestic 'green energy' research "investment" into Thorium-based LFTR research.
bobmaloney 3 months ago
@bogusnachos ya except in ten years china will be sixty percent smaller in population.
Mortallian18 3 months ago
@Mortallian18 In ten years China will be 60% smaller in population? How could this be?
boner2008 2 months ago
==> What a coincidence! As of 25 Jan 2011 the Chinese Academy of Sciences launched a development program for Thorium Fueled Molten Salt Reactors (TFMSR's). This is a "green" nuclear solution, thanks to Oak Ridge research done in 1965-1969. TFMSR's won't be an instant replacement for the existing reactors, but they will be the best possible alternative. Please google "Energy From Thorium" and "Thorium Energy Alliance" for the rest of the story.
clemrod3 10 months ago
Thorium reactors are the future, and China is leading the way.
terrorfalc 11 months ago
Does LFTR waste still remain dangerous after 10,000 years??? If so, what difference does it make that it produces .001 times as much waste as LWR???
1293drive 1 year ago
@1293drive LFTR waste is highly radioactive witch is a problem when it comes to deal with it, but because, of that will decay very quickly to stable isotopes. After 10 year 75-83% of waste will decay so it is much much better then LWR. Dont forget that some of those isotopes u can use in medicine and it is much easier to bury 250kg of waste compared to 35tones
sebek23b 11 months ago
@1293drive 300 years
ns4235 10 months ago
Steven Chu has a facebook page. It's a long shot but worth posting a link to this question on facebook. Aslo any visitors voting that they like this video will help the popularity spread.
RickMaltese 1 year ago
Hear, hear!
srmatto 1 year ago
Well said!!
I wonder how much time Obama gives Steven Chu in his weekly schedule. I hope Obama knows that Thorium Molten Salt Reactors are different than the ones being used in India. I hope he knows that it's not being taught in the Universities and that is far more likely to succeed than fusion. I also hope he knows that replacing coal with Nuclear is the only sensible way to keep up with energy demands while reducing carbon emissions.
RickMaltese 1 year ago
Hey @hellezb (/Brian?) it isn't clear how folks are supposed to help you get this question in front of the president (or heck, the Energy Secretary). Is there a White House page question forum this has been submitted to and should be voted up? How do they determine what questions are asked? If it is a matter of YouTube up-votes, let viewers know so THEY know how to help you.
gordonmcdowell 1 year ago
Thank You!
MrSculptinghair 1 year ago
==> Great job, Bryan! Might also be useful to mention that total LFTR waste is .001 times as much as LWR.
clemrod3 1 year ago 15
Hallezb, nice job! I hope you have visit the "energy from thorium" blog and forum to contribute more.
RobertHargraves 1 year ago