Leo Zagami - Trained Infiltrator

[MegaPoone]

if leo zagami was so high up the illuminati order and he defected, he should have been dead a long time ago.

[CY0PS]

this interview is his story however he misinterprets his own facts based on his own perceptions..the truth movement is a joke until YOU realize YOU have to make YOUR OWN discernment and there is no base line reality or one reality tunnel as R. A . Wilson said..All you have is your own experience and YOUR story..I dont think he was lying in this interview anymore than most people would expound when telling a far out tale...NO PLANE THEORY ....Steven King killed John Lennon

[mp4ever31]

i knew it!

[Flerg3]

this guy is full of shit

[redletterchurch]

Zagami seems to be a very knowledgeable and very conflicted person. I listen closely to him - but I don't trust him. He seems to have been involved in some very dark things (including possession). He seems to want to do the right thing - but he may be in too deep to really get away. There is an interesting discussion between Zagami and Eric Phelps on either Google or You Tube. I certainly wouldn't become a follower of anyone. Seeking the truth is an ongoing and thankless struggle. Good luck!

[goscott4]

REV 18:21

[IlluminatiSensor]

Check out Leo Zagami shape shifting in the most recent upload on my channel

[ThePointfighter]

the sad part is that a man that is clearly suffering from a form of schizophrenia that needs to be treated clynically is causing so much confusion

[zeineguy]

@ThePointfighter that is what they want him to do.. put out "secret" information that we half believed before he came on the scene, which will give false proof. From what I have seen on the videos i have watched, he has TOO much information or beliefs to know as much as he is supposed to know. Which means he may have some truths and then bullshits his way thru other things that he does not know. If he has been "out" for this long, then he has no inside info on Obama, unless he is being train

[hallmonitor98]

Project Camelot is a exposing these people from the underground right infront of the C.I.A. Leo Zagami fell of the radar soon after the Camelot review. Project Camelot was a government social science research project. Anyone ever ask that Jew lady where the name of her channel came from...........

[MarySuicide93]

man this dude is no way near any illuminatie or freemasonary this kind of info he is giving for free is actually free for all to know because they dont give a shit anymore they have got what they wanted....but arrogance and ignorance is the mans best friend!!!!AND his downfall!!!

[MarySuicide93]

i would say that leo is talking a pile of shit and this man is on some serious drugs and mind fuck programm...someone has to put a muzzle on this mad dog spreading information coverd in disinformation so watch for this pyscho!!!!!

[Zzozze]

Ok, good. And what does he infiltrate?

[zeineguy]

@Zzozze He is infiltrating the truth movement. you see how many people watch what this man says? not just from PC but other videos that are posted with people interviewing him. If he really had soo much secret information, why is he not on the larger scale media? they want him to bring out some truths and lots of bullshit that just confuses those that really WANT to believe in a conspiracy. and then use this guy as fact. you ever meet a guy that believes everything he says even when he lies

[Zzozze]

@zeineguy "bring out some truths and lots of bullshit that just confuses those that really WANT to believe in a conspiracy"

You may be right. he disclosed lots of valuable informations on the freemasonries, and spoke some BS beside of it, I don't know if he does it on purpose or if he's somewhat confused himself...

Anyway, most of the people NEED to believe in something: they are easy to feed with anything that tastes to them.

[zeineguy]

@Zzozze I agree, and again where is the HARD proof? I have met many bullshitters in my life and I can spot them almost instantly. Even though they truly believe in what they say.. they dont know what is truth and what is in their head as they think is truth. True bullshitters, ussually raise their voices and become aggressive when challenged, hoping the other person will back down or change the subject as to not cause a scene. I have yet to see documents posted online he is from royalty too.

[frogshine]

Zecherian Sitchin is a Lizard. lol

[klauwn17]

they always destroy the public image of people standing up for truth.

so generally I say: every source talking about the agenda of the order without mentioning the luciferian worship and the undeniable existence of god is a disinformationist.

all this new age crap that tells people they're gods and so on, that is controlled opposition.

[klauwn17]

you know it doesn't really matter what he said in the interview with project camelot, because there is truth in there and maybe some disinformation.

but there is a lot - heeeeeps of evidence to support the esoteric agenda theory of the illuminati. there are satanic messages in music, tv, hollywood everywhere.

I personally would be more careful with project camelot and all the freaks they're interviewing.

so zagami was discredited several times.

truth is always handeled like this.

[unbiased000]

dr alberto rivera was also a trianed infiltrator. and he also switched religions (from catholicism to...christianity lol) does that make him a shill as well?

[sckryde]

i knew a guy who would grab his balls when he was nervous..

does that mean he was a jerking off?

my point being that not every thing is what we perceive.

[sckryde]

maybe he really is a defector..

[intrarepeusadinspate]

He's lying; i kept on observing his body language during the Project Camelot interview...till i got bored.

[ghostdk]

what a joke

[Milo95]

You cannot base your conclusion on some phrases extracted from what was the worst interview PC did! This guy has some much infos with plenty of details to share, you could listen to him for ages and learn. I do not agree with you on this 'infiltration scenario' my friend. You guys should just accept that some truthers chose to become muslims because of what has happened to the (real) christinannity when romans manipulated it. Hopefully, truth is in both of them.

[bellyoffire]

lol Milo. Right, hes not an infiltrator. He converted to Islam from Christianity because Christianity was corrupt and pagan. Then he converted back to Christianity because Islam is corrupt.

And we are suppose to believe you and follow this guy?

Lets see, now he is Jesus Christ and is 2000 years old.

Haha, what a joke and you got duped. I warned people all a long and now look at what is going on.

[Milo95]

Belly, as far as I know, he's still a muslim. I'm not here to defend him, but when you accuse someone for being an infiltrator, you have to give some pieces of evidence my friend. From what you suggest in this video, this remains hypothesis, nothing else. While he's got plenty of proof item in his various interviews, you have nothing but sarcasm (not sure for this word in english).

Please, stop being ironic, and give us some concrete sourced facts. Hopefully, we're all seeking truth here.

[bellyoffire]

You think he is still a Muslim, so you are way behind in the the times. It was over a year ago he said he is a Christian.

Its all over for Zagami. He has been outted as CIA disinfo agent.

To bad for you, you believe what you see online.

[Milo95]

Could you please provide the video/article/source where he reveals this ? I'm really interested in seeing this, specially for year old info. As long as you stick to facts, I'm ok to change my opinion about Zagami. This is far from being the case in the current vid my friend :-)

[fucknuaf]

I would like to see some kind of evidence that he is working for the CIA. If the evidence is Leo's statements, then I'll assume it is a lie. That guy is off his fucking trolley, obviously bonafide insane and a patheological liar.

[zeineguy]

@Milo95 I dont understand where everyone is saying that he has "proof" ?? Just saying it is not proof. I have yet to see anything that is proof in what he says. to me PROOF is hard facts, documents, fotos, etc We have just seen this last year or two with the USA still having Russian spies embedded, and now exposed. You dont think they were living a double life? in this video, you can see where he is lying. when the camerawoman is questioning him.. his reaction is clinical lying.

[unbiased000]

but this video represents more of the error of criticism of him. i mean, OOO. whats funny is thatthis segment did somethiing the truth movement needed. to stop believing in this planet nibiru myth from the vatican. exposing him for that? honestly i was a nibiru dude until i heard this, then i considered it, cuz i wouldnt have maybe, and found mor info that nibiru is bullshit scare politics! does it mean i have to champion for zagam? people are paranoid. i dont fear the misinfo cuz i trust myself

[unbiased000]

...is my only concern. not picking sides lol. this video says that leo was able to go into a high office; the monte carlo lodge. yes that is true. but this video the high office in question (and stated) is a VATICAN office. and its not like things couldnt change. and it says leo changed the subject, lol, KERRY changed the subject and interupted him (like she allways does her guests lol)

if you want real things of concern for zagami you need other things. they are there. he claimed 911!

[KilshawInt]

Leo Zagami is the coolest guy ever.

[waketheoblivious]

My point is for anyone to defect beyond converting and becoming born again Christian what is left? Given what is already known there's plenty of documented evidence of what has taken place and what the goal is for the future. NAU/Amero is the capstone event. The three Nation States of British Crown, Washington DC and Rome control world bank, control most world leaders and are driving towards a single currency & NWO. What difference does it make whether Leo Zagami tells the truth or lies?

[bellyoffire]

You tell me. Your the one who is out to prove he is something. So if you think it doesn't make a difference then what is your point of defending him.

[waketheoblivious]

The point I'm making is we know our enemy are Satanists, hate God, hate humanity especially Judeo Christian One God religions which includes Muslims. We are still One Nation, Under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for all. They have conviction in what they believe, seems essential we have an equal or greater conviction in what we believe. I'll support anyone who is not on their side.

[bellyoffire]

And you know Leo is not on their side how?

[waketheoblivious]

Leo Zagami was a Grand Master, He is well aware of the danger of defecting. John Todd, defected and was a member of the Council of Thirteen. He was framed, imprisoned and hasn't been heard from since. William Cooper, was murdered at home in Eagar AZ by Federal Agents & local police. Chip Young, CIA operative defected and was found on a beach murdered. Leo Zagami, John Todd,William Cooper & Chip Young, are 4 courageous men who have consciously risked/lost their lives to expose Evil Traitors."

[bellyoffire]

LoL, I can't believe you just compared Leo Zagami to John Todd & Bill Cooper. Leo is a fraud.

[waketheoblivious]

The attempt was to discredit John Todd, largely successful before he disappeared. Also, made Chip Young & Bill Cooper disappear. Leo Zagami was the poster child for the tall dark & Satanic. They didn't pin a rape on him or tax evasion, but he's been discredited. Cooper mostly financed his own presentation. Chip Young, John Todd, Leo Zagami exit & experience the consequences of cold hard reality. Sheeple aren't much different then what they left, heartless. No job, no income, no more info., die.

[bellyoffire]

Leo is nothing. Thats it. Stop it with your BS.

[waketheoblivious]

Actions speak louder then words. My guess is since he defected, no truth organization or individual, no Christian organization or individual has done anything more for Leo Zagami then ask him for information. The rest of the non-illumanati sit back anxious to discredit. A lot like the crowd wanting to stone to death Mary Magdeline. Killing someone in some sick effort to gain God's favor? I can't throw stones though, because I'm as guilty of the next guy, I only financially supported Cooper.

[bellyoffire]

Lol, now Leo is like Mary? I feel sorry for you. If you listened to cooper, you should have learned enough to know when someone is a fraud.

[unbiased000]

wake, do you think zagami is an inflitrator?

[waketheoblivious]

Hard decision when I think of Leo Zagami situation. Has distinct similarities to John Todd

story. The Non-Satanic verses the Satanic are probably reasonable categories to define the two opposing sides. When Leo or anyone defects, what is the Non-Satanic side, typical response? Put them on the talk show circuit and suck them dry of information. Meanwhile, subject them to constant criticism. They have left their friends, family and income source to be treated worse then what they left. Cont..

[waketheoblivious]

I recognize the potential danger, but we lost a great deal more then getting tricked by a traitor. We have created an identity, of an option less forgiving then a Satanist. Who on God's green earth, wants to go from the frying pan, in to the fire, so to speak.  Biblically, I imagine their are ample references towards love they neighbor and forgiveness. I don't have a lot of money or luxurious lifestyle, but if I did, John Todd would have been Director of a retreat, where Leo could be staying

[unbiased000]

hmm interesting point. the internet crowd has a double edged sword to their vigilance for spotting infiltrators. on one hand this field is flooded with them (shills) but on the other hand it doesnt justify the witch hunt ignorant behavior. we are all humans, illuminati or not. one thing about zagami thoguh is that he doesnt seem to be lying or cuaght lying. he is just saying things that people dont like. he is pushing the jesus is horus thing, and people dont like that. but attacking is childis

[unbiased000]

lol so youd let leo stay at your retreat lol. dont let bellyfire to hear that, hell think you are a jesuit coadjutotoar and block you lol.

i mean infiltration implies deceit, i dont see any pointed out in this video. if you dont like zagamis message then maybe call it new age lol. but lying? infiltrating? i think more proof then this video is required. this vid is from a misunderstanding. to say this maybe belly would think i am supporting leo...when im only trying to correct error. TRUTH...

[waketheoblivious]

Keep you friends close and your enemies closer? lol. Think you understand the turmoil I wrestle with concerning any so-called defector. Were kinda stuck like Chuck, one thing we lack on the non-Satanic side is money. They have a lot of that and control Governments. Any attempt to try to deal with defectors probably be considered anti something and labeled a terrorist group. Just trying to help someone break out of Witchcraft, Satanic Cult, Secret Society or anything related to the Illumanati.

[waketheoblivious]

unbiased000, I just realized you may not have seen the latest greatest on Leo Zagami - Fulford verses Illumanati

[unbiased000]

yeah wake, im the one who sent YOU that video lol...

[noworldorder555]

He's a wanna be... He invited me to join his 'Committee of Hope'. I declined as: A. He was asking for money and B. 'Hope' is a 'Negative' word as it suggests there's a chance WE lose.

He's on e-bay selling a dinner like he's FAMOUS. This 'ego' has some great insight but he's MENTALLY UNSTABLE.

As for trading 'RELIGIONS' sure they're ALL 'MIND CONTROL'. NO ONE NEEDS A MIDDLE-MAN TO LIAISE WITH GOD. That's why the Templars burned the Cathers ALIVE. They were Gnostics & 'Heretics' of course.

[bellyoffire]

LoL, what words of knowledge your drop here. If he is grandmaster of the illuminati, why does he need money? If he has all this money in "his lodge" (monte carlo p2), then why does he get people to work for free (like his webmaster who is unsure if he is a fake or real because of me). Haha.

[flax83]

E i sottotitoli in italiano? Chi è quel pezzo di idiota che gli ha disattivati!?

[holidayfish]

oh yeah, you cant rule anything out. i just think this person hs invested too much into this seemingly small point, their was after all a perfectly good rape-chance when leo put off answering how he got out of his arrest the 3rd time and how when he does answer he looked down slightly left but he wasnt looking down at the 3rd camera which sugest he was(to a degree) lieing/witholding info. but i cant see the illuminati using someone incompitent as a gatekeper, it would only raise more questions.

[bellyoffire]

I agree with you. I've mentioned in other places that he seems to avoid questions. i havent figured it out yet. Either this guy is a complete fraud and faking the whole thing and is either an idiot or playing one, or he is working for someone and is or playing a stupid idiot. I have a very hard time believing he is who he says he is. I can't believe so many people have fallen for his bullshit.

[holidayfish]

im glad that you agree, but i'll have to disagre lol.

he only avoids a few questions, but in freestanding they dont matter.

and i wouldnt call him an idiot, far to inteligent, which is why i think he would be a poor chose as a gatekeeper, - inteligent man who cant lie - why not just employ an entire faction of them and flood the market? no, THIS argument right here is more flawed than his entire libuary of info, which i have been checking and what i can find is proven.

[holidayfish]

still, i dont trust him but i will listen, if nothing else, he does futher prove their are seceret orgs which sadly noone hooked on the mainstream news actualy belives,... because X-factor and Fox News is always close to reality...

[bellyoffire]

the reason i say he is an idiot because I listened to a bunch of talks he did with Phil. When you listen to those, it makes you wonder if it is all a show he puts one for these other people. Its not the same intelligent man, he acts like a complete fool.

[vvrvladd]

so is it Jesuits or Zionists?

[bellyoffire]

I dont know what you are talking about.

[holidayfish]

this argument is flawd, why would he openly admit he was asked to infiltrate his wifes org, why not lie like every other TRAINED INFILTRATER/SPY and say his WIFE was asked to infiltrate her org?

dont drink so much coffee

[bellyoffire]

You ask him why he openly admitted it. Maybe its all part of a game that he is playing on people.

[TheHidden63]

This guys is a blood sucking leach hes shall i say 'Contaminating/fabricating' the truth..!Hey people like us ARE standing against them and gaining Info/knowledge about them very quickly it streets, Msn, Skype, Online Links, E-mails, YOUTUBE, Mobile phones all over the 'Media' something they own!Imagine a group of people 'perfecting' something for more then 900 years and in its final stages their prey(US)waking up--Desperate measure calls for desperate situations man!Hes their Con Artist!!!

[zsushbear]

After doing more indepth research since my last comment, I am in total agreement with you.

He exposed himself simply by talking too much.

He is in the USA now I believe.

[bellyoffire]

Can you share the research? Either send it to me or make a video of it? I totally agree. The more he talks, the more he exposes himself. If you listen to everything closely, its not difficult to hear.

He was planning on being here starting in September. He was/is suppose to confront Pat Robertson.

[IRSFRAUDEXPOSED]

give me a break

[GoodMeBad]

of course he is illuminati still he just got promoted! how dumb are some people? seriously guys wake up!

[abbasar1984]

this clip is BS. watch then full interview and ull understand what he is saying. we was at that time working with the illuminati. but then he married his muslim wife which he had to convert. and later he stopped working with them. he said it himself, ppl are accusing him as a dis info, to spread a conspiracy and still live the agenda. the guy is seeking earssss. open ur eyez u dumb fucks

[bellyoffire]

He didn't have to convert. Why did he have to? Because he wanted to marry a muslim? As he says himself, they didn't keep their word/agreement, so he left Islam and went back to Christianity. He said he stopped working with them, now he is saying he is back with them. Open your eyes idiot. Not our fault you are easily conned.

[abbasar1984]

ill consider u another schmuck who falls for this again.islamic law states that in order to marry a muslim women,u have to convert to islam.2nd,he wants to go back to christianity,as of now he is still a muslim(go research u moron before u spread lies).he worked for the illuminati and rebelled a couple of times,but at the end he stopped cuz they asked him to interfere in his wifes islamic organization & spread all the evil agenda which he rejected.ppl like u are the victims of nwo.plz dont breed

[bellyoffire]

I'm a moron? He wants 2 go back 2 Christianity? Thats not what he says. He says he is not Muslim, he is a Christian. & that they failed 2 meet their agreement, so he returned 2 Christianity. Weird though, he said Christianity was corrupt & pagan & Islam was the true way. Now he says Islam is corrupt & not the true way. I have to say you are the moron for defending a liar that cant get his story straight. I don't mind people expressing their opinions, but your a stupid slave & need 2 b banned.

[dodoshlodo]

yes u are a moron, watch the fuking interview

[bellyoffire]

I watched the video dodo brain.

[gemmindownin]

which country are you from?

[zsushbear]

Well spotted. Thanks for posting.

[bebop54]

the hospital was in norway ..

also , many of the lodges he mentions are just made up ....

the RGLE is not recognized by the UGLE ( real lodge )

if you go to the UGLE site , you can get info' & names & addresses of all members and even email them .....

there is no way that poor LZ could possibly be "the prince" to take over from licio gelli ....

this is a floor rollin' gut -bustin' laugh ...

LZ'S accent is not real & he is not italian ..

.hope this helps a little & is not redundant .....

[bellyoffire]

I got a new break. The lodge is suppose to be in a Kansas City Hotel. That narrows it down....I don't believe it. What did he do, have 1 meeting when he was in KC?

[bebop54]

they are settin' up phoney lodges with similar names to real ones ...

for example the RGLE sounds similar to the UGLE..

it's very confusing ..

if you contact a 'legit' lodge , it will be easy to find out which lodges are 'recognized' by the order of the brotherhood of masons ...

the term 'grandmaster of the illuminati ' that he uses is another joke ...

the word 'illuminati means nothing ...

in this vid' alone is euf proof for anyone ..

[bebop54]

if you notice at the 5: oo mark he states that he was " locked up , tortured . & injected" and had to " repent" in order to be released ...correct ?

that doesn't appear to be a person with any power at all ..

certainly not a 'grandmaster' of anything ....

really it's a laughable charade ..

i'm amazed that anyone would take him seriously .

i think it's obvious in this interview that kerry does not believe him ..

did you get the last interview from their site ?

his accent is atrocious ...lol

[bebop54]

in freemasonry the term is 'worshipful master ' .

not grandmaster ...

notice he makes a point to discredit the true italian researchers .....

no one has asked to see his passport ..

such a simple solution ..

and if he were truly sincere , he would have shown it already .... where is his aristocratic family ?

did everyone abandon him ?

wife ? mother ? father ? ...friends ? where are his friends ? ..very odd ....

[bebop54]

ok belly ' ...go to the main page of projectcamelot ...on the left side under the heading

" WHAT'S NEW ON OUR SITE' ...

date july 9th.. they have different names posted ...

scroll down to LZ ....

i think this interview is QUITE clear ...

also this vid' that you posted says he was imprisoned ..but it seems that he was committed in 2003 for outrageous claims & threats ....the name of the hospital is in a link of those vid's by 'joeblow ...

[bellyoffire]

Im lost. You said go to the left side, date july 9th. There isn't anything about LZ on 7/9.

[bebop54]

on the left side of the page 'what's new on our site'

click on july 9 update ..

there are a list of names with synopsis , update & opinion on each ....

LZ is toward the bottom of the list ....

scroll all the way down to his name ..

the synopsis has a link to the last interview .....

[bellyoffire]

I got it that time!

[bebop54]

great !!! ...you probably heard the interview already but i think it's especially indicative of his mental ability ..

[joopq]

im tired of all the lame excuses, "fine dont believe me" "you should have found out allready hes a fraud" if everytime i try to find out if hes a fraud the people saying they know he is, cant provide shit to back it up...then how are you surprised? do you think im dumb or something? if you he IS a fraud (or whatever) instead of saying i THINK he is etc, then you are making a claim. if you cant back a claim up, then you're FULL OF SHIT. no offense but wake the fuck up or stop playin dumb

[bellyoffire]

I'm tired of your BS. I'm blocking you. I answer your questions and nothing is good enough and you don't acknowledge my answers. Go bother someone else with your crap.

[bebop54]

joo' is a tough cookie ....lol

[bebop54]

belly ' ...where are you ?

[bellyoffire]

What do you mean?

[bebop54]

ah ! there you are ...

we were talkin' about you ...

joo' said you " need help " so here i am ...lmao

i can't stand LZ ....

he's a megalomaniacal psychopath ...

[bebop54]

the lodges 'leo the lyin' mentions are not recognized by freemasonry ..

they are 'created' lodges ..

let's play dress-up !!!.....

phoney doc's and paraphenalia can be purchased on any online masonic supply ...

a con man named rui gabirro created the phony lodges ...

freemasonry is not secret & anyone can go to a REAL lodge ....

non masons are welcome to visit and debate ... so let's cut all the phoney mysticism...

we got enough prob's already without adding megalomaniacal psycho fantasies ....

[joopq]

this vids main points: starts out accusing him withouth evidence. "is this why hes christian again?"/no answer. (strike one) he admits to infiltration work/nothing new or significant. says he was in a high up office march/asked belly he says he doesnt really know this. hes beat so its like illuminati toruture/dont see the link or why it matters. left 3 times/so what?! "yup, illum torutre"/ how does this say that?! and what would be the point? ends with a decent q, but NO answer and makes claim

[bellyoffire]

I need your investigative skills here. Leo continues to claim that anyone can join his new lodges in the US. He says he established Liberty Lodge #1 in Kansas city. What is the address to this lodge?

[joopq]

wow

[joopq]

you answer my many questions with a question of your own, thats way off topic? what is this high office that he visited in march-april 2008 as you claim? you know, the claim in this vid that supposedly proves he is contradicting himself. and what about my analysis of this vid, no response? i make some heavy claims myself, but about this vid.

[bebop54]

belly , i love how LZ explains his escape 3 x hahaaa....funny

[bebop54]

it is leo who is on the smear campaign ..

in this clip alone he slanders his wife ...

luca santamburlo ....barbato ....

in others he slanders alberto rivera..

he is an idiot & a fraud & YES you DO have some issues if you are still investigating him & not dealing with the crucial issues at hand ....

it's gettin' childish ...

[joopq]

whats childish is to make claims and expect me to accept them without being substantiated or even explained where you got this info from. im not in the game of blind trust. mistakes happen people lie, people have different interpretations of info etc. if you make a claim then back it up. and dont expect people to have come accross all the same info as you.

[bellyoffire]

You don't have to believe anything I say. I really don't care if you do. Once again you talk about blind trust. I never tell you to trust what I say but you continue to suggest and at time say that I say this. If you really did do real research, you would find out that Leo is a phony. I haven't even gone that far yet to say that.

[bellyoffire]

I added the link to the illuminati programming and it also talks about military access and training. Check the description.

[bebop54]

on the projectcamelot site there is an update & evaluation concerning LZ's case ...

included is a link to the last interview LZ gave to a friend ...

it is pretty clear that he is insane ...

after all he will not be stormin' the whitehouse to confront 'shrub' with mossad helpin' him..

also , barbato & santamburlo ARE the real thing

so was rivera ...& here is the 'prince' ( who is taking over for gelli ) dis-crediting them ...interesting ....

rivera was murdered ...the other 2 have disappeared .

[bellyoffire]

An update? Where? I didn't see one? The only update I saw was the one from the other video that I posted where they can no longer support him because of his crazy statements. Is that what you are talking about?

[bebop54]

there is a newer update on the site ....i noticed it the other day when i was looking for something else ...

i guess camelot felt compelled to give an assesment on their opinion regarding several people they had interveiwed ..

in that section is the most recent opinion ...

at the bottom of the page is a link to an mp3 interview ....

it's the interview where he is especially bi-polar ...even slips into another accent ...

but you may have heard it ....

[bebop54]

i'm gonna check camelot for a sec' so i can explain better ...be right back ....

by the way barbato & santamburlo are VERY serious brave researchers and as you can see here LZ discredits them ..

LZ also discredited rivera ....

[joopq]

i am not against the idea that lz could be fake. however this is clearly a smear capmagin. and anyone who has paid this lz matter any attention and is an objective thinker can see that. only biased people will agree with this (or slow minded people).

[bebop54]

take a stand ! ...lmao

you can't research him forever !

too much important shit goin' on' !.....

[joopq]

on my search to see if lz is fake or real you are adding to the side that he is real belly. and i know you dont like that (another mistake to NOT like info)this vid makes it look like you WANT one side to be true, instead of gathering info and making a judgemnt based on that. that is NOT objective reasoning.

[bellyoffire]

You swore by this interview, and I saw him telling on himself. Even Camelot who believed deeply in Leo has disassociated themselves from him. To bad you are blinded from seeing the truth.

[joopq]

i didnt swear on anything. another heavy handed claim with no proof, you make too much of a habit of this practice to call yourself on the side of "truth" belly. an honest man is ALLWAYS honest. who cares what camelot thinks, they are two people, who are only researchers like you and me (well maybe like me lol). im blinded, ok you didnt even ask why i have my opinion or what i base it on, yet you can call me blinded, this is NOT the scientific method. its an insult that you have no way of knowin

[bellyoffire]

By the way, I don't care if you think he is fake or real. it doesn't bother/move me at all. You want to believe he is real, then go for it. It doesn't hurt my feelings. This is based on scientific reasoning.

[joopq]

i am not in the business of believeing or disbelieving things like you elly. i look at the evidence and make an opinion on that, this is the scientific method, ok? you on the other hand are running a smear campaign with nothing really to "expose" your looking for contradictions, fine. good to do, BUT the points you bring up are not signifigant. what high office did he visit in march-april? have you heard the 6 newest interviews? do you actually know what your talkin about? can you answer? if not

[bellyoffire]

I don't care what office he visits. There is no proof he is visiting anything. Oh, cause he has a picture? Thats not evidence of anything. I don't know what 6 interviews you are referring to. I don't have time to listen to his BS, and him dominate conversations, avoid questions, and show any real proof.

[joopq]

you said in this very visit (to make a point) that lz was in an office so high up. now you admit you dont know that! see? smear bulsshit propaganda. if he happens to be fake or real you wouldnt know but yet and still you try to weigh in on this. dont DARE call yourself on the peoples side when you spread lies yourself!

[bellyoffire]

joopq, you got some issues. You asked me what office he visited. I don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about and you think you caught me lying? Please.

[joopq]

in this vid you "expose" his for saying he cnat visit such a high up office since e defecxted. you say he HAS in march-april 2008. now you are puzzled by your own claims? and please respnd to my analysis of this vids main points. i could go into greater depth if it wasnt in a damn youtube box

[bebop54]

all ya' gotta ask leo the lyin' swami is to show his PASSPORT ...lol

simple ...

can't play that .....he ain't gonna show that though ..

[bebop54]

i came to help belly ' ...hahhaaaa

my friend joo' is an unrelenting tough investigator....

[joopq]

belly needs help. he says in his vid that leo contradicts himself by saying that he cant go up into a high office when in fact he HAS been going up in them march-april 2008. i asked what office is this the vid is refering to, and my answer was NOTHING he made this claim and CAN NOT show that he knows what hes talkin about. supporting anyone who says they KNOW something and then they admit they do NOT know it actually is chasing a bubble over a snare of death. belly wake up my friend. truth

[bebop54]

heeeeeheeeheeee belly' is cool man ! ..

..you know you love debatin' him ......lol

[joopq]

actually im not sure about that yet. he makes me feel like a bully demanding answers, like im interrogating him. he cant just give an answer. all his answers are like, "aw man, you cant see it? fine go ahead and follow your boyfriend leo" im just asking for your reasons and info belly! im not gonna believe leo OR you blindly so cough it up if your gonna make a claim. i dont make claims unless i have info, and people are welcome to analyze my info.

[bebop54]

you ARE a bully !!!!....lmao

i'm sure we are all here because we enjoy the debate ....

belly is funny too !..

he called 'leo the lyin' your BOYFRIEND ????!!

AHAHAAAHAAA ...so funny !

that made me laugh! .....

you got belly's canastas in an uproar ...lol

[bellyoffire]

joopq. Your questions are so vague and I said I didn't know what you were talking about. You ask a random question and who knows where it came from. You didn't prove nothing.

[joopq]

vague? i clarified it for you allready as clear as it needs to be. IN THIS VIDEO YOU SAY HE IS LYING ABOUT when he said hesint able to go into any high offices anymore. you said he is lying cuz he has been going in them march-april 2008. so then i asked you, "what offices did he go into then that hes lying about?" you havent given me an answer. do you have one?

[bebop54]

joo' ..you keep askin' for 'proof' but have none yourself ..

all your info' is second hand baloney or LZ'S lyin' ...

when a linguist tells you he has a phony accent , you refuse to believe ..

you refuse to even analyze all the proof which was sent to you ..

did you LISTEN to the mp3 on projectcamelot ? ...you don't even consider his wife ...

c'mon !!!!!

you can't keep insulting people because they don't believe leo when you don't even back him yourself !!!

take a stand either way ...

[joopq]

i ask for proof when people make claims, whats wrong with that? nothing its called prudence. i dont make claims so what proof do i need to provide? the mp3 on cams site? where he makes threats to norways pres? yea what about it? hw does that suggest he is a hoax? cuz he makes threats to presidents? take a stand without enough info? that is a fools stand and if you wish to do that to each his own. i however am basing my opinions on things that have backing.

[bebop54]

if anyone listens to the mp3 on the projectcamelot site , it is an undeniable fact that the man is insane !

[joopq]

belly you should be ashamed for pretending to know things you DO NOT. this video is weak again. no offense but i see this as a very weak case to make such heavy handed claims. you could be a dis info agent as far as i know. if the arguments to discredit lz are this weak and heavy handed then it is suspicious, and only lends him credibilty. im sorry but your questions are completely ridiculous and supposed to WOW us like "oh, i nver thought of that" i didnt think of it cuz it doesnt mean anything

[bellyoffire]

Its not my fault you are to blind to see the obvious. Does this lend him credibility? Hell no. There is no need for shame here. He admitted, he is a trained infiltrator. Illuminati uses trained infiltrators to infiltrate. If you cant get it, then you are blinded by belief in him.

[AnonymousCommentator]

AGAIN! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[bellyoffire]

Thank you bebop.

[bebop54]

i thought the sub-titles were a great idea !!!

great vid' .....

if more people actually understood what he was sayin' , there would be no doubt ..

his accent is phony by the way .....

[Ve3tah417]

FAIL

[bebop54]

projetcamelot has dis -associated themselves from zagami .....

he has been exposed as a fraud....

[joopq]

project dis-associated themselves from him and that exposes him as a fraud? we'll see if the info you were talkin about exposes him bebop. i havent looked into it yet cuz my computer was fucked up. this video is mostly heavy handed claims with poor support for them. basically it appears to be a smear video. you support smears? thats not on the path of truth my friend. even if your info really does exposes lz as a fraud you still shouldnt support bullshit cuz it agrees with you...

[bellyoffire]

Lets see your videos that prove he is real. He always says, look on the internet its there. Guess what, if everything he talks about is on the internet, then that is where he got it from.

[joopq]

i never said he is real or fake belly, you childish man. see that whats resaerch is to you. oppoing views can help eachother find reality better then ones that agree. but you are on some bullshit. im gonna break down this vids argument and show you how its bullshit, then i might ask you to clear up some things. DONT PUT FUCKIN WORDS IN MY MOUTH. i never claimed he was real or fake dammit! dont overstep your boundries of knowlegde with me too! get it together you fanatic lol. ok im calm now lol

[bebop54]

lol