She is very good....using one opponent to shield her from the second opponent in the multiple attackers situations. Very fast footwork....just like Pakua/Bagua Kung Fu...always circling around the opponents.
I find all these arguments over the effectiveness of Aikido futile, always those who like to stand in a small defined area toe to toe trading kicks and punches consider it ineffective, so tell me, is a tank ineffective because you are not allowed to use it in a marksmanship competition?
there is a secret to aikido which I have never known taught, it is something for each to discover on their own, I myself didnt discover this secret until years AFTER I had given up the art
A martial art makes the best of what you have. If your opponent is much stronger than you then you're fucked if its a wrestling match. It is important to learn wrestling techniques, but they should be used only when offensive forms of martial arts cannot be.
It seems like a very personal style of aikido. I couldn't see much of the classic techniques of hombu dojo although it have a liquid performance. The shomen uti is not working as a direct attack on the nage in randori but as an attack on someone at his side. Could you please tell if this is a hybrid of aikido with other martial arts? Not knocking, just asking, though.
i would love to see an aikido black belt against a brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.....probably the top two strongest martial arts................peace......B
Good training, really. A variety of techniques and are very refined, is the elusive and effective fluid at a time. I hope some agree with you on course!
many people thinks that aikido technique is about grab the hand. that is totally wrong. actually aikidoka is knowing how to punch or even kick when they do counter attack. but the aikidoka prefer not to do that, because that is not the point of aiki-way.
It's ridicoulus... look at that punches... they are unnatural, artificial, straight... not a faint, not a strategy... nothin at all... Very good to see, very useless in real life.
Wow. Please tell me the name of the SoundTrack Music in the background? So beautiful with indian flute and some Psybient newage sounds..love it ..whats the track ? plz
This is belt grading. Its all different depending on what AIkido you train. I was always taught that a belt colour doesn't show how much the person knows because in Aikido you are always learning and developing. In my dojo we arnt pressured to go up in belt levels.
the point in aikido indeed is to NOT finish off your opponent *by killing him* but giving him so much damage he is unable to further attack you* finishing off doens't mean KILLING a person if you break one of his arms.. and then take in 3 quick nerve strikes *solarplexus for example* u got LOADS of time to escape ur attacker
the only thing i don't like about Aikido is 1-the peaceful way, and 2- you can never finish the opponent off. Notice how the girl keeps fighting them over & over again.
Will she ever be done with them, and go on happily back home???
The guy without the hakama at 2:16 should really work on his attacks and keep his attention towards Tori, everytime she moves out the way, you don't see him for ages, he should be there, on top of her, keeping the pressure until she actually does something.
Chadmaestro; You're right. And it seems to me that most attackers seem to know what's expected from them so they kind of coorporate with the defender. I really do mis the sharpness and agression in this "ballet"
Of course there is some coorporation from the "attackers" because if there was not someone would get hurt very quickly
In arts like aikido what is important is learning about geometry of attacks the study of motion and your psych your mind spirt and how calm you can think under pressure
The "attackers" are not the enemy.They are her teachers and her tools for learning and self discovery
The enemy is your own uncalm mind
it has nothing to do with the person in front of you.
@NewZealfighter I love your explanation. What you have said here should be taught to every beginner that enters the Aikido dojo before they learn their first technique. Good job putting into words the uke nage relationship!
pretty awesome I like the wrist chuck move she did around :40 i've been reading and researching several different asian martial arts over the years and i think aikido is great. i've taken an interest in russian sambo recently though, its pretty badass...
no running, open and wide atack - no aikido, that is why i think its not too good - against a stuuuupid atacker it would work perfectly but against a one that has some fighting expierience it wouldnt
Y a mi me gustaría ver a Mike Tyson contra unos Maras Salvatruchas... El arte puede ser muy bueno pero el artista muy malo, no sé si me explico. Y sí, a mi tampaco me dejó muy convencido ese randori. Ella da muchas vueltas y los ataque son somo flojos pero si lo vemos desde el punto de vista de un ejercicio para educar al cuerpo a moverse pues esta bien.
se vera que los uke(atacante) atacan fingidos. pero el que tiene que ser de tori (defensor/activo) no actua fingido actua x enseñanzas propias ampliar tecnicas como si fuera un kata.. a simple vista con una persona es facil demostrar tecnicas. pero de dos o mas tiene que combinarlas interactuar uno mismo. nunca sabe si en la vida te atacaran de dos. imaginatelo.. pero el aikido es de lo mejor no usas la fuerza controlas la fuerza y usas la mente como enseñanza de ti mismo..
about fighting..... aikido is basically an art for defense , no attack no aikido.... but,... after practicing 2 or three months..... it really gives u the necesary quickness to solve a real fighting situation... however, after ayear u'll have the wisdom to solve ur problems without fighting.... aikido is harmony.... no opposition
@ORLANDO2217 y but real aikido has a huge difference, unlike normal aikido your goal in real aikido is to disable your opponent as fast as possible and toend the fight as fast as possible, this means hurting your enemy.
UFC is a sport. You can't bend fingers (no small joints manipulations), poke eyes, throat, gorin, fish hook. Can't really compare with Aikido. In a real self defense situation anything goes. The training is really about how your body will natually react to attacks.
I totally agree with Killarse, UFC is a sport, and a brutal one at that. There is NO small joint locks, eye gouching, attacking the knee etc. You cannot compare UFC to the real thing. This Aikido is the REAL thing...
It seems there is a lot of disagreement over aikido's effectivity. The main goal for aikido practitioners is avoiding a fight. The fact that you haven't seen aikidokas fight is a testament to that, therein lies your answer. What about in a real fight? What fight, we avoid fights. If you are one who wishes to fight, then aikido just isn't for you. Peace.
BUT the point of ANY martial art is to, at its CORE, is to be a form of SELF DEFENSE!! The "It is meant to avoid fights and that's why you never see an Aikido practioner in a fight." is TOTAL BS! You should NEVER look for a fight, but what about the unavoidable situation?? The situation were a man is accosted by a drunkard that refuses to let the Aikido guy just "walk away?" A female that is jumped by a rapist?? THESE are the questions that we want answered!! NOT for a streetfight!
a man accosted by a drunkard can lead the drunkard to a bar to drink some more. a female jumped by a rapist... if shouting or spitting at the rapist doesn't deter him, then the use of ground techniques will. What is total BS is the way you believe that aikidoka will not use what they know, because they will... as a last resort. peace.
LOL That is funny the way that you think that you can reason with anyone that is intent on harming you! LMAO "just lead them back to a bar.." and "if spitting and yelling doesn't deter the rapist." LMFAO WHAT world do you live in that it is so easy to deter and prevent crimes?? Sure, you ARE going to need standing AND ground work to help yourself in these situations. But as I said BEFORE, fighting SHOULD be your last resort, but sometimes, it is the ONLY OPTION you have against criminals!
Also, if you think that WE believe an Aikido practioner will NOT use what they know to defend themselves, then *I* think you missed the point of what we were all saying. ANY system CAN work when trained properly. It was just the statements made that there is ALWAYS a way out of fighting, even in deadly situations, that made me question the statements made. I've always enjoyed the beauty of Aikido, and known a few BBs. NOT knocking on Aikido, just some of the statements made. That's all.
yes, as a form of self defense! re: life & death situation only!!! and not to test the skills just to make ur self called tough!!! we'r more on to discipline not barbaric ways... ask ur self why there aint no shaolin masters in the octagon??? bec. of so called discipline.. peace!
The real fighters IE masters have nothing to prove and they would not indulge in a babaric act such as the UFC.
UFC is not martial art, but just plain and simply fighting.
Any fight untrained or rained would attract a crowd. So you cannot compare Aikido to the UFC. Aikido at least potrayed here is a turew art form. A way of peace and harmony. With such a mentally and well being what do these guys have to prove in the Octagon? .....nuf said!
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To end all this back and forth bickering why don't you so called real Aikido practitioners participate in a no holds barred fight instead of this coreographed dances...?
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To end all this back and forth bickering why don't you so called real Aikido practitioners participate in a no holds barred fight instead of this coreographed dances...?
If someone was doing real aikido most onlookers wouldn't even know what the guy did. It would look nothing like any of these videos. To do Aikido in a combat way requires someone with excellent ukemi, someone who can really attack. Even if he had excellent ukemi he would probably still get seriously hurt. Which is why you see everything long and drawn out. This is not real aikido. What this is is a demonstration of how it unfolds in the macrocosom so it can be observed, studied and learned.
Aikido is a very powerfull martial art... The issue is that it takes like 10 years of continous practice to get a decent level... Not like other martial arts than takes 2 to 3years to get a good level. (I'm not saying those are not efectives) is just that each aikido technic has many variations, and punches and kick does not.and i must say aikido is not all that fanci movements, that look like dancing,aikido is manage the flowing energy. someday will be an aikidoka at MMA or UFC.
You are in the wrong style of Aikido. Stay away from the majority of them because i.e. Aikikai styles, that's where this "aikido isn't efficient as a martial art" mentallity comes from. Look into Tomiki style or offshoot of Tomiki Aikido Kihara Aikido by Karal Geis. He was a student of Tomiki and Tomiki was a student of Usheiba and Kano. It doesn't take years to get good...less than a year and you'd be pretty good.
Do you really believe that? An Aikidoka would be annihilated in any MMA contest. You can't imagine a honed athlete like GSP being long about dispelling your misguided opinions. Sorry maybe you meant it as a joke....
Ueshiba defeated sumos, karateka jijutsuka, and I guess I must be forgetting thousands of other guys, just dodging contacts and blocking kicks and punches, throwing and applying arm and leg locks. Those guys, Gozo Shioda included, wanted to ridiculize his defense technique thinking it was fake. Ueshiba NEVER lost a fight. He was admired by all the Masters of his time. Aikijutsu he learnt between 1915 and 1922 was a samurai martial art. But, it evolved too softenly because of Ueshibas's faith.
Honestly very funny...I think you need 1) a history lesson - Samurai era anyone? 2) a reality check - if Aikido was a realistic and practical street martial art it would be proven. It hasn't. Your are dreaming - if you don't believe me go spar with some Ju Jitsu practitioners... they will show you what's up.
The problem with Aikido is that it has no ground fighting and is very reliant on small joint manipulations (at least that's what my friend tells me) that are largely forbidden in UFC.
Watch some of the throws Aikido users practice. A UFC fighter who isn't trained to counter that stuff, because it's not in the rule book, could fall badly and end up with permanent damage.
Have you ever seen a good Aikido fighter? I've watched my friend, who does Aikido, defeat three fighters at once, two of them were kickboxers and the last one was a boxer who fought competitively.
It doesn't work well in the ring because of rules and restrictions, but as a street martial art, it definately works.
@Amibop a member has said about a YT video of a party on a supposed aikido guy defending himself in a fight against a guy who seemed to be a brazilian jiujitsu practicioner or something. The latter tried to throw the aikido guy on the ground, as they always do, but the aiki guy in a difficult risk situation broke the arm of another guy. He said the video is shocking because of the screams of pain and arm twisted, but I'd like to see it. If anyone knows, please let me know how to find it. Thanks.
Aikido its not a sport combat, so plz dont compare it to MMA. It makes no sence. An aikido student or master its not trained in combat skills so of course that in the ring they should loose againts more prepared ones.
Each martial art is designed for specific purpose. aikijitsu against shielded opponents (hands, wrists vulnerable), shao lin(kicks from high grounds), Wing tsun in close buildings(no elaborate kicks), silat(jungle warfare,keris, muddy ground), muay thai (battle against krabi krabong).People should know the principles behind each technique and then suit to your environment and your physique.Learn all ranges. dont expose weakness.Try not to get sucked in a fight.If u do, get in n get out quickly
Most Aikido videos are demonstration style; the attacker (Tori) and the defender (Uke) are practicing WITH each other. I agree that it is a very technical and aesthetic martial art - with it's heart in the right place. But if you want to learn to fight try Jujitsu, Judo, wrestling, Karate etc.
Well I am biased about Judo!! -- if you search for Judo in You Tube, or some of the great champions names; Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki, Yasuhiro Yamashita, Kosei Inoue etc..you won't be disappointed. Judo is a great Martial Art, very well developed with a fantastic competitive sport element too, all this accompanying a proud lineage... not to take from any of the others. Good Luck and let us know how you get on.
judo is the sport version of jujitsu. Its randori makes the participant efficient in doing a technique in sports. when u both are holding each other lapel, you would be doing a judo technique like outer reaping then juji gatame. Im just saying , theres another dimension like head butt, kneecapsmashing,eye gourging which is faster n suitable especially when there are more than one attacker. Judo is good but not complete.
Don't get me wrong here -I admire other well rounded martial arts too. But the simple fact is that it is impossible to practice fully the techniques you mention; therefore their affectivity is weakened. Judo teaches the full range of it's techniques with the means to use them with full force AND against full resistance.If you want to learn how to look after yourself, become stronger and fitter, cut through the often espoused BS in martial arts -- and have a good time - Judo is the place for you!
U can aplly full range techniques in judo as in aikido. In judo you make the other to quick, in aikido you provoke pain to he point that will brak if he resists or if u apply a litle more pressure. The jumps are for avoiding geting injured. I have broke a wrist already in a aikido train. With all respect, judo is a litle bit limited. jujitsu its a lot more complete, has a lot more techniques.
I agree that Jujitsu is a great method, but I have a preference to the training offered in Judo. There are plenty of great REALITY based fighting systems. I simply feel that Aikido offers more of the "Art" and less of the "Martial". The odd mention you made of breaking your wrist proves nothing toward the effective nature of Aikido or how hard you train; good training doesn't result in injury.
When u train on the limit that can happen. In my case was because the shodan wasnt carefull enough with me being a principiant. In judo the figth finishes to quicly..for instances, when u touch with your back in the floor. . This says a lot about the diference between them
Seriously - I could ruin the tenor of this debate and call you an idiot now - or simply call it quits and write you off as another odd ball fantasist. Either way I think you are that far divorced from reality that I could tell you my cat just farted an effigy of Satan and he thinks we should all just kiss and make up. Bye bye -- take care of your wrist.... Idiot.
YOU need to open your mind. It is a proven fact that aikido is efficient. This is only contested by BJJ enthusiast. Aikido is a jujutsu art based on unbalancing. It is not a sport like judo or karate or BJJ. Aikido may be unefficient in a ring, but not as a martial art.
u are very mind limited.. go and pratices some more and diferent martial arts so u can came in here and give seriously comments. u dont learn by watching videos kid so shut that mouth up
With the greatest respect it looks like people pretending to do Jujutsu but preferring to dance....This stuff wouldn't work in real life situation. I think that most Aikidoka know this already - but want to practice Budo. No harm done...I think?!
the question i have when looking at aikido videos is this. Is there in existence a video that shows an attack with real intent to 'takedown' an aikido practitioner in which he or she has successfully repelled using aikido techniques.the closest thing i have come to seeing this is during a black belt, randori test in a seagal dojo in japan. yes i know alot of people regard seagal as some kind of a joke but i don't share that view.
I think it would be rare to find such a video, if it does exist... I haven't seen an aikidoka wear padding such as those in taekwondo, so we are told to control our strikes to minimize injury - so strikes rarely fall, if they do, it would be accidental. I cannot confirm, but I believe padding or protection is also not allowed in aikido, you don't wear any so that if you are hit, you are forced to realize that as well as being inflicted pain, you can also inflict pain, it depends on you.
it is REAL aikido-Modified aikido,created for people outside Japan (he don't have nothing with Budism,many moves are reconstructed becouse Japanese people are small,and some moves in aikido is not changed for hunderd years,so this is realistic aikido,and you can really use them to defened yourself).Real aikido is make Ljubomor Vracarevic from Serbia,and you can find on goole about him and his work ;)
The way she moves, NATALY must be wild in bed. The way she uses her HIPS, I'm sure she is able to thrust her hips wildly forward during SEX, her climaxes and orgasms are likely continuous and flowing just like her Martial art.
oh come on! Look at the jiuwaza (working with 2 partners) it's ridicilous! If either one of them would atack her for real hahha it would never work in reality. Over and out.
Dear Ljubicica,i'll try to explain you this jiuwaza:
1st -it is practise of movement with 2 partners
2nd -in reality this is loot differant and it is finished in 2-3 moves
To come to 2nd part you have to learn 1st part -its like with those Kolibri kids(but cant say for Karleusa also :P)-first they learn notes,basics and then they are going on 2nd,advanced level :D
If you have any other questions or doubts,i will gladly explain everything-or you can even post your vid and show it better ;)
I have a question about the jiuwaza. In the aikido I practise we don't turn around all the time. I wonder what the point is there, I really like real aikido style. I'm kinda missing some of that real action in mine but as mentioned before it looks ridiculous and effective at the same time. Stil... why turning your back to your opponent ?
Every "throw" is essentially useless, but the movement and balance practice is nontheless great improvement, also considering how "real" fights can unfold. These are the "weaker" techniques shown, it's merely a show to emphasise some traditional techniques for the sake of learning, not fighting.
Try exploring other types of techniques and possibilities Aikido offer, and you'll be suprised how effective it can be.
I train in more arts (Aikido,5yrs). I've done Thai-boxing and when I bring out a low kick, people freeze having no answer. I disagree on the throws tho, I find them very effective at moments. I'm not doubting the effectiveness of Aikido in general, I think once decently mastered there is no more effective art out there. I tried randori with 3 beginners cos their attacks are not 'aikidoshaped' doing it the way I see here and it just doesn't work against them. I does for more experienced aikidoka.
apart from the 3 man combo stuff ur technique is very efficient (thats if u havent sped up the footagem,and i'll assume u havnt) good stuff, keep it up.
You've never been in a real fight. Every SINGLE move is like dancing. Example scenerios: YOU MOVE HERE THEN YOU GO HERE, YOU THROW A PUNCH THEN I DO THIS MOVE AND YOU REACT IN THIS MANNER, OKAY ALL YOU GUYS ATTACK ME AND YOU WILL REACT IN THIS MANNER AND IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ME...ETC.
nevermind 4:15 try 4:30 nicechoreography.keep an eye on how he fell and what arm she ends up holding.convenient that his right arm ends up rightwhere it needs to be for her to throw him so neatly.Demonstrations piss me off.the uke always dives like a soccer player/attacks with ridiculous attacks.This is what bastardizes martial arts.Train for showing off (or for sport)and you'll die a bloody death. Train to fightand it may not bepretty but you win regardless of which art you choose.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AIKIDO!
aiki1988 2 months ago
She is very good....using one opponent to shield her from the second opponent in the multiple attackers situations. Very fast footwork....just like Pakua/Bagua Kung Fu...always circling around the opponents.
happydragon5077 3 months ago
Good for her. I think it is wonderful that this girl can protect herself like this. I wish I knew what she did.
drafthorselover 5 months ago
I find all these arguments over the effectiveness of Aikido futile, always those who like to stand in a small defined area toe to toe trading kicks and punches consider it ineffective, so tell me, is a tank ineffective because you are not allowed to use it in a marksmanship competition?
there is a secret to aikido which I have never known taught, it is something for each to discover on their own, I myself didnt discover this secret until years AFTER I had given up the art
TheStudley96 7 months ago
A martial art makes the best of what you have. If your opponent is much stronger than you then you're fucked if its a wrestling match. It is important to learn wrestling techniques, but they should be used only when offensive forms of martial arts cannot be.
Sidowse 8 months ago
great video aikido is great i been training aikido for 5 years thank u sensei jocic for this beautiful video
unholy231 9 months ago
girl moves like a bagua master.
TheScouseExile 9 months ago
this proof to every one that no body need to be stronger to be a fighter / esto prueba que nadie necesita ser fuerte para ser un peleador
Zergrush64 9 months ago
Song name is Resolution from the Phil Thornton album Tibetan Meditation....
lewin5211 10 months ago
that girl is mean. every time the guy tries to shake her hand and say 'hello', she slaps him on the ground and breaks his arm. so sad.
DoBrigh 1 year ago
It seems like a very personal style of aikido. I couldn't see much of the classic techniques of hombu dojo although it have a liquid performance. The shomen uti is not working as a direct attack on the nage in randori but as an attack on someone at his side. Could you please tell if this is a hybrid of aikido with other martial arts? Not knocking, just asking, though.
TullioWalker 1 year ago
i would love to see an aikido black belt against a brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.....probably the top two strongest martial arts................peace......B
briantfenton 1 year ago
JIU JITSU > aikido #Fact
hoffygirl27 1 year ago
IMO
ikido has the best, amazing angles to defent against multiple hostiles.
its best for smaller people
kenseisato1989 1 year ago
Aikido player must be fast and determined if he can combine both things wth skill he will be excellent wherever he is and whoever he fights...
speedyone1980 1 year ago
Question, what's real about this aikido? I don't get te word "real" for it?
B0endertjuh 1 year ago
can you show me how to defend the kickboxer type?
salserony 1 year ago
lol a dole pise temperatura u beogradu 21 stepen
dzoni1997 1 year ago
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Aikidoka5 1 year ago
I love the style that you have to evade a blow.
Good training, really. A variety of techniques and are very refined, is the elusive and effective fluid at a time. I hope some agree with you on course!
Teaching would be very grateful ^^
Aikidoka5 1 year ago
nat rocks!
edsonembalagem 1 year ago
many people thinks that aikido technique is about grab the hand. that is totally wrong. actually aikidoka is knowing how to punch or even kick when they do counter attack. but the aikidoka prefer not to do that, because that is not the point of aiki-way.
sugebeb 1 year ago
It's ridicoulus... look at that punches... they are unnatural, artificial, straight... not a faint, not a strategy... nothin at all... Very good to see, very useless in real life.
darthzilio 1 year ago
@darthzilio strikes of any kind are highly secondary in aikido. the most prominent weapon is the ground.
TheBluePlanet42 1 year ago
@TheBluePlanet42 I saw an aikido expert fighting with a Kickboxer last year. The fight lasted 3 seconds: feign left, right kick, aikido expert down.
darthzilio 1 year ago
@darthzilio and?
TheBluePlanet42 1 year ago
It's "Resolution - Natural Sounds"
icebear317 1 year ago
Please show me these move in a real fight. Fast jabs and other combo will ko this people!
heavy246 2 years ago
@heavy246
not if your arm is broken from the first jab you try....
mandrias87 2 years ago 2
very unlikely!
heavy246 2 years ago
Its from the pc video game Icewind Dale but cannot locate which track it is... Can the poster of this video assist in naming the track... Thanks
lewin5211 2 years ago
Wow. Please tell me the name of the SoundTrack Music in the background? So beautiful with indian flute and some Psybient newage sounds..love it ..whats the track ? plz
AryaSravaka 2 years ago
damn.she is safe
AryaSravaka 2 years ago
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did she died?
mortalxmen 2 years ago
Very smooth...; )
Kavoorka 2 years ago
Sensei Josic, I am not sure but, is this a Korean style of Aikido, the Hankido? bow
kokyu10 2 years ago
No,Korean style looks like Serbian style Aikido ;)
SENSEIJOCIC 2 years ago
@kokyu10
ha, ha
SENSEIJOCIC 1 year ago
beautiful flowing like a still river becoming a waterfall at the mounts edge.
caatabatic 2 years ago
A brown/black belt?? Odd, Aikido knows no belt grading as far as I know?
DJGahann 2 years ago
This is belt grading. Its all different depending on what AIkido you train. I was always taught that a belt colour doesn't show how much the person knows because in Aikido you are always learning and developing. In my dojo we arnt pressured to go up in belt levels.
lamarzocco87 2 years ago
in the dojo im being taught in we use belt grading not to say hey look im a blue belt but to show how hard you can be thrown
enotsfreak 2 years ago
w8 a minute she's dead?
afiqsince86 2 years ago
she is anticipating a little bit, but she is better than a lot of videos i have seen on here
jayjay556 2 years ago
she is the big master
25wolwerin 2 years ago
What's up with all the spinning? wasting energy is not real Aikido, ha ha
luiscantero 2 years ago
who is Nesha?
NewZealfighter 2 years ago
ASSISTENT...
SENSEIJOCIC 2 years ago
????
NewZealfighter 2 years ago
Nice video. Would be more helpful if author would not speed it up....
azakaramakar12 2 years ago
the point in aikido indeed is to NOT finish off your opponent *by killing him* but giving him so much damage he is unable to further attack you* finishing off doens't mean KILLING a person if you break one of his arms.. and then take in 3 quick nerve strikes *solarplexus for example* u got LOADS of time to escape ur attacker
Tigermonk02 2 years ago
She is a Brown belt apparently practicing for her black belt.
mastaphin 2 years ago
the only thing i don't like about Aikido is 1-the peaceful way, and 2- you can never finish the opponent off. Notice how the girl keeps fighting them over & over again.
Will she ever be done with them, and go on happily back home???
firefox3601 2 years ago
if you break someone's arm they are pretty much finished.
jeruke 2 years ago 4
i think it would put you down if a 160 cm girl makes one move with her hand and you are flying 2 metres away from her...
DaChris92 2 years ago
@firefox3601 She isnt going to finnish them people of as they r the people she practises with so shes not going to hurt them.
me27742632333 1 year ago
This looks good to me!
GojuBob 2 years ago
yes it does look good but completely useless and would lose a real fight against almost any martial art....
SlugDropsonheads 2 years ago
Totally Agree Dude!
Chijousaikyo 2 years ago
que es esoooo?
huawy 2 years ago
The guy without the hakama at 2:16 should really work on his attacks and keep his attention towards Tori, everytime she moves out the way, you don't see him for ages, he should be there, on top of her, keeping the pressure until she actually does something.
ChadMaestro 2 years ago
Chadmaestro; You're right. And it seems to me that most attackers seem to know what's expected from them so they kind of coorporate with the defender. I really do mis the sharpness and agression in this "ballet"
jan1035 2 years ago
Of course there is some coorporation from the "attackers" because if there was not someone would get hurt very quickly
In arts like aikido what is important is learning about geometry of attacks the study of motion and your psych your mind spirt and how calm you can think under pressure
The "attackers" are not the enemy.They are her teachers and her tools for learning and self discovery
The enemy is your own uncalm mind
it has nothing to do with the person in front of you.
NewZealfighter 2 years ago 6
ok thank you for your comment, i understand.
jan1035 2 years ago
an excellent explanation..
afiqsince86 2 years ago
Well said bud....
lamarzocco87 2 years ago
@NewZealfighter I love your explanation. What you have said here should be taught to every beginner that enters the Aikido dojo before they learn their first technique. Good job putting into words the uke nage relationship!
ademiranda2 2 weeks ago
PLEASE CHANGE THE SOUNDTRACK ! ! !
Anjinsann 2 years ago 2
with all the due respect to the art itself i must say many people in the martial arts world are very delusional about their abilities.
in a real life situation knowing one method can be detrimental to what really occurs,most teachers have never been in
a real fight.
let's not lead others in the wrong direction
because of one dimensional thinking.
samk888 2 years ago 2
pretty awesome I like the wrist chuck move she did around :40 i've been reading and researching several different asian martial arts over the years and i think aikido is great. i've taken an interest in russian sambo recently though, its pretty badass...
SmokesdaGanja 2 years ago
Descance en paz
kokyu10 2 years ago
I like the sneaky groin kick at around 2:28
jwgeezer 2 years ago
no running, open and wide atack - no aikido, that is why i think its not too good - against a stuuuupid atacker it would work perfectly but against a one that has some fighting expierience it wouldnt
tarsonis10 2 years ago
Y a mi me gustaría ver a Mike Tyson contra unos Maras Salvatruchas... El arte puede ser muy bueno pero el artista muy malo, no sé si me explico. Y sí, a mi tampaco me dejó muy convencido ese randori. Ella da muchas vueltas y los ataque son somo flojos pero si lo vemos desde el punto de vista de un ejercicio para educar al cuerpo a moverse pues esta bien.
jluistl 2 years ago
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No es el aikido o el jujutsu o el karate o la técnica en turno la que combate contra otro... es el individuo contra el individuo.
Aiki enriquece la visión intelectual del combate, y la nutre de espiritu... Pruebalo, es una experiencia.
Enriquece tu camino marcial de todos los caminos. saludos
isvorsesdansa 2 years ago
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isvorsesdansa 2 years ago
se vera que los uke(atacante) atacan fingidos. pero el que tiene que ser de tori (defensor/activo) no actua fingido actua x enseñanzas propias ampliar tecnicas como si fuera un kata.. a simple vista con una persona es facil demostrar tecnicas. pero de dos o mas tiene que combinarlas interactuar uno mismo. nunca sabe si en la vida te atacaran de dos. imaginatelo.. pero el aikido es de lo mejor no usas la fuerza controlas la fuerza y usas la mente como enseñanza de ti mismo..
shant690 2 years ago
about fighting..... aikido is basically an art for defense , no attack no aikido.... but,... after practicing 2 or three months..... it really gives u the necesary quickness to solve a real fighting situation... however, after ayear u'll have the wisdom to solve ur problems without fighting.... aikido is harmony.... no opposition
ORLANDO2217 2 years ago 12
@ORLANDO2217 And after four years or so you will actually be able to help yourself with it efficently
satananass 1 year ago
@ORLANDO2217 y but real aikido has a huge difference, unlike normal aikido your goal in real aikido is to disable your opponent as fast as possible and toend the fight as fast as possible, this means hurting your enemy.
RogueCoup 5 months ago
UFC is a sport. You can't bend fingers (no small joints manipulations), poke eyes, throat, gorin, fish hook. Can't really compare with Aikido. In a real self defense situation anything goes. The training is really about how your body will natually react to attacks.
killarse 2 years ago 3
I totally agree with Killarse, UFC is a sport, and a brutal one at that. There is NO small joint locks, eye gouching, attacking the knee etc. You cannot compare UFC to the real thing. This Aikido is the REAL thing...
slouttop 2 years ago
Um... nice dancing.
sfgx123 3 years ago
Just think ! you could win the UFC belt, without a scratch .With AIKIDO .
6466611 3 years ago
it isn't Aikido. it's very different from Aikido.
vince1349 2 years ago
It seems there is a lot of disagreement over aikido's effectivity. The main goal for aikido practitioners is avoiding a fight. The fact that you haven't seen aikidokas fight is a testament to that, therein lies your answer. What about in a real fight? What fight, we avoid fights. If you are one who wishes to fight, then aikido just isn't for you. Peace.
andrewaswang 3 years ago
This is the only one of the aspects...Peace.
hitmanloveheart 3 years ago 3
BUT the point of ANY martial art is to, at its CORE, is to be a form of SELF DEFENSE!! The "It is meant to avoid fights and that's why you never see an Aikido practioner in a fight." is TOTAL BS! You should NEVER look for a fight, but what about the unavoidable situation?? The situation were a man is accosted by a drunkard that refuses to let the Aikido guy just "walk away?" A female that is jumped by a rapist?? THESE are the questions that we want answered!! NOT for a streetfight!
GJJFan 3 years ago
a man accosted by a drunkard can lead the drunkard to a bar to drink some more. a female jumped by a rapist... if shouting or spitting at the rapist doesn't deter him, then the use of ground techniques will. What is total BS is the way you believe that aikidoka will not use what they know, because they will... as a last resort. peace.
andrewaswang 3 years ago 3
LOL That is funny the way that you think that you can reason with anyone that is intent on harming you! LMAO "just lead them back to a bar.." and "if spitting and yelling doesn't deter the rapist." LMFAO WHAT world do you live in that it is so easy to deter and prevent crimes?? Sure, you ARE going to need standing AND ground work to help yourself in these situations. But as I said BEFORE, fighting SHOULD be your last resort, but sometimes, it is the ONLY OPTION you have against criminals!
GJJFan 3 years ago
Also, if you think that WE believe an Aikido practioner will NOT use what they know to defend themselves, then *I* think you missed the point of what we were all saying. ANY system CAN work when trained properly. It was just the statements made that there is ALWAYS a way out of fighting, even in deadly situations, that made me question the statements made. I've always enjoyed the beauty of Aikido, and known a few BBs. NOT knocking on Aikido, just some of the statements made. That's all.
GJJFan 3 years ago
yes, as a form of self defense! re: life & death situation only!!! and not to test the skills just to make ur self called tough!!! we'r more on to discipline not barbaric ways... ask ur self why there aint no shaolin masters in the octagon??? bec. of so called discipline.. peace!
simplesensei 3 years ago
I agree again with simplesensei.
The real fighters IE masters have nothing to prove and they would not indulge in a babaric act such as the UFC.
UFC is not martial art, but just plain and simply fighting.
Any fight untrained or rained would attract a crowd. So you cannot compare Aikido to the UFC. Aikido at least potrayed here is a turew art form. A way of peace and harmony. With such a mentally and well being what do these guys have to prove in the Octagon? .....nuf said!
slouttop 2 years ago
To watch this video in HIGH QUALITY and listen STEREO AUDIO You have to add this (&fmt=18) to existing URL without the brackets.Than hit ENTER.
SENSEIJOCIC 3 years ago
buena coreografia...............
villlanueva 3 years ago
nice
Puddleglum94 3 years ago
no es pa tanto xd
xlins 3 years ago
not bad!
big15Felix 3 years ago
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To end all this back and forth bickering why don't you so called real Aikido practitioners participate in a no holds barred fight instead of this coreographed dances...?
Kokahara2007 3 years ago
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To end all this back and forth bickering why don't you so called real Aikido practitioners participate in a no holds barred fight instead of this coreographed dances...?
Kokahara2007 3 years ago
Cock!!
dooyeweerd 3 years ago
and that means .... sorry my english isnt that good so would you be more specific ? Thanks in advance
REALNANATA 3 years ago
duno abwt u lot but i wudnt mess wiv her lol
534nyboi 3 years ago
If someone was doing real aikido most onlookers wouldn't even know what the guy did. It would look nothing like any of these videos. To do Aikido in a combat way requires someone with excellent ukemi, someone who can really attack. Even if he had excellent ukemi he would probably still get seriously hurt. Which is why you see everything long and drawn out. This is not real aikido. What this is is a demonstration of how it unfolds in the macrocosom so it can be observed, studied and learned.
Dismae 3 years ago
Aikido is a very powerfull martial art... The issue is that it takes like 10 years of continous practice to get a decent level... Not like other martial arts than takes 2 to 3years to get a good level. (I'm not saying those are not efectives) is just that each aikido technic has many variations, and punches and kick does not.and i must say aikido is not all that fanci movements, that look like dancing,aikido is manage the flowing energy. someday will be an aikidoka at MMA or UFC.
miloedo 3 years ago
You are in the wrong style of Aikido. Stay away from the majority of them because i.e. Aikikai styles, that's where this "aikido isn't efficient as a martial art" mentallity comes from. Look into Tomiki style or offshoot of Tomiki Aikido Kihara Aikido by Karal Geis. He was a student of Tomiki and Tomiki was a student of Usheiba and Kano. It doesn't take years to get good...less than a year and you'd be pretty good.
Dismae 3 years ago
Ever seen Aikido in the UFC? Ever wondered why?
zencat13 3 years ago
Because UFC forbids a lot of the techniques and mechanisms Aikido uses. That's why.
Amibop 3 years ago
Do you really believe that? An Aikidoka would be annihilated in any MMA contest. You can't imagine a honed athlete like GSP being long about dispelling your misguided opinions. Sorry maybe you meant it as a joke....
zencat13 3 years ago
Ueshiba defeated sumos, karateka jijutsuka, and I guess I must be forgetting thousands of other guys, just dodging contacts and blocking kicks and punches, throwing and applying arm and leg locks. Those guys, Gozo Shioda included, wanted to ridiculize his defense technique thinking it was fake. Ueshiba NEVER lost a fight. He was admired by all the Masters of his time. Aikijutsu he learnt between 1915 and 1922 was a samurai martial art. But, it evolved too softenly because of Ueshibas's faith.
jamalsan 3 years ago
Honestly very funny...I think you need 1) a history lesson - Samurai era anyone? 2) a reality check - if Aikido was a realistic and practical street martial art it would be proven. It hasn't. Your are dreaming - if you don't believe me go spar with some Ju Jitsu practitioners... they will show you what's up.
zencat13 3 years ago
Actually, I've heard that from Aikido users.
The problem with Aikido is that it has no ground fighting and is very reliant on small joint manipulations (at least that's what my friend tells me) that are largely forbidden in UFC.
Watch some of the throws Aikido users practice. A UFC fighter who isn't trained to counter that stuff, because it's not in the rule book, could fall badly and end up with permanent damage.
Amibop 3 years ago
Now I am starting to feel sorry for you...Have you ever even seen UFC??
zencat13 3 years ago
Have you ever seen a good Aikido fighter? I've watched my friend, who does Aikido, defeat three fighters at once, two of them were kickboxers and the last one was a boxer who fought competitively.
It doesn't work well in the ring because of rules and restrictions, but as a street martial art, it definately works.
Amibop 3 years ago 12
wtf? why?
The No Holds Barred rules should be enough for Aikido, because in Aikido there aren't any deadly or illegal moves, like in bujinkan or kung fu LOL
But why doesn't any aikidoka compete? Because they cannot fight against resisting opponents.
Maganmetal 3 years ago
@Amibop a member has said about a YT video of a party on a supposed aikido guy defending himself in a fight against a guy who seemed to be a brazilian jiujitsu practicioner or something. The latter tried to throw the aikido guy on the ground, as they always do, but the aiki guy in a difficult risk situation broke the arm of another guy. He said the video is shocking because of the screams of pain and arm twisted, but I'd like to see it. If anyone knows, please let me know how to find it. Thanks.
TullioWalker 1 year ago
Aikido its not a sport combat, so plz dont compare it to MMA. It makes no sence. An aikido student or master its not trained in combat skills so of course that in the ring they should loose againts more prepared ones.
GWarriorMS 3 years ago
It's not real Aikido! and not belong any one of four Aikido organizations! we just can call this is Brazil style's Aikido.
aikidoroger 3 years ago
you are stupid
DesignJZ 3 years ago
if i married some one like this..i will be dead for sure :D:D.......such a rough sport
romombo 3 years ago
some good stuff there.. but usually good aikidoka dont turn their backs on the uke as much as that... leaves too many opportunities for the uke
TheJapanChannelDcom 3 years ago
Each martial art is designed for specific purpose. aikijitsu against shielded opponents (hands, wrists vulnerable), shao lin(kicks from high grounds), Wing tsun in close buildings(no elaborate kicks), silat(jungle warfare,keris, muddy ground), muay thai (battle against krabi krabong).People should know the principles behind each technique and then suit to your environment and your physique.Learn all ranges. dont expose weakness.Try not to get sucked in a fight.If u do, get in n get out quickly
matkasim 3 years ago
hey guys how effective is Aikido in a real fight is it any good. i think its very hard to learn
anyone got a video that show Aikido in a real fight?
Froastwolf 3 years ago
Most Aikido videos are demonstration style; the attacker (Tori) and the defender (Uke) are practicing WITH each other. I agree that it is a very technical and aesthetic martial art - with it's heart in the right place. But if you want to learn to fight try Jujitsu, Judo, wrestling, Karate etc.
zencat13 3 years ago
Judo might be the way to go
Froastwolf 3 years ago
Well I am biased about Judo!! -- if you search for Judo in You Tube, or some of the great champions names; Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki, Yasuhiro Yamashita, Kosei Inoue etc..you won't be disappointed. Judo is a great Martial Art, very well developed with a fantastic competitive sport element too, all this accompanying a proud lineage... not to take from any of the others. Good Luck and let us know how you get on.
zencat13 3 years ago
judo is the sport version of jujitsu. Its randori makes the participant efficient in doing a technique in sports. when u both are holding each other lapel, you would be doing a judo technique like outer reaping then juji gatame. Im just saying , theres another dimension like head butt, kneecapsmashing,eye gourging which is faster n suitable especially when there are more than one attacker. Judo is good but not complete.
matkasim 3 years ago
Don't get me wrong here -I admire other well rounded martial arts too. But the simple fact is that it is impossible to practice fully the techniques you mention; therefore their affectivity is weakened. Judo teaches the full range of it's techniques with the means to use them with full force AND against full resistance.If you want to learn how to look after yourself, become stronger and fitter, cut through the often espoused BS in martial arts -- and have a good time - Judo is the place for you!
zencat13 3 years ago
U can aplly full range techniques in judo as in aikido. In judo you make the other to quick, in aikido you provoke pain to he point that will brak if he resists or if u apply a litle more pressure. The jumps are for avoiding geting injured. I have broke a wrist already in a aikido train. With all respect, judo is a litle bit limited. jujitsu its a lot more complete, has a lot more techniques.
GWarriorMS 3 years ago
I agree that Jujitsu is a great method, but I have a preference to the training offered in Judo. There are plenty of great REALITY based fighting systems. I simply feel that Aikido offers more of the "Art" and less of the "Martial". The odd mention you made of breaking your wrist proves nothing toward the effective nature of Aikido or how hard you train; good training doesn't result in injury.
zencat13 3 years ago
When u train on the limit that can happen. In my case was because the shodan wasnt carefull enough with me being a principiant. In judo the figth finishes to quicly..for instances, when u touch with your back in the floor. . This says a lot about the diference between them
GWarriorMS 3 years ago
Seriously - I could ruin the tenor of this debate and call you an idiot now - or simply call it quits and write you off as another odd ball fantasist. Either way I think you are that far divorced from reality that I could tell you my cat just farted an effigy of Satan and he thinks we should all just kiss and make up. Bye bye -- take care of your wrist.... Idiot.
zencat13 3 years ago
YOU need to open your mind. It is a proven fact that aikido is efficient. This is only contested by BJJ enthusiast. Aikido is a jujutsu art based on unbalancing. It is not a sport like judo or karate or BJJ. Aikido may be unefficient in a ring, but not as a martial art.
jamalsan 3 years ago
Maybe you are right Jamal..
zencat13 3 years ago
u are very mind limited.. go and pratices some more and diferent martial arts so u can came in here and give seriously comments. u dont learn by watching videos kid so shut that mouth up
GWarriorMS 3 years ago 3
You have articulated your point so persuasively I might just follow your advice. You should write a book. I would buy it.
zencat13 3 years ago
With the greatest respect it looks like people pretending to do Jujutsu but preferring to dance....This stuff wouldn't work in real life situation. I think that most Aikidoka know this already - but want to practice Budo. No harm done...I think?!
zencat13 3 years ago
the question i have when looking at aikido videos is this. Is there in existence a video that shows an attack with real intent to 'takedown' an aikido practitioner in which he or she has successfully repelled using aikido techniques.the closest thing i have come to seeing this is during a black belt, randori test in a seagal dojo in japan. yes i know alot of people regard seagal as some kind of a joke but i don't share that view.
Sielomax 3 years ago
I think it would be rare to find such a video, if it does exist... I haven't seen an aikidoka wear padding such as those in taekwondo, so we are told to control our strikes to minimize injury - so strikes rarely fall, if they do, it would be accidental. I cannot confirm, but I believe padding or protection is also not allowed in aikido, you don't wear any so that if you are hit, you are forced to realize that as well as being inflicted pain, you can also inflict pain, it depends on you.
andrewaswang 3 years ago
this aikedo crap is such a load. any one can do coreographed shit. i want to see a real fight damnit
trouble101ks 3 years ago
go to cage fight :P
There you can see enough blood and real fight :)
REALNANATA 3 years ago
which part you think was choreographed?
andrewaswang 3 years ago
very good techniques, good ground control and tai sabakis, please if you like see our keitenkai aikido videos to share some experiencies
mbelaochaga 3 years ago
What type of aikdio is this? It's very agressive :S
Frozeal 3 years ago
it is REAL aikido-Modified aikido,created for people outside Japan (he don't have nothing with Budism,many moves are reconstructed becouse Japanese people are small,and some moves in aikido is not changed for hunderd years,so this is realistic aikido,and you can really use them to defened yourself).Real aikido is make Ljubomor Vracarevic from Serbia,and you can find on goole about him and his work ;)
NisamJaBre 3 years ago
Define "Realistic". I think O'sensei's videos are realistic enough :S
Frozeal 3 years ago
Just use google and try to find answer yourself :) i already explain you what is different in real aikido.
NisamJaBre 3 years ago
looks great,,
hondalover84 3 years ago
The way she moves, NATALY must be wild in bed. The way she uses her HIPS, I'm sure she is able to thrust her hips wildly forward during SEX, her climaxes and orgasms are likely continuous and flowing just like her Martial art.
kissoct666 3 years ago
Too bad you will never experience either of those things, be it her or understanding a martial art.
GPLA1 3 years ago
Good one! Maybe yes Maybe no. Time will tell. :)
kissoct666 3 years ago
hahahahaha awesome
GardenGnome02 3 years ago
lol!
BadBoy2theMax 3 years ago
oh come on! Look at the jiuwaza (working with 2 partners) it's ridicilous! If either one of them would atack her for real hahha it would never work in reality. Over and out.
LjubicicaBG 3 years ago
Dear Ljubicica,i'll try to explain you this jiuwaza:
1st -it is practise of movement with 2 partners
2nd -in reality this is loot differant and it is finished in 2-3 moves
To come to 2nd part you have to learn 1st part -its like with those Kolibri kids(but cant say for Karleusa also :P)-first they learn notes,basics and then they are going on 2nd,advanced level :D
If you have any other questions or doubts,i will gladly explain everything-or you can even post your vid and show it better ;)
REALNANATA 3 years ago
I have a question about the jiuwaza. In the aikido I practise we don't turn around all the time. I wonder what the point is there, I really like real aikido style. I'm kinda missing some of that real action in mine but as mentioned before it looks ridiculous and effective at the same time. Stil... why turning your back to your opponent ?
GPLA1 3 years ago
Every "throw" is essentially useless, but the movement and balance practice is nontheless great improvement, also considering how "real" fights can unfold. These are the "weaker" techniques shown, it's merely a show to emphasise some traditional techniques for the sake of learning, not fighting.
Try exploring other types of techniques and possibilities Aikido offer, and you'll be suprised how effective it can be.
Pharnax 3 years ago
I train in more arts (Aikido,5yrs). I've done Thai-boxing and when I bring out a low kick, people freeze having no answer. I disagree on the throws tho, I find them very effective at moments. I'm not doubting the effectiveness of Aikido in general, I think once decently mastered there is no more effective art out there. I tried randori with 3 beginners cos their attacks are not 'aikidoshaped' doing it the way I see here and it just doesn't work against them. I does for more experienced aikidoka.
GPLA1 3 years ago
¡Que bonita muchacha! ¡Y que atacantes tan torpes...! ¿O tan coreografiados?
Novum07 3 years ago
apart from the 3 man combo stuff ur technique is very efficient (thats if u havent sped up the footagem,and i'll assume u havnt) good stuff, keep it up.
1zxking1 3 years ago
Great for the movies. Has nothing to do with REAL SELF DEFENSE.
kissoct666 3 years ago
that has got to be the most clueless thing i've heard all week
1zxking1 3 years ago
You've never been in a real fight. Every SINGLE move is like dancing. Example scenerios: YOU MOVE HERE THEN YOU GO HERE, YOU THROW A PUNCH THEN I DO THIS MOVE AND YOU REACT IN THIS MANNER, OKAY ALL YOU GUYS ATTACK ME AND YOU WILL REACT IN THIS MANNER AND IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ME...ETC.
kissoct666 3 years ago
what style do you train in man?
dvisk 3 years ago
Street Style. If it works on the streets I'll do it. I don't waste time. :)
kissoct666 3 years ago
nevermind 4:15 try 4:30 nicechoreography.keep an eye on how he fell and what arm she ends up holding.convenient that his right arm ends up rightwhere it needs to be for her to throw him so neatly.Demonstrations piss me off.the uke always dives like a soccer player/attacks with ridiculous attacks.This is what bastardizes martial arts.Train for showing off (or for sport)and you'll die a bloody death. Train to fightand it may not bepretty but you win regardless of which art you choose.
deathsicyfinger 4 years ago
...WOW! this kinda looked like a ballet to me it was smooth and fluent i really liked it!!!
sutebi2 4 years ago
Hello Natalia. Very effective your Akido. I like much. Greetings.
deportealdo23 4 years ago
Hi Nataly, it me again.
Could you be so kind to tell me where do you teach aikido? (country and city)..
Many thanks and again, your aikido is wonderfull
tommyaikido 4 years ago
Hi Tommy :D
I live and teach in Belgrade , Serbia :)
And AGAIN thanks my friend ( dont forget our deal ;] )
REALNANATA 4 years ago
It's not really a traditional form of Aikido, but i like it. Especially the way you move in randori
niken47 4 years ago
i am surprised in your randori , I have not seen any one that can compare with you, congratulations.
Estoy sorprendido de tu randori no habia visto a nadie que se pueda comparar contigo . felicidades.
Sensei Saavedra
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jarajitsu 4 years ago
Nice!!
denman778 4 years ago
Really fluid. Nice.
andrewaswang 4 years ago
this is AIKIDO .... why not ??
AlexTb89 4 years ago
I cant believe what people sell as AIKIDO ! this has nothing to do with AIKIDO, so please stop to name your videos "AIKIDO"
go2sotare 4 years ago
this is real aikido
megalomeniacal 4 years ago