Dear iSorrowproductions. Thank you for not putting gay music. I'm serious. If I heard one of those gay, overplayed techno songs again I would've disliked the video.
@TehLamzaks Moonlight sonata is pretty easy compared to other Beethoven pieces...I learned how to play it from youtube lol... Moonlight sonata synthesia
Yeah I don't think cavarly would be too successful, I would get siege equipment since they are massed together so much, a shit load of archers or peltasts, and some cavarly just in case. But honestly in less you could have a great defensive position, this would be quite difficult to beat.
lol,this would be so easy to beat...You just need some cavalary to outpower his general and a bunch of skirmishers and archers&slingers...a phalanx without proper missle and/or cavalary protection is a dead phalanx...historically also.,just wiki "Battle of Lechaeum".
Why didn't the attacking army simply outflank the defending one? Those rear formations aren't doing anything. It could have completely enveloped them. On the other hand, the defenders could have deployed their forces as Hannibal did at Cannae, and caused the larger attacking force to be enveloped.
Well, you managed to get his general (which probably just means he was careless) and quickly turn the battle. Otherwise, it would have been a very drawn out battle with perhaps a different outcome; I noticed your second line of phalanx were "squeezing"/putting pressure on your own front line and that usually causes them to break much faster. If you hadn't gotten his gen, I wonder how long before they'd have broken.
@deluxes000 It's Beethoven--The Piano Sonata No. 14 in C♯ minor "Quasi una fantasia," Op. 27, No. 2, or more commonly known as "The Moonlight Sonata."
@Brendan1246 Nah, archers were pretty much useless against Hoplites. Onagers might've caused some damage, true, but then again, them hitting anything was pretyt much a gamble. And if you weren't lucky, you'd just have several units incapable of fighting back or contributing in any way. Better to have infantry all the way. Or cavalry, that could've worked.
@SuperMusicHero I didn't mean charging head on. Hitting the flanks or rear is a very efficient tactic, if it's done right. And just by moving your cavalry behind enemy lines might cause the enemy to react somehow, which would then open a gap somewhere.
Actually this is very beatable, especially with rome, there pilum would decimate your front line when used correctly and proceed to stomp your army from there. I've beaten a very good noob boxer who was using spartans , much better then your units and you have plenty of gaps in your line to exploit.
The greeks used this fromation just the falanx on the flanks wwould face their speras to the side and were flank resistant. So its very awsome formation, just it doesen't work in th game.
The greeks used this fromation just the falanx on the flanks wwould face their speras to the side and were flank resistant. So its very awsome formation, just it doesen't work in th game.
NICE YOU MADE A BOX! If your going to play Rome online, please don't sit in a box and wait for the enemy to come to you just to watch the massacre instead of, well you know....PLAYING THE GOD DAMNED GAME WITH TACTICS and honestly, If you find it fun to watch a box then you are a sad sad person
actually if you would send 2 elite hoplites from the side and make a bit busy the pikemen and send the cavalry inside that noobitos box on wheels they would rout and if not you would go from the other way from the front with cavalry again but yea it would work with diffrerent units too this is shit is not unstotable some strategy and you got them because they are in formation u know they will not leave that formation so u can play your own game
While your troops are committed to attacking the main line, a force of cavalry could easily destroy you. and in this video, your box is only used to advance on the enemy. from there, it breaks off into a line fighting a line. Not that impressive.
@spearadollar "noob box"- just a lame way to say you're too pathetic/lazy to actually fight it. It shouldn't matter what path you take to victory as long as you have some sort of strategy.
@Arvedui01 Except if you tried to do that in real life, the enemy would just wait you out until your troops fall asleep from fatigue or starve to death. It also allows the enemy to surround you and maneuver to better their own position.
@Arvedui01 Except if you tried to do that in real life, the enemy would just wait you out until your troops fall asleep from fatigue or starve to death. It also allows the enemy to surround you and maneuver to better their own position.
against a massive square formation like that, heavy onagers are gonna hit and take out whole units at once. even if one flaming stone hit the front of that line 4+ units would instantly be wiped out.
Nice video but the Greek city's hoplites would fight a in long line and eventualy surround you. (Historically). But like i said nice video and cool formation.
If this was engaged head on, artillery on the rear phalanx. Cavalry would open up the center left & right positions and another squadron rear would cut the spine out of this.
The other guy has you're flank and rear the moment you're front phalanx touches his shields. Plus the formation breaks up too easily because there is no room for movement.
@mrtazzo1 because in a noob box you give up the initiative and let the enemy play with you. enemy can simply shoot at your dense formation and weaken the side , when you will have to break the noob box to reinforce the weak side or they can simply apply pressure on the weakened flank till either 1- your flank collapses or 2-you have to devote troops form other flank to reinforce it , which will eventually break the noob square and the advantage of it.
@sushanalone and thats not even considering the possibility of artillery. MY noob box would be essantially a gaint schiltron.. with a few catapaults in the centre.
There's one random way of destroying any phalanx line:
get 3-7 units of shock cavalry, group them so they units overlap each other and front charge on one phalanx unit. Lot of causalities but charged unit is annihilated and rest of the line is exposed to side attack.
Without Cavalry, any number of soldiers and their formation is useless.. this formation can still be routed using the pratorean cavalry units, 5 units will be sufficient with couple of slingers.. but a nice interesting formation with flanks reserved!
@FTWDaan Cavalry would not be able to do anything against this in the long run if you didn't notice the side flanks of phalanx can deploy to face the attackers and breaking them instantaneous, using this strategy online usually ends in the opponent leaving
@iSorrowproductions ive tried this with romans and won 3 battles already no losses.. but then again i made some minor changes that include WAR DOGS :D its mixed it woth all the units and they never notice em. and when i unleash em on the archers they start freaking out lol
not hard, basicly sending horses to theyr death can be a good thing, when i see that formation with phalanx i pretty butch send a light cavalry to the midle just to create a bit of panic, has u know, phalanx are either slow or vulnerable, getting cavalry to die = panic, then i would put some archers to spread more panic, after that its just a good charge to break the line and flank the busy phalanx =) and this works. done by me
@iSorrowproductions the thing is the phalanx can only face 1 direction, if you attack the flank guard on 3 side taking advantage of the slow mobility, you can crush the phalanx and force the center to to reform to guard the side. by which time you would have withdraw the cavalry and move to attack from another direction.
this is why the phalanx was eventually abandoned, it work against noob but not skilled generals who know how to move his battle lines. mix army always beat single arms
Sorry, no offense, but totaly useless formation, I can tear it apart with 4 squads of cavalry. You never want phalanxes deployed so deep, especially on flank, they expose their whole side. A single cavalry charge into that and it will rout.
Otherwise nice video, I like the music choice too ;)
@Zamolxes77 im sorry but ur dumb as hell cuz then he can just make the spearman face ur charging cav and there go the 4 cav u been talking bout the best thing u can do is pick on spot and put all ur force into it hoping that the dude playing will be to slow to react or spam archers and onagers
@samcarr63 No it wouldn't. The missiles would run out of ammo far before even a quarter of this army would be taken out. Missile units are only useful in small money battles.
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o wel the song just
M00KAB 2 weeks ago
i think i heard this soundtrack in ask tgwtg lol
1236sason 1 month ago
me gusto esa formacion pero para mi que no es para las guerras
jeyk96604 1 month ago
the only good thing in this vid is the song.
TheGator2000 1 month ago
@TheGator2000
M00KAB 2 weeks ago
thumbs up for moonlight sonata dude....
vindre7 1 month ago 5
Dear iSorrowproductions. Thank you for not putting gay music. I'm serious. If I heard one of those gay, overplayed techno songs again I would've disliked the video.
glaxko2 1 month ago
i can play this on piano yay
attykon 1 month ago
@attykon WHAT THE HELL?!how? xD
TehLamzaks 1 month ago
@TehLamzaks Moonlight sonata is pretty easy compared to other Beethoven pieces...I learned how to play it from youtube lol... Moonlight sonata synthesia
attykon 1 month ago 2
Moonlight Sonata something something? XD
Julius55555 1 month ago
is it just me or did their flags look like the assassin's creed flags at the begining?
CIVICBOBLEVEL 1 month ago
Qual o nome desse jogo mim responde por favor?
What is the name of this game please answer me
kevyn724 1 month ago
@kevyn724
Rome Total War
Zanmefagalion 1 month ago
What is music ?
xxbartekex 1 month ago
@xxbartekex The Moonlight Sonata by Beethoven
TRUExSIGHTS 1 month ago
SPARTAN, THE BATTLE IS THIS WAY!! 4:02 *Spartan* Sorry, but I'm to much of a Coward Bye!!
EveofBattle 2 months ago
its rome total war
cedricgey 2 months ago
como hacen para tener ese ejercito :/
MrDgeret 2 months ago
What is this game?
kwoofs 3 months ago
@kwoofs Call of Duty: Ancient Warfare
blocklandfan11 2 months ago 5
@blocklandfan11 LOL
TheGator2000 2 months ago
@kwoofs it's, shut the fuck up and read the title fuck face :)
14ShuFFlerDruMMer06 2 months ago
game name?
Banksfly 3 months ago
@Banksfly rome total war
w0jac 3 months ago
whats this music man
tenirpaslager 3 months ago
@tenirpaslager Moonlight Sonata
JackOFBlades111 3 months ago
@JackOFBlades111 cheers :)
tenirpaslager 3 months ago
@tenirpaslager the phantom of the opera - manowar
THEsyntheticFresh 2 months ago
Yeah I don't think cavarly would be too successful, I would get siege equipment since they are massed together so much, a shit load of archers or peltasts, and some cavarly just in case. But honestly in less you could have a great defensive position, this would be quite difficult to beat.
polishboyfresh 3 months ago
lol,this would be so easy to beat...You just need some cavalary to outpower his general and a bunch of skirmishers and archers&slingers...a phalanx without proper missle and/or cavalary protection is a dead phalanx...historically also.,just wiki "Battle of Lechaeum".
SerbianKickboxer969 3 months ago
what game is this ?
7ar15 4 months ago
@7ar15 rome total war
PozDjudjino 4 months ago
@7ar15 Thx :D
7ar15 4 months ago
Why didn't the attacking army simply outflank the defending one? Those rear formations aren't doing anything. It could have completely enveloped them. On the other hand, the defenders could have deployed their forces as Hannibal did at Cannae, and caused the larger attacking force to be enveloped.
yohannbiimu 4 months ago
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What is the name of the song?
idk2say 4 months ago
Well, you managed to get his general (which probably just means he was careless) and quickly turn the battle. Otherwise, it would have been a very drawn out battle with perhaps a different outcome; I noticed your second line of phalanx were "squeezing"/putting pressure on your own front line and that usually causes them to break much faster. If you hadn't gotten his gen, I wonder how long before they'd have broken.
Elricwulf 4 months ago
did u use bethooven song or mozart ?
deluxes000 4 months ago
@deluxes000 It's Beethoven--The Piano Sonata No. 14 in C♯ minor "Quasi una fantasia," Op. 27, No. 2, or more commonly known as "The Moonlight Sonata."
yohannbiimu 4 months ago
@yohannbiimu thx
deluxes000 4 months ago
20 groups of egyptian chariot arches = best possible army.
ethan0kaplan 4 months ago
What's funny is this is pretty much how a lot of Greek armies actually fought.
Zardul 4 months ago
A skirmish army would decimate that war machine.
paganini0630 4 months ago
oh yeah well... i can make an army of peasants charge into a huge line of phalanx units
iamdictatorpo 4 months ago 36
Why do I have a feeling that didn't go well?
ironmoger2007 1 month ago
Great song! one of beethovens best.
sorry for my spelling.
miguel111093 4 months ago
so many unused pike men in the middle. Swap them out for some archers or some arty
Brendan1246 5 months ago 28
@Brendan1246 Nah, archers were pretty much useless against Hoplites. Onagers might've caused some damage, true, but then again, them hitting anything was pretyt much a gamble. And if you weren't lucky, you'd just have several units incapable of fighting back or contributing in any way. Better to have infantry all the way. Or cavalry, that could've worked.
WebOnion 3 months ago
@WebOnion oh yeah, cavalary against phlanax
SuperMusicHero 3 months ago
@SuperMusicHero I didn't mean charging head on. Hitting the flanks or rear is a very efficient tactic, if it's done right. And just by moving your cavalry behind enemy lines might cause the enemy to react somehow, which would then open a gap somewhere.
WebOnion 3 months ago
@WebOnion Ah, I understand your point.
SuperMusicHero 3 months ago
Love the Portal song xD
Panem est mendax!!
(I'm aware that isn't conjugated properly)
PaladinOfLondon 5 months ago
Poor music.
guardiasvizzera1 5 months ago
it is easy to destroy greek troops just charge with 20 fully upgraded roman generals
MrRbn61 5 months ago
Actually this is very beatable, especially with rome, there pilum would decimate your front line when used correctly and proceed to stomp your army from there. I've beaten a very good noob boxer who was using spartans , much better then your units and you have plenty of gaps in your line to exploit.
thefattestape 5 months ago
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The greeks used this fromation just the falanx on the flanks wwould face their speras to the side and were flank resistant. So its very awsome formation, just it doesen't work in th game.
RuneR96 5 months ago
The greeks used this fromation just the falanx on the flanks wwould face their speras to the side and were flank resistant. So its very awsome formation, just it doesen't work in th game.
RuneR96 5 months ago
i cant watch
wham13456 6 months ago
NICE YOU MADE A BOX! If your going to play Rome online, please don't sit in a box and wait for the enemy to come to you just to watch the massacre instead of, well you know....PLAYING THE GOD DAMNED GAME WITH TACTICS and honestly, If you find it fun to watch a box then you are a sad sad person
petergriffen360 6 months ago
actually if you would send 2 elite hoplites from the side and make a bit busy the pikemen and send the cavalry inside that noobitos box on wheels they would rout and if not you would go from the other way from the front with cavalry again but yea it would work with diffrerent units too this is shit is not unstotable some strategy and you got them because they are in formation u know they will not leave that formation so u can play your own game
2010Nodari 6 months ago
While your troops are committed to attacking the main line, a force of cavalry could easily destroy you. and in this video, your box is only used to advance on the enemy. from there, it breaks off into a line fighting a line. Not that impressive.
aWhiiteeKiid 6 months ago
@spearadollar "noob box"- just a lame way to say you're too pathetic/lazy to actually fight it. It shouldn't matter what path you take to victory as long as you have some sort of strategy.
Arvedui01 6 months ago
@Arvedui01 Except if you tried to do that in real life, the enemy would just wait you out until your troops fall asleep from fatigue or starve to death. It also allows the enemy to surround you and maneuver to better their own position.
Bitemis 5 months ago
@Arvedui01 Except if you tried to do that in real life, the enemy would just wait you out until your troops fall asleep from fatigue or starve to death. It also allows the enemy to surround you and maneuver to better their own position.
Bitemis 5 months ago
i always atack phalanx from behind
JESUS64963 6 months ago
against a massive square formation like that, heavy onagers are gonna hit and take out whole units at once. even if one flaming stone hit the front of that line 4+ units would instantly be wiped out.
darkhoogan 6 months ago
this formation is nice to see for the eyes but a bit useless until cavalry
syath1991 6 months ago
nice formation but if yur opponent had a cav..he could use it to charge to your flank during the battle..just my opinion..^__^
golong13 6 months ago
thumbs up if you muted at the beginning. :D
johnylongbow9098 6 months ago
ohhh shit.....i would throw all my men at it....wat do i have to lose? lol
CCCP307 6 months ago
LOL skillet
VTK1430 6 months ago
the phalanx is totally outnumbered
haeonoh 8 months ago
Nice video but the Greek city's hoplites would fight a in long line and eventualy surround you. (Historically). But like i said nice video and cool formation.
lone2k8 8 months ago
If this was engaged head on, artillery on the rear phalanx. Cavalry would open up the center left & right positions and another squadron rear would cut the spine out of this.
The other guy has you're flank and rear the moment you're front phalanx touches his shields. Plus the formation breaks up too easily because there is no room for movement.
Steve96461 8 months ago
@Steve96461 that's som real strategy thinking
DeBerjeuh 6 months ago
Am I the only one that see's a "free encirclement" here ?
WarSmurfs 8 months ago
@FTWDaan U realy are an idiot, not knowing that!
Metal666Blade 9 months ago
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I like the song, it's nu metal bitches.
Metal666Blade 9 months ago
I like the song, it's heavy metal bitches.
Metal666Blade 9 months ago
@spearadollar i don't see any wheels.
danhabsfan9 10 months ago
y does ppl hate this
mrtazzo1 10 months ago
@mrtazzo1 because in a noob box you give up the initiative and let the enemy play with you. enemy can simply shoot at your dense formation and weaken the side , when you will have to break the noob box to reinforce the weak side or they can simply apply pressure on the weakened flank till either 1- your flank collapses or 2-you have to devote troops form other flank to reinforce it , which will eventually break the noob square and the advantage of it.
sushanalone 10 months ago
@sushanalone and thats not even considering the possibility of artillery. MY noob box would be essantially a gaint schiltron.. with a few catapaults in the centre.
elgostine 9 months ago
STILL ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!
mrtazzo1 10 months ago
how do u get that many men?? i mean other than having "reinforcements" cuz u cant even control them
mastercrowly 11 months ago
Look up ancient battle tactics on the internet, that helps more than this
8000cheese 11 months ago
wa song is this?
zachatron100 11 months ago
There's one random way of destroying any phalanx line:
get 3-7 units of shock cavalry, group them so they units overlap each other and front charge on one phalanx unit. Lot of causalities but charged unit is annihilated and rest of the line is exposed to side attack.
DarthDupa 11 months ago
lol 2:31
watsup4741 11 months ago
Without Cavalry, any number of soldiers and their formation is useless.. this formation can still be routed using the pratorean cavalry units, 5 units will be sufficient with couple of slingers.. but a nice interesting formation with flanks reserved!
pseudomonos 1 year ago
The video was good until 2:32
ISKGaming 1 year ago
Needle factories at war!
But yeah some proper tactics could probabaly win from this.
SirScourge 1 year ago
@FTWDaan hahaha you got owned
jc290092 1 year ago
A lot of missile troops are needed to win this kinda battle.
kalashnikov96 1 year ago
ARCHERS !!!!
GottesLegionXVII 1 year ago
@FTWDaan yea with golden upgrades XD
LuxxyLux1 1 year ago
give me archers!!!! and cavalry archers, i'm gonna pounce you!
majinleoking 1 year ago
@FTWDaan Cavalry would not be able to do anything against this in the long run if you didn't notice the side flanks of phalanx can deploy to face the attackers and breaking them instantaneous, using this strategy online usually ends in the opponent leaving
iSorrowproductions 1 year ago 18
@iSorrowproductions ive tried this with romans and won 3 battles already no losses.. but then again i made some minor changes that include WAR DOGS :D its mixed it woth all the units and they never notice em. and when i unleash em on the archers they start freaking out lol
CallingOfTheTiger 1 year ago
@iSorrowproductions
hm, romans would kikck ur phalanks bottom x) =P
not hard, basicly sending horses to theyr death can be a good thing, when i see that formation with phalanx i pretty butch send a light cavalry to the midle just to create a bit of panic, has u know, phalanx are either slow or vulnerable, getting cavalry to die = panic, then i would put some archers to spread more panic, after that its just a good charge to break the line and flank the busy phalanx =) and this works. done by me
tubemankiwi 1 year ago
@iSorrowproductions gave me 1 tank and i take out all your phalanx
IWANAROCKYEEEAAAA 1 year ago
@iSorrowproductions this "tactic" is actually very easy to beat. if that greek city state army was managed properly he could have won.
spearadollar 9 months ago
@iSorrowproductions the thing is the phalanx can only face 1 direction, if you attack the flank guard on 3 side taking advantage of the slow mobility, you can crush the phalanx and force the center to to reform to guard the side. by which time you would have withdraw the cavalry and move to attack from another direction.
this is why the phalanx was eventually abandoned, it work against noob but not skilled generals who know how to move his battle lines. mix army always beat single arms
akinkhoo 9 months ago
@iSorrowproductions hit and run with cav on the flanks.
i will continue to do this until your "phalanx" splits and your men route.
i win.
rockboarder12 9 months ago
do you see any cav ??? NOOO
fightwarriorshadow 1 year ago
sandwich
MyNameIzLucas 1 year ago
actually this formation is preatty usefull defending important city states
hbdrs 1 year ago
is the machine broken? :s lol
jamsbruno1 1 year ago
Sorry, no offense, but totaly useless formation, I can tear it apart with 4 squads of cavalry. You never want phalanxes deployed so deep, especially on flank, they expose their whole side. A single cavalry charge into that and it will rout.
Otherwise nice video, I like the music choice too ;)
Zamolxes77 1 year ago
@Zamolxes77 im sorry but ur dumb as hell cuz then he can just make the spearman face ur charging cav and there go the 4 cav u been talking bout the best thing u can do is pick on spot and put all ur force into it hoping that the dude playing will be to slow to react or spam archers and onagers
daniel123seph 1 year ago
Lol, noob-box.
Saxappealed 1 year ago
Omg, RUN! Its a moving Phalanx/Noob-box! xp
Michie1004 1 year ago
First song, Had enough by Breaking Benjamin. Second Song Still Alive by The people who made the game Portal. Just use limewire and get them free.
oddersisadog 1 year ago
actualy all of them are pikes xD put a heavy swords mans :P
hamerschy 1 year ago
@TheRockstarnation its not a square look at the pike mens they defend the left and right flank i think rear and front too xD
hamerschy 1 year ago
wht song is this
BabyGem16 1 year ago
that army would be destroyed by missile units
samcarr63 1 year ago
@samcarr63 No it wouldn't. The missiles would run out of ammo far before even a quarter of this army would be taken out. Missile units are only useful in small money battles.
mauiboynokaoi 1 year ago
wat game or thing is that
cjroxful 1 year ago
@cjroxful its rome total war
coverisk 1 year ago
Assassins flag
Jazzingguys 2 years ago