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  • Down the vicodins and shove the tampons in your arse.

  • I suggest moving the medic kit onto (if you have a military harness or anything that has pouches on your shoulders, hips or stomach, or chest) your chest, stomach, shoulders or if you have cargo pockets, into them. on the area it's located put a red cross (I just use red duct tape), it helps people find it easier, and incase you ever are separated from your back pack, you have almost a mini survival kit in there (if you add needles, make sure to add a lighter, helps clean them if you reuse them)

  • Just a suggestion. Make sure you keep your prescription medicines in your pill bottles. If police arrest or hassle you, get in your BOB, they will bring charges up on medicines not in there proper containers. Good video 5/5.

  • hey brother . i noticed your only using 1 arm. so check this out on youtube.

    blue force gear trauma pouch.

    you will like.

    p.s.

    eye patch and eye wash. from experiance

  • thx..that looks like a usful kit

  • Captain and frodo said most of it, but I want to underline the need of good bag, pouch or case, where everything is easily accesible and have it's own place and you know where to get it instantly. In my medical training we had to be ready to find any asked item our eyes closed. That way you can find the item you need in the night in total darkness. That can happen easily in the rainy day when all flashlights are needed to see how to care patients and not to search items in unorganized bag.

  • (Cont.) And in case something happens to you, you don't want your partner have to wonder what you have in that mysterious plastic bag. If you are not sure what there is and it takes several minutes to find something in there, think how long it takes by someone who has to check everything there to choose the best option. Are you ready to wait that time when you are in pain?

  • well that was very infomative i wish the internet would be up if the baloon goes up. know what ah meen vern?

  • three-- When it comes to medication, perscription strength motrin which people end up taking for every backache muscle strain in the Army is 800mg. Over the counter dosw is 250mg.

    Depending on how passionate you are at learning regarding procedures and medications will dictate what you carry.

    Sutures are easy to learn, in fact there are videos on youtube teaching them. The 1st time I was taught sutures I was on a field exercise in the desert an my Physician Assitant who was former SF

  • Three (cont) came up to me and whipped out a pigs foot from his pocket and we sat down on the ground and I went to work with the different types. Pigs are thought to have a similar "feel" to that of humans when it comes to suturing.

    My concern about sutures in the field is that you can close the wound and create a great environment for infection. You want to be as sterile as possible, thats also where having some antibiotics in your kit can help.

  • Tree pt3- The pharmacopiea book will tell you all about any medication you would want to carry, and I would suggest that when you see a doctor to get a prescription for something ask them about the med in depth they can give you insight as when to use it and when not to.

    Also on meds, if you keep them in the bottles or in pill bags you can get the same little silica doodads that take all the moisture out of the container/bag.

  • Three pt4 - The one thing frodo and I agree on is that you should not pack ANYTHING that you dont know how to use, because using things incorrectly is a liability for you and or the person you treat. KNOW YOUR EQUIPMENT/MEDS.

    Im a big fan of you learning new procedures and meds, I think everyone should know these things.

  • I read once that both Russian and German soldiers in WWII would put mouldy bread on deep wounds to prevent infection. Is this a way to make homemade antibiotics? Anybody know?

  • i would imagine that would be a good way of getting penacilen. it would have to be moldy first i think

  • Everyone needs to think about what type of medical emergency situation they might face in an environment they are in. Your medical kit should adapt to your environment.

    Some of the things in the video are of value. Dermabond is brand name medical super glue, actual tampons can be used to plug a gunshot wound.

    Tourniquets, quik clot, hemcon bandages, Israeli dressings are better things to have in an emergency.

  • Medical tape doesnt hold up well, you might want to have some duck tape handy, or a self adhesive wrap called coban.

    Regarding bandaids, They dont stay on well, so I use 2x2 gauze and the coban or 3 inch medical tape for the small stuff.

    The cotton balls are a waste use sterile 2x2 or 4x4 gauze and a gauze wrap called kerlex. If you have a large wound the entire roll of kerlex can be packed into the wound to help control bleeding.

  • For imobilizing limbs something called a sam splint and some ace bandages work very well.

    Focus on keeping your actual emergency medical gear together and avoid packing non-essential crap in there with it.

    Having unneeded junk cluttering your medical kit will slow you down in treating a patient in a medical emergency.

    Aso keep in mind if you dont really need it, then it is just extra weight to carry.

  • Lastly if anyone is really serious about being able to handle a medical emergency, go down to your local community college and take a medical 1st responder course.

  • thanx for the tips. i'm gonna get a newer one put together today, i think i have something that'll work perfect. it is kinda hendersome due to having it all packed in there.

  • do you recammend antthing else..i'm thinkin of upgrading it & using a thicker plastic school pencil zip pouch..maybe even an actual Molle poich to attatch to the outside for more room inside the main pouch of my pack

  • Hi Three-- Depending on the amount of space you have you might consider a pelican brand hard case.

    When just packing things like burn dressings in a plastic bag I have burst the package open in my aid bag. I now carry all my meds and other delicate items in these small hard cases. Thay have a good selection of sizes and are not very expensive.

  • three- I would have my aid kit in a place where it is very accesible. In your scenario your 1st aid kit is for hiking etc. having it in a molle pouch outside your main pack is a good idea you wont have to dig for it, but it also increases the need for a crush proof container.

    As a medic I am loaded up with a 60lb aid bag, but if I get seperated from my bag I still have a personal 1st aid kit on my person with a dummy cord attached to a small medical roll. It is called the IKAK.

  • thee-- I meant to say IFAK.

    Consider things like kerlex, cravats which is a large bandana with safety pins but comes ina a very small package, SAM splints which can be used for splinting any limb as it can be molded to fit.

    Since you are considering this kit for outdoors are you or anyone coming with you allergic to insects? do you need to consider carrying 1-2 epi pins to counter anaphalactic shock?

  • three-- If you have an open wound and are a day or 2 from civilization, should you consider getting a small perscription of antibiotics from your doctor? (levaquin 500 mg)

    There are some great books out there that I will suggest for your reading.

    I am short on time so I will send you the titles later.

  • Lose the Vicodin, you don't know dosage or when to use. Lose the loose pills, moisture will ruin them. Lose the Commit it can cause increases in blood pressure & heart rate.

    Things to buy: 3 inch gause roller, triangular bandage,burn cream, SISSORS,TWEEZERS,surgical tape(Never use duct-tape over dressings or gauze rollers, it prevents the wound to 'breathe' properly), more antibiotic and sting-relief pads, sterile, unwrapped dressings, yours are dirty.

  • Pack a 1st booklet too.

    Don't buy sutures and thread, you don't know how. I suggest you go to a drug store and just buy a Johnson and Johnson first aid kit, or ATLEAST check out the contents of several different ones to see what you really need.

    Never pack medication unless if is only for yourself.

    Take a course. All the gear in the world is useless if you don't know what to do with it.

    Previous USN Nurse and current Nursing Educator

    Gambatte!

    Fv

  • thanks for thtips...i think my kit it pretty good, but can be upgraded a bit. yes i have takin 2 courses in first aid & recieved my cpr & first aid certification when i had a

    lifegaurd class. it wasn't for me though. but i should take a refresher course since its ben 6 yrs

  • threfloors-- I CANNOT believe its been a month since I 1st posted. Im sorry its taken me so long to get back with the titles of these books for you, I have been busy with work.

    Where There is no Doctor, Where There is no Dentist, Ditch Medicine. You can also pick up a book called pharmacopeia which will give you some insight to different drugs.

  • Frod--Duct tape/100 mph hour tape works just fine where other tapes will fail.

    The title of the video is survivalist medical kit, that brings to mind that you need something that will work in the chips are down, and regular medical tape just doesnt work out in the field.

    Duct tape/100 mph tape can be wound length wise around a tongue depressor etc, and it can be used effectively for more than just 1st aid.

  • If it's a survival item that's one thing. But the adhesive is too strong for medical tape. Polyken 231 military issue tears wounds back open, I've seen it happen a dozen times.

  • frod-- You bring up a valid concern I have not had that experience myself, and the people who made that suggestion are 18-Delta Special Forces Medics who I hold in the highest regard.

    I think the contrast in your approach to 1st aid and mine is that you are/were in a clinical setting, and I am in a field setting.

    When I went through my Medic training at Fort Sam the SF Physician Assistant Captain who was also an 18 Delta was at odds with the hospital over the use of tourniqets as being

  • Frod (cont) the 1st best choice in stopping bleeding from an extremity.

    He advocated temporary tournitquets, which drove the doctors at the hospital nuts, but through his efforts and his world experience (30 years active duty) he had that philosophy implemented into the Combat Medic course and it is now 4 years later the Army standard, and since they are now combining Medic training for the Air Force and Navy and going through Army Medic training I would imagine its the military standard.

  • thanks for the tips

  • your tips are much apprieciated. i know i need sterile wraps! i'll work on those & the rest.

  • Pretty cool, However those aren't tampons. They are maxi pads. :-)

  • preety good kit ya got there i have some adds and delites but still good info

  • nice info. hope a druggie doesnt get ahold of that lol

  • interesting toolkit ya got there.

  • Excellent vids, quality is a little low, but great info. I carry almost the exact same items, but carry them in the Maxpedition FR-1 pouch. I will have a video for it up in the next few weeks. Good job.

  • thanks

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