Love your stuff DarkMatter2525 but this isn't a very good analogy, stick with pointing out the hypocrisy of religions and away from demi-goding political issues (this video makes you sound like a religious nut!)... The jesus can in this video can heal anything without effort. So of course he is an asshole for not helping. However in real life the ability to heal someone takes a LIFETIME of dedication, hence the need for compensation or there would be nobody to do the healing.
A liberal's solution to a problem is one that throws the most money at the problem, while making themselves appear to be compassionate. If the money doesn't solve the problem, it is because we didn't throw ENOUGH money at it. (examples: public schools,Obama's economic stimulus). If we throw more money at it, and it still doesn't solve the problem, it is still because we didn't throw enough money at it. It never ends. Anyone who suggests NOT throwing more money down the toilet gets demonized.
@Firesprink72 Well that's because quite often the problem at least in part is that we didn't throw enough money at it. Public Schools and Obama's stimulus both being great examples of when we didn't throw nearly enough money at a problem.
And if Jesus was a socialist... We'd have all the problems today that are caused by Christianity. Oh, wait, we already have those. The video you just posted is aimed at the wrong person. It is our government that sets the bullshit rules and allows others to do the same. And it's the Christian nonsense that forces us to choose between a good government or social issues like abortion. That's where the shit comes from.
advocated for the common sharing of wealth and of the means of production, and also, how this movie sarcastically points out, for free, non-profit driven, health care. I would classify him somewhere in-between Marx, Gandhi and Lenin, as he had both humanist tendencies and revolutionary ones.
@amtoyumtimmy: And I guess it was a "private donation" too when Apostle Peter killed Ananias and Sapphira for not putting ALL of their wealth in common, wasn't it? :)) People were killed for trying to make money rather than helping the community in the bible. It was not voluntary sharing or private donations. It was mostly uncle Stalin's forced collectivization recipe, so no, Jesus was not conservative at all! He was more merciful than the apostles, but he still was a pacifist communist, as he
Jesus is actually very conservative. If they were liberal or even socialist, everybody would go to heaven without question, whether they earned it and believed or not. Since they actually make people work to 'get to heaven'(become spiritually rich) and let others go to hell(a shunning of the spiritually poor). Sounds pretty conservative to me. haha Throw in some discrimination for these spiritually poor and it's complete right? haha just an alternative interpretation. Love the vids.
@EpicPhalosophy No, socialized medicine would be if Jesus asked the government to heal the sick by stealing other people's money at gunpoint. In a Capitalist system, Jesus is free to heal whoever he wants, it's not socialized healthcare, just a personal, private donation.
@elizalovebug19 That's exactly the point, dumbass. Right-wing conservatives claim to be Christians but do nothing that Jesus Christ supposedly taught.
@Texmurphy51 "Taxes are going to have to go up, and I certainly agree they should go up more on the rich than on everyone else. That's just justice. ... I don't feel people like myself are paying as much as we should." - Bill Gates, jYnjZ86UvbE
@ukeuwatch Thanks for the quote from Bill Gates but he didnt feel or act that way when he was fighting his way to the top. If you check Liberals who want the rich to pay like John Kerry, Peloci. etc ALL pay the least amount of tax possible.
Liberals want the Other Guy to pay, not them.
Besides, the combined yearly income,(100% not just tax) cannot pay off the debt that the current administration has put us in.
@Texmurphy51 You are right on the ball. Liberals love to talk about their compassion for the less fortunate, but they won't tell you that YOU get to pay for it. Yes they are extremely generous with YOUR money. And oh how the less fortunate love them for it. Who do they think is going to fund their generosity after we all go broke from penalizing success and rewarding failure?
@Texmurphy51 That's not even true at all. You think that's what "liberal" people think, and you are wrong. How would you like it if I summed up everything you stand for from only the stupidest people who align themselves with your political ideals? So then that racist dipshit who had the stuffed monkey and the idiotic sign that reads "Keep you government hands off my medicare" sums up every person who is conservative then. Knock it off.
@Texmurphy51 You are 100% right. And the Liberal politicians feed into this idea because they know that a lot of people can always be counted on to vote themselves as much "free" stuff as they can get. The politician who promises the most free shit to the most people, gets those votes, while the rest of us are stuck paying for it. Any politician who explains that this is wrong and we can't afford it, is accused of hating poor people.
@Firesprink72 YOU don't pay for it. The top 5% of the nation pays for it and unless your making millions of dollars a year, then stop slamming liberals. You know what you do pay for? Education, health, and taxes - all of which could be lowered for you if taxes were just raised for the rich. Rich people can afford to help the poor and the middle class, but they're too greedy to do it voluntarily.
@LermanProductions You just slammed your own arguement. You just said, "YOU don't pay for it. The top 5% of the nation pays for it and unless your making millions of dollars a year, then stop slamming liberals." You admit that the rich ARE not only paying their fair share, but also paying benefits to poorer people, which is a fact. But then you turned around and said that we should raise their taxes more. If we taxed them at 100%, we still couldn't pay for everything.
@LermanProductions Furthermore, rich people DO help the poor and the middle class. They create the jobs. They invest the money that lower class people use to start or expand their own businesses. They own the stock that puts value into your 401K. Also, to a large degree, they do donate money voluntarily. People forget that the liberals in the government who demonize the rich, are rich themselves. Conservatives believe that MORE Americans shold be rich, not less.
@Firesprink72 Stop it. Saying my buying a mansion, and a Ferrari, and staying at 5 star resorts has a trickle down effect therefore I'm helping the poor is just fucking stupid.
Fundie Christians are loud obnoxious and stupid. But, Liberal Christians dont do enough to shut them up or tell them theyre not acting decent. That is when I realize, the Liberal Christians are no better than the fundies because they cant keep their pit bulls in check. Sorry, No Christian deserves heaven.
All you liberals should put your money where your mouth is. Health care does cost money, like it or not. If you believe that it should be free, pay your own way through medical school and become a doctor. Then buy a hospital and pay for all the expenses of running it out of your own pocket in order to provide your services for free. Some people actually do this. Its called charity. The money is given by choice, not taken by force. THAT is where you guys are wrong.
@Rainbowsixoperator1 It's complete bullshit, that's what it is. It is a totally false image of conservatism that is painted by liberals and supported by the media. Great example; "everyone knows" that Pres. Bush banned stem cell research, right? Wrong! There was NEVER any ban on stem cell research, embryonic or otherwise. In fact, Bush was the first president to allocate federal money FOR embryonic stem cell research. Of course that's not the image you get from the media.
@Firesprink72 as usual the conservative is totally ignorant of the facts. The Bush Administration and the dim bulb Republicans in congress banned federal funding for the use of embryonic stem cells, greatly limiting the researchable lines. Conservatives have been allied with religious nutballs ever since Reagan.
@MrJimgerard This is a side issue, I only brought it up as an example of how misreporting leads to misunderstanding. Yes, Bush did limit the researchable lines of embryonic stem cells to existing lines, as far as federal funding goes, but he allocated funds FOR those existing lines. Furthermore, there was nothing stopping anyone from doing research with any other money. It's a word game. The media purposely only reported that he "banned" the research without explaining the details.
@Firesprink72 Uuumm, history...sure can't experiment with zygotes cus they're already people you know. The only 'research' conservatives are interested in is military related. Fuckers would rather fund a stupid stealth bomber worthless to today's war theaters than pure biology research to cure people. Wouldn't matter because the fuckers would only allow the rich to receive any new treatments.
I understand your argument that people in need of medical care can sometimes not receive that care on the basis of insurance.
I'm not arguing here, but I'd just like to point out that the opposing point of view is that that health care ideally should not be paid for with random peoples' money.
Personally, I have no clue where I stand there.
But, however, have to point out that your argument does have a slight flaw: most doctors do not have supernatural powers of healing.
I know feeding trolls like TEHTYMEKITTEH1, so i'm not saying shit to him/her/it, but I can't resist addressing some of his craptastic statements. ie: "Liberalism doesnt work in the real world" Umm....Social Security, Medicaire, public education, job safety, food safety, public libraries, public parks, civil rights, worker rights, the middle class due to the "liberal" GI bill. I could go on but you tube has a character limit. Now think of what conservatism has brought to the US. It ain't much.
Capitalism in the form of maxim profits for shareholders, no matter what has no place in healthcare. I read in the ARRP paper the other day of how the manufacturer of a drug that's at the end of the patent life is doing back channel deals with Ins Co. to get the Ins. Co. not to cover a generic versions, but cover the name brand. thus forcing patients to spend more of a co pay for Meds. Only chicken shits would dismiss that as "business"
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 What you say is not the idea of welfare, it is only what you think the idea of welfare is.
The basic concept of welfare is to give a person enough money to keep their house and basic sanitary functions until they get a job again. Unfortunately, the welfare system is extremely flawed and easy to take advantage of.
In conclusion, we are not pandering to the poor, the system is horrible. I blame the government for that.
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 What if that man is blind or has no hands? How will he fish then? Your arguement is flawed,and Jesus never existed so that automatically makes your point moot.
@nowknowthis Actually, he did exist. There are records and other evidence. Of course he wasn't the son of god, but a man named Jesus did get himself crucified in 32 a.d.
@bdoherty44 No. We have an unusually large vacancy of first hand accounts of jesus. There is only ONE source other then the bible from Josephus Flavius and it's written in a different style then the entire rest of that book and he wasn't alive during the time period we assume jesus was. Without that the only people who say they met jesus personally during his tend to come from the bible. It's a such a deafing silence for what the bible claims he did that it's humorous.
@bdoherty44 There's no solid evidence outside of the Bible. Furthermore, the contradiction of the timing of his birth renders Jesus's existence impossible.
If you think the American health care system is a good one, go to the CIA world factbook and sort countries by life expectancy and keep in mind that nearly every modern country has a government funded health care system (i.e., a system that is free for those who have the hardest time earning money -- the sick people). Also, for some weird reason the American system also costs nearly twice as much per capita as that of other Western countries. Maybe it's time for some serious pay cuts?
@taylan637 It's "free" at the time of service, but don't you have to pay taxes to fund the system? So, it is in fact, not "free" at all. If you're not paying tax, it means someone else is paying for you...still not "free".
But equal treatment to all, no matter what disease, doesn't that sound fair? They will never tell you, sry sir we won't treat you for that your insurance doesn't cover it.
But if you get unlucky and get cancer at least here you don't risk to have to loose your house to it.
And face it that's what it's about, the luck of the draw should never have to cost someone all that he has based on your insurance (+-= wealth). Health is a right, for all.
We can print more money for a public heath care system instead of for the military industrial complex, in addition to policing other countries without militaries like Japan and giving government kick backs to countries like Israel. I am sure if they are worried about their countries defense the can buy some of our military equipment and/our move their major companies over here to create more jobs in the tech industries.
I think the complaint is about doctors wanting to be paid. Shame on them!!! The question facing us isn't whether people need or want care, but rather how and who is going to pay for it. It won't ever be "free"...and if no one's noticed, our country is dead broke. We can't meet the financial obligations we have right now and I'm pretty sure raising taxes in a recession is not a good idea.
@kichigaisensei Come to belgium, we have government funded healthcare.
And how can our government pay for it? Well they spend their money on keeping our own population healthy, not on killing the people in other countries.
Stop starting wars and you'll be able to afford decent free healthcare for all. Easy isn't it?
@capusvacans Thank you for your beautifully smug reply. I very much enjoy the superior opinions of all-knowing Europeans. Number one...where did I start any war or say I liked wars? Secondly, the FACT is that even if we cut our defence budget to zero, we would still have a deficit of half a trillion dollars a year! Guess what? That means war is not bankrupting us. Iraq and Afghanistan consumed 1% of our GDP...far less than Vietnam. The end.
@kichigaisensei Don't just count what the war costs, count also your whole military budget, calculations done a while ago pointed out that using 10% of the defence budget of the us on social care would be enough to bring it to European standards.
(of course you'd have to bring the wages of your medical personel back to normal lvl's, not the exagerated wages that your doctors dare charge nowadays)
@capusvacans I'd very much like to see those numbers. 10% of our military budget is roughly $80B. This is a country of 300 million people. So, your assertio is that we can provide unlimited healthcare for every American for $267/year? Not likely.
Hey, guys, how about base some of your arguments against the Amercan system on some FACTS rather than what you think you heard someone say?
not a fair comparison since it didn't cost jesus millions of dollars to perform a miracle. let me know when it stops costing hospitals money to provide health care.
@aj19bcx Prices are waaay overinflated. I went to a hospital for a finding from an MRI (so the doctor told me to go to the hospital). It cost me 41k for a 44 hour stay. That's 1k an hour. It's not the first time I've been to the emergency room, and every other time it was also 1k an hour. CT scan is 2.5k. MRI is 5k. A pill of aspirin is 50 bucks. I went to visit Israel, where I used to live, and the Emergency room was 100 bucks an hour.
@aj19bcx It's not about money. It's about compassion. And Americans clearly don't give a shit about each other when it comes to some issues, health care being the most obvious. The U.S.A. is just not a caring society. Jesus would disapprove of that.
To conservatives it's only wasting money and "big government" if you use money to help people who are struggling. Going to other countries, destroying their infrastructure and killing their citizens all in the name of "promoting democracy" or "fighting terrorism" is OK though.
@LorrieFludd one of their claims does have weight,barely.
If you are capable of supporting yourself then of course you should be expected to, however they believe that if we provide aid to those who are struggling we are "breeding dependancy" .
While it is true that if people get used to the concept of dependancy they begin to become less self sufficient, obviously the cases of severe medical conditions, unexpected job loss, lack of educational opportunities do NOT apply.
@LorrieFludd But this whole "breeding dependancy" they like to trot out is a complete figment if you temper your assistance to those who need it, and no more no less.
Capitalism is NOT the savior of mankind they like to think it is, though it does foster the idea of self sufficiency. It's ultimate motivator is self interest but in its very principle it means someone else must reduced in some way to compensate.
Socialism is NOT the boogeyman they like to pretend it is.
@LorrieFludd Well, one problem there. Conservatives by definition oppose all of that, it's just that there is no conservative party anymore, since Republican politicians decided to turn toward big government, policing the world, government-sponsored corporations, and pretending that separation of church and state isn't a thing. Please don't think ill of actual conservatives based on the actions of those dickheads claiming to represent them.
I think America needs more private charities who will help provide a emergancy health service, which the government could give donations to. What is every one elses views?
If the church did as they are supposed to be doing, then there wouldn't much need for government programs. The government should not stretch itself soooo thin. Business owners at church should find a way to hire people they are aware of that needs a job.
I was expecting something different. On the sub of healthcare: a healthcare facility such as a hospital cannot and will not turn away someone because of financial status or lack of insurance. I work at a hospital and we have a guy right now who is homeless. Anybody who bashes capitalism is obviously somebody who has never tried to own and operate a business for a living and has always been an employee. Only good and honest business peops should stay in biz. It's a lack of understanding. B-)
@Obfrocker this video doesn't attack hospitals, it attacks insurance companies. insurance companies can and often do turn people away. homeless people can get healthcare for free, since they don't have any income or property. but people who do have income or property risk losing all of that to debt if they go to a hospital without insurance. the homeless guy has nothing to lose, people with homes do.
@Cuddlebunzzzz Yeah, that makes sense. But I thought it was the current president (a socialist) that pushed a plan on us saying that we must have insurance by 2012 sometime--an insurance we will in some way or another pay for whether it be with taxes or out of pocket? I don't want insurance nor do I want to be forced to have it. I can get rid of a car--I can't get rid of my body! This whole insurance thing is frustrating. -=:-( I just wish things could as they were prebubble.
@MrWIIFM yea because handing a bunch of customers to PRIVATE corporations is totally socialist...
you will be forced to have insurance when you need medical attention, which will happen at some point in your life. under the current system, if you wait until you're ill to buy insurance, you can't get it because you have a pre-existing condition. so you have to get it before you get sick, or go into terrible debt if you don't get it.
@Cuddlebunzzzz I semi-agree with you. I think the NHS is good for emegergancies, BUT you need a strong immigration force otherwise people just come in to take advantage and also it does penalize the hard-workers who are responsible with their money and buy insurance.
NHS only benefits useless people, provides substandard services, BUT it is very good in helping people like us in emergancies, which is why I quite like it.
@MrWIIFM (cont) but you could also go into terrible debt even if you do have insurance, depending on how severe your condition is. so Americans are screwed either way really. if we weren't so stubborn and ignorant and modeled our healthcare after nations that actually have working systems (socialist nations), then we wouldn't be in this mess. but there's too many people like you who think socialism is evil, so that's never going to happen and we'll be in this mess forever.
@MrWIIFM Na Obama isn't socialist, he's more of a social democrat. I personally detest both, as a libertarian.
BUT I think America does need some form of a NHS BUT the problem with democrats is they just want something for nothing at the expense of ordinary hard-working people. Democrats do tend to be lazy people.
@ForeverComplaining yea but the rich want to pay less in taxes then what the ordinary people pay, hmmmm doesnt seem to work from the left or the right.... we are screwed
@Dufoth try knowing what your talking about. the rich pay the majority of taxes in this country. millionares pay millions. have you ever payed millions? because i sure havent. if you'd like you can pay the same amount of money as they do! would that be more fair for you? the problem with this country, is people are morons and have no clue how things work.
@Dufoth Most of the rich don't even pay tax and what's even more scarier is I found, in the UK and this probably applies to the USA aswell, that the tax ordinary people avoid is more money than what the rich avoid.
I personally detest high taxation but I do think we need strict regulations to make sure EVERYone pays tax, I find it disgusting how people don't, when they are using the roads, the police, fire brigade etc.
@Dufoth Most of the rich don't even pay tax and what's even more scarier is I found, in the UK and this probably applies to the USA aswell, that the tax ordinary people avoid is more money than what the rich avoid.
I personally detest high taxation but I do think we need strict regulations to make sure EVERYone pays tax, I find it disgusting how people don't, when they are using the roads, the police, fire brigade etc.
@Dufoth Most of the rich don't even pay tax and what's even more scarier is I found, in the UK and this probably applies to the USA aswell, that the tax ordinary people avoid is more money than what the rich avoid.
I personally detest high taxation but I do think we need strict regulations to make sure EVERYone pays tax, I find it disgusting how people don't, when they are using the roads, the police, fire brigade etc.
Jesus was conservative because many conservative beliefs come from the bible. Our stance on abortion and gay marriage come from the bible. Also didnt jesus free those poor people from tyranny communism and big government. I believe god is smiling at modern conservatives.
PS If your rich congrats you earned it through hard work, and if your poor you shouldve worked harder in school
@humancasino Matthew 19:24 - "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Luke 6:20-21. "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours in the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who hunger now, for you shall be satisfied." Jesus's teachings clearly favored the poor over the rich. How can you say that Jesus was conservative, when today's economic conservatives antagonize the poor. I'd really like to hear your argument.
@humancasino Actually the first christians were kinda communists, they lived in communities where everything belonged to everyone (Many of this communities were founded by the apostles after jesus's death), also jesus always talked against wealth and there was this time (Matthew 19:16-24) where he told a rich guy that if he wanted to go to heaven he had to give his wealth to the poor (Do I smell socialism?).
@humancasino yes absolutely, i should have let my mother and autistic sister be homeless and just went to college instead of working because that wouldve solved all of her problems. But i guess its her fault for working her whole life to support me, then pinching a nerve in her back AT WORK. Not to mention her brain tumor- guess that's her fault too. .... she was the hardest working person ive ever seen now she is disabled and uninsured and unable to draw disability.
@humancasino I really hope you're joking. Matthew 21:12 "Then Jesus went into the temple, threw out everyone who was selling and buying in the temple, and overturned the moneychangers' tables and the chairs of those who sold doves." Matthew 19:21 "Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" And abortion is never mentioned in the Bible. Here's proof: twitpic(dot)com/6ivafq
i used to worry about atheism the incresing of them but since they never do anything they will never amount to nothing ,,,at the end they will be persecute by the antichrist a fellloow with very powerful religious tendendies..and by the way i worry more about those crazy religious extremist..not atheist..
@HelFKiernan You should take note that for whatever reason starvation is included in the malnutrition statistic (while it's technically true, it's extremely misleading). I ran across that tidbit ironically when I was trying to find statistics for starvation on a worldwide scale. However, the homeless in America still die due to many other preventable conditions, so my original point still stands.
I need help to translate into Portuguese. My english isn't good, so if someone put subtitles in english for me by email, I'll be glad. My english reading is better than hearing. I'm trying to comunicate with Darkmatter2525 but he does not answer. Thanks, guys. (quote this, so I can send you my email)
I'm very confused as to why Noah was DRUNK? (Gen 9:21) and why did Noah get mad at his son Ham simply because Ham saw Noah DRUNK and NAKED? (Gen 9:22) And why did Noah CURSE "Canaan"? (Gen 9:25 - that makes absolutely NO sense!). Canaan did absolutely nothing WRONG. The only thing that even happened was NOAH got DRUNK and NAKED and Ham happened to SEE him, SO WHAT? Why is God allowing Noah to place a CURSE on someone??
83% of conservatives are devout Christians. Can you believe these right wing conservative nut jobs claiming Jesus as their own? That's so ass backwards, like gays voting for Rick Perry. Or Jews worshiping Hitler. Totally contradicting ideologies!!! You only have to look at a republican debate to see how stupid these people are. It's just troubling that they represent HALF a nation!! This doesnt make sense. Someone please explain!!
83% of conservatives are devout Christians. Can you believe these right wing conservative nut jobs claiming Jesus as their own? That's so ass backwards, like gays voting for Rick Perry. Or Jews worshiping Hitler. Totally contradicting ideologies!!! You only have to look at a republican debate to see how stupid these people are. It's just troubling that they represent HALF a nation!! This doesnt make sense. Someone please explain!!
83% of conservatives are devout Christians. Can you believe these right wing conservative nut jobs claiming Jesus as their own? That's so ass backwards, like gays voting for Rick Perry. Or Jews worshiping Hitler. Totally contradicting ideologies!!! You only have to look at a republican debate to see how stupid these people are. It's just troubling that they represent HALF a nation!! This doesnt make sense. Someone please explain!!
@3dwardcullen69 Look what samster817 wrote. That about explains it.
Everyone in my family is like him. I'm not like him. I am the only one in my family with a college degree. It comes down to a few things: compassion, IQ and level of education.
Americans tend to not be very compassionate. I'm fairly certain the IQ level follows the bell curve as it does everywhere else. The part where things break down is a good education. Americans don't need no stinkin' education. :D
@AtheistinFundyLand someones beliefs has nothing to do with their education or IQ, show me what proof you have of this. your argument is based on the assumption that your beliefs are right and any that contradict them are wrong. sorry but circular reasoning will get you NO WHERE with those smart enough to notice it. you honestly dont know how good even homeless people have it in the US. their wealthy compared to most.
@samster817 Incorrect, heavy religion will always have an effect on your intelligence, which is why you will never see a fundamentalist with a credible degree in anything other than religious studies like divinity or religious education.
@samster817 I don't know what homeless people you know, but they certainly do not have it great. Someone starving to death in America is no different than someone starving to death somewhere else. While Americans do have more access to food, eating is not a right in the US, and there is no guarantee that they will get it. No one gets benefits, like food stamps, in America without a valid address.
@samster817 Yeah, Yeah. Comparing the standard of living in the USA to that of Africa or southeast Asia is like taking a healthy high school kid, and having them compete in Special Olympics. Of course they'll come out ahead! Yes, USA comes out ahead when comparing them to 3rd world hell holes, but what about OTHER first world countries? Scandinavian countries have a much higher standard of living than the USA does for example, as well as other west Euro countries.
I'd really like to know where the arabic sounding music from 0:49 is from. It sounds kinda familiar, like I've heard it before in a videogame or something?
@MrArpas123 Heres the issue I have with the whole "earth 6000 years old" thing. the first empire to ever exist existed around 4000 BCE. since you need the knowledge of farming to be able to even grow a population big enough to be considered an "empire" that would mean that somehow these cities popped into existence same day as the supposed creation, with a large enough population to maintain them while God was busy with the "only two humans" on the planet. You derped again creationist.
I remember having huge issues with my ears to the point I had a fever from it when I was younger. Medicine from the family doctor didn't do the job. She took the phone, called the universal hospital(part of a university) and the next day I was sitting next to a specialist, the day after his medicine started working. And all that basically free of costs.
I guess every country has it's issues. But healthcare over here ain't one of them.
lol, the bible makes it clear that its the CHURCHES job to take care of the poor, and the sick are covered by insurance. so boooo hoooo, conservatives make you work for your own money, you poor neglected people, having to actually GET A JOB and stop WHORING off of other peoples money. man i wish i was in another country where people cant even get jobs and every body starves and dies of sickness instead of AMERICA. work for your own money you lazy whores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@samster817 18000 people per year die in the US because of no insurance. No 1st world country scores as low on the US in health care ratings. Please, please, if the churches are taking care of people, then WHY are 18000 dying?
@DarkSunGod haha, i said that is IS the churches job, but in order to really help they would need to be a part of the government, and also would need to get their backbone back. right now the churches are push overs. one wise man said to keep the government out of the church, but NOT the church out of the government. all the church is able to do now is mere charity work.
@nkelly1432 believe me i know enough to extract the information in this stupid unhelpful comment that serves no help in contributing to the argument that you are most definitley both of the below.(in case your to stupid to know where below you can find what you are, im referring to your own comment)
@nkelly1432 LOL, for one, im 15, im used to shortening it down, and second, im not gonna waist my time making my grammar look pretty for someone i dont even know. i can type however i damn want to and theres not a damn thing you evolutards can do about it, then again you could make another red-herring just like this one.
"Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" Matthew 19:21
Something tells me Jesus would have never said, "work for your own money you lazy whores!!!" not everybody who struggles economically is in such a situation because he or she is lazy. But I understand. We have more vital things to spend tax dollars on; like the death penalty.
@roswalt44 actually in the Bible it says the CHURCH is in charge of taking care of the poor and needy. in mathew 19:21,jesus issues a stern challenge designed to show the man that he has not observed the spirit of the commandments, in spite of his claim(v.20). in fact,his selfish attitude in making an idol of wealth reveals that he had broken the very first commandment(Ex. 20:3).all you did my friend was take this verse out of context.
@samster817 The bible also says when the church is done "helping" that person can be indentured to them as a slave to repay their debt and their children will be property of their new owner! Everbody wins!
Love your stuff DarkMatter2525 but this isn't a very good analogy, stick with pointing out the hypocrisy of religions and away from demi-goding political issues (this video makes you sound like a religious nut!)... The jesus can in this video can heal anything without effort. So of course he is an asshole for not helping. However in real life the ability to heal someone takes a LIFETIME of dedication, hence the need for compensation or there would be nobody to do the healing.
Dlahusen1 3 days ago
A liberal's solution to a problem is one that throws the most money at the problem, while making themselves appear to be compassionate. If the money doesn't solve the problem, it is because we didn't throw ENOUGH money at it. (examples: public schools,Obama's economic stimulus). If we throw more money at it, and it still doesn't solve the problem, it is still because we didn't throw enough money at it. It never ends. Anyone who suggests NOT throwing more money down the toilet gets demonized.
Firesprink72 6 days ago
@Firesprink72 Well that's because quite often the problem at least in part is that we didn't throw enough money at it. Public Schools and Obama's stimulus both being great examples of when we didn't throw nearly enough money at a problem.
doct1400 17 hours ago
damn you darkmatter
uAlways get the good part
shtrudel310 1 week ago
This is why I throw away notions of altruistic religion in favor of pure selfishness. Nice animations.
quidnick 1 week ago
And if Jesus was a socialist... We'd have all the problems today that are caused by Christianity. Oh, wait, we already have those. The video you just posted is aimed at the wrong person. It is our government that sets the bullshit rules and allows others to do the same. And it's the Christian nonsense that forces us to choose between a good government or social issues like abortion. That's where the shit comes from.
Prometheus720 1 week ago
@Prometheus720 The bullshit government rules are because of religious dogma.
LOGICandREAS0N 1 week ago
What did I just watch...
TradingTutor 1 week ago
advocated for the common sharing of wealth and of the means of production, and also, how this movie sarcastically points out, for free, non-profit driven, health care. I would classify him somewhere in-between Marx, Gandhi and Lenin, as he had both humanist tendencies and revolutionary ones.
Vict0r1984 1 week ago
@amtoyumtimmy: And I guess it was a "private donation" too when Apostle Peter killed Ananias and Sapphira for not putting ALL of their wealth in common, wasn't it? :)) People were killed for trying to make money rather than helping the community in the bible. It was not voluntary sharing or private donations. It was mostly uncle Stalin's forced collectivization recipe, so no, Jesus was not conservative at all! He was more merciful than the apostles, but he still was a pacifist communist, as he
Vict0r1984 1 week ago
Jesus is actually very conservative. If they were liberal or even socialist, everybody would go to heaven without question, whether they earned it and believed or not. Since they actually make people work to 'get to heaven'(become spiritually rich) and let others go to hell(a shunning of the spiritually poor). Sounds pretty conservative to me. haha Throw in some discrimination for these spiritually poor and it's complete right? haha just an alternative interpretation. Love the vids.
eyeonwashparish 1 week ago
I am socialist and proud that my savior was one too.
nambrik 1 week ago
"Booyaka bitch!" xD
MEareCAT 2 weeks ago
WTF Honestly what kind of crap is this sorry but jesus was perfect and flawless! and LOVED EVERYONE and HEALS ALL
elizalovebug19 2 weeks ago
@elizalovebug19 Someone's a bit butthurt?
Croven86 2 weeks ago
@elizalovebug19 "Heals all"... hmmm.. sounds like socialized medicine to me!
EpicPhalosophy 1 week ago
@EpicPhalosophy No, socialized medicine would be if Jesus asked the government to heal the sick by stealing other people's money at gunpoint. In a Capitalist system, Jesus is free to heal whoever he wants, it's not socialized healthcare, just a personal, private donation.
amtoyumtimmy 1 week ago
@elizalovebug19 That's exactly the point, dumbass. Right-wing conservatives claim to be Christians but do nothing that Jesus Christ supposedly taught.
venusbrain 1 week ago
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why are you mocking my creator??? you are satan membeR!???
to those against GOD they are satan children becoz satan is enemy of GOd
kenneth3532 2 weeks ago
why are you mocking my creator??? you are satan membeR!???
to those against GOD they are satan children becoz satan is enemy of GOd
kenneth3532 2 weeks ago
dumb!!!
yodudespence 2 weeks ago
This reminds me of my recent run-in with Comcast.
AtheistinFundyLand 2 weeks ago
If Jesus was a Progressive the leper would have probably died before getting an audience for medical treatment due to lack of service.
If he survived he would be given a pain pill & told that treatment would be given to him as the limited resources allow.
We only need to see how much rich conservatives vs rich progressives give to charity to see who are the ones that would turn away the sick.
(political charity does not count)
Do you see any liberal or progressive charity?
Texmurphy51 2 weeks ago
@Texmurphy51
Bill Gates
mikkwik 2 weeks ago
@mikkwik Thats not a Charity, its Philanthropy.
Gates & Jobs were both cut throat businessmen.
What makes them Liberals?
Texmurphy51 2 weeks ago
@Texmurphy51 "Taxes are going to have to go up, and I certainly agree they should go up more on the rich than on everyone else. That's just justice. ... I don't feel people like myself are paying as much as we should." - Bill Gates, jYnjZ86UvbE
ukeuwatch 2 weeks ago
@ukeuwatch Thanks for the quote from Bill Gates but he didnt feel or act that way when he was fighting his way to the top. If you check Liberals who want the rich to pay like John Kerry, Peloci. etc ALL pay the least amount of tax possible.
Liberals want the Other Guy to pay, not them.
Besides, the combined yearly income,(100% not just tax) cannot pay off the debt that the current administration has put us in.
The only solution is to cut Gov spending.
Texmurphy51 2 weeks ago
@Texmurphy51 You are right on the ball. Liberals love to talk about their compassion for the less fortunate, but they won't tell you that YOU get to pay for it. Yes they are extremely generous with YOUR money. And oh how the less fortunate love them for it. Who do they think is going to fund their generosity after we all go broke from penalizing success and rewarding failure?
Firesprink72 1 week ago
@Firesprink72 sez of Liberals; "but they won't tell you that YOU get to pay for it."
You only need look at the demands of OWS group to see that.
The want everyone to get Free Everything, completely open borders, $20/hr min wage, Free College, etc all payed for by the Rich Fat Cats.
I dont think they realize more than 1/2 those Rich Fat Cats are in their own political party.
And they are the tightest when it comes to Charity, but give a lot of YOUR money.
Texmurphy51 1 week ago
@Texmurphy51 That's not even true at all. You think that's what "liberal" people think, and you are wrong. How would you like it if I summed up everything you stand for from only the stupidest people who align themselves with your political ideals? So then that racist dipshit who had the stuffed monkey and the idiotic sign that reads "Keep you government hands off my medicare" sums up every person who is conservative then. Knock it off.
InteGrayting2 6 days ago
@InteGrayting2 sez"You think that's what "liberal" people think, and you are wrong."
It depends on how you define it. OWS have Liberals, Progressives & Communists among them.
My blanket statement of Liberals is no worse than yours is of conservatives.
They are not all on medicare & the Gov provides it so what you said is not accurate.
Old people are voting Dem/Liberal because they fear Rep will cut the medicare.
If you doubt my OWS claims then check their original demands
Texmurphy51 4 days ago
@Texmurphy51 You are 100% right. And the Liberal politicians feed into this idea because they know that a lot of people can always be counted on to vote themselves as much "free" stuff as they can get. The politician who promises the most free shit to the most people, gets those votes, while the rest of us are stuck paying for it. Any politician who explains that this is wrong and we can't afford it, is accused of hating poor people.
Firesprink72 6 days ago
@Firesprink72 YOU don't pay for it. The top 5% of the nation pays for it and unless your making millions of dollars a year, then stop slamming liberals. You know what you do pay for? Education, health, and taxes - all of which could be lowered for you if taxes were just raised for the rich. Rich people can afford to help the poor and the middle class, but they're too greedy to do it voluntarily.
LermanProductions 5 days ago
@LermanProductions Go back to china then racist commie fuck.
DollabiIIz2 5 days ago
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@LermanProductions You just slammed your own arguement. You just said, "YOU don't pay for it. The top 5% of the nation pays for it and unless your making millions of dollars a year, then stop slamming liberals." You admit that the rich ARE not only paying their fair share, but also paying benefits to poorer people, which is a fact. But then you turned around and said that we should raise their taxes more. If we taxed them at 100%, we still couldn't pay for everything.
Firesprink72 5 days ago
@LermanProductions Furthermore, rich people DO help the poor and the middle class. They create the jobs. They invest the money that lower class people use to start or expand their own businesses. They own the stock that puts value into your 401K. Also, to a large degree, they do donate money voluntarily. People forget that the liberals in the government who demonize the rich, are rich themselves. Conservatives believe that MORE Americans shold be rich, not less.
Firesprink72 5 days ago
@Firesprink72 Stop it. Saying my buying a mansion, and a Ferrari, and staying at 5 star resorts has a trickle down effect therefore I'm helping the poor is just fucking stupid.
titans091052 4 days ago
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@titans091052 "trickle down effect therefore I'm helping the poor is just fucking stupid."
Its not what the Rich buy but what the invest in that causes the trick down effect.
The rich do not put their money in the matress but invest it in things.
Business need Venture capital to start, see Microsoft, Apple, Seagate, etc.
Those were all from Rich people.
The other system is Gov funding & thats Facism/Marxism.
Which will you choose?
Texmurphy51 23 hours ago
Fundie Christians are loud obnoxious and stupid. But, Liberal Christians dont do enough to shut them up or tell them theyre not acting decent. That is when I realize, the Liberal Christians are no better than the fundies because they cant keep their pit bulls in check. Sorry, No Christian deserves heaven.
9tailedfoxgoddess 2 weeks ago
@9tailedfoxgoddess
Liberal Christians are fucking idiots, they don't believe in anything that Christianity espouses, Christianity is just a damn club to them.
ptbwf 2 weeks ago
All you liberals should put your money where your mouth is. Health care does cost money, like it or not. If you believe that it should be free, pay your own way through medical school and become a doctor. Then buy a hospital and pay for all the expenses of running it out of your own pocket in order to provide your services for free. Some people actually do this. Its called charity. The money is given by choice, not taken by force. THAT is where you guys are wrong.
Firesprink72 2 weeks ago
The only way our healthcare can cure is because of science and research... Something conservatives discourage!
Rainbowsixoperator1 3 weeks ago
@Rainbowsixoperator1 Who ever told you that conservatives discourage science and research?
Firesprink72 2 weeks ago
@Firesprink72 You don't need to be told. It simple observation.
Rainbowsixoperator1 2 weeks ago
@Rainbowsixoperator1 It's*
Rainbowsixoperator1 2 weeks ago
@Rainbowsixoperator1 It's complete bullshit, that's what it is. It is a totally false image of conservatism that is painted by liberals and supported by the media. Great example; "everyone knows" that Pres. Bush banned stem cell research, right? Wrong! There was NEVER any ban on stem cell research, embryonic or otherwise. In fact, Bush was the first president to allocate federal money FOR embryonic stem cell research. Of course that's not the image you get from the media.
Firesprink72 2 weeks ago
@Firesprink72 as usual the conservative is totally ignorant of the facts. The Bush Administration and the dim bulb Republicans in congress banned federal funding for the use of embryonic stem cells, greatly limiting the researchable lines. Conservatives have been allied with religious nutballs ever since Reagan.
MrJimgerard 2 weeks ago
@MrJimgerard This is a side issue, I only brought it up as an example of how misreporting leads to misunderstanding. Yes, Bush did limit the researchable lines of embryonic stem cells to existing lines, as far as federal funding goes, but he allocated funds FOR those existing lines. Furthermore, there was nothing stopping anyone from doing research with any other money. It's a word game. The media purposely only reported that he "banned" the research without explaining the details.
Firesprink72 1 week ago
@Firesprink72 Uuumm, history...sure can't experiment with zygotes cus they're already people you know. The only 'research' conservatives are interested in is military related. Fuckers would rather fund a stupid stealth bomber worthless to today's war theaters than pure biology research to cure people. Wouldn't matter because the fuckers would only allow the rich to receive any new treatments.
MrJimgerard 2 weeks ago
I understand your argument that people in need of medical care can sometimes not receive that care on the basis of insurance.
I'm not arguing here, but I'd just like to point out that the opposing point of view is that that health care ideally should not be paid for with random peoples' money.
Personally, I have no clue where I stand there.
But, however, have to point out that your argument does have a slight flaw: most doctors do not have supernatural powers of healing.
SigmaMinus 3 weeks ago
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I know feeding trolls like TEHTYMEKITTEH1, so i'm not saying shit to him/her/it, but I can't resist addressing some of his craptastic statements. ie: "Liberalism doesnt work in the real world" Umm....Social Security, Medicaire, public education, job safety, food safety, public libraries, public parks, civil rights, worker rights, the middle class due to the "liberal" GI bill. I could go on but you tube has a character limit. Now think of what conservatism has brought to the US. It ain't much.
k3v1n47 3 weeks ago
Capitalism in the form of maxim profits for shareholders, no matter what has no place in healthcare. I read in the ARRP paper the other day of how the manufacturer of a drug that's at the end of the patent life is doing back channel deals with Ins Co. to get the Ins. Co. not to cover a generic versions, but cover the name brand. thus forcing patients to spend more of a co pay for Meds. Only chicken shits would dismiss that as "business"
waswestkan 4 weeks ago
Liberalism doesnt work in the real world
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 4 weeks ago
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 Because...
bdoherty44 4 weeks ago
@bdoherty44
Because you cant keep propping up the weak and not expect any negative reprocussions. You cant GIVE someone something, they have to earn it.
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 4 weeks ago
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 So people shouldn't help others?
bdoherty44 3 weeks ago
@bdoherty44
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man HOW to fish and you feed him for life. -Jesus
Liberals just want to give worthless people someone elses money so they can feel better about themselves.
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 3 weeks ago
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 What you say is not the idea of welfare, it is only what you think the idea of welfare is.
The basic concept of welfare is to give a person enough money to keep their house and basic sanitary functions until they get a job again. Unfortunately, the welfare system is extremely flawed and easy to take advantage of.
In conclusion, we are not pandering to the poor, the system is horrible. I blame the government for that.
bdoherty44 3 weeks ago
@TEHTYMEKITTEH1 What if that man is blind or has no hands? How will he fish then? Your arguement is flawed,and Jesus never existed so that automatically makes your point moot.
nowknowthis 3 weeks ago
@nowknowthis Actually, he did exist. There are records and other evidence. Of course he wasn't the son of god, but a man named Jesus did get himself crucified in 32 a.d.
bdoherty44 3 weeks ago
@bdoherty44 No. We have an unusually large vacancy of first hand accounts of jesus. There is only ONE source other then the bible from Josephus Flavius and it's written in a different style then the entire rest of that book and he wasn't alive during the time period we assume jesus was. Without that the only people who say they met jesus personally during his tend to come from the bible. It's a such a deafing silence for what the bible claims he did that it's humorous.
CarletonSaw 3 weeks ago
@bdoherty44 There's no solid evidence outside of the Bible. Furthermore, the contradiction of the timing of his birth renders Jesus's existence impossible.
TheExtremistModerate 3 weeks ago
@nowknowthis
Then we help THEM. But I do agree with you about Jesus being a myth, so calm down
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 3 weeks ago
@nowknowthis
Also, Im a conservative atheist
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 3 weeks ago
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waswestkan 4 weeks ago
If you think the American health care system is a good one, go to the CIA world factbook and sort countries by life expectancy and keep in mind that nearly every modern country has a government funded health care system (i.e., a system that is free for those who have the hardest time earning money -- the sick people). Also, for some weird reason the American system also costs nearly twice as much per capita as that of other Western countries. Maybe it's time for some serious pay cuts?
easyeasy900 1 month ago
Ha, most right wing "Christians" I know are exactly like that.
SummonedSong 1 month ago
i love having free heath care(especially when i broke my wrist)
taylan637 1 month ago
@taylan637 It's not "free". Someone paid for it.
kichigaisensei 1 month ago
@kichigaisensei the government paid for it but the important part is that it's free for the patients
taylan637 4 weeks ago
@taylan637 It's "free" at the time of service, but don't you have to pay taxes to fund the system? So, it is in fact, not "free" at all. If you're not paying tax, it means someone else is paying for you...still not "free".
kichigaisensei 4 weeks ago
@kichigaisensei Nothing is free.
But equal treatment to all, no matter what disease, doesn't that sound fair? They will never tell you, sry sir we won't treat you for that your insurance doesn't cover it.
But if you get unlucky and get cancer at least here you don't risk to have to loose your house to it.
And face it that's what it's about, the luck of the draw should never have to cost someone all that he has based on your insurance (+-= wealth). Health is a right, for all.
capusvacans 4 weeks ago
We can print more money for a public heath care system instead of for the military industrial complex, in addition to policing other countries without militaries like Japan and giving government kick backs to countries like Israel. I am sure if they are worried about their countries defense the can buy some of our military equipment and/our move their major companies over here to create more jobs in the tech industries.
AlieNation52 4 weeks ago
I think the complaint is about doctors wanting to be paid. Shame on them!!! The question facing us isn't whether people need or want care, but rather how and who is going to pay for it. It won't ever be "free"...and if no one's noticed, our country is dead broke. We can't meet the financial obligations we have right now and I'm pretty sure raising taxes in a recession is not a good idea.
kichigaisensei 1 month ago
@kichigaisensei Come to belgium, we have government funded healthcare.
And how can our government pay for it? Well they spend their money on keeping our own population healthy, not on killing the people in other countries.
Stop starting wars and you'll be able to afford decent free healthcare for all. Easy isn't it?
capusvacans 1 month ago
@capusvacans Thank you for your beautifully smug reply. I very much enjoy the superior opinions of all-knowing Europeans. Number one...where did I start any war or say I liked wars? Secondly, the FACT is that even if we cut our defence budget to zero, we would still have a deficit of half a trillion dollars a year! Guess what? That means war is not bankrupting us. Iraq and Afghanistan consumed 1% of our GDP...far less than Vietnam. The end.
kichigaisensei 1 month ago
@kichigaisensei Don't just count what the war costs, count also your whole military budget, calculations done a while ago pointed out that using 10% of the defence budget of the us on social care would be enough to bring it to European standards.
(of course you'd have to bring the wages of your medical personel back to normal lvl's, not the exagerated wages that your doctors dare charge nowadays)
capusvacans 1 month ago
@capusvacans I'd very much like to see those numbers. 10% of our military budget is roughly $80B. This is a country of 300 million people. So, your assertio is that we can provide unlimited healthcare for every American for $267/year? Not likely.
Hey, guys, how about base some of your arguments against the Amercan system on some FACTS rather than what you think you heard someone say?
kichigaisensei 4 weeks ago
ZOMG! ZOMGitsCriss is cute as a cartoon too! ;-)
jj79tr 1 month ago
not a fair comparison since it didn't cost jesus millions of dollars to perform a miracle. let me know when it stops costing hospitals money to provide health care.
aj19bcx 1 month ago
@aj19bcx Prices are waaay overinflated. I went to a hospital for a finding from an MRI (so the doctor told me to go to the hospital). It cost me 41k for a 44 hour stay. That's 1k an hour. It's not the first time I've been to the emergency room, and every other time it was also 1k an hour. CT scan is 2.5k. MRI is 5k. A pill of aspirin is 50 bucks. I went to visit Israel, where I used to live, and the Emergency room was 100 bucks an hour.
mostliberal 1 month ago
@aj19bcx It's not about money. It's about compassion. And Americans clearly don't give a shit about each other when it comes to some issues, health care being the most obvious. The U.S.A. is just not a caring society. Jesus would disapprove of that.
JRCrowley 1 month ago
I like the relaxing music, download please?
metaldorksforever666 1 month ago
i love that blonde twat
FUwogs 1 month ago
Insurance would be cheaper if we reformed our court system and especially suing, I think American issue come from the laws and loopholes in place.
mrpoghunter 1 month ago
Jesus was a socialist.
madderbass 1 month ago 30
To conservatives it's only wasting money and "big government" if you use money to help people who are struggling. Going to other countries, destroying their infrastructure and killing their citizens all in the name of "promoting democracy" or "fighting terrorism" is OK though.
LorrieFludd 1 month ago 39
@LorrieFludd one of their claims does have weight,barely.
If you are capable of supporting yourself then of course you should be expected to, however they believe that if we provide aid to those who are struggling we are "breeding dependancy" .
While it is true that if people get used to the concept of dependancy they begin to become less self sufficient, obviously the cases of severe medical conditions, unexpected job loss, lack of educational opportunities do NOT apply.
OkamsRazer 3 weeks ago
@LorrieFludd But this whole "breeding dependancy" they like to trot out is a complete figment if you temper your assistance to those who need it, and no more no less.
Capitalism is NOT the savior of mankind they like to think it is, though it does foster the idea of self sufficiency. It's ultimate motivator is self interest but in its very principle it means someone else must reduced in some way to compensate.
Socialism is NOT the boogeyman they like to pretend it is.
OkamsRazer 3 weeks ago
@LorrieFludd all for oil sadly
NightnGales 1 week ago
@LorrieFludd Well, one problem there. Conservatives by definition oppose all of that, it's just that there is no conservative party anymore, since Republican politicians decided to turn toward big government, policing the world, government-sponsored corporations, and pretending that separation of church and state isn't a thing. Please don't think ill of actual conservatives based on the actions of those dickheads claiming to represent them.
HomicidalDonut 1 week ago
Dollar Jesus
Trickishismael360 1 month ago in playlist More videos from DarkMatter2525
liberals....
libertarian atheist in the house
toSTONEiGO 1 month ago
I miss Coughlan666....
MADMANx511 1 month ago
I think America needs more private charities who will help provide a emergancy health service, which the government could give donations to. What is every one elses views?
ForeverComplaining 1 month ago in playlist DM2525
Jesus was your typical left-wing politican.
They claim to be for the poor, when they live lives of luxury. Same with the bible makers, they all had mansions and were corrupt.
Just look at the pope. His own followers are starving and he's living in a palace?!
ForeverComplaining 1 month ago in playlist DM2525
If the church did as they are supposed to be doing, then there wouldn't much need for government programs. The government should not stretch itself soooo thin. Business owners at church should find a way to hire people they are aware of that needs a job.
Obfrocker 1 month ago
I was expecting something different. On the sub of healthcare: a healthcare facility such as a hospital cannot and will not turn away someone because of financial status or lack of insurance. I work at a hospital and we have a guy right now who is homeless. Anybody who bashes capitalism is obviously somebody who has never tried to own and operate a business for a living and has always been an employee. Only good and honest business peops should stay in biz. It's a lack of understanding. B-)
Obfrocker 1 month ago
@Obfrocker this video doesn't attack hospitals, it attacks insurance companies. insurance companies can and often do turn people away. homeless people can get healthcare for free, since they don't have any income or property. but people who do have income or property risk losing all of that to debt if they go to a hospital without insurance. the homeless guy has nothing to lose, people with homes do.
Cuddlebunzzzz 1 month ago
@Cuddlebunzzzz Yeah, that makes sense. But I thought it was the current president (a socialist) that pushed a plan on us saying that we must have insurance by 2012 sometime--an insurance we will in some way or another pay for whether it be with taxes or out of pocket? I don't want insurance nor do I want to be forced to have it. I can get rid of a car--I can't get rid of my body! This whole insurance thing is frustrating. -=:-( I just wish things could as they were prebubble.
MrWIIFM 1 month ago
@MrWIIFM yea because handing a bunch of customers to PRIVATE corporations is totally socialist...
you will be forced to have insurance when you need medical attention, which will happen at some point in your life. under the current system, if you wait until you're ill to buy insurance, you can't get it because you have a pre-existing condition. so you have to get it before you get sick, or go into terrible debt if you don't get it.
Cuddlebunzzzz 1 month ago
@Cuddlebunzzzz I semi-agree with you. I think the NHS is good for emegergancies, BUT you need a strong immigration force otherwise people just come in to take advantage and also it does penalize the hard-workers who are responsible with their money and buy insurance.
NHS only benefits useless people, provides substandard services, BUT it is very good in helping people like us in emergancies, which is why I quite like it.
ForeverComplaining 1 month ago in playlist DM2525
@MrWIIFM (cont) but you could also go into terrible debt even if you do have insurance, depending on how severe your condition is. so Americans are screwed either way really. if we weren't so stubborn and ignorant and modeled our healthcare after nations that actually have working systems (socialist nations), then we wouldn't be in this mess. but there's too many people like you who think socialism is evil, so that's never going to happen and we'll be in this mess forever.
Cuddlebunzzzz 1 month ago
@MrWIIFM Na Obama isn't socialist, he's more of a social democrat. I personally detest both, as a libertarian.
BUT I think America does need some form of a NHS BUT the problem with democrats is they just want something for nothing at the expense of ordinary hard-working people. Democrats do tend to be lazy people.
ForeverComplaining 1 month ago in playlist DM2525
@ForeverComplaining yea but the rich want to pay less in taxes then what the ordinary people pay, hmmmm doesnt seem to work from the left or the right.... we are screwed
Dufoth 1 month ago 2
@Dufoth try knowing what your talking about. the rich pay the majority of taxes in this country. millionares pay millions. have you ever payed millions? because i sure havent. if you'd like you can pay the same amount of money as they do! would that be more fair for you? the problem with this country, is people are morons and have no clue how things work.
Xhamburgler 1 month ago
@Dufoth Most of the rich don't even pay tax and what's even more scarier is I found, in the UK and this probably applies to the USA aswell, that the tax ordinary people avoid is more money than what the rich avoid.
I personally detest high taxation but I do think we need strict regulations to make sure EVERYone pays tax, I find it disgusting how people don't, when they are using the roads, the police, fire brigade etc.
ForeverComplaining 1 month ago
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@Dufoth Most of the rich don't even pay tax and what's even more scarier is I found, in the UK and this probably applies to the USA aswell, that the tax ordinary people avoid is more money than what the rich avoid.
I personally detest high taxation but I do think we need strict regulations to make sure EVERYone pays tax, I find it disgusting how people don't, when they are using the roads, the police, fire brigade etc.
ForeverComplaining 1 month ago
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@Dufoth Most of the rich don't even pay tax and what's even more scarier is I found, in the UK and this probably applies to the USA aswell, that the tax ordinary people avoid is more money than what the rich avoid.
I personally detest high taxation but I do think we need strict regulations to make sure EVERYone pays tax, I find it disgusting how people don't, when they are using the roads, the police, fire brigade etc.
ForeverComplaining 1 month ago
Genius. I love these group projects.
BrodieThePrettyGood 1 month ago
Watch Al Franken's classic "Supply Side Jesus" for more along this vein.
MarkRosengarten 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012- because he had nothing to do with this.
Trolling4RonPaul2012 1 month ago
yeah this is some political propraganda bullshit
ranondo92 1 month ago
Jesus was conservative because many conservative beliefs come from the bible. Our stance on abortion and gay marriage come from the bible. Also didnt jesus free those poor people from tyranny communism and big government. I believe god is smiling at modern conservatives.
PS If your rich congrats you earned it through hard work, and if your poor you shouldve worked harder in school
humancasino 1 month ago
@humancasino Matthew 19:24 - "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Luke 6:20-21. "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours in the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who hunger now, for you shall be satisfied." Jesus's teachings clearly favored the poor over the rich. How can you say that Jesus was conservative, when today's economic conservatives antagonize the poor. I'd really like to hear your argument.
chris7394123 1 month ago
@humancasino Actually the first christians were kinda communists, they lived in communities where everything belonged to everyone (Many of this communities were founded by the apostles after jesus's death), also jesus always talked against wealth and there was this time (Matthew 19:16-24) where he told a rich guy that if he wanted to go to heaven he had to give his wealth to the poor (Do I smell socialism?).
AquilaSaetos 1 month ago
@humancasino yes absolutely, i should have let my mother and autistic sister be homeless and just went to college instead of working because that wouldve solved all of her problems. But i guess its her fault for working her whole life to support me, then pinching a nerve in her back AT WORK. Not to mention her brain tumor- guess that's her fault too. .... she was the hardest working person ive ever seen now she is disabled and uninsured and unable to draw disability.
Serpentofthegarden 1 month ago
@humancasino I really hope you're joking. Matthew 21:12 "Then Jesus went into the temple, threw out everyone who was selling and buying in the temple, and overturned the moneychangers' tables and the chairs of those who sold doves." Matthew 19:21 "Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" And abortion is never mentioned in the Bible. Here's proof: twitpic(dot)com/6ivafq
rbshow211 1 month ago
i used to worry about atheism the incresing of them but since they never do anything they will never amount to nothing ,,,at the end they will be persecute by the antichrist a fellloow with very powerful religious tendendies..and by the way i worry more about those crazy religious extremist..not atheist..
mendezfocus 1 month ago
@HelFKiernan You should take note that for whatever reason starvation is included in the malnutrition statistic (while it's technically true, it's extremely misleading). I ran across that tidbit ironically when I was trying to find statistics for starvation on a worldwide scale. However, the homeless in America still die due to many other preventable conditions, so my original point still stands.
misschloe3353 1 month ago
Yup. This is what conservatives are. If you got money, you're good. If you have none. F*ck you, you're a leach
Awesomeduud 1 month ago 15
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SwollenCranium 1 month ago
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God you liberals REALLY are fucking stupid
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 4 weeks ago
you can be a atheist and still be conservative
FloridaRaider 1 month ago 4
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I need help to translate into Portuguese. My english isn't good, so if someone put subtitles in english for me by email, I'll be glad. My english reading is better than hearing. I'm trying to comunicate with Darkmatter2525 but he does not answer. Thanks, guys. (quote this, so I can send you my email)
reiherallendimarx 2 months ago
i didnt get the video probably because i dont know what a right wing conservative is
azur0x 2 months ago in playlist Atheistic Animations
"I hope you didn't take it personally, preacher," an embarrassed woman said after a church service, "when my husband walked out during your sermon."
"I did find it rather disconcerting," the Pastor replied.
"It wasn't out of any disrespect to you," insisted the church-goer.
"Fred has been walking in his sleep ever since he was a child."
ComedianFromNASA 2 months ago 4
you demrcoatic peice of shit
bigbaddeerhunter 2 months ago
fix his manky foot you son of a bitch! hahahah
me25422 2 months ago
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I'm very confused as to why Noah was DRUNK? (Gen 9:21) and why did Noah get mad at his son Ham simply because Ham saw Noah DRUNK and NAKED? (Gen 9:22) And why did Noah CURSE "Canaan"? (Gen 9:25 - that makes absolutely NO sense!). Canaan did absolutely nothing WRONG. The only thing that even happened was NOAH got DRUNK and NAKED and Ham happened to SEE him, SO WHAT? Why is God allowing Noah to place a CURSE on someone??
Godlovesallpeople 2 months ago
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83% of conservatives are devout Christians. Can you believe these right wing conservative nut jobs claiming Jesus as their own? That's so ass backwards, like gays voting for Rick Perry. Or Jews worshiping Hitler. Totally contradicting ideologies!!! You only have to look at a republican debate to see how stupid these people are. It's just troubling that they represent HALF a nation!! This doesnt make sense. Someone please explain!!
3dwardcullen69 2 months ago
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83% of conservatives are devout Christians. Can you believe these right wing conservative nut jobs claiming Jesus as their own? That's so ass backwards, like gays voting for Rick Perry. Or Jews worshiping Hitler. Totally contradicting ideologies!!! You only have to look at a republican debate to see how stupid these people are. It's just troubling that they represent HALF a nation!! This doesnt make sense. Someone please explain!!
3dwardcullen69 2 months ago
83% of conservatives are devout Christians. Can you believe these right wing conservative nut jobs claiming Jesus as their own? That's so ass backwards, like gays voting for Rick Perry. Or Jews worshiping Hitler. Totally contradicting ideologies!!! You only have to look at a republican debate to see how stupid these people are. It's just troubling that they represent HALF a nation!! This doesnt make sense. Someone please explain!!
3dwardcullen69 2 months ago 2
@3dwardcullen69 Look what samster817 wrote. That about explains it.
Everyone in my family is like him. I'm not like him. I am the only one in my family with a college degree. It comes down to a few things: compassion, IQ and level of education.
Americans tend to not be very compassionate. I'm fairly certain the IQ level follows the bell curve as it does everywhere else. The part where things break down is a good education. Americans don't need no stinkin' education. :D
AtheistinFundyLand 2 months ago
@AtheistinFundyLand someones beliefs has nothing to do with their education or IQ, show me what proof you have of this. your argument is based on the assumption that your beliefs are right and any that contradict them are wrong. sorry but circular reasoning will get you NO WHERE with those smart enough to notice it. you honestly dont know how good even homeless people have it in the US. their wealthy compared to most.
samster817 2 months ago
@samster817 Incorrect, heavy religion will always have an effect on your intelligence, which is why you will never see a fundamentalist with a credible degree in anything other than religious studies like divinity or religious education.
misschloe3353 2 months ago
@samster817 I don't know what homeless people you know, but they certainly do not have it great. Someone starving to death in America is no different than someone starving to death somewhere else. While Americans do have more access to food, eating is not a right in the US, and there is no guarantee that they will get it. No one gets benefits, like food stamps, in America without a valid address.
misschloe3353 2 months ago
@samster817 Yeah, Yeah. Comparing the standard of living in the USA to that of Africa or southeast Asia is like taking a healthy high school kid, and having them compete in Special Olympics. Of course they'll come out ahead! Yes, USA comes out ahead when comparing them to 3rd world hell holes, but what about OTHER first world countries? Scandinavian countries have a much higher standard of living than the USA does for example, as well as other west Euro countries.
gwenshin 2 months ago
I'd really like to know where the arabic sounding music from 0:49 is from. It sounds kinda familiar, like I've heard it before in a videogame or something?
abovo77 2 months ago
LOL 20 years to old dprjones
Frances3654 2 months ago
I never realized what a dick Jesus was.
SternMann93 2 months ago
@MrArpas123 Heres the issue I have with the whole "earth 6000 years old" thing. the first empire to ever exist existed around 4000 BCE. since you need the knowledge of farming to be able to even grow a population big enough to be considered an "empire" that would mean that somehow these cities popped into existence same day as the supposed creation, with a large enough population to maintain them while God was busy with the "only two humans" on the planet. You derped again creationist.
kuroyama1 2 months ago
<3 living in Europe.
That's all.
Picasso43967 2 months ago 103
@Picasso43967 DON'T love living in USA. I have health issues that aren't being addressed.
AtheistinFundyLand 2 months ago
@AtheistinFundyLand
Well. Sorry to hear that.
I remember having huge issues with my ears to the point I had a fever from it when I was younger. Medicine from the family doctor didn't do the job. She took the phone, called the universal hospital(part of a university) and the next day I was sitting next to a specialist, the day after his medicine started working. And all that basically free of costs.
I guess every country has it's issues. But healthcare over here ain't one of them.
Picasso43967 2 months ago
@Picasso43967 I SO approve this message!
stuchly1 2 months ago in playlist Atheistic Animations
@Picasso43967 Please come over here and say "Come with me if you want to live!" so I can say "Yes".
dab0r 2 months ago
@Picasso43967 hmm why ^ ^
jubinjibin 1 month ago
lol, the bible makes it clear that its the CHURCHES job to take care of the poor, and the sick are covered by insurance. so boooo hoooo, conservatives make you work for your own money, you poor neglected people, having to actually GET A JOB and stop WHORING off of other peoples money. man i wish i was in another country where people cant even get jobs and every body starves and dies of sickness instead of AMERICA. work for your own money you lazy whores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
samster817 2 months ago
@samster817 18000 people per year die in the US because of no insurance. No 1st world country scores as low on the US in health care ratings. Please, please, if the churches are taking care of people, then WHY are 18000 dying?
DarkSunGod 2 months ago 2
@DarkSunGod haha, i said that is IS the churches job, but in order to really help they would need to be a part of the government, and also would need to get their backbone back. right now the churches are push overs. one wise man said to keep the government out of the church, but NOT the church out of the government. all the church is able to do now is mere charity work.
samster817 2 months ago
@samster817 Can't tell if troll or stupid.
nkelly1432 2 months ago 5
@nkelly1432 believe me i know enough to extract the information in this stupid unhelpful comment that serves no help in contributing to the argument that you are most definitley both of the below.(in case your to stupid to know where below you can find what you are, im referring to your own comment)
samster817 2 months ago
@samster817 You're grammar is atrocious.
nkelly1432 2 months ago
@nkelly1432 LOL, for one, im 15, im used to shortening it down, and second, im not gonna waist my time making my grammar look pretty for someone i dont even know. i can type however i damn want to and theres not a damn thing you evolutards can do about it, then again you could make another red-herring just like this one.
samster817 2 months ago
@nkelly1432 Agree completely
MrVegemitesandwich 2 months ago
@samster817
"Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" Matthew 19:21
Something tells me Jesus would have never said, "work for your own money you lazy whores!!!" not everybody who struggles economically is in such a situation because he or she is lazy. But I understand. We have more vital things to spend tax dollars on; like the death penalty.
Fucking bible thumpers...
roswalt44 2 months ago 57
@roswalt44 actually in the Bible it says the CHURCH is in charge of taking care of the poor and needy. in mathew 19:21,jesus issues a stern challenge designed to show the man that he has not observed the spirit of the commandments, in spite of his claim(v.20). in fact,his selfish attitude in making an idol of wealth reveals that he had broken the very first commandment(Ex. 20:3).all you did my friend was take this verse out of context.
samster817 2 months ago
@samster817 Did your parents ever teach you to question authority? The motivations or the leaders of organized religions?
nkelly1432 2 months ago
@samster817 The bible also says when the church is done "helping" that person can be indentured to them as a slave to repay their debt and their children will be property of their new owner! Everbody wins!
SuperGil420 2 months ago
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HyperSchmizzle 1 month ago
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@roswalt44 If Jesus appeared and said that, the people in this video would tell him to get a haircut and find a job.
HyperSchmizzle 1 month ago
@roswalt44 ,